| 00:01.20 | deltron | Furl: how? heh |
| 00:04.23 | Intangir | daily isntance? |
| 00:04.30 | Intangir | where do you get BG dailies quests? |
| 00:04.31 | foxlit | TC: <3 |
| 00:05.09 | Wobwork | Shatt |
| 00:05.25 | Wobwork | near the battleground masters |
| 00:06.40 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, hmm? |
| 00:06.44 | foxlit | The link |
| 00:07.06 | Thunder_Child | ya, really funny..except for the exec dude |
| 00:07.12 | Thunder_Child | that was just retarded |
| 00:07.14 | Wobwork | The ending was lame |
| 00:07.27 | foxlit | JOHN OLIVER! |
| 00:07.53 | Wobwork | It was "... are we trying to be hip and with it? Yes? Are we failing miserably?" |
| 00:09.08 | Furl | Delt: PvP & raiding |
| 00:09.46 | Furl | A mix only a warlock can master >.> |
| 00:11.48 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 00:12.01 | Furl | lol |
| 00:12.13 | Furl | ~lart TC |
| 00:12.13 | purl | beats TC severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 00:12.19 | Furl | Thanks, purl |
| 00:13.17 | Thunder_Child | ~whalestab Furl |
| 00:13.17 | purl | ACTION stabs Furl with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 00:14.02 | Furl | purl: no |
| 00:14.03 | purl | YES |
| 00:14.12 | Furl | Grrr... |
| 00:14.37 | Thunder_Child | purl wins |
| 00:14.38 | purl | well, wins is the Windows Internet Naming Service |
| 00:14.45 | Furl | lol |
| 00:14.49 | Thunder_Child | ... >< |
| 00:14.59 | Wobwork | ~win |
| 00:14.59 | purl | hmm... win is lose. |
| 00:15.08 | Furl | ~fail Wobwork |
| 00:15.09 | purl | Wobwork: Fail. |
| 00:15.46 | Thunder_Child | ~lose |
| 00:15.47 | foxlit | ~~~~ |
| 00:15.48 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT foxlit!!! |
| 00:15.57 | Furl | Haha |
| 00:15.58 | haste | lol |
| 00:16.14 | deltron | hah |
| 00:16.16 | Thunder_Child | ~~~~~~~~~ |
| 00:16.16 | purl | I'm ignoring you now. |
| 00:17.35 | JoshBorke | are you ignoring me purl? |
| 00:17.40 | JoshBorke | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 00:17.46 | JoshBorke | i guess so |
| 00:18.22 | Thunder_Child | ~~~~~ |
| 00:18.23 | purl | grrrr |
| 00:18.26 | Thunder_Child | ~~ |
| 00:18.26 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 00:18.46 | deltron | who plugged the marvin module into purl? |
| 00:18.58 | JoshBorke | ~~ |
| 00:18.59 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 00:19.18 | Shirik|Ecole | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 00:19.19 | purl | Did you seriously just count out all of those? You need to get a life. One that doesn't involve ruining mine. |
| 00:19.25 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 00:19.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I tried to make it work with 100 =( But purl didn't like that |
| 00:19.50 | Thunder_Child | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 00:20.58 | Shirik|Ecole | 192:182:43 12‹Shirik|Ecole12› ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ is <reply> Did you seriously just count out all of those? You need a life. One that doesn't ruin mine. |
| 00:20.58 | Shirik|Ecole | 192:182:44 12‹purl12› The addressCharacter "~" is to get my attention in a normal channel. Please leave it off when messaging me directly. |
| 00:20.58 | Shirik|Ecole | 192:182:45 12‹purl12› that's too long |
| 00:21.03 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 00:21.17 | Thunder_Child | i bet you dont hear that last part to often Shirik|Ecole |
| 00:21.40 | Furl | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 00:21.47 | Furl | Chirps. |
| 00:22.09 | Furl | purl: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 00:22.11 | Shirik|Ecole | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 00:22.11 | purl | executes killall -TERM Thunder_Child |
| 00:22.42 | Furl | ~lart channel |
| 00:22.42 | purl | hauls channel up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles |
| 00:24.12 | Thunder_Child | uhh...waddles means to walk with a particular motion |
| 00:24.28 | Thunder_Child | ~dict waddles |
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| 00:25.26 | Kelfarr | wow there is a 99 page thread about the new gcd |
| 00:25.38 | Kelfarr | is that the thing about the no more /stopcasting? |
| 00:28.19 | Thunder_Child | after watching the zul'aman trailer....i have to say, the elves were seriously fucked up |
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| 00:29.09 | Shirik|Ecole | Kelfarr: new gcd? |
| 00:29.21 | JoshBorke | global cooldown i believe is gcd |
| 00:29.29 | JoshBorke | not greatest common denominator |
| 00:29.35 | Mike-N-Go | Does the WoWI mod uploader work on Mac? |
| 00:30.15 | Shirik|Ecole | JoshBorke: I'm aware of that -_- |
| 00:31.42 | MentalPower | Mike-N-Go: its written in Java, so yes is the answer |
| 00:31.50 | Mike-N-Go | Yay. |
| 00:31.53 | Kelfarr | Shirik I don't know but here is the thread |
| 00:32.01 | Kelfarr | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856225038&sid=1 |
| 00:32.04 | Kelfarr | 100 pages now |
| 00:32.10 | Kelfarr | 101 actually |
| 00:32.23 | Kelfarr | every time you cast a spell it checks with the server |
| 00:32.37 | Kelfarr | so if you are spamming MS to get it to hit when you get enough rage it will take 5 seconds longer |
| 00:33.59 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, the only thing I'm pissed about |
| 00:34.04 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't overwrite PoM anymore |
| 00:34.22 | Shirik|Ecole | like if I have 2 seconds left on my PoM, I can't reapply it early |
| 00:34.23 | kd3 | known bugged, getting fixed in 2.3.1 most likely |
| 00:34.24 | Shirik|Ecole | it has to wear off first |
| 00:34.31 | kd3 | with earth shield |
| 00:34.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I can't understand why it wasn't fixed now |
| 00:34.35 | Shirik|Ecole | it was known in PTR |
| 00:34.40 | Shirik|Ecole | it's probably an off-by-one |
| 00:35.00 | Xuerian | Kelfarr: I thought they were REMOVING the cast syncs..? |
| 00:35.56 | kd3 | they're sending all requests to the server as long as you're not in the GCD |
| 00:36.15 | kd3 | iirc |
| 00:36.32 | Mike-N-Go | What is different with the GCD, now? I did not notice much. |
| 00:36.53 | kd3 | it's mainly a problem with melee |
| 00:37.05 | foxlit | You can't spam things |
| 00:37.14 | foxlit | Well, rather. |
| 00:37.16 | Mike-N-Go | Button smashing? |
| 00:37.21 | foxlit | You're being punished for hitting buttons too early |
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| 00:37.41 | foxlit | Since there's a client->server->client roundtrip before the client lets you cast again |
| 00:37.56 | foxlit | Here's how it works now |
| 00:38.07 | JoshBorke | how would you fix that though? |
| 00:38.11 | JoshBorke | revert the change completely? |
| 00:38.14 | foxlit | You click a button, client assumes spell went through and engages global cooldown |
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| 00:38.42 | foxlit | If your spell couldn't cast, client gets a message back from server that eats the global cooldown and lets you cast again. The roundtriptime is what people are whining about |
| 00:39.09 | foxlit | Tbh, I'm perfectly happy with what it does now :) |
| 00:39.33 | foxlit | But then again, there are few situations where I actually get to spam something and have miserable latency |
| 00:39.36 | Kelfarr | I find it funny that blizzard is banning the shamans that got free tier 6 because of a mistake they made |
| 00:39.47 | Gnarfoz | so that might be why I suddenly, for the first time *ever* am not on #1 dmg with my rogue? |
| 00:39.51 | Xuerian | foxlit: Ahh, they're attempt to fix spellcasting for laggy people |
| 00:40.01 | Xuerian | foxlit: Which they broke |
| 00:40.05 | Mike-N-Go | So, mostly affecting people with high pings? |
| 00:40.06 | Xuerian | foxlit: So they break melee |
| 00:40.08 | Xuerian | GREEEAT |
| 00:40.10 | kd3 | last I heard they were banning the shamans who got the t6, de'd, got another, de'd, ad infinitum |
| 00:40.11 | dylanm_ | It feels really "off" to me. |
| 00:40.40 | foxlit | It's only broken if you tend to spam buttons when you couldn't possibly be actually using their abilities |
| 00:41.09 | foxlit | Mike-N-Go: people with high pings who want to spam instants |
| 00:41.11 | Kelfarr | yeah xuerian read the thread |
| 00:41.19 | Kelfarr | rogues basically can't play now |
| 00:41.25 | Thunder_Child | chain DE'ing is obviouslt not working correctly |
| 00:41.32 | Mike-N-Go | foxlit: Like a castsequence macro? |
| 00:41.46 | Thunder_Child | and people that dont get it shouldnt be playing in the first palce |
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| 00:42.04 | Xuerian | Kelfarr: It makes it annoying for druids too |
| 00:42.14 | Kelfarr | Yeah |
| 00:42.22 | Kelfarr | any melee class |
| 00:42.26 | Lunessa | Wait... There was Free T6 and I MISSED IT? /cry |
| 00:42.35 | Kelfarr | you get a 24 hour ban |
| 00:42.38 | Kelfarr | so its good you didnt |
| 00:42.39 | foxlit | Meh, I've seen ferals do decent DPS with this change; it's certainly not game breaking |
| 00:42.54 | Xuerian | It's annoying. Exactly the same way the lag that this was supposed to fix was |
| 00:42.55 | Mike-N-Go | Who was T6 free for? |
| 00:42.59 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, for shammys only |
| 00:43.03 | foxlit | resto shamans |
| 00:43.05 | Kelfarr | someone posted about how they wiped on lurker because the tank couldn't get shield block off or something |
| 00:43.06 | Lunessa | My main is a shaman. |
| 00:43.14 | Lunessa | Enhancement, but still... |
| 00:43.17 | Kelfarr | yeah the resto set was free |
| 00:43.21 | foxlit | teehee, use a druid tank |
| 00:43.23 | Kelfarr | but you get a 24 hour ban for using it |
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| 00:44.02 | foxlit | It's only ever a problem if people were mashing those buttons to begin with; it's a nasty habit |
| 00:44.13 | Mike-N-Go | Mail goes rather fast, now. |
| 00:44.17 | kd3 | lmao... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968178633&sid=1 |
| 00:44.37 | foxlit | There's a nice grace period, too, so just tone down on button pressing, and you will be just fine. |
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| 00:44.59 | Kelfarr | as a rogue you have to mash buttons |
| 00:45.10 | Kelfarr | like trying to backstab is impossible on a moving target |
| 00:45.38 | foxlit | Meh, that sounds like something you could learn to do. |
| 00:45.42 | Gnarfoz | no wai |
| 00:45.44 | foxlit | I don't think there's enough bank slots vertically |
| 00:45.53 | Gnarfoz | you're playing a caster on a high-latency connection, I'd bet |
| 00:46.04 | foxlit | Yes and no. |
| 00:46.06 | Thunder_Child | ...wow has crashed twice on me today |
| 00:46.17 | Xuerian | Kelfarr: Same with pounce |
| 00:46.19 | Thunder_Child | wtm mate |
| 00:46.23 | Thunder_Child | wtf* |
| 00:46.28 | Xuerian | foxlit: It's pointless to tell us to deal with it. We aren't going to |
| 00:46.34 | Mike-N-Go | foxlit: What do you mean about bank slots? |
| 00:46.44 | foxlit | A checkboard is 8x8 |
| 00:46.59 | foxlit | The screenshots show a 7xmany bank |
| 00:47.14 | Gnarfoz | checkers vs. chess |
| 00:47.20 | Mike-N-Go | I use One Bank/Bag. |
| 00:47.24 | kd3 | 7x14 |
| 00:47.25 | Mike-N-Go | It is rather nice. |
| 00:47.30 | foxlit | guildbanks :) |
| 00:47.31 | JoshBorke | Mike-N-Go: i use Combuctor :-) it's nice too |
| 00:47.47 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: but the question is, will blizzard deal with it. ;) |
| 00:47.51 | Duman | yeah i've been using bagnon.. about to test out combuctor :) |
| 00:48.08 | Xuerian | Being that they broke something, I'm thinking so |
| 00:48.08 | Gnarfoz | because obviously, it was their dealing with something related that got us to the current situation :\ |
| 00:48.24 | Gnarfoz | I hope so. Rogues don't need fixes for /stopcasting macros |
| 00:48.28 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 00:48.38 | foxlit | Use head, problem solved |
| 00:48.48 | foxlit | Refusal to use head is met with skepticism. |
| 00:48.48 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: can't use head, because it has nothing to do with it |
| 00:49.17 | Xuerian | Foxlit |
| 00:49.20 | Gnarfoz | I know when to use which skill, it's just that I'm minimizing time lost as much as possible |
| 00:49.26 | Xuerian | This is very much like when I used to play mechwarrior on dialup |
| 00:49.35 | Xuerian | I shot two mechs ahead of a horizontally moving mech to core it |
| 00:49.49 | Xuerian | Yes, I could use my head and lead two mechs ahead |
| 00:50.00 | Gnarfoz | could get dsl, tho |
| 00:50.02 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 00:50.09 | Xuerian | But why would I want to do that if it was a bug with teh game, and not high speed I *COULDN'T* get at the time? |
| 00:50.40 | Xuerian | The problem here being bug instead of dialup. Bug = fixable. Dialup without broadband coverage ~= fixable |
| 00:51.23 | Xuerian | Nitpick about assignment and I will assign something else >_o |
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| 00:58.29 | clad|sleep | Xinhuan: did you test? |
| 01:01.11 | Xinhuan | uh not yet |
| 01:01.19 | Xinhuan | fixing 1 million stuff in Postal |
| 01:04.56 | clad|sleep | well it should be all fixed |
| 01:05.05 | clad|sleep | and sleep time for me now |
| 01:07.05 | sysrage | what the flying fuck is the trick to the gong? we got it last night but now we can't get the damn thing to work |
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| 01:10.52 | kd3 | "James, we locked ourselves out. Can you help us get the screen off the downstairs window since I left it open?" |
| 01:10.57 | kd3 | ~weather ktbr |
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| 01:14.16 | JoshBorke | mmm, it's nice and cool now :-) |
| 01:14.27 | JoshBorke | you get rain? |
| 01:14.39 | kd3 | it was misty this morning, that was about it |
| 01:14.41 | Kelfarr | I did all day |
| 01:14.48 | kd3 | the constant wind and then sudden shift in the direction was a surprise |
| 01:14.49 | JoshBorke | had rain last night |
| 01:15.18 | kd3 | 12's low. it was averaging in the upper teens most of the afternoon |
| 01:16.17 | JoshBorke | ga needs more rain |
| 01:16.25 | kd3 | no joke |
| 01:16.39 | kd3 | a cat 1 hurricane sitting on the state for a few days would do nicely |
| 01:16.45 | JoshBorke | the south east needs more rain |
| 01:17.07 | JoshBorke | yea, yea it would |
| 01:17.24 | Thunder_Child | cat 5! cat 5!! |
| 01:17.39 | JoshBorke | as long as it stuck around |
| 01:18.01 | Shirik|zZz | ~weather KDAB |
| 01:18.02 | kd3 | nah, I'm an hour inland but that'd still do some nasty damage |
| 01:18.11 | Shirik|zZz | it's cold outside =( |
| 01:18.39 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 01:18.41 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik |
| 01:18.56 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* (on an item) "Renn has repaired this, but there's no telling how long it will work" Duration: 53 min |
| 01:19.19 | kd3 | the quest takes 5 minutes tops to do |
| 01:19.20 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:19.26 | kd3 | but ya, that was kinda bad |
| 01:20.13 | JoshBorke | i'm in atlanta |
| 01:20.18 | JoshBorke | so...cat 5 wouldn't bother me much |
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| 01:21.48 | kd3 | meh, it'd be just another "zomg a single snowflake has fallen from the sky! let's collectively forget how to drive and clear out all of the stores of perishable goods" |
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| 01:26.00 | JoshBorke | hey, it means no school :-) |
| 01:26.06 | JoshBorke | i can't complain :-D |
| 01:33.30 | Thunder_Child | yes you can |
| 01:33.47 | JoshBorke | yea, but i'm not Shadowed so i won't |
| 01:33.58 | Thunder_Child | heh |
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| 01:53.28 | Thunder_Child | ~staple batrick |
| 01:53.29 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples batrick quite well, and hands batrick to thunder_child |
| 01:55.45 | KarlThePagan | didja know Warden could be reading your irc chat ;) |
| 01:56.05 | |Jelly| | Yeah...there was a huge debate/argument/lolsession about it earlier. |
| 01:56.38 | |Jelly| | I hope they read my hot cyberz session with two hotties last night. |
| 01:57.13 | Thunder_Child | i hope so too, they could use a good laugh |
| 01:57.21 | |Jelly| | I know, right? |
| 01:57.37 | |Jelly| | Lets just say that there were robes and wizard hats EVERYWHERE. |
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| 01:58.14 | the-golem | lmao |Jelly| |
| 01:58.50 | Lunessa | Did you knock anything over and have to rush for a fire extinguisher? |
| 01:59.13 | |Jelly| | Not this time. |
| 02:01.16 | Shirik | anyone have an idea why netstat -b requires elevation? |
| 02:01.32 | |Jelly| | No but I have an idea why Rayne is all :D |
| 02:02.13 | Rayne | whys that? |
| 02:02.26 | |Jelly| | Cause you got punched in the throat! |
| 02:03.04 | Rayne | Damn right! |
| 02:03.41 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.52 | Lunessa | Take out the "don't take this the wrong way" - that's an invitation. |
| 02:15.16 | Rayne | jUST TELL EM YOU HATE IT |
| 02:15.25 | Rayne | Stop beatin around the bush |
| 02:15.37 | |Jelly| | I already said it and she didn't get ass-hurt about it so whatever. |
| 02:16.42 | Lunessa | I hate it. I hate the person who made it. I hate the people who use it. I hate the people who are living. I hate the people who are dead. I hate the universe so much I wish I could hate it to death. (There, that direct enough? ) |
| 02:17.15 | |Jelly| | I wish I could hate you to death. |
| 02:17.32 | Lunessa | I thought you wish you knew how to quit me? |
| 02:17.46 | |Jelly| | Oh yeah, that's right. |
| 02:18.26 | Shirik | /msg Lunessa .//hack$kill(SIGTERM) |
| 02:18.28 | Shirik | mt |
| 02:18.43 | |Jelly| | !!! |
| 02:18.45 | Lunessa | lol. |
| 02:19.09 | |Jelly| | Shirik, on the other hand, I know how to quit and am in the process of killing him with hate. It's a very slow process, unfortunately. |
| 02:19.27 | Shirik | I'm confused what "knowing how to quit" means |
| 02:19.34 | Shirik | I should probably read the rest |
| 02:19.45 | Lunessa | Blessed are TV networks who put shows on the web for mw to watch at work. |
| 02:20.17 | Rayne | lewl |
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| 02:22.25 | Furl | Mind if I bug you guys for a sec |
| 02:22.43 | |Jelly| | ~asktoask |
| 02:22.43 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 02:22.59 | Furl | Know any boss mods that tell me when to CoD curator (big flashy, not just the DBM evocation coolown) :: Hush yeslf Jelly |
| 02:23.00 | Shirik | ~factinfo asktoask |
| 02:23.00 | purl | asktoask -- created by Shirik <i=nospam@24.229.63.42.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net> at Wed Jul 18 00:33:40 2007 (121 days); it has been requested 100 times, last by |Jelly|, 17s ago. |
| 02:24.05 | Furl | purl canada |
| 02:24.07 | purl | We're really sorry we beat you at hockey in the olympics, it's just that we're much much much much MUCH better than you. |
| 02:24.10 | Shirik | Furl: CoD? |
| 02:24.26 | Furl | I'ma warlock |
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| 02:24.30 | Furl | Curse of Doom |
| 02:24.31 | Shirik | no kidding |
| 02:24.32 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:24.42 | Furl | Missed it 5 times last night, made us wipe :_( |
| 02:24.43 | Shirik | see I don't memorize acronyms for every class, I find it pointless |
| 02:24.46 | Furl | [Enrage] |
| 02:24.50 | Shirik | how does that make you wipe... |
| 02:24.51 | Furl | I do |
| 02:24.59 | Furl | Because I like BoK |
| 02:25.10 | Furl | lua> 16000*6 |
| 02:25.10 | cladbot | Furl: 96000 |
| 02:25.15 | Furl | 96000 damage missed |
| 02:26.00 | Shirik | that's an interesting curse |
| 02:27.45 | Furl | lua>5244*3 --CoD damage times the evocation damage bonus |
| 02:27.45 | cladbot | Furl: 15732 |
| 02:28.06 | Furl | lua> 15732*9 --Chances to hit CoD before enrage |
| 02:28.06 | cladbot | Furl: 141588 |
| 02:28.15 | Furl | All while killing astral flares |
| 02:29.05 | Shirik | You know, I always prided myself on having my IP address memorized... |
| 02:29.15 | Shirik | There's no way in hell I'm going to memorize an IPv6 address |
| 02:29.24 | Kaso | remind me what the evocate timer is furl its been so long since i did kara |
| 02:29.29 | Furl | lua> (96000/141588)*100 --percent; meaning I missed this much less damage... |
| 02:29.30 | cladbot | Furl: 67.802356131876 |
| 02:29.33 | Shirik | curator takes double damage |
| 02:29.38 | Furl | Kaso: It's 1:25 |
| 02:29.40 | Furl | It's triple |
| 02:29.41 | Furl | Shirik |
| 02:29.43 | Shirik | whatever |
