| 00:00.51 | Rayne | Also, best movie Jim Carey was ever in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJej6kCgxVM |
| 00:01.21 | Kaso | f = CreateFrame("Frame") f:RegisterEvent("RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE") f:OnEvent(function() if UnitInRaid("player") then frame:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,"CENTER",x,y) else frame:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,"CENTER",x,y) end end) |
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| 00:01.32 | Kaso | thats pretty much it there in one line |
| 00:01.41 | Antiarc | Rayne: /run ir=UnitInRaid("player") or 2; pos=[[500,500], [600,600]]; db=Omen.db.profile; db.PositionX, db.PositionY = pos[ir][1], pos[ir][2]; Omen:SetAnchors(true); |
| 00:01.57 | Antiarc | Change the 500, 500 and 600,600 to your raid and not-raid positions, respectively |
| 00:02.03 | Antiarc | Then just hit that macro and the position should update |
| 00:02.14 | Kaso | that's better ^ |
| 00:02.39 | Rayne | how do you copy from IRC again? |
| 00:02.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Very carefully |
| 00:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | What client do you have? |
| 00:02.59 | Kaso | most irc clients will copy if you just highlight the text |
| 00:03.12 | Kaso | s/most/many/ |
| 00:03.51 | Rayne | ok let me try this... |
| 00:05.56 | Cairenn | I'm back, what else have we found out guys? |
| 00:06.11 | ScytheBlade1 | That it's the exact same trojan in form and function as incgamers |
| 00:06.11 | Codayus | You know, the trojan...stuff is fairly impressive. Compromising TWO sites, plus the quality of the programming, the domains, etc... Scary. |
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| 00:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Typing up *complete* removal instructions now |
| 00:06.28 | Antiarc | Not a whole lot new. I seem to have been able to clean it with AntiVir though. |
| 00:06.31 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 00:06.54 | Antiarc | Codayus: The trojan itself is just a variant of an existing trojan |
| 00:07.05 | Antiarc | So I doubt the people doing the box cracking wrote the trojan and payload itself |
| 00:07.12 | Codayus | Somewhat reasurring. |
| 00:07.24 | Codayus | But no, what I meant was the mmm...quality of the overall package? |
| 00:07.27 | Rayne | So let me look even more retarded and as if I have to program that into a macro or if I have to make something else |
| 00:07.39 | Antiarc | Yeah, it's a macro |
| 00:07.46 | Rayne | I promise you all one day I WILL sit down and learn this crap top to bottom -_- |
| 00:07.46 | Antiarc | You have to use it manually to toggle positions though |
| 00:07.50 | Antiarc | It isn't event-respondent |
| 00:08.41 | Kaso | It does seem to have been a very professional attack on all fronts, i wonder how much funding the hacking team got from whichever gold selling site they worked for. |
| 00:09.14 | Rayne | I get an error using it |
| 00:09.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: printfpool was in system32 and not %systemroot% - right? |
| 00:09.45 | Antiarc | Yup |
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| 00:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Couldn't remember, just making sure |
| 00:10.03 | Codayus | Kaso: Well, that is the question. Freelancers? In-house talent? Gifted amateurs? For profit? For fun? |
| 00:10.14 | WobWork | http://wow.mmolecule.com/news/ektimages/gg/gg_03_new.jpg |
| 00:10.24 | Kaso | Im putting my bets on for profit |
| 00:11.16 | Rayne | -_- |
| 00:11.27 | reqol | okay, so if the unitid npc is the only reference to the person you're trading with, then how would I compare it to a string? |
| 00:11.39 | ScytheBlade1 | BAH |
| 00:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I just hit the "back" button on my mouse and lost the pastey :P |
| 00:11.54 | Kaso | compare the trade partnets name you mean reqol ? |
| 00:12.03 | reqol | yes |
| 00:12.10 | Kaso | if UnitName("npc") == "Whatever" then etc etc etc |
| 00:12.18 | reqol | damn |
| 00:12.21 | reqol | I was looking for API like that |
| 00:12.27 | reqol | thanks, I'm really oblivious! |
| 00:12.52 | Kaso | you should check out the TradeFrame.lua file, it has an example of them using that function |
| 00:13.03 | Kaso | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/0307561/FrameXML/TradeFrame.lua |
| 00:13.12 | reqol | alright, i will take a look at it. thanks a lot for the help :D |
| 00:13.12 | Rayne | Is the only thing I have to change in that macro string the position, or is there more? O_o |
| 00:15.09 | Rayne | Cause I feel stupid :( |
| 00:15.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: http://wowi.pastey.net/78375 <-- look complete? |
| 00:15.51 | Antiarc | That looks valid. Add a "start WoW, then exit and verify that bad files are still gone." |
| 00:16.05 | Antiarc | Also add "Do a full system scan with an antivirus program" |
| 00:16.25 | Antiarc | On #2, specify what the bad files are |
| 00:16.47 | Antiarc | So people know exactly what to look for. The non-savvy folks won't look in the attrib/del commands for the filenames |
| 00:16.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Right |
| 00:17.04 | ScytheBlade1 | This is essentially copy and paste |
| 00:18.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Which program picks it up again? |
| 00:18.18 | Antiarc | AntiVir, http://freeav.com |
| 00:18.22 | Antiarc | My antivirus of choice |
| 00:20.03 | bleeter | note: AntiVir don't support 98/ME anymore (I assume 95 too) |
| 00:20.04 | ScytheBlade1 | 78376 |
| 00:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Look good? |
| 00:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: http://wowi.pastey.net/78376 <-- check it again and then I'll ping Cair with it |
| 00:23.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just glad it isn't using any rootkit hiding techniques, hehe |
| 00:23.18 | Rayne | Antiarc: yeah it gives me an error when I hit the macro, maybe because im sitting around IF and not in a raid? |
| 00:23.24 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Change line 18 to read "Start WoW, and then close it. DO NOT LOG IN." |
| 00:23.30 | Antiarc | Rayne: What's the error? |
| 00:23.44 | ScytheBlade1 | +1 on the URL |
| 00:23.53 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Other than that, looks great |
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| 00:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: wait... run rootkitrevealer for me |
| 00:24.23 | Antiarc | Let me install it |
| 00:24.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 00:24.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind |
| 00:24.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That's in ControlSet001 and 002 |
| 00:24.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Not CurrentControlSet |
| 00:24.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: http://wowi.pastey.net/78377 |
| 00:24.58 | Rayne | one tic getting SS |
| 00:25.15 | Rayne | also looking for my asprin...my last wisdom tooth is pushing out and it hurts |
| 00:26.21 | MentalPower | Rayne: aspirin is a bad idea |
| 00:26.23 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Picked up those discrepancies in ControlSet001/003 |
| 00:26.37 | Rayne | its persribed |
| 00:26.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: yup... but not currentcontrolset, which is what I was worried about |
| 00:26.42 | ScytheBlade1 | So no need to worry then |
| 00:26.43 | Rayne | perscribbed* |
| 00:26.46 | MentalPower | ok |
| 00:27.07 | Rayne | I was cleaning earlier and knocked the bottle under my desk somewhere |
| 00:27.14 | Rayne | im afraid something will eat my arm yaknow? |
| 00:27.27 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_120207_192428.jpg SS of error |
| 00:28.38 | Antiarc | Bah, I'll have to actually test it |
| 00:29.44 | Rayne | I see photobucket is back to randomly shriking my screenshots... |
| 00:30.20 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: looks good |
| 00:30.40 | ScytheBlade1 | That should cover the infection for both sites |
| 00:32.07 | Cairenn | didn't include printfspool.exe or newdownload.exe |
| 00:32.18 | ScytheBlade1 | fspool was never found |
| 00:32.24 | Cairenn | ah, was just a typo? |
| 00:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Nor newdownload.exe, nor my old 21.exe |
| 00:32.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I think the fs vs. f was, yes |
| 00:32.36 | Cairenn | k |
| 00:32.42 | ScytheBlade1 | But I also think that the service that it installs is a dropper of sorts |
| 00:32.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, it downloads more crap over time |
| 00:33.13 | mikma | Cairenn: http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/Hunnybunny128410971492471250.jpg |
| 00:33.30 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:34.20 | Rayne | is there a way to mass manage a photobucket account? |
| 00:35.31 | reqol | could anyone tell me why this is defective? I understand that my code is very ugly, this is my first time trying to do anything besides some juvenile stuff. I'm just laying down the preliminary code to make sure the events fire. |
| 00:35.34 | reqol | http://pastebin.ca/804001 |
| 00:36.19 | Antiarc | newdownload.exe deletes itself when it runs |
| 00:36.20 | reqol | there are probably a thousand things wrong with it >< |
| 00:37.25 | MentalPower | reqol: you should move the function definition to before stuff that uses it |
| 00:37.39 | MentalPower | since you're passing nil into the :SetScript()s |
| 00:37.46 | reqol | oh |
| 00:37.52 | reqol | forgot to do that |
| 00:37.58 | reqol | I scrapped the onload function |
| 00:38.01 | reqol | and moved all of the definitions outside of it |
| 00:38.03 | reqol | thanks |
| 00:38.34 | MentalPower | also change this into self in that function's prototype |
| 00:39.04 | MentalPower | otherwise, it looks good |
| 00:39.22 | reqol | when did I use this? |
| 00:39.23 | reqol | I'm confused. |
| 00:39.31 | reqol | oh |
| 00:39.33 | reqol | I see |
| 00:39.44 | MentalPower | oh, and :SetScript("OnLoad", foobar) won't work ever |
| 00:39.47 | reqol | yeah |
| 00:39.49 | reqol | it's gone |
| 00:39.49 | MentalPower | since it will never fire |
| 00:39.50 | reqol | i removed it earlier |
| 00:39.58 | reqol | forgot to scrap it when I took out onload |
| 00:40.12 | MentalPower | also, pastey>>>>>pastebin.ca |
| 00:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: can you e-mail me a copy of printfpool.exe by chance? I don't want to reinstall it, but I need it in this zip |
| 00:40.18 | MentalPower | tho I'm biased :) |
| 00:40.26 | Antiarc | Sure, lemme reinfect |
| 00:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | this nick (lowercase)@averageurl.com |
| 00:40.39 | Antiarc | I'm just gonna post it online |
| 00:40.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Works too |
| 00:40.49 | Antiarc | Since I have samba access to my webserver :P |
| 00:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:41.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh wait, never mind |
| 00:41.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I have it |
| 00:41.13 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: with the 1 in your email address? |
| 00:41.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, actually |
| 00:42.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, have at it |
| 00:42.49 | MentalPower | j/k |
| 00:42.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I run spam filtering software :P |
| 00:42.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that I don't get that anyways, mind you |
| 00:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | But for a period of about four years I didn't have any spam filters AT ALL, and routinely deleted 400 e-mails a day |
| 00:43.18 | Antiarc | Spam is getting really targeted these days |
| 00:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | So by all means, sign me up, but uh |
| 00:43.29 | Antiarc | I keep getting penis size reduction spam |
| 00:43.31 | Antiarc | >_> |
| 00:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It won't phase me ;) |
| 00:43.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol'ing IRL at that, hahahaha |
| 00:43.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Well done |
| 00:44.15 | Rayne | do do do |
| 00:44.29 | MentalPower | re re re |
| 00:44.43 | WobWork | mi mi mi? |
| 00:45.02 | mikma | lo lo lo! |
| 00:45.19 | WobWork | There's no lo |
| 00:46.03 | mikma | WobWork: http://www.urbanfurnishings.com/images/tahira%20sofa%20l.jpg |
| 00:46.33 | WobWork | That will stain pretty badly |
| 00:46.40 | WobWork | I'd not want to get blood out of that fabric |
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| 00:54.58 | MentalPower | !api GetDamageBonusStat |
| 00:54.59 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: bonusStat = GetDamageBonusStat(); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetDamageBonusStat |
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| 01:01.54 | Rayne | Antiarc: lol I wish I knew why that wouldnt work -_- |
| 01:03.03 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: are you posting that pastey or did you want me to? |
| 01:03.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you probably should, as you can edit the original post |
| 01:03.27 | Cairenn | k |
| 01:03.44 | Tierrie | Cairenn: did you guys get hit by a virus today or something? everyone was so busy in this chat channel |
| 01:04.01 | Cairenn | yes, we did - post on the front page of the site |
| 01:04.21 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.22 | Antiarc | Try that |
| 01:05.13 | Rayne | kk |
| 01:06.01 | Rayne | that did it :) |
| 01:07.22 | Rayne | well |
| 01:07.44 | Tierrie | Cairenn: oh just read it, bummer. hope the person who did it gets AIDS and dies from a truck after a cure for AIDS is found |
| 01:08.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Tierrie: it's the exact *same* trojan as the incgamers one |
| 01:08.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Byte for byte |
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| 01:08.17 | foxlit | gr, symboilic claculators |
| 01:08.32 | Tierrie | Scythe: I quit wow a while ago to focus on my social life :( |
| 01:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Tierrie: :/ |
| 01:08.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Tierrie: social life ftl, RL is overrated |
| 01:09.07 | Tierrie | not second life |
| 01:09.11 | Tierrie | social REAL life |
| 01:09.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:09.57 | Rayne | Antiarc: Just to make sure, the FIRST Set of #s is where the frame will sit in a RAID, and the second one is where it will sit OUTSIDE of it, correct? |
| 01:10.25 | Rayne | Because clicking the macro outside a group / raid only moves it to the area specified in the second set of #s |
| 01:10.45 | Antiarc | Rayne: Yes |
| 01:11.00 | Rayne | ok |
| 01:11.34 | bleeter | Tierrie: heya! and did it improve? was the rep grind worth it? ;) |
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| 01:15.27 | KarlKFI | [You] Crusader Strike Crit [The Curator] *7252* |
| 01:16.07 | Rayne | yummy |
| 01:16.23 | KarlKFI | normally crits 1500-2k |
| 01:16.43 | KarlKFI | evocation + wrath |
| 01:17.10 | foxlit | 25k starfire crit, baby! |
| 01:18.58 | Thunder_Child | 30K SoC crit |
| 01:19.10 | Antiarc | My highest crit ever is a 17k sinister strike |
| 01:19.11 | Thunder_Child | at least i think it's SoC |
| 01:19.22 | Antiarc | But that was on Razuvious, so that's cheating |
| 01:19.27 | foxlit | seal of command or seed of corruption? |
| 01:19.42 | Thunder_Child | heh..damn multi acronyms, seed |
| 01:19.51 | foxlit | Summing over everything it hit? |
| 01:20.04 | Thunder_Child | on curator |
| 01:20.20 | foxlit | Okay, why would it get to 30k? |
| 01:20.40 | Thunder_Child | i have no idea, thats what was reported by our lock |
| 01:20.57 | foxlit | The really fun fight for crit records is bloodboil |
| 01:21.36 | Rayne | Antiarc: Now you give me another task of finding where to hide the button at :< |
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| 01:21.54 | Antiarc | Use SpellBinder and bind it directly to a key combo |
| 01:22.25 | Rayne | Using spellbinder for just that seems silly though |
| 01:22.27 | zenzelezz | Antiarc: did the Instructor ever receive additional damage? I thought it was only his adds when he died? |
| 01:22.32 | Antiarc | His adds, yeah |
| 01:22.50 | Rayne | im wondering if I can parent it to the omen window, and have it autohide... |
| 01:23.23 | Rayne | Thanks again btw :) |
| 01:24.30 | Antiarc | No probn |
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| 01:25.23 | Rayne | Now I just got to remember to put in an FAQ Part about that macro for the next release of BBC |
| 01:25.23 | Rayne | lol |
| 01:27.05 | Rayne | I should start working on that actually. Put in a nice TL DR Readme so people can send me angry emails. :D |
| 01:34.51 | Tem | WOOOOOO |
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| 01:38.45 | Thunder_Child | Tem, play it, dont watch it |
| 01:38.58 | Tem | what huh? |
| 01:39.01 | Thunder_Child | kinda like sex in that regard |
| 01:39.18 | Thunder_Child | SECCG |
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| 01:57.19 | Cairenn | Funkeh`: |
| 01:57.28 | Cairenn | WARNING WARNING WARNING |
| 01:57.28 | Cairenn | (5:14:03 PM) dolby-wowi: if any one wants the infected file let me know |
| 01:57.29 | Cairenn | (5:14:22 PM) Cairenn: scythe was just asking for it in the lounge |
| 01:57.29 | Cairenn | (5:16:58 PM) dolby-wowi: ok 1 sec will make a link |
| 01:57.29 | Cairenn | (5:19:57 PM) dolby-wowi: fs2.wowinterface.com/Sewell_UI_040.ex_infected |
| 01:57.29 | Cairenn | (5:20:02 PM) dolby-wowi: rename to .exe |
| 01:57.47 | Funkeh` | thanks |
| 01:57.59 | nymbia | Funkeh` smells |
| 01:58.07 | ScytheBlade1 | yarly |
| 01:59.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you've probably already seen it, but Slouken posted a thread just recently concerning it |
| 01:59.13 | Cairenn | yup |
| 01:59.42 | zenzelezz | ... so it's 3:00 at night and I can't sleep. I decide to just stay up and write some stuff for a girl, but instead end up fixing up some code... |
| 02:00.34 | zenzelezz | sometimes it just feels fair to be alone |
| 02:05.16 | nymbia | Cairenn: don't you know that the way to go is to deny it and drag your feet in fixing it? get it together! |
| 02:06.02 | Lukian | zenzelezz, hehe |
| 02:06.39 | Cairenn | sorry, we just don't roll that way |
| 02:07.00 | Cairenn | :p |
| 02:07.03 | nymbia | ;) |
| 02:10.46 | Funkeh` | nymbia, weekends over, wheres the quartz commit, bitch |
| 02:11.18 | mikma | :D |
| 02:13.35 | JoshBorke | eh? what quartz commit? |
| 02:13.43 | mikma | Cairenn: see, i told you earlier about the incgamers -approach! |
| 02:13.48 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:18.19 | Cairenn | nom nom nom |
| 02:19.05 | batrick | night al |
| 02:19.05 | batrick | l |
| 02:19.11 | Cairenn | night batrick |
| 02:23.31 | nymbia | Funkeh`: i've gotta figure out whats breaking first ;) |
| 02:25.17 | Thunder_Child | "Fact : guns from the future belong on your person." i would actually say that "guns NOW belong on my person" |
| 02:26.29 | zenzelezz | guns belong in secure locations. Usually this is not with people |
| 02:27.14 | Thunder_Child | i am a secure location, i always hit what i am aming at |
| 02:27.18 | Thunder_Child | aiming* |
| 02:28.51 | zenzelezz | that's not security, that's accuracy |
| 02:29.41 | Thunder_Child | really? try taking a gun from someone who can shoot properly. Thats like trying to rob a police station. |
| 02:32.49 | bleeter | course, the other solution to the virus problem is.. use a non-fucked up OS :P |
| 02:33.39 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, true, but they havent made one yet |
| 02:37.11 | Rayne | wtb new episode of Gundam 00 |
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| 02:43.54 | Antiarc | Cairenn, you're like the anti-Rushster |
| 02:44.01 | Antiarc | You did everything right that he did wrong |
| 02:44.06 | Antiarc | Kudos :) |
