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| 00:11.13 | reqol | does scite support code folding? |
| 00:11.19 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:11.54 | reqol | hmm, thinking of switching from notepad++. I like it and all, but it's simplicity is not just it's strength, it's also it's weakness |
| 00:12.05 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MYPvQysqaQ |
| 00:12.07 | Wobin | win |
| 00:12.12 | reqol | it doesn't recognize my functions and the cold folding is difficult to manage |
| 00:14.33 | Industrial | 'recognize' ? |
| 00:15.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like crimson editor personally |
| 00:15.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not a coder normally but when i mess with stuff it's nice for that |
| 00:15.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if it has a wow lua plugin or anything, though |
| 00:17.38 | reqol | Industrial: it has a function overview plugin that doesn't recognize lua functions, which is aggravating because that's the entire reason I installed it |
| 00:18.54 | reqol | my only real concern with scite is that it hasn't been updated in quite some time, barring that it looks excellent |
| 00:19.31 | Industrial | I use vim |
| 00:21.26 | Shirik | OMG |
| 00:21.30 | Shirik | EVIL, PAIN, DESTRUCTION |
| 00:21.34 | reqol | ? |
| 00:21.41 | Shirik | damn, Vista gets pissed when you try to install an unsigned drive |
| 00:21.45 | reqol | lol |
| 00:21.53 | reqol | I still dual boot xp and ubuntu |
| 00:21.54 | Shirik | tell me this message box doesn't just look evil |
| 00:22.40 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b73237542568da4feed59bd840325b76.jpg |
| 00:22.49 | Shirik | When it first popped up I thought it was a virus notice or something |
| 00:23.30 | reqol | it looks pissed |
| 00:23.39 | Shirik | doesn't it? |
| 00:23.47 | reqol | heh |
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| 00:25.19 | Tem | Shirik, it looks like a scare the noobs dialog to me |
| 00:25.31 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:25.41 | Shirik | but liek, that color |
| 00:25.43 | Shirik | it's like, blood red |
| 00:26.11 | Shirik | and the words that appear in the middle of your screen are "harm your computer" so that's what you read first |
| 00:26.14 | Tem | meh, I'm currently wearing a bunch of pale makeup and blood |
| 00:26.24 | Shirik | ?? |
| 00:26.25 | Tem | so that blood color has no effect |
| 00:26.39 | Tem | we dressed up as zombies to present our zombie game |
| 00:32.07 | reqol | what's a hook? |
| 00:32.38 | art3mis | you made a zombie game? |
| 00:32.44 | art3mis | and i wasnt cunsulted? |
| 00:32.47 | art3mis | cosulted |
| 00:32.53 | art3mis | consulted |
| 00:33.05 | art3mis | typign with a smoke in yer hand is ahrder than one would think |
| 00:35.42 | Shirik | I have a good solution |
| 00:35.44 | Shirik | don't smoke |
| 00:36.44 | Tem | art3mis, CSC 4700. Video Game Design |
| 00:37.11 | Shirik | CSC? |
| 00:39.17 | art3mis | oh |
| 00:39.23 | art3mis | gimme zombie game! |
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| 00:39.34 | art3mis | compsci |
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| 00:39.46 | Shirik | we call it CS :/ |
| 00:39.55 | Shirik | or SE, depending |
| 00:40.05 | art3mis | how many of you in here are ieee mamabers btw? |
| 00:40.09 | Shirik | I am |
| 00:40.10 | art3mis | members |
| 00:40.53 | Shirik | I'm the only one? =( |
| 00:41.38 | reqol | ? |
| 00:41.40 | reqol | only hwat? |
| 00:41.44 | Shirik | IEEE member |
| 00:41.54 | Shirik | or mamaber as art3mis calls it |
| 00:41.58 | reqol | apparently so |
| 00:47.23 | art3mis | i am too ;) |
| 00:48.28 | Shirik | yey |
| 00:48.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | our 2nd in command in my guild goes by mamabear |
| 00:48.51 | Shirik | so, art3mis, ever worked with QNX? |
| 00:49.31 | Tem | art3mis, you don't want our game |
| 00:49.34 | Tem | it kinda sucks |
| 00:49.51 | art3mis | Geubuntu is an Ubuntu-based desktop distribution that combines the power of GNOME and the beauty of Enlightenment into an eye-catching and efficient desktop. |
| 00:49.57 | art3mis | shirik: about 9 years ago |
| 00:50.15 | art3mis | tem: its about zombies... must have! |
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| 00:51.17 | Shirik | art3mis: Is it any good? |
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| 00:54.44 | art3mis | no wait i havent |
| 00:55.03 | art3mis | had it confused with an SL1 clone on datapac |
| 00:55.20 | Shirik | art3mis: also, http://ewh.ieee.org/reg/3/secon/08/ ftw |
| 00:55.25 | Shirik | going to be fun |
| 00:55.52 | Shirik | http://ewh.ieee.org/reg/3/secon/08/comp_faqs.html <-- Better link |
| 00:56.06 | art3mis | those were always fun |
| 00:56.11 | Shirik | wait no |
| 00:56.14 | art3mis | we had mini meets when i was at SAIT |
| 00:56.26 | Shirik | http://ewh.ieee.org/reg/3/secon/08/competition.html <-- better better link ha |
| 00:56.36 | Shirik | Yeah this'll be my first competition :/ |
| 00:56.46 | Shirik | I'll be ok if we just get to the playoffs |
| 00:56.57 | art3mis | it's pretty fun to watch |
| 00:57.12 | Shirik | why, watch us all fail? |
| 00:57.22 | Shirik | those rocks are a real pita! |
| 00:57.31 | art3mis | in scanning it lokos kind of silly and boring(the soccer games) but when you consider thats it's all "ai", it's rpetty rad |
| 00:57.45 | art3mis | went to the robotics thing in new york last year |
| 00:57.45 | Shirik | I spent all last week trying to code a self-correction algorithm |
| 00:57.56 | art3mis | that was amazingly creepy |
| 00:57.57 | Shirik | because the rocks will naturally cause it to go off-course |
| 00:58.02 | Shirik | and it has to correct its path |
| 00:58.03 | art3mis | specially the light based robotic hands |
| 01:03.23 | art3mis | RCMP Staff Sgt. Noel St-Hilaire explained: “Unfortunately at the time there was no legislation that forbid anyone from filming in a cinema. There’s not much we could do then other than issue a warning.” |
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| 01:04.31 | malreth | use it to buy more guns |
| 01:04.40 | art3mis | “If the police would find anything wrong - shouldn’t they first contact us, then bring us in for questioning regarding the content, ask for our help or bring us to court for our wrongdoings? By not acting this way it’s very clear what this is all about. It’s all about quieting a voice that is really uncomfortable for them since they don’t have any legal standpoint in doing it. It’s sabotage, it’s abuse of power given to them.” |
| 01:04.52 | art3mis | hehe a quote from piratebay owner brokep |
| 01:05.03 | art3mis | i love the piratebay and thier isp |
| 01:05.07 | art3mis | wait a sec |
| 01:05.11 | art3mis | alestane is a girl? |
| 01:05.22 | alestane | Depends what you mean. |
| 01:05.31 | malreth | someone at the MPAA is going to just put a hit out for brokep |
| 01:05.39 | alestane | The persona of alestane is definitely a girl. |
| 01:05.48 | alestane | The person typing into the keyboard is not. |
| 01:05.52 | art3mis | okay thats what i thought |
| 01:06.02 | malreth | the person at the keyboard is actually a walrus |
| 01:06.02 | art3mis | carry on |
| 01:06.19 | dylanm | rawr eat penguins |
| 01:06.25 | art3mis | malreth: heh i wouldnt doubt it if they've actually cosidered hiring someone to just kill him |
| 01:06.35 | malreth | goo goo g'joob |
| 01:06.47 | alestane | I have never claimed to be an "actual" female...but given my avatar I always feel funny using guy terms together with her name...so you get emotes etc. in female perspective. |
| 01:06.56 | art3mis | gotcha |
| 01:07.24 | malreth | for my mage, i just rp her like a spazzed tomboy |
| 01:07.56 | art3mis | hey ale |
| 01:08.05 | alestane | Ahem..."Ales". |
| 01:08.09 | alestane | Yes? |
| 01:08.12 | art3mis | i need an xnas themed HK cycircled set of graphis |
| 01:08.15 | art3mis | graphic |
| 01:08.19 | art3mis | and xmas |
| 01:08.26 | art3mis | can ya whip one up for me? |
| 01:08.42 | alestane | So like, Hello kitty with a santa hat or something? |
| 01:08.46 | art3mis | yeah |
| 01:08.50 | malreth | WAI!!! |
| 01:08.56 | alestane | I'll see. |
| 01:09.06 | art3mis | since yer much better at that art thing than i am ;P |
| 01:09.11 | alestane | Probably not tonight, but it's the weekend now. |
| 01:09.17 | art3mis | whenever |
| 01:09.24 | art3mis | im looking at sunday or monday release |
| 01:09.39 | art3mis | for the HKUI Xmas Edition |
| 01:09.42 | Cide | good god |
| 01:10.07 | art3mis | god has nothing to do with it cide ;) |
| 01:10.11 | malreth | what's the news, cide? |
| 01:10.22 | Cide | I just want to code a couple of mod ideas |
| 01:10.33 | Cide | but I'm not masochistic enough to do it with the current combat log |
| 01:11.29 | malreth | mmm... easy 2g |
| 01:13.07 | alestane | Before I go looking myself, anyone know if there's a python module for Xcode? |
| 01:13.26 | Cide | Xcode? |
| 01:13.33 | alestane | The OSX IDE. |
| 01:13.42 | Cide | ah, no idea, sorry |
| 01:14.03 | alestane | I know I can get Python for Mac OS in general, just want to know if there's a version integrated with the suite. |
| 01:16.35 | art3mis | are you going to attempt to fly ales? |
| 01:18.09 | alestane | Fly? |
| 01:18.53 | malreth | http://xkcd.com/353/ |
| 01:18.54 | alestane | Here we go: http://pyobjc.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:19.01 | alestane | Oh, yes, I saw that. |
| 01:19.38 | alestane | I'm thinking about trying to prototype a CarWars-style strategy action game. |
| 01:20.15 | alestane | fast-paced tactics. |
| 01:20.30 | art3mis | friend of mine was working on that about 5 years ago |
| 01:20.34 | art3mis | had the absis for it |
| 01:20.36 | art3mis | basis |
| 01:20.42 | art3mis | MUD style |
| 01:21.50 | alestane | I'm thinking of something with just a touch of FFXII mixed in, where you give your units a battle plan before hand, and then give them new instructions as the battle evolves. |
| 01:22.02 | Thunder_Child | for yoy peggle lovers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blwEBkEm5tg |
| 01:22.25 | alestane | Sort of like Starcraft or something, but with twice the pace, half the units and very little resource management. |
| 01:22.36 | Thunder_Child | s/yoy/you/ |
| 01:22.39 | alestane | Python is supposed to be a good language for protoyping. |
| 01:22.41 | malreth | really... |
| 01:23.01 | malreth | i was thinking about making a MUD style game with no point or reason |
| 01:23.09 | malreth | no rules, either really |
| 01:23.15 | malreth | you just hit people and get points for it |
| 01:23.33 | malreth | maybe now and then the game kills you |
| 01:24.31 | alestane | I'm figuring if the game becomes developed there will need to be online play, but first I need to try and develop a core. |
| 01:25.44 | art3mis | thudner: thats pretty rad |
| 01:25.47 | art3mis | thunde |
| 01:25.49 | art3mis | r |
| 01:26.28 | art3mis | i think i need to get a monkey to type for me |
| 01:27.47 | Thunder_Child | you seem to be picking up my bad habits art3mis |
| 01:27.56 | art3mis | had them long before |
| 01:28.02 | art3mis | it's just more obvious now heh |
| 01:28.13 | art3mis | for the longest time i couldnt spell nice |
| 01:28.19 | art3mis | er "nice" |
| 01:28.29 | art3mis | it always came out ncie even if i attempted to slowly correct it |
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| 01:45.12 | Tuller | muffins! |
| 01:45.29 | Thunder_Child | ~art3mis |
| 01:45.29 | purl | Art3mis is a ncie guy. |
| 01:45.50 | Tuller | ~muffins |
| 01:45.56 | Tuller | aww |
| 01:48.36 | Duman | heh |
| 01:48.37 | malreth | ~muffins |
| 01:48.38 | purl | Absolutely muffin! |
| 01:48.42 | malreth | yay! |
| 01:49.42 | Duman | tuller - any recent updates to combuctor? :) |
| 01:49.51 | Tuller | been working :P |
| 01:50.03 | Tuller | everytime i take a look at it, I forget what I wanna do :) |
| 01:50.40 | Duman | haha |
| 01:50.42 | Duman | I know how that goes |
| 01:51.14 | Tuller | I actually have it open right now :) |
| 01:51.22 | Kaso | holy crap; http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2706400 That is not a sensible religon. |
