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| 00:04.54 | kd3 | oh wow... |
| 00:04.58 | Duman | hmm |
| 00:05.05 | kd3 | those "fake" sunwell plateau items may not be fake after all |
| 00:05.15 | Shirik|Ecole | great... my laptop doesn't have a serial port |
| 00:05.22 | Duman | yay, hortus added the haste explanation to the sticky |
| 00:05.25 | Shirik|Ecole | anyone know if Radio Shack would have a USB->Serial converter? |
| 00:05.25 | kd3 | a little birdy told me that someone got fired the day those items were leaked... |
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| 00:05.48 | Shirik|Ecole | kd3: Did the person that leaked the information that someone got fired get fired? |
| 00:06.10 | kd3 | not afaik |
| 00:06.22 | alestane | Shirik|Ecole: USB device to serial port, or vice versa? |
| 00:06.34 | Shirik|Ecole | serial device to usb port |
| 00:06.52 | alestane | THen they did a year ago at least, but it's like $42US. |
| 00:06.59 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't really care the price atm |
| 00:07.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I just want to know if they have one |
| 00:08.06 | alestane | Still stocked, 34.99 according to their website. It'll tell you how close you can get it instock to your ZIP code. |
| 00:09.26 | Thunder_Child | $35 for a converter? bah! |
| 00:09.40 | kd3 | it's radio shack |
| 00:09.49 | alestane | Came down actually, I think it was higher. |
| 00:09.53 | Shirik|Ecole | psh, I'm not paying for it |
| 00:09.57 | alestane | Yes, the convenience store of electronics. |
| 00:10.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I'll give the receipt to my school and they'll pay for it |
| 00:10.10 | alestane | item #26-183 |
| 00:10.45 | Tuller | Cairenn: or anyone else with the power: Can you remove vBagnon BC, Bongos BC, and OmniCC BC, and Bagnon KC from the website for me please? :) |
| 00:10.56 | Cairenn | Tuller: ? :( |
| 00:11.10 | JoshBorke | don't want to move them to out-dated? |
| 00:11.11 | Tuller | Cairenn: they're beta versions |
| 00:11.19 | Cairenn | okay |
| 00:11.35 | Tuller | Cairenn: don't worry, i'm not killing off bongos :) |
| 00:11.37 | Cairenn | pm me with the links, please? so I make sure I move/delete the correct ones |
| 00:11.51 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|AFK, male for femail serial connector? |
| 00:11.59 | Thunder_Child | female* |
| 00:12.25 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: an understandable typo |
| 00:13.08 | Thunder_Child | it is? i figured it was just my usual bad speeling from not paying attention |
| 00:13.16 | Thunder_Child | spell* |
| 00:13.17 | Thunder_Child | sigh |
| 00:17.45 | Gnarfoz | how do I get screen width and height of what WoW is currently rendering? |
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| 00:19.52 | Tuller | GetScreenWidth, GetScreenHeight? |
| 00:20.32 | Shirik|Ecole | Tuller, I see, I'm not cool enough |
| 00:20.36 | Shirik|Ecole | go to Cairenn, I don't care. |
| 00:20.45 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:21.04 | Tuller | you can make my motherboard get to my house faster |
| 00:21.58 | Gnarfoz | Tuller: that returns something that doesn't quite make sense :D 1137.7778... pixels on a 1680x1050 screen; set to windowed, maximized? hrm |
| 00:23.41 | bleeter | kd3: you random player with useless info, you! |
| 00:23.50 | kd3 | lol |
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| 00:27.30 | Tuller | Gnarfoz: /run select(GetCurrentResolution(), GetScreenResolutions()) |
| 00:27.52 | Tuller | well select(GetCurrentResolution(), GetScreenResolutions()) |
| 00:27.57 | Tuller | returns a string, I think |
| 00:28.12 | Gnarfoz | sure that works for windowed/maximized mode? |
| 00:28.14 | Tuller | this is the code I found to do it: local width, height = string.match((({GetScreenResolutions()})[GetCurrentResolution()] or ""), "(%d+).-(%d+)"); |
| 00:28.22 | Tuller | but they should be using the select syntax |
| 00:28.23 | Gnarfoz | it returns the resolutions of my now secondary screen |
| 00:28.43 | Tuller | that returns whatever resolution you've seleced |
| 00:28.50 | Tuller | what are you trying to do? |
| 00:28.52 | Gnarfoz | which is 4:3 CRT, the new primary screen (set in windows), where the game is displayed, is 16:10 however |
| 00:29.35 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 00:29.46 | Gnarfoz | the string.match snippet returns 1024 and 768 |
| 00:30.17 | Gnarfoz | the select one returns 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1600x1200 |
| 00:30.26 | Gnarfoz | (4:3, 5:4, 4:3) |
| 00:30.41 | Tuller | that's because of how select works |
| 00:30.54 | Tuller | the first result is your resolution, the second are any remaining items in the list of return values |
| 00:31.01 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 00:31.10 | batrick | you can fix that by putting a set of parenthesis around select |
| 00:31.17 | Tuller | right |
| 00:31.27 | Tuller | which is technically more efficient, i think? |
| 00:32.01 | batrick | doesn't really matter |
| 00:32.14 | Gnarfoz | more interesting to me: is this normal? :> |
| 00:34.07 | Tuller | what is normal? :) |
| 00:34.17 | Tuller | is what normal, that is |
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| 00:35.07 | Gnarfoz | wow returning 1024x768 when it's run as windowed-maximized on a 1680x1050 screen |
| 00:35.31 | Gnarfoz | I could probably take a ruler and measure if a square is actually square, because it certainly looks like it isn't :D |
| 00:37.05 | Gnarfoz | I should probably try disabling the second screen and running wow under those circumstances |
| 00:38.07 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4068015480&sid=1#1 - well done! |
| 00:38.39 | Tuller | in theory its normal, but i'm not sure |
| 00:38.49 | kd3 | I'm still "WTF"ing at that thread... has the hunter never seen a druid in a shifted form before? |
| 00:39.06 | Tuller | the resolution is likely 1024x768 but stretched when maximized |
| 00:39.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah.. it's... haha |
| 00:40.12 | Gnarfoz | Tuller: hm. weird. I'm turning of the second screen for testing now |
| 00:41.59 | Gnarfoz | actually |
| 00:42.09 | Gnarfoz | I closed x-chat because I missed the start button ;D |
| 00:47.14 | bleeter | kd3: lvl 8 hunter, probably a new player ;) |
| 00:47.24 | Tuller | hey Thunder_Child you ever get a chance to try out the new combuctor? |
| 00:50.27 | Duman | oh, did you make some changes to combuctor? |
| 00:50.42 | Tuller | last weekish, yes |
| 00:50.50 | Duman | ahh, I'll take a peek again when I get home |
| 00:50.50 | Gnarfoz | ah, now it's working |
| 00:50.58 | Gnarfoz | SET widescreen "1" |
| 00:51.01 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 00:51.18 | Tuller | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8113-Combuctor.html :) |
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| 00:51.39 | Tuller | the bottom tabs basically now change by what side filter you're on |
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| 00:57.07 | Kaso | Woah when did wowi go all web 2.0y |
| 00:58.02 | Tuller | when the gnomes came... |
| 00:58.29 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:30] <@Shirik> >>> math.sin(math.pi/3) |
| 00:58.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Shirik|AFK |
| 00:58.33 | purl | crushes Shirik|AFK with a full height scsi disk |
| 00:58.33 | bleeter | kd3: omg, I'm a random alt too! |
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| 00:58.40 | kd3 | lol |
| 00:58.40 | Shirik|Ecole | Installer has finished install driver. Please connect serial cable. |
| 00:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | you highlighted me you bastard :( |
| 00:58.55 | Shirik|Ecole | You think they could at least have someone proofread it that knows english |
| 01:02.14 | reqol | would a few of you, granted you have the time, show me how you would create a function that calculated the fibonacci sequence up to the Nth time, where N is taken as an argument |
| 01:02.20 | reqol | just want to compare :) |
| 01:02.52 | Lunessa | So, CompSci project sue this week? |
| 01:03.00 | Lunessa | er, due. |
| 01:03.06 | Duman | haha |
| 01:03.17 | reqol | no |
| 01:03.25 | reqol | I don't take CS |
| 01:03.40 | reqol | I can assure you this is not for homework, purely out of interest :) |
| 01:04.54 | batrick | write it with tail recursion reqol |
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| 01:05.15 | Shirik|Ecole | Good, CS is evil |
| 01:05.42 | reqol | batrick: I did, I'd post my version but I'm sure you would all recoil with pure disgust |
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| 01:06.55 | reqol | s/with/in/ |
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| 01:08.32 | MentalPower | reqol: theres one in PiL |
| 01:08.32 | MentalPower | ~pil |
| 01:08.32 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 01:08.41 | MentalPower | first few pages IIRC |
| 01:08.52 | MentalPower | or is it the factorial function, dunno |
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| 01:09.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 01:09.18 | sag_ich_nicht | splitz |
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| 01:12.57 | Shirik|Ecole | why do people think that just because something has worked for a long time, it can't POSSIBLY be the cause of a problem |
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| 01:13.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole: I want a shirt with that question. |
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| 01:14.24 | reqol | MentalPower: believe it's a factorial function |
| 01:14.35 | reqol | i'll check, momentarily |
| 01:14.42 | Lunessa | netsplit? |
| 01:15.00 | MentalPower | same basic idea |
| 01:15.53 | Duman | ahh, fibonacci |
| 01:16.01 | Duman | you can just do it "simply" with a loop :-P |
| 01:16.18 | Duman | (the first element will be an "exception" case) |
| 01:18.08 | Kaso | Shirik|Ecole, because of inductive logic, one of the main ways humans develop understanding about the world |
| 01:18.59 | Duman | quickhack perl 1-liner: http://pastey.net/81186 |
| 01:20.08 | Duman | actually you can pull the first element in, wtf am I smoking |
| 01:20.27 | Duman | drugs are bad, mmkay |
| 01:21.33 | Duman | (edited the pastey ;)) |
| 01:22.52 | Lunessa | Shirik|Ecole: Ever read the instructions on a chopsticks package? |
| 01:22.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone here use RXTX library? |
| 01:23.01 | Shirik|Ecole | Lunessa: instructions? o.o |
| 01:23.24 | Lunessa | "Please to enjoying your nice Chinese food with chopsticks" |
| 01:24.56 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 01:26.22 | reqol | Duman: perl looks like chicken scratch to me : ( |
| 01:27.55 | Lunessa | ... no more screenshots on WowI? |
| 01:28.59 | KarlKFI | there are ss's on my addon |
| 01:30.00 | Cairenn | there are ss's |
| 01:30.09 | Duman | reqol what language do you want |
| 01:30.16 | Duman | or I can decompose it into pseudocode |
| 01:31.10 | Lunessa | I was just checking out Sartrina's Buff bars... and ... no screenies. |
| 01:31.13 | reqol | lua, if you do'nt mind |
| 01:31.45 | Kaso | I notice that md5 sums have been added for files on wowi |
| 01:31.49 | Duman | reqol: can you parse this http://pastey.net/81187 ? :-) |
| 01:31.50 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/81188 is my version, what can I improve? |
| 01:32.16 | Kaso | surely you should have SHA-1 at least, now that MD5 has been proven to be easily collidable. |
| 01:32.30 | Duman | reqol: that's basically the same |
| 01:33.13 | reqol | it doesn't print the very first in the series :( |
| 01:33.19 | bleeter | Cairenn: what Kaso said (although SHA-1 is being 'replaced' by SHA-2) |
| 01:33.34 | reqol | print(a) instead of print(b) fixes that. |
| 01:33.34 | Kaso | i did say "at least" ;) |
| 01:33.58 | Shirik|Ecole | ok I'm blind, apparently. Someone want to look at my Java code to show me why I'm blind? |
| 01:34.09 | Duman | why are you passing a and b into the function? |
| 01:34.18 | Cairenn | "We've added some other things to the site and servers as well to help protect our users, but we don't need to tell the malicious programmers everything we've done to try to help thwart them. " |
| 01:34.19 | Duman | all you need is 'max' |
| 01:34.26 | reqol | duman: yeah, I changed that as well |
| 01:34.54 | bleeter | Cairenn: aye, you sneaky woman. i love the sneaks ;) |
| 01:35.01 | bleeter | *ahhh |
| 01:35.13 | Kaso | i dont understand the quote |
| 01:36.36 | Cairenn | fine - in simple terms - we've got both on the site, we're just only showing the md5 to the public |
| 01:37.03 | Cairenn | and the hashes are on a separate server |
| 01:37.37 | Cairenn | so they have to gain access to two servers or match two different hashes |
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| 01:38.07 | bleeter | Kaso: I read what Cairenn just confirmed, from between the lines |
| 01:38.18 | End | bleeter: liez! |
| 01:38.32 | JoshBorke | dolby-wowi: just fyi, i cannot reproduce the problem on my home machine |
| 01:38.36 | Kaso | i see |
| 01:38.41 | End | although, I wasn't reading anything at all |
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| 01:39.31 | Cairenn | we just really don't feel like making that info publicly known, for obvious reasons :p |
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| 01:40.42 | art3mis | wow i read that sentence totally wrong |
| 01:41.13 | art3mis | <Cairenn> we just really don't feel like making out in public, for obvious reasons :p |
| 01:41.19 | art3mis | ð JoshBorke hugs Cairenn |
| 01:41.20 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:42.22 | Kaso | i respect your wish to keep it quite, however you must remeber the old phrase, "Security through obscurity.. etc etc" |
| 01:42.49 | Cairenn | that isn't the case in this situation though |
| 01:43.31 | art3mis | ohohohoh tell me! |
| 01:43.39 | art3mis | i missed the scret |
| 01:43.40 | Cairenn | the security is in place, we just aren't providing the malicious coders with all the information on what they need to counter |
| 01:43.41 | JoshBorke | obscurity is still good |
| 01:43.50 | art3mis | oh that |
| 01:44.00 | Antiarc | Obscurity is good, it's just not good as the ONLY check in place |
| 01:44.10 | art3mis | Antiarc: no way its eprfect |
| 01:44.10 | JoshBorke | exactly |
| 01:44.15 | Cairenn | that isn't security through obscurity |
| 01:44.19 | art3mis | if only one person knows its foolproof! |
| 01:44.37 | bleeter | make something foolproof, and some fool will break it! :P |
| 01:44.39 | Shirik|Ecole | We actually have gnomes watching every time someone connects to the server, they perform magic on the download; the zip explodes if it has been tampered with |
| 01:44.42 | art3mis | except if that person then decides that extortion sounds so much cooler in person |
| 01:44.43 | Antiarc | Security through obscurity + security through implementation > security through implementation > security through obscurity |
| 01:44.50 | Shirik|Ecole | the gnome explodes too but we're better off with less gnomes anyway |
| 01:45.02 | Cairenn | Antiarc: yup, precisely |
| 01:45.09 | bleeter | I still have visions of lots of exploding Hortus's |
| 01:45.14 | art3mis | Shirik|Ecole: if thats the defence there must have been many virii during the move ;P |
| 01:45.18 | art3mis | defense |
| 01:45.32 | Shirik|Ecole | No I just actually took it upon myself to blow most of them up |
| 01:45.35 | Shirik|Ecole | since I hate gnomes |
| 01:45.52 | art3mis | pervert |
| 01:45.58 | art3mis | oh |
| 01:46.01 | art3mis | them UP |
| 01:46.09 | art3mis | okay thats a totally different meaning |
| 01:46.09 | JoshBorke | wow, could teh camera work in bourne ultimatum be any shakey? |
| 01:46.24 | art3mis | JoshBorke: everyone really liked resident evil 2 ;P |
| 01:46.26 | JoshBorke | s/shakey/shakier/ |
| 01:46.42 | art3mis | if you film things close up you dont have to coreograph them properly |
| 01:46.58 | JoshBorke | i liked re: 2, boobies... |
| 01:47.13 | art3mis | ive liked all the re's |
| 01:47.19 | art3mis | but then i loved the games |
| 01:47.24 | art3mis | so im kind of biased |
| 01:47.31 | art3mis | oh ad leeloo is uber sexy |
| 01:47.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm a gd idiot |
| 01:48.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I've spent the last 3 hours trying to debug this code, figuring out why serial data is not being received |
| 01:48.06 | bleeter | oO BOOBIES???!! WHERE!?! |
| 01:48.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Then I went back to my main() function and found... all it has is System.out.println("OK!"); |
| 01:48.22 | art3mis | and the cable wasnt plugged in? |
| 01:48.27 | Shirik|Ecole | and returns |
| 01:48.32 | bleeter | roflz |