| 02:44.11 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 02:44.22 | Cairenn | it's the only proper way to have dealt with it, imo |
| 02:44.28 | Antiarc | Agreed |
| 02:44.50 | Antiarc | Just wanted to encourage you after what I'm sure has been a super stressful day |
| 02:45.10 | Cairenn | not the first time we've quarantined a mod when we had any concerns, won't be the last |
| 02:45.26 | Cairenn | it's appreciated, because it most certainly has been =/ |
| 02:47.02 | Cairenn | gonna have some pissed off authors out of all of this, but what are we to do? =/ |
| 02:47.35 | Cairenn | we were never really happy about allowing .exe or .msi in the first place |
| 02:48.03 | Cairenn | not because we don't trust the authors, but because of precisely what happened |
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| 02:51.11 | Cairenn | dolby-wowi does too |
| 02:52.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you did what you needed to. That's what matters. Crap happens. |
| 02:52.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone getting ahold of Nethera's username and password, anyone? |
| 02:53.22 | Cairenn | meanwhile, I'm trying to deal with all this and get ready to go away for 3 days on Tuesday at the same time =/ |
| 02:53.57 | Cairenn | but want to have this as cleaned up as possible before I disappear on dolby-wowi for those days |
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| 02:57.18 | Cairenn | art3mis: I may not have your hat done after all |
| 03:00.59 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, make him finish it |
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| 03:09.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: ping |
| 03:09.21 | Antiarc | pong |
| 03:09.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Need you to test something with me real quick |
| 03:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Should be self explanatory |
| 03:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Er, lowercase L |
| 03:13.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, wtf, I didn't get infected that time.. |
| 03:13.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:15.46 | Antiarc | I'm in a raid |
| 03:15.52 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not infecting me anymore... |
| 03:15.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, then no worries |
| 03:16.11 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, looks like you built up an imunity |
| 03:16.12 | Antiarc | do you have a debugger running? |
| 03:16.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 03:16.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, there we go |
| 03:16.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I just downloaded updata.exe manually and ran it :P |
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| 03:20.25 | ScytheBlade1 | If I could get one brave soul to go infect their own selves right now and then run my batch file in safe mode and report the results, it would be greatly appreciated |
| 03:21.38 | Thunder_Child | i really do need to get that quarantine machine up and running like i was going to |
| 03:22.38 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shadowed (n=outlaw@12.157.177.162) |
| 03:40.42 | dolby-wowi | I got vmware with winxp, just wont be near that machine until 11:30pm cst |
| 03:41.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:42.03 | ScytheBlade1 | If you could give that a test whenever, it'd just be nice to have someone else saying "this won't kill your computer..." |
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| 03:43.12 | dolby-wowi | will do |
| 03:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a simple batch file + registry export of known good settings |
| 03:43.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Hard to get any more simplistic than that |
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| 03:46.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: quit stalking me on the forums! :P |
| 03:46.57 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 03:47.06 | Cairenn | btw - there's 2 that are getting it |
| 03:47.20 | ScytheBlade1 | AntiVir and.. ? |
| 03:47.20 | *** part/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 03:47.29 | Cairenn | ClamScan, according to bleeter |
| 03:48.20 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kody- (n=kody@adsl-75-7-9-31.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:50.25 | Cairenn | hi Kody |
| 03:50.29 | Kody- | Hi |
| 03:50.38 | Kody- | Sorry to hear about what happened :/ |
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| 03:50.53 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 03:50.55 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.57 | |Jelly| | LOL @ SHRIG |
| 03:51.36 | Cairenn | what a completely shitty day, pardon my english |
| 03:51.53 | Cairenn | okay, lemme see if I can find you that link kody |
| 03:52.02 | Kody- | Alright, thanks |
| 03:52.11 | Cairenn | here we go: |
| 03:52.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Actally |
| 03:52.13 | Cairenn | (8:57:18 PM) Cairenn: WARNING WARNING WARNING |
| 03:52.14 | Cairenn | (8:57:19 PM) Cairenn: (5:14:03 PM) dolby-wowi: if any one wants the infected file let me know |
| 03:52.14 | Cairenn | (8:57:19 PM) Cairenn: (5:14:22 PM) Cairenn: scythe was just asking for it in the lounge |
| 03:52.14 | Cairenn | (8:57:19 PM) Cairenn: (5:16:58 PM) dolby-wowi: ok 1 sec will make a link |
| 03:52.14 | Cairenn | (8:57:19 PM) Cairenn: (5:19:57 PM) dolby-wowi: fs2.wowinterface.com/Sewell_UI_040.ex_infected |
| 03:52.14 | Cairenn | (8:57:19 PM) Cairenn: (5:20:02 PM) dolby-wowi: rename to .exe |
| 03:52.22 | Tierrie | alert alert! |
| 03:52.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Kody-: you looking for the virus DLLs/EXEs or that? |
| 03:52.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And sorry, I just noticed your PM |
| 03:53.08 | Kody- | That's fine, doing to forward it on to some folks to make sure they're detecting it/can look into it |
| 03:53.09 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1 or Antiarc can probably give you the link to the version of it that incgamers had |
| 03:53.12 | Kody- | err, going to* |
| 03:53.13 | ScytheBlade1 | We only know of two AVs that are picking it up |
| 03:53.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Kody-: then forward this on: http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW-Keylogger/ |
| 03:53.30 | Cairenn | along with the website they were able to trace it back to, etc |
| 03:53.34 | ScytheBlade1 | keylogger/keylogger |
| 03:53.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the installer + a zip of the "bad" files |
| 03:54.06 | Kody- | Alright |
| 03:54.27 | Cairenn | |Jelly|: that'd be because we don't just blow it off with a "couldn't possibly have come from us" whenever we get reports of something like this |
| 03:54.40 | Cairenn | *especially* not in the same week that another site just got hit |
| 03:54.52 | Cairenn | that'd just be stupid |
| 03:55.19 | Nom- | vroom vroom |
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| 03:55.35 | |Jelly| | I wasn't meaning to get you riled up, Cairenn. :P |
| 03:55.41 | Cairenn | you didn't |
| 03:55.49 | |Jelly| | Well.. |
| 03:55.50 | |Jelly| | ...GOOD! |
| 03:56.39 | Tierrie | I'll rile Cairenn up! boobies boobies boobis |
| 03:56.46 | Tierrie | Now she's turned on |
| 03:57.02 | Cairenn | nope |
| 03:57.10 | Tierrie | ah well, one of us is anyway |
| 03:57.14 | Antiarc | Kody-: Look for NDIS installers |
| 03:57.18 | Antiarc | They're hitting those, looks like |
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| 03:57.30 | Lonny | Hmm I can't find the Ace3 framework anywhere, where can I find it ? :| |
| 03:57.40 | MentalPower | Antiarc: NSIS you mean? |
| 03:57.44 | Antiarc | Yes. >_> |
| 03:57.44 | Tierrie | hey whats this about NDIS? |
| 03:57.47 | Tierrie | oh ok |
| 03:57.55 | Tierrie | if it was NDIS I might lend some help since I know quite abit about it |
| 03:58.01 | Tierrie | but its NSIS so, back to being a cheerleader |
| 03:58.09 | Tierrie | hip hip hoorah! |
| 04:00.28 | art3mis | avg doesnt find it btw |
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| 04:00.50 | Antiarc | AntiVir does >_> |
| 04:00.52 | art3mis | i bet nod32 would though ;P |
| 04:02.04 | art3mis | well this is mildly irritating |
| 04:02.24 | Thunder_Child | woot, finished my second game today |
| 04:02.41 | art3mis | the client that had the win netowkring issues and got his files zero'd somehow feels it's my fault because i reccomended syncback |
| 04:03.40 | art3mis | after i spent 3 days and 4 hours in travel recovering his files and picking up and returning his drive |
| 04:03.47 | Thunder_Child | it is your fault, not because you recomended that program, but because you know computers |
| 04:04.03 | art3mis | yeah appearantly |
| 04:04.04 | Thunder_Child | and therefor could have prevented said issue |
| 04:04.24 | Thunder_Child | since in regards to computer you are somehoe omnipotent |
| 04:04.31 | Thunder_Child | err... somehow |
| 04:05.25 | Guillotine | so our guild just killed A'lar with 2 people left alive |
| 04:05.41 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, was HT there? |
| 04:05.44 | Guillotine | yes |
| 04:05.47 | Thunder_Child | did he die? |
| 04:05.55 | Guillotine | he was one of the two left alive :P |
| 04:05.59 | Guillotine | since he was tanking adds |
| 04:06.08 | Thunder_Child | heh, no bitching for him about repairs then |
| 04:06.16 | art3mis | ive decided that im not going to email him back right now my response is gonna be something along the lines of "alright thats fine, find a new tech to deal with you and your problems im not going to be held responsible for anythig that goes wrong because i might have suggested something" |
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| 04:09.05 | Guillotine | I just came up with the greatest idea ever. I'm going to make an addon named "backups" in order to mess with all the auto-addon-updaters that put their backup folder directly in the addons folder |
| 04:09.23 | Lonny | Hmm I can't find the Ace3 framework anywhere, where can I find it ? :| |
| 04:11.10 | dylanm | branches |
| 04:11.29 | Thunder_Child | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/ |
| 04:11.42 | Lonny | Thanks mate! :) |
| 04:11.47 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 04:13.27 | MentalPower | Cairenn: http://www.virustotal.com/resultado.html?eacd3ec3a0811b1cfb179c48ecf08549 |
| 04:13.35 | MentalPower | a few more AVs are now detecting the trojan |
| 04:13.40 | Cairenn | good |
| 04:13.59 | MentalPower | that was feeding them ScytheBlade1's keylogger.zip file |
| 04:14.35 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.36 | Cairenn | the more people/companies that are aware of it, the better it is for everyone (except the slimeballs, and we don't want it to be good for them) |
| 04:15.16 | MentalPower | that website sends files to the AV companies, so they should be coming out with updated signature files that detect it soonish |
| 04:15.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Good to know |
| 04:15.44 | Guillotine | virustotal is so great |
| 04:16.03 | Cairenn | nice |
| 04:18.17 | Rayne | crap... |
| 04:18.35 | Rayne | Antiarc: it worked once and now its broken lol |
| 04:20.22 | Rayne | wtf :( |
| 04:20.35 | Guillotine | I just realized, as more and more anti virus companies get this, it gets harder and harder to give to other antivirus companies since its getting quarantined as its sent |
| 04:20.43 | Guillotine | for the people not using their own mail server at least |
| 04:21.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ;P |
| 04:22.08 | Rayne | crap :/ |
| 04:22.20 | Guillotine | I use gmail for most things, but use my own every so often as well |
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| 04:23.53 | Rayne | what about this is wrong... /run ir=UnitInRaid("player") or 2; pos={{1100,115}, {1310,112}}; db=Omen.db.profile; db.PositionX, db.PositionY = pos[ir][1], pos[ir][2]; Omen:SetAnchors(true); |
| 04:24.07 | Rayne | it worked earlier, and now it wont. :/ |
| 04:24.24 | cladhaire | does SetAnchors() run ClearAllPoints()? |
| 04:24.57 | MentalPower | I just sent it to my AV company (McAfee) |
| 04:24.57 | Rayne | I have -NO- Idea, Antiarc worked it up for me |
| 04:25.04 | Antiarc | Yes, it does |
| 04:25.06 | MentalPower | I should hear more about it tomorrow |
| 04:25.10 | Antiarc | It's Omen's positioning routine |
| 04:25.22 | cladhaire | figured as much, but obvious things first :P |
| 04:25.23 | Rayne | But yeah it worked before, now its not. :/ |
| 04:25.33 | Antiarc | Oh, I see |
| 04:25.50 | Antiarc | Use (UnitInRaid("player") and 1) or 2 |
| 04:26.42 | Rayne | ok let me verify. |
| 04:26.55 | Rayne | it will move the frame when im OUT of a raid but not when im IN a raid |
| 04:27.07 | Antiarc | That's what it fixes |
| 04:27.11 | Rayne | ok |
| 04:27.11 | Antiarc | The wowwiki doc is wrong |
| 04:27.31 | Tem | cladhaire, afaik, there is no SetAnchors? |
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| 04:27.40 | clad|sleep | Tem: its an Omen function |
| 04:27.46 | clad|sleep | not a frame method |
| 04:27.46 | Rayne | so instead of ir=UnitInRaid("player") or 2 its (UnitInRaid("player") and 1) or 2 ? |
| 04:27.53 | Antiarc | Yes, Rayne |
| 04:27.55 | Rayne | ok |
| 04:28.06 | Tem | oh |
| 04:28.08 | Tem | shitfail |
| 04:28.33 | Rayne | nope, didnt work :/ |
| 04:28.58 | Antiarc | Paste the full thing for me |
| 04:29.12 | Rayne | Antiarc" /run UnitInRaid("player") and 1) or 2; pos={{1100,115}, {1310,112}}; db=Omen.db.profile; db.PositionX, db.PositionY = pos[ir][1], pos[ir][2]; Omen:SetAnchors(true); |
| 04:29.17 | Rayne | brb need a drink |
| 04:29.26 | Antiarc | You're missing the ir = |
| 04:30.11 | clad|sleep | is this actually funny..or am i delirious?: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/02/how-to-lose-in-alterac-valley/ |
| 04:31.37 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.38 | Rayne | testing it |
| 04:31.39 | Antiarc | That's what you want |
| 04:31.52 | Rayne | yup that did it :) thanks again |
| 04:32.58 | Guillotine | clad: lol |
| 04:33.03 | Guillotine | unfortunately, its so true :( |
| 04:33.08 | Guillotine | especially the armchair general part |
| 04:33.23 | clad|sleep | yeah it is |
| 04:33.25 | clad|sleep | i was laughing a lot |
| 04:33.27 | clad|sleep | but i'm so tired |
| 04:33.32 | clad|sleep | i wanted to make sure it was actually funny |
| 04:33.42 | art3mis | he forgot a very special horde tip |
| 04:34.01 | Antiarc | Rayne: Note that that macro is a little leaky |
| 04:34.05 | Antiarc | So you aren't going to want to mash it a ton |
| 04:34.14 | Antiarc | I mean, a dozen times in a session is fine |
| 04:34.17 | art3mis | "dont forget to cap snowfall cuz lord knows that taking ALL the gy's and making it bottle neck at SP gy is totally worth it, more HK's more HP |
| 04:34.19 | Rayne | lol |
| 04:34.21 | Antiarc | But you don't want it firing off all crazy-like |
| 04:34.33 | Rayne | Ill keep that in mind :P |
| 04:36.57 | Intangir_ | how do i do saved variables? |
| 04:37.43 | Intangir_ | how do i save variables for my addon.. |
| 04:39.34 | Cairenn | brb, system reboot |
| 04:40.47 | Xinhuan | whoa nice, slouken praised wowi :) |
| 04:46.03 | Wobwork | "SixApart tonight announced the sale of journal/blogging service Livejournal to Russia-based SUP" |
| 04:46.20 | Wobwork | <cue "In soviet Russia" joke> |
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| 04:59.31 | Thunder_Child | umm....in soviet russia journal writes you? |
| 05:05.25 | bleeter | Cairenn: well, I guess the *up* side of all this is that the Launcher will prolly detect it in 2.3.2 =) |
| 05:05.42 | Cairenn | yeah, I guess |
| 05:07.40 | ScytheBlade1 | You're a better person with more stringent security policies which will ensure future happpiness for your end users |
| 05:07.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That was easy. :P |
| 05:08.00 | Thunder_Child | damn, ScytheBlade1 beat me to it |
| 05:08.08 | Thunder_Child | well minus the better person part |
| 05:08.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:09.30 | Thunder_Child | actually the upside would be that after this most anything else will be minor by comparison thereby less likely to mess up your trip |
| 05:11.53 | Cairenn | I appreciate it guys |
| 05:14.30 | Thunder_Child | odd...why does *.exe return .pdf |
| 05:14.35 | Thunder_Child | in a search |
| 05:14.45 | Codayus | Other upside: Having similar problems afflict two major UI sites at the same time makes it easy to do a "compare and contrast" of their reactions. |
| 05:15.13 | Codayus | ...and I think one of the UI sites came out better than the other, no? :-) |
| 05:15.44 | Cairenn | well, you just know that the cynics out there are gonna say "that's because they saw what happened with incgamers response" :p |
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| 05:15.55 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 05:15.56 | Codayus | Maybe |
| 05:16.38 | |Jelly| | *haven't been reading the conversation* Kam and I were laughing at how little shit you've caught compared to them last week. |
| 05:16.59 | |Jelly| | It's amazing what doing the right thing can do. |
| 05:17.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, no joke. |
| 05:17.29 | Codayus | But...if you can't work out what the right response is without looking at a cheat sheet, why are you even in the business? Being the first to find out they'd been compromised is NO excuse for incgamers. |
| 05:18.50 | Cairenn | for the record, in case anyone in here has any doubts whatsoever - it wouldn't have mattered if the fiasco with incgamers hadn't happened, our response would still have been exactly what it was (although I know you guys already know that) |
| 05:20.29 | Codayus | Yeah, don't think there's too many people around who honestly doubt that. |
| 05:20.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait a few hours for people to wake up though |
| 05:20.43 | Codayus | (Key word - honestly. I'm sure there are trolls around.) |
| 05:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | The forums will start hopping, I'd imagine |
| 05:21.36 | |Jelly| | And we'll show them a side by side comparison of good damage control versus shitty damage control. |
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| 05:22.28 | ccox | don't get too superior -- lest someone gets the idea to put you in your place |
| 05:22.51 | |Jelly| | You obviously don't know me very well. |
| 05:22.59 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 05:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Jelly here is how you would define... well, a lot of things |
| 05:23.25 | Thunder_Child | but if it comes down to it we will make Kam put |Jelly| in his place |
| 05:23.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Hard to pick one |
| 05:23.30 | ccox | (aka: don't tell ME that your routers are unhackable, or you'll get an object lesson :-) |
| 05:23.43 | Thunder_Child | preferably with a strong right hook |
| 05:24.01 | Codayus | *shrug* Good damage control isn't something that can be proven wrong, if it exists. |
| 05:24.05 | |Jelly| | I couldn't give a shit less if someone /thinks/ they're "putting me in my place" but they better bring a lunch in this situation because I'm not going to back down. |
| 05:24.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Verbose. |
| 05:24.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a good word to describe him. |
| 05:24.25 | Codayus | Or good customer service. |
| 05:24.35 | Thunder_Child | s/lunch/a meal/ ( well it could be after/before lunch) |
| 05:25.01 | ccox | good damage control should stand on it's own, without bragging |
| 05:25.23 | ccox | good customer service, ok, that may need a little bragging |
| 05:25.49 | ccox | but the minute you start comparing, you make yourself a target |
| 05:26.04 | Codayus | Heh |
| 05:26.06 | Wobwork | There doesn't need to be a side by side comparison |
| 05:26.06 | Codayus | Tru! |
| 05:26.12 | |Jelly| | [23:21]<|Jelly|>You obviously don't know me very well. |
| 05:26.15 | Wobwork | It's not a contest =P |