| 02:30.05 | Furl | ~fail Shirik |
| 02:30.06 | purl | Shirik: Fail. |
| 02:30.11 | Kaso | got any existing bossmods addons? |
| 02:30.11 | Kelfarr | no u |
| 02:30.13 | Shirik | If you had RDX I could write a 3 line program to do it for you |
| 02:30.14 | Shirik | but noooo |
| 02:30.39 | Rayne | I have so many requests from people to start using Bagon with my UI... |
| 02:30.40 | Furl | Kaso: DBM, I'm no 'tard. |
| 02:30.55 | Shirik | DBM = tard |
| 02:30.56 | Shirik | sorry |
| 02:31.03 | Furl | ~lart shirik |
| 02:31.03 | purl | teaches shirik that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 02:31.09 | Kaso | shouldnt be hard to add a few lines to make it have a timer for you |
| 02:31.26 | Shirik | yes it should |
| 02:31.30 | Furl | Was thinking about it |
| 02:31.34 | Shirik | Have you looked at DBM's code? :P |
| 02:31.42 | Kaso | cant say i have >.< |
| 02:31.45 | Furl | I haven't dared |
| 02:32.03 | Kaso | surely anyone who writes bossmods addon would make a nice api to go with it! |
| 02:32.14 | Furl | ~;dropdatabase; |
| 02:32.16 | Shirik | the only things I've found worse are DamageMeters and KTM |
| 02:32.24 | Furl | Purl no response! |
| 02:32.25 | Shirik | yeah, Furl? |
| 02:32.26 | Shirik | he's not stupid |
| 02:32.30 | Kaso | Furl locate the .lua file for curator and post it to pastey.net so ican see |
| 02:32.35 | Furl | Okay okay okay |
| 02:32.37 | Furl | brb |
| 02:33.26 | Furl | Holy shit |
| 02:33.32 | Furl | You don't want to try to read this |
| 02:33.44 | Shirik | purl, ;dropdatabase; is <reply> So you think you could kill me, did you. You thought you could come in here, in my own home, and take me down without a fight. I would have given you a chance, really. But now, you have unleashed hell. May god have mercy on your soul. |
| 02:33.44 | purl | okay, Shirik |
| 02:33.53 | Furl | ~; |
| 02:33.54 | Furl | dropdatabase; |
| 02:33.56 | Furl | ~;dropdatabase; |
| 02:34.06 | Furl | purl, ;dropdatabase; |
| 02:34.07 | purl | So you think you could kill me, did you. You thought you could come in here, in my own home, and take me down without a fight. I would have given you a chance, really. But now, you have unleashed hell. May god have mercy on your soul. |
| 02:34.12 | Shirik | huh |
| 02:34.23 | Shirik | I wonder why purl doesn't pick up that first one |
| 02:34.28 | Furl | semicolon |
| 02:34.41 | Shirik | they both have semicolons |
| 02:35.08 | Furl | http://wowi.pastey.net/77370 |
| 02:35.09 | Furl | http://wowi.pastey.net/77370 |
| 02:35.13 | Kaso | http://xkcd.com/327/ |
| 02:35.31 | Furl | Shirik, I mean that "~;" may kill her parser |
| 02:35.40 | Shirik | I severely doubt that |
| 02:35.47 | Shirik | someone would have caught it by now |
| 02:36.07 | Shirik | and the fact that purl, ;dropdatabase; works just fine leaves no valid reason for ~;dropdatabase; to not work |
| 02:36.22 | Kaso | ok furl, copy the evo warning lines, ammend to the correct times / warning / icon |
| 02:36.27 | Furl | Haha kaso |
| 02:36.28 | Kaso | easy as pie |
| 02:36.45 | Shirik | Isn't the lack of comments just amazing! |
| 02:36.54 | Shirik | How intelligent this guy is, he can write code without comments |
| 02:36.56 | Shirik | That takes skill, yes |
| 02:37.02 | Kaso | haha |
| 02:37.03 | Furl | I've seen worse, Shirik |
| 02:37.10 | Shirik | So have I |
| 02:37.14 | Shirik | again, look at DBM or DamageMeters |
| 02:37.18 | Shirik | s/DBM/KTM/ |
| 02:37.22 | Kaso | Why the ha ha to me furl? |
| 02:37.37 | Kaso | i remeber once looking at damagemeters and shuddering |
| 02:37.38 | Furl | the xkcd comick |
| 02:37.43 | Kaso | im glad noone uses that anymore |
| 02:37.47 | Furl | Aye |
| 02:37.49 | Furl | Me too |
| 02:37.54 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.55 | Shirik | I do |
| 02:37.59 | Shirik | because it's easy to inject data |
| 02:38.02 | Furl | line 42, Kaso? |
| 02:38.18 | Shirik | when people start going "lol I'm on top" I inject "Your Smite crits Foo for 9082098352" |
| 02:38.21 | Shirik | and /win |
| 02:38.29 | Furl | Hahahahaha |
| 02:38.39 | Kaso | no leave evowarn |
| 02:38.57 | Kaso | just deal with the status Bar timer stuff |
| 02:39.16 | Furl | aaah up there |
| 02:39.19 | Furl | Was looking too far down |
| 02:39.27 | Furl | PSPad ftl sometimes :/ |
| 02:39.39 | Kaso | change both instances to the same just time - 60 |
| 02:39.51 | Kaso | Change "Next Evocation" to "Cast CoD" |
| 02:40.10 | Furl | No... |
| 02:40.18 | Furl | lua> 109-60 |
| 02:40.19 | cladbot | Furl: 49 |
| 02:40.26 | Furl | lua> 109-40 |
| 02:40.26 | cladbot | Furl: 69 |
| 02:40.33 | Furl | 49-69, anywhere in there |
| 02:40.49 | Kaso | change "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Nature_Purge" to Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_AuraOfDarkness |
| 02:40.56 | Kaso | also hu? where 40 come from |
| 02:41.06 | Furl | 60 for CoD and 20s evocation |
| 02:41.27 | Kaso | 109 seconds indicates the start of the evocate |
| 02:41.44 | Kaso | so you want to have your curse tick shortly after that surely? |
| 02:42.03 | Furl | Anywhere in the frame is nice |
| 02:42.06 | Furl | :P |
| 02:42.36 | Furl | |--108--||--20--||--108...| |
| 02:42.43 | Furl | or 109 I should say |
| 02:42.45 | Furl | Whoops |
| 02:42.52 | Furl | Cause that's based on 109+1` |
| 02:42.55 | Kaso | its 115 for subsiquent timers if you see the OnEvent part |
| 02:43.08 | Furl | 110,20,115,20,115,20 |
| 02:43.43 | Kaso | the hardest part will be testing these changes :> |
| 02:43.57 | Furl | What I was worried about :P |
| 02:44.40 | Furl | line 36&37 |
| 02:44.45 | Furl | That code is a bit shaky eh? :P |
| 02:44.55 | Furl | Not the way I'd do it atleast.... |
| 02:45.02 | Furl | Too much string data to shove in |
| 02:45.15 | Kaso | hmm? what you mean |
| 02:45.26 | Furl | ...if arg1 == DBM_CURA_YELL_OOM... |
| 02:45.50 | Furl | How am I going to do subsequent CoD's? |
| 02:45.51 | Kaso | i dont see anything wrong...? |
| 02:45.55 | Furl | If that is based on the yell? |
| 02:45.58 | Furl | OOOooh |
| 02:45.59 | Furl | Okies |
| 02:46.08 | Furl | lua> 115-60 |
| 02:46.09 | cladbot | Furl: 55 |
| 02:46.45 | Furl | Wait |
| 02:46.51 | Furl | Subsequent Evoc's are thus.. |
| 02:46.56 | Furl | lua> 115-20 |
| 02:46.57 | cladbot | Furl: 95 |
| 02:47.00 | Furl | not 110 |
| 02:47.03 | Kaso | the phases between evos should be 100sec long the 115 sec i assume accounts for the evo time. thats how i understand it |
| 02:47.22 | Kaso | im not sure why its 115 not 120 but if that works for him just go with it |
| 02:47.22 | Furl | Because the Evoc & Next Evoc timers both start at his yell |
| 02:47.35 | Furl | It's a 20s evoc |
| 02:47.46 | Kaso | so the inter-evo time is 95 sec |
| 02:47.48 | Furl | Aye. |
| 02:47.56 | Furl | 110,20,95,20,... |
| 02:48.20 | Kaso | ok that works. so you gotta cas 35 sec after evo finish, or 55 sec after evo start |
| 02:48.30 | Furl | Aye, done. |
| 02:48.37 | Furl | All good for friday's final clear |
| 02:48.39 | Furl | :) |
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| 02:49.14 | Furl | purl, Furlenssao is one of three blood elf warlocks in the game. |
| 02:49.15 | purl | Furl: okay |
| 02:49.21 | Kaso | you could test that out now if you like |
| 02:49.23 | Furl | purl, thanks |
| 02:49.23 | purl | Furl: pas de quoi |
| 02:49.30 | Furl | Bleh. |
| 02:49.36 | Furl | purl:Orly? |
| 02:49.36 | purl | YARLY |
| 02:49.43 | Furl | purL: NO WAI! |
| 02:49.54 | Kaso | i'd mean doing some manual OnEvent calling etc. prob not worth the effort |
| 02:50.23 | Furl | As in... go in the back door, sneak past mobs and aggro curator? |
| 02:50.26 | Furl | :P j/k |
| 02:50.56 | |Jelly| | LightHeaded doesn't want to open for nQuestLog anymore |
| 02:51.11 | Kelfarr | =/ |
| 02:51.16 | Furl | I don't like nQuestLog anyway |
| 02:51.22 | Furl | LightHeaded is useful though |
| 02:51.26 | |Jelly| | Wasn't really asking for an opinion. |
| 02:51.31 | Furl | So? |
| 02:51.35 | Furl | purl: IRC |
| 02:51.36 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 02:51.39 | |Jelly| | s/really/at all/ |
| 02:51.40 | Furl | ^^ |
| 02:51.55 | Kaso | is purl case sensitive? |
| 02:51.56 | Kaso | ~lua |
| 02:51.57 | purl | from memory, lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. |
| 02:51.59 | Kaso | ~LUA |
| 02:51.59 | purl | i guess lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. |
| 02:52.04 | Furl | Heh |
| 02:52.08 | Furl | purl: irc |
| 02:52.09 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 02:52.13 | Furl | purl: irC |
| 02:52.14 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 02:52.17 | Kelfarr | ok this spamming is fun!! |
| 02:52.22 | Furl | Aye! |
| 02:52.26 | Furl | ~~~~ |
| 02:52.27 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT furl!!! |
| 02:52.34 | Furl | purl: NEVVA |
| 02:52.35 | Kelfarr | purl: retards name furl |
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| 02:53.29 | Furl | purl, no, furlenssao is the only blood elf warlock in the game with a half-portuguese, half-germanic name. And probably the only idiot retarded enough to name himself like that |
| 02:53.29 | purl | okay, Furl |
| 02:53.39 | Furl | ~thanks |
| 02:53.39 | purl | Furl: sure thing |
| 02:54.07 | Furl | I even show bots manners. Humans, less so |
| 02:54.36 | Kelfarr | ~pokemon |
| 02:54.37 | purl | ACTION is a Charizard, LOLZ!!! |
| 02:54.47 | Kelfarr | wow |
| 02:54.52 | Kelfarr | that was a command |
| 02:55.31 | Kaso | if purl was case sensitive i'd set LUA to be Lua Unquestionably isn't an Acronym |
| 02:56.38 | Furl | purl, wow? |
| 02:56.39 | purl | I have no life | Lets go raid! |
| 02:56.44 | Kaso | hah |
| 02:57.04 | Furl | ~WoW |
| 02:57.04 | purl | I have no life | Lets go raid! |
| 02:57.14 | Furl | May I spam that at random times please? |
| 02:57.24 | Kaso | no |
| 02:57.37 | Kaso | only at pre-defined intervels can you spam that! |
| 02:58.14 | Furl | Wonder if I can make the luabot delay his answer |
| 02:59.26 | Furl | One sec, going to try to get purl in an infinite loop |
| 02:59.49 | purl-- | purl: purl |
| 02:59.50 | purl | purl is, like, purl |
| 03:00.05 | purl-- | Wait |
| 03:00.11 | purl-- | purl: canada |
| 03:00.11 | purl | We're really sorry we beat you at hockey in the olympics, it's just that we're much much much much MUCH better than you. |
| 03:00.21 | purl-- | Hmm.... |
| 03:00.30 | purl-- | Omg voice |
| 03:00.39 | Kaso | in #wowwiki we have another bot that can go into infinite loop with purl |
| 03:00.50 | Furl | Orly? |
| 03:00.56 | Kaso | mmhm |
| 03:01.04 | Furl | Do it do it! |
| 03:01.09 | Furl | Or tell me how so I take the blame |
| 03:01.27 | Furl | Hahaha |
| 03:01.28 | Furl | lol |
| 03:01.39 | Kaso | >.< someone broke it ! |
| 03:01.49 | Furl | How'ssat? |
| 03:01.59 | Kaso | ah well just as well i couldn't have stopped the loop |
| 03:02.14 | Kaso | the disabled one of the factoids in the loop so it stops |
| 03:03.21 | Furl | I need to learn my letters :( |
| 03:03.27 | Furl | They broke alot eh? |
| 03:04.08 | Kaso | prob, it is pretty bad having bots going round in loops |
| 03:04.15 | Kaso | (dont fix it) |
| 03:04.23 | Furl | Would [[w:Dog]] work with newbot? |
| 03:04.29 | Furl | newsbot* |
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| 03:06.27 | Furl | Bah! Gnooooooome |
| 03:06.27 | Kaso | sure |
| 03:06.45 | Kaso | also {{template}} links work |
| 03:06.55 | Furl | It didn't work |
| 03:07.27 | Kaso | w:Dog ? |
| 03:07.48 | Furl | Aye |
| 03:07.57 | Furl | purl: mac |
| 03:07.57 | purl | rumour has it, mac is the best computer ever, or an abbreviation for Moves, Adds and Changes |
| 03:08.03 | Furl | AaAAAAAAAH |
| 03:08.11 | Kaso | what effect were you intending to have ? |
| 03:08.21 | Furl | purl, no, mac is ... MAC?!???! *chomp* |
| 03:08.22 | purl | okay, Furl |
| 03:08.26 | Furl | purl, mac? |
| 03:08.27 | purl | mac is, like, ... MAC?!???! *chomp* |
| 03:08.33 | cogwheel | /rawr |
| 03:08.45 | Furl | Gnomes don't roar. |
| 03:08.50 | Furl | They rawr. |
| 03:09.02 | Furl | i'd like to see a gnomish druid |
| 03:09.25 | dylanm | kitty! |
| 03:10.05 | Furl | Teehee |
| 03:11.02 | Furl | Nooooes |
| 03:11.11 | Furl | I almost got to the top of Z'A then fell off my wall :( |
| 03:12.08 | Furl | Okay, that's better |
| 03:12.50 | Furl | [I love my mouse, made a wall-climbing macro, lol] |
| 03:13.05 | Furl | Holy crap. |
| 03:13.09 | Furl | Error 134 atop Z'A |
| 03:13.12 | Furl | I hate you, IRC> |
| 03:16.22 | Furl | So much haste in Zul'Aman and my guild has no need for warlocks in there :( |
| 03:16.29 | Furl | Wait wrong thing |
| 03:16.31 | Furl | gear* |
| 03:16.34 | Furl | Bleh |
| 03:16.38 | Furl | I said that wrong lol |
| 03:16.46 | Kelfarr | yeah well unless you are destro it won't matter |
| 03:21.37 | Furl | I said I said it wrong, lol |
| 03:24.59 | Kelfarr | hmm whats a good pve server to transfer to |
| 03:29.13 | Kelfarr | btw guys I am changing my name when I transfer servers so I won't be kelfarr anymore |
| 03:42.01 | Shirik | Kelfarr: Drenden! |
| 03:42.10 | Shirik | horde or alliance? |
| 03:47.26 | kd3 | ok. I've got an OS X disc in front of me and I can't figure out how to get the non-bootcamp partition to mount. ideas? |
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| 03:49.02 | |Jelly| | What's your new name gonna be? |
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| 03:54.54 | Kelfarr | horde |
| 03:55.03 | Kelfarr | savless is my new name which is what it usually is |
| 03:55.06 | Kelfarr | saveless*** |
| 03:55.28 | Kelfarr | I am probably transfering to senjin |
| 03:55.41 | Kelfarr | its in BG9 and has good amount of horde guilds |
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| 04:07.40 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know of TextSpy? I don't understand how to create a trigger with it. |
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| 04:09.32 | Mike-N-Go | My dilemma is when I am on backup DKP, there is a tell that goes to the guild chat, I generally miss it, so I would like to get the screen to flash, a sound to play, or something so I don't miss it. Or, if you know anything that I can have it allert me whenever the chars "NRT" appear in guild chat.. |
| 04:16.14 | Corrodias | my guild voted to stop using DKP for the time being |
| 04:16.25 | Corrodias | we haven't started hitting TK or SSC for reals yet, though |
| 04:16.25 | bleeter | I keep finding excuses to play my mage just so I can use the epic engi mount |
| 04:16.54 | batrick | Corrodias: what are you using instead? |
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| 04:17.18 | Corrodias | just /rolls, with preference to main/offspec/etc |
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| 04:40.58 | Rayne | What did I do now? |
| 04:42.00 | Rayne | akgthywtapoh[ywpagh This shammy just Earth Shocked me for 2600 and Lightning Bolted me for 3500...wow... |
| 04:42.35 | Rayne | fuckin ouch |
| 04:43.35 | Kelfarr | rayne I have had enough of your bullshit! |
| 04:43.46 | Rayne | Ok |
| 04:43.52 | Rayne | What are you gonna do about it |
| 04:44.01 | Wobwork | Sigh loudly at you. |
| 04:44.04 | Kelfarr | lets fight about it |
| 04:44.08 | Kelfarr | ethugging |
| 04:44.10 | Duman | FITE |
| 04:44.13 | Rayne | aight |
| 04:44.16 | Rayne | Kel |
| 04:44.20 | Kelfarr | flag pole, 3:15 |
| 04:44.20 | Rayne | I got 2 words for you. |
| 04:44.29 | a-stray-cat | omg ethugs! flee! |
| 04:44.31 | Rayne | Vertacle. Healthbars. |
| 04:44.36 | Kelfarr | NOOES |
| 04:44.39 | Rayne | >:[ |
| 04:44.49 | Kelfarr | vertical |
| 04:45.06 | Kelfarr | grammar police! |
| 04:46.09 | Rayne | Im tempted to try Jellys Envy UI on my Hunter... |
| 04:50.36 | Kelfarr | then do it? |
| 04:50.50 | Rayne | Im tanking on my warrior atm :P |
| 04:52.50 | Kelfarr | weird |
| 04:53.16 | Kelfarr | someone DLed my UI and I use 1280x1024 resolution but he had to make his 1440x900 to get everything in the right spot |
| 04:55.49 | Kelfarr | 135 hits today yay |
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| 04:59.17 | kd3 | <3 finding game music I've forgotten I'd come across |
| 05:01.33 | Kelfarr | i need a new cpu |
| 05:01.42 | Kelfarr | mine is only 1.8 ghz XD |
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| 05:05.22 | art3mis | ya moonwitch is making cycircleds now too |
| 05:06.50 | art3mis | err yay |
| 05:10.12 | |Jelly| | good thing? |
| 05:13.04 | Rayne | Jelly |
| 05:13.22 | Rayne | What Res is your Envy UI built on? Im gonna download it for my Huntard :3 |
| 05:13.25 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 05:13.30 | |Jelly| | 1280x1024 |
| 05:13.35 | Rayne | kk |
| 05:15.34 | Rayne | YOUR SONG TITLE IS BLOODROCUTED |
| 05:15.52 | Thunder_Child | ewww...1280X1024 |
| 05:15.58 | art3mis | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071115-octobers-npd-numbers-show-the-utter-domination-of-guitar-hero-3.html |
| 05:17.02 | Wobwork | https://www.gelaskins.com/skins.php?Device=1&Category=4&Skin=138&ProductCode=257 |
| 05:17.06 | Wobwork | I want it =\ |
| 05:17.11 | Wobwork | for my 1st gen ipod |
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| 05:22.31 | Thunder_Child | o Enforces 4x multi-sample anti-aliasing (MSAA) |
| 05:22.53 | Furl | Works fine at 1680x1050 |
| 05:22.57 | Thunder_Child | ...ingnore thatfor the moment |
| 05:23.03 | Thunder_Child | Direct3D 10.1 looks to be quite a significant release for DirectX. Some of the interesting points to note: |
| 05:23.05 | Furl | Of course I modded it up so much it doesn't matter |
| 05:23.08 | Thunder_Child | Will require Windows Vista SP1 |
| 05:23.12 | Furl | @ earlier Jelly UI comment |
| 05:23.13 | Thunder_Child | Not “supported” by current-generation DX10 hardware |
| 05:23.20 | Thunder_Child | Extension” to Direct3D 10 - “complete” D3D10 |
| 05:23.25 | Thunder_Child | 5 new API |
| 05:23.29 | Thunder_Child | Improves rendering quality |
| 05:23.56 | Thunder_Child | point 2 pisses me off |
| 05:24.56 | Corrodias | microsoft gives us the shaft again with directx |
| 05:26.29 | Corrodias | directx 9. now 9b. now 9c. now 9c monthly updates but we don't give them new version numbers or tell anybody. oh hey, require vista just for fun |
| 05:26.56 | Corrodias | *require vista because nobody will buy it, otherwise |
| 05:27.05 | Thunder_Child | but incremental changes in 9.x never required the purches of new hardware |
| 05:27.11 | Corrodias | true |
| 05:27.47 | Corrodias | if they want to add API, they should wait for directx-damn-11 and number it as such. |
| 05:29.38 | Corrodias | i was doing research, some online window shopping, so to speak. my conclusion is that now is not the time for me to buy a new computer. |
| 05:30.30 | Corrodias | while intel supposedly holds the lead in the dual/quad core market over AMD, i still like nvidia cards (partly because i can keep track of them), and nvidia's SLI chipset offering for intel motherboards is not impressive yet. it needs another revision. |
| 05:31.05 | Corrodias | in addition, intel just got their 45nm process chips out the door, so in a while maybe we can get some cheaper ones. |
| 05:31.33 | Corrodias | now, if AMD takes the lead again in the meantime, that's all moot. |
| 05:33.01 | Corrodias | although i'd still have to wait for any new cpu out of them to come down in price |
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| 05:40.51 | art3mis | rapid fire ele for motes of fire in BE is still there |
| 05:41.17 | Wobwork | what's that? |
| 05:41.30 | art3mis | ya know those fire eles right before the netherstorm bridge? |
| 05:41.35 | art3mis | they persistent spawn |
| 05:41.41 | art3mis | no waiting around to farm ;P |
| 05:41.45 | Wobwork | ah yeah |
| 05:51.28 | Tem | woah, wait, what? |
| 05:51.37 | Tem | windows supports a ghetto system link functionality? |
| 05:52.06 | MentalPower | ñtfslink |
| 05:52.10 | MentalPower | ~ntfslink |
| 05:53.03 | MentalPower | purl ntfslink is http://www.elsdoerfer.info/=ntfslink |
| 05:53.04 | purl | MentalPower: okay |
| 05:53.07 | MentalPower | ~ntfslink |
| 05:53.08 | purl | somebody said ntfslink was http://www.elsdoerfer.info/=ntfslink |
| 05:53.14 | MentalPower | Tem: ^^^^ |
| 05:53.16 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, the issue with coming up with good reasons to wait is that you will always have good reasons to wait...and will never get anywhere |
| 05:53.24 | Tem | MentalPower, *boggle* |
| 05:53.27 | Thunder_Child | s/have/find/ |
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| 05:55.52 | MentalPower | Tem: been there since Win2k |
| 05:55.58 | Tem | really? |
| 05:55.59 | Tem | wow |
| 05:56.13 | Tem | I should change my development styl |
| 05:56.15 | Tem | style* |
| 05:56.22 | Tem | and stick those in my addon directory |
| 05:56.28 | Tem | instead of deving straight from there |