| 01:52.48 | Duman | wow |
| 01:54.07 | Neebler | people are idiots |
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| 02:02.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | my uncle almost died from a staph infection due to their medical-related beliefs :/ |
| 02:03.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least i think that's why |
| 02:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | while i'm not one to question peoples' beliefs, i personally believe those that follow that particular guideline need to reread why some people choose to follow it and decide for themselves if that interpretation is what they think it is |
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| 02:23.11 | bleeter | `seen norgs |
| 02:23.15 | bleeter | bah |
| 02:23.18 | bleeter | ~seen norgs |
| 02:23.20 | purl | norgs is currently on #wowi-lounge (4d 19h 25m 26s) #norganna (4d 19h 25m 26s) #wowace (4d 19h 25m 26s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 1d 23h 12m 5s, last said: 'I see'. |
| 02:28.38 | Shirik | ~seen |Jelly|'s sanity |
| 02:28.40 | purl | Shirik: i haven't seen '|jelly|'s sanity' |
| 02:28.48 | bleeter | lolollol 'selling holiday stuff that needs sow balls' |
| 02:28.50 | |Jelly| | ...there's a reason |
| 02:28.55 | Shirik | =) |
| 02:29.01 | Shirik | <3 |
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| 02:37.31 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:37.47 | Shirik | --[[=============================================================== |
| 02:37.50 | Shirik | --|| Karazhan.lua |
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| 02:38.35 | Shirik | um |
| 02:38.37 | Shirik | meant to link this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3268470679&sid=1 |
| 02:38.39 | Shirik | >< |
| 02:40.18 | cogwheel | lern2clipboard |
| 02:40.29 | cogwheel | imo |
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| 02:42.50 | Thunder_Child | more like L2Computer |
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| 02:48.03 | |Jelly| | They took my shackle away...to give it to a spriest. |
| 02:48.05 | |Jelly| | rofl |
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| 03:02.46 | Rayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.02 | |Jelly| | he asked me for some jackass stuff like that too |
| 03:03.06 | |Jelly| | I think he was asking about grid... |
| 03:03.09 | |Jelly| | ...which I don't use. |
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| 03:07.47 | cogwheel | shrig makse me qq |
| 03:07.55 | cogwheel | and misspell |
| 03:12.08 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: I suggest murder of sorts (re: shrig) |
| 03:12.16 | Duman | haha |
| 03:12.20 | ScytheBlade1 | wait |
| 03:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 03:12.22 | ScytheBlade1 | WTF |
| 03:12.23 | cogwheel | agreed |
| 03:12.24 | ScytheBlade1 | "/getmobsinzoneX" |
| 03:12.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ?! |
| 03:12.36 | cogwheel | hmm? |
| 03:12.42 | ScytheBlade1 | He's retarded.. |
| 03:12.43 | Duman | que? |
| 03:12.47 | cogwheel | don't tell me he asked for that... |
| 03:12.49 | cogwheel | holy |
| 03:12.52 | Duman | bwahahah |
| 03:12.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523&sid=1&pageNo=21#416 |
| 03:13.06 | cogwheel | yeaodau |
| 03:13.12 | cogwheel | s/odau/h/ |
| 03:13.24 | cogwheel | ^ evidence of the effect that had on me |
| 03:13.25 | Duman | interesting typo there :-P |
| 03:13.27 | Duman | hahah |
| 03:13.32 | Duman | so much anger! |
| 03:14.06 | cogwheel | mind boggleingness (or something to that effect) |
| 03:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 03:14.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Three replies in about a minute |
| 03:14.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Less |
| 03:15.03 | ScytheBlade1 | 15 seconds |
| 03:15.15 | cogwheel | Ha! |
| 03:17.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I may be biased |
| 03:17.17 | ScytheBlade1 | But I like my reply |
| 03:17.59 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 03:19.04 | cogwheel | I bet if this were a question on the ptr forum Hortus would join in the ...s |
| 03:19.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I bet he would too |
| 03:20.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Man, trolling is addictive |
| 03:20.03 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271071031&postId=32361904619&sid=1 |
| 03:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Sooner or later I'm going to get banned, I can feel it |
| 03:20.40 | ScytheBlade1 | .... @ his reply |
| 03:20.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Like |
| 03:20.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 03:20.42 | Thunder_Child | ~ban ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:20.49 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 03:21.00 | Thunder_Child | purl fails |
| 03:21.01 | purl | I fail? I FAIL? NO, YOU FAIL!!! |
| 03:21.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone just got owned |
| 03:21.21 | Thunder_Child | yup, purl |
| 03:21.43 | Tuller | someone give me a blizzard frame that looks like it should be both a window, but not an options menu, and is easily resizable :) |
| 03:22.25 | cogwheel | umm... the battleground score window? |
| 03:22.38 | cogwheel | (that the kind of thing you're looking for?) |
| 03:22.46 | cogwheel | s/thing/answer/ |
| 03:22.48 | Tuller | that kind of style, yes |
| 03:22.58 | Tuller | i'm thinking maybe just the standard bag frame |
| 03:23.09 | cogwheel | character pane maybe... |
| 03:25.16 | Tuller | I'm just really trying to avoid making combuctor a tooltip type window :P |
| 03:25.23 | Tuller | but I want resizing :) |
| 03:25.24 | cogwheel | oh heh |
| 03:25.48 | cogwheel | umm... there's one i like |
| 03:26.00 | cogwheel | sec... |
| 03:26.54 | dylanm | Tuller: Oh what's wrong with the way it looks now? Are the art files being prohibitive? |
| 03:27.14 | Tuller | the specific one combuctor is using is a little nasty to resize, I think |
| 03:27.31 | Tuller | but I could be completely wrong :) |
| 03:27.36 | cogwheel | Tuller: how about something like this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full6443.jpg |
| 03:28.08 | Tuller | the picky part of me says, "that's only for options menus" :) |
| 03:28.37 | cogwheel | static popup dialogs use it too :P |
| 03:28.58 | cogwheel | You can hack up the textures from craft, quest, social, etc. pretty easily |
| 03:30.03 | Tuller | its probably one of those "i suck at math" things :) |
| 03:32.42 | Tem | Tuller, spend a day doing it with SetTexCoords |
| 03:32.45 | Tem | tooltip windows suck |
| 03:32.52 | Tuller | I know :P |
| 03:33.16 | Tuller | I did the set tex coords thing for the bank window, but its still ugly |
| 03:33.42 | dylanm | It doesn't _look_ ugly, Tuller :) |
| 03:33.58 | Tuller | if I told you where to look, you'd think it was :) |
| 03:34.46 | dylanm | Lock those secrets in a chest at the bottom of the ocean |
| 03:34.54 | cogwheel | Tuller: I did the exact opposite with one of my addons... i actually improved upon one of blizzard's frames with their own textures :P |
| 03:35.00 | dylanm | And we'll continue to be happy Combuctor users |
| 03:36.14 | Tem | Tuller, try the HelpFrame's texture |
| 03:36.19 | Tem | it's pretty easy to hack |
| 03:40.02 | Tuller | hrm...to get rid of the character portrait thing or not :P |
| 03:41.38 | art3mis | http://www.infoworld.com/archives/emailPrint.jsp?R=printThis&A=/article/07/12/06/IBM-researchers-build-supercomputer-on-a-chip_1.html |
| 03:41.49 | art3mis | woo nanocomputing! |
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| 03:45.07 | Tuller | nanocomputing requires at least a date |
| 03:45.19 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: well, at least for a moron, he obeys well |
| 03:46.13 | cogwheel | You know, as much as i think he's a tard, he really does seem like he genuinely tries |
| 03:46.30 | cogwheel | He kind of reminds me of me when i was 12 |
| 03:46.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate those kind of people |
| 03:46.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, no offense |
| 03:46.45 | cogwheel | XD |
| 03:46.47 | ScytheBlade1 | But mostly because they're next to impossible to /gkick |
| 03:46.53 | cogwheel | emphasis on "kind of" |
| 03:46.57 | ScytheBlade1 | You know what I mean |
| 03:47.02 | cogwheel | yep |
| 03:47.29 | cogwheel | his sig says "Since "93" ... |
| 03:47.38 | cogwheel | he's 14 then? |
| 03:47.55 | cogwheel | holy crap i can't believe '93 was 14 years ago :( |
| 03:48.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Join the club |
| 03:48.50 | cogwheel | I'm already a card-carrying member of the "I remember when..." club |
| 03:49.26 | cogwheel | but that's not quite the same as "back in my day" |
| 03:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I would say that I am too, but then you'd ask my age, laugh, and then prove to me how you actually are |
| 03:50.05 | cogwheel | nah... i don't consider myself old by any stretch... I just notice things like this XD |
| 03:50.59 | ScytheBlade1 | At least I didn't have to tell you that I'm 19, and then watch you laugh |
| 03:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ;D |
| 03:51.22 | cogwheel | now see, I started noticing things like this every now and then when I was 19 so i hear ya |
| 03:51.27 | Thunder_Child | you cant compaire what used to be "back in the day" to now, things move so much faster |
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| 03:51.33 | Thunder_Child | esp tech |
| 03:51.43 | cogwheel | isn't it wonderful? |
| 03:51.45 | cogwheel | :) |
| 03:51.49 | Thunder_Child | kinda |
| 03:52.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Except for the part where I feel old, because I'm having trouble keeping up with technology. >< |
| 03:52.31 | cogwheel | It's funny to watch movies like back to the future ... as off-base as they are in some aspects, it's almost scary how accurate they are in others |
| 03:52.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I figure that as long as you can name the generations of xboxes, you're not quite old |
| 03:52.44 | ScytheBlade1 | (ie, "Xbox" or "Xbox 360") |
| 03:52.49 | ScytheBlade1 | (I know some people who can't) |
| 03:53.08 | Thunder_Child | i cant |
| 03:53.14 | Thunder_Child | but then i dont do consoles |
| 03:53.55 | Thunder_Child | although i did start with the atari |
| 03:54.24 | ScytheBlade1 | See, I don't have anything nearly that prestigious |
| 03:54.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I started with MSDOS 4.0 |
| 03:54.43 | cogwheel | same |
| 03:56.14 | cogwheel | my first was an xt clone with a yellow monochrome monitor, a 384k RAM expansion card and a hard drive card |
| 03:56.17 | Rayne | ok |
| 03:56.26 | Rayne | nm |
| 03:56.33 | cogwheel | k |
| 03:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | The first PC I utterly destroyed was a 486SX |
| 03:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | The first PC I physically destroyed was some 900MHz AMD |
| 03:57.58 | ScytheBlade1 | (That 900MHz CPU can no longer do basic math correctly) |
| 03:58.00 | MentalPower | cogwheel: mine was a green monochome monitor, with the same ammount of ram, two 2.25" floppies (the ones that actually flex), no HD no expansion |
| 03:58.20 | cogwheel | 5.25" ;) |
| 03:58.25 | MentalPower | err... right |
| 03:58.34 | MentalPower | drunken fingers |
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| 04:00.19 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271121661&sid=1 <-- I love the threads that try to get all buddy-buddy with Hortus |
| 04:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | They all invariably involve premades |
| 04:04.27 | cogwheel | oh i'm also slightly intoxicated on sleep hormones... only got ~3 hrs last night ;) |
| 04:04.35 | |Jelly| | me too. lol |
| 04:04.58 | Kalroth | sleep is for the weak |
| 04:05.12 | cogwheel | spent hours fighting with state headers for one of the book's example addons |
| 04:05.31 | cogwheel | found no less than 3 bugs/problems >< |