| 05:26.30 | Wobwork | Just outlined -what- was done by WowI |
| 05:26.38 | Wobwork | and apologies offered |
| 05:26.49 | Wobwork | and everyone will make their own judgements |
| 05:27.05 | Cairenn | I'm not interested in a pissing match |
| 05:27.09 | Wobwork | exactly |
| 05:27.11 | Codayus | In principle. But I'm not sure i'd worry about comparing incgamers and WoWI straight up... In any case, I don't think incgamers was even mentioned, so...not relevant. |
| 05:27.11 | Wobwork | there's no point |
| 05:27.25 | Wobwork | precisely, it's not relevant |
| 05:27.39 | Wobwork | Wowi and incgamers aren't locked in some epic battle for users |
| 05:27.47 | Codayus | *snort* |
| 05:27.52 | |Jelly| | Apparently you all missed what started this. They're waiting for people to try to troll Cairenn when in the end, Cairenn did what was right regardless of what the trolls might think. |
| 05:28.00 | Wobwork | well, from wowi's perspective |
| 05:28.05 | Codayus | I know. |
| 05:28.42 | Codayus | Just...a funny idea. |
| 05:28.42 | Cairenn | anyway, I'm just being pessimistic and crap, been a tough day |
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| 05:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Trollin' Trollin' Trollin'! |
| 05:28.51 | Wobwork | Codayus: Clowns? |
| 05:29.05 | Wobwork | Get those dogies trollin'? |
| 05:29.06 | Codayus | They're not funny, they're scary. |
| 05:29.10 | Wobwork | it's true =( |
| 05:29.12 | reqol | is it easier to create gui elements with XML or lua assuming you have no background knowledge of either (for LUA i mean no knowledge of widgeting) |
| 05:29.13 | krka | reqol: Lua is not an acronym. It is a portuguese word that means moon. |
| 05:29.24 | Kandoko | Is there a mod that can list the global var a mod adds/has? Was thinking snapshot _G with mod disabled, then enabled to check and see if there are some missed things that should be local? |
| 05:29.26 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:29.30 | Wobwork | gogo krkabot |
| 05:29.33 | reqol | :( |
| 05:29.37 | MentalPower | ~wedgie |
| 05:29.38 | purl | ACTION hangs a-atwood from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 05:29.45 | Codayus | But no, just the whole idea of wowi in a desperate battle with incgamers for users and public opinion. |
| 05:29.47 | MentalPower | ~wedgie foo |
| 05:29.48 | purl | ACTION hangs foo from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 05:29.48 | Wobwork | woah, random wedgie |
| 05:30.27 | Wobwork | FLASH! |
| 05:30.27 | Wobwork | AAAAHHHH |
| 05:30.27 | Wobwork | Saviour of the.. UNIVERSE! |
| 05:30.41 | Wobwork | (dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun...) |
| 05:31.23 | ccox | dude, that movie is older than most of the people in the room! |
| 05:31.50 | ccox | (and they don't use the actual music in the pathetic SciFi series) |
| 05:32.44 | ccox | (and, I have the soundtrack on vinyl :-) |
| 05:33.12 | MentalPower | vinyl, thats something you use for flooring right? :P |
| 05:35.59 | reqol | how can I save something right before the player logs out? |
| 05:36.14 | reqol | nvm |
| 05:36.17 | Cairenn | NightHawkTheSane: what a waste of good vinyl! |
| 05:36.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn: well, you could use bad vinyl? i mean, it couldn't have ALL been good :P |
| 05:36.39 | reqol | I'm guessing I use the event PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD ? |
| 05:36.49 | Wobwork | Queen is timeless =) |
| 05:36.55 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 05:37.05 | Cairenn | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, but do you know how much vinyl goes for these days? |
| 05:37.21 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. >< |
| 05:37.31 | Cairenn | with the poster and everything |
| 05:37.57 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:38.56 | bleeter | Cairenn: do you have the disco version of the Star Wars theme on 12" vinyl? 'coz that's hardcore ;) |
| 05:39.18 | Thunder_Child | not exactly sure why you have it it any format |
| 05:39.33 | Thunder_Child | s/it a/in a/ |
| 05:40.06 | bleeter | 'coz Meco is a bloody genius! |
| 05:40.51 | bleeter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_and_Other_Galactic_Funk |
| 05:41.31 | MentalPower | reqol: PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 05:42.45 | reqol | MentalPower: I saw that and then read "Note: There seems to be little useful you can do after this event is fired. Changes to saved variables do not seem to have any effect..." is this wrong? |
| 05:42.55 | MentalPower | yes it is |
| 05:42.58 | reqol | okay, cool. |
| 05:42.59 | reqol | thanks |
| 05:43.24 | MentalPower | unless you have certain Ace2 libs (very old versions) that seem to break PLAYER_LOGOUT for an as of yet unkown reason |
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| 05:45.11 | reqol | could anyone point me in the direction of a tutorial on saved variables? |
| 05:45.34 | MentalPower | kd3|still`lagged: I'll wait for the online stream |
| 05:47.40 | reqol | also, could I get a bit of help from someone else regarding counting time in-game? |
| 05:47.48 | Wobwor1 | oh hey, internet is bck |
| 05:48.05 | reqol | essentially what I want to do is count time whenever someone is in a certain zone, and then when they leave it, stop counting |
| 05:48.20 | reqol | so that I can compile in a variable the amount of total time they have spent in that zone |
| 05:48.52 | MentalPower | err... time() |
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| 05:49.17 | MentalPower | in the zone change event, query time() and subtract it from the time the person entered the zone |
| 05:49.43 | reqol | yeah |
| 05:50.02 | reqol | so, then how would I save that to a saved variable? |
| 05:50.13 | Lonny | reqol: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions it's quite old but might help you get the idea ? |
| 05:51.03 | MentalPower | reqol: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions bah Lonny beat me to it |
| 05:51.14 | Lonny | :D |
| 05:51.22 | bleeter | and for the record, I have the disco mix of Close Encounters & Star Wars theme here... somewhere :/ |
| 05:51.27 | reqol | so I put the name of the variable on the #SavedVariables line? |
| 05:52.43 | MentalPower | yes |
| 05:52.52 | MentalPower | and it needs to be a global variable |
| 05:57.13 | dolby-wowi | ScytheBlade1 removed the 3 files (mouse.dll, printfpool.exe and wzcsvbc.dll) on my vmware test setup. looks good |
| 05:57.32 | reqol | can I run an if then statement outside of any functions |
| 05:58.07 | MentalPower | yes |
| 05:58.10 | Lonny | Should be possible imo |
| 05:58.49 | reqol | sorry for this dumb question, it's quick and I don't wanna look up the pil for it, in a table X.blah refers to blah as a STRING right? |
| 05:59.05 | MentalPower | yes |
| 05:59.10 | ScytheBlade1 | dolby-wowi: good, could you post that on the thread? |
| 05:59.11 | reqol | thanks! |
| 05:59.18 | dolby-wowi | sure thing |
| 05:59.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 05:59.22 | MentalPower | X.blah == X["blah"] |
| 06:01.35 | Fisker- | i'm impressed |
| 06:03.50 | Nom- | OMG |
| 06:03.53 | Nom- | Google Maps is HOT |
| 06:06.39 | reqol | is it good convention to use if not var instead of if var = nil? |
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| 06:06.42 | Nom- | You can drag stuff around to change the route |
| 06:06.55 | Nom- | So if you don't want to go down a particular road, you can drag the route around so you don't go down that road |
| 06:06.58 | Nom- | and the direction update |
| 06:07.41 | MentalPower | reqol: the former is slightly faster, but also catches false |
| 06:08.47 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, ya |
| 06:08.52 | reqol | I'm guessing the pil is the best place to look up on iterating through tables, right? I just wanna use a continually incrementing number as a STRING for the key |
| 06:08.53 | Fisker- | btw Cairenn |
| 06:08.56 | Fisker- | is it ok that i gloat? :I |
| 06:08.57 | Cairenn | yeah? |
| 06:09.03 | Cairenn | about what? |
| 06:09.12 | Fisker- | your virus :( |
| 06:09.25 | Cairenn | if you want to gloat, go for it, you have the right |
| 06:09.40 | Fisker- | I was extremely disappointed that there wasn't a reply for Rushter saying "Lololol n00bs" |
| 06:09.44 | Fisker- | :D |
| 06:09.51 | Fisker- | from* |
| 06:09.59 | Cairenn | I doubt that there will be |
| 06:10.06 | Cairenn | we didn't gloat all over him having it |
| 06:10.13 | Fisker- | nah |
| 06:10.13 | MentalPower | reqol: why? |
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| 06:10.28 | Fisker- | but he seems to be the kind of person who'd want to gloat over something like that |
| 06:10.42 | reqol | because |
| 06:10.42 | Cairenn | I don't think he would /shrug |
| 06:10.49 | reqol | and please tell me if there is a ebtter approach to this |
| 06:11.02 | reqol | I'm determing the faction and then setting up a table of all the major cities corresponding to that faction |
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| 06:11.12 | reqol | using Var.Cities.1 and so forth |
| 06:11.13 | reqol | up til 5 |
| 06:11.14 | Fisker- | Didn't know you accepted .exe files to begin with btw |
| 06:11.27 | reqol | and I'd like to be able to iterate through it later and see if any of them match |
| 06:11.27 | Fisker- | What about .zip files will the server check for .exe files in the zip file? |
| 06:11.30 | Fisker- | and so forth? |
| 06:11.38 | MentalPower | reqol: how are you populating the list? |
| 06:12.08 | reqol | if UnitFactionGroup("player") = "Horde" then and then it goes down and sets them all up |
| 06:12.23 | reqol | ==* |
| 06:12.59 | MentalPower | how are you getting the list of cities? |
| 06:13.12 | reqol | I'm putting them in myself |
| 06:13.15 | reqol | am I doing something stupid here? |
| 06:13.22 | dolby-wowi | Updated Cairenns thread ScytheBlade1 with the file and info you had in the wow forums |
| 06:13.34 | reqol | as in |
| 06:13.40 | reqol | Vars.Cities.1 = "Orgrimmar" |
| 06:14.23 | MentalPower | Vars.Cities = { "Oggrimar", "Thunder Bluff", "Undercity"} |
| 06:14.53 | reqol | oh, I forgot about using the constructor |
| 06:14.56 | reqol | shoot |
| 06:15.05 | reqol | durr |
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| 06:15.37 | MentalPower | and that way you can just use ipairs(Vars.Cities) |
| 06:16.12 | reqol | thanks a bunch |
| 06:16.41 | MentalPower | lua> Vars = { Cities = { "Oggrimar", "Thunder Bluff", "Undercity"}} for index, city in ipairs(Vars.Cities) do print(city) end |
| 06:16.41 | lua_bot | MentalPower: Oggrimar, Thunder Bluff, Undercity |
| 06:17.00 | Coldfury | hey guys, small question, whats the sign for Is Not. like "if value1 is not value2 do blabla" |
| 06:17.10 | Cairenn | ~= |
| 06:17.15 | Cairenn | if you mean in lua |
| 06:17.16 | Thunder_Child | i hate that |
| 06:17.19 | Coldfury | yeah in lua |
| 06:17.23 | Coldfury | thanks |
| 06:17.24 | reqol | is |
| 06:17.25 | Thunder_Child | i like the other use of ~= |
| 06:17.25 | MentalPower | and Cairenn wins the prize! |
| 06:17.28 | Cairenn | != in many other languages |
| 06:17.31 | reqol | is it "The Exodar" or "Exodar" |
| 06:17.35 | NightHawkTheSane | I get it confused with purl substitution |
| 06:17.40 | MentalPower | reqol: The Exodar |
| 06:17.53 | art3mis | hrm |
| 06:18.09 | art3mis | well found solutions for a replacement for my network streaming box |
| 06:18.13 | art3mis | yay! |
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| 06:18.34 | Cairenn | wb Kody |
| 06:18.42 | Cairenn | - |
| 06:19.03 | Coldfury | and can i do something like " if value1 ~= value2 or value3 do blabla " or i neeed value1 ~= value2 and value1 ~= value3 do.. |
| 06:19.31 | art3mis | now all i need is a web based interaction for the servers ;) |
| 06:19.38 | MentalPower | Coldfury: the secong |
| 06:19.42 | MentalPower | s/g/d/ |
| 06:20.06 | Coldfury | kk thanks |
| 06:20.11 | MentalPower | Coldfury: tho be careful |
| 06:20.50 | MentalPower | lua> return "value1" ~= "value2" and "value1"~= "value3" |
| 06:20.50 | lua_bot | MentalPower: true |
| 06:20.59 | MentalPower | hmm... |
| 06:21.12 | MentalPower | lua> return "value1" ~= "value2" and "value1" |
| 06:21.12 | lua_bot | MentalPower: value1 |
| 06:21.23 | MentalPower | thats what I wanted |
| 06:21.34 | MentalPower | wanted to show that is |
| 06:23.59 | reqol | I'm using an if then, should I do it like (if then and this then) and then another after as an elseif or do if event == blah, and then inside that if use another nested if then |
| 06:24.36 | Fisker- | btw |
| 06:24.39 | Fisker- | i'm John Lua |
| 06:24.42 | Fisker- | i made Lua |
| 06:24.48 | Fisker- | hence my name |
| 06:26.20 | Wobwor1 | So you were named after the language. |
| 06:26.26 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 06:26.28 | Wobwor1 | Well done =P |
| 06:26.34 | Fisker- | the language was made by me :( |
| 06:26.38 | Fisker- | i'm JOHN LUA |
| 06:26.38 | krka | Fisker-: Lua is not an acronym. It is a portuguese word that means moon. |
| 06:26.44 | Wobwor1 | ahaha |
| 06:26.49 | Wobwor1 | pwnd by the bot =) |
| 06:26.51 | Fisker- | My surname isn't an acronym either |
| 06:27.28 | reqol | MentalPower: what function should I use for time? GetTime() returns the time since booting up. is this sufficient? can you think of any cases where this would not work? |
| 06:27.34 | Fisker- | http://www.garry.tv/?p=386 |
| 06:27.49 | Tierrie | dude if your name was john lua, mine is Jerry Slicedbread |
| 06:27.54 | MentalPower | reqol: time() is better, since you don't need sub-second precision |
| 06:28.02 | Wobwor1 | reqol: Well, if you reboot, are you really worried about how long you stay in the zone? |
| 06:28.09 | Fisker- | oh and Lua = moonspeak |
| 06:28.10 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 06:29.10 | reqol | Wobwor1: I'm handling on logout, right now I'm worried about how I'll deal if WoW errors or is closed by other means, IS there anyway to handle it or am I SOL? I'm guessing I should just save every 5 minutes or so, that way I won't lose all that much time |
| 06:29.36 | reqol | but how would I do something like that every 5 minutes? |
| 06:32.38 | Lonny | I guess you should handle an OnUpdate even but maybe there's a better approach :P |
| 06:32.44 | Lonny | event* |
| 06:34.40 | wereHamster | krka, if you can't write Lua in capital letters, how do you shout Lua? |
| 06:35.30 | bleeter | Wobwor1: using Linux? |
| 06:35.45 | bleeter | Wobwor1: oh, nm me, I misread |
| 06:39.20 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: ping? |
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| 06:46.32 | Cairenn | Antiarc, ScytheBlade1 - anyone still have links to the trojan as it first appeared on incgamers? |
| 06:46.48 | Antiarc | yeah, sec |
| 06:46.56 | Antiarc | flagrunning in WSG :) |
| 06:47.03 | Cairenn | np |
| 06:47.19 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_120207_235752.jpg still working on the Grid setup |
| 06:48.25 | Cairenn | getting them into Blizzard hands a little more directly than just via the @hacks addy |
| 06:48.33 | Cairenn | errr, hacks@, rather |
| 06:49.01 | Lonny | Is there any removal program available ? |
| 06:49.28 | Cairenn | (not that that way is bad, but the more we make sure they've got it, the better |
| 06:49.29 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=13868 |
| 06:49.44 | Cairenn | Lonny: ScytheBlade1 provided a batch file |
| 06:49.59 | Lonny | Ah nice :) |
| 06:50.00 | Cairenn | it's attached to the very first post, along with instructions in the post itself |
| 06:50.25 | Lonny | Thought of doing one but it's already done haha :P |
| 06:50.30 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:51.51 | Lonny | btw, I do have a program on WoWi supplied with the source code would it be removed ? : |
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| 06:53.17 | Lonny | Or it's only the UI packages you're after ? |
| 06:53.27 | Cairenn | what program? |
| 06:53.32 | Lonny | WoWLoader |
| 06:53.37 | Cairenn | (link?) |
| 06:53.46 | Lonny | 1 sec |
| 06:53.52 | Cairenn | ah, nm, got it |
| 06:54.00 | Cairenn | no, we're leaving that alone for now |
| 06:54.06 | Lonny | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6663-WoWLoader.html |
| 06:55.00 | Cairenn | utilities are being left alone |
| 06:55.09 | Lonny | ah ok :)) |
| 06:55.15 | Cairenn | for now, at least |
| 06:55.17 | Lonny | great |
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| 06:56.00 | Lonny | Really shame that people use their power to destory, ah we are humans it's in our nature *not* : |
| 06:56.03 | Lonny | :| |
| 06:56.17 | reqol | where is the utility I can run my script through to see if it has any syntax errors? |
| 06:56.33 | Cairenn | web browser |
| 06:56.35 | Cairenn | :p |
| 06:56.56 | Cairenn | (no, I'm not kidding) |
| 06:57.17 | reqol | aye, I'll hunt then :) should not be too hard to find and I might as well not become dependent on you guys |
| 06:57.40 | Cairenn | no no no, I meant that LITERALLY, not figuratively |
| 06:57.45 | reqol | oh |
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| 06:57.57 | Cairenn | you can load your file in IE or FF and if it isn't done right, it'll tell you |
| 06:58.07 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 06:58.10 | reqol | how would I go about that? |
| 06:58.15 | Cairenn | sorry, I didn't make myself clear |
| 06:58.25 | Cairenn | File > Open File |
| 06:58.44 | reqol | durr, haha, my bad |
| 06:58.53 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:59.01 | Cairenn | it's a quick and cheap little trick |
| 06:59.14 | Cairenn | using your web browser to verify your file |
| 06:59.32 | reqol | I still haven't quite gotten used to not declaring return types yet |
| 06:59.36 | reqol | as well as variables not being typed |
| 06:59.41 | MentalPower | err... huh? |
| 06:59.47 | reqol | ? |
| 06:59.58 | NightHawkTheSane | variables are typed, just not strongly. |
| 07:00.04 | MentalPower | Cairenn: since when can FF read Lua? |
| 07:00.06 | reqol | aye |
| 07:00.12 | reqol | you know what I mean though |
| 07:00.24 | reqol | though it's good to be precise |
| 07:00.29 | Cairenn | xml |
| 07:00.52 | MentalPower | ah right XML |
| 07:00.53 | reqol | yeah, this is for lua ;p |
| 07:01.08 | reqol | I was sure I saw a utility like that on wowi |
| 07:01.26 | MentalPower | reqol: you can either use WoW or you can DL the standalone Lua interpreter |
| 07:02.00 | Lonny | or Visual Studio / Notepad++ ? :P |
| 07:02.03 | Cairenn | sorry about that reqol =/ |
| 07:02.24 | MentalPower | Cairenn: tis ok, you had me checking my FF for hidden features :P |
| 07:02.54 | reqol | it's no problem :) |
| 07:03.03 | reqol | I use notepad++ |
| 07:03.12 | Cairenn | I wasn't wrong though - you can check your syntax in FF .... for xml, that is |
| 07:03.24 | Lonny | Ah great :) |
| 07:03.53 | MentalPower | reqol: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5300-Lua5.1.1WoW.html |
| 07:04.08 | MentalPower | after you DL that, you can do lua -p yourFile.lua |
| 07:04.17 | MentalPower | and it will tell you any parse errors |
| 07:04.43 | Cairenn | (that particular download category is all about dev tools) |
| 07:04.48 | Rayne | I need Hals webpage |
| 07:07.18 | reqol | it's telling me I need to close this function I already have closed, what could be causing this? other unclosed statements? |
| 07:07.19 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Look through these forums: http://www.thepalsforlife.com/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=2928 |
| 07:07.52 | Rayne | ? |
| 07:07.54 | reqol | sigh. found it. is it abnormal to have a lot of unclosed functions and statements in fresh code? |
| 07:08.10 | |Jelly| | [01:03]<Rayne>I need Hals webpage <-- Were you not referring to that Hal? |
| 07:08.16 | Rayne | yeah I was |
| 07:08.23 | Rayne | I needed to redownload hiss bar textures |
| 07:08.36 | |Jelly| | Well, there ya go. |
| 07:08.46 | Rayne | ty |
| 07:08.47 | Rayne | :) |
| 07:10.08 | Rayne | hmm |
| 07:11.27 | |Jelly| | ? |
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| 07:12.16 | Rayne | just looking at my UI like always |
| 07:13.07 | |Jelly| | You could always level an alt for no apparent reason like I am. |