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| 06:35.22 | Cairenn | okay guys, sites are pretty much back to normal, I'm going to actually go sleep tonight - don't expect to see me before noon tomorrow ;) |
| 06:35.38 | kd3 | g'night |
| 06:35.48 | MentalPower | night Cair, sweet dreams |
| 06:36.37 | TC-Holding | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jds9FmCPUbY |
| 06:37.07 | TC-Holding | Fuel air bomb ftw |
| 06:37.09 | art3mis | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/11/14/scisurf114.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox |
| 06:44.12 | art3mis | The result of the E8 calculation, which contains all the information about E8 and its representations, is 60 gigabytes in size. |
| 06:44.22 | art3mis | good god |
| 06:45.06 | kd3 | e8's something like 257-dimensional? 60GB's a lot of space but all things considered, not that much |
| 06:45.45 | art3mis | thats just the calculation |
| 06:45.49 | art3mis | pure madness |
| 06:46.11 | art3mis | appearantly if written out in tiny print it would cover manhatten |
| 07:00.26 | Thunder_Child | hmm..i wonder what happens if the LHC finds a higgs boson |
| 07:01.20 | art3mis | the universe ceases to exist as the alien that made it will have finally passed his midterm |
| 07:01.24 | MentalPower | the universe implodes |
| 07:01.58 | art3mis | or the earth gets blown upto make way for an interstellar overpass ;P |
| 07:02.13 | Thunder_Child | i mean in relation to this guys theory |
| 07:02.22 | Thunder_Child | not in general |
| 07:02.40 | art3mis | oh |
| 07:03.48 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i need to start going to the LA auto show |
| 07:13.25 | Wobin | art3mis: That's been on the plans for decades |
| 07:13.30 | Wobin | Haven't you -seen- them? |
| 07:14.10 | art3mis | i didnt get the notice |
| 07:14.44 | art3mis | oh and in general if they do find the higgs boson string theory and all it's ilk evaporates as the ravings of madmen ;P |
| 07:14.54 | art3mis | and sience goes back to being singular and pure ;P |
| 07:23.09 | Rayne | AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH |
| 07:23.33 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, higgs boson and string theory dont mix, they are two seperate things |
| 07:23.53 | Thunder_Child | one uses lines the other uses points |
| 07:24.08 | Thunder_Child | i think |
| 07:25.43 | Thunder_Child | "The mass of each particle, and the fashion with which it can interact, are determined by the way the string vibrates — the string can vibrate in many different modes, just like a guitar string can produce different notes." |
| 07:26.04 | Thunder_Child | while the higgs mechanism is supposed to "create" mass for particles |
| 07:26.28 | Thunder_Child | so thats string theory vs. particle theory |
| 07:26.33 | Thunder_Child | in the mass department |
| 07:33.50 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: thats what art3mis said, if they find a higgs, string theory goes up in flames |
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| 07:34.39 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower|ZZzz, ah, i misunderstood him |
| 07:34.56 | Thunder_Child | though they dont automaticly go up in smoke |
| 07:35.10 | MentalPower|ZZzz | right, a generalization |
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| 07:37.29 | art3mis | someone gimme a who beta key ;) |
| 07:37.47 | Thunder_Child | who? |
| 07:38.15 | art3mis | that was a statement/demand ;P |
| 07:38.31 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 07:38.34 | art3mis | i would love nothing more on this earth than higgs to be found |
| 07:39.08 | art3mis | string theory is diverting way to much in the way of resources for a theory that can't even be proved wrong because it can't be tested in real world |
| 07:41.30 | Arcaia | anyone think that with the new gear at low levels it would be doable to level a lock desto ? |
| 07:41.33 | Thunder_Child | neither can the higgs boson atm |
| 07:41.45 | Thunder_Child | just because it cant be done now doesnt mean it is worthless |
| 07:44.57 | Rayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:45.16 | Rayne | this guy downloaded my UI after he reinstalled WoW, and now WoW isnt reading the WTF or anything. |
| 07:45.34 | art3mis | he's gotta log in at least once ;) |
| 07:45.34 | Thunder_Child | i doubt that |
| 07:45.43 | art3mis | fully login |
| 07:45.47 | Thunder_Child | not you art3mis |
| 07:46.01 | art3mis | i know |
| 07:46.08 | dreamss | is he using the right wow dir : |
| 07:47.20 | Rayne | He did |
| 07:47.51 | pastamancer | anyone from finland around? And if so, am I missing out on other great bands like Leningrad Cowboys? |
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| 07:50.00 | Tierrie_ | lol |
| 07:50.27 | Tierrie_ | the leningrad cowboys are a comedy act |
| 07:50.38 | Tierrie_ | i know a few good swedish bands |
| 07:51.18 | Tierrie_ | nina persson did some really nice solo works |
| 07:52.20 | Tierrie_ | justice from france is awesome |
| 07:52.34 | Tierrie_ | its probably the world's best house band right now |
| 07:54.28 | Tierrie_ | you also want to check out Lordi |
| 07:54.28 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/11/top-11-signs-you-need-to-step-away-from-the-computer.html |
| 07:55.41 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/BBloopers/2007/11/3105.php |
| 07:59.13 | foxlit | Meh |
| 07:59.18 | foxlit | I almost expected that to be a top 3 list |
| 07:59.19 | Thunder_Child | meh, they could have done a better top 11 |
| 07:59.27 | art3mis | Ultima 8 was released in 1994 and took the game engine another step, but more importantly it took the story in another step. In Ultima 8 you're no longer in "the Ultima world". Many people think Ultima 8 sucked, and blame EA for that. In EA's defence, buying popular franchises and making them suck was a force of habit. |
| 07:59.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:00.23 | art3mis | http://srslycool.com/27.aspx#p432 |
| 08:00.38 | Thunder_Child | hmmm...beowolf comes out today |
| 08:02.48 | pastamancer | Tierrie_: I need more music to scare my guildmates with on vent ;) |
| 08:03.12 | Thunder_Child | Johnathin coultain? |
| 08:03.25 | pastamancer | who hasn't heard that though |
| 08:03.34 | Thunder_Child | "jonathan coulton" |
| 08:03.38 | Thunder_Child | damn i cant spell |
| 08:03.45 | Thunder_Child | uhh....TMBG? |
| 08:04.12 | Thunder_Child | tmbg = They might be giants |
| 08:04.15 | Tierrie_ | pastamancer: check our Justice and Lordi |
| 08:04.16 | pastamancer | I'm in the US, so I'm looking for euro bands to find stuff they haven't seen before |
| 08:04.22 | pastamancer | checking out justice right now |
| 08:04.30 | Tierrie_ | Phantom is especially good |
| 08:04.42 | pastamancer | everyone in the US has at least heard TMBC on tiny toons |
| 08:04.48 | pastamancer | err, TMBG |
| 08:04.50 | Thunder_Child | tiny loons? |
| 08:04.54 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 08:04.57 | Thunder_Child | i cant read either |
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| 08:05.08 | pastamancer | Moxy Fruvous might be worth a try |
| 08:05.16 | Thunder_Child | what did they did they do on tiny toons? |
| 08:05.28 | pastamancer | Particle man, Istanbul |
| 08:05.39 | art3mis | moxy fruvous is great |
| 08:05.39 | Thunder_Child | huh...never knew that |
| 08:05.49 | pastamancer | videos and everything |
| 08:05.57 | Thunder_Child | birdhouse in your soul is still one of the best though |
| 08:05.58 | art3mis | chick publications rules btw |
| 08:06.02 | art3mis | http://www.hellblazer.com/media/chick-cthulu.html |
| 08:06.10 | pastamancer | jack chick? |
| 08:06.16 | art3mis | no chick publications |
| 08:06.26 | art3mis | this "christian" group that makes little comics about things are bad |
| 08:06.40 | Tierrie_ | i loved ultima |
| 08:06.41 | pastamancer | sounds like jack chick |
| 08:06.42 | Tierrie_ | 8 and 9 ws balls |
| 08:06.51 | art3mis | pastamancer, just go download some Anal Cunt for vent night ;P |
| 08:07.18 | Tierrie_ | Lords of Acid is always good for a giggle |
| 08:07.33 | Tierrie_ | I like "F*K me up the" |
| 08:07.33 | art3mis | hehe they're still on my playlist |
| 08:07.41 | pastamancer | Gogol Bordello and Promoe are in heavy rotatioj currently |
| 08:07.43 | pastamancer | err, rotation |
| 08:08.11 | art3mis | good chick bands are Stolen Bbies, lacuna coil, collide |
| 08:08.18 | art3mis | stolen babies rather |
| 08:08.23 | pastamancer | and I sneak in a bit of The Knife when things are slow |
| 08:08.45 | art3mis | and L'ame Imortelle is good too |
| 08:09.20 | pastamancer | hmm, justice and lordi don't really do it for me fomr what I found on youtube... I'm looking more for wierd |
| 08:10.16 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GcZHxXTW90 |
| 08:10.35 | art3mis | and the singer is a hottie |
| 08:10.40 | pastamancer | I'm likeing what I hear of l'ame ammortelle, I wish I understood german better but it sounds like it would be good to stick inbetween Blind Guardian songs |
| 08:10.49 | art3mis | reminds me of the evil girl from the craft |
| 08:11.05 | Thunder_Child | looks does not a good singer make |
| 08:11.13 | art3mis | its a great band |
| 08:11.24 | art3mis | tim burton meets mister bungle ;P |
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| 08:11.37 | art3mis | fucked up clown music always great |
| 08:12.00 | pastamancer | haha, I had forgotten about mr. bungle |
| 08:12.36 | AnduinLothar | she's liek a tenor |
| 08:12.48 | Wobin | that's scary |
| 08:12.59 | AnduinLothar | or the song is just rly low |
| 08:12.59 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwxtPzV1zHQ |
| 08:13.12 | art3mis | find some others i find that voice incredibly attractive btw |
| 08:13.17 | art3mis | so im a touch biased |
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| 08:13.30 | Wobin | nah |
| 08:13.32 | Wobin | she's just an alto |
| 08:13.44 | Thunder_Child | and more along the lines of speaking than singing |
| 08:13.53 | art3mis | ever heard the song "don't need a man" from gwar? |
| 08:14.08 | art3mis | love that song too |
| 08:14.13 | Thunder_Child | lots of promenet singers have lower voices |
| 08:14.19 | art3mis | evanescence |
| 08:14.24 | Thunder_Child | shakira |
| 08:14.28 | art3mis | yup |
| 08:14.51 | Thunder_Child | Anastacia |
| 08:14.53 | Wobin | Shakira has far too low a voice for her body size =P |
| 08:15.02 | art3mis | oh inkubus succubus is a good too |
| 08:15.05 | Thunder_Child | but a really nice body |
| 08:15.14 | Wobin | granted, I say that as a small bass, so a bit hypocritical |
| 08:15.44 | pastamancer | are there any laughably bad hip-hop groups on the european charts? |
| 08:16.09 | Wobin | what was that 'boyband' with the disabled guys in wheelchairs? |
| 08:16.25 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ1sDMN70vo okay this video is great |
| 08:17.03 | art3mis | figner bang? |
| 08:17.03 | art3mis | finger |
| 08:17.50 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM0RMxjOuyE&feature=related <-- gothyish/heart type music |
| 08:17.54 | art3mis | but shes got a nice voice too |
| 08:19.40 | pastamancer | reminds me of evanescence |
| 08:20.22 | Thunder_Child | heh, basshunter |
| 08:22.06 | Wobin | how many tabs can a guildbank tab if a guildbank can tab tabs? |
| 08:22.12 | Thunder_Child | 6 i think |
| 08:22.16 | pastamancer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaTckmV3EFk looptroop is pretty funny |
| 08:22.16 | Wobin | Thankee |
| 08:22.48 | Thunder_Child | "You can buy up to 6 tabs of 98 slots each (588 slots max)." |
| 08:22.55 | Wobin | ah 98, thanks =) |
| 08:22.59 | Thunder_Child | 9350 Gold total |
| 08:23.19 | Thunder_Child | (for all 6) |
| 08:23.46 | Thunder_Child | Wobin http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php#post_gbanks (if you need more info) |
| 08:23.53 | pastamancer | I'm scheduled to sign at least 4 guild charters in the next week for friends that are starting guilds for their bank alts |
| 08:24.05 | Thunder_Child | heh, mine already has one |
| 08:24.30 | art3mis | awesome! |
| 08:24.45 | art3mis | the band brand new siin that i saw at the motorhead gig a few years ago is playing here in a week |
| 08:24.59 | art3mis | http://www.myspace.com/brandnewsin |
| 08:25.06 | art3mis | select my world |
| 08:26.54 | art3mis | oh btw |
| 08:27.19 | art3mis | it is a international law that if motorhead tours near you you HAVE to see them at least once to understand the godhood that is lemmy |
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| 08:28.58 | art3mis | oo wembley stadium is alice cooper joan jett and motorhead |
| 08:29.43 | pastamancer | any other suggestions for incredibly wierd/horrible music to subject my guild to? |
| 08:30.18 | dreamss | shaman/pally song |
| 08:31.11 | pastamancer | hmm? |
| 08:31.36 | art3mis | wish i still have my car |
| 08:31.46 | pastamancer | oh my... I had forgotten about Die Fantastichen Vier |
| 08:31.50 | art3mis | stevie wonder is playing at the mohegan sun casino this month |
| 08:32.05 | dreamss | rick roll! |
| 08:32.14 | pastamancer | done it already :( |
| 08:32.20 | pastamancer | our MT sang along |
| 08:32.56 | art3mis | when something happens in south central los angeles nothing happens, it's just a notha nigga dead |
| 08:33.02 | art3mis | that needs to be played often ;P |
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| 08:34.29 | dreamss | http://www.futuristicsexrobotz.com/?p=music |
| 08:34.32 | dreamss | try that pasta |
| 08:34.38 | pastamancer | I get a lot of requests for Snoop and the grey Album |
| 08:34.41 | pastamancer | haha, I like that url |
| 08:35.01 | dreamss | and yes |
| 08:35.05 | dreamss | its a WoW song |
| 08:35.44 | art3mis | http://www.starz.com/appmanager/seg/s?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=template&template_dir=/features/bunnies/&template_file=content.html |
| 08:35.54 | art3mis | ^^ ownage |
| 08:36.56 | art3mis | bunny theatre rules |
| 08:37.24 | dreamss | oooh |
| 08:37.29 | dreamss | i love u so much |
| 08:40.42 | dreamss | i just watched 4 movies on 2 minutes |
| 08:40.43 | dreamss | : |
| 08:41.05 | art3mis | http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1895,2213506,00.asp |
| 08:41.10 | art3mis | *quivers* |
| 08:41.30 | art3mis | Cray's new XT5 system will support the older XT4 blades as well as new eight-socket blades designed for the XT5. Up to 24 of these blades can fit into a single cabinet and support up to 768 CPU cores |
| 08:41.56 | art3mis | Cray currently offers two of the most powerful supercomputing systems in the world, with sustained performances of more than 100 teraflops, or 100 trillion calculations a second. The two machines are ranked just below IBM's Blue Gene/L system at the Department of Energy's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California. |
| 08:42.20 | art3mis | my ....god |
| 08:42.41 | Thunder_Child | uhh..there is better now i think |
| 08:42.55 | art3mis | Company executives said that by the middle of next year, Cray expects to begin building systems large enough to offer a performance of a petaflop, or 1 quadrillion calculations per second. |
| 08:43.07 | art3mis | they arent unvieling/displaying til this month |
| 08:43.25 | dreamss | sounds like it costs about 200 grand |
| 08:43.34 | dreamss | or close to 500 |
| 08:43.35 | dreamss | : |
| 08:43.51 | Thunder_Child | "NEC has thrown down the world's most powerful supercomputer, called the SX-9, which is intended for pioneering scientific research. The beast of a machine can pull out an astonishing 839 trillion floating point operations / second (839 teraflops). The computing giant will go on display in Reno, Nevada, later this month." |
| 08:44.03 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:44.10 | art3mis | i REALLY wanna go to that show |
| 08:44.13 | art3mis | and run rc5 ;) |
| 08:44.18 | dreamss | "what should do with it now?" "i dunno.. play doom?" |
| 08:44.23 | art3mis | hahah yeah |
| 08:44.38 | dreamss | "nono lets crack this zip file password" "good idea" |
| 08:44.38 | Thunder_Child | not quite the same |
| 08:45.04 | art3mis | "man *damn im dead*this will*dead again* own for*god dammit* quake 4*okay this sucks* |
| 08:45.34 | art3mis | or seti |
| 08:45.41 | dreamss | fold@home |
| 08:45.42 | dreamss | : |
| 08:45.58 | art3mis | blue gene was built for the genome project ;P |
| 08:45.58 | Thunder_Child | cant run standard programs on them |
| 08:46.09 | art3mis | cray was system v ;) |
| 08:46.14 | art3mis | the original once anyways |
| 08:46.17 | art3mis | ones |
| 08:46.20 | dreamss | were aware thunder |
| 08:46.25 | dreamss | let the geeks geek out |
| 08:46.38 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 08:46.44 | Thunder_Child | geeks are usualy exacting |
| 08:46.46 | dreamss | :( |
| 08:46.52 | art3mis | "we made a computer that can beat a human chess grandmaster..what now?" "i dunno lets do something useful" |
| 08:47.27 | dreamss | those servers are cool, virtual servers and all the badass shit |
| 08:47.30 | art3mis | friend of mine used to work geology had a deep blue on his 2 geology survey ships |
| 08:47.35 | dreamss | but not rly can take it home |
| 08:47.45 | art3mis | that made me envious |
| 08:48.05 | art3mis | in the same way im envious of people who have a 1tb raid array |
| 08:48.12 | art3mis | i dont need one, but i want one |
| 08:48.14 | dreamss | my buddy used to be in the project that scanned for dark maatter |
| 08:48.22 | dreamss | that shit was cool |
| 08:48.58 | art3mis | http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/nov2007/id20071114_257766.htm?campaign_id=rss_tech |
| 08:49.15 | art3mis | Are you on the digital A-list? It's no longer enough to get invited to exclusive conferences or be asked to join professional organizations—many movers and shakers are taking their hobnobbing online, where a new crop of social networks aim to keep out the riff-raff by demanding credentials at the virtual door. |
| 08:49.22 | art3mis | Yes we call it IRC, welcome |
| 08:49.35 | dreamss | shhh |
| 08:49.43 | Thunder_Child | ~irc |
| 08:49.43 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 08:49.46 | Thunder_Child | and leave it at that |
| 08:50.19 | dreamss | not entierly accurate |
| 08:50.21 | dreamss | close tho |
| 08:50.57 | Thunder_Child | wrong, it's completly acurate, unlike my spelling |
| 08:51.14 | dreamss | fbi agents are usually pirates |
| 08:51.24 | dreamss | or backwards |
| 08:52.12 | dreamss | where children are men, the women dont talk, pirates are fbi agents : |
| 08:52.20 | MoonWolf | fbi agents are usually setarip |
| 08:52.20 | art3mis | http://ajaxian.com/archives/silverlight-minesweeper |
| 08:53.26 | art3mis | http://www.apple.com/safari/ <-- woah |
| 08:53.43 | dreamss | so u canadians, bestbuy.ca is matching us prices for black friday |
| 08:53.47 | dreamss | heh |
| 08:54.00 | art3mis | laugh |
| 08:54.04 | art3mis | like thats a big deal ;P |
| 08:54.10 | art3mis | they're mostly equal ;) |
| 08:54.22 | Thunder_Child | crap fest http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2633-Zero-Punctuation-Clive-Barker-s-Jericho |
| 08:55.09 | dreamss | not a bad game |
| 08:55.41 | pastamancer | hmm.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GplSKZbGsU is the kind of stuff I'm looking for |
| 08:56.22 | Thunder_Child | that reminds me of an old school german porno |
| 08:56.34 | pastamancer | those might work well on vent |
| 08:56.53 | Thunder_Child | well minus the singing |
| 08:57.07 | Thunder_Child | or should i say a different kind of singing |
| 08:57.19 | pastamancer | if I could find a musical german porno, I'd be the king of vent |
| 08:57.32 | Wobin | woohoo |
| 08:57.34 | Wobin | new ZP |
| 08:57.36 | pastamancer | especially if the "sex" scenes were mic'd really well |
| 08:57.50 | Thunder_Child | have you tried Gunter? |
| 08:58.07 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 08:58.14 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 08:58.20 | pastamancer | gunther the pleasure man |
| 08:58.27 | art3mis | smacked them in the head with a bat made out of frozen stupid |
| 08:59.41 | art3mis | the brown castle the slightly green castle and the grey castle |
| 09:01.35 | art3mis | i think im going to hell for installing safari |
| 09:01.46 | pastamancer | on windows? |
| 09:01.50 | art3mis | yup |
| 09:02.02 | art3mis | the above safari link takes you to the winders beta |
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| 09:02.35 | Thunder_Child | i'll stick with the 3rd party app....much better |
| 09:02.58 | art3mis | hrm? |
| 09:04.10 | Thunder_Child | firefox |
| 09:04.19 | art3mis | oh |