| 04:05.48 | cogwheel | s/></XD/ |
| 04:05.55 | cogwheel | ^ for Cairenn|afk |
| 04:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | So, to bring up a topic that just came to mind for no apparent reason |
| 04:07.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Whatever happened to that "what tutorials/documentation on writing addons would YOU like to see" thread? |
| 04:11.06 | cogwheel | it's long since moot at this poitn :P |
| 04:11.12 | cogwheel | (correctly spelled) |
| 04:11.22 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I was afraid of |
| 04:11.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I got all hopeful there for a few days |
| 04:11.50 | cogwheel | it was research for the book that's due on monday XD |
| 04:12.01 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:12.43 | cogwheel | did you have anything in mind to ask for? i could tell you if we cover it... |
| 04:13.20 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: did the thread from yesterday (the day before?) die? |
| 04:13.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Call me "outdated" but I still want some coherent documentation on FrameXML. |
| 04:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: which thread? OH |
| 04:13.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Sadly yes |
| 04:13.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It was deleted a few hours ago actually |
| 04:13.43 | MentalPower | go nuked? |
| 04:13.46 | MentalPower | bah |
| 04:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | So it stayed up much longer than I expected |
| 04:13.54 | MentalPower | did the OP ever reply again? |
| 04:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 04:14.07 | MentalPower | k, didn't miss much then |
| 04:14.35 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: you mean detailing all of the various frames and how they operate and such? That could be a book in its own right... |
| 04:14.53 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 04:15.12 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: and how to write them in the XML. I can copy, paste, modifiy, and learn slowly... but that doesn't mean I've really learned much at all |
| 04:15.29 | cogwheel | oh. well then the book's exactly what you want :) |
| 04:15.54 | cogwheel | We introduce XML from the ground up, even before discussing API functions |
| 04:16.14 | cogwheel | the nature of it makes it ideal for teaching how UI elements fit together |
| 04:16.41 | ScytheBlade1 | The API I've know to know, namely how to use it and what to expect |
| 04:16.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But the extent of my mods really consists of GUIless data mods |
| 04:18.06 | cogwheel | clad would be able to give you more detailed info since he wrote the first 13-ish chapters... my first one starts in with the API |
| 04:19.06 | ScytheBlade1 | It's no rush |
| 04:19.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It's kinda nice being a nameless author of addons that don't really do anything |
| 04:19.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It means I have no dependant users ;) |
| 04:19.55 | cogwheel | heh |
| 04:20.08 | MentalPower | users... now thats a topic |
| 04:20.10 | cogwheel | (took me 3 tries to get "heh" right... ded... tet... /sigh) |
| 04:20.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Go sleep |
| 04:20.28 | MentalPower | cogwheel: take a nap, looks like you need it |
| 04:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam, problem solved |
| 04:20.52 | cogwheel | nah... just typing too fast, and doing too many things at once ;) |
| 04:21.31 | MentalPower | Ok, here's a question for the otherwise dead channel: Is is ever ethical to torrent a game? |
| 04:22.08 | cogwheel | s/is/it/ |
| 04:22.11 | cogwheel | :P |
| 04:22.40 | MentalPower | ... |
| 04:22.44 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:22.48 | Shirik | my entire party just rolled a 34 |
| 04:22.56 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 04:23.07 | NightHawkTheSane | all 5 of you? |
| 04:23.10 | Shirik | yes |
| 04:23.15 | NightHawkTheSane | screenshot, dude |
| 04:23.50 | cogwheel | MentalPower: Only if you can't get it legally imo (like when it's not released in other countries, the company no longer exists, etc.) |
| 04:24.08 | Shirik | will upload as soon as I stop healing :P |
| 04:24.12 | cogwheel | emphasis on the o in imo |
| 04:24.35 | Thunder_Child | 1:10000000000 (do i have my math correct?) |
| 04:24.47 | Shirik | 100^5 |
| 04:24.51 | Shirik | er |
| 04:24.51 | Thunder_Child | then ya |
| 04:24.52 | Shirik | 100^4 |
| 04:24.57 | MentalPower | cogwheel: what if the only way to get the game is via expensive eBay auctions? |
| 04:25.01 | Thunder_Child | why 4? |
| 04:25.06 | Shirik | because there are 100 ways to match |
| 04:25.08 | Shirik | one for each number |
| 04:25.33 | Thunder_Child | primary + matchers |
| 04:25.35 | Thunder_Child | got it |
| 04:25.46 | cogwheel | i think that counts with the "company no longer exists" bit... s/get it legally/get a new copy legally/ ;) |
| 04:25.56 | Thunder_Child | then 1:100000000 |
| 04:26.10 | Thunder_Child | still, high odds |
| 04:26.20 | MentalPower | cogwheel: fair nuf |
| 04:26.36 | MentalPower | that my PoV too, just wanted a fact-check |
| 04:27.43 | Thunder_Child | yes, some games are released on torrents |
| 04:27.58 | Thunder_Child | the most popular based on planescape torment |
| 04:28.14 | Thunder_Child | cant remeber the name offhand |
| 04:28.19 | Thunder_Child | remember* |
| 04:33.48 | MentalPower | thats not the kind i"m talking about |
| 04:34.24 | MentalPower | I'm talking about the games that were once released physically |
| 04:34.36 | MentalPower | but are no longer available in stores |
| 04:34.48 | MentalPower | ie, old Win95/Win98 games |
| 04:38.40 | cogwheel | e.g. Warcraft 2 :'( WTB |
| 04:38.58 | MentalPower | or War1 |
| 04:39.10 | cogwheel | good luck finding a comp that'll run it though ;) |
| 04:39.25 | MentalPower | anyways, im my case its The Jouneyman Project |
| 04:39.33 | MentalPower | thats what VMs are for :) |
| 04:39.39 | cogwheel | true |
| 04:40.18 | MentalPower | I sometimes get bored and hook them up to the net |
| 04:40.24 | cogwheel | heh |
| 04:40.28 | MentalPower | always fun watching them go poof within a few mins |
| 04:41.18 | MentalPower | Win3.1 can't do jack online, I'm unsure if it even has the proper network foo |
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| 04:42.41 | malreth | woo... awesome dinner made |
| 04:43.05 | malreth | seared steak with roasted zucchini and asparagus with a butter pan sauce |
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| 04:50.28 | kergoth | Any ideas on how to improve/rework the layout of the ui at http://picasaweb.google.com/kergoth/WorldOfWarcraft/photo#5141459642909169298 ? don't like it as is |
| 04:54.00 | Thunder_Child | (in regards to spirit of redemption) "Improved Death is dumb, I would rather be able to live thank you, although I love the talent, but it speaks for itself. " |
| 04:55.33 | Thunder_Child | "Full-time raider with occasional arena for a few pieces here and there. If it weren't for raids, I would not be playing this class. I'm completely addicted to healing little boxes on my UI." |
| 04:55.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just wish they were considered dead so i could cast rebirth on spirits of redemption |
| 04:56.00 | Thunder_Child | i love the last sentence |
| 05:00.27 | Thunder_Child | ok, after the first page of bitc....constructive criticism it all seems to be the same |
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| 05:02.49 | Thunder_Child | i havent been playing much, nor reading the forusm, whats "pushback" slang for? |
| 05:02.58 | Thunder_Child | forums* |
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| 05:03.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Cast a 3s spell --> get hit before it completes --> spell takes more than 3s to cast |
| 05:03.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's spell pushback in a literal sense |
| 05:03.32 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok, thanks |
| 05:04.01 | Kaso | they used to use the word "casting interuption" but thats confusable with Earthshock/kick/counterspell type effects |
| 05:05.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually as far as i know pushback has been edited out of the only thing it was in, the druid talent |
| 05:05.21 | Kaso | oh really? i havent been paying much attention |
| 05:05.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0 |
| 05:05.25 | Kaso | shame it made more sense |
| 05:05.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | celestial focus under balance |
| 05:05.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | 4th tier |
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| 05:13.55 | Thunder_Child | hell even a simple range indicator for cone of could would be really helpfull |
| 05:14.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i say give it a .5 sec cast time and make it a pbae |
| 05:15.05 | Thunder_Child | pbae? |
| 05:15.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | all that get hit can have a cyclone-type visual effect |
| 05:15.20 | malreth | point blank area effect |
| 05:15.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | like hellfire |
| 05:15.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | only not channeled |
| 05:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | just a quick BAM |
| 05:16.09 | cogwheel | anyone have a hunter or warlock on the PTR that could help me test an addon? |
| 05:16.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I can make a hunter or warlock! |
| 05:16.37 | cogwheel | when do you get an imp? |
| 05:16.41 | cogwheel | 2? |
| 05:17.13 | Thunder_Child | 1 |
| 05:17.15 | dylanm | You could get it at 1 |
| 05:17.22 | cogwheel | that works then :) |
| 05:17.24 | dylanm | If you just did the quest |
| 05:17.35 | Corrodias | errrr sorry |
| 05:17.36 | cogwheel | would you mind? |
| 05:17.42 | cogwheel | alliance plx |
| 05:18.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 05:18.18 | Corrodias | cats appear to enjoy my keyboard these days |
| 05:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't think that would work |
| 05:18.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to patch it up on linux to do that |
| 05:18.34 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, i dunno, geting rid of more of our instant casts may not be the best idea |
| 05:18.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, it's .5 and everyone in the area |
| 05:19.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | within say 5 yards or so? |
| 05:19.07 | cogwheel | i'll ask in trade chat... gotta be someone bored around here |
| 05:19.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd prefer that |
| 05:19.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | just stop for a half second and slap it |
| 05:19.14 | Thunder_Child | whats the range of the cone as it stands? |
| 05:19.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and keep moving |
| 05:19.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, it's so wonky, Thunder_Child |
| 05:19.32 | Corrodias | shadow priests need resistance to pushback on Mind Flay |
| 05:19.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'd be much easier to predict if it was just a circle around you |
| 05:19.44 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271181601&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 <-- that's actually a pretty good signature |
| 05:19.50 | Thunder_Child | hell, even wowhead shows the range as 0 |
| 05:19.56 | Corrodias | or... pushfoward... |
| 05:21.04 | Thunder_Child | i think cone of cold would be fine if there was some kind of visual range/area marker |
| 05:22.51 | Corrodias | not until druids can cast it. then it'd be fine. |
| 05:23.05 | Thunder_Child | why is that? |
| 05:23.12 | Corrodias | because then i could use it. |
| 05:23.29 | Thunder_Child | but why does that matter? |