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| 07:16.39 | Rayne | I am, my 60 hunter |
| 07:17.07 | reqol | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA only fires on zone changes like from shattrath to terokkar, right? |
| 07:17.14 | Shirik | negative |
| 07:17.18 | reqol | what do I use for that |
| 07:17.21 | Shirik | well, yes it would do that |
| 07:17.27 | Shirik | it could also fire for a lot of other things |
| 07:17.29 | Shirik | like zoning into Kara |
| 07:17.35 | reqol | thats fine |
| 07:17.48 | reqol | I just want it to fire only on major zone changes |
| 07:17.52 | reqol | not like subzones or w/e |
| 07:17.52 | MentalPower | it fires whenever the big friggin text in the middle shows up |
| 07:17.54 | Shirik | then that's what you want |
| 07:18.18 | reqol | to clarify, it won't fire when in shattrath I go from whatever to Terrace of Light |
| 07:18.27 | MentalPower | shouldn't |
| 07:18.30 | reqol | okay, thanks |
| 07:18.35 | MentalPower | why not find out? :) |
| 07:18.46 | Tem | NEW_AREA includes subzone changes |
| 07:18.46 | reqol | my addon is still not working, so it might be another problem, but I will try to find out regardless |
| 07:18.51 | reqol | damn it |
| 07:18.52 | Tem | like entering the Terrace of Light |
| 07:18.58 | reqol | then how do I do only major zones |
| 07:19.06 | Tem | there's another even for that |
| 07:19.10 | Tem | event* |
| 07:19.35 | reqol | what is it? |
| 07:19.51 | reqol | also, on wowwiki it says GetRealZoneText() isn't accurate, is GetZoneText() accurate? |
| 07:20.04 | Tem | oh wait, my bad |
| 07:20.19 | Tem | NEW_AREA should be just main map zone changes |
| 07:21.36 | Tem | GetZoneText() is, iirc, what gets the Minimap text |
| 07:21.46 | Tem | that tells you the current subzone |
| 07:21.59 | Tem | GetRealZoneText is the toplevel zone |
| 07:24.15 | Wobin | oo |
| 07:24.16 | Wobin | new wine |
| 07:24.18 | reqol | I'm gonna upload my addon to pastey: this is a formal warning |
| 07:24.29 | bleeter | Wobin: .50? been 'out' for a few days :P |
| 07:24.41 | bleeter | Wobin: personally, I wouldn't recommend it, I feel it's.. lost some performance |
| 07:24.56 | bleeter | Wobin: well, be prepared to go 'back' to whatever you've currently got |
| 07:25.08 | Wobin | hehe |
| 07:25.10 | Wobin | okay |
| 07:26.16 | reqol | WARNING: do not click the following link if you do not like ugly code: http://nwkegan.pastebin.ca/804235 |
| 07:26.37 | reqol | could someone help me with why this is not working, and also help me touch it up a bit in the areas it lacks in? |
| 07:26.41 | reqol | or uses bad techniques, etc |
| 07:27.02 | reqol | you can make fun of me behind my back. :D |
| 07:27.42 | art3mis | so wait |
| 07:27.59 | art3mis | this addon just tracks how long you've been idle in cities? |
| 07:28.04 | reqol | yes |
| 07:28.10 | reqol | something simple to start with |
| 07:28.27 | art3mis | why didnt you make this last year when iw as oing for the record |
| 07:28.30 | reqol | I suppose it's quite the endeavor considering my knowledge of API and events, but I like a challenge |
| 07:29.03 | reqol | lol, I'm sorry :) |
| 07:29.03 | bleeter | reqol: I foresee your mod as being as useful as the jumpcounter mod (and maybe as popular, too!) |
| 07:29.14 | art3mis | at least he's trying, unlike you! |
| 07:29.23 | bleeter | art3mis: I'm very trying, trust me |
| 07:29.34 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 07:29.35 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 07:29.44 | art3mis | oh hey |
| 07:30.04 | art3mis | you happen to know anyway to rip apart a nix bin to it's code? that actually works? |
| 07:31.19 | reqol | bleeter: this isn't something I really plan on releasing, though i suppose it might be a nice novelty addon, it's just to help me learn the API and such |
| 07:31.34 | bleeter | not off the top of my head, apart from if it's stripped you're likely to have a lot harder time getting something other than disassembled foo |
| 07:32.23 | bleeter | art3mis: but if you've got non-stripped, or in distro tongue, the -debug package foo installed for the binary, gdb is your friend... or were you thinking something different? |
| 07:32.44 | bleeter | reqol: sometimes the novelty addons are the best (eg, JumpCounter just counts how many times you've... jumped!) |
| 07:32.52 | reqol | aye |
| 07:33.07 | art3mis | well was looking at the entwork streaming nix client |
| 07:33.18 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/2007/12/02/weekend-kat-blogging-kat-and-kitten-nap/ |
| 07:33.23 | art3mis | and i realized that if i can modify the amount of available accounts i'd be a lot happier ;P |
| 07:33.47 | art3mis | judgign from the size im guessing its stripped though |
| 07:33.56 | bleeter | course, there's always the other answer... "there's prolly some zany emacs foo out there that'd do what you need" ;) |
| 07:34.10 | art3mis | been mucking around with vnc+repeaters+managemment consoles all day |
| 07:34.21 | Cairenn | Wobin: cute |
| 07:35.42 | art3mis | sitting ehre wishing i was at work where i have more computers ;P |
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| 07:37.01 | Wobin | http://www.lafinjack.net/images/random/bacon_mat.jpg |
| 07:37.02 | Wobin | omg |
| 07:37.07 | Wobin | BACON PLACEMATS |
| 07:37.32 | art3mis | mmmmmm |
| 07:37.33 | MentalPower | not greasy, nop, not one bit |
| 07:39.54 | art3mis | so ive come up with vncconnection manager |
| 07:40.05 | art3mis | uvnc repeater(nix version) |
| 07:40.11 | art3mis | and uvncsc |
| 07:40.33 | art3mis | only major flw is that none of them have a web absed interface to access |
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| 07:45.16 | reqol | I have a function that returns "true" or "false" if I do not FunctionThatReturnsTrueOrFalse does it do the opposite? or is there an actual boolean value for true and false |
| 07:45.22 | reqol | that's a dumb question |
| 07:45.30 | reqol | I feel like a moron after asking that. |
| 07:45.36 | Tem | not FunctionThatReturnsTrueOrFalse() |
| 07:45.50 | art3mis | the short answer is Teaching |
| 07:45.54 | art3mis | he seems nice |
| 07:45.58 | art3mis | yeah when he's not drunk |
| 07:46.05 | reqol | what's going on? |
| 07:46.07 | reqol | I'm so confused |
| 07:46.11 | MentalPower | lua> function Foo() return true function Bar() return false return not Foo(), not Bar() |
| 07:46.11 | lua_bot | MentalPower: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "function Foo() return true function Bar() return false return n..."]:1: 'end' expected near 'function' |
| 07:46.27 | MentalPower | lua> function Foo() return true end function Bar() return false end return not Foo(), not Bar() |
| 07:46.27 | lua_bot | MentalPower: false, true |
| 07:46.36 | MentalPower | reqol: ^^^^ |
| 07:46.39 | reqol | thanks |
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| 07:50.01 | reqol | hahahaha oh wow this is just not working at all. |
| 07:50.08 | reqol | I expected this, I anticipated this. |
| 07:50.23 | reqol | when it loads, it spouts out a random negative number like -13.0023042304230 |
| 07:50.26 | reqol | I want to cry. |
| 07:51.08 | MentalPower | lua> time()-time() |
| 07:51.08 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0 |
| 07:51.27 | MentalPower | lua> os.clock()-os.clock() |
| 07:51.27 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0 |
| 07:51.31 | MentalPower | lua> os.clock() |
| 07:51.31 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 51.65, |
| 07:51.35 | MentalPower | bah... |
| 07:52.18 | amro | reqol: what does? |
| 07:52.21 | reqol | my addon |
| 07:52.39 | amro | reqol: yeah but I mean what are you trying to print that comes out negative? |
| 07:52.44 | reqol | s/my addon/my monstrosity |
| 07:52.46 | reqol | : ( |
| 07:52.52 | reqol | I can't even get that right |
| 07:52.55 | reqol | uhm |
| 07:52.57 | MentalPower | missing / |
| 07:52.58 | reqol | here, let me paste the code |
| 07:53.05 | reqol | into pastebin |
| 07:53.21 | reqol | http://nwkegan.pastebin.ca/804242 |
| 07:53.40 | reqol | when I /reload my interface, and I use the slash command to get the total time, it sends a negative number |
| 07:53.42 | MentalPower | <whine> reqol won't use pastey </whine> |
| 07:53.47 | reqol | it didn't work for me earlier |
| 07:53.54 | reqol | it gave me 404 file not found on all of my uploads |
| 07:54.00 | reqol | I tried <3 |
| 07:54.18 | reqol | okay, I see the problem |
| 07:54.22 | reqol | but I have another problem as well |
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| 07:54.39 | reqol | the first problem I see, is a really bad mistake on my part. I was subtracting the new time from the old time |
| 07:54.47 | reqol | secondly, it will NOT update when I change zones |
| 07:55.27 | amro | reqol: I was about to ask why you have IdleTimeVars.Time - time() |
| 07:55.31 | reqol | yeah, I fixed that |
| 07:55.38 | reqol | it now reads time() - IdleTimeVars.Time |
| 07:55.56 | reqol | still won't update on zone change though. I'm probably doing this in a bad manner |
| 07:56.05 | amro | remove self from function IdleTime_OnEvent( self, |
| 07:56.16 | reqol | done |
| 07:56.31 | amro | try it now |
| 07:56.44 | MentalPower | amro: he needs the self there |
| 07:56.54 | MentalPower | else event will contain a reference to the frame |
| 07:57.19 | amro | oh I keep forgetting >< |
| 07:57.31 | reqol | added again |
| 07:57.32 | amro | IdleTime_CheckCities should be IdleTime_CheckCities() |
| 07:57.33 | reqol | :o |
| 07:57.40 | amro | or it will always evaluate to true |
| 07:57.42 | reqol | ergh... |
| 07:57.48 | MentalPower | self, foo, happyFace, something |
| 07:58.08 | reqol | great, forget the closing braces on my function calls. I really REALLY need to triple check this stuff. |
| 07:58.13 | amro | MentalPower: yeah, I always forget it and have to add it later, and the next time I think the oppoite |
| 07:58.28 | MentalPower | lol |
| 07:59.50 | reqol | is it difficult to make GUI elements with only LUA? |
| 07:59.51 | krka | reqol: Lua is not an acronym. It is a portuguese word that means moon. |
| 07:59.53 | reqol | sigh |
| 08:00.03 | reqol | my bad, krka, my bad. |
| 08:00.07 | amro | lol |
| 08:00.21 | amro | reqol: IMO it's better to use L.U.A. than Xml |
| 08:00.29 | MentalPower | ~lua |
| 08:00.30 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym its a word in Portuguese that means "moon". |
| 08:01.27 | |Jelly| | LUA |
| 08:01.39 | |Jelly| | Fuckin weak. I thought we had a new bot. :( |
| 08:01.41 | amro | reqol: with TinyPad (and FAIAP) you can write your frames ingame and see what they look like without having to /reload |
| 08:01.56 | MentalPower | |Jelly| its rate limited to once every half hour or so |
| 08:01.57 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, krka has it on a 15 min timer or so |
| 08:02.03 | MentalPower | or 15mins |
| 08:02.04 | testleK | FAIAP? |
| 08:02.15 | MentalPower | ForAllIndentsAndPurposes |
| 08:02.19 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower, that was a WAG, coulld be either |
| 08:02.36 | bleeter | krka: shouldn't you be spelling Portuguese with a capital letter, if yer gunna be grammar nazi on LUA? |
| 08:02.37 | testleK | sweet glad I was peaking im gonna go grab those thanks for mentioning that |
| 08:02.39 | Thunder_Child | and i am to lazy to test |
| 08:03.07 | amro | testleK: get myDebug and DevTools while you're at it |
| 08:03.40 | testleK | Ill grab em Im new at this and need all the help I can get :) |
| 08:03.44 | Tem | bleeter, it's not about being a grammar nazi |
| 08:03.47 | Tem | it just bothers people |
| 08:03.55 | Tem | (including the Lua devs) |
| 08:04.01 | Tem | (and me) |
| 08:04.14 | Tem | It's sorta like when people say "ACE" |
| 08:04.17 | NightHawkTheSane | (and anyone who has a decent respect for proper names?) |
| 08:04.18 | Tem | god I hate that |
| 08:04.25 | bleeter | it bothers me that 'portuguese' is gramattically incorrect |
| 08:04.45 | NightHawkTheSane | "grammatically" ;) |
| 08:04.52 | bleeter | yeah well |
| 08:04.58 | MentalPower | lol |
| 08:05.06 | bleeter | you try thinking with all this rain and wind and thunder and lightning :P |
| 08:05.10 | Thunder_Child | ~fail bleeter |
| 08:05.10 | purl | bleeter: Fail. |
| 08:05.11 | MentalPower | ~fail bleeter |
| 08:05.11 | purl | bleeter: Fail. |
| 08:05.22 | Thunder_Child | damit MentalPower get out of my head |
| 08:05.33 | bleeter | yeah, anyways, the irony of it correcting a proper name by mis-using another propername is astounding =) |
| 08:05.44 | NightHawkTheSane | .. i'm pretty sure there's plenty of rain and wind and snow here. not so much with the thunder and lightning, which is a shame, I miss it. :( |
| 08:06.29 | bleeter | http://mirror.bom.gov.au/products/IDR373.shtml |
| 08:07.06 | reqol | how can I round to the nearest hundredth in lua |
| 08:07.12 | reqol | does floor take extra args? |
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| 08:07.39 | Thunder_Child | round? |
| 08:07.46 | amro | reqol: floor just drops the decimal part |
| 08:07.55 | reqol | I don't see a round on the lua functions page |
| 08:09.49 | amro | reqol: do a check to see if it's closer to ceil or floor then use that |
| 08:10.25 | MentalPower | NOOOOOO! |
| 08:11.00 | reqol | but I need to preserve the to the hundredths place |
| 08:11.21 | amro | oh I misunderstood you |
| 08:11.29 | reqol | I'm rounding the seconds |
| 08:11.40 | amro | you don't need to round |
| 08:11.40 | MentalPower | reqol: well, I was going to provide a simple case, but the one you want is in lua-users |
| 08:11.45 | ccox | (top ten signs these children have not taken an algorithms class:......) |
| 08:11.50 | amro | nobody's going to complain about 30ms |
| 08:12.11 | reqol | amro: no, it's spitting out numbers like .3333333333333333333 |
| 08:12.12 | Thunder_Child | http://lua-users.org/wiki/SimpleRound ? |
| 08:12.37 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: that page is a misnomer |
| 08:12.44 | MentalPower | that is far from simple |
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| 08:13.03 | Thunder_Child | well dont shoot the messenger |
| 08:13.24 | amro | reqol: it's because of IdleTimeVars.TotalTime + ( (IdleTimeVars.Time - time()) / 60), just store your time normally and do any conversions you need when displaying |
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| 08:13.57 | MentalPower | lua> function round(number) return floor(number+0.5) return round(2.5), round(2.2), round(2.7), round(3), round(2) |
| 08:13.57 | lua_bot | MentalPower: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "function round(number) return floor(number+0.5) return round(2...."]:1: 'end' expected near 'return' |
| 08:14.05 | MentalPower | lua> function round(number) return floor(number+0.5) end return round(2.5), round(2.2), round(2.7), round(3), round(2) |
| 08:14.05 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 3, 2, 3, 3, 2 |
| 08:14.14 | MentalPower | second time tonight I've made that mistake |
| 08:16.36 | MentalPower | ccox: you would be right |
| 08:17.36 | reqol | wait, what did I do wrong that would imply I hadn't taken an algorithms class? |
| 08:18.17 | amro | no it's what I suggested, ignore me I'm not thinking straight |
| 08:18.50 | reqol | ah |
| 08:23.51 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 08:24.00 | reqol | good night! thank you for the help |
| 08:25.03 | reqol | I made another dumb mistake, dividing by 60 and thinking the seconds would come naturally... |
| 08:25.20 | reqol | is there modulus in lua? |
| 08:25.27 | amro | mod(x, y) |
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| 08:26.02 | MentalPower|ZzZz | lua> return math.mod(100,10) math.fmod(100,10) |
| 08:26.02 | lua_bot | MentalPower|ZzZz: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "return math.mod(100,10) math.fmod(100,10)"]:1: '<eof>' expected near 'math' |
| 08:26.10 | MentalPower|ZzZz | lua> return math.mod(100,10), math.fmod(100,10) |
| 08:26.11 | lua_bot | MentalPower|ZzZz: [string "return math.mod(100,10), math.fmod(100,10)"]:1: attempt to call field 'mod' (a nil value) |
| 08:26.16 | MentalPower|ZzZz | lua> return math.fmod(100,10) |
| 08:26.17 | lua_bot | MentalPower|ZzZz: 0 |
| 08:26.25 | MentalPower|ZzZz | math.fmod |
| 08:26.52 | MentalPower|ZzZz | lua> return 1000%10 |
| 08:26.52 | lua_bot | MentalPower|ZzZz: 0 |
| 08:27.01 | MentalPower|ZzZz | or just % |
| 08:27.33 | reqol | night :) |
| 08:31.01 | Antiarc | Cairenn|afk: Did you get the infected wowui file yet? |
| 08:32.36 | reqol | so far the addon is actually working. oh man, this is the best day of my life. |
| 08:32.44 | reqol | I have a pretty pathetic life... |
| 08:32.53 | Thunder_Child | i wasnt going to say anything.... |
| 08:33.03 | Thunder_Child | but i was thinking it! |
| 08:33.26 | reqol | lol |
| 08:33.39 | reqol | so if I want an argument to a slash cmd, all that I need to do is add an argument to the function it calls? |
| 08:38.32 | amro | reqol: no you have to parse it yourself |
| 08:40.14 | reqol | amro: what I did worked |
| 08:40.23 | reqol | IdleTime_OnSlash(cmd) |
| 08:40.27 | reqol | then treat cmd as the string |
| 08:42.14 | amro | reqol: yes, but if you have /idletime cmd arg1 arg2 you get "cmd arg1 arg2" in cmd. |
| 08:46.53 | bleeter | woot 5/8 Oceanic realms Locked |
| 08:48.45 | reqol | amro: I see, how would I go about parsing? |
| 08:52.56 | Arrowmaster | reqol: string.split |
| 08:54.04 | Arrowmaster | lua> ("cmd arg1 arg2"):split(" ") |
| 08:54.04 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: , , |
| 08:54.31 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.split(" ", "cmd arg1 arg2") |
| 08:54.31 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: cmd, arg1, arg2, |
| 08:54.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah blame blizzard on that one |
| 08:55.05 | Arrowmaster | stupid backwards functions |
| 08:55.32 | reqol | so what do I do instead? |
| 08:55.35 | reqol | strfind? |
| 08:55.43 | reqol | or even strsub I suppose |
| 08:56.33 | Arrowmaster | no string.split works, just you have to put the " " before the input string which is backwards from all other string commands |
| 08:56.57 | reqol | ah, thank you |
| 08:57.02 | amro | reqol: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strsplit |
| 08:57.56 | reqol | how can I accept the second argument and discard the first? |
| 08:58.04 | reqol | local a, b.... a = nil; ? |
| 08:58.19 | amro | local _, b = whatever |
| 08:58.24 | Arrowmaster | local _, a, b = string.split(" ", cmd) |
| 08:58.25 | reqol | sweet! |
| 08:58.28 | reqol | thanks |
| 08:58.52 | amro | ~pil |
| 08:58.53 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 09:00.33 | reqol | to clarify, if I have an onslash function and it has a cmd argument, what gets placed in that argument if it called it with /itime reset? reset or /itime reset |
| 09:00.58 | amro | anything after "/itime " gets put in cmd |
| 09:00.59 | Arrowmaster | reset i think |
| 09:01.14 | reqol | okay so then I don't need to discard anything |
| 09:01.14 | reqol | thanks |
| 09:05.48 | reqol | hmm. I have it so that it checks whether or not cmd was input. ie first it's if cmd == "reset" and that works, then it's if not cmd and that always evaluates to false, and the last is just an else. |
| 09:06.10 | reqol | I want it to do this: if it says reset, reset, if it says nothing, give the count, if it says something else, give an incorrect usage message |
| 09:11.02 | cladhaire | you really should read PiL, which people continue to direct you to |
| 09:12.16 | reqol | clad|sleep: I did not see the above redirection to the pil, and that's the only time I've seen it (which does not mean it's the only time I've been shown) nevertheless, I'll go there now |
| 09:12.16 | nevcairiel | clad|sleep: and i thought you finally moved in the cooler timezone :P |
| 09:12.28 | clad|sleep | not a problem |
| 09:12.37 | clad|sleep | people tend to be sly when invoking it |
| 09:12.51 | clad|sleep | but the basic Lua questions you're having are answered in the first 5 chapters or so |
| 09:13.19 | bleeter | lol apparently oceanic was 5/8 last night, too, with queues of 700+ |
| 09:13.20 | reqol | alright, I'm sorry to flood with simple questions :( I'll be more keen on checking it out before asking |