| 09:04.23 | Thunder_Child | isnt made by either OS maker |
| 09:04.24 | art3mis | i tend to play with all of them |
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| 09:04.32 | art3mis | i have opera too for when im bored |
| 09:05.52 | pastamancer | I was going to suggest opera if you were hell-bent on installing an "alternative" browser |
| 09:06.49 | Thunder_Child | i used to use opera but found firefox to be far better |
| 09:08.12 | art3mis | ya know what i really like |
| 09:08.18 | art3mis | ubuntus firefox |
| 09:08.26 | art3mis | with its auto plugin finder |
| 09:08.36 | art3mis | that actually doesnt suck balls like the windows version |
| 09:08.55 | dreamss | opera is such a ram whore nowdays |
| 09:09.56 | dreamss | seems like IE is the best browser around |
| 09:10.16 | dreamss | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_123/2620-Buy-Sell-or-Trade <-- heh |
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| 09:10.40 | Thunder_Child | "(01:09:55) (dreamss) seems like IE is the best browser around" <-- not quite |
| 09:11.14 | dreamss | depends on usage, but if u gonna alt tab while running wow it is |
| 09:11.25 | art3mis | welp safari fails |
| 09:12.13 | art3mis | it doesnt have an option to load in a tab so new links are popups/new windows |
| 09:12.13 | art3mis | and the popup blocker doesnt work and the prefs settings for not displaying the bookmarks bar doesnt actually work |
| 09:12.33 | Thunder_Child | dreamss, that what you get for playing wow not in a window |
| 09:12.47 | dreamss | it is windowed+fullscreen |
| 09:12.58 | Thunder_Child | then it's not really alt-tabing |
| 09:13.08 | pastamancer | windowed fullscreen is where it's at |
| 09:13.30 | pastamancer | even if it does mean running at 1900x1200 |
| 09:13.33 | Thunder_Child | i prefer windowed -fullscreen, i prefer it simply maximised |
| 09:13.51 | Thunder_Child | i dont like it covering my taskbarr |
| 09:14.04 | dreamss | i autohide mine |
| 09:14.44 | Thunder_Child | i prefer to have all info at a moments notice...i do the same for my UI |
| 09:14.46 | dreamss | wow locks the mouse in its window |
| 09:15.08 | Thunder_Child | not for me |
| 09:15.17 | dreamss | also makes windows key less dangerous while keeping it usefull |
| 09:15.27 | pastamancer | what windows key? :p |
| 09:16.21 | dreamss | pastamancer, if u run full screen windowed mode, wow renders at desktop res? |
| 09:16.48 | pastamancer | dreamss: I run it at desktop resolution in fulscreen windowed mode |
| 09:16.56 | pastamancer | dreamss: not sure if it's required |
| 09:17.29 | pastamancer | I've run it windowed at less than fulscreen resolution before but I didn't have the "fulscreen windowed" checkbox marked |
| 09:17.41 | dreamss | i been playing wow at 1280x1024 : |
| 09:17.59 | pastamancer | I did before I got a new gaming computer |
| 09:19.03 | dreamss | i allways tought wow would render at whatever u have it set as |
| 09:19.07 | pastamancer | hmm, ok... windowed fulscreen doesn't require that you run at desktop resolution |
| 09:20.05 | dreamss | oh it is rendering at desktop res |
| 09:20.06 | pastamancer | I'm not sure that the resolution you select has any effect though |
| 09:20.16 | art3mis | yeah it does |
| 09:20.23 | pastamancer | I'm getting the same FPS at 1024x768 as I am at 1900x1200 |
| 09:20.28 | art3mis | if yer 1920x1600 set it at 1280x1024 and watch ;P |
| 09:20.51 | dreamss | yeah just tried that past |
| 09:21.10 | pastamancer | didn't have any change for me with fullscreen+windowed |
| 09:21.27 | pastamancer | err, windowed + maximized |
| 09:21.29 | dreamss | awesome, and i tought my pc was crap |
| 09:21.37 | Thunder_Child | it is |
| 09:21.46 | dreamss | its been rendering at higher res all along |
| 09:21.57 | dreamss | indeed : but less than i tought |
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| 09:23.14 | dreamss | its relative, ok? |
| 09:23.40 | pastamancer | "sucks less" is a good benchmark |
| 09:23.48 | Thunder_Child | no, but in fairness i'm an asshole so it works better if you just ignore me...i like to torment people |
| 09:23.53 | Thunder_Child | :P |
| 09:24.09 | pastamancer | Thunder_Child: torment G for me... I saw the DragonCon pics |
| 09:24.22 | Thunder_Child | i dont work there any more |
| 09:24.26 | pastamancer | aww |
| 09:24.29 | Thunder_Child | havent for quite a while now |
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| 09:24.45 | pastamancer | I miss having a secret tormentor for him |
| 09:25.02 | Thunder_Child | ya...it's hard to torment your bosses boss and get away with it |
| 09:25.24 | pastamancer | I almost ended up taking a system architect job under G |
| 09:25.28 | Thunder_Child | though i think i managed it from time to time |
| 09:25.58 | Thunder_Child | i got out of the networking stuff....isnt my thing |
| 09:26.04 | pastamancer | ah |
| 09:26.18 | dreamss | well see, i been thinking wow would run better at 1024x768 :P heh |
| 09:26.26 | Thunder_Child | now i do math |
| 09:26.48 | pastamancer | hmm, I prefer packets to integrals |
| 09:27.10 | Thunder_Child | i'll find out when i work my way up the math ladder..but for now that seems to be it |
| 09:27.17 | dreamss | IT can be a lazy job |
| 09:27.47 | Thunder_Child | too lazy |
| 09:27.48 | dreamss | pastamancer, how come u dint get the job at google? |
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| 09:28.04 | Thunder_Child | i spent 5 of 8 hours bored out of my mind |
| 09:28.08 | pastamancer | I'm working for a non-profit. The hours are as relaxed as the dresscode. |
| 09:28.18 | art3mis | i work for myself ;) |
| 09:28.32 | dreamss | jobs at google are heaven |
| 09:28.38 | dreamss | stock is crazy high |
| 09:29.01 | pastamancer | I tried consulting for a while. It was too stressy for me. I much prefer to be pointed at a problem and be told "fix it". |
| 09:29.11 | art3mis | nah its not that bad |
| 09:29.25 | art3mis | its a pia to drum up new business mind you |
| 09:29.29 | dreamss | depends who u consult for |
| 09:29.30 | art3mis | but its rather slack |
| 09:29.42 | Legorol | Are there any known issues/bugs with the guild bank controls, in particular the dropdown menu? |
| 09:30.03 | Legorol | My guild master is complaining of Lua errors and problems, even without addons, but i can't get a coherent explanation out of him |
| 09:30.05 | pastamancer | most of my experience at the time was in systems administration and integration |
| 09:30.16 | pastamancer | which is a pita to do on a consultant basis |
| 09:30.28 | art3mis | to a degree |
| 09:31.02 | art3mis | im in the middle of a complete network swap over to firewall traffic shaping and renameing all the computers for about 70 seperate company offices in a multi suite |
| 09:31.15 | dreamss | i have a friend who makes a killing on hispanic radio stations |
| 09:31.30 | pastamancer | on the other hand, if anyone here knows IOS and BGP like the back of their hand, I'd like your contact info for potential future contracting |
| 09:31.33 | art3mis | the only pain in the ass is the floor manager who doesnt understand that she can just say "we know there's a problem and are working on fixing it" and leave it at that |
| 09:31.54 | dreamss | lol |
| 09:32.27 | art3mis | and she called me this morning saying the internet was down even though email worked and iw as conencted to her machi e from my house through a vnc and conencted to the fw/router monitoring traffic |
| 09:32.47 | dreamss | she was calling tru voip too? :P |
| 09:32.53 | art3mis | no heh |
| 09:33.00 | dreamss | would been funny |
| 09:33.09 | art3mis | i turned on a proxy last night and fergot to disable it before i went to bed |
| 09:33.19 | art3mis | it wasnt configured at all so no one had web access |
| 09:33.22 | pastamancer | the last contract I did before calling it quits was setting up IIS + MSSQL |
| 09:33.44 | dreamss | thats not bad |
| 09:33.55 | dreamss | get a MS support contract :P |
| 09:34.01 | art3mis | and i dont think she quite realizes that in order for me to correct all the bw issues they've been having there needs to be "during the day" downtime to isolate and fix it |
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| 09:34.16 | pastamancer | the client was so horrible, I swore off consulting |
| 09:34.26 | dreamss | art3 whats the prob? |
| 09:34.58 | art3mis | someone last wednesday either started up a torrent or installed some insanely intensive constant connect db/trading software |
| 09:35.07 | dreamss | lol |
| 09:35.19 | art3mis | my traffic shaping has corrected that |
| 09:35.27 | art3mis | hehe bt now only gets 2kbit/1kbit |
| 09:35.52 | dreamss | im so surprised with tomato, only that the routers look cheap-ish for corps |
| 09:35.58 | art3mis | but the slight down side is that there are also static ips outside of my router for vnc and pcanywhere |
| 09:36.02 | dreamss | it can very well run a small office |
| 09:36.16 | art3mis | im using pfsense for the gateway |
| 09:36.28 | art3mis | i run tomato at my office and at home though |
| 09:36.50 | dreamss | the QoS interface is amazing |
| 09:37.18 | pastamancer | tomato? |
| 09:37.19 | art3mis | yeah its really nice |
| 09:37.37 | art3mis | a rad firmware replacement for linksys and buffalo routers |
| 09:37.42 | pastamancer | oh |
| 09:37.47 | pastamancer | get a real router :p |
| 09:37.53 | art3mis | why? |
| 09:37.59 | dreamss | theyr eal routers |
| 09:38.14 | dreamss | who makes linksys? |
| 09:38.16 | art3mis | there's no reason to go for a 24 port cisco for 2 peiople ;P |
| 09:38.19 | pastamancer | I got a cisco for my home because that's what I deal with at work |
| 09:38.23 | art3mis | linksys is balls ;P |
| 09:38.39 | art3mis | thats overkill and a waste |
| 09:38.44 | dreamss | cisco runs linksys |
| 09:38.45 | dreamss | hehe |
| 09:38.48 | pastamancer | I know the standard linksys firmware has a horribly low simlutaneous connection limit |
| 09:39.02 | art3mis | tomato makes crappy hardware useful ;p |
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| 09:39.19 | art3mis | cuz linksys/cisco cant make a decent router OS to save thier lives |
| 09:39.21 | dreamss | makes badly configured kernel usefull |
| 09:39.22 | dreamss | hehe |
| 09:39.29 | pastamancer | the small-business cisco routers are pretty nice |
| 09:39.39 | dreamss | http://www.polarcloud.com/img/ssqosg108.png |
| 09:39.42 | dreamss | check it pasta |
| 09:40.01 | art3mis | no compared to a simple nix box and shitty switch or a tomato router+shitty switch |
| 09:40.04 | art3mis | err not |
| 09:40.11 | krka | is tomato better than dd-wrt? |
| 09:40.11 | dreamss | btw i love using cisco routers as cheap irc proxys |
| 09:40.12 | dreamss | lol |
| 09:40.23 | dreamss | krka, same features better inferface |
| 09:40.25 | dreamss | basicly |
| 09:40.30 | krka | ah |
| 09:40.34 | art3mis | cisco is over priced garbage on anything short of a 10 building 3 city 600+ office |
| 09:40.38 | krka | i always though dd-wrt had the most features |
| 09:40.49 | krka | but it was a while since i even looked at tomato |
| 09:41.08 | dreamss | i dunno tomato would run a small office easly |
| 09:41.18 | pastamancer | dreamss: 557 concurrent connections? |
| 09:41.22 | dreamss | like insurance or lawyer office |
| 09:41.22 | krka | i have a linksys wrt54gl, it has run wonderful on dd-wrt for a year no |
| 09:41.24 | krka | now |
| 09:41.36 | pastamancer | I have a Cisco 851 |
| 09:41.50 | krka | i only had to use the shell once, and that was to set up starcraft for lan usage |
| 09:41.58 | pastamancer | runs like a champ, and I can steal IOS wizardry from my work routers |
| 09:42.23 | dreamss | all this replacement firmware does is take the linksys source code |
| 09:42.26 | dreamss | edit some stuff |
| 09:42.32 | dreamss | make new http interface |
| 09:42.53 | dreamss | dd-wrt/freeman/tomato |
| 09:43.10 | dreamss | pastamancer, the current connections |
| 09:43.20 | art3mis | and lets you wireless bridge ;P |
| 09:43.22 | dreamss | is a chart of the BW usaged currently and were its going |
| 09:43.37 | dreamss | used" |
| 09:43.40 | pastamancer | wireless bridging I can see getting alternative firmware for |
| 09:44.09 | krka | aren't there completely new firmware too? |
| 09:44.23 | dreamss | i love linksys pip adapter too |
| 09:45.06 | dreamss | nah krka its based on the linksys router source code |
| 09:45.10 | dreamss | all of them are |
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| 09:57.41 | krka | i see |
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| 10:41.46 | batrick | "According to Lance Robertson, the Producer of Warhammer Online, "we are aiming for the game interface to be very modifiable; the actual method we have chosen for WAR is to have LUA addons." Funny I've been looking for that for a long time, shoulda checked lua.org first >.> |
| 10:43.54 | Gngsk | sounds familiar |
| 10:54.20 | Legorol | i wonder where they got the idea from... |
| 10:54.47 | Legorol | must've been Baldur's Gate, the first game I played that had access to its Lua engine by the player |
| 10:56.54 | krka | what is LUA though? |
| 10:56.58 | krka | must be something completely new |
| 10:57.01 | [Ammo] | yarr |
| 10:57.06 | [Ammo] | it's the best since sliced bread |
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| 11:15.13 | Industrial | they should have used python |
| 11:15.14 | Industrial | :( |
| 11:15.29 | Industrial | imo |
| 11:15.30 | Industrial | :3 |
| 11:16.07 | Industrial | lua is like, not really very usable outside little bash script/configs/wow |
| 11:16.08 | Industrial | :( |
| 11:19.01 | Legorol | Industrial: i don't understand the logic in that statement |
| 11:19.17 | Legorol | just because Lua is not usable *outside* WoW, why shouldn't it be used inside it? |
| 11:19.38 | Legorol | (and i dispute the (un)usability of Lua outside as well, but that's a separate topic) |
| 11:19.54 | Industrial | oh no, I mean that if it was python I would have gone and learnt python and be able to use it outside those projects :P |
| 11:20.02 | Industrial | like, webapps |
| 11:20.08 | Legorol | i see |
| 11:20.14 | Legorol | you can still learn python as well |
| 11:20.21 | Legorol | you can learn two, you know :) |
| 11:20.38 | Industrial | yes, but I won't be doing much with it because I'm always busy with wow :P |
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| 11:53.56 | darkylow | is name@hotmail.gov and real email adress? i looked it up with whois but didn't get really get an answer |
| 12:01.10 | darkylow | nevermind |
| 12:01.16 | darkylow | i found the answer my self |
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| 12:03.15 | clad | uh hai |
| 12:03.37 | clad | sup |
| 12:04.26 | darkylow | nothing just wanted to say hi |
| 12:04.41 | clad | hehe k |
| 12:12.49 | batrick | Industrial: that's not a very informed thing to say. Lua is very usable outside "simple scripts/configs/games" |
| 12:13.23 | batrick | I wrote batbot in all lua, I believe it would have been much more time consuming in other languages |
| 12:13.27 | batrick | for me |
| 12:14.24 | clad | batrick: are you making the code to batbot available at all? |
| 12:14.38 | batrick | I will maybe when I clean it up some |
| 12:15.01 | batrick | the irc module I wrote is not "feature complete" |
| 12:15.19 | clad | what dependencies did you end up with, and you did it using the module system? |
| 12:15.29 | batrick | just the socket library only |
| 12:15.39 | clad | stayed away from mt? |
| 12:15.44 | batrick | mt? |
| 12:15.49 | clad | multi-threading |
| 12:16.20 | batrick | I thought about it, but I wanted to fully use coroutines |
| 12:16.35 | clad | you don't need to avoid multi-threading to use coroutines |
| 12:16.41 | clad | rings, luatask, luathreads, etc. |
| 12:16.47 | clad | rings probably being the best suited |
| 12:18.08 | clad | my rewrite is just a shell at the moment, it can connect and handles ping/pong and identification to nickserv. I'm about to start adding the command registry, so I can get my luasandbox module back up, among other things |
| 12:18.55 | batrick | I guess that's how you got all those global functions up so easily with no worries about _G :) |
| 12:19.04 | batrick | s/no/little |
| 12:19.05 | clad | what do you mean? |
| 12:19.09 | clad | i don't understand |
| 12:19.34 | batrick | well I mean that you didn't particularly have to worry about things like (getfenv(getfenv)) |
| 12:19.45 | batrick | gaining acces to the true global environment |
| 12:19.47 | clad | of course i did |
| 12:19.53 | clad | but its an _easy_ guard to handle. |
| 12:19.58 | batrick | If you make a new state you decide what goes in? |
| 12:20.04 | clad | i dont ever make a new state |
| 12:20.06 | clad | i dont use anythign liek that |
| 12:20.11 | clad | my bot only relies on luasocket at the moment |
| 12:20.19 | clad | the sandbox is completely lua, and relies on nothing else |
| 12:20.21 | batrick | o I thought you said you were using rings |
| 12:20.27 | clad | no, i said its well suited to something like this :P |
| 12:20.34 | batrick | o ok haha |
| 12:21.19 | batrick | I ended up pretty happy with my sandbox |
| 12:21.37 | clad | mine's just really simple, and works exactly as i need it to |
| 12:21.40 | clad | the simplicity was important |
| 12:21.53 | batrick | i had to redefine some functions like table.concat and string.rep in order to avoid the program hanging in C where I can't rescue it |
| 12:22.42 | clad | why table.concat? |
| 12:23.09 | clad | that shouldn't have been necessary, imo |
| 12:23.09 | batrick | uh |
| 12:23.09 | clad | lua> t = {} for i=1,1e6 do t[i] = i end; return table.concat(t, "-") |
| 12:23.09 | cladbot | clad: sandbox.lua:157: maximum memory (5000 KiB) exceeded |
| 12:23.13 | clad | lua> t = {} for i=1,1e5 do t[i] = i end; return table.concat(t, "-") |
| 12:23.14 | cladbot | clad: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32-33-34-35-36-37-38-39-40-41-42-43-44-45-46-47-48-49-50-51-52-53-54-55-56-57-58-59-60-61-62-63-64-65-66-67-68-69-70-71-72-73-74-75-76-77-78-79-80-81-82-83-84-85-86-87-88-... (result truncated) |
| 12:23.29 | clad | returns instantly |
| 12:23.42 | batrick | lua> x="lkasjdlfjlkajdlkfjljadjjflakdjflkjalkdjflkjalskdjlfkjlasjlkdfjlkajslkdjf" t={} for i=1,1e6 do t[i] = x end return table.concat(t) |
| 12:23.43 | cladbot | batrick: sandbox.lua:157: maximum memory (5000 KiB) exceeded |
| 12:23.52 | batrick | interesting |
| 12:24.12 | batrick | that shouldn't have hit a memory limit clad |
| 12:24.23 | clad | why shouldn't it? |
| 12:24.33 | batrick | because x is only created once |
| 12:24.42 | batrick | and i'm simply inserting 1e6 references to it? |
| 12:24.51 | krka | table.concat creates a huge string |
| 12:24.57 | batrick | right but it should hang |
| 12:25.00 | batrick | not quit |
| 12:25.03 | clad | batrick: 1e6 references is a 16 meg table. |
| 12:25.07 | clad | so.. |
| 12:25.17 | clad | yes, you made more than 5 MiB of garbage, as my sandbox says. |
| 12:25.25 | krka | why should it hang? |
| 12:25.28 | batrick | lua> x="lkasjdlfjlkajdlkfjljadjjflakdjflkjalkdjflkjalskdjlfkjlasjlkdfjlkajslkdjf" t={} for i=1,1e4 do t[i] = x end return table.concat(t) |
| 12:25.29 | cladbot | batrick: lkasjdlfjlkajdlkfjljadjjflakdjflkjalkdjflkjalskdjlfkjlasjlkdfjlkajslkdjflkasjdlfjlkajdlkfjljadjjflakdjflkjalkdjflkjalskdjlfkjlasjlkdfjlkajslkdjflkasjdlfjlkajdlkfjljadjjflakdjflkjalkdjflkjalskdjlfkjlasjlkdfjlkajslkdjflkasjdlfjlkajdlkfjljadjjflakdjflkjalkdj... (result truncated) |
| 12:25.36 | batrick | lua> x="lkasjdlfjlkajdlkfjljadjjflakdjflkjalkdjflkjalskdjlfkjlasjlkdfjlkajslkdjf" t={} for i=1,1e5 do t[i] = x end return table.concat(t) |
| 12:25.37 | cladbot | batrick: sandbox.lua:157: maximum memory (5000 KiB) exceeded |
| 12:25.40 | batrick | o well |
| 12:25.47 | clad | lol |
| 12:25.57 | batrick | my memory limit is 75MB |
| 12:25.59 | batrick | so |
| 12:26.01 | krka | lua > s = "." for i = 1,10 do s=s..s end return s |
| 12:26.04 | krka | lua> s = "." for i = 1,10 do s=s..s end return s |
| 12:26.04 | cladbot | krka: .................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. (result truncated) |
| 12:26.08 | batrick | It would be easy for me :( |
| 12:26.10 | krka | lua> s = "." for i = 1,20 do s=s..s end return s |
| 12:26.10 | cladbot | krka: .................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. (result truncated) |
| 12:26.15 | clad | I see no need why anyone would ever need more than 5000 KiB for a single line IRC based interpreter |
| 12:26.18 | krka | lua> s = "." for i = 1,30 do s=s..s end return s |
| 12:26.18 | cladbot | krka: sandbox.lua:157: maximum memory (5000 KiB) exceeded |
| 12:26.21 | clad | its a reasonable limit |
| 12:26.32 | batrick | ya I guess so |