| 05:23.41 | Corrodias | me = good, everyone else = bad |
| 05:23.50 | Corrodias | it's simple geometry. |
| 05:23.51 | Thunder_Child | oh...troll....got it |
| 05:24.22 | Thunder_Child | interesting idea "Flamestrike - Should lock on its target and spread outward from the target. Talented version should give faster casting speed with critical damage bonuses. " |
| 05:24.57 | Kaso | how is that better than targetable flamestrike? |
| 05:25.49 | malreth | ~seen iriel |
| 05:25.56 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 23h 27m 35s ago, saying: 'evening.. is it friday yet?'. |
| 05:25.56 | Thunder_Child | you mean the part where you have to choose the spot then hope people are still standing in it when it finishes casting?? |
| 05:26.29 | Thunder_Child | at least you are sure to hit at least ONE target like this |
| 05:31.18 | Thunder_Child | heh " The one problem I always felt mages were behind in was there healing ability. There is none." |
| 05:31.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Pfft |
| 05:31.50 | Thunder_Child | well there is a point to it, but that part was funny |
| 05:31.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I usually get good laughs out of the resto druids when I bandage them |
| 05:32.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Especially considering how incredibly squishy I am |
| 05:32.21 | Thunder_Child | this person is pointing out other healing DPS'ers (e.g. Locks and Spriests) |
| 05:32.58 | Kaso | Thunder_Child, give mages the ability to self-sheep, they can heal, if they're willing to take themselves out of the battle (breaks other casted sheep) |
| 05:33.25 | Thunder_Child | only if it comes with mana regen |
| 05:33.31 | Thunder_Child | hmm.... |
| 05:33.37 | Thunder_Child | might actually work |
| 05:33.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be abusable |
| 05:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Have to work special diminishing returns on to the spell |
| 05:34.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Mage chain sheeps self before match --> bam, immune to start |
| 05:34.35 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 05:34.43 | Rayne | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3270771448&sid=1 whos going to say fag first in the thread? |
| 05:34.44 | Thunder_Child | how, it's not a dot |
| 05:35.00 | Thunder_Child | the effect lasts only while in sheep form |
| 05:35.25 | ScytheBlade1 | If a mage could self sheep, a mage could also make himself sheep immune due to diminishing returns |
| 05:35.28 | Thunder_Child | s/dot/buff/ |
| 05:35.53 | Thunder_Child | not the sheep part, just the buff |
| 05:35.55 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd either have to work special DR mechanics on it, or make it a new spell entirely |
| 05:36.14 | cogwheel | Rayne: probably kelfarr |
| 05:36.16 | cogwheel | :P |
| 05:40.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ "As Richard Nixon is a crook, so this image is a rectangle." |
| 05:40.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, swap image and rectangle |
| 05:40.52 | ScytheBlade1 | But still |
| 05:43.27 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/out-of-business/compusa-throws-in-the-towel-sells-to-a-liquidator-331568.php |
| 05:44.13 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: did you see the comment some guy made about it yesterday? |
| 05:44.16 | cogwheel | :S |
| 05:44.56 | cogwheel | on the MacroSequence page |
| 05:45.11 | cogwheel | I kinda went off on him... don't know if he ended up deleting them... |
| 05:45.23 | |Jelly| | link imo |
| 05:45.29 | cogwheel | oh, not macrosequence.. . sec |
| 05:45.41 | cogwheel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7599-UIMacrosToC.html |
| 05:45.44 | cogwheel | start at the bottom |
| 05:48.17 | Kaso | haha what the crap |
| 05:49.41 | Shirik | lua> print "\xe2\xb8\xb3\xe2\xb8\xb40" |
| 05:49.42 | lua_bot | Shirik: xe2xb8xb3xe2xb8xb40 |
| 05:50.19 | Shirik | lua> print string.byte(0xe2)..string.byte(0xb8)..string.byte(0xb3)..string.byte(0xe2)..string.byte(0xb8)..string.byte(0xb40) |
| 05:50.19 | lua_bot | Shirik: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "print string.byte(0xe2)..string.byte(0xb8)..string.byte(0xb3)....."]:1: '=' expected near 'string' |
| 05:50.26 | Shirik | =( does Lua not support hex? |
| 05:50.40 | cogwheel | A character in a string may also be specified by its numerical value using the escape sequence \ddd, where ddd is a sequence of up to three decimal digits. (Note that if a numerical escape is to be followed by a digit, it must be expressed using exactly three digits.) Strings in Lua may contain any 8-bit value, including embedded zeros, which can be specified as '\0'. |
| 05:50.54 | cogwheel | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html |
| 05:51.00 | malreth | lua> print(0xdeadbeef) |
| 05:51.01 | lua_bot | malreth: 3735928559 |
| 05:51.15 | malreth | added in 5.1 |
| 05:51.25 | Shirik | print (string.byte(0xe2)..string.byte(0xb8)..string.byte(0xb3)..string.byte(0xe2)..string.byte(0xb8)..string.byte(0xb40)) |
| 05:51.29 | Shirik | lua> print (string.byte(0xe2)..string.byte(0xb8)..string.byte(0xb3)..string.byte(0xe2)..string.byte(0xb8)..string.byte(0xb40)) |
| 05:51.29 | lua_bot | Shirik: 504949504950 |
| 05:51.31 | cogwheel | malreth: i think he was specifically referring to character escapes |
| 05:51.33 | Shirik | stupid parentheses |
| 05:51.39 | cogwheel | or not... |
| 05:51.53 | Shirik | lua> print (string.char(0xe2)..string.char(0xb8)..string.char(0xb3)..string.char(0xe2)..string.char(0xb8)..string.char(0xb40)) |
| 05:51.54 | lua_bot | Shirik: [string "print (string.char(0xe2)..string.char(0xb8)..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (invalid value) |
| 05:51.57 | Shirik | grrr |
| 05:52.02 | Shirik | I'm trying to investigate this attack on our site |
| 05:52.04 | Shirik | anyone have any clue what this is? |
| 05:52.13 | Shirik | 72.91.113.202 - - [07/Dec/2007:21:05:47 +0000] "GET /forums/index.php?act=rssout&type=calendar&id=1 HTTP/1.1" 200 346 "-" "veoh-\xe2\xb8\xb3\xe2\xb8\xb40 service (NT 5.1; IE 6.0.2900.2180; en-US Windows)" |
| 05:52.16 | Shirik | wtf is that browser? |
| 05:53.58 | cogwheel | http://www.asciitable.com/ |
| 05:54.09 | Kaso | veoh tv Shirik |
| 05:54.15 | Shirik | wtf is that? |
| 05:54.22 | Kaso | "User-Agent: veoh-3.6.2 service (NT 5.1; IE 7.0.5730.11; en-US Windows)\r\n" |
| 05:54.26 | cogwheel | err hmm... |
| 05:54.33 | Kaso | veoh is a youtubealike website |
| 05:54.46 | Shirik | why the heck would you use that to view a site? |
| 05:54.47 | Kaso | veohtv is there browser program |
| 05:54.54 | Kaso | I've no idea |
| 05:54.58 | Shirik | fact of the matter is that he was viewing something he shouldn't have had access to |
| 05:55.33 | Kaso | but thats the right UA, other than the hex crap |
| 05:56.50 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: no, I'll go check now |
| 05:57.20 | Kaso | Shirik, you can add RSS feeds to the veoh tv client which appears to be what that GET request is looking for |
| 05:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: boo, comment is gone |
| 05:57.39 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: continue down the irc log ;) |
| 05:57.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, haha |
| 05:58.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:58.17 | ScytheBlade1 | He's overreacting |
| 05:59.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought it was fitting as WoWI requires images ;P |
| 05:59.53 | cogwheel | as has everyone else who has ever mentioned it ;) |
| 06:03.54 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 06:04.00 | Shirik | people actually use HEAD requests? |
| 06:04.06 | Shirik | All I've ever seen was POST and GET |
| 06:04.30 | ScytheBlade1 | PUT.... |
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| 06:07.01 | Kaso | shirk i assume this is still in the RSS theme then head make sense if you want to check the validity of the links the rss returns |
| 06:08.01 | Shirik | actually our RSS feed has (should have) nothing in it |
| 06:08.05 | Shirik | it's just.. there |
| 06:08.13 | Shirik | but I'll check it out |
| 06:08.16 | Shirik | but not tonight, it's too late |
| 06:09.55 | Shirik | night |
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| 06:28.33 | cogwheel | <3 |Jelly| |
| 06:29.37 | |Jelly| | :) |
| 06:29.44 | cogwheel | y u wearin dat owtfite? |
| 06:30.35 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 06:30.58 | art3mis | tell me are all men of the future such braggarts? |
| 06:31.01 | art3mis | no |
| 06:31.04 | art3mis | just me baby |
| 06:32.09 | Thunder_Child | you know, IRC is such a magnet for really weird people |
| 06:33.01 | art3mis | watching army of darkness ;) |
| 06:33.16 | Thunder_Child | i never did see evil dead 1 |
| 06:33.34 | Shirik|zZz | Thunder_Child: Just think of what we get in #conspiracy |
| 06:33.41 | art3mis | you've seemed to have missed out on lots of classic examples of our culture ;) |
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| 06:33.52 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, i have seen 2 and AoD |
| 06:34.00 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|zZz, that bad huh? |
| 06:34.00 | art3mis | oh okay |
| 06:34.16 | Shirik|zZz | it's gotten to the point where Cidan periodically says to the people that join |
| 06:34.21 | Shirik|zZz | wait let me go find my logs |
| 06:34.31 | art3mis | i read that as legs |
| 06:35.01 | Thunder_Child | was "#conspiracymod" or "#conspiracyaddon" taken already? |
| 06:35.23 | art3mis | he wouldnt get the cool people if he did that ;P |
| 06:35.25 | Thunder_Child | or #conspiracy-mod #conspiracy-addon |
| 06:35.42 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, cool doesnt seem to be the word to apply there |
| 06:38.13 | Shirik|zZz | =( I can't find it boo |
| 06:38.22 | Shirik|zZz | Thunder_Child: We have the rights to anything in the #conspiracy namespace |
| 06:38.31 | Shirik|zZz | I can take #conspiracy-mod if I wanted |
| 06:38.38 | Shirik|zZz | but I like #conspiracy better |
| 06:38.48 | Thunder_Child | i'm surprised #conspiracy wasnt taken |
| 06:39.36 | Shirik|zZz | oh it was |
| 06:39.56 | Shirik|zZz | that's why we had to fill out one of those group registration forms |
| 06:40.04 | Shirik|zZz | declare our project and that we wanted to take it over |
| 06:40.24 | Shirik|zZz | took about 3 weeks but we got it |
| 06:40.50 | Thunder_Child | you kicked other people out? that doesnt seem right |
| 06:40.56 | Shirik|zZz | nobody was in it :P |
| 06:40.59 | Shirik|zZz | it was just registered |
| 06:41.04 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 06:41.10 | Shirik|zZz | according to the stats no owner had been in it in 6 years |
| 06:41.17 | Shirik|zZz | which suprirsed me because I didn't realize freenode was up for that long |
| 06:44.06 | Shirik|zZz | oh dear god |
| 06:44.14 | Shirik|zZz | "walkin on the sun" was a hit a decade ago |
| 06:44.21 | Shirik|zZz | I feel old all of a sudden |
| 06:44.52 | Thunder_Child | your only as old as you act...which is prolly why people keep treating me as a kid |
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| 06:47.58 | Shirik|zZz | anyway realy gotta go to bed |
| 06:48.01 | Shirik|zZz | just came back to burn these CDs |
| 06:48.02 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 06:48.21 | Thunder_Child | heh, who comes back from bed to burn CD's |
| 06:48.29 | Thunder_Child | oh, thats right, a nerd |
| 06:48.31 | Shirik|zZz | I have a meeting tomorrow |
| 06:48.40 | Shirik|zZz | I need to bring these things with me |
| 06:48.53 | Thunder_Child | uh huh, and normal people do it BEFORE they go to bed |
| 06:49.02 | Shirik|zZz | and if they forget :P |
| 06:49.08 | Thunder_Child | they do it in the morning |
| 06:49.21 | Shirik|zZz | And yes, I pride myself on the fact that I am staying up until 2AM to burn differeing versions of IDEs and OSes to discs :P |
| 06:49.29 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 06:49.34 | Shirik|zZz | nerd pride! |
| 06:49.36 | Thunder_Child | didnt say it was bad |