| 09:13.28 | clad|sleep | no no no, I'm not trying to say that |
| 09:13.31 | clad|sleep | feel free to ask questions |
| 09:13.41 | clad|sleep | but you'd serve yourself by reading the first five chapters as well |
| 09:13.58 | bleeter | man, if drysc were here right now I'd lart him for his 'no new servers needed' quote from a month or two ago |
| 09:14.02 | clad|sleep | we're here to help, but be patient if peopel direct you towards PiL, since it answers many questions you could run into |
| 09:14.02 | bleeter | in fact |
| 09:14.06 | bleeter | ~lart drysc |
| 09:14.06 | purl | executes killall -KILL drysc |
| 09:14.14 | bleeter | damn, was hoping for OE |
| 09:14.29 | bleeter | ~hug drysc |
| 09:14.30 | purl | ACTION jumps into drysc's lap and huggles and *hugs* drysc |
| 09:14.30 | reqol | indeed, I appreciate this channel quite a bit. I'll definitely read up on the pil, and I'll take what you've said to heart. thanks for the help :) |
| 09:14.45 | bleeter | reqol: don't mind me, I'm on a personal crusade atm ;) |
| 09:15.02 | clad|sleep | bleeter: is always on a personal crusade |
| 09:15.04 | reqol | heh, before the rogue patch I'm sure many of us had similar feelings towards him |
| 09:15.54 | bleeter | meh, rogues things were merely a problem INGAME. what I'm on about is the inability of several thousand customers to actually get to the char selector ;) |
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| 09:16.31 | reqol | I was merely relating the feeling, not the importance of the subject :) I agree how urgent this can be |
| 09:16.38 | bleeter | one nice quote from the oceanic queue thread 'a mate asked me why I'd pay $15 per month to play a game I have to wait an hour to join'.. answer was 'nfi' |
| 09:17.01 | bleeter | note, this quote was from someone trying to convince a friend to sign up to a full account ;) |
| 09:18.12 | bleeter | reminds me |
| 09:18.27 | bleeter | Wobin: JB Hifi are opening here end of the week! WOOT! CHEAP GAME CARDS FINALLY! |
| 09:18.37 | Wobin | hehe |
| 09:18.47 | Wobin | I've always used a cc |
| 09:19.02 | Wobin | JB are everywhere now |
| 09:19.23 | bleeter | I was in the city today, stuck my head in to EB. iirc, they were after $49 for the big game card |
| 09:19.32 | bleeter | yeah, I think they listed... or something similar, recently |
| 09:19.37 | Wobin | I knew Dick Smith had jumped the shark when they offered Dick Cheese |
| 09:19.53 | bleeter | I thought Dick Heads were the best :D |
| 09:21.04 | bleeter | lol, the talk turns to Dick Cheese and Dick Heads, and folks /quit |
| 09:23.07 | bleeter | you know, there's a place in the queue.. somewhere after starting at ~700... when you see the ETA jump from 10 to 15 minutes for about the 20th time.. that no matter how far down the queue one's progressed, just can't help but feel like giving up |
| 09:23.29 | amro | nice, dc'd right before winning an AV |
| 09:23.36 | bleeter | choice |
| 09:24.06 | bleeter | I hear Oceania realms are nice for AV... 20-40 min wait to get in, then another 20-40 minute wait for AV or Arena. |
| 09:24.41 | bleeter | or something equally stupid... last time I was on Barthilas, allegedly the instance server had been offline for a couple of hourse. |
| 09:24.53 | bleeter | -e |
| 09:24.57 | amro | =( |
| 09:25.15 | amro | I miss the old AV |
| 09:25.16 | bleeter | didn't actually go looking, 'coz I was trying to get big datasets for Auctioneer test cases |
| 09:26.12 | amro | what do you ping on US servers? |
| 09:26.13 | bleeter | amro: me too. I still think there should be an epic AV for those exalted with the faction. The probable small pool of players on any given battlegroup might possibly be alleviated by the NPCs. |
| 09:26.39 | bleeter | iirc, on a good day I get down to about 320. Bad days are 450-500. |
| 09:27.04 | amro | that's what I get |
| 09:27.12 | amro | you should just play on US servers |
| 09:27.20 | bleeter | um |
| 09:27.21 | bleeter | I do |
| 09:27.45 | amro | oh, I thought you were complaining about queue times on your server :) |
| 09:28.28 | bleeter | it's my alt's server, where most of my RL friends play |
| 09:28.32 | bleeter | well, I have alts on my main server, it's my alt server ... I mainly drop by to give my RL mates hell, and get auctioneer data |
| 09:28.52 | bleeter | to make sure stuff's just not 'fixed' for my main realm, and works on all.. kinda thing. |
| 09:29.44 | bleeter | I *used* to be on Oceanic realm, Khaz'goroth. It was heavily overpopulated for ages (this is pre-BC). Then they opened up transfers, allowing more people onto the realm. iirc, the queues shot out to 1500 or so. |
| 09:29.55 | amro | ouch |
| 09:30.06 | amro | I've never seen the queue screen :) |
| 09:30.06 | bleeter | I think it was around then I transferred my toons off to a medium-pop US realm |
| 09:30.59 | bleeter | lost around 50ms ping in the process, as the oceanics are (allegedly) network optimised for oceanic usage. but really, PvP (outside a big battle such as AV) or duelling is useless when it's 10-50ms vs 300ms, so I don't bother |
| 09:31.01 | Corrodias | my realm had queues around last christmas, i think |
| 09:31.06 | Corrodias | but those were quite temporary |
| 09:31.16 | reqol | clad|sleep: it required quite a bit of hunting, but I learned something. lua treats "" as true. no wonder it didn't work. thanks :) |
| 09:31.42 | Corrodias | indeed! anything other than false and null! |
| 09:31.48 | reqol | nil? |
| 09:31.58 | Corrodias | er, yes |
| 09:32.03 | reqol | just clarifying, heh :) |
| 09:32.08 | Corrodias | nill |
| 09:32.11 | bleeter | pounce on someone as they're running towards you, client insists they're out of range. re-try it immediately after, server insists they're well past you and.. out of range. totally useless. |
| 09:32.13 | Corrodias | llllllllll |
| 09:32.33 | reqol | now what's this update event I've heard I can use to count in real time, or at least update periodically? |
| 09:32.49 | Corrodias | bleeter: it's great that they made the client stop cancelling spellcasts because of cooldown and current spellcast |
| 09:32.57 | Corrodias | now if they could just make it stop doing it for all other situations... |
| 09:33.10 | Corrodias | OnUpdate |
| 09:33.33 | Corrodias | you'd set an OnUpdate script on a frame, i believe, for that sort of thing |
| 09:33.38 | bleeter | Corrodias: I'm sick and tired of getting error messages when mining nodes after the loot's in my bag 'another action is in progress'... nfi if it's related, but it's noticably worse under 2.3.0 and pissing me off |
| 09:33.51 | Corrodias | worse? |
| 09:34.20 | bleeter | 'appears to happen far more frequently now than before, even though I admit I'm a click-happy miner' |
| 09:34.26 | reqol | and when would onupdate be called? |
| 09:34.29 | Corrodias | yeah, i've got a good rhythm for that these days |
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| 09:34.55 | bleeter | Corrodias: coulda sworn I had one, totally gone to spout under 2.3.0. RL friend describes same. |
| 09:34.57 | Corrodias | onupdate is called... every frame, i think. which i believe means 40+ times per second on a decent machine in most situations. |
| 09:35.10 | reqol | awesome, thanks |
| 09:35.22 | Corrodias | so don't use it heavily. do very simple things. |
| 09:35.50 | Corrodias | alright, i have to get to bed. 'ni! |
| 09:35.50 | reqol | night :) |
| 09:36.22 | bleeter | Corrodias: nn |
| 09:38.26 | bleeter | yay, and finally on to my alt realm :/ |
| 09:38.36 | testleK | *note to self go check out PIL -- didnt know "" was returned true :P |
| 09:39.48 | testleK | just to clarify something with you guys, /reloadui does count as a gracefull exit and save sv's right? |
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| 09:41.48 | reqol | yes, I'm pretty sure about that, but you might want clarification from others |
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| 09:42.27 | testleK | i guess i could do some tests |
| 09:42.38 | testleK | but that would mean learning how to save my variable |
| 09:42.41 | testleK | lol |
| 09:43.31 | testleK | ohwell i should be productive and work on lua instead of plaing :P |
| 09:44.04 | bleeter | amro: curiously enough, my ping is worse to one of these 'optimised' oceanic realms, than it is to my non-optimised yet medium pop US realm ;) |
| 09:44.16 | bleeter | amro: by a factor of around 100ms |
| 09:45.57 | amro | I'm still looking for a realm where I ping <300ms |
| 09:48.00 | testleK | im in us and normally around 170ms on my us med / high pop servers |
| 09:48.05 | bleeter | amro: Blizz US probably don't optimise any trans-atlantic connections |
| 09:48.24 | bleeter | amro: in fact, I wouldn't be suprised if it's forcefully given low priority |
| 09:48.36 | amro | strangely, I got ~200ms on EU, not a huge difference |
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| 09:49.15 | amro | bottleneck is between here and europe, there's a project to build transmediterranean cables that don't suck |
| 09:49.30 | bleeter | I've often wondered what ping I'd get connecting to EU |
| 09:50.04 | amro | a friend from aus said it's real bad |
| 09:51.13 | amro | I get 775ms on one realm >< |
| 09:51.28 | amro | there should be a way to sort realmlist by ping |
| 09:51.44 | bleeter | yup |
| 09:52.03 | bleeter | lolz.. apparently that instance server outage I mentioned, lasted all night |
| 09:52.29 | bleeter | amro: if not realm list, I'd be happy to be able to list them by battlegroup, and have the battlegroup's average ping |
| 09:53.08 | amro | actually there's a list of all realm IPs somewhere |
| 09:53.09 | reqol | well, it completely works. all of it. :D. thanks for all the help :). well, it works as far as I've tested it |
| 09:53.12 | amro | I wonder if they respond to PING |
| 09:53.20 | amro | reqol: congrats! |
| 09:53.30 | bleeter | amro: they don't, but the last hop before the IP does, so one can time stuff that way |
| 09:54.16 | reqol | yeah, they really need to do something about that |
| 09:54.19 | testleK | lol never thought of pining the prev hop :P |
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| 09:57.45 | amro | there needs to be a "logout now" button |
| 09:59.00 | bleeter | what, you mean /camp ? |
| 09:59.06 | greppy | you mean /quit? |
| 09:59.26 | greppy | bleeter: /camp is only instant in a city or inn :) |
| 09:59.32 | bleeter | ooooh, it's my favourite tool of all time! |
| 09:59.38 | bleeter | and it speaks wisdom as always =) |
| 09:59.47 | amro | old list http://www.sourcepeek.com/wiki/World_of_Warcraft_Realm_List |
| 10:00.03 | amro | I mean like exit now, except for logout |
| 10:00.18 | greppy | bleeter: that would be... difficult :) |
| 10:01.25 | bleeter | :D |
| 10:01.42 | bleeter | well, least you didn't take offence at me calling you a tool =) |
| 10:01.49 | amro | lol |
| 10:01.52 | bleeter | coz none was meant :/ |
| 10:02.01 | greppy | hehe |
| 10:02.18 | amro | whoa |
| 10:02.21 | amro | 196ms! |
| 10:02.25 | greppy | Nope, actually, I read it smiled.. then went 'hey... wait a minute did he mean....' lol |
| 10:02.32 | bleeter | haha |
| 10:03.15 | reqol | think anyone would want to know how long they spend in major cities? |
| 10:03.22 | bleeter | amro: dunno precisely, but I assume the ingame 'ping' includes some server processing, or at least blizz networking, that'll increase the ping somewhat |
| 10:03.34 | bleeter | reqol: about as much as folks want to know how many times they hump |
| 10:03.35 | bleeter | er |
| 10:03.40 | bleeter | jump |
| 10:03.41 | bleeter | ~fail bleeter |
| 10:03.41 | purl | bleeter: Fail. |
| 10:03.41 | greppy | lol |
| 10:03.56 | reqol | well |
| 10:03.59 | greppy | How many times they hump... that would be a druid only mod, right? |
| 10:04.10 | reqol | i suppose for a novelty item it's nice. I might as well put it somewhere |
| 10:05.13 | amro | bleeter: that was ingame, and only temporary... back up to 300ms |
| 10:11.03 | testleK | reqol I would :P |
| 10:11.53 | bleeter | reqol: yup, wowinterface.com ;) |
| 10:15.11 | bleeter | amro: I think there must be water in my connection line somewhere... it's absolutely bucketing down, my speed tests to my ISP are showing real poor results |
| 10:15.48 | bleeter | amro: thus, I'm not going to bother doing anymore 'ping' tests to Blizz servers for the moment (ie, if I'm stupidly slow, but definately not shaped, to my ISP then any further testing is pointless) |
| 10:16.05 | Wobin | oh man |
| 10:16.15 | Wobin | I read it as "greppy is a *nix app" |
| 10:16.23 | Wobin | and thought: "Yes... yes it is..." |
| 10:16.27 | bleeter | and water in the lines is a common problem in .au, isn't that right Wobin ? |
| 10:16.42 | Wobin | Oh totally |
| 10:16.48 | bleeter | 'coz the 'national' telco company are a pack of cheap pricks |
| 10:16.51 | Wobin | I get backwashed ping floods all the time =( |
| 10:17.11 | Wobin | I have to unplug my network and leave the end of the cat5 in a bucket =\ |
| 10:17.31 | bleeter | big bucket? |
| 10:17.50 | Wobin | a bit bucket |
| 10:18.40 | bleeter | hmm, I wonder why I haven't received the bill for last month from my ISP... wonder if getting needlessly shaped 4 or 5 times means they're gunna give me the month for free |
| 10:18.47 | Wobin | ahahahaah |
| 10:18.50 | Wobin | *cough* |
| 10:19.02 | bleeter | tell ya, if they didn't support freenode by hosting the .au node, I'd be clear of them ;) |
| 10:19.59 | bleeter | Wobin: http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2857/barthcopyse8.jpg |
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| 10:21.32 | bleeter | wtf |
| 10:21.42 | bleeter | you can still transfer to these Oceanic realms that are constantly locked =) |
| 10:22.06 | Lukian | heh :D |
| 10:31.19 | amro | accessing windows shares through samba is faster than through win explorer |
| 10:31.21 | amro | ~fail microsoft |
| 10:31.22 | purl | microsoft: Fail. |
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| 10:33.12 | amro | damn printer out of ink |
| 10:33.14 | bleeter | ok, this is screwed... can't bid on the AH, but am getting emotes from NPCs :/ |
| 10:35.14 | amro | good luck with that, later all |
| 10:36.52 | bleeter | later amro, take care mate :) |
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| 11:59.24 | bleeter | well, I've had enough of staring at the queue times on oceanic realms for one evening.. gnight all :) |
| 12:00.56 | Wobin | night all |
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| 15:26.50 | malreth | lua> format("receives %dg %ds %dc", random(2), random(99), random(99)) |
| 15:26.50 | lua_bot | malreth: receives 2g 28s 55c, |
| 15:27.38 | malreth | lua> format("receives %dg %ds %dc", random(2), random(99), random(99)) |
| 15:27.38 | lua_bot | malreth: receives 2g 95s 91c, |
| 15:27.43 | malreth | lua> format("receives %dg %ds %dc", random(2), random(99), random(99)) |
| 15:27.43 | lua_bot | malreth: receives 2g 2s 25c, |
| 15:30.16 | Maldivia | a bit cheap, are we? |
| 15:30.39 | malreth | :) |
| 15:33.15 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168334596&sid=1 |
| 15:33.25 | malreth | just checking my syntax |
| 15:35.50 | JoshBorke | lua> format("receives %dg %ds %dc", random(2), random(99), random(99)) |
| 15:35.51 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: receives 1g 13s 11c, |
| 15:37.30 | Lukian | ah cool |
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| 15:47.12 | malreth | Awesomes: http://macitbetter.com/BetterZipQL-1.0 |
| 15:47.27 | malreth | quicklook is genius |
| 15:48.54 | cladhaire | how do you invoke quicklook from the commandline, in a finder window |
| 15:49.00 | cladhaire | i never use it cause i dont' know |
| 15:49.10 | malreth | there's a way... lemme look it up |
| 15:50.29 | malreth | you have to create a shell script |
| 15:50.30 | malreth | http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071104012738617&query=ql%2Bcommand%2Bline |
| 15:50.39 | malreth | but the command is qlmanage -p filename |
| 15:51.02 | malreth | the script redirects stdout to /dev/null |
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| 15:52.51 | Guest90101 | When Cairenn comes on let her know I have sent her a PM which should help trace the server infiltration |
| 15:53.01 | Rushster | When Cairenn comes on let her know I have sent her a PM which should help trace the server infiltration |
| 15:53.04 | Rushster | thats better :) |
| 15:53.04 | cladhaire | Rushster: will do |
| 15:53.19 | Rushster | It;s reall y important you guys follow the steps I have outlines |
| 15:53.22 | cladhaire | Rushster: may want to send it directly to dolby-wowi if he happens to be around |
| 15:54.38 | dolby-wowi | Hey Rushster |
| 15:55.01 | dolby-wowi | can you forward that PM to me? |
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| 16:00.15 | Rushster | sure whats your name on the wowi site |
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| 16:01.46 | dolby-wowi | dolby :) |
| 16:01.51 | Rushster | lol opk sending now |
| 16:01.57 | Rushster | make sure you do this or you guys are wide open still ok |
| 16:02.08 | dolby-wowi | ok |
| 16:02.39 | Rushster | sent |
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| 16:03.16 | dolby-wowi | got it, thanks Rushster |
| 16:03.45 | malreth | i feel your pain, jelly... i feel your pain |
| 16:03.53 | Rushster | np |
| 16:04.49 | Lopeppeppy | *comfort* |
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| 16:04.50 | |Jelly| | I swear, I think ATI Tools is trying to kill my video card. Probably 40% of the time, the fan on my video card doesn't get turned on. There's nothing wrong with it (the fan), it just doesn't get turned on. |
| 16:05.21 | cog|work | needs more lube |
| 16:05.23 | cog|work | imo |
| 16:05.29 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 16:05.31 | |Jelly| | So my stupid ass starts up WoW and does things like normal without checking first and all of the sudden, ZOMG! Everything's black! |
| 16:05.33 | cog|work | <.< |
| 16:05.35 | cog|work | >.> |
| 16:05.44 | |Jelly| | Cog always thinks everything needs lube. |
| 16:05.59 | Lukian | |Jelly|, yeah, wow loading screen uses a crazy amount of gfx power :/ |
| 16:06.00 | |Jelly| | Any ideas on how much a taxi will cost to go 2.7 miles up the road? lol |
| 16:06.01 | cog|work | why do you think i'm an engineer? ;) |
| 16:07.11 | |Jelly| | (I was told I'm not allowed to bike to work anymore, if you're at all curious.) :P |
| 16:07.34 | Lukian | wow by? |
| 16:07.48 | |Jelly| | ...the store manager? lol |
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| 16:09.17 | Lukian | why? :p |
| 16:11.00 | |Jelly| | Because I'm a waiter and wearing a tie + pressed shirt + sweating = bad |
| 16:11.37 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, can you not carry your work uniform in a bag and change there? |
| 16:11.59 | |Jelly| | [10:09]<|Jelly|>Because I'm a waiter and wearing a tie + /pressed shirt/ + sweating = bad -- Not really. :( |
| 16:12.40 | Lopeppeppy | Do you have a locker at work, you could taxi *once* a week and bring them all, then change in the bathroom after biking the rest of the days? |
| 16:13.17 | |Jelly| | Nope. But it's only a problem when I work Lunch Shift. Nights aren't a problem. I'm really wanting to kick myself for having to sell my car. :\ |
| 16:13.27 | Lopeppeppy | *hugs* |
| 16:13.30 | |Jelly| | (and I only work one lunch shift this week -- today) |
| 16:13.33 | Lopeppeppy | Cars are de work of de debbil. |
| 16:13.50 | malreth | the oil debbil! |
| 16:13.54 | |Jelly| | I agree but they really make that Point A to Point B thing easy. |
| 16:14.07 | |Jelly| | Five minute car ride or 45 minute bike ride. I love hills. |
| 16:14.19 | malreth | i take the bus |
| 16:14.26 | |Jelly| | Oh wait. I'm sorry...it's not plural...it's one...big...freaking...hill. |
| 16:14.51 | Lopeppeppy | I like... ponds. Hills are de tool of de debbil. |
| 16:14.52 | malreth | but austin has a passably acceptable transit system |
| 16:15.00 | malreth | the hill debbil! |
| 16:15.18 | |Jelly| | Yeah...Fort Worth doesn't. |
| 16:15.42 | malreth | 'well ther's yer problem' |
| 16:15.47 | Lopeppeppy | Neither does Albany. Boston's T system is kickass. |
| 16:16.14 | |Jelly| | Note to self: Install /devnull ASAP. |
| 16:16.50 | Lopeppeppy | Hey |Jelly|. Install devnull. Don't forget. |