| 01:48.33 | art3mis | oh thats even funnier |
| 01:48.34 | bleeter | ~lart Shirik|Ecole |
| 01:48.34 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays Shirik|Ecole in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 01:48.46 | art3mis | hah thats a great alrt |
| 01:48.48 | art3mis | lart |
| 01:49.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I was wondering why my error message didn't match what I wrote |
| 01:54.15 | art3mis | boobies yay \o/ |
| 01:54.32 | art3mis | http://komap.net.ru/uploads/posts/thumbs/1176564563_zhanna_friske_8.jpg <-- sfw and the main reason to ernt and watch Daywatch |
| 01:58.52 | batrick | reqol: ping |
| 01:59.38 | KarlKFI | anyone know if Morganti hangs out in here or another irc chan? |
| 02:00.23 | art3mis | he said he never wants to ehar from you ever! |
| 02:00.51 | KarlKFI | tell him his buff bars are polluting my taint log |
| 02:01.12 | art3mis | his buff bars are touching your taint, got it |
| 02:01.28 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, I love this bot |
| 02:01.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I found out problem #2 is that System.out.println() deadlocks the code |
| 02:01.58 | Shirik|Ecole | why, I'm not quite sure, but it does. You have to use IntelliBrain.getLcdDisplay().println(1, s) |
| 02:04.59 | reqol | batrick: ...what? |
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| 02:08.14 | Shirik|Ecole | reqol: The correct response is "pong" |
| 02:09.48 | Cairenn | so very wrong: http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=6AXPnH0C9UA |
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| 02:11.26 | batrick | --> function fib(N, n, a, b) if not n then n, a, b = 0, 0, 1; end local sum; if n == N then return a else return fib(N, n + 1, b, a + b) end end |
| 02:11.30 | batrick | reqol: ^ |
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| 02:13.22 | batrick | should be pretty fast to |
| 02:13.29 | batrick | --> fib(20) |
| 02:13.29 | batbot | batrick: > 6765 |
| 02:13.45 | Tuller | unleash the power of the metatable |
| 02:13.59 | batrick | no u |
| 02:14.27 | batrick | --> fib(1000) |
| 02:14.28 | batbot | batrick: > 4.3466557686937e+208 |
| 02:14.32 | batrick | :D |
| 02:15.05 | Tuller | fibs = { 1, 1 } -- Initial values for fibs[1] and fibs[2]. |
| 02:15.07 | Tuller | setmetatable(fibs, { -- Give fibs some magic behavior. |
| 02:15.08 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.10 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.11 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.13 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.13 | Thrae|Work | --> print( string.format("%.10000d", math.pi) ) |
| 02:15.13 | batbot | Thrae|Work: > ./sandbox.lua:52: invalid format (width or precision too long) |
| 02:15.14 | Tuller | }) |
| 02:15.16 | Tuller | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_%28programming_language%29 |
| 02:16.12 | batrick | haha that's pretty cool |
| 02:16.28 | batrick | recursion will be faster tho unless you are going to reuse values :) |
| 02:17.31 | Thrae|Work | batrick: That is using recursion |
| 02:17.46 | batrick | in a way, but the index calls are expensive |
| 02:18.23 | batrick | plus that will overflow the stack if you ask for a large value |
| 02:18.56 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't get it |
| 02:19.03 | batrick | --> fibs = {1,1} setmetatable(fibs, {__index=function(name,n) name[n] = name[n-1]+name[n-2] return name[n] end}) |
| 02:19.08 | batrick | --> fibs[1000] |
| 02:19.08 | batbot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: C stack overflow |
| 02:19.15 | batrick | --> fibs(1000) |
| 02:19.15 | Thrae|Work | Stacks are meant to be overflowed |
| 02:19.16 | batbot | batrick: > [string "return fibs(1000)"]:1: attempt to call global 'fibs' (a table value) |
| 02:19.16 | Shirik|Ecole | Why is it that when you tell Windows something is locked up and to kill it, it takes 5 years to kill it |
| 02:19.22 | batrick | --> fib(1000) |
| 02:19.22 | batbot | batrick: > 4.3466557686937e+208 |
| 02:19.28 | batrick | see? :) |
| 02:19.46 | Thrae|Work | Shirik|Ecole: That's because the default for a kill process is the POSIX equivilent of 15, not 9 |
| 02:20.52 | Shirik|Ecole | you're joking right? |
| 02:20.59 | Shirik|Ecole | Like first, you implied that Windows is POSIX compliant |
| 02:21.24 | Shirik|Ecole | btw batrick that table is evil |
| 02:21.28 | Shirik|Ecole | it doesn't memoize anything! |
| 02:21.34 | batrick | ya |
| 02:21.51 | batrick | well |
| 02:21.56 | batrick | it does |
| 02:21.59 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wait it does |
| 02:22.02 | Shirik|Ecole | you just did it a strange way |
| 02:22.08 | batrick | i didn't come up with it |
| 02:22.15 | batrick | i'd never use it tbh, even though it's cool |
| 02:22.54 | Thrae|Work | Shirik|Ecole: It's not compliant, it just steals from it ;) XP and higher are all NT-based OSes. To "kill' a process, Windows first tells it to terminate, then if that request times out, then it just terminates it. |
| 02:23.27 | Shirik|Ecole | fibs = setmetatable({1,1}, {__index=function(t,n) rawset(t,n, name[n-1]+name[n-2]) return rawget(t,n) end, __newindex = function() error("GTFO"); end, __call = function(t,n) return t[n] end}) |
| 02:23.32 | Shirik|Ecole | --> fibs = setmetatable({1,1}, {__index=function(t,n) rawset(t,n, name[n-1]+name[n-2]) return rawget(t,n) end, __newindex = function() error("GTFO"); end, __call = function(t,n) return t[n] end}) |
| 02:23.39 | Shirik|Ecole | --> fibs(3) |
| 02:23.39 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > [string "0"]:1: attempt to index global 'name' (a nil value) |
| 02:23.50 | Shirik|Ecole | --> fibs = setmetatable({1,1}, {__index=function(t,n) rawset(t,n, t[n-1]+t[n-2]) return rawget(t,n) end, __newindex = function() error("GTFO"); end, __call = function(t,n) return t[n] end}) |
| 02:23.53 | Shirik|Ecole | --> fibs(3) |
| 02:23.53 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > 2 |
| 02:23.55 | Shirik|Ecole | there. |
| 02:23.58 | Thrae|Work | You can also terminate processes from the command line in XP, Vista, etc. with similiar results. The "kill" process in *nix also has "SIGTERM" and not "KILL" as its default action, hence the analogy. |
| 02:24.13 | batrick | --> goawayshirik = fib -- just in case |
| 02:24.29 | Shirik|Ecole | myfibs > yourfibs |
| 02:24.37 | Thrae|Work | OK, this is why Cide and cladhaire's Lua bots can no longer be found here |
| 02:24.55 | Shirik|Ecole | ~seen lua_bot |
| 02:24.58 | purl | lua_bot is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 33 messages. Is idling for 25m 43s, last said: 'Xinhuan: 195, 165, '. |
| 02:25.35 | Thrae|Work | My earlier statement was made under duress and cannot be held against me. |
| 02:25.45 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 02:25.47 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 02:25.51 | Xinhuan | ~lart Shirik|Ecole |
| 02:25.51 | purl | tries to shut Shirik|Ecole up |
| 02:26.01 | Shirik|Ecole | ~counterlart |
| 02:26.04 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 02:26.08 | Shirik|Ecole | ~whaleparry |
| 02:26.09 | Xinhuan | ~fail Shirik|Ecole |
| 02:26.09 | purl | Shirik|Ecole: Fail. |
| 02:26.13 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 02:26.23 | Xinhuan | i win |
| 02:26.33 | batrick | batbot: is shirik terribad? |
| 02:26.33 | batbot | batrick, Most likely. |
| 02:27.18 | batrick | ur method will still overflow the stack shirik |
| 02:27.25 | batrick | --> fibs(1000) |
| 02:27.25 | batbot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: C stack overflow |
| 02:27.29 | Shirik|Ecole | it will, I know |
| 02:27.35 | batrick | --> fibs(25) |
| 02:27.36 | batbot | batrick: > 75025 |
| 02:27.38 | Shirik|Ecole | ooh I know a way to fix it |
| 02:27.43 | batrick | no you don't |
| 02:27.47 | Shirik|Ecole | yes I do |
| 02:27.53 | batrick | do not |
| 02:28.02 | Shirik|Ecole | except, hm, it could be dangerous for batbot |
| 02:28.07 | Shirik|Ecole | But any other lua engine could handle it! |
| 02:28.27 | batrick | only if u pull that pcall shit |
| 02:28.30 | batrick | batbot is safe otherwise |
| 02:28.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I actually have a good use for it now! |
| 02:28.43 | Shirik|Ecole | pcall, if we fail, try a lower number then try again |
| 02:28.53 | batrick | now that will definitely be slow |
| 02:28.55 | Xinhuan | /boggle |
| 02:28.57 | Shirik|Ecole | it'll work! |
| 02:29.08 | Xinhuan | Shirik|Ecole is bored |
| 02:29.24 | batrick | my fib function > ur metatablez |
| 02:29.26 | Shirik|Ecole | admit it, it would work |
| 02:30.33 | batrick | i admit nothing |
| 02:31.01 | Xinhuan | batbot: is batrick terribad? |
| 02:31.01 | batbot | Xinhuan, It is certain. |
| 02:31.05 | Xinhuan | woo! |
| 02:32.09 | batrick | there is a better solution |
| 02:32.43 | batrick | and I don't know why you're using rawget/rawset |
| 02:33.06 | batrick | --> fibs = {1,1} setmetatable(fibs, {__index=function(name,n) name[n] = name[n-1]+name[n-2] return name[n] end}) |
| 02:33.13 | batrick | ugh |
| 02:33.29 | Xinhuan | how is that better |
| 02:33.40 | batrick | i was copying from earlier and it pasted somehow |
| 02:34.46 | batrick | eh there is no way i can think of to fix it |
| 02:34.48 | batrick | it's all bad |
| 02:35.05 | Xinhuan | i can "fix it" |
| 02:35.13 | Xinhuan | if you interchange the order |
| 02:35.14 | Xinhuan | from |
| 02:35.15 | Xinhuan | name[n-1]+name[n-2] |
| 02:35.19 | Xinhuan | to name[n-2]+name[n-1] |
| 02:35.27 | Xinhuan | you can calculate values twice as high |
| 02:35.30 | Xinhuan | before you run out of stack space |
| 02:35.32 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 02:35.35 | batrick | that's not fixing it... |
| 02:35.38 | batrick | :P |
| 02:35.42 | Xinhuan | fine! |
| 02:35.47 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.49 | JoshBorke | gd vlc |
| 02:35.50 | Xinhuan | but its a tweak that gives a better solution |
| 02:36.33 | Xinhuan | but i think you'll agree, it matters there ;D |
| 02:38.00 | |pez| | ... my guild needs a maturity rating >__0 |
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| 02:38.36 | Cairenn | evening Iriel |
| 02:38.44 | Iriel | hihi |
| 02:39.55 | Iriel | How's the post migration site behaving? |
| 02:40.16 | Thrae|Work | I just noticed the new site when looking for http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html |
| 02:40.40 | mikma | :) |
| 02:40.41 | Thrae|Work | Hmm, the "mibbit" client doesn't understand "/topic". |
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| 02:47.27 | Guillotine | Cairenn: like the new site look :) |
| 02:47.43 | Cairenn | thanks Guillotine :) |
| 02:49.55 | Guillotine | one suggestionm :) Under the different tops (e.g. Top Downloads) it used to show the number of times downloaded and under Top Ratings it showed the ratings. Any chance that could make a comeback? |
| 02:50.14 | Guillotine | sorry about the typos :( Still using TC's comp and I'm not used to the keyboard |
| 02:51.02 | Kody- | Oh Guillotine! Got your new computer? |
| 02:51.09 | Corrodias | i must reboot! |
| 02:51.31 | Cairenn | Guillotine: add it to the feedback thread, please? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=81761#post81761 just so it doesn't get forgotten |
| 02:51.41 | Cairenn | you know what it's like, so much feedback, stuff gets missed |
| 02:51.56 | Guillotine | Kody: nope :( Using a friend's. It comes saturday though :D |
| 02:52.04 | Guillotine | Cairenn: will do :) |
| 02:52.19 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 02:53.21 | Shirik|Ecole | oh I LOVE this error |
| 02:53.28 | Shirik|Ecole | Client.display = new DisplayManager(display); |
| 02:53.35 | Shirik|Ecole | *** Semantic Error: A candidate for type "DisplayManager" was found, but it is invalid and needs to be fixed before this type will successfully compile. |
| 02:53.52 | Shirik|Ecole | translation: "Your code is wrong. Fix it. No I won't tell you what's wrong." |
| 02:53.53 | batrick | here |
| 02:53.57 | batrick | --> fibs = {1,1} setmetatable(fibs,{__index=function(t,n) return t(n) end, __call=function(t,k) for i=#t+1,k do t[i] = t[i-1]+t[i-2] end return t[k] end}) |
| 02:54.01 | batrick | fixed it :) |
| 02:54.17 | Shirik|Ecole | fixed what, the pcall thing? |
| 02:54.21 | batrick | no |
| 02:54.27 | batrick | --> fibs(10000) |
| 02:54.27 | batbot | batrick: > inf |
| 02:54.31 | batrick | --> fibs(1000) |
| 02:54.32 | batbot | batrick: > 4.3466557686937e+208 |
| 02:54.34 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 02:54.35 | Shirik|Ecole | that's cheap |
| 02:54.37 | batrick | --> #fibs |
| 02:54.37 | batbot | batrick: > 10000 |
| 02:54.39 | Shirik|Ecole | oh ok |
| 02:55.12 | batrick | :) |
| 02:55.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyway, isn't that error awesome? |
| 02:55.32 | batrick | nah |
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| 02:58.42 | Xinhuan | wow you're still at it |
| 02:59.02 | batrick | nope i'm done |
| 02:59.08 | Xinhuan | by the way |
| 02:59.08 | batrick | and it's not like i have something better to do :) |
| 02:59.25 | Xinhuan | is there a method where i can find out whether the next recursive function call will overflow the stack, so i can avoid calling it? |
| 02:59.35 | batrick | no |
| 02:59.38 | Xinhuan | short of pcalling every recursion |
| 03:00.01 | batrick | use tail recursion |
| 03:00.15 | Xinhuan | yeah but in cases where its not possible, i'm wonder if there is a mechanism |
| 03:00.19 | Iriel | pcalling each recursion is silly because the pcall is a stack level |
| 03:00.33 | Xinhuan | i know that hehe, it reduces stack space by half |
| 03:00.35 | Iriel | the mechanism is generally 'dont write arbitrarily recursive algorithms' |
| 03:00.37 | Iriel | or... |
| 03:00.46 | Iriel | pcall the top, and store state so that an overflow is 'resumable' |
| 03:01.08 | Xinhuan | ah, storing the state would work |
| 03:01.27 | JoshBorke | why are you doing that xinhuan? bad Xinhuan, bad |
| 03:01.36 | Xinhuan | or better yet, implement simple loop, using a table to queue stuff |
| 03:01.44 | batrick | there are few cases where you can't turn a recursive function into a tail recursive one |
| 03:01.47 | Xinhuan | nothing JoshBorke, i was bored and came up with a theory question |
| 03:01.56 | batrick | i can't even really think of one |
| 03:01.59 | Xinhuan | there are batrick |
| 03:02.05 | batrick | example |
| 03:02.09 | Xinhuan | binary search is an example |
| 03:02.19 | Xinhuan | every recursion call, you call yourself twice |
| 03:02.26 | Xinhuan | one after the other |
| 03:02.36 | Xinhuan | to go down the left tree, then the right tree |
| 03:02.43 | Xinhuan | then return and traverse the remainder of the tree |
| 03:03.00 | Xinhuan | general tree traversal algorithms |
| 03:03.02 | Xinhuan | basically |
| 03:03.28 | batrick | in lua you can make that tail recursive |
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| 03:03.57 | Xinhuan | well technically every recursive function can be made into a loop if you used a table to queue calls |
| 03:04.50 | Shirik|Ecole | imho if you can pcall a function, you should be able to call the function without a pcall (assuming you're watching for stack overflows) |
| 03:05.06 | Shirik|Ecole | it would be ugly, but you only ever have to pcall the top, then step back and recall it. But this is very redundant |
| 03:07.10 | Iriel | start each hop with a pcall of a 2-deep dummy function |
| 03:07.28 | Xinhuan | was considering cases where you might to recurse so deep, but want to avoid stack overflow and use this as a condition for pruning |
| 03:07.32 | Iriel | slightly less messy version of Shirik's example |
| 03:07.35 | Xinhuan | just an idea |
| 03:08.01 | batrick | you can do binary search with tail recursion |
| 03:08.02 | Shirik|Ecole | display.print(0, lines[0][n[0]++]); |
| 03:08.04 | Shirik|Ecole | too much at once? |
| 03:08.24 | batrick | binary tree* |
| 03:08.39 | Xinhuan | how? |
| 03:08.42 | batrick | but then again either case doesn't matter |
| 03:09.25 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.48 | batrick | everytime you go look at a left child you add the parent to the vararg list |
| 03:12.33 | batrick | i'll pastey an example |
| 03:13.08 | Shirik|Ecole | Iriel: Have you ever seen this error before |
| 03:13.20 | Shirik|Ecole | *** Semantic Error: A candidate for type "DisplayManager" was found, but it is invalid and needs to be fixed before this type will successfully compile. |
| 03:13.24 | Shirik|Ecole | (Java) |
| 03:13.37 | Iriel | Interesting.. no. |
| 03:13.48 | Iriel | I wonder if you have bad .class files lying around, can you do a clean rebuild? |
| 03:14.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't think this incrementally builds. This IDE is horrible, unfortunately I have to use it. |