| 06:50.37 | cogwheel | Shirik|zZz: that's creepy... I had that song stuck in my head and just saw your message :| |
| 06:51.04 | Shirik|zZz | do you have XM? |
| 06:51.32 | cogwheel | no... i was listening ot it last night and i remembered it by association ('cause i'm doing exactly the same thing right now) |
| 06:51.39 | Shirik|zZz | ah |
| 06:51.47 | Shirik|zZz | well they have been playing it lately on XM 22 :) |
| 06:51.48 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, night |
| 06:51.53 | cogwheel | (minus listening to walking on the sun) |
| 06:54.05 | cogwheel | ~whalenuke me |
| 06:54.06 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around cogwheel with his mind powers. |
| 07:04.24 | Xuerian | Dammit, Walking on the Sun is good :( |
| 07:08.25 | Thunder_Child | it is good...doesnt make me feel old though |
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| 07:12.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 07:12.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need me a coffee snob |
| 07:14.33 | art3mis | why? |
| 07:16.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | to find a nice, relatively cheap burr grinder with an even grind |
| 07:16.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | all i care about is an even grind :[ |
| 07:17.56 | art3mis | oh |
| 07:19.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm looking at this |
| 07:19.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000O3JT46 |
| 07:19.36 | Thunder_Child | you want a conical burr grinder |
| 07:19.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | bout as cheap as burr grinders come, but that one's disc |
| 07:19.50 | Thunder_Child | you mean wheel? |
| 07:20.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | This Burr Grinder from Capresso features a disk type grinder which grinds faster than conical burr grinders and creates a bit more warmth in the coffee (10,000 to 20,000 rpm). |
| 07:20.23 | Thunder_Child | Conical Burr - The best grinders you can get are conical burr grinders. The burr spins slower than the wheel model, which makes them quieter and less messy. You can use a conical burr grinder for oily or flavoured coffees and it's not likely to clog, like the other kinds of grinders. These are the best type, but you will pay the price for them. |
| 07:20.29 | Thunder_Child | Wheel Burr - The less expensive of the two burr grinders. The wheel spins very fast, and these grinders can be noisy. The higher speed rotation make these grinders more messy as well. |
| 07:20.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | as long as it's uniform i don't care |
| 07:20.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it can be loud and noisy |
| 07:21.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | and messy |
| 07:21.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just want a uniform grind :[ |
| 07:22.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd settle for a manual grinder if i could get one on the cheap |
| 07:22.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | <50 or so |
| 07:23.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | then after that, my goal is to start my own roasting process :/ |
| 07:28.57 | Thunder_Child | cant really help you as i dont do coffie |
| 07:29.05 | Guillotine | anybody here dual boot windows and unix? |
| 07:29.17 | Thunder_Child | atm no, but i have |
| 07:29.28 | Guillotine | what did you use to do it? |
| 07:29.32 | Thunder_Child | grub |
| 07:29.42 | Guillotine | alright |
| 07:29.51 | Guillotine | thats what I'm mostly reading is the best |
| 07:29.55 | Thunder_Child | windows first then nix, grub has to be master |
| 07:30.11 | Thunder_Child | btw i will be taking CS15 with you |
| 07:30.45 | Thunder_Child | looked far more intersting than poli sci |
| 07:32.52 | Guillotine | eh, maybe I should wait to try this until after finals |
| 07:33.00 | Guillotine | don't want to lose all of my final projects just in case something messes up :( |
| 07:33.16 | testleK | dual boot fedora, ubuntu and xp and i use grub |
| 07:33.24 | Thunder_Child | good idea, you will have 2 1/2 weeks or so to mess up your system |
| 07:33.45 | Thunder_Child | testleK, that would be more than dual... |
| 07:34.01 | testleK | fine lol ur right I triple boot :P |
| 07:37.57 | Guillotine | what version of unix would you suggest? |
| 07:39.27 | Thunder_Child | what do you want to do with it? |
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| 07:39.58 | Guillotine | nm, think I found it |
| 07:40.35 | Thunder_Child | personally i prefer FC (whatever version they are on now) |
| 07:41.25 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, why dual boot? |
| 07:41.31 | Thunder_Child | why not VM? |
| 07:41.37 | Guillotine | hmm, thats an idea |
| 07:41.37 | Thunder_Child | (or similar) |
| 07:41.44 | Guillotine | probably a better idea actually |
| 07:41.44 | cogwheel | Rayne: I SO called it... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3270771448&sid=1#1 |
| 07:41.57 | Thunder_Child | i prefer it for not having to reboot each time |
| 07:42.06 | Thunder_Child | really iritating that |
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| 07:43.04 | testleK | I like Red Hat and liking Red Hat I use fedora 8 at the moment |
| 07:43.11 | cogwheel | [21:34]<Rayne>http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3270771448&sid=1 whos going to say fag first in the thread? |
| 07:43.12 | cogwheel | <snip> |
| 07:43.14 | cogwheel | [21:36]<cogwheel>Rayne: probably kelfarr |
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| 07:52.54 | Fisker- | oooh Thunder_Child and cogwheel |
| 07:53.10 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, huh? |
| 07:53.32 | Thunder_Child | i swear i am going to hunt you down and kill you |
| 07:53.45 | cogwheel | /sigh |
| 07:53.48 | Fisker- | yay |
| 07:54.11 | Thunder_Child | isnt going to help cogwheel, its in your head |
| 07:54.20 | Thunder_Child | and mine too :( |
| 07:55.25 | Guillotine | anybody know of any good free VM software that allows unix to be booted on it? |
| 07:55.36 | cogwheel | vmware has a free version |
| 07:55.59 | cogwheel | you have to go through a few hoops to create a VM for it... |
| 07:56.15 | cogwheel | but its VM is full-featured |
| 07:57.03 | Thunder_Child | i wish Parallels for windows would host mac |
| 07:57.10 | Thunder_Child | i would be happy with that |
| 07:57.23 | Thunder_Child | Parallels for mac is awesome with windows on top of it |
| 07:59.37 | Thunder_Child | lol "Microsoft programmers also became frustrated with IBM's bureaucracy and its use of lines of code to measure programmer productivity.[14] IBM developers complained about the terseness and lack of comments in Microsoft's code, while Microsoft developers complained that IBM's code was bloated." |
| 07:59.52 | Thunder_Child | the last line is priceless |
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| 08:09.19 | Tem|AFK | I wish I could boot my ubuntu partition as a VM in windows |
| 08:09.39 | Tem|AFK | but since windows doesn't know wtf ext3 is, I can't even try |
| 08:10.16 | Thunder_Child | windows dosent have to know what it is, your VM software does |
| 08:16.49 | Guillotine | whoo! only 12 hours until fedora finishes downloading |
| 08:18.28 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, might go faster if you torrent it |
| 08:18.54 | Thunder_Child | i just realized Hellgate Londons install file size is 6.66GB |
| 08:19.01 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 08:19.03 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if that was done on purpose |
| 08:21.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably :P |
| 08:21.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | just like the lock t1 armor was 666 armor total before they buffed it |
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| 09:13.55 | Tem|AFK | Thunder_Child, windows is the host OS |
| 09:14.11 | Tem|AFK | so for the vm software to read a partition, windows has to be able to read it |
| 09:14.42 | Tem|AFK | at least that is my understanding of it |
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| 09:25.39 | Xuerian | Why not just get the ext2/ext3 driver? |
| 09:26.06 | Xuerian | I've had some variant of it for years o.0 |
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| 09:43.07 | cncfanatics | Tem|AFK, thats untrue |
| 09:43.20 | cncfanatics | that depends what OS you are running in VM and how |
| 09:49.47 | Tem|AFK | oro? |
| 09:55.25 | cncfanatics | if your client OS has direct access to the hard drives it can use whatever it wants |
| 10:04.17 | Tem|AFK | cncfanatics, but how is the vm even going to start the guest OS if it can't read the partition it live on? |
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| 10:12.32 | cncfanatics | Tem|AFK, by just using that partition's boot sector I guess ? |
| 10:13.16 | Tem|AFK | maybe this is because I don't know enough about it, but that doesn't even seem possible to me |
| 10:13.30 | Tem|AFK | when windows can't read a partition, it pretends it's not even there |
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| 10:26.55 | amro | Tem|AFK: that reminds me is there a tool like mount on windows? |
| 10:27.21 | Tem|AFK | dunno |
| 10:27.26 | Tem|AFK | ask uncle google |
| 10:30.15 | Fisker- | you can mount stuff to folders |
| 10:33.19 | Fisker- | If only they could use something like linux :< |
| 10:33.27 | Fisker- | silly companies |
| 10:34.26 | testleK | Hey all I have a stupid question here, can someone point me to how I would define an onload section in my lua code without the use of XML? |
| 10:35.00 | nevcairiel | testleK: you cant, you can however, just execute the necessary code directly =P |
| 10:35.17 | testleK | is it as simple as leaving off 'function' and just putting the code in? |
| 10:35.20 | amro | testleK: yep the frame is 'loaded' as soon as you call CreateFrame() |
| 10:35.52 | testleK | oh yikes I dont have any frames of anytype hrm |
| 10:36.13 | nevcairiel | just execute the code in the main chunk then |
| 10:36.18 | nevcairiel | no functions |
| 10:36.29 | testleK | ok cool I'll give that a try ty |
| 10:37.38 | nevcairiel | some stuff might not work in that state tho |
| 10:37.59 | nevcairiel | you might need to get a dummy frame to register for ADDON_LOADED or even later events |
| 10:39.31 | testleK | hmm alright I guess that means I need to learn about frames ;p |
| 10:43.15 | amro | testleK: not really, unless you need a GUI you just need to learn about events |
| 10:45.06 | testleK | Well my whole script is made up of /commands (figured this is best place to learn and get into gui effects / configs later once I have a handle on it) and I was going through the on events tutorial on wowwiki to figure out how to do default settings (from the howto's) and thats when I ran into the xml issue-- trying to write it all in lua hehe |
| 10:46.11 | testleK | and by whole script I mean it basically at this point prints some chat lol |
| 10:47.02 | amro | frames are relatively simple to use- I suggest looking at another addon's code with wowwiki's widget api page open |
| 10:50.36 | testleK | alright ill give that a shot see if I cant figure this out |
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| 11:22.27 | art3mis | boobies! |
| 11:23.23 | art3mis | yuoo could always just yse the dewdrop or waterfall ace2 libs, and make yer gui from that too |
| 11:23.34 | art3mis | use |
| 11:23.54 | art3mis | guis suck to make though ;) |
| 11:30.11 | testleK | Not to worried about gui if it means a dependency |
| 11:30.26 | testleK | ok so I think I got it figured out |
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| 11:32.36 | testleK | You can save a table to the sv without doing anything special right? as long as the table name is in the TOC for the SV? |
| 11:33.27 | wereHamster | yes |
| 11:33.38 | Polarina | It doesn't even have to be a name of the table. |
| 11:34.13 | testleK | Polarina: how so? |
| 11:34.42 | Polarina | testleK: It can be a name of a non-existing variable, string, number, etc. |
| 11:35.54 | testleK | ok I think I getcha |
| 11:35.59 | Polarina | :) |