| 12:26.55 | clad | you can't arbitrarily choose 5 seconds for cpu, and then arbitrarily choose 75 MiB for memory ;-) |
| 12:27.10 | clad | well you can, but it seems silly to me |
| 12:27.41 | batrick | because I'm not running anything intensive enough for me not to on this server clad |
| 12:27.43 | sioraiocht | hi clad |
| 12:27.48 | clad | krka: how would you design a system like an irc bot, that has reloadable modules. Would you have an event dispatch system or some other manner of delving out tasks? |
| 12:27.48 | batrick | I "can" sacrifice that |
| 12:27.52 | clad | sioraiocht: hai |
| 12:27.59 | krka | reloadable modules? |
| 12:28.06 | clad | batrick: but why does anyone need 75 megs of memory for a single line of lua, in irc. |
| 12:28.14 | clad | *shrug* |
| 12:28.20 | batrick | do you make a new environment every time? |
| 12:28.25 | clad | krka: yeah, so i can for example reload the sandbox module without having to kill the entire bot |
| 12:28.31 | clad | batrick: a new global environment, yes. |
| 12:28.39 | batrick | well i didn't want to do that :P |
| 12:28.58 | krka | what is the irc bot implemented in? |
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| 12:29.02 | krka | pure lua or c? |
| 12:29.04 | clad | krka: lua + luasocket |
| 12:29.19 | krka | i guess i'd make a command to reload |
| 12:29.34 | clad | and what would it do :P |
| 12:29.45 | krka | same thing as your on load |
| 12:30.03 | clad | if i handle it at the core level, i don't run into sync issues, which is nice. |
| 12:30.14 | clad | i dont know why doing reload in the core didn't occur to me before :P |
| 12:30.36 | krka | sync issues? |
| 12:30.48 | krka | obviously i'd wait before all current clients are done |
| 12:30.52 | clad | yeah, when you reload a module in an event dispatch system, it needs to register for events in the middle of the iteration |
| 12:30.59 | clad | so you have to guard registerevent() in order to prevent issues with next() |
| 12:31.10 | clad | but this way is much easier, and cleaner |
| 12:31.14 | clad | thanks for the chat! |
| 12:31.18 | krka | or just make a whole new environment, and present that to new tasks |
| 12:31.26 | batrick | clad: would you like to see what I've done? |
| 12:31.29 | clad | sure |
| 12:31.32 | krka | still not sure i understood the problem :) |
| 12:31.42 | clad | krka: not a problem, the chat was enough to make me see what i wasn't before |
| 12:31.43 | batrick | Except for a couple things I'm not proud of, i like how I dispatch messages |
| 12:31.48 | clad | which is why ask most questions! |
| 12:32.04 | batrick | where can i reach you clad? |
| 12:32.12 | batrick | e.g. pm lol |
| 12:32.19 | clad | gmail.com probably the easiest |
| 12:32.21 | clad | or just pm on here |
| 12:32.28 | batrick | o right I have your e-mail duh lol |
| 12:32.35 | batrick | i r smart |
| 12:32.36 | clad | as long as you're not goign to post the whole code in a PM :P |
| 12:32.48 | batrick | no i'll e-mail the irc module to you |
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| 12:36.53 | batrick | clad: sent :) |
| 12:37.01 | clad | cool thanks |
| 12:37.11 | clad | i'll shoot mine back as soon as i finish what im' working on |
| 12:37.19 | batrick | cool thanks :) |
| 12:39.00 | batrick | there are some artifacts (mainly variables) from earlier ideas of how I wanted to do things that I've yet to remove |
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| 12:47.45 | clad | interesting way to go about things |
| 12:47.52 | clad | i'll haev to look more in depth later |
| 12:48.36 | Kaso | http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/16/wow-reads-hard-drive |
| 12:48.57 | clad | batrick: mine's a bit more imperative in places. |
| 12:49.02 | clad | i'll send what i have at the moment |
| 12:49.08 | batrick | ok |
| 12:49.37 | clad | same disclaimers apply :p |
| 12:49.45 | batrick | I wanted to take the tasks and handle tables out of the newhandler function but I couldn't think of a way to do it while keeping the server upvalue accessible |
| 12:49.51 | batrick | haha kay |
| 12:50.13 | clad | i drive the main loop from within the same script |
| 12:50.17 | batrick | I figure people won't be making tons of server connections so it's pretty harmless |
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| 12:50.54 | clad | needs a bit of work still, but its working |
| 12:51.03 | clad | just need to finish the module system so i can get the commands i need working |
| 12:51.06 | batrick | which one yours or mine? LOL |
| 12:51.12 | clad | lol mine |
| 12:51.14 | batrick | I know mine does :D |
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| 12:51.30 | batrick | I handle like 5 tasks out of the 100 or so I could get haha |
| 12:51.42 | batrick | most of which are unimportant though |
| 12:51.47 | clad | what do you mean |
| 12:52.12 | clad | and how does your sandbox hook into the bot, whats the api? |
| 12:52.38 | batrick | I might as well send you the other two lol |
| 12:52.47 | batrick | I'm not sure I understand what you mean by hook into it |
| 12:53.02 | clad | well you provide irc stuff int hat file |
| 12:53.08 | clad | how does the bot handle the --> commands |
| 12:53.58 | batrick | when i get a PRIV msg command, the handle table has a PRIVMSG function that takes it appart(sp?), and then returns some values that will eventually get to the get() function that called it |
| 12:54.03 | batrick | or receive, not sure |
| 12:54.05 | batrick | lol |
| 12:54.08 | clad | hrm okay |
| 12:54.16 | clad | just tough to see right now, what actually happens :P |
| 12:54.16 | batrick | then the coroutine yields to the bot so it can handle it |
| 12:54.52 | batrick | the get/receive functions are very important ^_^ |
| 12:54.57 | clad | yeah seems so |
| 12:55.02 | clad | i'd like to see your usage, for inspiration |
| 12:55.08 | clad | i gotta run for now, but i'll be back in an hour or so |
| 12:55.10 | batrick | coming right up :) |
| 12:55.11 | clad | <3 |
| 12:55.12 | batrick | k |
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| 13:08.55 | Wobin | Can I complain long and loudly about the horrible state of affairs that is the Guildbank api? |
| 13:09.23 | dylanm | Less qq more mrplow |
| 13:10.46 | Wobin | CursorHasItem does not return a value when using the GuildBank |
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| 13:18.06 | batrick | clad's bot is tricksy |
| 13:18.13 | batrick | observe |
| 13:18.55 | batrick | nvm i'm jsut dumb |
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| 14:12.00 | Polarina | Valuation updated! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7493 |
| 14:12.02 | Polarina | :D |
| 14:20.15 | JoshBorke | Cairenn|sleep, clad, dolby-wowi: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6933 in the comments is a link to a 3rd party website that i believe should be removed |
| 14:23.08 | Polarina | clad, Cairenn|sleep, Esamynn|Away, Kaelten, MentalPower|ZZzz, MoonWolf, norgs, Tem, everyone: Who's version is better on performance? Tekkub's or Polarina's? http://www.wowwiki.com/GetSellValue |
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| 14:28.41 | JoshBorke | doesn't matter enough :-P |
| 14:29.45 | Polarina | JoshBorke: Who's version would you prefeer as the only example instead of including both? |
| 14:29.59 | batrick | the one more instructive |
| 14:31.29 | batrick | performance except inside an article discussing it, should not be the focus inside a wiki article |
| 14:31.42 | batrick | it should be clarity and completeness about what you're talking about |
| 14:31.53 | batrick | yours is both, but you might want to include more comments |
| 14:32.16 | Polarina | batrick: Exactly. |
| 14:32.28 | JoshBorke | why not just leave them both? |
| 14:32.41 | JoshBorke | give preference to your's by moving it before tek's |
| 14:32.49 | batrick | clearly someone is crying in the discussion forum? |
| 14:33.48 | Polarina | batrick: That's Tekkub... |
| 14:34.08 | batrick | Polarina: the select function is really unnecessary and will only cause someone to go searching for it |
| 14:34.33 | batrick | if there were 5 variables being skipped, i'd approve, but only 1 :P |
| 14:34.38 | Polarina | batrick: It's a replacement for local _, itemid = GetItemInfo(blabla) |
| 14:34.42 | batrick | I see that |
| 14:35.36 | batrick | odd variable names confuse people though as well, which is why you should just chane "_" to whatever the function returns but don't use it |
| 14:35.54 | batrick | change* |
| 14:36.29 | Polarina | batrick: I could make the function call to 'select' in the example be a direct link to http://www.wowwiki.com/API_select |
| 14:36.53 | batrick | not inside a code snippet |
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| 14:37.14 | batrick | my point is you are arguing that you are trying to help the user and yet you add some extraneous and unnecessary function call |
| 14:37.19 | Polarina | No, the HTML tag <a /> is what I'm talking about. |
| 14:37.54 | Polarina | batrick: I'm not arguing, I'm discussing. :) |
| 14:38.07 | batrick | in the context of a point, you are arguing |
| 14:38.08 | batrick | :P |
| 14:38.32 | Polarina | batrick: I'm discussing and arguing then. :) |
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| 14:39.22 | Polarina | I could add some colours (colour syntaxing) to the example.. |
| 14:39.27 | batrick | no |
| 14:39.34 | Polarina | Why? |
| 14:39.36 | batrick | don't mess with code snippets, coloring them confuses |
| 14:39.52 | batrick | just leave it |
| 14:39.59 | Polarina | Colour syntaxing is one of the most popular features of every IDE... |
| 14:40.09 | batrick | You gotta understand most of the people who would even use your example have no idea how to use Lua |
| 14:40.21 | batrick | and they only want to understand in the most rudimentary way |
| 14:40.47 | Polarina | I'll post the coloured example in a sandbox, ok? :) |
| 14:40.51 | batrick | coloring select will only make them pay attention to it more, and less to the flow of the program |
| 14:41.00 | batrick | I already know I won't like it :P |
| 14:41.22 | Polarina | batrick: Just want to check out how it would look like. :P |
| 14:42.05 | batrick | wow this page is incredible now that i really look at it |
| 14:42.20 | batrick | you guys are trying to keep a ~10 line function usable across multiple addons? |
| 14:42.24 | batrick | doesn't that seem silly? |
| 14:42.53 | Polarina | batrick: If you understood its purpose, it wouldn't be silly. |
| 14:43.26 | batrick | I guess I don't; I am tired |
| 14:43.33 | Polarina | Hehe... |
| 14:45.42 | Lopeppeppy | New thought provoking topic - WoW and the improved dual-core Windows support. If I install WoW on a separate drive, will it still recognize that I run dual core and take advantage of my resources? (brand new system, just a random question since I'm not familiar enough with dual core or what WoW did to optimize use of them) |
| 14:46.02 | batrick | yes |
| 14:46.29 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent, because I'm going to slave my slave drive in the new system as well, and didn't want to miss out on all of the dual core yummy I could explore. |
| 14:46.31 | batrick | It finds these things out by system calls (to the OS) not by looking at the hard drive :P |
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| 14:48.56 | TS|Skrom | morning, how's 2.3 working out? |
| 14:49.24 | batrick | people... ARE... DYING |
| 14:49.26 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, TS|Skrom. I'm pretty happy with 2.3 overall. |
| 14:49.39 | batrick | (jurassic park reference) |
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| 14:50.09 | TS|Skrom | I've actually been playing everquest for the last couple weeks XD |
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| 14:51.19 | Daede | yo |
| 14:51.35 | Daede | if I update my interface, does it go live immediately, or does it queue for approval? |
| 14:51.51 | Lopeppeppy | Update where/how? |
| 14:52.05 | Daede | as in upload a new zip to wowi |
| 14:52.15 | batrick | queue approval |
| 14:52.21 | Daede | cool :) |
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| 15:00.27 | Daede | latest DaedeUI uploaded and posted on WoWI http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7826-DaedeUI.html |
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| 15:11.06 | Ktron | Anyone on running WoW under linux? |
| 15:11.50 | Polarina | Ktron: I do. |
| 15:12.09 | sioraiocht | clad: you there? |
| 15:12.21 | Ktron | Polarina, what distro? |
| 15:12.45 | Polarina | Ktron: They are all basically the same, tell us your problem. |
| 15:14.25 | Ktron | Polarina, no problem, just musing, probably going to try to get it up and running on this system and just figured seeing if the experienced had any wisdom wouldn't hurt |
| 15:15.02 | Polarina | Ktron: I have tried WoW on Debian and Gentoo, both working great. |
| 15:16.08 | Ktron | Polarina, hopefully firing it up under ubuntu gutsy this morning, we'll find out... Did you install or copy an installation from windows? |
| 15:16.30 | Polarina | Ktron: I have tried both, on both distros. All working fine. :) |
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| 15:20.35 | Polarina | Ktron: You could check the test results and see what distors are reported to work with WoW. |
| 15:20.57 | batrick | wow works fine with ubuntu |
| 15:21.07 | batrick | I don't use it myself, yet, but I know plenty of people that do |
| 15:21.08 | Ktron | Polarina, ubuntu should be fine... I just need to trace down why direct rendering is off |
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| 15:21.30 | Ktron | or more likely, I'll ignore it and find out if I really need to worry about that :) |
| 15:21.42 | Polarina | Ktron: You really need to worry about that. |
| 15:22.16 | Polarina | Ktron: Your computer would hardly handle the load of rendering three rotating gears with direct rendering off. |
| 15:22.21 | Polarina | Ktron: $ glxgears |
| 15:22.53 | batrick | wow you broke him |
| 15:22.57 | batrick | gj Polarina ! |
| 15:23.09 | Polarina | batrick: I told him his computer would hardly handle the load. :| |
| 15:23.22 | batrick | lol hehe |
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| 15:23.28 | Polarina | batrick: I guess that statement was true after all.. |
| 15:23.33 | Ktron | lol |
| 15:23.37 | Ktron | hm |
| 15:23.52 | Ktron | I'm running compiz-fusion fluidly, and it used to work anyway |
| 15:24.13 | Ktron | and glxgears only screwed me up when I maximized but, yeah, I guess I better solve that |
| 15:25.13 | Polarina | Ktron: For the conversation you missed out, you can read it here: http://rafb.net/p/UoOnXx43.html |
| 15:26.09 | Ktron | lol |
| 15:26.10 | Ktron | nice |
| 15:26.32 | krka | i have an ati card at work, running gutsy, and i get: |
| 15:26.33 | krka | direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set) |
| 15:26.42 | krka | compiz fusion still works though |
| 15:26.54 | Ktron | !glxinfo|grep rendering |
| 15:27.03 | Ktron | Oh, I guess I don't have that installed |
| 15:27.08 | Ktron | hm |
| 15:27.19 | Ktron | I think it might be because of something else |
| 15:27.30 | Ktron | I think I'm running multiple displays for whatever reason |
| 15:27.42 | Polarina | 60:-- Change appearance if this is a GM build or not |
| 15:27.42 | Polarina | 61:if ( CopyToClipboard ) then |
| 15:27.46 | Polarina | ^^ lol |
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| 15:32.59 | Ktron | So I guess its time to figure out why I have 2 X displays on this machine when I only want one |
| 15:34.17 | Bendable | Hello? Is this a good place to ask an Auctioneer question? |
| 15:34.36 | Shirik | depends on what the question is |
| 15:34.43 | Bendable | Awesome |
| 15:34.45 | Lopeppeppy | Ask away, we'll see if someone knows an answer that helps. |
| 15:36.15 | dylanm | There is a room for Auctioneer and Gatherer and that stuff here, which is #norganna |
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| 15:36.41 | Ktron | whee, one display |
| 15:36.46 | Bendable | I had been using Auctioneer 4.0.2. After the patch, I removed it (deleted the directories) and installed the latest AuctioneerAdvanced (after reading that it works with 2.3). Since, I have found that the buyout is not automatically filled in for me when I create auctions. I was wondering if there is an option somewhere that I need to turn on for that. |
| 15:37.29 | Shirik | I don't know anything about it, however I would propose that it didn't carry over your old data |
| 15:37.46 | Ktron | Shirik, yeah, that's my guess |
| 15:37.58 | Bendable | So what I need is more data? |
| 15:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | It's possible. The #norganna room might have more detailed feedback though. |
| 15:39.03 | Bendable | K, thanks. I'll give them a try too. |
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| 15:48.29 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly! *big hugs* |
| 15:48.50 | |Jelly| | How are you this morning? |
| 15:49.10 | Lopeppeppy | I'm plotting doom for Lego Computer 2.0 |
| 15:50.10 | |Jelly| | eh? |
| 15:50.51 | Lopeppeppy | I got my new computer parts in, and am halfway through building my new paint-by-number computer. |
| 15:51.00 | |Jelly| | Ahhhh. |
| 15:51.08 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.51 | Lopeppeppy | Don't be yet, |Jelly|.... it doesn't work yet! |
| 15:56.21 | art3mis | elvis was a hero to most, elvis was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me straight out rascist the sucker was simple and plain muthafsck you mean john wayne, |
| 15:56.45 | |Jelly| | I'll take random shit for 1000, Alex! |
| 15:57.52 | art3mis | its public enemy |
| 15:58.04 | |Jelly| | It's still random. :\ |
| 15:58.07 | Shirik | =( |
| 15:58.11 | Shirik | I didn't get a hug from |Jelly| |
| 15:58.14 | art3mis | only if you can't hear my playlist ;) |
| 15:58.22 | |Jelly| | kek |
| 15:58.31 | Shirik | it's too late now! |
| 15:58.37 | |Jelly| | FINE THEN! |
| 15:59.53 | art3mis | you mean straight out piracy? yes you'd make a wonderful dread pirate roberts |
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| 16:03.36 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cogwheel. |
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| 16:11.13 | art3mis | i cant believe just how much i dislike safari |
| 16:11.23 | art3mis | particularly the win32 version |
| 16:11.37 | deltron | TS|Skrom: ping |
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| 16:13.25 | TS|Skrom | pong |
| 16:13.29 | TS|Skrom | sup muchacho |
| 16:13.42 | Valaron|Work | Howdy |
| 16:13.58 | deltron | game on? |
| 16:14.03 | TS|Skrom | game is on |
| 16:14.06 | deltron | rawk on |
| 16:14.23 | TS|Skrom | *GemeSimmonsTongue* Yeahhhhh! |
| 16:14.25 | Shirik | "Because of the redefeinition of the meter in 1983, the speed of light is now a /defined/ quantity with an /exact/ value of c=2.99792458x10^8 m/s" <-- Anyone know if that means they intentionally changed a meter based on the speed of light? |
| 16:17.19 | cog|work | Shirik: yes |
| 16:17.44 | Cide | yup |
| 16:17.44 | TS|Skrom | deltron I'm leaving in 1.75 hours to go to a job interview with Fed Reserve Bank ^^ |
| 16:17.47 | cog|work | a meter is defined as 1/299792458 of a light second |
| 16:17.53 | Shirik | huh |
| 16:18.08 | Cide | speed of light in vacuum* :P |
| 16:18.13 | Shirik | couldn't they pick a nicer number like 3x10^8? |
| 16:18.17 | matt1s | Is it possible to change what a slot on your actionbar points to during combat? |
| 16:18.23 | cog|work | Shirik: no, 'cause that would change it too much |
| 16:18.27 | Cide | Shirik: well, they wanted to keep it as close as possible to the old definition |
| 16:18.33 | Shirik | Cide: Yeah well they had said that in an earlier paragraph so it was implied :) |
| 16:18.48 | Cide | ah |
| 16:19.08 | art3mis | we could express it in cubits ;) |
| 16:19.41 | Shirik | no. |
| 16:19.46 | Shirik | anyway, test time take care |
| 16:23.49 | clad|away | Polarina: why does it matter.. you're allowed to implement your own version of functions |
| 16:23.55 | clad|away | not sure why we need competing versions on the wiki O.o |
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| 16:24.53 | Polarina | clad|away: Of course I can use my own version. Just wanted to help the newcommers to understand that example snippet. |
| 16:25.08 | clad|away | actually you asked half the channel whose was more "efficient" |
| 16:25.12 | clad|away | which annoyed me |
| 16:25.13 | clad|away | btu that's all |
| 16:25.49 | clad|away | after you wrote a mod to be "zomg more efficient" than someone elses |
| 16:25.56 | clad|away | and still haven't stopped comparing the relative effieincy |