| 03:14.17 | Shirik|Ecole | It's in fact why I'm working on the project, because the IDE is horrible and they don't want to have to use it. |
| 03:14.30 | Shirik|Ecole | So they're having me write code to circumvent it |
| 03:14.50 | Iriel | Well, start with "Where is that class coming from" ? a .class of yours or a .jar of theirs? |
| 03:15.13 | Shirik|Ecole | it's mine |
| 03:16.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I wonder if I'm required to have everything in one class |
| 03:16.22 | Shirik|Ecole | that sounds stupid |
| 03:16.27 | Iriel | just try clearing all the .class files, in case. |
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| 03:17.12 | Shirik|Ecole | ok I found an inssue |
| 03:17.22 | Shirik|Ecole | I deleted the .class file... but my other one wasn't even there |
| 03:17.25 | Shirik|Ecole | as if it's not compiling the other class |
| 03:17.50 | Shirik|Ecole | no change to the errors though |
| 03:19.52 | Shirik|Ecole | lol, this ide is so horrible |
| 03:20.04 | Shirik|Ecole | it didn't add the class to the project when I went project->new class |
| 03:20.17 | Shirik|Ecole | in fact I haven't the slightest clue where it's saving this file right now |
| 03:21.00 | Shirik|Ecole | it's called RoboJDE |
| 03:21.06 | Shirik|Ecole | It's proprietary, for a specific device |
| 03:21.48 | batrick | Xinhuan: http://wowi.pastey.net/81193 |
| 03:22.33 | Iriel | Ah, I wonder if that means it has a proprietary compiler also |
| 03:22.39 | Shirik|Ecole | probably |
| 03:22.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm so close to not having to use it |
| 03:23.08 | Iriel | If you comment out references to the class does it compile? |
| 03:24.36 | Xinhuan | batrick, that adds an argument to the function arg list on every call |
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| 03:24.48 | batrick | so? |
| 03:24.50 | Xinhuan | it'll still throw an error when you reach 200 args |
| 03:24.55 | Xinhuan | that's the default arg limit |
| 03:25.28 | batrick | it'd take a really large tree to do that, and a recursive function would fail much sooner |
| 03:25.35 | Xinhuan | true |
| 03:25.41 | Xinhuan | but just saying it isn't infinite ;p |
| 03:25.47 | batrick | large tree == more than 200 in depth |
| 03:25.50 | Xinhuan | and it'll only go 200 lvls deep |
| 03:26.00 | batrick | come on... |
| 03:26.11 | batrick | how many trees are that deep |
| 03:26.12 | Thrae|Work | OK, that's annoying |
| 03:26.16 | batrick | that's rediculous |
| 03:26.17 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 1000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:26.36 | Thrae|Work | Dammit |
| 03:26.54 | Shirik|Ecole | oh awesome |
| 03:27.07 | MentalPower | --> return "test" |
| 03:27.07 | batbot | MentalPower: > test |
| 03:27.07 | Shirik|Ecole | Vector<String> Unexpected symbol ignored near '<' |
| 03:27.12 | Shirik|Ecole | so no generics either >.> |
| 03:27.20 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 1000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...)print(...) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:27.20 | batbot | MentalPower: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 |
| 03:27.45 | batrick | i limit 20 calls to print |
| 03:27.49 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 1000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...)print(select("#", ...), ...) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:27.49 | batbot | MentalPower: 1000 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 |
| 03:28.00 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: you sure? |
| 03:28.13 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 1000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...)print(select("#", ...)) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:28.14 | batbot | MentalPower: 1000 |
| 03:28.15 | Xinhuan | yep, look in the LIMITS.h or something |
| 03:28.20 | Xinhuan | its in there |
| 03:28.30 | Thrae|Work | unpack is evil. |
| 03:28.33 | Xinhuan | forgot the lua compile options filename |
| 03:28.45 | batrick | luaconf.h |
| 03:29.03 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: you're saying that I can only pass 200 args to a function right? |
| 03:29.08 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 03:29.16 | MentalPower | then how did the above run? |
| 03:29.19 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: ones that are over 2^200 elements large, obviously |
| 03:29.27 | Xinhuan | i don't quite know |
| 03:29.29 | batrick | srsly |
| 03:29.35 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {} for i=1, 1000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...)print(select("#", ...)) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:29.35 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 1000 |
| 03:29.41 | MentalPower | >>> local t = {} for i=1, 1000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...)print(select("#", ...)) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:29.45 | Shirik|Ecole | but it's ok |
| 03:29.49 | Xinhuan | maybe i remembered wrongly :) |
| 03:29.50 | MentalPower | cide's not here |
| 03:29.52 | Shirik|Ecole | because if you try to table.remove() an element from a table that big |
| 03:29.56 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't anyway |
| 03:30.03 | batrick | lol |
| 03:30.09 | batrick | this was for binary trees shirik :P |
| 03:30.18 | Shirik|Ecole | but you could store it in a table :) |
| 03:30.21 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 100000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...)print(select("#", ...), ...) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:30.21 | batbot | MentalPower: > ./sandbox.lua:269: stack overflow (table too big to unpack) |
| 03:30.23 | batrick | although the function for doing a binary search would be very similar |
| 03:30.26 | Shirik|Ecole | --> t = {1}; table.remove(2^32+1) |
| 03:30.26 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > ./sandbox.lua:62: bad argument #1 to 'v' (table expected, got number) |
| 03:30.28 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 10000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...)print(select("#", ...), ...) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:30.28 | batbot | MentalPower: 10000 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 |
| 03:30.37 | batrick | 20 CALLS TO PRINT |
| 03:30.38 | batrick | ONLY |
| 03:30.42 | batrick | use return |
| 03:30.43 | Shirik|Ecole | --> t = {1}; table.remove(t, 2^32+1); for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end |
| 03:30.45 | MentalPower | sorry |
| 03:30.47 | batrick | lol |
| 03:30.52 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 10000 do t[i]=i end function foo(...)print(select("#", ...)) end foo(unpack(t)) |
| 03:30.52 | batbot | MentalPower: 10000 |
| 03:30.57 | MentalPower | thats the one I wanted |
| 03:31.02 | Xinhuan | MentalPower: http://www.lua.org/source/5.0/src_llimits.h.html |
| 03:31.57 | batrick | man |
| 03:32.05 | batrick | my binary tree search function is so beautiful /tear |
| 03:32.24 | Xinhuan | #define MAXPARAMS 100 |
| 03:32.27 | Xinhuan | it says 100 |
| 03:32.42 | Xinhuan | so i dunno, unless its refering to something different from what i'm thinking |
| 03:32.43 | Iriel | Is that named parameters? |
| 03:32.45 | MentalPower | that I think is named params |
| 03:33.08 | Xinhuan | (...) style params could be unlimited, i dont think i know that one |
| 03:36.50 | batrick | ... are unlimited i think, it's limited only by the size of the Lua stack |
| 03:37.01 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 150 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) local p = table.concat(t, ", ") loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end") foo() |
| 03:37.01 | batbot | MentalPower: > [string "0"]:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 03:37.17 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 150 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end") foo() |
| 03:37.18 | batbot | MentalPower: 0 |
| 03:37.24 | batrick | --> function test(...) return test(1,...) end test(1) |
| 03:37.29 | batbot | batrick: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 03:37.35 | batrick | eh |
| 03:38.01 | MentalPower | where the hell did that 0 come from... |
| 03:38.17 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 150 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") print(p)--loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end") foo() |
| 03:38.17 | batbot | MentalPower: a, aa, aaa, aaaa, aaaaa, aaaaaa, aaaaaaa, aaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, aaaaaaaaa...(tldr) |
| 03:38.35 | batrick | man that's still running |
| 03:38.45 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 150 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end") print(foo) |
| 03:38.45 | batbot | MentalPower: nil |
| 03:38.54 | MentalPower | what's still running? |
| 03:39.19 | batrick | ... are unlimited |
| 03:39.20 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 150 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end")() print(foo) |
| 03:39.20 | batbot | MentalPower: function: 0x80fbef0 |
| 03:39.29 | batrick | only limited by the size of the lua stack |
| 03:39.41 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 150 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end")() foo() |
| 03:39.41 | batbot | MentalPower: I Live! |
| 03:40.24 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 150 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end")() local q = {} for i=1, 10000 do q[i]=i end foo(unpack(q)) |
| 03:40.24 | batbot | MentalPower: I Live! |
| 03:40.49 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 150 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") print(#p) loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end")() local q = {} for i=1, 10000 do q[i]=i end foo(unpack(q)) |
| 03:40.49 | batbot | MentalPower: 11623 I Live! |
| 03:40.59 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: ^^^^ |
| 03:41.11 | MentalPower | batrick: did you change those numbers in limits.h? |
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| 03:42.16 | batrick | i did not |
| 03:42.21 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 1000 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") print(#p) loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end")() local q = {} for i=1, 10000 do q[i]=i end foo(unpack(q)) |
| 03:42.21 | batbot | MentalPower: > [string "0"]:1: attempt to call a nil value |
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| 03:42.47 | batrick | i've been running function test(...) return test(1,...) end test(1) for a while now |
| 03:42.53 | batrick | it's up to 80000 args |
| 03:42.59 | MentalPower | --> local t = {} for i=1, 1000 do t[i]=("a"):rep(i) end local p = table.concat(t, ", ") print(#p) local a,b=loadstring("function foo("..p..") print('I Live!') end") print(a,b)-- local q = {} for i=1, 10000 do q[i]=i end foo(unpack(q)) |
| 03:42.59 | batbot | MentalPower: 502498 nil [string "function foo(a, aa, aaa, aaaa, aaaaa, aaaaaa, aaaaaaa, aaaaaaaa..."]:1: function at line 1 has more than 200 local variables |
| 03:43.03 | MentalPower | there |
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| 03:46.54 | Shirik|Ecole | hm "LicenseError: Thread Limit" |
| 03:47.10 | Shirik|Ecole | Apparently I'm only allowed to have one thread at a time unless I pay $39? That's absurd :P |
| 03:47.24 | MentalPower | wow... |
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| 03:49.25 | Xinhuan | so pay up Shirik|Ecole :) |
| 03:49.27 | Lunessa | Wow. Way to gimp your product. |
| 03:52.13 | batrick | it's too bad you can't pass variable number of args to a C function |
| 03:52.31 | batrick | e.g. bsearch(blah, blah, ...) |
| 03:52.38 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: are you nuts? |
| 03:52.43 | MentalPower | you can... |
| 03:52.45 | batrick | no |
| 03:52.53 | MentalPower | how can print() work otherwise? |
| 03:52.55 | batrick | nonono |
| 03:52.57 | batrick | lol |
| 03:53.03 | Shirik|Ecole | printf(char* s) |
| 03:53.07 | Shirik|Ecole | printf(char* s, int n) |
| 03:53.11 | batrick | sigh |
| 03:53.12 | Shirik|Ecole | printf(char*s, float n) |
| 03:53.16 | Shirik|Ecole | they did a lot of overloading |
| 03:53.17 | batrick | you guys misinterpret me |
| 03:53.34 | JoshBorke | i understand you batrick |
| 03:53.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I think |
| 03:54.06 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick means int foo(...) { bar(...) } ? |
| 03:54.12 | batrick | you can't do this: int pass(int i, ...) { return pass(5, i, ...) } |
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| 03:55.46 | Shirik|Ecole | 55 classes, 35 objects, 1 thread, 1 native method |
| 03:55.50 | Shirik|Ecole | those are the limits |
| 03:56.04 | batrick | and you guys are using that IDE why? |
| 03:56.16 | Shirik|Ecole | Because it came with the bot |
| 03:56.22 | batrick | awesome |
| 03:56.30 | Shirik|Ecole | And it's the only way we're aware of to upload code to the bot |
| 03:56.49 | Shirik|Ecole | so what I'm doing is writing a library so that the bot becomes a "dumb bot" and you just send it serial bytecodes to tell it what to do |
| 03:56.51 | MentalPower | and the bot connects via? serial? |
| 03:57.05 | MentalPower | jtag? |
| 03:57.08 | Shirik|Ecole | then you can use whatever the hell you want |
| 03:57.32 | Shirik|Ecole | serial es |
| 03:57.55 | Shirik|Ecole | we're actually using this really cool wireless thing |
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| 03:58.08 | Shirik|Ecole | it's maybe 2 inches long, 1 inch wide, and connects to the serial port |
| 03:58.18 | Shirik|Ecole | you plug a usb thingy in your computer and you're done |
| 03:58.40 | Shirik|Ecole | but as far as Java's concerned, it's RS232 |
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| 04:04.11 | MentalPower | brb, restarting |
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| 04:09.16 | art3mis | lets hear it for jury riggin power supplies! |
| 04:09.31 | art3mis | appearantly the fan died in my old one like 2 weeks or so ago and started heating my case |
| 04:09.46 | art3mis | so i took it apart and tie wrapped a case fan into it |
| 04:09.50 | art3mis | and now it's all good |
| 04:10.21 | Shirik|Ecole | --> makeFPart = function(n) return n / (log(n) % 1) end return makeFPart(34) |
| 04:10.21 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > [string "0"]:1: attempt to call global 'log' (a nil value) |
| 04:10.25 | Shirik|Ecole | --> makeFPart = function(n) return n / (math.log(n) % 1) end return makeFPart(34) |
| 04:10.26 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > 64.594509675272 |
| 04:10.29 | Shirik|Ecole | wow that was wrong |
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| 04:10.59 | Shirik|Ecole | --> makeFPart = function(n) return n / (math.log10(n) % 1) end return makeFPart(34) |
| 04:10.59 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > 63.972434107479 |
| 04:11.01 | Shirik|Ecole | grr |
| 04:11.11 | Shirik|Ecole | oh whoopsie |
| 04:11.27 | Shirik|Ecole | --> makeFPart = function(n) return n / (math.log10(n)-(math.log10(n)%1)) end return makeFPart(34) |
| 04:11.27 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > 34 |
| 04:11.32 | Shirik|Ecole | I fail miserably |
| 04:11.39 | Shirik|Ecole | wait! |
| 04:11.59 | Shirik|Ecole | --> makeFPart = function(n) return n / 10^(1+(math.log10(n)-(math.log10(n)%1))) end return makeFPart(34) |
| 04:11.59 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > 0.34 |
| 04:12.02 | Shirik|Ecole | Win. |
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| 04:23.41 | JoshBorke | hrmph, the new wowi look is starting to grow on me |
| 04:23.57 | JoshBorke | Cairenn: do you get revenue just for teh ads showing up in browsers or do you need people to click also? |
| 04:24.11 | Cairenn | JoshBorke: I don't really know, to be honest |
| 04:24.19 | Cairenn | *I* don't get revenue at all :p |
| 04:24.23 | JoshBorke | ~lart Cairenn |
| 04:24.23 | purl | whacks Cairenn upside the head |
| 04:24.38 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 04:25.14 | batrick | ~hug Cairenn |
| 04:25.15 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Cairenn and suddenly hugs Cairenn tightly |
| 04:26.04 | Cairenn | rick* |
| 04:27.07 | batrick | :P |
| 04:27.22 | Cairenn | heh, sorry |
| 04:27.36 | batrick | lol it's ok |
| 04:27.57 | Cairenn | brb |
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| 04:29.15 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 04:29.39 | Corrodias | snap into a slim jim |
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| 04:34.48 | kd3 | ugh. damned if I do, damned if I don't. |
| 04:46.27 | KarlKFI | ? |
| 04:47.19 | Duman | I need to stop trying to argue w/ people on the forums |