| 11:36.10 | testleK | ty |
| 11:49.09 | testleK | ok I thought I had it figured out |
| 11:49.58 | testleK | so not sure if anyone can take a look at this: http://wowi.pastey.net/78657 and maybe point out why its not setting the default variables since they don't exist (its supposed to put the options into the table) |
| 11:52.59 | testleK | I think its messed up because maybe I'm calling the keys in the table wrong to check them? |
| 11:54.44 | Nargiddley | change line 7 to function TasOn_OnEvent(this, event) |
| 11:55.05 | Nargiddley | first param is the frame, so you wont be catching the event properly |
| 11:55.42 | testleK | oh |
| 11:56.18 | testleK | ok I see |
| 11:57.03 | testleK | thank you, and TasOn_Options.TO_Version is the right way to call key "TO_Version" in table "TasOn_Options" is this correct? |
| 11:57.12 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 11:57.25 | testleK | awsome thanks owe ya'll big time :) |
| 12:01.31 | testleK | right on works now, thanks again |
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| 12:42.18 | cncfanatics | Shirik, ping ? |
| 12:42.25 | cncfanatics | damn he's sleeping |
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| 14:01.58 | Shirik|zZz | cncfanatics: pong |
| 14:02.14 | Shirik|zZz | So for those of you that heard about me carrying 40 lbs of paper up the stairs yesterday |
| 14:02.22 | Shirik|zZz | My back is KILLING me today >< |
| 14:02.23 | cncfanatics | Shirik, I heard you were maybe writing some kind of system to update addons ingame ? |
| 14:02.53 | Shirik|zZz | affirmative, it was to be some sort of module in RDX |
| 14:03.07 | Shirik|zZz | It is not meant to be a permanent replacement |
| 14:03.20 | Shirik|zZz | but rather a method of distributing the most critical updates until someone can get the real update |
| 14:03.33 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, it sounds rather nice for all addons tbh |
| 14:03.42 | cncfanatics | how would it work ? |
| 14:04.10 | zenzelezz | don't dwarf hunters start with a gun? |
| 14:04.13 | Shirik | It's fairly simple, really. The only problem arises when you need to adjust something that is local to the file. |
| 14:04.25 | Shirik | It just takes hooking to the next level |
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| 14:04.59 | cladhaire | cncfanatics: its not really nice for all addons, its just a last resort if you need it |
| 14:05.07 | cladhaire | i would discourage it at all levels, honestly :P |
| 14:05.14 | cncfanatics | not planning to use it |
| 14:05.19 | cncfanatics | just not needed for something like flexbar ;p |
| 14:05.22 | cncfanatics | I'm just intrested |
| 14:05.36 | cladhaire | *nod* its a good academic excercise :P |
| 14:05.37 | Shirik | cladhaire's right, it becomes almost impossible to maintain after repeated use, which is why I say it's not a permanent replacement |
| 14:06.00 | Shirik | The only reason I ever did it in the first place was because of my guild constantly going "wtf mod doesn't work" and I'm like "wtf go download the update already" and they're like "wtf you update like every two days" |
| 14:06.03 | cncfanatics | well, you would need an update routine for every version at least ? |
| 14:06.14 | cncfanatics | 1.0->1.1 |
| 14:06.14 | Shirik | no |
| 14:06.17 | cncfanatics | 1.1->1.2; etc |
| 14:06.21 | cncfanatics | or how are u planning to do it ? |
| 14:06.49 | Shirik | The way I had done it is that each update had a sequential number associated with it |
| 14:06.56 | Shirik | 1.0 would start with 0, the first update would be 1 |
| 14:07.16 | Shirik | say, updates 1-5 are released before 1.1, then 1.1 has that number changed to 5 |
| 14:07.31 | Shirik | If the number of the update is <= to the number in the addon, it isn't run |
| 14:07.36 | cncfanatics | yea, I had something like that in mind |
| 14:07.39 | cncfanatics | but, supose |
| 14:07.46 | cncfanatics | how would you go from version 3 to version 8 ? |
| 14:07.58 | cncfanatics | 3->4, 4->5, 5->6, etc ? |
| 14:08.03 | Shirik | yup |
| 14:08.17 | Shirik | the updates are always run in order when it can |
| 14:08.23 | Shirik | however it is permissible to skip them if it can't be found |
| 14:08.30 | cncfanatics | skip an update could break the addon |
| 14:08.31 | Shirik | say, someone has 3 and 5... it'll run 3 then 5 |
| 14:08.38 | Shirik | though in retrospect I don't see how it's possible for someone to miss one |
| 14:08.47 | cncfanatics | well, in theory, how would 5 not have 4 ? |
| 14:08.52 | Shirik | exactly |
| 14:09.02 | Shirik | so that code was actually a bit unnecessary, but it's there |
| 14:09.10 | cncfanatics | btw, also |
| 14:09.15 | cncfanatics | say you release version 6 of an addon |
| 14:09.25 | cncfanatics | it would contain the update code for 1->2, 2->3; 3->4 etc ? |
| 14:09.30 | Shirik | yes, it has to |
| 14:09.35 | Shirik | that's the only way to seed it, really |
| 14:09.42 | cncfanatics | thought so |
| 14:09.45 | Shirik | /someone/ has to hvae it |
| 14:09.48 | cncfanatics | thats kind of a major pain to maintain in the long run |
| 14:09.57 | Shirik | totally |
| 14:10.19 | Shirik | not to mention a 10 minute signing of each patch |
| 14:10.19 | cncfanatics | and it might blow up in ur face at some point if you don't do it correctly :/ |
| 14:10.22 | Shirik | even if it's only like 1 line |
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| 14:10.45 | cncfanatics | anyway, I got a bus to get |
| 14:10.46 | cncfanatics | cya |
| 14:10.49 | Shirik | take care |
| 14:11.01 | Lunessa | cheerful morning people will be gleefully exectured. |
| 14:11.16 | Lunessa | er, executed. |
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| 14:15.58 | Shirik|Shower | HI LUNESSA! |
| 14:16.05 | Shirik|Shower | ISN'T IT A BEAUTIFUL DAY TODAY?! |
| 14:17.13 | Shirik | ~dict howitzer |
| 14:17.15 | art3mis | hrm ive been up too long |
| 14:17.58 | art3mis | i always thought that was the barrel of a tank |
| 14:18.04 | art3mis | like on the abrhams |
| 14:18.19 | Shirik | Lunessaaaaa |
| 14:18.22 | Lunessa | Learn something new every day, huh? |
| 14:18.23 | Shirik | my back is killing me >< |
| 14:18.28 | art3mis | yeah it's spooky |
| 14:18.42 | Shirik | I feel like I'm 70 years old |
| 14:18.44 | art3mis | been fucking around with webshit all night out of boredom and a new host ;P |
| 14:18.45 | Shirik | every time I get out of a chair |
| 14:18.47 | Lunessa | Hey, you're the one giving piggy back rides to 10,000 page documents... |
| 14:19.05 | art3mis | gothi.ca ;) |
| 14:19.18 | Lunessa | art3mis: punny |
| 14:19.25 | art3mis | had it for a long time just got bored and figured i'd do "something" with it |
| 14:19.30 | art3mis | still not entirely sure what |
| 14:20.11 | malreth | i still have iscomputeronfire.com |
| 14:20.18 | malreth | still haven't done anything with hit |
| 14:20.25 | malreth | s/hit/it/ |
| 14:20.31 | art3mis | that just screams for a pic gallery ;P |
| 14:20.53 | Shirik | wow |
| 14:20.56 | Shirik | we're #2 horde guild |
| 14:21.01 | Shirik | but #8 overall |
| 14:21.02 | Shirik | wtf |
| 14:21.05 | malreth | it's a reference to an api call in the BeOS |
| 14:21.07 | Lunessa | I gave up "hellfreezesover.com" in 2000 'cause I was sick of having to secure it against script kiddies trying to be cool giving themselves e-mail on my domain. |
| 14:21.13 | Shirik | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/drenden/ |
| 14:21.18 | malreth | some OS engineer added it to the system |
| 14:21.45 | art3mis | heh |
| 14:21.46 | malreth | in the event that the computer was on fire, it would return the temperature of the CPU core |
| 14:21.53 | malreth | otherwise the return was undefined |
| 14:21.56 | art3mis | thats kind of useful |
| 14:22.00 | Shirik | wtf |
| 14:22.02 | Shirik | why doesn't it say ZA? |
| 14:22.04 | art3mis | a shutdown might ahve been better though ;P |
| 14:22.08 | Shirik | screw you wowjutsu |
| 14:22.24 | art3mis | the beos people were wierd |
| 14:22.24 | malreth | there was another API call called iscomputeron or something like that |
| 14:22.32 | art3mis | not as creepy as the netbsd people though |
| 14:22.33 | malreth | sorry... iscomputeroff |
| 14:22.46 | malreth | returned true if the computer was off... undefined otherwise |
| 14:22.48 | art3mis | i cant wait til monday |
| 14:22.53 | art3mis | it's gona eb a GREAT week |
| 14:23.04 | Antiarc | I own worldofworkcraft.com and I keep meaning to implement some kind of browser-based progress quest with it |
| 14:23.09 | art3mis | xbox360 arrives, which means i get to convert/mod the old xbox |
| 14:23.13 | Antiarc | So you could grind rep in your browser or some crap |
| 14:23.15 | Antiarc | At work |
| 14:23.20 | Shirik | omg, and I've been to more than kara! |
| 14:23.23 | Shirik | wowjutsu is bad :P |
| 14:23.29 | Antiarc | wowjutsu is spotty |
| 14:23.33 | Antiarc | Especially for guild alliances |
| 14:23.40 | Lunessa | In some old accounting code I was debugging for a city I found functions called "oral_sex" and a result code called "orgasm" so someone had written a stupid loop called "Perform oral_sex Until orgasm" - I didn't have the heart to rewrite it, so I left it for the next programmer to fix. |
| 14:23.40 | art3mis | and on wednesday the cable guy comes to hook up my brand spanking new 30/5 business connection at home that a client is paying for |
| 14:23.50 | Shirik | I've downed kara, gruul, void reaver, mag |
| 14:23.56 | Shirik | lurker |
| 14:24.04 | Shirik | bosses in ZA |
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| 14:24.19 | Shirik | anyway I have to go get something to eat before meeting |
| 14:24.21 | Shirik | take care |
| 14:24.25 | Antiarc | We're 4/5 in Hyjal and 4/9 in BT and it only shows us with half of TKE cleared |
| 14:24.27 | art3mis | Antiarc: you need to make a java based text version of wow ;P |
| 14:24.44 | malreth | for me it's |
| 14:24.45 | art3mis | only work related ;P |
| 14:24.50 | Antiarc | Hehe |
| 14:24.55 | art3mis | go you can grind rep by makig photcopies |
| 14:24.56 | malreth | "perform oral_sex until tired" |
| 14:25.01 | malreth | but i guess i'm doing it wrong |
| 14:25.10 | art3mis | or really flexible |
| 14:25.24 | Lunessa | malreth: I guess so... |
| 14:25.47 | art3mis | speaking of which |
| 14:25.51 | art3mis | i think its bed time |
| 14:26.04 | Shirik|AFK | malreth: It's repeat..until, not perform..until |
| 14:26.12 | art3mis | gotta clean and put up the tree today |
| 14:26.24 | art3mis | ni ni kiddies |
| 14:29.06 | malreth | #DEFINE perform repeat |
| 14:29.59 | Shirik|AFK | #define should not be all caps :P |
| 14:30.14 | malreth | whatever... do i look like a programmer? |
| 14:32.21 | malreth | IEEE... the sound people make when an airplane crashes |
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| 14:33.07 | Lunessa | jesus... are they putting some shit in the water up there in Austin, or did you go to 6th street last night? |
| 14:33.43 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 14:33.44 | purl | malreth is always right |
| 14:33.59 | malreth | hm... not quite right, purl... but i'll accept it |
| 14:34.09 | malreth | ~botsnack |
| 14:34.09 | purl | malreth: thanks |
| 14:34.36 | Lunessa | This must be Saturday, I never could get the hang of Saturdays. |
| 14:35.04 | stavmar | the water in Austin is quite horrible actually, so maybe there is some sort of excrement in it |
| 14:35.29 | malreth | there are often algae blooms in lake travis |
| 14:35.42 | malreth | makes the water taste all cruddy for a month |
| 14:35.49 | Lunessa | I know. Drink bottled. It's safer. |
| 14:35.51 | malreth | but that really only happens in the summer |
| 14:36.00 | malreth | or just filter it |
| 14:36.27 | malreth | i don't believe in bottled water |
| 14:36.52 | Lunessa | I used to live in Austin. I drank only filtered/bottled water or stuff I boiled for tea. It was just too nasty otherwise. |
| 14:37.14 | malreth | municipal water is safer and cheaper and reduces your carbon footprint and waste output. filter it if you don't like the taste. |
| 14:37.54 | stavmar | well in the end, it is just a ton of chlorine and furide that gies it the taste |