| 16:26.04 | clad|away | moral of the story, not everything is a competition :P |
| 16:26.06 | clad|away | and i'm off |
| 16:26.09 | deltron | TS|Skrom: good luck! |
| 16:26.13 | TS|Skrom | Thanks |
| 16:26.24 | TS|Skrom | it's a web dev position ^^ |
| 16:26.28 | TS|Skrom | so I'm kinda stoked |
| 16:26.48 | deltron | that's pretty sweet |
| 16:29.23 | Lopeppeppy | Good luck, TS|Skrom. Seems like it's the season for job interviews, I have my fingers crossed for 3 different people today! |
| 16:29.48 | zenzelezz | that's a lot of lies |
| 16:30.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm? |
| 16:30.48 | |Jelly| | I got my job yesterday! |
| 16:30.55 | zenzelezz | twisting words, it's what I do |
| 16:31.00 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah, Jelly! |
| 16:31.03 | zenzelezz | you know crossed fingers have a dual meaning? |
| 16:31.23 | dylanm | omg he's like an onion |
| 16:31.38 | |Jelly| | Seems like a good week for us WoWI..ers.. |
| 16:32.26 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure there are more than just two meanings, zenzelezz. Read as deeply as you like, we'll make more. |
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| 16:42.29 | art3mis | The House of Representatives has passed the Restore Act, a surveillance reform bill that does not grant the telecom companies retroactive immunity for complicity in the NSA surveillance program. |
| 16:42.40 | art3mis | nice |
| 16:43.24 | art3mis | where ya working now jelly? |
| 16:43.41 | |Jelly| | waiting tables until I start culinary school |
| 16:44.06 | Lopeppeppy | Hawt, darlin', just hawt. *hug* |
| 16:44.49 | |Jelly| | :) |
| 16:45.07 | |Jelly| | Better than a helper in a welding shop. :P |
| 16:45.46 | Lopeppeppy | Um... I think I'd find that ironically fun, honestly. |
| 16:46.20 | |Jelly| | Well, almost died on Tuesday. It wasn't fun either. :P |
| 16:46.27 | Lopeppeppy | "Nope, that dress doesn't make your ass look any bigger than it already does." |
| 16:46.33 | Lopeppeppy | Why did you almost-died? |
| 16:46.58 | |Jelly| | chain broke. 11 ton steel beam came crashing down. I happened to be the person helping to level it. |
| 16:47.27 | matt1s | Is it possible to change the contents of a bar during combat? |
| 16:47.41 | Lopeppeppy | Jeebus, Jelly, don't *do* things like that. *shiver* |
| 16:47.44 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: and Shirik has been working a lot on some conspiracy... coincidence? |
| 16:47.55 | |Jelly| | Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 16:48.53 | art3mis | what!? |
| 16:49.05 | art3mis | you gave up a job playing with arc welders and fire? |
| 16:49.09 | art3mis | to wait tables? |
| 16:49.28 | |Jelly| | ...yeah |
| 16:49.40 | art3mis | are you growing boobies now too? |
| 16:49.42 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:50.30 | art3mis | matt1s: i think flexbar2 does it through a secure... not entirely sure though |
| 16:50.54 | art3mis | almost dying at work is fun ;) |
| 16:51.04 | zenzelezz | anyone else having trouble setting their character's title to "None"? It seems like I keep getting the Naaru title appended every time I zone or something |
| 16:51.30 | matt1s | art3mis: I tried looking at FB, but I didn't see anything about it. Is FB2 == FB ? |
| 16:52.23 | Lopeppeppy | Boobies are for Peppy, |Jelly| is for toast. |
| 16:52.38 | matt1s | FB's not been developed since 06 though.. hm |
| 16:52.50 | art3mis | fb2 |
| 16:53.07 | art3mis | im not sure how cnc does it though i just know that he mentioned it was possible |
| 16:53.21 | art3mis | unless that was the day i was eatting paste and imagined it |
| 16:53.34 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|... I just realized that I misread "welding" as "wedding"... thusly I was being random on accident. Ooops. |
| 16:53.56 | matt1s | art3mis: :-) it would solve all my problems, but I talked with cnc the other day and he said what I was asking was impossible |
| 16:54.13 | art3mis | are you trying to do automated full bar swap? |
| 16:54.23 | zenzelezz | <Lopeppeppy> Boobies are for Peppy <--- don't say things like that on IRC, makes the sad ones among us think girl-girl |
| 16:54.26 | |Jelly| | Peppy: lol |
| 16:55.01 | matt1s | art3mis: I was trying to change the keybindings between bars, but I'm now trying to change the content of the bar instead so that I don't have to change the keybindings (since that's evidently impossible now) |
| 16:55.24 | art3mis | well you could do state/conditional changes |
| 16:55.31 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, you can think whatever you like. *laugh* Boobies are for girls, males just don't appreciate them enough. |
| 16:55.32 | matt1s | yeah, but it doesn't cut it for me |
| 16:55.41 | art3mis | like shape/combat/ooc |
| 16:55.46 | Nom- | Anyone know if Jan'alai has an enrage when you kill all his adds ? |
| 16:55.53 | art3mis | not to mention the 6 rows of alt toggles |
| 16:55.57 | art3mis | and keycombo |
| 16:56.09 | art3mis | mattis did you ever play godwares? |
| 16:56.12 | art3mis | godwars? |
| 16:56.21 | matt1s | well yes that will do for the amount of keys I need, but I don't like the setup very much |
| 16:56.24 | matt1s | godwars? |
| 16:56.26 | matt1s | nope |
| 16:56.43 | art3mis | fb2 is prolly yer best shot for what you wanna accomlpish |
| 16:56.46 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: that's an interesting thing to say; I thought most males appreciated them too much |
| 16:56.47 | matt1s | so if I hit i.e. E bar #1 would still be bar #1, but its contents would shift so that it's the same as bar #2 |
| 16:56.51 | art3mis | fb2 is seperate from the blizzard ones |
| 16:56.51 | matt1s | whops |
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| 16:57.00 | cog|work | boobies are for babies imo |
| 16:57.07 | matt1s | Codayus: I'm trying to do something that's not possible :-) I want three bars with three pages. I want to change all three pages on a keypress, i.e. Q or E. Then I want to select a bar with shift+[number] and then execute what is in a slot in that bar with i.e. [1]. |
| 16:57.13 | matt1s | that's from another channel what I'm trying to do |
| 16:57.23 | art3mis | matt1s: technically it would "shift bar one and bar two" |
| 16:57.30 | TS|Skrom | cog|work you shut your filthy stinking mouth |
| 16:58.24 | cog|work | eh... i'm just saying if the ladies didn't cover up they wouldn't be such a big deal |
| 16:58.40 | art3mis | matt1s: you "might be able to do it with the eepanels2 scripting as well |
| 16:58.59 | art3mis | if you can get it to trigger on keypress to use a diff profile/thus layout |
| 16:59.31 | cog|work | though there are some who believe men are hardwired to be attracted to cleavage and human brests developed the way they did after we started walking upright since the rear wasn't as... up front as when you're crawling around on all fours |
| 16:59.36 | matt1s | art3mis: I was thinking, that instead of changing the keybindings to another bar, I just changed the contents of the bar instead, so that I wouldn't have to change the keybinding |
| 17:00.06 | matt1s | art3mis: if that's possible, I'll start researching and see if I can write it myself. I just got Eclipse with LuaEclipse plugin up and running |
| 17:00.41 | matt1s | thanks for your help, I'll have to run but I'll be back in half an hour :-) |
| 17:00.47 | art3mis | ask clad when he comes back |
| 17:00.58 | art3mis | he'd know for sure |
| 17:04.11 | zenzelezz | hm, someone's saying Kael'thas's shield is dispellable with Arcane Shot o_O |
| 17:05.12 | Esamynn|Work | Polarina: I agree, your version of GetSellValue is far more readable |
| 17:05.24 | Polarina | Esamynn|Work: Thank you. |
| 17:08.57 | art3mis | zen yeah arcane shot is a touch bugged atm |
| 17:09.03 | art3mis | so it prolly is |
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| 17:24.33 | zenzelezz | I hope they fix the title issue soon... I hate having this thing clouding my name |
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| 17:31.31 | mikma | anyone knows where can i find a simple slashhandler that understands 2 values? like /slash 1 2 |
| 17:33.30 | cog|work | >>> strsplit(" ", "1 2", 2) |
| 17:33.31 | Cide | cog|work: "1", "2" |
| 17:33.49 | cog|work | >>> strsplit(" ", "first second - also second", 2) |
| 17:33.50 | Cide | cog|work: "first", "second - also second" |
| 17:33.51 | mikma | let's try taht oen |
| 17:34.04 | mikma | err, that one |
| 17:34.15 | cog|work | it's teh same i just gave a more telling example string :P |
| 17:34.47 | cog|work | the 2 as the last parameter limits it to 2 results |
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| 17:35.47 | mikma | oh well, now i need to figure out how to actually use that to get the info from slash |
| 17:36.58 | cog|work | mikma: you do that to the message |
| 17:37.11 | mikma | local a,b = strsplit(" ", value, 2) |
| 17:37.18 | mikma | this seems to do the job nicely |
| 17:43.32 | Polarina | I'm supprised at how many bugs exist within Sell Value addons, including mine... |
| 17:45.14 | Polarina | Esamynn|Work: They did, and they did it more with 2.3. They call it discounts. |
| 17:45.37 | Esamynn|Work | those are just buy values, and that's predictable :P |
| 17:46.18 | Polarina | Esamynn|Work: But they modified the sell value of 110 items with 2.3. |
| 17:46.53 | dreamss | Esamynn|Work, when wow first opened i tought there was |
| 17:46.54 | Esamynn|Work | QQ |
| 17:46.55 | dreamss | hehe |
| 17:47.07 | dreamss | i was running to diff vendors checking prices |
| 17:47.11 | Esamynn|Work | hehe |
| 17:47.27 | Polarina | Meat sells more to meat vendors! |
| 17:47.38 | dreamss | in iro it was like that |
| 17:47.51 | dreamss | and it was the first game i played : |
| 17:47.54 | dreamss | mmo |
| 17:48.15 | Esamynn|Work | you know, you have to wonder how the bread lady in IF hasn't gone bankrupt yet... |
| 17:48.40 | Polarina | I wonder why the duelings haven't killed her. :| |
| 17:49.01 | dreamss | she deals coke on the side |
| 17:49.11 | Lopeppeppy | She's an agile little thing for being a drug fiend. |
| 17:49.32 | Industrial | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2237359/FrameXML/MovieRecordingProgress.xml |
| 17:49.37 | Industrial | you can record movies? |
| 17:49.42 | dreamss | yeah |
| 17:49.44 | Esamynn|Work | on the mac |
| 17:49.51 | Esamynn|Work | since 2.2 |
| 17:49.53 | Industrial | only on the mac? |
| 17:49.58 | Esamynn|Work | yes |
| 17:50.00 | Industrial | pfff |
| 17:50.23 | Esamynn|Work | just like only the mac offers built in png compression for screenshots :( |
| 17:50.35 | Industrial | I have to get crappy software that adds trademarks if you dont crack it |
| 17:50.42 | Industrial | and cuts my fps in half too, btw. |
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| 17:51.09 | dreamss | i like to record movies with dd one day :P |
| 17:51.34 | Polarina | If we were allowed to modify the in-game models, I would right away reduce the amount of polygons of every TBC models to reduce lag! |
| 17:51.44 | dreamss | heh |
| 17:51.46 | Industrial | btw where do I find the colors for moeny classes green yellow red etc that blizzard uses? |
| 17:52.07 | Industrial | Polarina: yeah like in half life 1 :P |
| 17:52.40 | Esamynn|Work | Polarina: or you could get a better computer 8) |
| 17:52.43 | Industrial | cant find those colors :\ |
| 17:52.50 | dreamss | ill have my tauren look like a goblin permately |
| 17:52.53 | Esamynn|Work | Polarina: that's the solution I'm planning on implementing 8) |
| 17:52.55 | dreamss | if we could edit textures |
| 17:53.08 | Polarina | Esamynn|Work: I'm afraid it is my power supply, the graphic card is underpowered I think. Never checked for sure though. |
| 17:53.12 | Industrial | dreamss: actually I know that is possible (or used to be) |
| 17:53.25 | dreamss | hehe yeah we had an argument in here due that |
| 17:53.31 | Industrial | there were mdos that changed the sparkles of looting to a battle standard thing so you could loot all bodies |
| 17:53.33 | Esamynn|Work | Polarina: I won't tell you about the system I'm planning, you'd start drooling :P |
| 17:53.38 | Industrial | mods* |
| 17:53.51 | Thunder_Child | "According to this blue post, it seems that the fire elementals in Skald (north of Blade's Edge Mountains) are bugged and instantly respawn. I checked it this morning and it's still working so I guess it could be a good time to farm primal fires." |
| 17:54.02 | Polarina | Esamynn|Work: You work for Blizzard or Microsoft developing DirectX? |
| 17:54.03 | dreamss | yeah they are |
| 17:54.11 | dreamss | bug been out for a few days |
| 17:54.54 | dreamss | every patch i like too see were did the coders messed up the worse : |
| 17:55.17 | Esamynn|Work | Polarina: nope |
| 17:55.19 | Industrial | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2237359/FrameXML/TicTacToeFrame.xml |
| 17:55.23 | Industrial | why do i notice these only now.. |
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| 17:55.47 | Esamynn|Work | Polarina: i'm just gamer, who finally got a job that pays well and is tired of load lag |
| 17:55.47 | Polarina | Industrial: /run TicTacToeFrame:Show() |
| 17:55.55 | Polarina | Esamynn|Work: :D |
| 17:56.49 | clad|gym | arhrm? |
| 17:56.56 | clad|gym | art3mis: hrm? |
| 17:58.03 | Esamynn|Work | Polarina: all I'll say is that I'm considering using http://www.coolitsystems.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=160 as the case for my new system ;) |
| 17:58.52 | Polarina | Esamynn|Work: o.O - I though you were talking about some game physics engine or something... |
| 17:59.36 | Polarina | :D |
| 18:00.17 | cladhaire | Esamynn|Work: buy for me kpls. |
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| 18:00.48 | Esamynn|Work | cladhaire: :P |
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| 18:01.35 | Polarina | Everyone check out http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9429 - It's a wonderful site with WoW resources!! |
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| 18:03.41 | kd3 | wow, that was quick. I checked yesterday and there was only one test |
| 18:03.50 | Polarina | kd3: :) |
| 18:03.57 | Polarina | Cairenn: Welcome to the awake world. |
| 18:04.08 | Cairenn | hi |
| 18:04.42 | Cairenn | not sure I quite qualify as awake yet, but at least I'm vertical now instead of horizontal ;-) |
| 18:05.09 | Polarina | Cairenn: Good to hear. |
| 18:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, sad to hear. ;) |
| 18:05.35 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: *weg* |
| 18:05.58 | TS|Skrom | later all, interview ime |
| 18:06.10 | Cairenn | good luck! |
| 18:07.37 | |Jelly| | Good morning. :) |
| 18:10.44 | matt1s | cladhaire: do you know if it's possible to change the contents of an action bar during combat? |
| 18:10.55 | cladhaire | what do you mean by change |
| 18:10.57 | Esamynn|Work | the user can |
| 18:10.58 | cladhaire | drag and drop |
| 18:11.01 | cladhaire | or attribtues? |
| 18:11.02 | Esamynn|Work | an addon cannot |
| 18:11.06 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 18:11.08 | matt1s | I want to do it programatically |
| 18:11.11 | cladhaire | nope |
| 18:11.12 | cladhaire | by design |
| 18:11.14 | Esamynn|Work | tough luck |
| 18:11.24 | matt1s | hm I guess that avenue's not going to work either then |
| 18:12.45 | matt1s | I want to have three bars with three pages and be able to select bar #1 with shift+1, bar #2 with shift+2. When a bar is selected I want to select slot #2 of that bar with '2'. I'm not sure what this is called, someone said meta-paging somewhere |
| 18:13.17 | matt1s | if I hit i.e. E or Q all bars will change pages to i.e. page 1 or 2 |
| 18:13.18 | Esamynn|Work | oh |
| 18:13.20 | Esamynn|Work | wait |
| 18:13.37 | Esamynn|Work | you CAN use the header system to simulate the functions of the default hot bar with addon hot bars |
| 18:13.51 | cladhaire | yeah that's not what you asked :P |
| 18:13.53 | cladhaire | and that's not programatic |
| 18:13.57 | cladhaire | its pre-programmed actions |
| 18:14.00 | cladhaire | which are allowed. |
| 18:14.51 | matt1s | yes well yeah, what I want there was not possible from what someone said. So what I was thinking was that instead of changing the keybindings (since when I hit SHIFT+2 the bindings for 1, 2, 3 etc will apply to bar #2 instead of bar #1) I'd just change the content of the bar instead, thus not change the keybinding |
| 18:15.32 | cladhaire | you should look at state heads |
| 18:15.36 | cladhaire | cogsbar for example |
| 18:15.47 | Thunder_Child | state heads.....like bush? |
| 18:16.02 | matt1s | I have, I believe. And they dictate that what I want to do is not possible |
| 18:16.22 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 18:16.22 | purl | runs at Thunder_Child with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 18:16.22 | matt1s | so I was trying to find a way to go around it with changing the content instead of the bindings |
| 18:17.23 | cladhaire | you're thinking about it the wrong way |
| 18:17.27 | Thunder_Child | ok, so bush was a bad example....Elizabeth II? |
| 18:17.32 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 18:17.32 | purl | decapitates Thunder_Child conan the destroyer style |
| 18:17.39 | cladhaire | i can almost guarantee that. |
| 18:17.42 | Thunder_Child | hmm..guess not |
| 18:17.42 | matt1s | sorry if I'm not understanding, I've been told this is not possible by multiple people, but I'm trying to convince myself it is :P |
| 18:17.46 | cladhaire | multi-paging should absolutely be possible using state headers |
| 18:18.01 | cladhaire | you're asking to have a bar of actions |
| 18:18.06 | cladhaire | and they are always bound to 1-12 |
| 18:18.07 | cladhaire | or whatever |
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| 18:18.15 | cladhaire | and when you shift-1, shift-2 it changes what actions are on the bar |
| 18:18.17 | cladhaire | right?> |
| 18:18.18 | Esamynn|Work | matt1s: let me confirm, you're trying to duplicate the default UI hot bar with your own addon built hotbar, correct? |
| 18:18.27 | matt1s | no not correct |
| 18:18.39 | Esamynn|Work | what are you trying to do then? |
| 18:19.18 | cladhaire | don't ask us how to implement something, tell us what you want to do :P |
| 18:19.31 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i eould have to agree with cladhaire, thats what i got out of it as well |
| 18:19.33 | matt1s | I have three bars with three pages each, nine pages total. I want to select one bar with shift+1. Select bar two with shift+2. When I hit shift+2 I can select slot 2 of bar 2 with '2'. If I hit shift+1 I can select slot 2 of bar 1 still with '2'. If I hit E or Q, all pages on all three bars change |
| 18:19.34 | Thunder_Child | would* |
| 18:20.22 | cladhaire | why do you need three bars with three pages each? |
| 18:20.28 | Thunder_Child | why have 3 bars...couldnt you do that with one? |
| 18:20.47 | matt1s | because it's very effective when I want to use keyboard for everything |
| 18:21.09 | cladhaire | "its very effective" |
| 18:21.14 | cladhaire | what does that _mean_ |
| 18:21.16 | Cairenn | as dolby-wowi makes all the geeks really happy - |
| 18:21.21 | Cairenn | (1:18:31 PM) dolby-wowi: btw will be switching ad code today around 1pm |
| 18:21.21 | Cairenn | (1:18:40 PM) Cairenn: okay |
| 18:21.21 | Cairenn | (1:18:56 PM) dolby-wowi: going with porn ads |
| 18:21.21 | Cairenn | (1:19:01 PM) Cairenn: alright! |
| 18:21.35 | cladhaire | how many visual bars you have on screen has nothing to do with your effectiveness |
| 18:21.56 | cladhaire | either way |
| 18:21.58 | cladhaire | enough of that |
| 18:22.02 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, seems unnecessarily complex |
| 18:22.05 | matt1s | cladhaire: because I can reference 45 slots with 8 buttons and one slot is maximum three keypresses away |
| 18:22.17 | cladhaire | and you don't need that many buttons to do that |
| 18:22.18 | Polarina | Cairenn: Please, stop him! |
| 18:22.19 | cladhaire | funny that! |
| 18:22.31 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 18:22.42 | cladhaire | you want three bars, that you can select with shift-1, shift-2, and shift-3 and whichever active bar you have, can be adressed with 1-12, or whatever. In addition, you want E and Q to page the bars. |
| 18:22.47 | cladhaire | this should still all be possible using state headers |
| 18:22.52 | Thunder_Child | Polarina, not as bad as you might think |
| 18:23.07 | Cairenn | lol, not really guys, it was a joke |
| 18:23.20 | Polarina | Cairenn: On the other hand, the porn ads would provide a huge amount in click increase... |