| 04:50.30 | KarlKFI | kd3: cpu overheating? |
| 04:50.50 | kd3 | with wow idling it's at 66, gpu's at 71 |
| 04:51.17 | Duman | which vid card? |
| 04:51.19 | KarlKFI | i just got a http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=138 works well |
| 04:51.22 | kd3 | 8600gt |
| 04:51.26 | Duman | hmm |
| 04:52.25 | KarlKFI | http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=147 fits the 8600 but it's not out till feb |
| 04:52.33 | Duman | my GPU is at 76 and I'm not even doing anything ;) |
| 04:52.37 | Duman | (7950GT) |
| 04:52.57 | Duman | CPU is 33C tho |
| 04:53.17 | Duman | (athlon X2 4800+) |
| 04:54.10 | kd3 | I've got a core 2 quad Q6600 |
| 04:57.33 | Duman | ok, I'm done arguing that thread |
| 04:58.01 | Duman | I love how people are like "zomg the only reason we got a response to the vanish/stealth issue is because we spammed the fuck out of the bug forum" |
| 04:58.14 | Duman | yes, clearly B happened ONLY because you did A.. *facepalm* |
| 04:58.31 | kd3 | I sincerely hope Hortus banned the lot of them for 72 hours |
| 04:58.38 | Duman | he did |
| 04:58.54 | Duman | e.g. " I am back from my banning. " |
| 04:58.55 | Duman | heh |
| 04:59.07 | Duman | ( http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4071474405&sid=1&pageNo=5 ) |
| 05:01.24 | Duman | btw, someone else has that double-rot13 sig (slightly different from yours) |
| 05:01.29 | Duman | unless thta's another account of yours |
| 05:01.53 | kd3 | nope. I've only got one account |
| 05:02.45 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, I give up |
| 05:02.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I can only take so much of this IDE in one day |
| 05:03.06 | Shirik|Ecole | still, that's 6 hours work, enough money to make me happy for a day. |
| 05:03.16 | Shirik|Ecole | I got the LEDs to flash back and forth though! |
| 05:03.23 | Shirik|Ecole | and it says [PEND] No Data on the screen |
| 05:04.28 | reqol | could anyone show me somewhere (besides pil, their explanation confuses me ;_;) I could learn exactly what metatables are and how to utilize them |
| 05:04.42 | Shirik|Ecole | that is a huge question |
| 05:04.58 | reqol | I'm guessing I'm stuck with the pil, then? |
| 05:05.18 | Shirik|Ecole | in all honesty, I could write an entire book on metatables |
| 05:05.35 | reqol | O_O |
| 05:06.01 | Arrowmaster | well theres the manual |
| 05:06.10 | Arrowmaster | but that might not help much either |
| 05:06.30 | Arrowmaster | but it will tell you the different things you can do with metatables |
| 05:06.36 | batrick | metatables allow you to modify or add behavior to an object |
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| 05:15.59 | Shirik|Ecole | ROFL |
| 05:16.02 | Shirik|Ecole | looking at these fake 2.4 patch notes |
| 05:16.10 | Shirik|Ecole | "Mana burn now has a 6 second cooldown" dream on |
| 05:16.15 | Olison | heh |
| 05:16.20 | Shirik|Ecole | why do people post these things if they are so obviously fake |
| 05:16.24 | Shirik|Ecole | At least make it realistic |
| 05:16.29 | Shirik|Ecole | improved death coil? Come on. |
| 05:16.38 | Guill|AFK | lol. indeed |
| 05:16.59 | batrick | cooldown on lolance |
| 05:17.18 | Guill|AFK | the worst imo was making cyclone do 6000 damage over its duration, even if it DOES have a 15 sec cooldown |
| 05:17.30 | Guill|AFK | and then being able to remove that cooldown in balance |
| 05:17.31 | kd3 | I <3 fake patch notes written by people QQing about getting beat in PVP |
| 05:17.38 | MentalPower | anyone know of a decent LiveCD that has NTFS-3G, Samba and a good graphical file manager? |
| 05:18.02 | sacarasc | make one yourself |
| 05:18.19 | Shirik|Ecole | Rogues |
| 05:18.19 | Shirik|Ecole | - Rogues can now generate combo points on up to 3 targets at any one time. |
| 05:18.20 | Shirik|Ecole | hahahaha |
| 05:18.40 | MentalPower | why, theres like a million livecds out there, the world does not need another |
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| 05:18.50 | MentalPower | Shirik|Ecole: priceless |
| 05:19.53 | Shirik|Ecole | Okay I have to go |
| 05:20.04 | MentalPower | the ubuntu livecd is great, but its running like molasses on this PC (too little RAM 256MB) |
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| 05:47.27 | bleeter | hahaha very cute: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrvM17qBmV0 |
| 05:50.27 | Shirik | omg awesome |
| 05:50.33 | Shirik | pac man always pissed me off like that |
| 05:50.56 | Shirik | I have nightmares of my powerup wearing off a second too early |
| 05:51.58 | bleeter | heh |
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| 06:01.06 | Shirik | batrick: ping |
| 06:03.36 | batrick | pong |
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| 06:07.02 | Kaelten | hi |
| 06:07.04 | Kaelten | that hurt |
| 06:07.06 | Kaelten | :( |
| 06:07.29 | Shirik | AHAHA |
| 06:07.35 | Shirik | You know you've gotten too good at tohou |
| 06:07.35 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion diablot |
| 06:07.38 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Diablot, Level 70 Undead Warrior (10/5/46). 15914 HP; 16982 Armour; 706 AP; 149.200 Melee DPS; 13.05% melee crit; 37 melee hit; 335 defense; 20.50% dodge; 32.93% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1612 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2296cv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32svr3 ][ Updated: Thu Jan 24 01:15:53 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:07.46 | Shirik | when you're fighting a boss and you don't even know it's a boss until you get the spellcard bonus |
| 06:07.59 | MentalPower | !c us alleria kyro |
| 06:08.07 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Kyro, Level 70 Night Elf Druid: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! (Incomplete data. Character may be awaiting refresh on Armoury.) [[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yqao2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2u3xty ][ Updated: Thu Jan 24 01:16:22 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:08.09 | MentalPower | !c us alleria mentak |
| 06:08.10 | Cairenn | you seem to be having connection issues Kaelten :p |
| 06:08.21 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Mentak, Level 60 Human Priest (10/0/41). 3387 HP; 6321 Mana; 249 mana regen; 23 mp5; 39 spell crit; 148 +spell dmg; 321 +heal; 5.00% dodge; 14 shadow resist; 34 fire resist;[[ TBR: 755 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvjltp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qtcyo ][ Updated: Thu Jan 24 01:16:36 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:08.25 | Kaelten | ya I'm trying to force my router to give my laptop a certain ntework ip |
| 06:08.41 | Shirik | anyway hi Kaelten |
| 06:08.47 | MentalPower | !c us alleria kyro |
| 06:08.48 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Kyro, Level 70 Night Elf Druid: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! (Incomplete data. Character may be awaiting refresh on Armoury.) [[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yqao2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2u3xty ][ Updated: Thu Jan 24 01:16:22 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:08.58 | Kaelten | ello |
| 06:09.01 | Tem|Work | Kaelten, use a static address? |
| 06:09.10 | Kaelten | I've treid |
| 06:09.12 | Kaelten | tried |
| 06:09.17 | Kaelten | and while I'm on the web like that |
| 06:09.24 | Kaelten | according to the macboox |
| 06:09.25 | Kaelten | k |
| 06:09.35 | Kaelten | the router still thinks I'm at a different ip |
| 06:12.56 | bleeter | wow... just... *WOW* http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/24/2145289.htm |
| 06:14.56 | |Jelly| | wow |
| 06:14.58 | bleeter | short version: teen takes on donor's immune system, blood type and bone marrow stem cells have changed to that of the donor |
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| 06:21.03 | reqol | that's pretty amazing |
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| 06:34.08 | bleeter | Duman: that hepatits person just don't know when the STFU & GTFO |
| 06:34.19 | bleeter | er.. hepatitis |
| 06:34.55 | Shirik | a cuppa? |
| 06:35.22 | Cairenn | tea |
| 06:35.35 | bleeter | ~dict cuppa |
| 06:36.10 | bleeter | Shirik: install dictd already! :P |
| 06:43.40 | Shizen | wow... invasive stem cells... |
| 06:45.37 | Shirik | ~wtf dictd |
| 06:45.42 | Shirik | ~dictd |
| 06:45.50 | Shirik | I think bleeter's making up words |
| 06:54.12 | Thunder_Child | ~seen tuller |
| 06:54.14 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4h 38m 58s ago, saying: 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_%28programming_language%29'. |
| 06:54.22 | Thunder_Child | bah! |
| 06:54.52 | bleeter | Shirik: man -s 8 dictd : dictd - a dictionary database server |
| 06:55.16 | Thunder_Child | would it end with deamon? |
| 06:55.25 | Shizen | daemon |
| 06:55.29 | Shizen | o/ |
| 06:55.44 | Thunder_Child | hmmm? |
| 06:55.51 | Shizen | o.O Shirik... |
| 06:55.54 | Shizen | you're playing Touhou ? |
| 06:55.57 | bleeter | dictd is a server for the Dictionary Server Protocol (DICT), a TCP transaction based query/response protocol that allows a client to access dictionary definitions from a set of natural language dictionary databases. |
| 06:56.05 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@mpdelbuono-PC ~ |
| 06:56.05 | Shirik | $ man -s 8 dictd |
| 06:56.05 | Shirik | No manual entry for dictd |
| 06:56.20 | Shirik | I think you made it up |
| 06:56.23 | Shizen | apt-get install dictd ? ;P |
| 06:56.24 | Shirik | Shizen: I do quite often |
| 06:56.27 | Shizen | oooh |
| 06:56.28 | Shizen | which one ? |
| 06:56.36 | Shirik | normally 7 but I just got 10 to work |
| 06:56.40 | Shizen | errr |
| 06:56.45 | Shizen | no throwing numbers at me |
| 06:56.48 | Shizen | tell me the title ;P |
| 06:56.57 | Shirik | (perfect cherry blossom and mountain of faith, respectivelY) |
| 06:56.59 | Shizen | ah |
| 06:57.05 | Shizen | Perfect Cherry Blossom <3 |
| 06:57.10 | Shirik | indeed |
| 06:57.15 | Shirik | there are some things I don't like about mountain of faith |
| 06:57.16 | Shizen | ZuN should have a new one out soon |
| 06:57.20 | Shirik | but there's some cool things too |
| 06:57.27 | Shirik | like no bomb counter anymore |
| 06:57.49 | Shirik | your bomb store is related to your power |
| 06:58.08 | Shirik | power maxes at 5.0, each bomb takes 1 power (thus dropping your power as well). Bombs also seem to be less effective though =( |
| 06:59.02 | Shizen | man... I remember when I first saw Highly Responsive To Prayers |
| 06:59.07 | Shizen | I was like "WTF is this game :O" |
| 07:04.49 | Shirik | I have one big problem |
| 07:05.00 | Shirik | I try to conserve my spell cards too much |
| 07:05.12 | Shizen | meh |
| 07:05.15 | Shirik | I know "it's better to use a bomb then to use a life" but for some reason I just don't do it |
| 07:05.16 | Shizen | blow em all up |
| 07:05.37 | Shizen | unless you're the type that stares at them and goes 'oooo pretty' ;P |
| 07:05.43 | Shirik | lol no |
| 07:05.47 | Shizen | hehe |
| 07:05.55 | Shirik | though it is pretty |
| 07:06.13 | Shirik | I kinda get over than when I realize "holy crap those things are shooting at me" |
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| 07:06.51 | Shizen | no no no |
| 07:06.59 | Shizen | 'these things are throwing pretty bullets at me' |
| 07:07.33 | Shizen | it's a pattern shooter game afterall |
| 07:08.01 | Shirik | yes |
| 07:08.04 | Shirik | but I still want to win >< |
| 07:08.13 | Shizen | okay... I'm silly |
| 07:08.18 | Shizen | MoneyFrame: ... |
| 07:09.54 | Shizen | ewww getglobal |
| 07:10.10 | bleeter | kd3: we'll see.. I reported them for spamming what with their useless reply to me |
| 07:10.40 | bleeter | you'd think with all the QQ out there, someone would've TX'd their rogue to a restarted realm merely to test this |
| 07:11.39 | kd3 | whu, they already apply the hotfix? |
| 07:12.13 | Shizen | what 'this' are we testing ? |
| 07:12.18 | Shizen | <-- rogue |
| 07:12.30 | Shizen | oh, vanish thing ? |
| 07:12.34 | kd3 | vanish/stealth breaking after 5s |
| 07:13.02 | bleeter | kd3: yeah, they applied the hotfix but it might take a realm restart for it to start working |
| 07:13.31 | bleeter | kd3: hence, imo, the thread has now turned into a 'lf a rogue on a restarted realm to confirm' rather than bitching about the leadup to the hotfix being applied |
| 07:13.41 | kd3 | ah, there it is. wonder why wowblues didn't pick up on that post |
| 07:13.42 | Shizen | hrmm |
| 07:13.46 | Shirik | wtf did I just do? |
| 07:13.49 | Shirik | I hacked th10 or something |
| 07:13.49 | Shizen | link to post please |
| 07:14.00 | Shizen | btw... I haven't noticed this, seriously |
| 07:14.01 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4071474405&sid=1&pageNo=4#74 |
| 07:14.03 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4071474405&sid=1 |
| 07:14.04 | Shizen | I'm on PVP a lot |
| 07:14.06 | Shirik | I used a bomb right before a boss, and the boss immediately died when she showed up... |
| 07:14.17 | Shizen | lol Shirik |
| 07:14.32 | Shizen | it's not TH10 it's TP10 >_> |
| 07:14.43 | bleeter | fwiw, the bug report I'm currently intrigued about is MC screwing up Druid form, and can only be fixed by initiating logout procedure |
| 07:14.44 | Shirik | do I need to show you the folder it's installed in? |
| 07:15.07 | Shizen | heh |
| 07:15.40 | Shizen | disregard me |
| 07:18.27 | Shirik | what? I beat the game? That's it? |
| 07:18.44 | Shirik | ok, I guess that means it's bed time |
| 07:18.52 | Shizen | heh |
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| 07:18.56 | Shizen | g'night Shirik o/ |
| 07:19.06 | Shizen | go play Immaterial And Missing Power next time |
| 07:19.45 | Shirik | meh, I'm gonna make one run on phantasm mode of perfect cherry blossom before going to bed |
| 07:19.49 | Shirik | just to see how far I can get |
| 07:20.15 | Shizen | good luck :P |
| 07:20.26 | Shirik | I won't get far |
| 07:20.34 | Shirik | My record is 22% and I'm way too tired atm |
| 07:21.01 | MentalPower | gnight all |
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| 07:22.18 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Luminax (i=roo@149.190.111.218.trm01-home.tm.net.my) |
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| 07:25.48 | Shirik | 13.48% |
| 07:25.49 | Shirik | good enough |
| 07:25.58 | Luminax | ngeh ? |
| 07:26.03 | Luminax | stupid disconnection |
| 07:26.20 | Shizen | g'night o/ |
| 07:26.32 | Shirik|zZz | I'll probably be here for a few more hours |
| 07:26.38 | Thunder_Child | LIES!! |
| 07:29.54 | Shizen | the f...... |
| 07:30.07 | Shizen | why am I reinventing the wheel >< |
| 07:32.17 | Thunder_Child | do you want an answer? |
| 07:36.32 | Shirik|zZz | SO CHEAP |
| 07:36.39 | Shirik|zZz | she flew on top of me |
| 07:36.55 | Shirik|zZz | 25% I'll go to sleep now |
| 07:42.07 | cladhaire | damn.. my shoddy internet connection caused me to miss macheist |
| 07:43.05 | bleeter | :( |
| 07:43.22 | cladhaire | ah well, $49.99 unspent, that can't be a bad thing |
| 07:43.26 | cladhaire | until i need video capture :P |
| 07:43.31 | cladhaire | or photo editing :P |
| 07:45.29 | Shizen | hmmmm |
| 07:46.02 | Shizen | WoW UI tutorial is showing example with this:RegisterEvent... and MoneyFrame have a comment saying that's the 'old and ugly way' >_> |
| 07:46.19 | cladhaire | this is true. |
| 07:46.28 | Shizen | seems like it |
| 07:46.44 | Shizen | mind enlightening me on this 'new and exciting way' ? |
| 07:46.59 | Shirik|zZz | quite simple, really |
| 07:47.02 | Shirik|zZz | self:RegisterEvent() |
| 07:47.07 | Shizen | oh you're still around... |
| 07:47.11 | cladhaire | lol |
| 07:47.15 | cladhaire | he's disappointed that you're here |
| 07:47.17 | cladhaire | how cute :P |
| 07:47.23 | Shirik|zZz | =( |
| 07:47.23 | Shizen | well not really |
| 07:47.30 | Shizen | -[15:36:52]- <@Shirik|zZz> 25% I'll go to sleep now |
| 07:47.36 | Shizen | was hoping he's already asleep |
| 07:47.41 | Shirik|zZz | .... |
| 07:47.43 | Shizen | like... sleep is good, you know |
| 07:47.48 | cladhaire | we don't sleep |
| 07:47.49 | cladhaire | :P |
| 07:47.52 | Shizen | take it from one who always misses sleep |
| 07:48.06 | Shirik|zZz | I'm an engineer, I'm not allowed to sleep |
| 07:48.21 | Shizen | oh and I'm a what ? chopped goretusk ? lol |
| 07:48.44 | Shizen | well... I do wish I can forfeit sleep... but sometimes you just can't >_> |
| 07:48.46 | Shirik|zZz | I never made any comment about you needing to go to sleep :) |
| 07:48.54 | Shizen | heh |
| 07:48.59 | Shirik|zZz | Yes if it weren't for this stupid human body I wouldn't need sleep |
| 07:49.08 | Shizen | anyway |
| 07:49.08 | Shirik|zZz | Some day I'll fix that |
| 07:49.25 | Shizen | okay, self:RegisterEvent is the 'new and exciting way' ? |