| 16:16.56 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 16:21.53 | malreth | was the concept of 'unitasker/multitasker' kitchen and cooking gadgets around before Good Eats or did Alton Brown really coin that term in that particular application? |
| 16:22.39 | malreth | oh... |Jelly|... |
| 16:22.53 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 16:23.04 | malreth | have you installed /devnull? |
| 16:23.49 | |Jelly| | no. I asked a guildie to mail me, reminding me. I'm not going to do it right now. |
| 16:24.34 | malreth | that answer is acceptable |
| 16:24.47 | malreth | ASAP, man... ASAP |
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| 16:33.09 | |Jelly| | I has ride! kek |
| 16:34.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, |Jelly| ! |
| 16:34.32 | Lopeppeppy | Carpool is not de debbil. Carpool is de angel in disguise. |
| 16:34.56 | Industrial | public transport, go! |
| 16:35.42 | |Jelly| | I'm taking a cab. There isn't a bus stop anywhere near where I need to go. |
| 16:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | That sucks much. How much will the cab run ya? |
| 16:37.22 | |Jelly| | ~$10. kek |
| 16:37.30 | |Jelly| | I'm glad I don't eat lunch. |
| 16:38.37 | Lopeppeppy | Yuk. I wish i could come to your restaurant and give you a good tip to make up for it. At least it hopefully won't be often. |
| 16:40.29 | |Jelly| | The other night, I got $10 off a 17 person table that totaled $194. It was awesome! |
| 16:40.43 | |Jelly| | (We apparently don't do auto-grat! I was pretty excited when I found that out.) |
| 16:41.27 | Lopeppeppy | In my world, your tip should have been about $40. I hope you were being sarcastic? |
| 16:41.28 | TS|Skrom | sarcasm detector necessary lope |
| 16:41.48 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.52 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause I'll come kill someone for ya, that's just dumb. People are ze dumb. |
| 16:42.11 | TS|Skrom | maybe |Jelly| gave poor service :p |
| 16:42.40 | |Jelly| | Jelly has actually gotten more compliments than you'd imagine. :P It's amazing what happens when I enjoy what I'm doing. |
| 16:43.11 | Lopeppeppy | I never... "enjoyed" food service, but I know how to put on the smile and the cheerful and get it done so it's good for everyone. |
| 16:44.05 | |Jelly| | I think I already told you but I'm looking at going to culinary school this fall (08) because well, I sat down and thought about it and I definitely don't want to work on computers for the rest of my life but rather keep that a hobby. |
| 16:45.37 | Lopeppeppy | Cooking is fun times... so much creativity and so much flexibility required, it keeps your mind seriously agile. |
| 16:45.47 | Lopeppeppy | Along with the rest of you, in a kitchen there is much danger. |
| 16:46.04 | |Jelly| | I guess you didn't hear about last Wednesday? rofl |
| 16:53.02 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|... I'd lecture you myself if I knew which finger you narrowly escaped cutting off. |
| 16:57.39 | greppy | |Jelly|shower: I took a $2 tip for a table of 20 back out to the church group that had just been in there and suggested that they probably needed it more than I did. The leaders made the entire group come back in and leave a real tip. |
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| 16:58.17 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, greppy. |
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| 17:05.55 | greppy | Lopeppeppy: I knew the leaders of that particular group :) which made it even more satisfying. |
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| 17:09.54 | Drea | Good MOrning! |
| 17:11.31 | TS|Skrom | I would like some heat in this building, good gravy! |
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| 17:23.33 | Drea | hey, is there a way, to check to see if there is another addon loaded? |
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| 17:23.52 | Drea | For instance, i only wanna run a certain function if metamap is installed. |
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| 17:24.02 | Drea | but i don't want it to be a dependancy |
| 17:24.04 | batrick | i think IsAddOnLoaded("name") |
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| 17:24.30 | malreth | you can check for the existence of a function or object that is defined in the Metamap addon |
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| 17:24.52 | MentalPower | Drea: thats what optional deps are for |
| 17:24.52 | Drea | lemme look that up thanks bat. |
| 17:25.13 | Kaso | MentalPower, even if it is an opt dep you still need to check it's loaded |
| 17:25.22 | Drea | do i have to have it optional or dependency to check to see if it's loaded? |
| 17:25.24 | MentalPower | Kaso: correct |
| 17:25.46 | malreth | Drea: you have to make sure that the addon has had a chance to load before you check for its existence |
| 17:26.12 | MentalPower | or just scan the ADDON_LOADED events for the one you want |
| 17:26.17 | Kaso | optional depenency + IsAddonLoaded is the "correct" way to go about things surely? |
| 17:26.51 | Drea | well i dont want it to be a dependency at all, just don't wanna run this function if this addon isn't installed. :D |
| 17:27.26 | Drea | i found the isaddonloaded func, so i'll give it a whirl |
| 17:27.30 | malreth | Drea: why is that? just curious |
| 17:27.37 | Kaso | Optional depenceny means that your addon can interact with that other addon if it is installed, which is exactly what you are doing |
| 17:27.41 | batrick | Drea, register for VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 17:27.53 | batrick | then check if meta whatever is loaded with that function I gave you |
| 17:28.17 | Drea | well, i have a function, that's going to insert notes in metamap, for the leveling guide. and not bother if it's not installed |
| 17:28.47 | malreth | do you call a function that's defined in the Metamap addon? |
| 17:28.50 | Drea | yup |
| 17:28.57 | malreth | what's the name of the function |
| 17:29.17 | Kaso | Drea you should list Metamap as an optional dep in that situation imo |
| 17:29.27 | Drea | MetaMap_SetNewNote |
| 17:29.37 | malreth | do a if functionname then functionname() -- more code -- more stuff end |
| 17:30.14 | malreth | so if MetaMap_SetNewNote then MetaMap_SetNewNote(blah, blah, blah) end |
| 17:30.17 | malreth | done |
| 17:30.50 | malreth | it'll be faster than doing a functioncall to IsAddonLoaded() everytime |
| 17:31.00 | batrick | not really malreth |
| 17:31.17 | batrick | you can define your function if the addon is loaded during vARIABLES_LOADED event |
| 17:31.23 | batrick | and not define it otherwise |
| 17:31.36 | batrick | it really depends on how you have your AddOn set up |
| 17:31.46 | malreth | then you have to check for the existence of your function before calling it |
| 17:31.57 | batrick | which is faster if your function is local |
| 17:31.58 | Drea | well eventually, i'm gonna try to see if i can get the same kinda thing workin with other map addons |
| 17:32.45 | malreth | but, i suppose you could define the function one way if the addon loads and define it as an empty function otherwise |
| 17:32.45 | Drea | just have one function, that only works with each addon |
| 17:33.11 | malreth | ah... |
| 17:33.20 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/9c8c3e2874a18678b187335a3b2c6eed2c7d68db/fullshot2-big.jpg |
| 17:33.53 | malreth | then yeah... what batrick is saying is probably a better way of doing it |
| 17:34.12 | Drea | i think optionaldep, and isaddonloaded would be simplest |
| 17:34.23 | malreth | you can have a local variable that points to the appropriate function or to nil |
| 17:34.27 | Drea | cause i'm not quite gettin what batrick says. lol |
| 17:34.31 | Kaso | its the most "correct" in my opintion Drea |
| 17:35.01 | Kaso | OnLoad you can check if the other addon is loaded, and set state to work with whichever way it is |
| 17:35.08 | malreth | i'll bash out a quick example |
| 17:35.39 | Drea | that'd be awesome! thanks. :D |
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| 17:45.28 | Drea | mornin Clad |
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| 17:51.36 | malreth | lua> print(false or nil) |
| 17:51.36 | lua_bot | malreth: nil |
| 17:51.44 | cncfanatics | any volunteers to write GUI's around in this chan ? :p |
| 17:51.50 | malreth | lua> print(true or nil) |
| 17:51.50 | lua_bot | malreth: true |
| 17:52.00 | JoshBorke | lua> print(true and nil) |
| 17:52.00 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: nil |
| 17:52.03 | malreth | lua> print(nil or true) |
| 17:52.03 | lua_bot | malreth: true |
| 17:52.05 | malreth | ok |
| 17:52.31 | Kaso | cncfanatics, good luck with that |
| 17:52.40 | cncfanatics | Kaso, I know :p :) |
| 17:52.56 | cncfanatics | lua> print(nil or false) |
| 17:52.56 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: false |
| 17:52.59 | malreth | Drea: untested code... but should work |
| 17:53.00 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/78413 |
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| 17:53.15 | malreth | it illustrates the concept even if the details are incorrect |
| 17:53.38 | malreth | this assumes you place the map addons in your opt dependencies list in the .toc |
| 17:53.52 | Kaso | too lazy or unable to write it yourself cncfanatics ? |
| 17:53.58 | malreth | and it uses ADDON_LOADED instead of VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 17:54.28 | malreth | if you don't use the opt dependencies, then your addon may load before MetaMap/Cartographer/etc and it all breaks |
| 17:55.26 | Drea | awesome. lemme checkit out. :D |
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| 17:55.36 | cncfanatics | Kaso, no time |
| 17:55.49 | cncfanatics | writing it in inself wouldn't be a problem if I had time at hands |
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| 17:59.47 | Drea | if i was to include metamap with my leveling guide addon, then that'd make all this moot, and i could just put it as a optionalDep and do the function regardless. |
| 17:59.58 | Drea | right? |
| 17:59.59 | Drea | lol |
| 18:00.32 | malreth | that makes the assumption that the user will not ever disable metamap |
| 18:00.50 | malreth | or try to use another mapnote addon |
| 18:00.51 | Drea | true. and i wanna make sure i deal with that eventuality. |
| 18:01.10 | malreth | and you have to make sure that you can redistribute metamap legally |
| 18:01.12 | Drea | i dunno that ill deal with other mapnote addons tho. |
| 18:01.22 | Drea | point. |
| 18:01.49 | Drea | i been meanin to talk to metahawk, and see if he'll let me take it over since it's not supportted anymore |
| 18:02.08 | Drea | grr. brb dog needs to crap |
| 18:02.10 | zenzelezz | looking over people's personal notes in my guild is interesting... "Duckface", "The leg spreyer", "Hairy Chicken Legs", "Less Speed, More Haste!", "Concrete cookie" |
| 18:02.12 | Kaso | Drea, you seem to miss-understand the difference between Dependencies and OptionalDependencies |
| 18:02.37 | malreth | zenzelezz: my personal note in the guild is set to "She's my fetish, not yours!" |
| 18:02.39 | haste | zenzelezz: at least your guild note doesn't say "I fap to loli" |
| 18:02.48 | malreth | haste: LOL! |
| 18:03.05 | zenzelezz | these notes are all set by the officers |
| 18:03.15 | Kaso | With a dependency you addon will only load after the addon in question, and only load if it exists, with optional it will load after it if it exists otherwise it will just load in default order. |
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| 18:03.53 | batrick | Kaso, what happens if you have two addons that share optional dependencies of each other? :) |
| 18:03.57 | zenzelezz | some guy's note for a while was "yes, yes, butt, butt" (he was trying to get a word in on Vent one night) |
| 18:04.09 | Cide | does anyone has a shaman and could log him/her on? |
| 18:04.11 | malreth | batrick: the addon loading code has a cyclic dependency check |
| 18:04.12 | Cide | I need a /dump |
| 18:04.33 | Kaso | it does check for recursive dependency loops |
| 18:04.34 | malreth | zenzelezz: my note is also from something i said on vent |
| 18:04.54 | Kaso | i think it just loads the last one before it "loops" first and hopes for the best |
| 18:04.55 | Thunder_Child | Cide, try laxitives |
| 18:05.06 | batrick | i wasn't worried about recursive dependency loops, just which comes first? :) |
| 18:05.08 | Cide | no thanks |
| 18:05.20 | Kaso | the second (last) one |
| 18:05.35 | malreth | zenzelezz: my fiancee has a really high-pitched young sounding voice... she often gets asked to say cute things over vent by the guys in the raiding alliance |
| 18:05.40 | Kaso | a -> b | b -> a :: a is loaded first |
| 18:06.01 | Kaso | s/a is/b is/ |
| 18:06.06 | malreth | zenzelezz: one time, after a few requests went out i blurted out 'She's my fetish, not yours!' |
| 18:06.07 | Kaso | a -> b | b -> c | c -> a :: c is loaded first |
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| 18:06.30 | batrick | right, so optional dependencies isn't necessarily the best way to ensure your addon loads after another |
| 18:06.31 | malreth | much laughter ensued and i found my guild note immediately changed |
| 18:07.26 | Kaso | i cant imagen a set of addons with a cyclic dependency loop forming with malicous intent |
| 18:07.42 | batrick | without? |
| 18:07.46 | Kaso | yes |
| 18:07.49 | batrick | :P |
| 18:08.10 | zenzelezz | oh my, I don't want to know the origin of this note... "Fertile sperm" |
| 18:08.12 | malreth | batrick: the solution to that is to set up your addon-dependency code in ADDON_LOADED whenever the arg1 is the addon you're looking for |
| 18:08.35 | batrick | or you could just do it all in the even after all the ADDON_LOADED events |
| 18:08.37 | batrick | :P |
| 18:08.45 | batrick | end even |
| 18:08.45 | malreth | true... |
| 18:08.55 | malreth | speaking of which... |
| 18:10.00 | malreth | Drea: http://wowi.pastey.net/78415 |
| 18:10.09 | malreth | ignore the second part of what i wrote before |
| 18:10.51 | malreth | although i do like tables of functions better... in fact tables of tables of functions are supreme |
| 18:11.04 | malreth | and tables of tables within tables of functions are epic |
| 18:11.15 | JoshBorke | malreth: what about recursive tables of functions? |
| 18:11.15 | batrick | malreth if ur going to do the checking in ADDON_LOADED you might as well just check the passed values to your function rather than call IsAddOnLoaded |
| 18:11.18 | malreth | but never functions of tables... those are bad |
| 18:11.32 | Kaso | tables with function keys malreth : |
| 18:11.45 | malreth | Kaso: pure evil |
| 18:12.01 | malreth | BEGONE from mine sight! |
| 18:12.18 | JoshBorke | why not just check for teh addons in PL? |
| 18:12.40 | malreth | yes, that would work, too |
| 18:12.45 | malreth | and is probably better |
| 18:13.04 | malreth | also, never listen to me when i talk about writing addons... :D |
| 18:13.14 | JoshBorke | that's probably a good idea malreth |
| 18:13.48 | batrick | dont' encourage a response |
| 18:14.09 | Kaso | is there a DOM implementation in lua? |
| 18:14.30 | malreth | oh i HOPE so!!! |
| 18:15.59 | dylanm_ | I believe there are bindings for your popular xml libs... there's http://monday.sourceforge.net/tools/build/lua-libxml-project.html for libxml, for example. |
| 18:16.04 | dylanm_ | In pure lua... not so sure. |
| 18:16.32 | Kaso | ill take a look at that thanks |
| 18:18.56 | Kaso | itunes just told me it couldnt connect to my iphone, i have an ipod touch, bad coders re-using error messages! |
| 18:21.08 | batrick | how about just bad coders? :) |
| 18:21.13 | Drea | can i do local MySetMapNote in my init function? |
| 18:21.27 | batrick | just remember that it's only local to your function |
| 18:21.43 | Drea | check. nope. got it |
| 18:21.45 | batrick | you have to pull the local outside and assign it a function inside your init func |
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| 18:33.16 | Drea | ok Mal, got it, except i'm not quite understanding the last peice. |
| 18:33.48 | malreth | ignore the last piece |
| 18:33.54 | Drea | oh. |
| 18:34.03 | malreth | look at the followups on pastey |
| 18:34.58 | Kaso | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_is_the_government :D |
| 18:35.20 | malreth | the point of the second part was to show you that functions can be assigned to anything anywhere |
| 18:35.36 | malreth | tables of functions can be mighty useful |
| 18:35.53 | Drea | so in my function, that setups the wording and stuff for the step window. i need to put if MySetMapNote in there? |
| 18:36.09 | Drea | i'm not quite following that part |
| 18:36.21 | malreth | in particular wherever you have a long chain of if-then-elseifs, a function table can give you increased efficiency and easier maintainablity |
| 18:37.06 | batrick | LOL |
| 18:37.08 | malreth | you call that if MySetMapNote then MySetMapNote(blah blah) end wherever it is that you want to set the map notes |
| 18:37.16 | batrick | Kaso that link is great |
| 18:37.35 | Kaso | ONN have some really good videos nowadays |
| 18:38.01 | Drea | hmm. ok i think |
| 18:38.31 | malreth | don't worry... it'll fail horribly if you did it wrong... you'll notice if you don't get it right. :) |
| 18:39.42 | Drea | right on.lol |
| 18:40.09 | batrick | malreth knows that production cycle intimately |
| 18:40.18 | batrick | j/k ;) |
| 18:40.22 | malreth | :) |
| 18:40.49 | malreth | Just keep recompiling until the errors go away! That's my motto! :D |
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| 18:42.52 | malreth | kamdis... what the hell have you been doing to my hookers?!? |
| 18:43.39 | malreth | every night they come back with bruises all over their navels and smelling of paint varnish! |
| 18:43.42 | malreth | WTH man? |
| 18:43.53 | kamdis | :P |
| 18:44.14 | kamdis | <-- is a girl irl, not a man! |
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| 18:44.36 | Cide | then you're definitely not innocent |
| 18:44.55 | kamdis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.02 | malreth | kamdis: as long as your money is green, i don't care how you rock your boat |
| 18:45.22 | malreth | but whatever you're doing to them has gotta stop |
| 18:45.37 | malreth | Candace's ears still haven't stopped ringing since last week! |
| 18:49.13 | zenzelezz | you scared her away you bastard |
| 18:49.47 | malreth | i never had a mother you insensitive clod! |
| 18:54.51 | Drea | gonna have to figure out how to remove all notes from a metamap before setting the note. dang |
| 19:00.00 | Saint-N | kamdis: no pics no proof! |
| 19:00.48 | batrick | she's gone |
| 19:00.54 | batrick | malreth scared her away as usual |
| 19:01.25 | malreth | i have that effect on women |
| 19:02.58 | Thunder_Child | makes us wonder about your fiance |
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| 19:03.23 | malreth | she's hard as fucking nails |
| 19:03.51 | Thunder_Child | i have never seen fucking nails...but your forplay must be interesting |
| 19:04.22 | Thunder_Child | foreplay* |
| 19:05.10 | batrick | i'd say painful not interesting |
| 19:05.14 | malreth | this photo was taken shortly before she broke this girl's neck |
| 19:05.15 | batrick | but I suppose it's a point of view eh |
| 19:05.15 | malreth | http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/496756374/ |
| 19:05.46 | malreth | from what I understand, the victim didn't complement her on her shoes that day |
| 19:05.54 | malreth | *ker-snap*!! |
| 19:05.59 | Thunder_Child | still friends? |
| 19:06.36 | malreth | if by 'friends' you mean she wears her skull on a necklace... then yes |
| 19:07.57 | Cairenn | malreth: she's pretty :) |
| 19:08.12 | malreth | Cairenn: i would agree with you! :D |
| 19:08.40 | Thunder_Child | malreth, you http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/2024094699/ ? |
| 19:08.51 | Industrial | ho-shi! |
| 19:08.52 | malreth | she shattered the camera over my head shortly after taking that picture... she doesn't take kindly to having her photo taken |
| 19:09.05 | malreth | no... that's my friend, Aaron |
| 19:09.59 | malreth | here's part of me... http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/477476606/ |