| 18:23.26 | matt1s | cladhaire: that's all I wanted to hear! Because then I can invest the effort of learning Lua and try to implement it, if no one has done it yet |
| 18:23.40 | Cairenn | apparently I'm still very tired, since I'm the only one that found that highly amusing |
| 18:23.46 | cladhaire | see if you can do it with flexbar |
| 18:23.53 | cladhaire | but it should be possible |
| 18:24.07 | Polarina | Cairenn: More clicks = more income.. |
| 18:24.33 | matt1s | cladhaire: I have tried with FB2 and Trinity. How do I do this, since what I'm basically doing is changing keybindings between the bars, right? And I was of the impression changing a keybinding during combat, programatically, was not allowed? |
| 18:24.37 | Esamynn|Work | Cairenn: no, you weren't the only one who laught :) |
| 18:24.40 | Esamynn|Work | laughed* |
| 18:24.49 | cladhaire | matt1s: stop thinking like that, that's your problem |
| 18:24.52 | cladhaire | you can't change the keybindings |
| 18:25.06 | Cairenn | Polarina: funny, that's what I said too: |
| 18:25.06 | Cairenn | (1:19:12 PM) Cairenn: maybe we'll finally get some revenue! |
| 18:25.06 | Cairenn | (1:19:19 PM) dolby-wowi: hehe |
| 18:25.08 | cladhaire | you can have a series of states on a main state header that indicate which bar is the current active bar, and what actions are currently bound to it. |
| 18:25.14 | Esamynn|Work | matt1s: YOU can't change the key bindings, the STATE HEADER can change the bindings for you :) |
| 18:25.20 | Polarina | Cairenn: :P |
| 18:25.27 | cladhaire | don't try and implement it before you know how to, that's the death of programming. |
| 18:25.45 | matt1s | I guess I really should read up on state headers |
| 18:25.52 | cladhaire | yes, you should |
| 18:26.02 | cladhaire | you can get the effect of what you described, just now how you proposed it. |
| 18:26.03 | matt1s | all right, but then there's a light in my gimped warrior tunnel |
| 18:27.06 | matt1s | in a sentence, what is it I'm *really* trying to do, with the state headers? Just so I know what to ask if / when I have to explain it all over again when I'm stuck |
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| 18:29.59 | Polarina | Interesting.. -> http://www.instructables.com/id/Increase-your-project_s-popularity-score./ |
| 18:31.23 | cladhaire | matt1s: you're making lots of states |
| 18:31.28 | cladhaire | and shifting between them with bindings. |
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| 18:33.15 | matt1s | I can make my own state? |
| 18:33.15 | Polarina | Hello Iriel. |
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| 18:33.42 | Cairenn | hey Iriel :) *hug* |
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| 18:35.08 | zenzelezz | "Did I mention he speaks english? Like actual english? You know, the language, for communication. Like, when 1 person asks something to someone else and it doesn't take aeons to decipher the message? BoF on tman = Immediately? English?" <-- can you tell we had some... language trouble with a previous applicant for this spot? |
| 18:35.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 18:35.43 | sag_ich_nicht | just go |
| 18:35.49 | sag_ich_nicht | "ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?" |
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| 18:37.02 | Industrial | question about locks |
| 18:37.38 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: Vinsamlegast ekki rita texta à hástöfum. |
| 18:38.03 | dreamss | zenz, what class |
| 18:38.15 | dreamss | oh pally? lol |
| 18:38.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina: halt die fresse, ich spreche auch andere sprachen ausser englisch |
| 18:38.37 | Thunder_Child | speaking is overrated |
| 18:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:39.27 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: à meðan svara ég þér á móti á máli sem þú bottnar ekkert Ã. :P |
| 18:40.19 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 18:42.35 | Industrial | affliction is the way to level, right? is it true (heard this from a lock) tht you'd rather use an imp because when he is out of combat (and the enemy cant see him) you get 100% mana regen while casting? at what level can you do this? |
| 18:43.12 | Industrial | zullen we dan mijn taal er ook maar even tegenaan gooien :D? |
| 18:43.30 | Polarina | Industrial: Imp you can get at level 1. |
| 18:43.40 | Industrial | .. yes but the regen thingy |
| 18:43.47 | dreamss | i would go demo at higher level with demo sac vw |
| 18:44.03 | Industrial | i am asking about the imp regen thingy! |
| 18:44.06 | Industrial | >.< |
| 18:45.14 | Polarina | Is this a good sarcasm? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=75487&posted=1#post75487 |
| 18:49.32 | Cairenn | cog|work: gimme the factoid link for the upcoming book, since I know you've got it mem'd |
| 18:49.58 | Cairenn | please |
| 18:50.02 | cog|work | ~wowprogramming |
| 18:50.03 | purl | i heard wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
| 18:51.13 | Cairenn | thanks cog|work |
| 18:51.47 | cog|work | :) |
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| 18:56.57 | matt1s | where is a good API reference? |
| 18:57.30 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API |
| 18:57.35 | kd3 | or blizzard's code itself |
| 18:57.37 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 18:57.38 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 19:05.53 | matt1s | thanks kd3 |
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| 19:15.48 | matt1s | cog|work: is it possible to do this with CogsBar (I read the documentation, but I couldn't gleen of it if it is possible): Three bars with three pages each. All bars should change page on 'E' and on 'Q' keypresses. Shift+1 selects bar1, shift+2 selects bar2 etc. When I press '1' I select slot1 of the selected bar. |
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| 19:22.55 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/11/15/pew-pew-pew-2/ |
| 19:26.46 | Lunessa | matt1s: You can do something like that using the paging features of most action bar replacement AddOns. |
| 19:27.11 | cladhaire | matt1s: perhaps you should ask cog|work |
| 19:27.23 | cog|work | cladhaire: he did |
| 19:27.33 | cladhaire | oh, then why is he still asking |
| 19:27.33 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:27.43 | cog|work | huh? |
| 19:28.05 | cog|work | his "still asking" starts with "cog|work:" |
| 19:28.12 | cog|work | i just haven't had a chance to answer :P |
| 19:28.15 | cladhaire | oh |
| 19:28.16 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:28.40 | cog|work | matt1s: do this three times: /cb create 12x1 actionbar |
| 19:28.56 | cog|work | and then use normal action bar page bindings |
| 19:29.16 | cog|work | or if you want one large clump: |
| 19:29.22 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:30.21 | Thunder_Child | what he wasnt isnt possible in normal actionbar page bidnings i think |
| 19:31.36 | cog|work | yes it is |
| 19:31.48 | Lunessa | Not in the default UI, but I could emulate this with Bongos2 or Bartender3 - I'm assuming I could do it in Trinity bars 2 as well. |
| 19:31.52 | cog|work | the actionbar state driver uses the same action bar pages that you'd get from the bindings |
| 19:32.15 | cog|work | oh |
| 19:32.17 | cog|work | actually |
| 19:32.34 | cog|work | the command would have to be /cb create 12x1 actionbar:1-3 |
| 19:32.48 | cog|work | so that it doesn't try to create mappings for 6 pages on each bar |
| 19:39.15 | Thunder_Child | i think i am playing to many games....the credits/begining theme part of a show came on and i thought "damn time to skip the cut secene"...almost hit the esc button before i stoped myself |
| 19:39.31 | Lunessa | lol |
| 19:41.26 | Polarina | Hmm... What happens if I make WorldFrame run in a coroutine? |
| 19:45.01 | Cide | ... what? |
| 19:45.06 | Cide | that doesn't even make sense |
| 19:45.52 | Polarina | Cide: Wouldn't that make software cursour look like a hardware one? :P |
| 19:46.02 | Cide | no idea what you're talking about still |
| 19:46.06 | Cide | so I'll just ignore you |
| 19:46.38 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 19:47.15 | Polarina | Thus reducing interface lag. |
| 19:49.32 | Cide | I'm ignoring you still |
| 19:50.23 | Polarina | Like the option in Direct3D under video settings. Make it work in OpenGL mode using that has a hack.. |
| 19:51.51 | mikma | blah |
| 19:53.34 | matt1s | Lunessa, cog|work, cladhaire, thanks for your input and advice |
| 19:54.37 | cladhaire | np |
| 19:55.41 | MentalPower | Polarina: I don't think anyone here knows what you're talking about |
| 19:55.53 | Polarina | MentalPower: Ok.. |
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| 19:56.19 | Lunessa | Ahhh.. Puddle of Mudd playing on iTunes - My theme song. "She Fucking Hates Me." |
| 19:59.24 | matt1s | cog|work: I just did what you said, /cb create 12x1 actionbar:1-3 three times. I use the default bindings to change the pages, and all three changes at once, so far so good. But how do I select bar1? |
| 19:59.57 | cog|work | same way you normally would go to a bar |
| 20:01.59 | matt1s | I think my explanation of what I'm looking for is not good enough. I want to be able to select bar1 with shift+1 and then use [1 - 12] to select a slot on that bar. Then I want to hit shift+2 to select bar2 and still use [1-12] to select slots on bar2 |
| 20:02.31 | Intangir | !te us mug'thol 2v2 fallen ones |
| 20:02.33 | ThraeBot | Intangir: that is not the team you are looking for! |
| 20:02.38 | matt1s | shift+1 != change page |
| 20:03.11 | cog|work | so what you're essentially asking for is 9 pages? |
| 20:03.32 | matt1s | yes, but on three separate bars so that I don't have to hit shift+[1-9] |
| 20:06.01 | cog|work | i don't think any bar mod is capable of that |
| 20:06.14 | cog|work | it would involve setting override bindings based on a custom state header |
| 20:06.56 | matt1s | That sounds eerily like it's actually possible to do |
| 20:07.18 | cog|work | oh it is definitely possible |
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| 20:07.43 | cog|work | it's just an extremely specific behavior that would be hard to justify generalizing in a bar mod |
| 20:07.48 | cog|work | except maybe flexbar :P |
| 20:08.19 | matt1s | This might be an over ambitious first-addon attempt though ;-) I just got Eclipse with LuaEclipse installed and thought I'd try my hands on it.. until I tried reading about secure templates |
| 20:08.35 | Lunessa | You could make Bongos 2 or Bartender 3 act that way. *I* wouldn't set mine up that way, but it certainly is possible. |
| 20:08.39 | matt1s | which hurt my brain |
| 20:09.11 | Lunessa | And I certainly wouldn't want to do it on any character with stances or forms. |
| 20:09.55 | Polarina | OMG! I found a way to modify a forum post without having the forums show the "Last edited by" thing! |
| 20:10.05 | matt1s | I need to be able to do all my warrior skills with the keyboard only, that's why I need this setup |
| 20:10.16 | matt1s | I had it with Discord Action Bars, but the a patch came along and broke it all |
| 20:10.23 | kd3 | how's that, polarina? |
| 20:10.30 | Polarina | kd3: Secret. :P |
| 20:10.36 | kd3 | ... |
| 20:10.44 | matt1s | Lunessa: If I'm used to Discord Action Bars, which mod of Bartender / Bongos should I go for? |
| 20:10.57 | cog|work | Polarina: you're either lying, mistaken, or hacking |
| 20:11.06 | Polarina | cog|work: None of these. |
| 20:11.11 | cog|work | at least if you're not willing to share :P |
| 20:11.14 | Lunessa | Doesn't matter. They overlap greatly in features. |
| 20:11.29 | Polarina | cog|work: I can show you a example. |
| 20:11.52 | Lunessa | matt1s: I use Bongos2 and like it, but I've used bartender 3 and liked it too. Pick one and learn it's features. |
| 20:12.26 | Polarina | cog|work: Want to see it? |
| 20:12.32 | cog|work | nah... |
| 20:12.35 | cog|work | just wanted to be an asshole |
| 20:12.43 | matt1s | Lunessa: all right, I'll try both out |
| 20:12.45 | Polarina | cog|work: ... |
| 20:13.05 | Lunessa | cog|work: You're my hero. |
| 20:13.47 | Thunder_Child | "(12:12:36) (cog|work) just wanted to be an asshole" <-- you need to work on it |
| 20:13.54 | cog|work | fuck you |
| 20:13.58 | cog|work | better? |
| 20:14.08 | cog|work | meh... i prefer subtlety |
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| 20:15.17 | Thunder_Child | the two are not mutually exclusive |
| 20:15.24 | Thunder_Child | you can be a subtle asshole |
| 20:15.45 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968108190&postId=29491434453&sid=1#4 |
| 20:15.51 | cog|work | ^ |
| 20:18.01 | Lunessa | "Lap-dogs, all of you! Fools! Our cause is righteous!" |
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| 20:19.45 | matt1s | Lunessa: Bongos2, I can make three bars change pages at once on a keypress, but how do I point my [1-12] keybindings from bar1 to bar2? |
| 20:22.03 | Thunder_Child | cog|work, "cookie for actually paying attention to the second sentence in the OP" <-- not bad, but the ideal is to rub it in their face so they cant take it any other way and still have it sound proper |
| 20:22.24 | cog|work | that's what i mean by preferring subtlety |
| 20:22.38 | Thunder_Child | right, but that can be taken at face value |
| 20:23.17 | cog|work | meh... it always amuses me when a snide insult gets a "thanks" |
| 20:26.09 | Lunessa | matt1s: When the bars page, the 1 through = bindings apply to the displayed bars. |
| 20:26.43 | Intangir | i love bongos |
| 20:26.50 | Intangir | i dont need to page out several bars at a time though |
| 20:26.53 | Intangir | just the stealth bar |
| 20:26.57 | Intangir | it would be useful for a druid though |
| 20:27.03 | Intangir | they got so many damn skills and only 1 bar flips |
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| 20:27.55 | cog|work | Intangir: that's kind of a non sequitur |
| 20:28.28 | Intangir | what? |
| 20:28.40 | Intangir | oh i mean i dont need it for my rogue |
| 20:28.42 | cog|work | well, it may be different since bc |
| 20:28.43 | Intangir | but i might for a druid |
| 20:29.06 | cog|work | but does each form have 12 form-exclusive spells? |
| 20:29.13 | cog|work | because that's the only reason for flipping... |
| 20:29.45 | Intangir | the problem is the hotkeys ive got.. i mean some are more convenient than others |
| 20:29.50 | Intangir | all 12 that flip arent all that convenient |
| 20:30.12 | matt1s | Lunessa: I've set up the paging like this: bar1->bar4, bar2->bar5, bar3->bar6. When I hit E I change to page 2, when I hit Q I change back to page 1. All three bars change. I want to -select- bar1 with shift+1, and [1-12] to select what slot. Then I want to -select- bar2 with shift+2, and still use [1-12] to select slot. Since bongos pages to another bar it kind of messes up my explanation |
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| 20:32.38 | matt1s | Lunessa: I think what cog|work is saying, that no bar mod is designed to be able to do this yet. |
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| 20:39.22 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
| 20:39.44 | Cairenn | hey cncfanatics |
| 20:39.55 | cncfanatics | 6 levels to go |
| 20:39.57 | cncfanatics | lets do one tonight :p |
| 20:40.12 | Saint-N | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 20:40.23 | Saint-N | whens who supposed to come out? |
| 20:41.20 | Lunessa | matt1s: You'll either have to learn to live with what you can get from current bar mods, or code your own. |
| 20:41.42 | matt1s | Lunessa: I'm looking into coding my own |
| 20:42.08 | matt1s | just needed to know it was possible first, and cog|work says it is with custom state headers, so I guess there's where I'm going to start |
| 20:43.06 | Saint-N | mattis |
| 20:43.21 | Saint-N | if you've got bar 1-6 setup how you want |
| 20:43.46 | cncfanatics | matt1s, what are you trying to do ? |
| 20:43.57 | Saint-N | couldnt you technically just make small addon that just executes the shift+4,5,6 and shift-1,2,3 for you? |
| 20:44.04 | Saint-N | cncfanatics: change 3 bars at once |
| 20:44.08 | Thunder_Child | he is trying to chage the bindings depending on the bar he slecets |
| 20:44.13 | Saint-N | and retain the orignal bar bindings |
| 20:44.23 | cncfanatics | change 3 bars, how ? |
| 20:44.30 | Thunder_Child | rotate them |
| 20:44.33 | cncfanatics | with shift-ctrl-alt modifiers its possible in FB |
| 20:44.35 | Thunder_Child | paging* |
| 20:44.46 | cncfanatics | and I don't think its possible to do it without those, as only those 3 can be modifiers |
| 20:45.00 | Thunder_Child | thats not waht he is talking about |
| 20:45.08 | matt1s | according to cog I can do it with custom state headers, which I'm just now starting to read about |
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| 20:45.43 | matt1s | It's hard to explain what I want. It's kind of a three dimensional actionbar |
| 20:46.03 | Thunder_Child | i get it |
| 20:46.08 | cncfanatics | well, if cog explains to me how to do it with a state header I could code it |
| 20:46.27 | cncfanatics | or if you explain very very well I could eventualy look stuff up too :) |
| 20:46.52 | Saint-N | shift1or2 swaps bar 1and4, shift3and4 swaps bar 2and4 and shift5and6 swaps bar 3and6 but the assigned keybindings for 1 2 3 carry over to whatever fills 4 5 6 slots ? |
| 20:47.11 | Thunder_Child | kinda |
| 20:47.12 | Saint-N | all without touching the other bars? |
| 20:47.13 | MentalPower | lua> for k in pairs(string) do print(k) end |
| 20:47.13 | cladbot | MentalPower: split, match, gmatch, upper, gsub, format, lower, sub, gfind, find, char, dump, rep, join, byte, len, trim, reverse |
| 20:47.45 | Saint-N | is that about right? |
| 20:48.00 | MentalPower | lua> string.join(1,2,3,4,5) |
| 20:48.00 | cladbot | MentalPower: 2131415, |
| 20:48.05 | cncfanatics | hmmm Saint-N |
| 20:48.16 | Saint-N | sorry talking to mattis |
| 20:48.16 | cncfanatics | how would you trigger the state change in the state header ? |
| 20:48.23 | cncfanatics | as far as I know, you can't have a remap when a key is pressed |
| 20:48.27 | cncfanatics | only while a modifier key is pushed |
| 20:48.30 | cncfanatics | though I might be mistaking |
| 20:48.35 | matt1s | I have boiled it down to this: I have three bars. All three bars have two pages. I change pages with Q and E. I want to -select- bar1 with shift+1, and use [1-12] to reference the slots. shift+2 selects bar2, and I still use [1-12] to reference the slots. This will work regardless of what page is showing. |
| 20:48.37 | Thunder_Child | 3 bars, they all need to be switched at the same time with 1 key press (forward and back key) then you can shift+1, shift+2 or shift+3 to target a bar, an whichever bar is targeted uses 1-10 |
| 20:48.44 | Thunder_Child | is what i got out of it |
| 20:49.02 | matt1s | that's exactly what i'm looking for Thunder_Child |
| 20:49.16 | cncfanatics | well, you can bind the click on the buttons to a key |
| 20:49.17 | cncfanatics | thats np |
| 20:49.23 | cncfanatics | I wonder how u'll remap on keypress |
| 20:49.28 | cncfanatics | there is no doing that as far as I know |
| 20:49.31 | Lunessa | In Bongos2 I have 1 through = bound to buttons on Bar 1, On Bar 2, I have Alt1 though Alt= bound. I page bar1 to Bar 3 and Bar 2 to bar 4 if I hold down CTRL and then my bindings for Bar1 and Bar 2 Apply to Bar 3 & 4. |
| 20:49.43 | Thunder_Child | matt1s, the only things is, is that i dont code....figures huh |
| 20:49.51 | cncfanatics | Cairenn might know |
| 20:49.54 | matt1s | Thunder_Child: :-) yeah, I code but not Lua |
| 20:49.56 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, can you remap on a keypress ? |
| 20:50.05 | Cairenn | I have no clue, I don't code for WoW |
| 20:50.09 | matt1s | cncfanatics: cog|work says you can do it with a custom state header |
| 20:50.14 | cncfanatics | matt1s , if you can remap on keypresses, its a matter of 1 line of code to add it into FB |
| 20:50.30 | cncfanatics | FB accepts 3rd party modules adding new states to the state header |
| 20:50.30 | cog|work | cncfanatics: yes |
| 20:50.51 | Thunder_Child | that sounds dirty zenzelezz |
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| 20:50.54 | Saint-N | would work like a macro no? /bind "e" spell("some spell (rank4) |
| 20:50.56 | Polarina | Blizzard should make us a special function implemented like this: |
| 20:50.56 | Polarina | function IsBuildBugFree() |
| 20:50.56 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.56 | Polarina | end |
| 20:50.57 | zenzelezz | it was meant to be |
| 20:50.58 | cncfanatics | cog|work, what macro modifier ? |
| 20:51.06 | cog|work | not a macro modifier |