| 07:49.36 | Shirik|zZz | assuming "self" exists, yes |
| 07:50.23 | Shizen | and how to make sure that "self" exist, or rather, what brings "self" into existence |
| 07:50.29 | Shirik|zZz | a few things |
| 07:50.32 | Shirik|zZz | If you're in XML, it's there. |
| 07:50.45 | Shizen | ah |
| 07:50.51 | Shizen | Frame ? |
| 07:50.57 | Shirik|zZz | If you're in Lua, you will have the name of the variable at hand, or you might be in an event script, in which case it should be there |
| 07:51.12 | Shirik|zZz | frame:SetScript(self, event, ...) |
| 07:51.12 | Shizen | mmmmm |
| 07:51.14 | Shirik|zZz | er |
| 07:51.27 | KarlKFI | woot. got defaulted my last 2 tank loots from ssc |
| 07:51.28 | Shirik|zZz | frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) end); |
| 07:51.34 | KarlKFI | finally full epics |
| 07:51.41 | Shizen | I see |
| 07:51.51 | Shirik|zZz | self is a local, this is a global |
| 07:51.54 | Shirik|zZz | globals are bad |
| 07:51.58 | Shirik|zZz | Like |
| 07:51.58 | KarlKFI | now i have full epic ret, holt and prot gear =D |
| 07:52.04 | KarlKFI | holy* |
| 07:52.05 | Shirik|zZz | every time you use a global to manipulate a frame, I shoot a kitten |
| 07:52.11 | Shirik|zZz | and then I stomp on its dead corpse |
| 07:52.16 | Shizen | okay so I assume, that only events registered in self:RegisterEvent can only be triggered on/manipulated in ? |
| 07:52.16 | Shirik|zZz | and then I feed it to some other kitten |
| 07:52.19 | Shirik|zZz | which I then shoot |
| 07:52.42 | Shirik|zZz | I'm not sure I understand that question |
| 07:53.07 | Shizen | w-ell...do you need to register every events you want to 'trigger' for OnEvent ? |
| 07:53.16 | Shirik|zZz | yes |
| 07:53.25 | Shirik|zZz | or register for all events, but that's probably a very bad idea |
| 07:53.46 | Shizen | meh I already have too many events as is |
| 07:53.55 | Shirik|zZz | trust me |
| 07:54.04 | Shirik|zZz | you probably haven't even scraped the surface of all of them |
| 07:54.27 | Shizen | I know |
| 07:54.34 | Shizen | DevTools have a lot >_> |
| 07:54.49 | Shirik|zZz | DevTools used the function I was hinting to earlier that would be a bad idea for you to use :P |
| 07:54.59 | Shirik|zZz | But yes, for DevTools it makes sense because you want to see every event |
| 07:55.00 | Shizen | btw... why are some functions like... say ... GetDenominationsFromCopper not documented ? |
| 07:55.05 | Shizen | or am I looking in the wrong place |
| 07:55.14 | Shirik|zZz | http://www.wowwiki.com/API |
| 07:55.46 | Shirik|zZz | If it's not there, it probably doesn't exist in the default UI. However, just because it's there doesn't mean it has any info on it. |
| 07:55.47 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|zZz on the other hand makes no sense |
| 07:56.01 | Shizen | errrr |
| 07:56.08 | Shizen | it's in MoneyFrame :o |
| 07:56.15 | Shirik|zZz | I won't say the documentation is absolutely phenomenal |
| 07:56.18 | Shirik|zZz | or that it's complete |
| 07:56.21 | Shirik|zZz | because it isn't |
| 07:56.26 | Shirik|zZz | but at least every function should be listed there |
| 07:56.37 | Shizen | WoW team should document all this >_> |
| 07:56.50 | Shirik|zZz | That would be a lot of work for them :P |
| 07:57.10 | Shizen | meh they should've done so when they integrate it into the core lol |
| 07:57.19 | Shizen | oh well |
| 07:57.36 | cladhaire | those are Lua functions |
| 07:57.41 | cladhaire | they dont' need to be documented |
| 07:57.47 | cladhaire | because we have the code |
| 07:57.53 | Shizen | mmmm |
| 07:57.59 | cladhaire | the C functions are all documented, because all we have is their names |
| 07:58.31 | Shizen | still digging through all their Luas to find a function that does what you want to do without writing your own function for it is... let's say.. a bit tedious |
| 07:58.48 | cladhaire | so write the documentation |
| 07:58.52 | cladhaire | I assure you, its even more tedious |
| 07:58.55 | bleeter | tedious is trying to keep API documentation up to date |
| 07:59.00 | cladhaire | having done it for the 1500 C API functions. |
| 07:59.01 | Shizen | true.... |
| 07:59.06 | Shirik|zZz | lol |
| 07:59.11 | Shirik|zZz | cladhaire has personal experience with how much work it is |
| 07:59.14 | kd3 | how is the book coming along, by the way? |
| 07:59.21 | cladhaire | its in production |
| 07:59.29 | bleeter | kd3 meant: GIEF BOOK NOW CLADZ! |
| 07:59.35 | bleeter | ;) :P |
| 07:59.39 | cladhaire | we'll get one more round of editing, once copy editors are done with it |
| 07:59.40 | Tem|Work | when does it come out? |
| 07:59.41 | Shirik|zZz | wtb signed copy |
| 07:59.42 | cladhaire | then it hits the presses |
| 07:59.45 | cladhaire | Tem|Work: april |
| 07:59.49 | Shizen | what book, again ? |
| 08:00.03 | Tem | NOT GOOD ENOUGH |
| 08:00.14 | Tem | ugiefbooknao |
| 08:00.17 | cladhaire | ~wowprogramming |
| 08:00.18 | purl | it has been said that wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
| 08:00.22 | bleeter | Shirik|zZz: signed copy ain't worth it unless there's [Sweat of Clad and Cog] aroma with it ;) |
| 08:00.26 | cladhaire | Tem: what do you want, you know i can get you any part of it. |
| 08:00.30 | kaelten_ | Woot go purl! thats the spirit! |
| 08:00.32 | Shizen | oooooh |
| 08:00.36 | Shizen | GIEV NAW ! |
| 08:00.51 | Tem | cladhaire, just poking at you because I'm procrastinating on my letter to the dean |
| 08:00.51 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 08:00.56 | cladhaire | :P |
| 08:00.58 | bleeter | bah, forgot Kaelten was involved, sorry mate |
| 08:01.00 | Kaelten | lol |
| 08:01.05 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 08:01.08 | kd3 | oh, those asses. "Price: $23.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25." |
| 08:01.16 | Kaelten | lol |
| 08:01.20 | Shirik|zZz | rofl |
| 08:01.22 | bleeter | *[Sweat of Clad, Cog and Kaelten] |
| 08:01.24 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:01.28 | Shirik|zZz | wait hang on |
| 08:01.34 | Kaelten | I'll call and ask them to raise the price |
| 08:01.38 | sacarasc | kd3: i've had that before |
| 08:01.40 | Shirik|zZz | so you pay the extra for sihpping and it goes over $25 |
| 08:01.46 | Shirik|zZz | therefore it should become free |
| 08:01.56 | Kaelten | er |
| 08:01.58 | Kaelten | right |
| 08:02.02 | Kaelten | lol |
| 08:02.11 | Kaelten | oh did you guys hear about amazon getting fined in france |
| 08:02.17 | Kaelten | for offering free shipping |
| 08:02.20 | kd3 | 10k euro a day, wasn't it? |
| 08:02.28 | Cairenn | why? |
| 08:02.30 | Kaelten | 10k or 1k can't remember |
| 08:02.50 | Kaelten | france has a law saying you can't discount a book more than 5% and they considered the free shipping to be part of that discount |
| 08:02.58 | Shirik|zZz | rofl |
| 08:03.03 | Shizen | hmmmm |
| 08:03.07 | Cairenn | huh |
| 08:03.07 | kd3 | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080115-amazons-free-shipping-costing-1000-per-day-in-france.html |
| 08:03.20 | Kaelten | yep thats the one |
| 08:03.20 | Shizen | so all these functions I'm deliberating to make might already be in the Blizzard default Luas eh... |
| 08:03.22 | Shirik|zZz | $1000/day doesn't seem like a lot |
| 08:03.26 | Shizen | hullo Cairenn |
| 08:03.32 | Cairenn | hi Shizen |
| 08:03.36 | Kaelten | amazon opted to pay instead of comply |
| 08:03.46 | Shirik|zZz | yeah |
| 08:03.48 | Shirik|zZz | I would too |
| 08:03.50 | cladhaire | Shizen: this is simple. |
| 08:03.51 | Shirik|zZz | they make enough money I'm sure |
| 08:03.53 | Kaelten | Shirik|zZz: 1k euro which is more |
| 08:03.56 | kd3 | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=1000+euro+in+USD&btnG=Google+Search |
| 08:03.57 | cladhaire | Shizen: with whatever you're writing |
| 08:03.59 | cladhaire | ask if the default UI does it |
| 08:04.02 | Shirik|zZz | they're about the same |
| 08:04.06 | cladhaire | if it does, find ane xample where, and then look at the code |
| 08:04.08 | cladhaire | its absurdly easy |
| 08:04.23 | Shizen | I shall do that |
| 08:04.27 | Kaelten | but in 30 days they will probably raise the fine |
| 08:04.31 | Kaelten | so that'll be interesting |
| 08:05.18 | Shirik|zZz | If France is smart they do it slowly |
| 08:05.28 | Shirik|zZz | maybe 500 euro, then review in 30 days |
| 08:05.33 | kd3 | "france"? "smart"? |
| 08:05.34 | Shirik|zZz | so they can make some nice money |
| 08:05.58 | Shirik|zZz | fermez la bouche, msr. trois. |
| 08:05.59 | Tem | Shirik|zZz, to a company and similarly, to a country, 80k euro is fucking nothing |
| 08:06.11 | Shirik|zZz | I agree |
| 08:06.17 | Tem | ohnoes, you took my allowance |
| 08:06.24 | Shirik|zZz | Okay so double it |
| 08:06.25 | Shirik|zZz | then double that |
| 08:06.33 | Shirik|zZz | Just don't suddenly make it "oh btw now it's 1mil/day" |
| 08:06.46 | Tem | hey guys, with the 80k we got from amazon, we could... um |
| 08:06.53 | Kaelten | throw a kegger? |
| 08:06.57 | Shirik|zZz | copyright the name "french fry!" |
| 08:07.00 | bleeter | buy some cheese |
| 08:07.07 | Tem | fry some frogs imo |
| 08:07.09 | Shirik|zZz | lol buy some cheese |
| 08:07.24 | Tem | hey! I got it |
| 08:07.25 | Kaelten | well at the current rate its 30k a month so 360k a year. |
| 08:07.26 | Tem | we could buy a house |
| 08:07.33 | Tem | a small one |
| 08:07.39 | Tem | a /really/ small one |
| 08:07.40 | bleeter | would barely get a shoebox for that price :P |
| 08:07.50 | Tem | oh! |
| 08:07.51 | Tem | I got it |
| 08:07.54 | Tem | let's buy some books |
| 08:07.55 | Kaelten | they could end up 1-2m by the end of the year though |
| 08:07.57 | Tem | ... from amazon |
| 08:08.15 | Tem | ... for the schools? |
| 08:08.23 | Kaelten | they have free shipping! |
| 08:08.47 | Tem | l |
| 08:09.24 | Tem | Dear X-Chat, why, when I pushed tab at "kae" did you give me the options "Kaelten KarlKFI kandoko kadrahil KaoS` Kazie " ? |
| 08:09.28 | Tem | Love, Tem |
| 08:09.51 | Kaelten | lol |
| 08:09.53 | Shirik|zZz | Dear Tem, |
| 08:09.56 | Shirik|zZz | Get a real IRC client |
| 08:09.59 | Shirik|zZz | like mIRC |
| 08:10.03 | Shirik|zZz | Love, Shirik |
| 08:10.06 | Shizen | rofl |
| 08:10.10 | Shirik|zZz | :D |
| 08:10.14 | Kaelten | um... wtf stop the crack |
| 08:10.20 | KarlKFI | isn't that what its sposed to give you? |
| 08:10.31 | Shirik|zZz | KarlKFI definitely does not start with kae |
| 08:10.34 | Shizen | xchat is not too bad though |
| 08:10.43 | Kaelten | I use colloquy and chatzilla |
| 08:10.53 | KarlKFI | Kaelten is the only one that matches exactly, so it drops the last letter and tries again |
| 08:11.03 | Tem | why? |
| 08:11.06 | Tem | that's retarded |
| 08:11.09 | KarlKFI | why not? |
| 08:11.19 | Tem | because I typed kae |
| 08:11.22 | Tem | don't assume I can't type |
| 08:11.24 | KarlKFI | why would you hit tab more than once? |
| 08:11.26 | Shirik|zZz | damn spammers |
| 08:11.32 | Tem | I didn't |
| 08:11.36 | Cairenn | :p |
| 08:14.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Srosh (n=Srosh@d019249.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 08:14.50 | Shirik|zZz | Tem: That's almost as bad as microsoft |
| 08:14.59 | Shirik|zZz | Microsoft always assumes that you're making a mistake |
| 08:15.03 | Tem | heh |
| 08:15.04 | Shizen | rofl |
| 08:15.16 | Shirik|zZz | typing up my SRS.... |
| 08:15.18 | Tem | Shirik|zZz, they also assume you're a music pirate when you buy from Zune |
| 08:15.21 | Shizen | Microsoft assumes that everyone's as addle minded as them |
| 08:15.25 | Shirik|zZz | void functiion() <-- autocaps void |
| 08:15.31 | Shirik|zZz | backspace backspace, fix void |
| 08:15.35 | Shirik|zZz | push space <-- autocaps void |
| 08:15.37 | Shizen | errrrr |
| 08:15.41 | Shizen | SRS ? |
| 08:15.47 | Shirik|zZz | um |
| 08:15.48 | Tem | software requirement sepc |
| 08:15.54 | Tem | s/sepc/spec/ |
| 08:15.57 | Shizen | O.O what are you coding in :o |
| 08:16.06 | Tem | s/sepc/specification/ |
| 08:16.10 | Shirik|zZz | think basically huge massive document with everything you could possibly want to know about the program |
| 08:16.15 | Shirik|zZz | before you even write a single line of code |
| 08:16.16 | Shizen | ah |
| 08:16.17 | Shizen | that |
| 08:16.20 | Shirik|zZz | I'm talking in the hundreds of pages |
| 08:16.26 | Tem | Shirik|zZz, are all your requirements measuable? |
| 08:16.55 | Shirik|zZz | Hm, what do you mean by "measurable" |
| 08:17.10 | Tem | The system must support 5 concurrent users |
| 08:17.13 | Tem | vs |
| 08:17.21 | Tem | The system must support a lot of concurrent users |
| 08:17.23 | Shirik|zZz | yup |
| 08:17.32 | Shirik|zZz | Very strict documentation :) |
| 08:18.08 | kd3 | huh... for those of you more familiar with the API than I am: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4187418727&sid=1 |
| 08:18.11 | Shirik|zZz | We have a really fun project this year |
| 08:18.18 | Shirik|zZz | automated program testing |
| 08:18.44 | bleeter | do items with +AP apply to druid feral AP? |
| 08:18.45 | Shirik|zZz | We're basically designing a program that will automatically determine if your program fits a contract based on this really nutso language (no, not like unit tests, it's far more) |
| 08:19.27 | Shirik|zZz | Lots of work ahead though, but I'm really looking forward to this |
| 08:20.06 | Tem | bleeter, why wouldn't they? |
| 08:20.20 | Tem | bleeter, +AP is a superset of the bonuses that give druid only AP |
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| 08:21.37 | Shirik|zZz | hahaha, our goals have been listed for the project too. I like this one. |
| 08:21.53 | Shirik|zZz | Measure 1: Percent of defects found before |
| 08:21.53 | Shirik|zZz | first compile |
| 08:21.54 | Shirik|zZz | 80% |
| 08:22.04 | Shirik|zZz | Somehow I don't think that's going to be satisfied |
| 08:23.42 | bleeter | Tem: that's what I figured... I've added the 'rating buster' mod, and was doing some state compare and noticed it didn't appear to take +AP into account. so, either I'm reading it wrong or the mod's wrong ;) |
| 08:24.37 | bleeter | er s/state/stats/ |
| 08:27.51 | Kalroth | bleeter: what class? |
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| 08:29.37 | Shirik|zZz | ok night for real |
| 08:31.00 | Shizen | night |
| 08:31.09 | |Jelly| | GOODNIGHT |
| 08:31.44 | bleeter | Kalroth: what class is a feral druid? |
| 08:31.54 | bleeter | Kalroth: oh, sorry, didn't notice you /join'd after I mentioned that |
| 08:32.06 | Kalroth | :p |
| 08:32.32 | bleeter | had to scroll up to see. I was so ready to beat you heavily with the lart stick ;) |
| 08:32.59 | Kalroth | :( |
| 08:33.07 | Shizen | lart stick ... |
| 08:33.10 | Shizen | it's the new cattle prod :3 |
| 08:33.15 | Kalroth | Sounds odd though, it works fine for me |
| 08:34.46 | bleeter | Kalroth: yeah, I think it might've been me misreading |
| 08:36.09 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 08:37.18 | Shirik|zZz | If I didn't have so many email accounts this would be so much easier |
| 08:37.26 | Shirik|zZz | wtf activities fair tomorrow? |
| 08:37.33 | Shizen | I understand |
| 08:38.06 | Shizen | "alright let's go to sleep now... oh wait *checks email* .... okay let's say goodnight to the channel again... *a half hour of chat ensues*" |
| 08:38.12 | Shizen | ^ what usually happens to me |
| 08:38.24 | Shirik|zZz | That's about what's happening right now |
| 08:38.28 | Shizen | heh |
| 08:38.28 | Shirik|zZz | and then someone will talk to me for 15 minutes |
| 08:38.35 | Shizen | like me ;P |
| 08:38.44 | Shizen | we're the same species |
| 08:39.13 | Shizen | I suggest you steel your resolve and crash yourself on the bed, like... now |
| 08:39.56 | Kalroth | What Shizen said, go to bed Shirik@"#¤&! |
| 08:40.29 | Shirik|zZz | @*# wha? |
| 08:41.05 | Shirik|zZz | Do you really have a ¤ key? |
| 08:41.06 | Shirik|zZz | I want one |
| 08:41.23 | Shizen | o.o |
| 08:41.25 | Shizen | I want one as well |
| 08:41.30 | Shizen | what's that funny comma ? |
| 08:41.40 | Shirik|zZz | , |
| 08:41.43 | Shizen | , |
| 08:41.44 | Shirik|zZz | it's the comma key? |
| 08:41.48 | Shizen | ours are not funny :( |
| 08:41.53 | Shirik|zZz | I don't see a difference |
| 08:42.11 | Shizen | well >< |
| 08:42.15 | Shizen | his is a 'funny comma key' |
| 08:42.21 | Shizen | ours is a 'normal comma key' |
| 08:42.35 | Shirik|zZz | ~whalenuke Fisker- |
| 08:42.35 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers. |
| 08:42.50 | Shizen | okay... I need to stop talking to you Shirik... go to sleep :3 |
| 08:43.03 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 08:44.54 | |Jelly| | Good night, Shirik. |
| 08:44.58 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 08:45.56 | Shirik|zZz | (02:25:32) -› @Shirik|AFK is now known as @Shirik|zZz |
| 08:46.01 | Shirik|zZz | only an hour and 20 minutes |
| 08:46.03 | Shirik|zZz | that's not too bad I guess |