| 14:38.03 | stavmar | flouride* |
| 14:39.48 | Lunessa | mmmm.. fluoridation |
| 14:41.50 | stavmar | Lunessa: out of curiosity did you know your name is type of Birth control? |
| 14:41.59 | stavmar | is a* |
| 14:42.03 | Lunessa | ... |
| 14:42.11 | Lunessa | um, no. Linkee? |
| 14:42.22 | stavmar | hold on let me find it |
| 14:43.24 | malreth | ~wiki Lunessa |
| 14:43.37 | malreth | !g Lunessa |
| 14:43.38 | batbot | malreth: Welcome to Lunessa.com! <http://www.lunessa.com/> |
| 14:44.38 | Lunessa | Haha... That beats getting asked all the time "Hey, isn't that the sleeping pill?" |
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| 14:47.48 | stavmar | well, it looks like it is not marketd anymore, it was a generic to Mircette, but I cannot find it..SOrry for the confusion I just thought it was funny, maybe the name change occured due to to Lunesta |
| 14:49.03 | Lunessa | No worries. I have another character, and someone told me that name meant "wife" in some foreign babble. I told him his name meant "stupid" in any language. |
| 14:49.44 | stavmar | lol |
| 14:50.21 | stavmar | there is still a Lunelle BC, but i must have been mistaken, so i apologize for the comment |
| 14:50.30 | Lunessa | But, I did google the name, and discovered some beautty queen in India had the same name. |
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| 14:55.52 | Lunessa | ... jebus on a pogo-stick, guy wants a filter, he gets bile spewed. |
| 14:56.10 | Shirik|Ghost | awesome! |
| 14:56.22 | Shirik|Ghost | To continue my school's horrible junk mail filter |
| 14:56.45 | Shirik|Ghost | along with the course evaluations and account statements, I now have another mail in my junk mailbox |
| 14:56.53 | Shirik|Ghost | "Christmas flight plans" from my dad |
| 14:57.00 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3270771448&sid=1 |
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| 15:01.28 | mikma | lovely threads you got there |
| 15:03.32 | mikma | all we got in eu are something like this http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1905890903&sid=1 |
| 15:05.08 | Antiarc | At least they can claim things like "English is not my first language" |
| 15:05.20 | Lunessa | There is nothing in the world more painful to read than a non-native speaker describing a technical problem in English. |
| 15:05.21 | Shirik|Ghost | is that how you spell it in the EU? |
| 15:05.23 | Shirik|Ghost | Inreface? |
| 15:05.36 | Antiarc | Inerface? I barely know 'er! |
| 15:06.58 | mikma | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=76467672&sid=1 |
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| 15:55.01 | Wobin | can you use specific names in [target]? |
| 15:55.19 | wereHamster | player names? |
| 15:55.52 | Wobin | mob name |
| 15:57.15 | |Jelly| | "[W From] <Titom>: please i need help for make this dungeon" /sigh |
| 15:59.05 | wereHamster | Wobin, no |
| 15:59.10 | Wobin | alas |
| 16:01.02 | Lunessa | I swear, working on Saturday is designed specifically to punish me for past sins. |
| 16:01.34 | wereHamster | don't sin! |
| 16:01.51 | malreth | wereHamster: shit... i just did... |
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| 16:12.02 | Lunessa | So, I get a request to open a locked lab for a conference - because they have the room reserved for today. Great, they're not on the list for door codes, so WTF am I supposed to do? Oh and check this out... 15 conference attendee want computer network logins - without prior notice or authorization. The organizer of this thing screwed the pooch and now wants to blame me? Lady I don't care if you do have 2 PHDs - fuck off. |
| 16:13.21 | malreth | ah... academics |
| 16:13.41 | malreth | the only thing worse than irate professors are insane grad students |
| 16:14.25 | Lunessa | Especially when they KNOW they fucked up. |
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| 18:01.50 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821| "I'm not sure if it's just a quirk in how my brain is wired" - Iriel |
| 18:05.21 | cladhaire | A list of all CVars and their defaults: http://wowi.pastey.net/78680 |
| 18:05.24 | cladhaire | by the way |
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| 18:08.05 | Rayne | hmm |
| 18:11.15 | wereHamster | cladhaire, isn't that list somewhere on wowwiki? |
| 18:11.19 | cladhaire | updated list |
| 18:11.19 | cladhaire | http://wowi.pastey.net/78681 |
| 18:11.27 | cladhaire | wereHamster: not _that_ list |
| 18:11.28 | cladhaire | but a list. |
| 18:12.49 | cladhaire | plus someone asked for it |
| 18:12.52 | cladhaire | so i produced it :P |
| 18:13.03 | cladhaire | bbias |
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| 18:20.27 | Industrial | hm I wonder how hard it would be to write somethnig that checks if e.g. there are currently any motes of anything that are lower to buy then a primal costs so you can combine them and put the primal up and get profit |
| 18:20.53 | Thunder_Child | you could hack bottom scanner |
| 18:21.04 | Iriel | I suspect it's moderately straightforward if you hook into the Auctioneer Advanced plugin infrastructure |
| 18:21.16 | kergoth | add a new btmscan module, thatd be a cool feature |
| 18:21.40 | MentalPower | what they said :) |
| 18:21.46 | Industrial | hehe :P |
| 18:22.30 | Industrial | MentalPower: the instant data pull from the AH so you dont have to scan anymore, blizzard deactivated that right? |
| 18:22.35 | Industrial | is that ever coming back? |
| 18:22.43 | Industrial | 30+ mins scanning ftl :\ |
| 18:22.55 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 18:23.31 | MentalPower | its back on the PTR IIRC |
| 18:23.46 | Industrial | k |
| 18:24.41 | MentalPower | we have not reactivated it yet in our side tho, since it bit us last time due to the small size of the PTR |
| 18:25.14 | Industrial | oh it would lock up/etc ? |
| 18:30.43 | MentalPower | DC |
| 18:31.23 | kergoth | pretty amusing really, they should've handed the lua code a coroutine that'd scan a chunk at a time or something |
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| 18:34.51 | MentalPower | we tried using coroutines, it didn't help |
| 18:35.00 | MentalPower | the client DCs as soon as you call the function |
| 18:35.46 | kergoth | nod, the function just takes too long to return, and they stupidly didn't make the function poke the server occasionally |
| 18:35.48 | kergoth | silly blizzard |
| 18:36.47 | MentalPower | it worked fine on the PTR |
| 18:37.13 | kergoth | just less data to scan there? |
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| 18:37.29 | cladhaire | MentalPower: what happened with the 10k+ AH we had on the PTR |
| 18:37.32 | cladhaire | what testing did that show? |
| 18:37.48 | MentalPower | it worked afaik |
| 18:37.55 | MentalPower | s/afaik// |
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| 19:52.34 | malreth | which came first... the bacon or the egg... |
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| 20:19.54 | Shirik | Iriel: ping |
| 20:20.04 | Iriel | Shirik: pong |
| 20:20.10 | Shirik | Hey Iriel have you ever messed with QNX? |
| 20:20.27 | Iriel | No, it's been around forever though |
| 20:20.33 | Shirik | blah |
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| 20:20.44 | Shirik | I'm not sure if I'm installing this wrong or what and I have no idea who I can ask >< |
| 20:20.54 | malreth | call canada... they know |
| 20:21.20 | zenzelezz | well, why QNX? |
| 20:21.30 | Shirik | We need an RTOS, and QNX is free :P |
| 20:21.41 | zenzelezz | fair enough |
| 20:21.59 | Shirik | it was also recommended to me |
| 20:22.10 | Shirik | Just the CD won't boot, so I'm wondering if I just burned it wrong |
| 20:22.14 | Shirik | my CD drive is poor |
| 20:22.18 | malreth | it's on a cd now? |
| 20:22.40 | zenzelezz | what program did you burn the CD with? |
| 20:22.48 | Shirik | I forget |
| 20:22.54 | Shirik | never used it before :P |
| 20:23.17 | malreth | the entire OS, and a web browser on one floppy |
| 20:23.18 | Shirik | well it can still be on floppy |
| 20:23.20 | zenzelezz | I recall having trouble burning bootable CDs/DVDs with Nero for some reason; InfraRecorder worked fine |
| 20:23.24 | Shirik | just it comes with IDE Momentics now |
| 20:26.14 | amro | Shirik: did you try http://www.openqnx.com/ |
| 20:26.24 | Shirik | uh |
| 20:26.27 | Shirik | QNX is open source... |
| 20:26.36 | Shirik | why does that even exist |
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| 20:27.48 | amro | QNX was only made opensource very recently |
| 20:28.06 | Shirik | truth |
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| 20:38.33 | Guillotine | anybody know who the lead of the auctioneer team is? |
| 20:39.14 | malreth | well... there's norganna |
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| 20:39.38 | malreth | and there's that other guy... |
| 20:39.45 | Guillotine | MP |
| 20:39.57 | Guillotine | I knew they both worked on it, but didn't know who was currently lead :) |
| 20:40.42 | MentalPower | I'm the Lead of Auctioneer |
| 20:40.50 | MentalPower | Esamynn is the Lead of Gatherer |
| 20:41.17 | MentalPower | Norganna is the glue and Lead of the other assorted projects (pastey, wowwatcher and others) |
| 20:42.06 | malreth | MentalPower! He's the other guy... |
| 20:43.11 | Thunder_Child | malreth, drinking fails |
| 20:44.08 | malreth | Nuuuuuuuu!!! Mine medicine! |
| 20:44.32 | Thunder_Child | medicine my ass |
| 20:45.04 | Thunder_Child | mental....image...hurts... |
| 20:45.34 | Thelyna | not to mention ... medicating your ass with vodka is gunna sting a bit, no? |
| 20:45.55 | Thunder_Child | vodka as a suppository... |
| 20:46.25 | malreth | a waste of perfectly good vodka |
| 20:46.35 | malreth | use gin instead. it already tastes like ass. |
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| 20:53.07 | Anch | Hi all.. quick question. |
| 20:53.42 | Anch | for some reason /scrip function(focus) isn't working any longer.. (not passing focus into the function) did that change in 2.3? |
| 20:54.07 | Guillotine | focus isn't really a variable |
| 20:54.12 | Guillotine | you probably want "focus" |
| 20:54.34 | Anch | "focus" passes the word focus into the lua |
| 20:54.43 | malreth | Anch: correct |
| 20:54.44 | Anch | I want the name of the mob I have my focus set to passed to the function. |
| 20:54.46 | Guillotine | not unless you have quotes around it |
| 20:54.55 | Guillotine | put UnitName("focus") |
| 20:55.49 | Anch | thnx.. that worked great! |
| 20:55.59 | malreth | "isn't working any longer?" |
| 20:56.09 | Anch | it used to work just fine. |
| 20:56.15 | Anch | 2.3 it started throwing errors. |
| 20:56.20 | malreth | you're sure of that... |
| 20:56.23 | Anch | yup |
| 20:56.35 | malreth | what is this function that you are calling? |
| 20:56.36 | Anch | been using this macro and a lua I wrote for ever. |
| 20:56.46 | Anch | custom random poly message addon. |
| 20:56.48 | foxlit | Someone leaking a global variable then |
| 20:56.57 | foxlit | It should not have ever worked. |
| 20:56.58 | Anch | yeah, prolly. |
| 20:57.07 | malreth | yes... not ever |
| 20:57.12 | Anch | thanks again! |
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| 20:59.12 | malreth | if blizzard enforced a namespace for each addon... |
| 20:59.29 | malreth | meh... there'd be extra table lookups for globals |
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| 21:01.13 | malreth | course, they could put their entire api inside a package named "wow" |
| 21:01.37 | zenzelezz | or "gosh" |
| 21:01.38 | malreth | then you could just local wow = wow in your script |
| 21:01.50 | malreth | no... "wow" saves one character |
| 21:02.01 | malreth | that means less work for your CPUs |
| 21:02.18 | malreth | ***think of the savings*** |
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| 21:35.19 | kergoth | Hmm, what are the top hunter pets, just considering dps? Ravager, cat, raptor, wind serpent? |
| 21:35.33 | batrick | Trex |
| 21:36.13 | ccox | see http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/ |
| 21:37.04 | ccox | cat, ravager, raptor are the same, and top the list for DPS |