| 19:10.10 | malreth | mmm... oily forehead |
| 19:10.24 | malreth | dark circles under the eyes from lack of sleep |
| 19:10.40 | zenzelezz | <Pew Pew Kittens of Doom> o_O |
| 19:10.41 | malreth | and stubble from drinking in the morning instead of proper grooming |
| 19:11.17 | malreth | oh... and the receding hair line... a true classic in every sense |
| 19:11.17 | Thunder_Child | malreth, what lens are you using? the stock one doesnt go down to f-2.8 |
| 19:11.36 | malreth | Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM |
| 19:11.52 | malreth | i'm sticking to prime lenses while learning composition |
| 19:11.57 | Thunder_Child | nice, couldnt get into primes though |
| 19:12.42 | malreth | before i got the kit, i thought about the places where i usually end up taking photos... |
| 19:12.55 | malreth | dark indoor areas at dusk or evening |
| 19:12.57 | malreth | poor lighting |
| 19:13.01 | malreth | and people moving around |
| 19:13.11 | Thunder_Child | ya, thats why i am going to get Sigma Zoom 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS |
| 19:13.19 | Thunder_Child | s/get/get a / |
| 19:13.28 | Thunder_Child | lens |
| 19:13.54 | Cide | anyone's got a good example of a 'book' object? |
| 19:14.16 | Cide | i.e. one that opens the frame where you can read and switch pages |
| 19:14.42 | Cide | that is easy to get to for alliance characters (that means no SM) |
| 19:15.08 | malreth | Cide: they're all over the world |
| 19:15.13 | malreth | some in SW castle |
| 19:15.14 | Gngsk | stormwind library? |
| 19:15.22 | Cide | ah, thanks |
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| 19:24.17 | wereHamster | malreth, this is nice: http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/139078998/ |
| 19:24.47 | bleeter | ahhh, the early morning scream of horror |
| 19:25.11 | bleeter | anyone got any news on maintenance? |
| 19:25.37 | bleeter | I guess I could go read the PTR forum and try to read between the lines :/ |
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| 19:25.44 | bleeter | less than 12 hours notice ftw! |
| 19:31.06 | Cide | anyone with a mac client logged on wow? |
| 19:31.14 | Cide | nevermind |
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| 19:58.05 | Cairenn | Antiarc: (responding to your 3am question) - no, I don't have the link for the infected files from incgamers yet - do you still have it lying around? |
| 20:03.58 | Drea | i think i've missed doing something. |
| 20:04.09 | Drea | Malreth still here? |
| 20:04.36 | malreth | <phone sex operator voice> i hear... |
| 20:04.48 | Drea | i keep gettin setMapNote is set to nil. :( |
| 20:04.55 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 20:04.56 | Drea | why might that be? |
| 20:04.57 | Cide | @ Drea |
| 20:05.14 | malreth | your code for setting SetMapNote to a value isn't being called |
| 20:05.25 | malreth | or the logic has a flaw in it |
| 20:05.47 | malreth | i take off my shirt and rub oil onto my chest |
| 20:05.49 | Drea | that is what i thought, i'm wondering is there somethin i need to do to get it to run OnAddonLoaded? |
| 20:06.04 | JoshBorke | wow, this room was so much better when malreth was in jail |
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| 20:06.15 | malreth | you need to register for an event |
| 20:06.29 | malreth | after discussion, PLAYER_LOGIN is probably the best one |
| 20:06.53 | malreth | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) |
| 20:07.11 | Drea | awesome. i figured that's where i screwed up |
| 20:07.37 | malreth | i lick my finger and rub my nipples |
| 20:08.10 | malreth | ooh... you like that kind of play? i'm game. |
| 20:08.26 | Drea | can i do it in my OnLoad function? |
| 20:11.25 | JoshBorke | you should do it where you regisetr for other events |
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| 20:12.01 | Drea | so after readin, i'm thinkin, in the XML i do <OnLoad>LevelGuide_OnLoad()</OnLoad> and in the OnLoad funciton in lua, i do |
| 20:12.22 | MentalPower | <OnLoad>LevelGuide_OnLoad(self)</OnLoad> |
| 20:12.40 | Drea | this:RegisterEvent(PlAYER_LOGIN); |
| 20:12.53 | JoshBorke | events are strings, not variables |
| 20:12.57 | MentalPower | self:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN") |
| 20:13.05 | MentalPower | use self whenever possible |
| 20:13.12 | Drea | right. |
| 20:13.26 | Drea | likely i'll just do the frame name instead of self or this |
| 20:13.30 | krka | just dont abuse your self |
| 20:13.41 | Drea | LevelGuide:RegsiterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN"); |
| 20:13.56 | Drea | but after that is where i'm kinda confuzzled. |
| 20:14.00 | JoshBorke | krka: what about malreth's self, can i abuse that? |
| 20:14.39 | Drea | do i need an OnEvent? |
| 20:14.58 | JoshBorke | how else is the code going to respond to events? |
| 20:15.05 | Drea | point. |
| 20:15.21 | MentalPower | Drea: thats no better |
| 20:15.21 | Drea | JoshBorke 1, Drea -50 |
| 20:17.00 | Drea | <--- confusion reigns |
| 20:18.20 | JoshBorke | self is confusing |
| 20:18.47 | Drea | no no . not confused about self. |
| 20:19.06 | foxlit | self isn't this, kill it! |
| 20:19.28 | Shirik|Ghost | ~this |
| 20:19.38 | Shirik|Ghost | purl, this is evil. Kill it! |
| 20:19.39 | purl | Shirik|Ghost: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:19.46 | Shirik|Ghost | purl, \this is evil. Kill it! |
| 20:19.46 | purl | Shirik|Ghost: okay |
| 20:19.50 | Drea | malreth gave me a pastey to use earlier. i'm just confused how to register the loaded addon, and get the functions to run. |
| 20:19.55 | Shirik|Ghost | ~this |
| 20:19.56 | purl | well, this is evil. Kill it! |
| 20:20.01 | Drea | http://wowi.pastey.net/78416-1jtq |
| 20:20.02 | Shirik|Ghost | perfect. |
| 20:20.45 | Drea | if u look at that.. when i get to if MySetMapNote then MySetMapNote(x,y,note) end ... it don't run, cause MySetMapNote is nil |
| 20:22.14 | Drea | and hesaid to register it to PLAYER_LOGIN but i'm just not doin it right? |
| 20:27.08 | reqol | MentalPower: thanks for the help last night, I was able to get it completely up and running shortly after you went to sleep. |
| 20:27.21 | MentalPower | reqol: woot, glad to hear it |
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| 20:37.07 | JoshBorke | Drea: what calls OnPlayerLogin? |
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| 20:37.22 | bleeter | reqol: did you publish it on WoW Interface? |
| 20:37.33 | Drea | 'er. nothing? |
| 20:37.43 | Drea | where should i call that? OnLoad? |
| 20:37.49 | JoshBorke | when the event fires |
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| 20:38.44 | bleeter | heya lippy, oh ye refuge from #norganna with a generic API question |
| 20:38.49 | bleeter | refugee |
| 20:39.57 | Drea | so setup an <OnEvent> and have it run in there ? |
| 20:41.23 | JoshBorke | yes, the code in <OnEvent>...</OnEvent> is called when a registered event is fired |
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| 20:42.44 | Lippy | ah the one at the bottom |
| 20:42.49 | Lippy | cheers |
| 20:43.17 | Drea | sweet! and i could just do it in the XML right? <OnEvent>OnPlayerLogin(addon);</OnEvent> |
| 20:43.27 | JoshBorke | if that is your only event, then yes |
| 20:43.40 | Lippy | anyone got any idea about how to get map addon working |
| 20:43.43 | JoshBorke | but PL does not have any arguments afaik |
| 20:44.12 | TecnoBrat | Cairenn, yikes about that keylogger :( |
| 20:44.18 | MentalPower | Drea: don't you have an event registered already? |
| 20:44.23 | Cairenn | TecnoBrat: yeah :( |
| 20:44.23 | Drea | yes |
| 20:44.32 | MentalPower | then use that |
| 20:44.38 | TecnoBrat | That sounds like a wonderful way to wake up at 2an |
| 20:44.39 | TecnoBrat | am* |
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| 20:44.53 | Drea | in the lua in the OnLoad i did levelGuide:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN"); |
| 20:45.01 | MentalPower | Lippy: if you could be a bit more specific... |
| 20:45.03 | Drea | but then what? |
| 20:45.31 | MentalPower | Drea: did you read the blurb on wowwiki about using events? |
| 20:46.31 | MentalPower | Drea: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) |
| 20:46.43 | malreth | so i guess my parole officer monitors my internet chat |
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| 20:46.47 | Drea | yup. and it seems like once you've registered the event, you have to run the function that does something with the event. |
| 20:46.52 | Drea | so confused. |
| 20:48.29 | malreth | when you register an event, the game will call your frame's OnEvent handler |
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| 20:48.53 | malreth | sorry... it'll call that OnEvent handler whenever that event fires |
| 20:49.51 | JoshBorke | when you register an event on a frame, it will call the frame's OnEvent handler that is set by calling frame:SetScript("OnEvent", <function>) or <OnEvent>(insert function here)</OnEvent> |
| 20:50.55 | Rayne | Need some opinions if anyone has a moment |
| 20:50.57 | kadrahil | ^ is a nub |
| 20:50.59 | kadrahil | err |
| 20:51.05 | kadrahil | ^ being JoshBorke |
| 20:51.27 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: l2lua |
| 20:51.28 | JoshBorke | !c us stormreaver dagh |
| 20:51.30 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 7271 HP; 7665 Mana; 155 mana regen; 60 mp5; 111 spell crit; 90 spell hit; 893 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (1072); 230 shadow dmg (1123); 4.82% dodge; 25 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1466 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25cjtb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmaya ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 15:51:56 2007 EST ]] |
| 20:51.47 | malreth | hey.. JoshBorke may be many things like a liar and a cheat but he's not a nub |
| 20:51.52 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: 25 resilience, pro |
| 20:51.58 | kadrahil | :P |
| 20:52.10 | kadrahil | malreth: i play horde on his server, i'm allowed to call him a nub ;D |
| 20:52.32 | Rayne | Well ill just talk, feel free to answer. |
| 20:52.37 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: i got the crusade trinket today :-D |
| 20:52.45 | malreth | yes... opinions... i got lots |
| 20:52.47 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: :D |
| 20:52.58 | kadrahil | JoshBorke: i'm setting aside my huntard and levelling a priest |
| 20:53.00 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: all i need now are new gloves and a new neck |
| 20:53.13 | kadrahil | cool |
| 20:53.21 | Rayne | First response to my new UI layout last night: 'Only problem I see is the mob's casting bar overlapping the debuffs. Perhaps you could move the hotbar down a bit and place the casting bar underneath the unit frame? Though I suppose the bar below the ToT would seem a bit out of place if you did that.' |
| 20:53.54 | Rayne | Heres what I end up with: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_120307_154838.jpg , and heres while casting. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_120307_155001.jpg |
| 20:54.03 | malreth | oh... nm. i have little to no opinions on UI layouts |
| 20:54.15 | Rayne | my question, is the distance while not casting too much? kinda looks odd to me. |
| 20:54.22 | JoshBorke | it looks fine to me |
| 20:54.43 | JoshBorke | but why are the times different o.O |
| 20:55.02 | Rayne | a thing quartz has for lag |
| 20:55.05 | Rayne | its wierd |
| 20:55.15 | JoshBorke | and why not use the unitframes cast bars? |
| 20:55.16 | kadrahil | yeah, it adds in lag to the castbar |
| 20:55.42 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: i much prefer to have my castbar show the lag as a red portion at the end |
| 20:56.03 | Rayne | I dont like the pitbull one for some reason, never have |
| 20:56.20 | Rayne | that and I use quartz for my swing timer and mirror bar |
| 20:56.25 | kadrahil | wow, 2g per primal earth |
| 20:56.46 | JoshBorke | that's cheap |
| 20:56.52 | JoshBorke | compared to alliance SR |
| 20:56.54 | kadrahil | yeah, it goes for 5-6g on SR |
| 20:56.58 | kadrahil | horde at least |
| 20:57.08 | JoshBorke | i think it's 4-5 on alliance |
| 20:57.22 | Rayne | Dont come to KJ its a hole |
| 20:57.23 | JoshBorke | !vs us drenden kimina us stormreaver dagh |
| 20:57.26 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: Kimina vs Dagh! Two 70 priests square off!; 20/41/0 vs 14/0/47; Kimina wins by 256 TBRs! |
| 20:57.27 | kadrahil | well, we all know alliance is lame anyway |
| 20:57.33 | Rayne | the gap between low end guilds and top end guilds is horrendous |
| 20:57.56 | kadrahil | stormreaver horde doesn't even have a guild that has cleared all of BT and hyjal yet |
| 20:58.07 | kadrahil | while alliance has like 3 |
| 20:58.22 | kadrahil | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/stormreaver/ |
| 20:59.03 | kadrahil | stupid armory hasn't updated my gear or spec since i logged out a few days ago |
| 21:00.01 | malreth | stupid armory? |
| 21:00.10 | malreth | !c us silver hand malreth |
| 21:00.10 | ThraeBot | malreth: malreth is not the character you are looking for! |
| 21:00.18 | malreth | i still don't exist |
| 21:00.34 | kadrahil | lol |
| 21:00.40 | kadrahil | !c us stormreaver kadrahil |
| 21:00.42 | ThraeBot | kadrahil: Kadrahil, Level 70 Blood Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 8629 HP; 6733 Mana; 113 mana regen; 34 mp5; 6186 Armour; 1500 AP; 221.100 Melee DPS; 21.07% melee crit; 121 melee hit; 1604 RAP; 337.10 Ranged DPS; 27.34% ranged crit; 121 ranged hit; 18.75% dodge; 33 resilience;[[ TBR: 1060 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2dkq3m ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2o7umy ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 16:01:07 2007 EST ]] |
| 21:00.51 | JoshBorke | #33, woot! |
| 21:00.55 | kadrahil | :X |
| 21:01.01 | kadrahil | see, i logged out with 153 resilience |
| 21:01.07 | kadrahil | and a completely different spec for pvp |
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| 21:08.18 | malreth | http://lifehacker.com/software/clever-uses/open-clamshell-packaging-with-a-can-opener-329188.php |
| 21:13.08 | Rayne | oooohh heroic Slave Pens today |
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| 21:15.00 | malreth | grammar nazis... lulz: http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2007-11-30.gif |
| 21:15.37 | sysrage | heh |
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| 21:17.57 | cladhaire | wow |
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| 21:18.03 | cladhaire | 2000 to 107 EoTS match |
| 21:18.20 | Michelle_ | hello |
| 21:18.35 | Michelle_ | i was wonderign if i can get soem help with three fo my macros im makign for my mage |
| 21:19.39 | Michelle_ | sorry |
| 21:19.42 | Michelle_ | ill try and type slower |
| 21:20.09 | MentalPower | at any rate, have you read cogwheel's macro guide in the forums? |
| 21:20.24 | Michelle_ | im tryign to make three macros for my mage, oen for the arcane spells, oen for my fire spells, and a third oen for my frost spells |
| 21:20.36 | Michelle_ | yes and it hasnt helped me, all 17 of the pages i read |
| 21:21.05 | MentalPower | I'm not a macro guru, but I'll see what I can do |
| 21:21.11 | MentalPower | what are you trying to do? |
| 21:22.14 | Michelle_ | waht im tryignt o do is make a macro that uses 4 way sof modifiers |
| 21:22.27 | Michelle_ | in a simple pres i ant it to do oen thing when nto in combat, and anotehr when in combat |
| 21:22.38 | Michelle_ | my alt press to do the same, |
| 21:22.53 | Michelle_ | and then as for the shift and control click, to do oen thign all the time |
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| 21:23.47 | Saint-N | wouldnt it be just as easy to make 4 macros and use keybindings? |
| 21:24.15 | Saint-N | or even click casting for that matter |
| 21:25.22 | Michelle_ | naw |
| 21:25.29 | Michelle_ | nto tthe way im settign up these macros |
| 21:25.35 | Michelle_ | as im makign them also for distribution |
| 21:25.46 | Michelle_ | and i want them to be simple to deploy |
| 21:25.54 | Michelle_ | jstu drop to a hotbar buttion nad spam away |
| 21:26.08 | Michelle_ | heres the fire spell im workign on |
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| 21:26.20 | Michelle_ | #showtooltip |
| 21:26.21 | Michelle_ | /startattack |
| 21:26.23 | Michelle_ | /cast [nomodifier] Fireball |
| 21:26.24 | Michelle_ | /cast [modifier:alt,combat] Scorch; Pyroblast |
| 21:26.26 | Michelle_ | /cast [modifier:Ctrl] FlameStrike |
| 21:26.27 | Michelle_ | /cast [modifier:Shift] Fire Ward |
| 21:26.28 | MentalPower | eek, stop! |
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| 21:26.41 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 21:26.51 | MentalPower | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 21:26.52 | JoshBorke | Michelle_: use pastey.net for multi-line things please |
| 21:26.59 | Michelle_ | topic is hidden as per my settigns |
| 21:27.08 | MentalPower | thats generally a bad idea |
| 21:27.16 | sysrage | holy moly. that macro would make me suck |
| 21:27.20 | malreth | you don't need a /startattack... mages don't smack thing |
| 21:27.26 | Saint-N | i think the only thing missing as far as those lines go is a target |
| 21:27.34 | Michelle_ | the start attack makes it so that i target nearest |
| 21:27.36 | MentalPower | a *very* bad idea in most channels |
| 21:27.37 | JoshBorke | malreth: neither do priests, but i still make sure to right click |
| 21:27.51 | bleeter | anyone got any news on maintenance tonight? |
| 21:28.04 | MentalPower | Michelle_: /targetnearest ? |
| 21:28.06 | Saint-N | bleeter: yeah they're dleteing all your accounts and ip banning you |
| 21:28.13 | Michelle_ | mental , may i go private then if these peopel dotn liek copy pasta |
| 21:28.17 | bleeter | Saint-N: woohoo |
| 21:28.34 | malreth | just go to wowi.pastey.net and we can all work on it together |
| 21:28.36 | MentalPower | you can't do pricate |
| 21:28.44 | MentalPower | s/ca/va/ |
| 21:28.48 | Saint-N | i might be wrong but i assume it's you since they were quoted as saying it about "that rat bastard in the ui chyannel that does wine crap" |
| 21:29.06 | Michelle_ | well then ill contenue |
| 21:29.08 | MentalPower | s/cat/vat/ |
| 21:29.09 | Michelle_ | as for my macro |
| 21:29.13 | Michelle_ | the normal hit works |
| 21:29.17 | Michelle_ | the nomodiifer line |
| 21:29.21 | bleeter | Saint-N: "that rat bastard in the ui chan who does wine crap" << that'd be kd3, not me ;) |
| 21:29.22 | Michelle_ | aswella s teh alt modifier line |
| 21:29.30 | Michelle_ | but when i try to use teh shift or control modiifer |
| 21:29.30 | Saint-N | oh my bad then ;) |
| 21:29.41 | Michelle_ | it shiows up as teh alt modifier press |
| 21:29.59 | buu | Michelle_: Your typing is awesomely poor. |
| 21:30.02 | buu | Are you drunk? |
| 21:30.06 | Saint-N | Michelle_: change the order so that it checks the control and shift before the alt? |
| 21:30.06 | Michelle_ | thanks, i try |
| 21:30.15 | Michelle_ | il ill try that, brb |
| 21:30.28 | Saint-N | not that it should matter but shrug like i know macros ;P |
| 21:31.00 | buu | The obvious guess is that you shouldn't capitalize 'Ctrl'.. |
| 21:31.02 | Michelle_ | the tol tip message shows correctly now, but its givvign me an error message conistant with that of my fireball spell |
| 21:31.07 | Saint-N | and as a side note incase its case senetive, alt isnt capitialized while ctrl and shift are |
| 21:31.22 | Saint-N | heh yeah buu |
| 21:31.26 | Saint-N | go for the eyes! |
| 21:31.28 | Valaron|Work | As a conditional? |
| 21:31.30 | Valaron|Work | No. |
| 21:31.41 | Valaron|Work | mod:shift, mod:alt, mod:ctrl |
| 21:32.16 | Michelle_ | so i shoudl replace modfifier:alt with mod:alt |
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| 21:32.35 | Valaron|Work | Doesn't matter. modifier:alt is the same as mod:alt. |
| 21:32.43 | Valaron|Work | Shorthand |
| 21:33.02 | Saint-N | i think he was meaning mod:ctrl instead of mod:Ctrl |
| 21:33.14 | Valaron|Work | Yeah |
| 21:33.20 | malreth | FlameStrike is incorrect... it's Flamestrike |
| 21:33.22 | Saint-N | note the capital C |