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| 09:13.44 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 09:13.53 | |Jelly| | Night Cairenn! |
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| 09:27.27 | Duman | uh |
| 09:27.29 | Duman | what the fuck |
| 09:27.30 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4068016560&sid=1 |
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| 09:36.47 | bleeter | weeeeee |
| 09:37.28 | bleeter | Duman: sounds similar to being able to cast whilst swimming and pressing the X key |
| 09:38.05 | bleeter | though I haven't checked that in a while, it was certainly a 'feature' when X = swim downwards was introduced |
| 09:38.49 | Duman | hmm |
| 09:38.59 | Duman | not good, that's for sure :) |
| 09:39.31 | Duman | Altho I'm curious what it looks like to the observer... sometimes things don't appear the same to caster/others |
| 09:39.41 | bleeter | indeed |
| 09:41.22 | bleeter | Duman: tbh, I've never reported that one, as my mage is an engi and it's quite nice, whilst wearing deepdive helmet, to frost nova a target them swim away whilst casting frost bolt.. don't deny you'd think twice about reporting it :P |
| 09:41.38 | bleeter | now I've said all this, I guess I should retest soon and submit the report |
| 09:42.46 | Duman | oh, I know :) |
| 09:46.05 | bleeter | and when we're taliking a frost mage in that lake in Nagrand vs those water elementals which are immune to frost and I've gotta use fire bolts... ;) |
| 09:46.40 | bleeter | nothing more annoying than going for a khorium node to get wiped out by immune mobs, only to return and some *&^*^&'s 'stolen' the node hehe |
| 09:50.02 | Duman | haha |
| 09:55.24 | bleeter | later folksies |
| 09:56.57 | reqol | bye bleeter :D |
| 09:57.06 | reqol | just tested it myself, that's very strange |
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| 12:40.26 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/mpaa-officially-admits-mistakes-in-piracy-study/ |
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| 14:28.28 | art3mis | so quiet today |
| 14:28.34 | art3mis | im scared |
| 14:29.48 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: glasses, contacts, or neither? |
| 14:30.27 | Lopeppeppy | Glasses primarily, contacts sometimes, neither only when asleep. Why? |
| 14:30.44 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: same! |
| 14:30.47 | art3mis | heh peppy is like that chick from .Hack GU |
| 14:31.03 | malreth | Glasses makes you smarter: http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-01-24.gif |
| 14:31.30 | Lopeppeppy | I'm plenty-smart, that's true. |
| 14:31.43 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know .Hack GU, but if I'm there, they should be giving me some royalties. |
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| 14:34.29 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsqjxcFVMvY <-- Pi == peppy |
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| 14:35.37 | malreth | if the website wasn't all flash based, i'd link a picture of her costume |
| 14:37.57 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* I can't check out the video here at work, but i bookmarked it to look at when I'm home, art3mis. |
| 14:39.22 | malreth | it must be cold in her outfit |
| 14:39.56 | art3mis | http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9646/rebirthpidg6.jpg |
| 14:40.00 | art3mis | standalone pic ;P |
| 14:40.03 | Lopeppeppy | It usually is, I'm assuming it's skimpy spandex that doesn't cover anything? |
| 14:40.11 | malreth | no spandex |
| 14:40.22 | Lopeppeppy | My hair... is SO not pink and pigtails! *laugh* |
| 14:40.30 | malreth | more like straps of red leather |
| 14:40.50 | malreth | at least her hips are protected by armor *snort* |
| 14:41.03 | art3mis | heh thems are birthin' hips ;P |
| 14:41.28 | Lopeppeppy | I can like the curves, I'm not a night elf myself. |
| 14:41.31 | malreth | she does have a rather extreme w:h ratio |
| 14:41.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that part is anime all over. |
| 14:42.08 | art3mis | .hack is actually fun |
| 14:42.24 | art3mis | i noticed when i started playing it again that its all the people from the english anime shows |
| 14:43.10 | art3mis | like crisipin freeman(alucard) melissa fahn(ed and gaz) steve blum (spike) wendee lee (faye) |
| 14:43.34 | art3mis | quite few from inuyasha too |
| 14:43.48 | malreth | that's because there are only so many VAs in N.America |
| 14:43.54 | art3mis | yup |
| 14:44.20 | art3mis | it's rather fun as a game too cept i could do with more gameplay and less cut scenes ;P |
| 14:45.07 | art3mis | reminds me that i need to finish disgaea sometime too |
| 14:45.30 | malreth | i went to college with this one: http://imdb.com/name/nm1404109/ |
| 14:45.36 | malreth | Samantha Harte |
| 14:46.10 | malreth | when she talks, she literally sounds like an anime character |
| 14:46.12 | malreth | it's eerie |
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| 14:47.07 | art3mis | http://www.lizardbee.com/revamp/photo6.html <-- i have such a crush on this one ;P |
| 14:47.11 | malreth | she auditioned for A.D.V. films when they had a studio here in Austin and got picked up immediately |
| 14:47.12 | art3mis | she did bloodrayne |
| 14:48.37 | malreth | oh geez... she played Sana in Kodocha? |
| 14:48.44 | malreth | o_o |
| 14:48.50 | malreth | that's an insane role |
| 14:48.55 | art3mis | and shes a line producer for shin chan and the mom in shin chan ;P |
| 14:50.47 | malreth | i remember when Kodomo no Omocha was being fansubbed |
| 14:50.54 | malreth | no one would do it except for one group |
| 14:51.09 | malreth | Kodocha Anime... it's literally all they did |
| 14:51.22 | art3mis | i just love her voice in FMA and blood rayne |
| 14:51.36 | art3mis | the fact that shes exactly the ral person look i like is a bonus ;P |
| 14:51.39 | art3mis | real |
| 14:51.46 | malreth | Sana Kurata speaks so quickly and makes so many obscure references, that the group kept having their translators quit |
| 14:51.55 | art3mis | (liz dushku, jennifer love hewitt) |
| 14:51.58 | malreth | either that or they exploded like the drummer in Spinal Tap |
| 14:52.04 | art3mis | hah |
| 14:52.22 | malreth | there are times she speaks so fast that you don't have time to read the subs |
| 14:52.34 | malreth | and it's like 3 lines of text at a time |
| 14:53.08 | art3mis | hehe im a jerk |
| 14:53.25 | art3mis | im sitting at booty bay with bottom scanner running to steal faction transfers |
| 14:53.42 | art3mis | yay 1copper thorium stacks! |
| 14:53.58 | ralfWORK | bwahahahaah |
| 14:54.12 | malreth | that is rather jerk like... but i approve! |
| 14:56.06 | ralfWORK | guess I should try that some time! |
| 14:56.35 | ralfWORK | I wish I could find living ruby for less than damn 70g |
| 14:56.51 | Osstia | I wish I could sell my ribies that high |
| 14:57.04 | ralfWORK | I need 5 more |
| 14:57.12 | ralfWORK | don't even look at cut rubies |
| 14:57.20 | ralfWORK | even more goddamn money |
| 14:57.53 | ralfWORK | (thankfully we have someone in guild who can cut the gem I want) |
| 14:59.32 | ralfWORK | malreth: uhm... she was born in 1979 |
| 14:59.47 | malreth | ? |
| 14:59.55 | ralfWORK | but was in a 1972 tv show? |
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| 15:00.16 | ralfWORK | malreth: sammy harte |
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| 15:00.41 | malreth | yeah... Gatchaman is classic |
| 15:01.52 | malreth | it was released in japan in 72 but only recently was it translated and released in NA |
| 15:02.03 | ralfWORK | malreth: ahhh ok gotcha |
| 15:02.24 | art3mis | gatchaman is original astroboy isnt it? |
| 15:02.35 | malreth | no... astroboy is astroboy |
| 15:02.43 | art3mis | whats gatchaman? |
| 15:02.54 | art3mis | i know theres an english version |
| 15:02.59 | art3mis | with a name i'd know |
| 15:03.00 | malreth | an old sentai anime |
| 15:03.11 | malreth | the english version name is gatchaman |
| 15:03.32 | art3mis | ahhh battle of the planets |
| 15:03.36 | art3mis | thats what it is |
| 15:03.56 | art3mis | with Zoltar and G-Force! |
| 15:04.53 | Lopeppeppy | Planet of the Apes. In 20 seconds or less. |
| 15:04.55 | malreth | ah... that's like the Robotech of Gatchaman |
| 15:04.59 | Lopeppeppy | Where are we? |
| 15:05.05 | Lopeppeppy | Get off me you damn dirty apes! |
| 15:05.09 | Lopeppeppy | What did we do?!? |
| 15:05.13 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.15 | art3mis | Movies starring bunnies! |
| 15:05.31 | Lopeppeppy | "Night of the Lepus". Totally check it out, art3mis. |
| 15:05.42 | art3mis | malreth: no gatchaman was released in the US as battle of the planets originally |
| 15:05.51 | malreth | yes |
| 15:05.51 | art3mis | i just went and looked and remember watching that show |
| 15:06.02 | art3mis | nothing like robotech you heathen ;) |
| 15:06.23 | malreth | but they chopped and recut the show... admittedly not as much as Robotech was |
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| 15:07.06 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: wow nice cast list |
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| 15:07.17 | art3mis | <3 janet leigh |
| 15:07.38 | art3mis | robotech got annoying the second mai ling showed up |
| 15:08.09 | art3mis | i always wanted her to get killed or something (i think that was her name, the annoying chick that rick was hot for) |
| 15:08.21 | Lopeppeppy | I love the movie, art3mis, it's a hoot and the effects are sucky and the premise sucks and it's SO MUCH FUN! :P |
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| 15:08.47 | art3mis | oh i saw the best movie the other night |
| 15:08.59 | art3mis | it was one of those old classic rubber suit monster movies |
| 15:09.05 | Lopeppeppy | Heh. |
| 15:09.09 | art3mis | cant remember the name though but it was sooooooo bad |
| 15:09.11 | Lopeppeppy | With a rip in the rear end? |
| 15:09.24 | art3mis | they never showed its butt so im guessing yes |
| 15:10.41 | art3mis | guess ill have another coffee then wander to the office |
| 15:12.38 | Lopeppeppy | Ick. Office. |
| 15:12.42 | Lopeppeppy | Ick. Coffee. |
| 15:12.57 | haste | I wouldn't work without coffee |
| 15:13.15 | Lopeppeppy | I have Mountain Dew. |
| 15:18.32 | art3mis | i ahve tim hortons coffee |
| 15:18.34 | malreth | ~seen Lunessa |
| 15:18.36 | purl | lunessa <n=Lunessa@129.7.90.65> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 11h 29m 9s ago, saying: 'Wow. Way to gimp your product.'. |
| 15:18.36 | art3mis | its yummy |
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| 15:25.56 | ralfWORK | hahahaha best reason to AFK from an IM: |
| 15:25.56 | ralfWORK | Marlon |
| 15:25.56 | ralfWORK | 10:24 |
| 15:25.56 | ralfWORK | fire alarm brb, hopefully |
| 15:29.32 | art3mis | 1copper for formula greater stam boots |
| 15:29.34 | art3mis | whee |
| 15:29.58 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.03 | ralfWORK | wow nice |
| 15:30.04 | art3mis | best raid excuse |
| 15:30.23 | art3mis | bottom scanner is so much fun |
| 15:30.32 | art3mis | i can piss off a whole new breed of people ;P |
| 15:31.42 | malreth | it's funny when people complain on trade that their 1c cross-faction trade got sniped |
| 15:31.45 | art3mis | i really like my new ui layout |
| 15:31.53 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 15:32.08 | art3mis | they cant do anything about it too since you're using it for its purpose and they arent ;P |
| 15:32.36 | art3mis | oh appearantly new warden is catching autoit afk bots in av now |
| 15:32.48 | art3mis | thought that was kind of funny |
| 15:32.58 | malreth | that's why i do the opposite. i only transfer monies cross-faction. put a gray item up for 500g. then use the money to buy the item that i need |
| 15:33.18 | art3mis | id be careful about that |
| 15:33.32 | art3mis | its oe of the things they monitor now thanks to gold sellers doing the same thing in ah |
| 15:33.56 | malreth | and an investigation would show that it was a transfer between two characters on the same account |
| 15:34.11 | art3mis | you'd still get a nice happy flag ;P |
| 15:34.24 | malreth | meh. |
| 15:34.32 | art3mis | ya know whats even funnier about sitting in bootybay? |
| 15:34.43 | art3mis | im sitting behind the auctioneer boxes so no-one can actually see me either |
| 15:34.48 | malreth | saying "booty bay" out loud |
| 15:34.57 | malreth | that's a funny placename |
| 15:35.06 | art3mis | should be run byfemale ddrainos ;P |
| 15:35.31 | art3mis | when a girl walks by with an itty bitty waist and a blue tail in your face you get sprung! |
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| 15:41.08 | malreth | i'm almost done with my UI layout |
| 15:41.20 | art3mis | The MVP program is not to say that no one else is helpful, nor that MVPs are 100% helpful. But for the sake of the new player, asking a question, the MVP post means "This poster is likely telling you the truth with the intent of helping you." MVPs have no special knowledge, nor moderation powers. They quite simply just remember things said previously, or know where to look up answers, and are willing and able to do so. |
| 15:41.21 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:41.23 | phetips | malreth: what kind of UI layout? |
| 15:41.24 | malreth | just gotta hack out a pitbull layout that matches my aloft config |
| 15:41.28 | phetips | malreth: class specifik? |
| 15:41.34 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/newui.jpg |
| 15:41.35 | malreth | phetips: a simple clean interface |
| 15:41.46 | phetips | malreth: i see |
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| 15:41.51 | malreth | nothing class specific since i play multiple classes |
| 15:41.52 | phetips | malreth: sounds interesting.. need testers ^^? |
| 15:42.06 | malreth | no... it's my layout for me myself and i |
| 15:42.08 | malreth | :D |
| 15:42.13 | phetips | hehe allright cool ^^ |
| 15:42.25 | art3mis | i love trinity bars btw |
| 15:42.34 | phetips | does anyone have any tips regarding rogue UI? |
| 15:42.39 | phetips | pvp in particular |
| 15:42.41 | art3mis | particularly the in combat out of combat hidding/swapping |
| 15:43.18 | art3mis | read a book read a book read a mudda fsckin book |
| 15:43.33 | art3mis | ive got that song stuck in my head again |
| 15:43.34 | malreth | i'm thinking of writing a custom addon for my g15 buttons to learn me some secure templates |
| 15:43.55 | malreth | i've got a couple bartender3 bars configured for my g15 buttons |
| 15:44.00 | malreth | but i'm not really happy with them |
| 15:44.23 | art3mis | ive got my saitek layout like a keypad |
| 15:44.36 | art3mis | i cant stand playing on the keyboard keys i need limits dammit! |
| 15:44.37 | Josh_Borke | art3mis: where is that taken? |
| 15:44.54 | art3mis | Josh_Borke: that troll village on the border of darkshore that you see flying over |
| 15:44.57 | Josh_Borke | the no-no area of darkshore? |
| 15:44.59 | Josh_Borke | k, that's what i thought |
| 15:45.03 | Josh_Borke | i never knew they were dancing |
| 15:45.09 | art3mis | yeah its a big ol party |
| 15:45.10 | malreth | i want them to autohide unless i mouseover them but since there are 18 g15 buttons and bt3 limits you to 12 buttons per bar, i can't get all of the buttons to show/hide at once |
| 15:45.21 | art3mis | appearantly they're an awesome palce to level alliance too |
| 15:45.25 | art3mis | nice drops n stuff |
| 15:45.35 | Josh_Borke | heh |
| 15:45.37 | art3mis | but they LOVE me so as horde it's useless except that its quiet |
| 15:46.26 | art3mis | need feathfall or a parachute cloak though |
| 15:46.31 | art3mis | otherwise you die ;P |
| 15:47.53 | art3mis | i wish i could send dings to people |
| 15:47.57 | art3mis | or audio files |
| 15:48.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.52 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, what prompted the random MVP comment? |
| 15:52.12 | art3mis | just a random thing i was reading |
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| 15:52.21 | art3mis | thought the first line was kind of funny |
| 15:52.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Okay, rant away then. |
| 15:52.46 | Lopeppeppy | Kinda describes Cogwheel. :) |
| 15:53.03 | art3mis | heh yeah |
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| 15:55.34 | |Jelly| | Malreth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4184979008&sid=1 "don't fathom" ? lol |
| 15:55.37 | phetips | rogue UI's, anyone? |
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| 15:55.46 | phetips | any rogues in here? |
| 15:55.54 | |Jelly| | Sure. |
| 15:56.04 | phetips | any recommendations? |
| 15:56.10 | phetips | on addons or UI packages |
| 15:56.24 | |Jelly| | But I'd be willing to bet that anyone in here is going to tell you the same thing: There's so such thing as a class-specific UI. |