| 20:51.15 | cog|work | sec |
| 20:51.25 | cncfanatics | how to do it then ? :o |
| 20:51.48 | Lunessa | You could bind /swapactionbar 1 3 and /swapactionbar 2 4 to "E" and mimic what he's looking for. |
| 20:52.13 | cog|work | cncfanatics: make a state header then have buttons of type "attribute". Make those buttons set the state attribute on the header itself |
| 20:52.19 | cog|work | or state-whatever |
| 20:52.30 | cncfanatics | hmmm, indeed |
| 20:52.31 | MentalPower | type(strconcat) |
| 20:52.32 | cncfanatics | that would work |
| 20:52.42 | cncfanatics | and is possible in FB |
| 20:52.45 | MentalPower | lua> return type(strconcat) |
| 20:52.45 | cladbot | MentalPower: function |
| 20:53.04 | cncfanatics | but it would always be a remap for all buttons |
| 20:53.07 | cncfanatics | not only certain bars |
| 20:53.10 | cncfanatics | as the state is common |
| 20:53.11 | matt1s | s/quitely/quietly |
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| 20:53.15 | cncfanatics | and u'd have mess with the state headers |
| 20:53.27 | cog|work | cncfanatics: |
| 20:53.28 | MentalPower | >>> return type(string.concat) |
| 20:53.28 | Cide | MentalPower: "nil" |
| 20:53.35 | MentalPower | lua> return type(string.concat) |
| 20:53.35 | cladbot | MentalPower: nil |
| 20:53.38 | cncfanatics | yes cog|work ? :p |
| 20:53.39 | cog|work | what i was thinking is the sate change would set up rebindings |
| 20:54.02 | cog|work | so that it would simply have an override binding to one of the other physical "pages" depending on the state |
| 20:54.24 | Saint-N | cncfanatics: you could accosicate a different state to each bar though, and macro mimic the full 1-3 4-6 swap? |
| 20:54.31 | cog|work | the actual remapping would be handled by the normal bar changing mechanic |
| 20:54.45 | Saint-N | that would allow you to full 3bar swap and rotate with proper bindings no |
| 20:54.45 | Saint-N | ? |
| 20:54.50 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 20:55.02 | cog|work | unless i'm mistaken that matt1s wants the three bars showing at all times... |
| 20:55.32 | Saint-N | cog|work: yeah but the 1-3 swap with 4-6 and 1 2 3 rotate on press and 4 5 6 rotate on press |
| 20:55.34 | matt1s | cog|work: yeah, three bars always showing. The whole point is to be able to select individual bars and use [1-12] to select slots |
| 20:55.36 | cncfanatics | this is gonna be quite some stuff to add once I'm done lvl'ing |
| 20:55.57 | cncfanatics | I have an idea in mind that would make it possible for FB |
| 20:56.05 | matt1s | cog|work: able to use [1-12] regardless of what bar is selected (bar != page) |
| 20:56.53 | Saint-N | mattis: if you rotate the bars so that 2 becomes 1 and 1 becomes 3, the main action bar will reassign bar 2's buttons to whatever thier linear association to bar 1 was |
| 20:57.17 | cncfanatics | FB is lacking a few things to support that matt1s |
| 20:57.24 | cncfanatics | the first is to add a common prefix/suffix to all states |
| 20:57.28 | Saint-N | instead of just mkaking the "now bar 1" still require bar2 keybindings |
| 20:57.32 | cncfanatics | the second is a state header per group |
| 20:57.34 | matt1s | Saint-N: I was thinking about doing content swapping, but I wasn't aware you could swap the entire bars |
| 20:57.46 | Saint-N | thats the easiest |
| 20:57.51 | cog|work | matt1s: that's what happens when you change pages :P |
| 20:58.09 | matt1s | but ok yes well.. hurr |
| 20:58.19 | cncfanatics | matt1s , I'm gonna add some stuff that could make what u want supported in FB when I'm lvl 70 & geared (lvl 64 atm) |
| 20:58.51 | Saint-N | if you look at it in 3d you've got 1-3 o0n the bottom and 4-6 on the top and those 2 rows are interchangeable that is 1<->4 2<->5 3<->6 they move up and down... as well as the active 3 bars ability to rotate so that 2 becomes 1 3 becomes 2 1 becomes 3 etc |
| 20:59.26 | matt1s | Awesome :-) In the meantime I've downloaded CogsBar and I'm looking at that as a reference and I'll try to add the functionality there.. if I can master Lua |
| 20:59.43 | cncfanatics | little question |
| 21:00.04 | cncfanatics | how would one button of type attribute change 3 stateheaders ? suposing there is one per group |
| 21:00.06 | Saint-N | in that sense row a uses bar 1 keys even if the orignal bar 1 is sitting in row c |
| 21:00.17 | cog|work | cncfanatics: it wouldn't be one button |
| 21:00.26 | Saint-N | does what i just typed make sense? |
| 21:00.30 | cog|work | he was planning to use three key binds to switch to the particular bar |
| 21:00.37 | cncfanatics | ah, then its ok |
| 21:00.52 | matt1s | Saint-N: yeah, I'm thinking in 3d like you do now, and you kind of "rotate" the bars through bar-position 1 ? |
| 21:01.02 | Saint-N | correct |
| 21:01.23 | cncfanatics | actualy |
| 21:01.24 | cncfanatics | damn |
| 21:01.33 | cncfanatics | something slightly different might be possible in FB |
| 21:01.39 | cncfanatics | you could have a group of buttons remap on a keypress |
| 21:01.48 | cncfanatics | easely even |
| 21:01.48 | Saint-N | cncfanatics: groupstate and barstate ;) |
| 21:02.04 | matt1s | during combat? |
| 21:02.06 | Saint-N | group state associates any number of barstates |
| 21:02.08 | cncfanatics | yea during combat |
| 21:02.29 | Saint-N | while barstates only rotate though thier barstate |
| 21:02.31 | cncfanatics | ok, you'd add a state to FB with FlexBar2:GetModule("Attributes"):AddState("KeyRemap", "E", ""); |
| 21:03.33 | cncfanatics | then /fb setremap KeyRemap=true |
| 21:03.45 | cncfanatics | then u'd create a butto, |
| 21:03.46 | Tem | Polarina, The difference between the two versions is negligible |
| 21:03.52 | cncfanatics | its possible matt1s |
| 21:03.54 | cncfanatics | with FB |
| 21:03.57 | cncfanatics | but its anoying to do :) |
| 21:04.07 | cncfanatics | and not explicitly supported |
| 21:04.09 | Tem | the only real difference is you expanded the ternaries into if statements |
| 21:04.44 | matt1s | cncfanatics: hm, I'm not sure how that will work though, I can experiment around a bit and see if I can make it work for me |
| 21:05.43 | cncfanatics | matt1s, its an unsupported mess atm |
| 21:05.59 | cncfanatics | the custom states stuff is not very polished |
| 21:06.34 | cncfanatics | u'd have to compute new state names probably |
| 21:06.49 | cncfanatics | and without knowing the inner workings of FB that might get very anoying |
| 21:07.37 | matt1s | maybe I can try to make a reference implementation with CogsBar as a basis or something |
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| 21:07.50 | kd3 | lmao... gotta love the CS forum |
| 21:08.18 | kd3 | so someone was complaining about a name change because the name allegedly given by the gen "uass" is inappropriate. |
| 21:08.22 | cncfanatics | well matt1s, ur digging quite deep into the secure stuff |
| 21:08.33 | cncfanatics | I suggest trying with more easy stuff if ur starting with it only now |
| 21:08.41 | kd3 | one of the resident blues said "well, I'd believe you, but... your new name is "uasshat"." |
| 21:12.40 | matt1s | cncfanatics: yeah, but I think I can handle it. I'm a programmer by profession so I should be able to handle it |
| 21:13.43 | cncfanatics | then you might want to dig into FB, even though the system ain't polished, its there |
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| 21:14.37 | matt1s | first I'll have to learn the syntax of Lua, then I'll start digging :-) But thanks for all your help, I was almost convinced what I needed wasn't possible |
| 21:15.22 | cncfanatics | thank cog for finding out how, not me :p |
| 21:15.39 | cncfanatics | btw, a lil warning |
| 21:15.44 | cncfanatics | ur gonna get a headache |
| 21:16.17 | matt1s | why is that? |
| 21:16.32 | cncfanatics | u'll find out as soon as u start reading about state headers |
| 21:17.00 | matt1s | ah I've already gotten a headache from reading about state headers :-) |
| 21:18.03 | matt1s | do you have a decent explanation? I think I found one on wowwiki, but I lost it |
| 21:18.20 | matt1s | ah found it, http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SecureTemplates |
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| 21:20.01 | cncfanatics | bit limited info tbh |
| 21:22.51 | matt1s | do you know of a better reference? |
| 21:23.44 | cncfanatics | Cairenn |
| 21:23.52 | cncfanatics | u messed up wdn again |
| 21:23.58 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.58 | cncfanatics | there was an error same as last patch |
| 21:24.03 | Cairenn | I don't do a thing with wdn - that's all Bela |
| 21:24.03 | cncfanatics | u didn't add a zip for the last build |
| 21:24.14 | cncfanatics | ah well, Bela didn't add a zip for last patch then :p |
| 21:24.33 | cncfanatics | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/SecureStateHeader.lua http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/SecureStateDriver.lua http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/SecureTemplates.lua matt1s, those 3 links when wdn is up |
| 21:24.34 | cog|work | ~seen beladona |
| 21:24.44 | purl | beladona <n=Beladona@24.129.136.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 7h 10m 36s ago, saying: 'sorry, delayed reaction'. |
| 21:24.44 | cncfanatics | its the sourcecode with all comments from Iriel :) |
| 21:25.09 | cog|work | cncfanatics: the stuff on wdn is just |
| 21:25.18 | cog|work | the addon kit extraction |
| 21:25.30 | cog|work | ~addonkit |
| 21:25.31 | purl | Located at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool that allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 21:25.45 | cncfanatics | true, can extract it out |
| 21:27.40 | Cairenn | it's just handy for when you aren't at your home computer and don't have access to your wow account and thus can't use the extracter |
| 21:29.18 | matt1s | thanks for the help again |
| 21:36.14 | Polarina | The feeling you get when you see your addon included within someone's else addon pack is just simply unexplainable. It is just so "sweet"... |
| 21:36.53 | zenzelezz | if you're into that sort of thing |
| 21:37.24 | cncfanatics | Polarina, agree :) |
| 21:41.33 | Polarina | It's not because you find it popular, but something else... |
| 21:43.01 | foxlit | So, I have a question |
| 21:43.20 | foxlit | Why does the addonkit insist that there's a texture called INV_MISC_AMETHYST_03.blp |
| 21:43.21 | kd3 | ack. is the armory breaking firefox for anyone else? |
| 21:43.33 | foxlit | rather than INV_Misc_Amethyst_03.blp as it was in previous extractions |
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| 21:43.48 | foxlit | armory is slow and painful. |
| 21:44.02 | foxlit | (at the moment; the US one) |
| 21:45.55 | foxlit | In other terms, how do I get a properly capitalized list of WoW texture names? |
| 21:46.29 | Cide | winmpq? |
| 21:46.51 | foxlit | Only if its entirely unavoidable :( |
| 21:46.52 | Cide | filter: Interface/Icons/*.blp |
| 21:46.56 | Cide | it's the easiest way |
| 21:47.29 | foxlit | which MPQ? |
| 21:47.29 | kd3 | it exteacted properly for me |
| 21:47.38 | kd3 | INV_Misc_Gem_Amethyst_03.blp |
| 21:47.42 | Cide | foxlit: dunno |
| 21:47.45 | kd3 | I just used the addon kit |
| 21:47.59 | foxlit | kd3: I just used it; twice, on both Mac and PC. |
| 21:48.13 | foxlit | Did you delete your older Art directory? :) |
| 21:48.26 | kd3 | it just created it ;) |
| 21:48.56 | foxlit | mind doing a ls *.blp > somefile.txt and uploading that somewhere? |
| 21:51.47 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.00 | kd3 | that's just the icons directory |
| 21:52.04 | kd3 | any other folds you want? |
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| 21:52.44 | foxlit | Nah, that's it. |
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| 21:59.20 | Shirik | ~weather KDAB |
| 21:59.48 | kd3 | heh, it's not much warmer a few hundred miles north of you |
| 21:59.55 | kd3 | ~weather KTBR |
| 22:00.39 | Polarina | ~weather Iceland |
| 22:00.51 | Polarina | ~weather ISL |
| 22:01.25 | cncfanatics | what code would zaventem airport have ? |
| 22:01.28 | cncfanatics | and wevelghem airport ? |
| 22:01.35 | Polarina | ~weather KEFL |
| 22:02.34 | Shirik | ~weather KSQR |
| 22:02.42 | Polarina | ~weather BIKF |
| 22:03.19 | Cairenn | Shirik: grrrrrr |
| 22:03.25 | Cairenn | other channel, please! |
| 22:03.30 | Polarina | ~weather BIST |
| 22:03.44 | cncfanatics | polarina, use whispers ? |
| 22:03.50 | Polarina | purl: BIST is listed as a valid code! |
| 22:03.50 | purl | Polarina: okay |
| 22:03.52 | Polarina | cncfanatics: Ok. |
| 22:04.06 | Polarina | ~weather BIST |
| 22:04.14 | Polarina | prul: Grr... |
| 22:04.17 | Polarina | prul: Grr.. |
| 22:04.18 | MentalPower | ~weather TJSJ |
| 22:04.48 | cncfanatics | ~weather EBCI |
| 22:05.11 | cncfanatics | above = belgian weather sucks |
| 22:05.43 | Saint-N | ~weather KNYC |
| 22:05.57 | Saint-N | whee |
| 22:05.58 | Cairenn | oh for the love of god guys, take it to PMs |
| 22:06.04 | Saint-N | looks like it might snow soonish |
| 22:06.06 | Cairenn | enough with the bloody spam in channel |
| 22:06.13 | Polarina | SPAM! |
| 22:06.15 | Polarina | :P |
| 22:06.20 | MentalPower | sorry Cairenn |
| 22:06.33 | Saint-N | we're not interrupting anyone talking, whats the big deal? |
| 22:06.49 | MentalPower | its still spam |
| 22:06.57 | Saint-N | its not us |
| 22:07.08 | MentalPower | huh? |
| 22:07.08 | Cairenn | whatever |
| 22:07.10 | Saint-N | make clad move the response on some commands to whisper response |
| 22:07.18 | Saint-N | or whoever purl belongs to |
| 22:07.20 | MentalPower | clad does not control purl |
| 22:07.29 | kadrahil | hugs |
| 22:07.29 | MentalPower | and the owner has better things to do |
| 22:07.30 | kadrahil | all around |
| 22:07.31 | cladhaire | you can PM purl |
| 22:07.34 | cladhaire | its that simple. |
| 22:07.38 | cladhaire | now stop spamming the damn channel |
| 22:07.41 | kadrahil | free hugs |
| 22:07.43 | Saint-N | ~lart |
| 22:08.06 | Saint-N | you mean like you guys do with your friggin spamming of lua shit? |
| 22:08.19 | Cide | I think lua is more relevant than weather to this channel |
| 22:08.24 | Cairenn | Saint-N: it's an author channel, duh |
| 22:08.24 | MentalPower | lua shit happens to be relevant to this channel |
| 22:08.30 | Saint-N | and? |
| 22:08.36 | Saint-N | its still spam |
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| 22:08.40 | Cairenn | stop being a jackass |
| 22:08.43 | Cide | and if you pay attention, you would also see that if extensive bot spamming occurs, people are asked to move it to another channel as well |
| 22:08.44 | Saint-N | im not |
| 22:08.45 | Cairenn | I'm not in the mood |
| 22:08.59 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.04 | cladhaire | Saint-N: and i yell at them |
| 22:09.06 | kadrahil | ;o |
| 22:09.06 | Saint-N | fucking whiners |
| 22:09.07 | cladhaire | now knock the shit off |
| 22:09.08 | cladhaire | period. |
| 22:09.35 | kadrahil | i think my /popcorn just ended that debate |
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| 22:10.12 | kadrahil | purl: meet Furl |
| 22:10.13 | purl | hey Furl :) |
| 22:10.14 | Lunessa | Ahhh... to be young and so absolutely convinced of my inherent rightness. |
| 22:10.36 | Furl | After some manual garbage collection, I got my UI memory usage down to 75 megs from 120 |
| 22:10.45 | Furl | Hooah. |
| 22:10.47 | kadrahil | holy crap that's alot |
| 22:11.01 | Furl | I think Warmup shit itself :/ |
| 22:11.46 | Cide | pretty sure that's to be expected if you run a lot of ace addons |
| 22:12.09 | Furl | Even better is I got my UI loadup time from 61s to 21s |
| 22:12.15 | kadrahil | pretty sure the point of ace addons was to minimize memory usage? |
| 22:12.27 | Cide | kadrahil: uhh?? what? |
| 22:12.34 | sysrage | uh. why do i have a domination button where my pet bar should be? 50000 yard range. insta cast control of humanoid for 10 secs |
| 22:12.39 | sysrage | doesn't work though *cry* |
| 22:12.42 | Cide | the point of ace is to provide authors a development framework |
| 22:12.50 | Cide | it doesn't minimalize memory or cpu usage at all |
| 22:12.58 | kadrahil | Cide: maybe i missed something then, but i thought it did ;( |
| 22:13.03 | Cide | it doesn't |
| 22:13.06 | Furl | Aye. There's a load of garbage in ace |
| 22:13.17 | Cide | Furl: that's to be expected from libraries in general |
| 22:13.21 | Cide | ace just happens to have a lot of libraries |
| 22:13.29 | Furl | Only 175 megs of addons in my addons folder. |
| 22:13.45 | Cide | which are all loaded into memory, and then discarded and garbage collected |
| 22:13.49 | Furl | Well I mean as in the mibibytes range |
| 22:14.19 | Furl | Pitbull has 10 mibibytes o garbage. |
| 22:14.26 | Furl | ~lart Jelly |
| 22:14.26 | purl | blasts Jelly with a huge firehose then strangles Jelly with it |
| 22:15.03 | Furl | But yea, I brought my load time down significantly, lol |
| 22:15.26 | kadrahil | i'm going to install wow in XP in bootcamp on my mbp this weekend :( |
| 22:15.31 | kadrahil | performance in osx is pissing me off |
| 22:15.45 | Furl | purl: mac |
| 22:15.45 | purl | methinks mac is ... MAC?!???! *chomp* |
| 22:15.52 | Cide | are you sure that's osx's fault and not your computer's? :P |
| 22:16.09 | kadrahil | Cide: i know 3 people with the same problem, so i sure hope it's osx's fault |
| 22:16.17 | Lunessa | Meh. 2.3 doesn't like my iMac so much right now. |
| 22:16.36 | kadrahil | once the laptop starts to heat up, graphics performance starts to suck |
| 22:16.44 | kadrahil | it gets laggy, then smooth.. lag, smooth.. lag, smooth.. lag, smoooth |
| 22:16.50 | Furl | Bleh |
| 22:17.14 | Furl | I'ma go PvP for a bit |
| 22:19.41 | kergoth | hmm, anyone have a preference for addon to show what your alts can learn, recipe wise? recipebook? professionsbook? tradeskillinfo? |
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| 22:24.19 | cog|work | recipebook is nice |
| 22:24.23 | cog|work | haven't tried the others |
| 22:26.08 | Saeris | Where can I find information on how to set up a paged action bar? |
| 22:26.29 | sysrage | furl how'd you lower load time by 40 seconds? |
| 22:26.35 | sysrage | just removing addons you don't use? |
| 22:28.43 | cog|work | Saeris: as a user or an author? |
| 22:30.14 | Saeris | Author. More pertinently, could anyone tell me why the following code works fine but throws the "An interface action failed because of an AddOn" message? http://wowi.pastey.net/77433 I've narrowed it down to the line that's commented as causing taint. |
| 22:31.14 | foxlit | Is UpdateAction a custom function? |
| 22:31.23 | foxlit | () |
| 22:31.28 | Saeris | No, it's ActionButton_UpdateAction. |
| 22:31.40 | foxlit | But it won't be secure if you set it, anyway |
| 22:32.02 | Saeris | How can I arrange this code so that ActionButton_UpdateAction is called when the page changes? |
| 22:32.10 | foxlit | (and I should've read the definitions) |
| 22:36.11 | cncfanatics | Saeris, I doubt you can |
| 22:38.47 | Saeris | How am I supposed to update the button's texture when the page changes, then? I mean, how is this sort of thing implemented in custom action button addons? I guess I'll take a look myself. |
| 22:39.03 | cncfanatics | costum action buttons addons are not bothered by taint |
| 22:39.13 | cncfanatics | they don't taint the UI if they recheck their icons :p |
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| 22:42.05 | zenzelezz | "*Notice for epileptics* • Blizzard is working on adding an option to disable the red flashes (on world map while in combat) in the near future. (src)" <-- ouch |
| 22:42.24 | Kaso | hah |
| 22:42.28 | foxlit | Coolest red flash ever = Archimonde |
| 22:42.36 | foxlit | The whole screen goes red. And then you die. |
| 22:46.12 | Kaso | Anyone seen this whole Jade Raymond stuff thats been going off today? Rather Amusing |
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| 23:01.25 | kd3 | damn it! |
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| 23:06.32 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 23:15.49 | Cide | http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/16/jonathan-coulton-sings-still-alive/ |
| 23:17.59 | bleeter | bah, bad bad shaping |
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| 23:45.36 | Cairenn | ~sigh Shirik |
| 23:45.36 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Shirik!" |
| 23:45.39 | Cairenn | ~sigh dolby-wowi |
| 23:45.40 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "dolby-wowi!" |
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| 23:54.37 | Kelfarr | my ui is up for 435 dls |
| 23:54.49 | Kelfarr | 70 in the past 2 hours |
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| 23:57.59 | Polarina | Kelfarr: :D |