| 21:37.19 | kergoth | that alone isnt that useful, just the +% damage modifier doesn't account for what abilities they have. isn't gore superior to claw? that's what i've heard, anyway |
| 21:38.15 | ccox | for that matter, even the hunter's equip and talents affect the result |
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| 21:38.35 | ccox | there are too many variables to get an exact value |
| 21:38.49 | Dhraga | a question if anyone have the time, is it possible to put in a simple zone check before the AddMsg on line 486 in this VoidReaverAlarm http://ace.pastey.net/78690 (so that it only reports the pinger when your in the Tempest Keep instance) ? |
| 21:40.28 | batrick | if (event=="MINIMAP_PING") and GetRealZoneText():find("Botanica") ... then |
| 21:40.39 | batrick | you need to fill in the rest of the instances |
| 21:41.01 | Dhraga | Thanks, it's only for The eye |
| 21:41.08 | batrick | should be "and not" instead of "and" |
| 21:41.44 | batrick | or wait, and is right |
| 21:41.53 | Dhraga | aye |
| 21:42.03 | Thunder_Child | do they have a GetFakeZoneText? |
| 21:42.15 | Dhraga | Looks good, thank you very much |
| 21:42.22 | Dhraga | lol thunder |
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| 22:05.49 | leethal | dots can't crit, right? |
| 22:07.56 | zenzelezz | don't believe they can |
| 22:08.57 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 22:09.00 | zenzelezz | "Damage over time effects cannot crit, they receive no bonuses from critical chance." -- from the Wiki |
| 22:09.30 | leethal | right, thanks |
| 22:10.53 | Thunder_Child | ignite would be the closest |
| 22:11.17 | Thunder_Child | since it id dependant on the base dmg done |
| 22:11.21 | Thunder_Child | is* |
| 22:11.48 | leethal | ah, I see |
| 22:20.01 | zenzelezz | so the last few days, every few hours the trade channel on my realm gets spammed with a ton of people making random sentences including the word "dirge", using the item link for the sword |
| 22:20.08 | zenzelezz | and I have no idea what started it |
| 22:22.15 | Lunessa | Can I get a syntax check? -- |
| 22:22.45 | Lunessa | script /run SetModifiedClick("SELFCAST", "key"); SaveBindings(GetCurrentBindingSet()); |
| 22:23.19 | Lunessa | Or has my brain taken leave of its senses today? |
| 22:27.17 | testleK | Ok stupid question from testleK time... ;-P |
| 22:28.27 | testleK | So I packed all of my "options" into a table, now I save the Table to the sv... Now the problem is I cant figure out how to get them out of the table so I dont have to call tablename.optionname to use the option and I can't seem to locate and info on wowwiki for this.... |
| 22:28.48 | ccox | that depends on how you packed them.. |
| 22:29.31 | testleK | lemme pasty it Ill show ya :P |
| 22:31.42 | testleK | http://wowi.pastey.net/78692 |
| 22:32.01 | testleK | hacks it down to the related code so its easier |
| 22:32.13 | testleK | *hacked |
| 22:33.22 | testleK | the only thing I can think of is to manually define local for each tablename.keyname |
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| 22:36.10 | malreth | why even do that... table lookups are fast in lua |
| 22:36.31 | malreth | true, they're not as fast as a local variable... but still... pretty fast |
| 22:37.59 | testleK | Not really sure just thought thats how you were supposed to do it lol |
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| 22:40.23 | ccox | hmm, I don't see any packing in there, just normal named entries in a table (hopefully with default values if none are set) |
| 22:41.07 | testleK | well yeah I didn't add them in later I actually define them in after the on event if they dont exist |
| 22:41.14 | ccox | Also, if something is using default values, there is no reason to create a table entry for it |
| 22:41.39 | ccox | then you will always create the values, even if the user hasn't changed the default |
| 22:43.43 | testleK | hrm I thought the way I had it set up it only placed the default into the table if the keyname doesn't exist? (trying to make it easy to add options in the future and keep them all in one spot) |
| 22:45.25 | ccox | yes, you do -- but then the option is in the table even if the option is set to the default value |
| 22:45.55 | ccox | if you have an access function (instead of using the table directly), then you can store table entries only when they differ from the default |
| 22:46.06 | ccox | keeps things a bit cleaner when you add/remove/change defaults |
| 22:46.44 | testleK | oh I think I understand what you are saying now |
| 22:47.53 | testleK | so what I need to do is figure out how to write an access function that does these checks |
| 22:48.21 | ccox | for a big example: enchantrix/EnxSettings.lua |
| 22:48.53 | ccox | (setter and getter should be kinda obvious) |
| 22:50.49 | testleK | ok cool Ill dig through that it should be a good help |
| 22:51.08 | testleK | ty ty for pointing me in the right direction |
| 22:51.17 | malreth | for bonus credit |
| 22:51.28 | malreth | have a table of all your default values |
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| 22:51.58 | malreth | add an __index metatable entry to your saved variables table and set it to your default value table |
| 22:52.12 | malreth | done |
| 22:52.17 | malreth | no functions needed |
| 22:52.37 | malreth | but if you're unfamiliar with metatables, it'll twist your noodle a bit until you understand them |
| 22:52.45 | testleK | lol |
| 22:53.02 | testleK | never even heard of it until you mentioned it just now ;P |
| 22:53.30 | malreth | read it in the PIL |
| 22:53.32 | malreth | ~pil |
| 22:53.32 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 22:54.08 | malreth | you can define a metatable entry that provides default values for undefined keys |
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| 22:56.22 | testleK | whoa interesting and confusing lol |
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| 22:58.13 | testleK | Cool well this setting and checking of defaults is a lot more complicated than I originally anticipated lol |
| 22:59.02 | testleK | hopefully after I get this part licked I'll have some idea of what I'm doing so that my addon will actually do something in the future haha-- ty for all your help |
| 23:00.06 | pprovost | I'm looking for a way... or an event... that I can use to know the user is completely logged in, all addons loaded and they are seeing the game and not the loading screen. What's the best way to do that? |
| 23:00.29 | malreth | PLAYER_LOGIN... i think |
| 23:00.33 | malreth | i have to check the wiki |
| 23:00.38 | pprovost | I didn't think that was early enough. I'll check. |
| 23:00.57 | pprovost | s/early/late/ |
| 23:01.01 | malreth | !api events that fire |
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| 23:01.14 | malreth | !g events that fire site:wowwiki.com |
| 23:01.15 | batbot | malreth: Events that fire during the loading process - WoWWiki - Your guide ... <http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process> |
| 23:02.08 | pprovost | Looks like maybe PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD will work. I'll give it a try. Thanks malreth |
| 23:02.39 | malreth | remember that PEW also fires when you enter or leave an instance |
| 23:03.10 | JoshBorke | PEW |
| 23:03.14 | pprovost | PLAYER_ALIVE might work too. |
| 23:03.18 | malreth | so if you're using it for one time initializing, you should unregister it |
| 23:03.24 | pprovost | Yep |
| 23:04.11 | zenzelezz | do you receive buff notifications before you're seeing the in-game world? |
| 23:05.44 | malreth | unsure |
| 23:06.46 | testleK | What does the tilda stand for in if ( option ~= nil ) then ? |
| 23:06.55 | zenzelezz | not |
| 23:06.57 | pprovost | not |
| 23:06.59 | zenzelezz | ! in C |
| 23:07.03 | testleK | ahh |
| 23:07.05 | testleK | ty |
| 23:07.12 | pprovost | as in "option not equal to nil" |
| 23:07.20 | malreth | totally useless, tho |
| 23:07.27 | malreth | if option then is sufficient |
| 23:07.35 | pprovost | in that casr |
| 23:07.41 | pprovost | s/casr/case/ |
| 23:07.43 | zenzelezz | not useless, just pointless/unnecessary |
| 23:07.52 | malreth | unless you're trying to explicitly test for nil when the variable could also be false |
| 23:08.35 | malreth | ok... maybe not useless... but yes... unnecessary in that case |
| 23:08.54 | testleK | well I was just reading through this other code to get ideas / edu - ma - cate myself and it's used to return option else getdefault |
| 23:10.54 | MentalPower | right because in that code false is indeed a valid value for option |
| 23:13.02 | malreth | didn't know the context... in most cases, it still stands |
| 23:13.33 | Duman | forums fubar again? hmm |
| 23:13.43 | testleK | ok I understand now and think I actually understand what most of this code does that I'm reading // to some extent atleast |
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| 23:19.53 | malreth | purl, say something |
| 23:19.54 | purl | something |
| 23:20.12 | JoshBorke | anybody know if there are spells with the same name shared between classes? |
| 23:20.45 | malreth | i think blizzard specifically made sure there weren't any |
| 23:21.28 | JoshBorke | ok, i'll go on that assumption then |
| 23:27.53 | Thunder_Child | anyone know offhand what kernal FC8 is running? |
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| 23:28.52 | Thunder_Child | kernel* |
| 23:29.04 | testleK | you mean current version? |
| 23:29.08 | Thunder_Child | nvm, found it |
| 23:29.16 | testleK | k |
| 23:29.20 | Thunder_Child | ty though |
| 23:34.38 | Corrodias | didn't the water elemental have a Frost Nova spell? was that renamed? |
| 23:35.13 | zenzelezz | it was renamed to Freeze I think? |
| 23:35.21 | Duman | yeah |
| 23:35.23 | Duman | it's "Freeze" |
| 23:35.34 | Corrodias | thought so. but then there are abilities like attack, shoot, and racials that are shared among classes. |
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| 23:38.58 | Lej | Is the name above mobs in (red) text a frame? |
| 23:39.17 | Lej | (NOT the one you get when you press v) |
| 23:41.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't think so |
| 23:41.11 | Corrodias | i don't think it is |
| 23:41.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's considered part of the game world |
| 23:41.21 | Lej | :( |
| 23:41.24 | Corrodias | although when i press v, i get my bags. |
| 23:41.37 | Lej | well v is the default button for it |
| 23:42.31 | Lej | wanted to add an arrow above my target or something similar |
| 23:43.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | you may be able to do something like that with aloft, but i have no clue |
| 23:43.07 | Lej | aloft works but it's the range that's limited |
| 23:43.09 | Thunder_Child | you vould attach it to the nameplates |
| 23:43.13 | Thunder_Child | could* |
| 23:43.26 | Thunder_Child | yes, range limited |
| 23:47.13 | Taeri | Has anyone of you played around with the GuildBank API functions? |
| 23:48.35 | art3mis | http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/15268-WoW_Saves_Children039s_Lives |
| 23:49.18 | Corrodias | not the moose thing again... |
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| 23:49.28 | art3mis | yes |
| 23:50.30 | Corrodias | can't wait for the killer moose NPC. |
| 23:53.39 | Corrodias | there, got the kibler's bits recipe today |
| 23:55.31 | art3mis | Area: A room with a Moose. |
| 23:56.01 | malreth | a dimension of puuuuure itchy! |
| 23:56.12 | malreth | it may not look it but that stuff is reeeaaally itchy |
| 23:56.26 | zenzelezz | we passionately referred to one of our druid healers before TBC as "the moose" |
| 23:56.50 | art3mis | it was that or a dimension of dookie! |
| 23:57.11 | malreth | mooseform! |
| 23:57.14 | Taeri | I want more comments in the blizzard made addons stuff XD |
| 23:57.41 | art3mis | i shall go now dib.. say moosey fate...SAY MOOSEY FATE! i'll leave you to your "moosey fate" |
| 23:57.47 | zenzelezz | I miss aspects of Anarchy Online in WoW... like not all characters of one race being the same height; and tanks having spells that made them significantly larger than everyone |