| 15:56.36 | phetips | =.= |
| 15:56.37 | Lopeppeppy | True that, |Jelly|. |
| 15:56.43 | phetips | how's that |
| 15:56.53 | malreth|ghost | |Jelly|: yeah... fathom |
| 15:56.57 | malreth|ghost | ~dict fathom |
| 15:57.00 | Lopeppeppy | Everything is 100% customizable to each class, you just have to do the work and make it happen. |
| 15:57.10 | malreth|ghost | clearly most trolls aren't familiar with units of volume |
| 15:57.17 | |Jelly| | How's that? ...I use the same UI for every one of my characters, including my raid-healing priest, hunter, shaman, rogue, etc. |
| 15:57.19 | Lopeppeppy | As a rogue I use the EXACT same addons as my healing paladin, minus two that are healer specific. |
| 15:57.20 | phetips | how is an addon that categorizes your totems and puts them in a nice UI not shaman specific? |
| 15:57.35 | haste | *facepalm* |
| 15:57.40 | Lopeppeppy | Because it can be customized to do something for my mage if I re-write it. |
| 15:57.59 | phetips | sure, if you re-write a shaman specific addon, it's not shaman specific anymore =.= |
| 15:58.01 | Lopeppeppy | UI and Addon are two different animals, phetips, which might be leading you to confusion in our responses. |
| 15:58.08 | phetips | Lopeppeppy: probably |
| 15:58.18 | malreth|ghost | see... we need to clarify a few things... when you say UI do you mean the entire presentation of the user interface or just a single addon? |
| 15:58.29 | phetips | well yeah |
| 15:58.42 | malreth|ghost | an addon can be class-specific |
| 15:58.42 | phetips | i guess i mean the entire presentation |
| 15:58.42 | |Jelly| | Malreth: Yeah. You're right, I don't see any unit of measure in that thread. |
| 15:58.55 | phetips | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/8440/ |
| 15:58.56 | |Jelly| | [09:58]<phetips>i guess i mean the entire presentation <-- problem |
| 15:59.01 | phetips | i'd call that a rogue specific UI? |
| 15:59.22 | art3mis | thats not true jelly |
| 15:59.28 | |Jelly| | Looks pretty generic to me. :-\ |
| 15:59.29 | art3mis | HKUI is totally paladin specific ;P |
| 15:59.37 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 15:59.58 | malreth|ghost | phetips: i don't see how that UI is specific to a rogue... my mage could use it just fine |
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| 16:00.30 | malreth|ghost | although the use of both a HUD and unit frames... awful |
| 16:00.42 | phetips | malreth|ghost: yes okay, but the compilation itself is rogue specific |
| 16:00.49 | phetips | well |
| 16:00.52 | phetips | "specific" |
| 16:00.53 | phetips | k |
| 16:00.55 | |Jelly| | And honestly, unless it's an addon to help keep track of poisons (which I use SmartBuff for anyway) I can't really think of a rogue-specific addon either. Granted, my rogue is only 40 so I haven't raided or anything. |
| 16:00.56 | phetips | let's reprashe |
| 16:01.09 | phetips | the compilation is aimed at rogue :) |
| 16:01.13 | phetips | *rogues |
| 16:01.19 | malreth|ghost | phetips: the guy even says, "I use this UI on my rogue as well as all other charactes" |
| 16:01.32 | phetips | yeah and the sentence after that states |
| 16:01.39 | phetips | that he removes autopick pocket loot |
| 16:01.50 | phetips | but ah well |
| 16:01.56 | phetips | this is a useless discussion, i understand your point |
| 16:02.00 | phetips | you are right |
| 16:02.24 | phetips | so i'm not looking for rogue specific UI's, i'm looking for UI's aimed at rogues ;) |
| 16:02.34 | |Jelly| | ~facepalm |
| 16:02.35 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 16:02.51 | |Jelly| | Fine a UI you like ... and then ... load it on your rogue. |
| 16:02.54 | art3mis | no such thing ;P |
| 16:03.13 | art3mis | the only thing that as jelly said would make it gear towards a rogue is a lack of other things rogues dont need |
| 16:03.49 | art3mis | all a rogue needs on thier screen is a unit frame a pickpocket button a backstab button and 3 other spammable buttons |
| 16:03.55 | art3mis | oh and a stealth button |
| 16:04.03 | art3mis | past that .... |
| 16:04.26 | art3mis | sorta like a pally ui just needs two buttons one for bubble and one for hearth ;P |
| 16:05.34 | malreth|ghost | art3mis: you for got the /dance macro button |
| 16:05.48 | art3mis | oh yeah and the t-bag macro |
| 16:05.51 | malreth|ghost | s/r g/rg/ |
| 16:05.56 | art3mis | for when you're camping |
| 16:06.03 | MoonWolf | art3mis, and a counter for s&d and a counter for rupture |
| 16:06.14 | MoonWolf | and buttons for trinkets |
| 16:06.16 | art3mis | i love rogues that stealth around with thier non combat pet |
| 16:06.19 | art3mis | in bgs |
| 16:06.29 | MoonWolf | and counters for AR and BF |
| 16:06.40 | MoonWolf | or buttons, can be both |
| 16:06.40 | art3mis | no you're getting confusing now moon |
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| 16:06.51 | art3mis | it is a rogue player after all |
| 16:07.04 | art3mis | the only reason they chose rogue was because hunter seemed too gay |
| 16:07.10 | MoonWolf | i really, really, dislike people who make playing a good rogue sound like you press 3 buttons at most. |
| 16:07.47 | art3mis | it is though ;P |
| 16:08.20 | ralfWORK | well |
| 16:08.22 | MoonWolf | hardly |
| 16:08.27 | ralfWORK | most classes, it's 3 buttons |
| 16:08.34 | MoonWolf | resto druid now |
| 16:08.36 | MoonWolf | used to be rogue |
| 16:08.53 | MoonWolf | changed from us to eu, new guild needed healers. |
| 16:08.55 | ralfWORK | what's more important is not being a r-tard |
| 16:08.57 | MoonWolf | eu to us* |
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| 16:09.40 | |Jelly| | ralfWORK: I run into that problem with hunters more than anything. |
| 16:09.49 | ralfWORK | funny, for us, it's our tank |
| 16:09.58 | ralfWORK | who didn't know what intervene was till last night |
| 16:10.23 | ralfWORK | and we've cleared kara :P |
| 16:10.47 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:11.02 | ralfWORK | why the priest (me) knew about it and he didn't, I don't know! |
| 16:11.09 | |Jelly| | At least hunters have some sort of excuse, most of them solo a LOT so their grouping skills are ... horrible. lol |
| 16:11.18 | ralfWORK | yea I suppose |
| 16:11.26 | malreth | i swear that my fiancee doesn't know what half the abilities are on her hunter. she goes to the trainer, picks up the new skills and never opens the spell book to see what they do |
| 16:11.43 | ralfWORK | I have actually seen it with mages, warlocks, hunters and rogues |
| 16:11.47 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 16:11.53 | ralfWORK | come to think of it, any non-hybrid class |
| 16:12.20 | ralfWORK | have a mage who ALWAYS dies on AOE pulls |
| 16:12.25 | ralfWORK | because he runs in with the damn tank |
| 16:12.39 | kamdis | heh |
| 16:12.47 | ralfWORK | I'm like "dude, there isn't a race" |
| 16:12.54 | kamdis | it's the mage's job to die on aoe pulls :P |
| 16:13.00 | ralfWORK | tank gets maybe 1 thunderclap |
| 16:13.06 | ralfWORK | btw, same tank HATES thunderclap |
| 16:13.09 | ralfWORK | "it doesn't generate threat" |
| 16:13.13 | |Jelly| | If a tank can keep aggro on all the aoe things from a mage, he's better than any tank I've ever seen. lol |
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| 16:13.30 | malreth | pallies ftw |
| 16:13.30 | kamdis | or it's a horrible mage |
| 16:13.40 | |Jelly| | Yeah. lol |
| 16:13.40 | ralfWORK | he's actually an extremely good mage |
| 16:13.43 | ralfWORK | he's just bad at that |
| 16:13.45 | ralfWORK | horrible at that |
| 16:13.55 | kamdis | i meant in general, not your particular case |
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| 16:14.09 | Valaron|Work | Mornin' |
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| 16:14.12 | MoonWolf | warriors and druids have a hard time keepig sufficient threat on more then 3 targets for any decent aoeing. |
| 16:14.14 | ralfWORK | I can't count the number of times he's frozen stray mobs in place and saved another clothies ass |
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| 16:14.29 | ralfWORK | MoonWolf: our tank can't keep threat on more than 1 |
| 16:14.32 | ralfWORK | that's how bad he is |
| 16:14.40 | MoonWolf | he needs to l2p |
| 16:14.46 | ralfWORK | ok, maybe expecting him to get threat on 10 mobs is unreasonable |
| 16:14.48 | ralfWORK | but christ |
| 16:14.52 | ralfWORK | how hard is it |
| 16:14.59 | ralfWORK | tab tab tab |
| 16:15.02 | ralfWORK | cleave |
| 16:15.04 | ralfWORK | tc |
| 16:15.06 | ralfWORK | demo shout |
| 16:15.15 | ralfWORK | tab sunder tab revenge tab devastate whatever |
| 16:16.01 | ralfWORK | I play my warrior mostly out of frustration with his technique |
| 16:16.12 | ralfWORK | so when I get pissed, I hop on my warrior and beat up stuff |
| 16:16.19 | ralfWORK | my warrior is level 42 now :) |
| 16:18.01 | ralfWORK | hell, pop battle stance and use retaliate for all I care |
| 16:18.01 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 16:21.45 | zenzelezz | tanking multiple mobs on a warrior is generally possible if your raid knows what the hell they're doing; but if they fuck up then it's their own fault |
| 16:22.40 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 16:22.47 | ralfWORK | a little focus fire goes a long way |
| 16:23.01 | ralfWORK | we have the dps |
| 16:23.06 | ralfWORK | it won't even last long |
| 16:23.20 | kamdis | "If the tank dies, it's the healer's fault; if the healer dies, it's the tank's fault; if anyone else dies, it's their own damn fault. |
| 16:23.24 | kamdis | " |
| 16:23.42 | ralfWORK | lol that old simple statement |
| 16:24.04 | zenzelezz | kamdis: wish it were that easy, but by and large it will be true |
| 16:24.12 | ralfWORK | good words to build on, certainly not the end all truth though :) |
| 16:24.42 | |Jelly| | It's pretty close. |
| 16:24.44 | zenzelezz | "you spank it, you tank it" |
| 16:24.54 | ralfWORK | now that one I agree with, zenzelezz |
| 16:25.06 | ralfWORK | and have yet to find exception with |
| 16:25.14 | kamdis | of course it's not that simple, but it's a good general rule |
| 16:25.21 | zenzelezz | kamdis: very much so |
| 16:25.38 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: mm. Moroes. Curater. Maiden. Aran |
| 16:25.55 | ralfWORK | all of which "if anyone else dies, it's the healer's fault" |
| 16:26.02 | kamdis | I mean, as a healer I would never just ignore everyone but the tank, but if it comes down to the tank or a Warlock, I'm healing the tank |
| 16:26.31 | ralfWORK | kamdis: not to be a thorn in your side, but on the AOE pulls, I'd heal the AOEer over the tank |
| 16:26.48 | zenzelezz | everything within context |
| 16:26.57 | zenzelezz | we have a simple rule for Mount Hyjal |
| 16:27.01 | ralfWORK | s/it's the/it's not the/ |
| 16:27.01 | kamdis | ralf, I said "general rule" |
| 16:27.07 | zenzelezz | "KEEP THE F'IN PROT PALADIN UP OR WE ALL DIE" |
| 16:27.13 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: lol |
| 16:27.32 | |Jelly| | ralf: on the aoe pulls, I'm aoeing too. :P |
| 16:28.09 | ralfWORK | kamdis: I suppose it's a matter of perspective and progression. The bosses in kara (our current progression) generally require a good bit of raid healing |
| 16:28.57 | kamdis | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.15 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 16:29.17 | Lopeppeppy | Each group does their healing setup a different way. |
| 16:29.54 | kamdis | I've been raid healing since 2005. I wrote what I did to be funny. Please don't try to "teach" me about raid healing. |
| 16:29.55 | zenzelezz | everyone does everything their own way |
| 16:29.55 | Lopeppeppy | Even inside a group, different class members do it differently. I never have to heal Iced (rogue). why? She bandages and takes potions or healthstones or Vanishes. Kes.... he gets more healing than the tank sometimes. |
| 16:30.03 | ralfWORK | sorry, I've seen plenty of shitty healers and shitty tanks say "he wasn't tanknig so I didn't heal him" |
| 16:30.46 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 16:30.46 | Lopeppeppy | And the stereotypes kill yet *another* healer's will to do the work. |
| 16:30.46 | |Jelly| | ~facepalm |
| 16:30.47 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
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| 16:30.47 | Industrial | how can you say that if a mob AoE's? |
| 16:30.47 | Lopeppeppy | So... how about that local sports team or weather event!? |
| 16:30.47 | ralfWORK | kamdis: sorry, I totally missed the sarcasm. totally my bad |
| 16:30.55 | Industrial | purl: LAG |
| 16:30.55 | purl | i guess lag is very bad here :( |
| 16:31.18 | kamdis | Sorry, I'm in a crap mood today. |
| 16:31.36 | ralfWORK | oddly enough, I usually am too, the day after a raid :( |
| 16:32.04 | ralfWORK | leading a raid of monkeys has a way of doing that to me |
| 16:32.12 | Industrial | haha |
| 16:32.20 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: I think Atlanta should get some more rain! |
| 16:32.22 | kamdis | ol |
| 16:32.24 | kamdis | lol* |
| 16:32.42 | |Jelly| | I think Fort Worth ... should be colder! |
| 16:32.42 | kamdis | You can have San Francisco's rain. |
| 16:32.58 | Lopeppeppy | And I'll take Fort Worth's heat. Being cold makes me cranky. |
| 16:32.58 | ralfWORK | I don't want mud to be in my pipe |
| 16:33.01 | ralfWORK | *pipes |
| 16:33.11 | ralfWORK | actually, I'll take some heat too |
| 16:33.17 | ralfWORK | I didn't move to the south to get freezing rain |
| 16:33.26 | ralfWORK | also, I'm going to eat some CRAB LEGS now, so I'll bbl |
| 16:33.27 | ralfWORK | ;) |
| 16:33.34 | |Jelly| | Peppy: It's 30. Which to most probably isn't cold ... but it's Texas and not the part that's half an hour from Colorado... |
| 16:33.35 | Lopeppeppy | I moved north to get.... a lot of stupid bad stuff. *frown* |
| 16:33.59 | Lopeppeppy | It's only 30 there, |Jelly| ? Wow. I'm only about 30 degrees colder than that, which isn't much relatively speaking. |
| 16:34.50 | Industrial | you silly americans with your different temperature scale |
| 16:34.53 | |Jelly| | I'll tell you all what I tell my friend in Alaska, when summer hits, remember these times when you're an ass to me about it being cold before you say how hot it is. :P |
| 16:35.02 | Industrial | make me convert every time |
| 16:35.11 | |Jelly| | Industrial: Would -1 make it better for you? :-\ |
| 16:35.17 | Industrial | yes |
| 16:35.22 | malreth | hey... Fahrenheit was here first |
| 16:35.31 | Lopeppeppy | I've heard that a cruise to Alaska can be very pretty. I'd like to go someday. |
| 16:37.51 | Valaron|Work | Sounds good. |
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| 16:43.41 | Industrial | dieck: typo? |
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| 16:59.37 | malreth | the 700 MHz auction begins today |
| 17:00.23 | art3mis | the what? |
| 17:00.47 | malreth | analog tv stations in the US are going away feb 2009 |
| 17:00.53 | malreth | switching to all digital |
| 17:01.15 | malreth | a chunk of that wireless bandwidth will be available at that point |
| 17:01.16 | Industrial | meh tv |
| 17:01.18 | art3mis | so they're actually auctioning off the new freqs for starter chanels? |
| 17:01.30 | art3mis | or using it for whatever.. |
| 17:01.42 | malreth | the nice thing about 700 MHz is that unlike 2.4 GHz... it doesn't bounce. off. of. water. |
| 17:02.04 | art3mis | sure it does you just need thicker water ;P |
| 17:02.04 | malreth | and it propagates much farther and easier |
| 17:02.23 | malreth | so, the FCC is auctioning it off |
| 17:02.42 | malreth | a lot of mobile companies are wanting to snap it up |
| 17:02.58 | malreth | google has plans to bid for it as well |
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| 17:03.19 | cogwheel | jfgi imo :P |
| 17:03.57 | malreth | cogwheel: you must have Thunder_Child's spellcheck dictionary loaded |
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| 17:05.35 | Lopeppeppy | What's addiction-er-eee? |
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| 17:08.32 | art3mis | would be nice if google snagged it and made it open wireless frequency for internet |
| 17:08.53 | art3mis | using thier own special wireless cards of course |
| 17:09.20 | malreth | that's the hopelessly optimistic hope |
| 17:09.32 | art3mis | ya never know |
| 17:09.49 | malreth | but the auction is certainly going to go into the tens of billions |
| 17:09.55 | malreth | opening bid is 4.6 bil |
| 17:11.02 | malreth | and the rules surrounding the auction mean it will probably cost even more to implement the infrastructure |
| 17:11.39 | malreth | there's restrictions in place that require the winner to build a new public-safety communications network for police/fire/etc |
| 17:12.09 | malreth | and it has to be done in a certain period of time (5 years, iirc) or there's bad ju-ju |
| 17:12.22 | art3mis | pez needs food BADLY! |