| 21:34.09 | bleeter | Luke1410: why would they actually need to be case sensitive anyways? |
| 21:34.13 | buu | CAPITALS ARE COMPLICATED. |
| 21:34.18 | bleeter | bah, scratch that luke bit, generic question |
| 21:34.31 | bleeter | buu: ORLY? |
| 21:34.48 | buu | bleeter: Yes. |
| 21:34.56 | Michelle_ | ok nwo my shift click is nwo workign, i got fireward |
| 21:34.58 | buu | bleeter: As evidenced by Michelle_'s hilarious failures. |
| 21:35.09 | Michelle_ | but flamestrike still, is nto |
| 21:35.16 | buu | Michelle_: You've got problems. |
| 21:35.22 | JoshBorke | Michelle_: you can shift click spells into the macro |
| 21:35.24 | Michelle_ | yes, i need a spell checker |
| 21:35.26 | malreth | ^ malreth: FlameStrike is incorrect... it's Flamestrike |
| 21:35.31 | JoshBorke | buu: you've got mail |
| 21:35.36 | Michelle_ | i already fixed that typo |
| 21:36.47 | buu | JoshBorke: I know, it's all spam. |
| 21:38.22 | malreth | it seems that the logic in your macro tries to cast both Fireball and Pyroblast when you have no modfiers down |
| 21:39.11 | Michelle_ | ok |
| 21:39.17 | Michelle_ | so then ill rebuild |
| 21:39.23 | laindir | actually, it tries to catch pyro even when a modifier is down o.O |
| 21:40.00 | Michelle_ | hwo can i register my name |
| 21:40.00 | laindir | it's an empty conditional... always evaluates true |
| 21:40.06 | Michelle_ | so i can private one of you smart people |
| 21:40.07 | bleeter | Michelle_: /msg nickserv help |
| 21:40.12 | malreth | also, if you have the macro on your action bar, make sure you don't have ctrl-1, ctrl-2, etc bound |
| 21:40.19 | laindir | right |
| 21:40.20 | Michelle_ | they are not |
| 21:40.26 | bleeter | like it says at login |
| 21:40.56 | MentalPower | Michelle_: private messages are considered rude |
| 21:41.06 | MentalPower | theres a lot more brains in the channel |
| 21:41.14 | MentalPower | and everyone can contribute and learn |
| 21:41.18 | Michelle_ | well i dotn know how else im goign to please you guys when im pasting multilined macros |
| 21:41.25 | buu | WE TOLD YOU TO READ THE TOPIC |
| 21:41.29 | buu | WHY DO YOU FIND THIS DIFFICULT. |
| 21:41.30 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 21:41.45 | Michelle_ | no need to yell hun |
| 21:41.54 | buu | Dunno, nothing else seemed to work. |
| 21:42.06 | buu | Anyway, speaking of macros, if I want to kill totems, you place the totem with highest priority at the end, right? |
| 21:42.10 | Michelle_ | yell at your screen, nto at us |
| 21:42.23 | MentalPower | ~calm buu |
| 21:42.23 | purl | ACTION sooths buu, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm buu down. |
| 21:42.31 | buu | Michelle_: Learn to type, learn to read the topic, don't paste code, don't randomly private message people. |
| 21:42.35 | JoshBorke | buu: top |
| 21:42.39 | buu | JoshBorke: Really? |
| 21:42.48 | bleeter | I LIKE CAKE! |
| 21:42.51 | buu | JoshBorke: I thought it would target all of them like instantly and then execute the attack. |
| 21:42.56 | laindir | buu: you can't use fall-through targeting any more |
| 21:43.08 | MentalPower | bleeter: the cake is a lie :) |
| 21:43.09 | buu | laindir: Oh. Huh. |
| 21:43.23 | JoshBorke | wait, i'm thinking of casting,s orry |
| 21:43.26 | bleeter | MentalPower: I prefer pie, I just wanted to do a random Father Jack quote :P |
| 21:43.29 | buu | Heh. |
| 21:43.32 | laindir | happened the same time they broke other logic iirc |
| 21:43.53 | MentalPower | bleeter: and I just wanted to spread GlaDOS foo :P |
| 21:44.05 | Michelle_ | how do i use this wowi.pastey.net thing |
| 21:44.35 | MentalPower | type your foo, hit paste, copy link paste link here |
| 21:44.38 | JoshBorke | Michelle_: you go to the website, put your text in the box, then click submit |
| 21:44.43 | JoshBorke | once you get a link back, paste it here |
| 21:44.56 | Michelle_ | http://wowi.pastey.net/78424-1w9z |
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| 21:45.02 | Michelle_ | thsi seems to complicated |
| 21:45.02 | thunderchld | Who has my name? |
| 21:45.07 | kadrahil | lol |
| 21:45.18 | kadrahil | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.19 | Michelle_ | woudnt it be easyer to just put up with pastes in chat |
| 21:45.27 | MentalPower | thunderchld: no one |
| 21:45.31 | malreth | Michelle_: no |
| 21:45.35 | MentalPower | Michelle_: no |
| 21:45.37 | thunderchld | Thunder_Child: I demand to know why you think I am so utterly cool to have my name! |
| 21:45.46 | kadrahil | :D |
| 21:45.47 | laindir | Michelle_: as typed, it's trying to cast Pyroblast always... when do you want to Pyro? |
| 21:46.06 | Michelle_ | i want pyro when i am not in combat, and holdign alt |
| 21:46.08 | bleeter | Michelle_: yes, it'd be far easier when more than one person is pasting code at the same time, interspersing lines inbetween each other, etc. etc. You'll find that paste bin stuff like pastey is common on most, if not all, coding IRC channels that have high traffic |
| 21:46.12 | malreth | this creates a threaded conversation on the pastey so that we all don't post code over and on top of each other in an orgy of geekdom and confusion |
| 21:46.17 | Drea | SOOO.. i need to do an <OnEvent>OnPlayerLogin(addon)</OnEvent> in the xml. |
| 21:46.21 | Rayne | god I forgot the console command so you can fly upside down on your mounts |
| 21:46.23 | Rayne | >_< |
| 21:46.35 | bleeter | thunderchld: /msg nickserv ghost Thunder_Child <your password> |
| 21:46.47 | malreth | Drea: did someone tell you to do an .xml file? |
| 21:46.59 | malreth | oh... |
| 21:47.02 | thunderchld | LOL |
| 21:47.07 | Drea | no, but i already have one, and figure that would be the best place to do it |
| 21:47.07 | malreth | wait, you already have an .xml in your addon |
| 21:47.09 | Rayne | is it /console pitch #### ? |
| 21:47.12 | malreth | right |
| 21:47.15 | thunderchld | They are not even here. It is no fun! |
| 21:47.28 | JoshBorke | Rayne: pitchLimit |
| 21:47.29 | MentalPower | Rayne: /console pitchLimit 999999 |
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| 21:47.48 | Drea | awesome lets see if it works |
| 21:48.05 | JoshBorke | Drea: as i said before, i don't believe PLAYER_LOGIN has any parameters and they definitely wouldn't be called addon |
| 21:48.30 | Michelle_ | laindir hwo woudl i fix it so that the macro works as intended |
| 21:48.56 | thunderchld | I'll try back tomorrow |
| 21:49.07 | malreth | Drea: sorry... i meant "right... you already have an xml file" not "right, that's how you call your function in the OnEvent handler |
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| 21:49.52 | Drea | IsAddonLoaded needs to be preceded by somethin huh? |
| 21:49.59 | Drea | frame:IsAddonLoaded? |
| 21:49.59 | malreth | Drea: you must remove the argument in your function call since it will try to reference a global variable named addon which will probably not exist |
| 21:50.25 | malreth | Drea: only if IsAddonLoaded is defined as a method on an object |
| 21:50.32 | malreth | which in this case is no |
| 21:50.39 | malreth | actually in any case it's not |
| 21:50.40 | malreth | no |
| 21:50.51 | Drea | cause it's givin me an error sayin IsAddonLoaded is nil |
| 21:50.53 | malreth | IsAddonLoaded is just a global function |
| 21:51.02 | malreth | sorry... it's IsAddOnLoaded |
| 21:51.05 | malreth | capital O |
| 21:51.13 | malreth | !api IsAddOnLoaded |
| 21:51.13 | ThraeBot | malreth: loaded = IsAddOnLoaded(index or "name") -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsAddOnLoaded |
| 21:51.39 | Drea | check. thanks |
| 21:53.05 | malreth | Michelle_: as for your addon... you should be able to write it all in one /cast line |
| 21:53.23 | malreth | which means you don't need the [nomod] conditional |
| 21:53.23 | Drea | crap i think i broke metamap |
| 21:53.24 | Michelle_ | ik nto writign an addon |
| 21:53.32 | Michelle_ | im tryign to write a macro for three spell classes |
| 21:53.38 | laindir | *macro... working on it, link coming shortly :) |
| 21:53.42 | malreth | riiiiiiight.... |
| 21:54.05 | malreth | who said anything about writing an addon? |
| 21:54.38 | Drea | i shall cry |
| 21:54.42 | Drea | like a little girl |
| 21:54.46 | Drea | waaaaah |
| 21:54.55 | Michelle_ | waht i dotn get is that my arcane spell macro is basically the same setup, and all teh modifiers work as intended, bt yet the spells for my frost and fire spells int eh other two macros does nto workl |
| 21:55.14 | Saint-N | im gonna guess typos |
| 21:55.19 | malreth | agreed |
| 21:55.25 | Michelle_ | ill retype slowly |
| 21:55.41 | malreth | retyping isn't going to help, i don't think |
| 21:55.45 | laindir | http://wowi.pastey.net/78426 should work correctly |
| 21:56.12 | Michelle_ | what i dotn get is that my arcane spells work as intended, the shift, alt, control and no modiifier works, but i used teh same codign for the fire and frost spells, but yet they dotn work, even though my arcane spelsl do, |
| 21:56.32 | Drea | lets see a pastey. :D |
| 21:56.39 | malreth | Michelle_: check out laindir's macro that he posted |
| 21:56.41 | MentalPower | laindir: why /startattack instead of /targetnearest ? |
| 21:56.44 | Saint-N | im gonna guess typos |
| 21:56.59 | Michelle_ | also if im out of mana, i start attack |
| 21:57.15 | laindir | didn't want to change it if it worked, (one or two problems at a time ~.^) ...but /targetnearestenemy is probably more appropriate |
| 21:57.19 | malreth | it's better to wand if you're out of mana |
| 21:57.41 | Michelle_ | wand is an alt on a main attack macro |
| 21:57.57 | Michelle_ | oen that castsequence, frostbolt, firball, arcane missiels x3 |
| 21:58.00 | Michelle_ | repeaste |
| 21:58.08 | buu | what the fuck? |
| 21:58.34 | Michelle_ | im osrry, if my english si nto good, my native language is かたかな |
| 21:59.08 | Michelle_ | im sorry if my english is nto good |
| 21:59.17 | Michelle_ | my native janguage is japanese |
| 21:59.29 | Michelle_ | that new macro works at intended |
| 21:59.35 | laindir | yay :D |
| 21:59.50 | Michelle_ | nwo to get it to work for the arcane and frost spells, i jsut need to change teh spell names right? |
| 22:00.11 | laindir | if there're no differences in the logic, then yes |
| 22:00.19 | Michelle_ | ok |
| 22:00.27 | Michelle_ | thankyou for puttign up with my lack of english |
| 22:00.38 | Michelle_ | its nto an easy language to pick up |
| 22:01.00 | malreth | i thought that was spelled nihongo... not katakana |
| 22:01.31 | Michelle_ | i said katakana becuse that is the typei was usign to type with |
| 22:01.55 | malreth | 日本語 |
| 22:02.04 | malreth | there it goes |
| 22:02.29 | laindir | ahhh... keyboard map troubles... my typing is probably equally as bad in cyrillic |
| 22:02.31 | Michelle_ | is that a software based trnaslator? |
| 22:03.00 | Michelle_ | hmm |
| 22:03.03 | malreth | no... i took two years of japanese in college... they taught us how to use ワプロ |
| 22:03.05 | Michelle_ | oen last problem |
| 22:03.20 | Michelle_ | my arcane macro |
| 22:03.22 | JoshBorke | all i see are weird blocks |
| 22:03.23 | Michelle_ | when i use alt |
| 22:03.26 | Michelle_ | and not incombat |
| 22:03.36 | Saint-N | thats because you're a racist josh ;) |
| 22:03.42 | Michelle_ | i want it to use arcane explosion rank1 and when incombat highest rank |
| 22:03.45 | Michelle_ | oen sec |
| 22:03.48 | Michelle_ | let me make a copy pasta |
| 22:04.14 | Saint-N | so about 5 pages back we said "syntax" was the problem |
| 22:04.24 | Saint-N | yet somehow it's STILL the problem ;P |
| 22:04.37 | Michelle_ | http://wowi.pastey.net/78427-3e5r |
| 22:05.04 | Saint-N | ^^ syntax issue ;P |
| 22:05.21 | cladhaire | okay |
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| 22:06.56 | laindir | the underlying problem is that "[conditional] spell; spell" is the same as "[conditional] spell; []spell" ...the second part always evaluates true |
| 22:07.37 | laindir | but it won't cast because Arcane Missiles comes first |
| 22:07.53 | laindir | adding [mod:alt,combat] should do the trick |
| 22:08.15 | laindir | or you can copy the frost/fire macro and just change spell names |
| 22:08.26 | Michelle_ | just did for the arcane |
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| 22:13.13 | Michelle_ | that seesm to haev doen teh trick |
| 22:13.19 | Michelle_ | laindir |
| 22:13.30 | laindir | good to hear :) |
| 22:13.38 | Michelle_ | remind me to buy you a sandwich and a hot chocholate when i see you next |
| 22:13.44 | laindir | :D |
| 22:14.14 | Michelle_ | also next tiem you see me |
| 22:14.25 | Michelle_ | ill be usign my ID number, instead of thsi name |
| 22:14.31 | Drea | great. |
| 22:14.43 | _malreth | Did you kill Michelle and take her name? |
| 22:14.44 | Drea | now when i bring up metamap. i can't change the map. lol |
| 22:14.46 | _malreth | oooh... too late |
| 22:14.56 | _malreth | aaaah! |
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| 22:15.06 | AU518987077 | witch woudl be now |
| 22:15.16 | AU518987077 | laindir, hwo would i rregister my name |
| 22:15.39 | malreth | MY NAME!!! |
| 22:16.41 | laindir | "/nickserv help" would get you started ...otherwise it's explained in detail in the FAQ on the website |
| 22:17.03 | Drea | and none of the dropdowns on metamap work. damnit. lol. i reinstalled it and nothin. lame. |
| 22:17.24 | AU518987077 | am i nwo registered? |
| 22:17.25 | malreth | Drea: does metamap even work on its own? |
| 22:17.39 | Drea | it did till i finally got it all working. lol |
| 22:17.55 | Drea | i mean till i got the setting map note stuff working |
| 22:18.13 | malreth | meh... it's probably something you screwed up. :P |
| 22:18.21 | AU518987077 | ok take care |
| 22:18.29 | Drea | yup. lol |
| 22:18.30 | malreth | you broke it... you get to keep both pieces |
| 22:18.37 | Drea | i know it |
| 22:18.40 | AU518987077 | and by the way, laindir, its will eba subway club sandwitch and a hot chocholate form 7-11 |
| 22:18.41 | Drea | blah |
| 22:18.55 | laindir | mmmm... |
| 22:18.58 | malreth | cheap! |
| 22:19.15 | AU518987077 | i onyl carry 7 dolelrs on me at any given time |
| 22:19.33 | AU518987077 | enough for a bus ride back home if im ever stranded |
| 22:19.34 | malreth | AU518987077: that is smart |
| 22:19.40 | malreth | i do the same thing in case of muggers |
| 22:19.53 | AU518987077 | yeah, calgary is becomign more violent |
| 22:20.03 | malreth | canada has violence? |
| 22:20.09 | AU518987077 | well, teh downtown core is anyways |
| 22:20.13 | AU518987077 | toodles |
| 22:20.33 | Drea | removing the folders and reinstalling them |
| 22:20.37 | Drea | should have fixd it. |
| 22:21.10 | Drea | but didn't. |
| 22:22.10 | Drea | I'm gonna blame it on JoshBorke |
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| 22:22.52 | JoshBorke | i'll take the blame |
| 22:23.19 | Drea | phew. thanks! |
| 22:23.24 | Drea | i was worried for a minnit |
| 22:25.16 | Drea | hmm. nothing we did could account for this riht mal? |
| 22:29.21 | Drea | i mean, all this does is check to see if metamap is running right? |
| 22:30.28 | JoshBorke | hm, mal left |
| 22:30.46 | Drea | oh. damn. i feel stupid. |
| 22:30.49 | JoshBorke | i've determined you should go back to using OnAddonLoaded |
| 22:30.54 | JoshBorke | or whatever the event is |
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| 22:31.07 | JoshBorke | that way you can handle metamap or cartographer being loaded LoD |
| 22:32.24 | Drea | instead of PLAYER_LOGIN? |
| 22:32.29 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 22:33.00 | Shirik | ADDON_LOADED |
| 22:33.12 | Drea | awesome lets give that whirl |
| 22:33.50 | Thunder_Child | WOMEN_LOADED |
| 22:33.52 | Drea | hmm. metamap, still don't work right |
| 22:33.58 | JoshBorke | lua> math.power(2, 8) |
| 22:33.58 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: [string "math.power(2, 8)"]:1: attempt to call field 'power' (a nil value) |
| 22:34.01 | JoshBorke | lua> math.pow(2, 8) |
| 22:34.02 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 256, |
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| 22:34.20 | Shirik | cmon JoshBorke you should have that memorized |
| 22:34.33 | JoshBorke | i have to count on my fingers to do powers |
| 22:34.34 | Shirik | 2^8, 2^10, 2^20 |
| 22:34.40 | JoshBorke | i can't do 2^20 |
| 22:34.46 | JoshBorke | lua> math.pow(2, 20) |
| 22:34.46 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 1048576, |
| 22:34.47 | Shirik | 2^20 = 1MB |
| 22:35.07 | JoshBorke | i can do 14 in my head |
| 22:35.15 | JoshBorke | lua> math.pow(2, 14) |
| 22:35.15 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 16384, |
| 22:35.18 | JoshBorke | lua> math.pow(2, 15) |
| 22:35.18 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 32768, |
| 22:35.24 | JoshBorke | sorry, 16 |
| 22:35.35 | Drea | so i can't tell if the note is getting inputed. |
| 22:35.36 | JoshBorke | and then i have to concentrate on the last 3 numbers- |
| 22:36.03 | JoshBorke | lua> math.pow(2, 128) |
| 22:36.03 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 3.4028236692094e+38, |
| 22:36.14 | JoshBorke | damn, taht's a lot, how many values is that? |
| 22:38.20 | Drea | hmm. lemme make sure i did it all right |
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| 22:45.58 | reqol | bleeter: yes, I did. under the misc section. |
| 22:46.47 | Drea | http://wowi.pastey.net/78428 |
| 22:46.51 | Drea | That all look right to ya'll ? |
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| 22:47.56 | bleeter | reqol: sweet! consider it added to my UI next time I update :D |
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| 22:53.32 | reqol | thank you for the patronage :P |
| 22:53.44 | mattswell | is there some magic thing I am missing? I have created a frame in an xml sheet which has the FriendsFrame defined as its parent. However I cannot access this frame from my lua script, nothing in the xml happens to be a global (?) |
| 22:54.17 | Drea | got a pastey matt? |
| 22:55.00 | mattswell | yeah, give me a few minutes |
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| 22:56.29 | mattswell | thanks |
| 22:56.34 | mattswell | was looking for a place for help |
| 22:56.49 | mattswell | hmm |
| 22:58.51 | Drea | well if we can see what u have got there, maybe we can help |
| 22:59.26 | JoshBorke | mattswell: did you check FrameXML.log? |
| 22:59.35 | mattswell | I think I'll come back later once i work on this more, I actually have to run |
| 22:59.42 | mattswell | JoshBorke: i'll do that, didn't know it existed |
| 23:00.03 | mattswell | thanks anyway, bbl |
| 23:00.10 | JoshBorke | bb |
| 23:03.06 | Drea | hmm |
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| 23:14.06 | Pandya | hrrm |
| 23:14.15 | Pandya | any simple way to route a sound input to an output on windows? |
| 23:14.54 | Drea | grr. |
| 23:15.41 | art3mis | http://www.cybercoders.com/developer/profile/jobDetails.aspx?ad=jobAlert&posId=VB-SrPrjctMgr-NY&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 |
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| 23:18.09 | Drea | well it seems to work, but god only knows if it's true cause i can't change maps to check |
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| 23:39.06 | Drea | so for the moment, i said screw it. and made metamap a dependency, and did the metamap input note creation without the other ideas |
| 23:47.17 | Drea | now to make the checkbox work. :D |
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| 23:50.03 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1 and Antiarc: dolby-wowi and I wanted to thank you guys again for all the help you provided with the whole trojan issue - and we wanted to make our thanks a little more tangible - you both now have "Premium Member" status on the site |
| 23:50.10 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 23:50.13 | Antiarc | Whoa. Thanks. |
| 23:50.46 | Cairenn|afk | doesn't mean a whole lot I know, but wanted to do something to show our appreciation |
| 23:50.49 | Drea | wow, right on |
| 23:50.52 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 23:56.42 | Rayne | Why does chapstick feel so good on your lips? |
| 23:57.33 | Drea | hmm. good question |
| 23:57.53 | Drea | it's slick, and waxy? |
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| 23:58.55 | Drea | sup jelly |