| 17:12.37 | zenzelezz | |pez| is always talking about food |
| 17:12.48 | |pez| | But ofcourse, |pez| loves food! |
| 17:13.00 | malreth | it sounds sick |
| 17:13.06 | Lopeppeppy | Meep. |
| 17:13.10 | |pez| | 0.o |
| 17:13.11 | malreth | but right now, someone is really getting off to what i just wrote |
| 17:13.16 | Lopeppeppy | I'm attention starved, but not that badly! |
| 17:13.17 | Industrial | what |
| 17:13.22 | |pez| | I don't wanna eat Lopeppeppy! |
| 17:13.34 | art3mis | thats too much "sexy" in one person though mal ;P |
| 17:14.21 | malreth | There's marketing potential here |
| 17:14.42 | art3mis | Peppy Steaks...The Cute you can eat! |
| 17:14.52 | malreth | "For a change of pace, get some Lopeppeppy in you!" |
| 17:15.09 | art3mis | that has all sorts of double meanings ;P |
| 17:15.09 | Lopeppeppy | Er... I like it the other way around, malreth, but thanks. *wink* |
| 17:15.44 | art3mis | and peppy thats why it's a change of pace ;P |
| 17:16.11 | Lopeppeppy | Ah.... I don't have any of those toys, I'll have to invest. |
| 17:16.49 | art3mis | heh wake yer hubby up like hat one night (like he done to you, im assuming, countless times) ;) |
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| 17:18.08 | malreth | :D |
| 17:18.31 | art3mis | i wouldnt turn yer back on her! |
| 17:18.59 | malreth | i missed everything after the "change of pace" line |
| 17:19.02 | malreth | wireless dropped |
| 17:19.24 | Lopeppeppy | Er... art3mis.... no peeking. |
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| 17:22.43 | [Liquidor] | .999~ = 1 ? |
| 17:22.53 | malreth | close enough |
| 17:24.41 | Shirik | Not close enough |
| 17:24.42 | Shirik | it is. |
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| 17:25.20 | Valaron|Work | So.... |
| 17:25.28 | [Liquidor] | Shirik, you believe .999~ = 1 ? |
| 17:25.31 | malreth | only the Sith think in absolutes |
| 17:25.36 | Shirik | I don't "believe" |
| 17:25.37 | Shirik | I know. |
| 17:25.42 | Shirik | Assuming the 9 repeats forever. |
| 17:25.52 | [Liquidor] | It's 2 diff numbers tho |
| 17:25.57 | Shirik | No it's not |
| 17:26.12 | Shirik | I know a billion different ways to prove it |
| 17:26.35 | art3mis | k lets see them all |
| 17:26.46 | [Liquidor] | let's see 1? |
| 17:26.51 | Shirik | Stfu. Anyway, easiest one is recall that 1/3 = .333~. 3*.333~ = .999 = 3*1/3 = 3/3 = 1 |
| 17:26.58 | art3mis | no i wanna see a billion ways |
| 17:27.11 | Shirik | ~lart art3mis |
| 17:27.11 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on art3mis |
| 17:27.25 | art3mis | rolly polly fish heads? |
| 17:27.44 | Shirik | The same can be done with 1/9 * 9 btw |
| 17:28.25 | art3mis | only for sufficiantly large valies of 9 |
| 17:28.28 | art3mis | values |
| 17:28.41 | Lopeppeppy | This just in, water isn't wet. |
| 17:29.11 | Cide | god |
| 17:29.16 | Cide | not this discussion again |
| 17:30.05 | Shirik | wikipedia has a good article on why people refuse to believe .999~ = 1 |
| 17:30.15 | Shirik | I find this to be the most true: Some students interpret "0.999…" (or similar notation) as a large but finite string of 9s, possibly with a variable, unspecified length. If they accept an infinite string of nines, they may still expect a last 9 "at infinity".[2] |
| 17:30.22 | Cide | yep |
| 17:30.37 | cogwheel | [Liquidor]: it's not two different numbers. It's two different representations of the same number |
| 17:31.02 | malreth | it's only equal to 1 for sufficiently large definitions of 9 |
| 17:31.06 | malreth | HAHAHAH! |
| 17:31.06 | art3mis | you cant round infinity ;P |
| 17:31.15 | Shirik | Another common proof is as follows |
| 17:31.20 | Shirik | n = .999~ |
| 17:31.24 | Shirik | 10n = 9.999~ |
| 17:31.41 | Shirik | 10n-n=9.999~-.999 |
| 17:31.45 | Shirik | 9c = 9.0000~ |
| 17:31.52 | Shirik | er, n sorry |
| 17:31.56 | Shirik | 9n=9.000~ |
| 17:32.04 | Shirik | n=1=.999~ |
| 17:32.23 | [Liquidor] | well in response to "[18:24:19] [@Shirik] Stfu. Anyway, easiest one is recall that 1/3 = .333~. 3*.333~ = .999 = 3*1/3 = 3/3 = 1"... |
| 17:32.35 | Shirik | the "stfu" was directed at art3mis's billion comment btw :P |
| 17:33.24 | [Liquidor] | a=b -- a^2 = ab -- a^2 + a2 =a^2 + ab -- 2a^2 = a^2 + ab -- 2a^2 - 2ab = a^2 +ab - 2ab -- 2a^2 - 2ab =a^2 - ab |
| 17:33.24 | [Liquidor] | This can be written as 2(a^2 - ab) = 1(a^2 - ab) and cancelling the (a^2 - ab) from both sides gives 1=2 -- Does this make it true? |
| 17:33.31 | [Liquidor] | hehe Shirik, don't worry :) |
| 17:33.48 | Shirik | makes perfect sense considering that you divided by zero |
| 17:33.59 | cogwheel | [Liquidor]: you have a hidden error |
| 17:34.10 | [Liquidor] | An easy example... Your Mom cannot fly. My rock cannot fly. Therefor your Mom must be a rock (no offence) |
| 17:34.19 | cogwheel | entirely different |
| 17:34.24 | cogwheel | that's a logical fallacy |
| 17:34.25 | Shirik | No, you have a break in your logic |
| 17:34.26 | Shirik | I don't |
| 17:34.35 | Shirik | I started at one side and ended with the other, therefore they must be true |
| 17:34.57 | Shirik | This is a very common (and formal) method of mathematical proof... |
| 17:35.03 | [Liquidor] | alos Shirik.... |
| 17:35.14 | [Liquidor] | you multiply .333~ by 3 |
| 17:35.19 | [Liquidor] | that woud be 3 infinites |
| 17:35.24 | cogwheel | [Liquidor]: again, you're confusing a number with a representation of a number |
| 17:35.32 | art3mis | shirik of course with cheater math.... |
| 17:35.34 | Shirik | It's perfectly legal |
| 17:35.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.39 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.41 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.43 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:35.45 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.47 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.49 | art3mis | so nyah |
| 17:35.49 | Shirik | There is no i |
| 17:35.53 | art3mis | you cannot round an infitie number just to suit your purpose |
| 17:35.55 | Shirik | I refuse to believe that proof |
| 17:36.00 | Shirik | there is no such number as i |
| 17:36.03 | art3mis | infinite |
| 17:36.10 | Shirik | sqrt(-1) is j |
| 17:36.36 | art3mis | thats chweater math ;) |
| 17:36.47 | art3mis | much like you're doing in assuming that .999~ = 1 |
| 17:36.54 | Shirik | btw, i/1 != 1/i |
| 17:37.00 | art3mis | its close to 1 but never actually 1 |
| 17:37.10 | [Liquidor] | idd |
| 17:37.13 | Cide | please |
| 17:37.14 | Cide | just die |
| 17:37.18 | [Liquidor] | no u |
| 17:37.19 | cogwheel | ~lart3mis |
| 17:37.20 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 17:37.32 | Lopeppeppy | No you. |
| 17:37.32 | Shirik | yeah, I have to go do a lab |
| 17:37.39 | cogwheel | art3mis: stop trolling and feeding [Liquidor] |
| 17:37.40 | Shirik | I know my math, and if you all refuse to believe it then that's your problem |
| 17:37.54 | cogwheel | i can't stand people who get in the way of the truth |
| 17:37.54 | Shirik | I'll be sure to code in that 2=1 only if art3mis is on the airplane I designed |
| 17:38.10 | art3mis | The MVP program is not to say that no one else is helpful, nor that MVPs are 100% helpful. |
| 17:38.49 | art3mis | that you're not 100% helpful ;) |
| 17:38.50 | Shirik | Altitude = FL250 "Pull Up" |
| 17:39.03 | [Liquidor] | lmao at Shirik :> |
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| 17:39.13 | [Liquidor] | a=b -- a^2 = ab -- a^2 + a2 =a^2 + ab -- 2a^2 = a^2 + ab -- 2a^2 - 2ab = a^2 +ab - 2ab -- 2a^2 - 2ab =a^2 - ab |
| 17:39.13 | [Liquidor] | This can be written as 2(a^2 - ab) = 1(a^2 - ab) and cancelling the (a^2 - ab) from both sides gives 1=2 -- Does this make it true? |
| 17:39.21 | [Liquidor] | gah wrong copy/paste sorry |
| 17:39.34 | [Liquidor] | apparently it didn't copy |
| 17:39.40 | Cide | (a^2 - ab) for a=b == 0 |
| 17:39.41 | Shirik | sqrt(-1) is j, and you cannot deny that |
| 17:39.43 | Cide | division by zero |
| 17:39.48 | Cide | i |
| 17:39.50 | Cide | god damn you |
| 17:39.52 | Shirik | j |
| 17:40.19 | Cide | no! |
| 17:41.26 | Shirik | I is current |
| 17:41.30 | Shirik | j is the imaginary unit |
| 17:41.36 | cogwheel | u is outdated imo |
| 17:41.42 | Cide | I != i |
| 17:41.52 | Cide | that's like saying we need a new prefix for 'mega' because m is mass |
| 17:41.54 | Shirik | e^(j*pi)=cos(theta)+jsin(theta) |
| 17:42.12 | Shirik | Cide: Electrical & Computer engineers don't use mass |
| 17:42.15 | Shirik | so it's irrelevant :P |
| 17:42.16 | Cide | I don't care |
| 17:42.28 | Cide | there are other equivalent examples I'm sure :P |
| 17:42.28 | Shirik | If you want to invent a new symbol, by all means go right ahead. We already did :P |
| 17:42.36 | Cide | I'll reinvent your mom |
| 17:42.57 | Shirik | batrick will agree with me |
| 17:43.05 | Cide | but honestly, j is stupid, "jmaginary"? never heared of it |
| 17:43.09 | Cide | s/heared/heard/ |
| 17:43.17 | Cide | but it's all semantics |
| 17:43.21 | Shirik | as well Shizen |
| 17:43.36 | Cide | 0.999~ = 1 is true regardless of what symbols you use |
| 17:43.48 | Cide | not that they're related, but still |
| 17:43.51 | Shirik | I think we need a new digit |
| 17:43.52 | Shizen | what ? |
| 17:43.54 | Shizen | what agree ? |
| 17:43.56 | Shizen | oh, j ? |
| 17:43.57 | Shirik | sqrt(-1) |
| 17:43.58 | Shizen | j > i |
| 17:43.59 | Shirik | symbol |
| 17:44.02 | Shizen | srsly |
| 17:44.25 | Shizen | also mega is M |
| 17:44.27 | Shizen | mass is m |
| 17:44.48 | Lopeppeppy | Chicken tastes like pork. |
| 17:44.49 | Cide | what stops you from using i for sqrt(-1) then? |
| 17:44.57 | Shizen | Shirik : we use 'mass' sometimes in the free body diagram |
| 17:45.15 | Shirik | I don't care what the mass is :P Let the mechanical engineer do that |
| 17:45.29 | Shizen | true :P we're just using it as symbolics anyway |
| 17:46.54 | Shirik | --> local sqrtold = math.sqrt; math.sqrt = function(n) if (n < 0) return sqrtold(-n).."j" else return sqrtold(n) end end |
| 17:46.54 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: 'then' expected near 'return' |
| 17:47.01 | Shirik | --> local sqrtold = math.sqrt; math.sqrt = function(n) if (n < 0) then return sqrtold(-n).."j" else return sqrtold(n) end end |
| 17:47.02 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: cannot modify math table |
| 17:47.05 | Shirik | grrrr |
| 17:47.05 | Cide | >>> math.sqrt(-1) |
| 17:47.05 | Cide | Cide: -1.#IND |
| 17:47.07 | Cide | bah |
| 17:47.19 | nevcairiel | no it cant do i |
| 17:47.23 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:47.27 | Shirik | --> local sqrtold = math.sqrt; sqrt = function(n) if (n < 0) return sqrtold(-n).."j" else return sqrtold(n) end end |
| 17:47.27 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: 'then' expected near 'return' |
| 17:47.33 | Shirik | --> local sqrtold = math.sqrt; sqrt = function(n) if (n < 0) then return sqrtold(-n).."j" else return sqrtold(n) end end |
| 17:47.36 | Cide | sadly... |
| 17:47.38 | Cide | >>> complex(0, 1) |
| 17:47.38 | Cide | 1j |
| 17:47.42 | Shirik | HA |
| 17:47.43 | Cide | python agrees with you noobs |
| 17:47.55 | Cide | (that's python and not lua) |
| 17:48.02 | Shirik | Lua agrees too now |
| 17:48.07 | Shirik | --> sqrt(-1) |
| 17:48.08 | batbot | Shirik: > 1j |
| 17:48.28 | Shirik | Hi Cairenn, sqrt(-1) is it i or j |
| 17:48.52 | Cide | wait, is batbot's environment permanent? |
| 17:48.57 | Cide | for a lack of a better word |
| 17:49.00 | Shirik | affirmative |
| 17:49.03 | Cide | cool |
| 17:49.13 | Cide | --> sqrt = math.sqrt |
| 17:49.21 | Cide | --> sqrt(-1) |
| 17:49.21 | batbot | Cide: > nan |
| 17:49.32 | nevcairiel | so if i do math = nil |
| 17:49.33 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 17:49.37 | Shirik | won't let you |
| 17:49.38 | nevcairiel | ah no he protected those :P |
| 17:49.48 | Shirik | it won't even let me protect sqrt |
| 17:49.54 | Shirik | --> getmetatable(_G) |
| 17:49.54 | batbot | Shirik: > leave this alone |
| 17:50.17 | Shirik | hm |
| 17:50.22 | Cide | --> setfenv(0, { }) |
| 17:50.22 | batbot | Cide: > function: 0x807eb40 |
| 17:50.30 | Cide | --> type(sqrt) |
| 17:50.30 | batbot | Cide: > function |
| 17:50.34 | Cide | boo :P |
| 17:51.15 | Cide | now to figure out why my collision detection doesn't work :/ |
| 17:51.33 | Shirik | >>> setmetatable(SV, {__index = {sqrt = function(n) if (n < 0) then return math.sqrt(-n).."j" else return math.sqrt(n) end end}, __newindex = function(t,k,v) if k == "sqrt" then print("Cannot change sqrt") end end, __metatable = "I win"}); |
| 17:51.33 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 17:51.38 | Shirik | >>> SV.sqrt(-1) |
| 17:51.42 | Shirik | hm |
| 17:51.44 | Shirik | oops |
| 17:51.54 | Shirik | I think the broken SV.sqrt() is now stuck there |
| 17:52.09 | Shirik | oh, I get it |
| 17:52.13 | Shirik | >>> return getmetatable(SV) |
| 17:52.13 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 17:52.16 | Shirik | that's boring |
| 17:52.35 | Shirik | I was going to have a permanent sqrt() function on your bot |
| 17:52.38 | Shirik | and you couldn't do anything about it |
| 17:53.01 | Shirik | except maybe rawset but that's not far |
| 17:53.02 | Shirik | fair |
| 17:53.40 | Shirik | btw Cide, from Wikipedia |
| 17:53.42 | Shirik | # In electrical engineering and related fields, the imaginary unit is often written as j\, to avoid confusion with electrical current as a function of time, traditionally denoted by i(t)\, or just i.\, The Python programming language also uses j to denote the imaginary unit, while in Matlab, both notations i and j are associated with the imaginary unit. |
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| 17:54.05 | nevcairiel | stupid python :D |
| 17:54.15 | Cide | yeah, I know |
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| 17:56.01 | Cide | bleh |
| 17:56.39 | Cide | my physics engine behaes differently if you speed it up :/ |
| 17:56.53 | Shirik | If you had used j it probably would have worked correctly |
| 17:57.06 | Cide | it doesn't involve complex math :P but maybe it should! |
| 17:57.21 | Shirik | "physics engine" ... "doesn't involve complex math" odd |
| 17:57.45 | Cide | why? |
| 17:57.51 | Cide | it's not that complex (har har) |
| 17:58.09 | nevcairiel | i dont see the need for complex numbers in a basic physics engine either |
| 17:58.13 | cogwheel | Shirik and Cide are giving me a complex |
| 17:58.33 | Shirik | complex numbers simplify trigonometry :D |
| 17:58.41 | nevcairiel | well thats true |
| 17:58.49 | nevcairiel | the functions are so damn easy using complex numbers |
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| 18:01.19 | Shirik | phasors ftw! |
| 18:01.22 | Shirik | But not really |
| 18:01.23 | Shirik | and I have to go |
| 18:04.30 | MentalPower | Auctioneer and Gatherer are contemplating moving to GPLv3, please comment: http://forums.norganna.org/discussion/6173 |
| 18:05.29 | malreth|ghost | no don't! you'll die! |
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| 18:06.42 | nevcairiel | I still dont know what to think about v3 |
| 18:07.19 | NightHawkTheSane | its a trap!@ |
| 18:07.22 | zenzelezz | I dislike GPL because it's too wordy for me to guess at the details of |
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| 18:15.38 | zenzelezz | in regards to physics and complex math, I find it amusing how games often try to be realistic, but fail on weird points... like Oblivion, where you can change your direction of movement in mid-air; or even stop moving |
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| 18:17.43 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: at some point, fun has to come into play... could you imagine how frustrating certain games would be if they were less forgiving in areas like that? |
| 18:18.07 | Cide | quake wouldn't be the same |
| 18:18.20 | zenzelezz | Quake never tried to be realistic |
| 18:18.22 | Lopeppeppy | We come in peace, shoot to kill. |
| 18:18.25 | Cide | right |
| 18:18.45 | cogwheel | my guess is that they did have a more realistic engine but eased up a bit after playtesting |
| 18:18.47 | zenzelezz | but Oblivion does reward jumping (except in combat), since you gain benefits from the athletics skill or whatever |
| 18:21.09 | malreth|ghost | more games should have double-jumping |
| 18:21.49 | malreth|ghost | and wall-jumping |
| 18:22.45 | Cide | and wall-humping |
| 18:22.54 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Okay. |
| 18:23.19 | malreth | wow arenas have that... but with pillars instead |
| 18:23.30 | JoshBorke | cide: i think there's more than enough humping in the world to go around. no need to create more |
| 18:23.48 | Cide | that's where you're wrong, buddy! |
| 18:24.21 | JoshBorke | just go get some puppies cide, they'll satisfy you |
| 18:24.42 | malreth | :( |
| 18:24.52 | malreth | no one should ever hump puppies... not even once |
| 18:25.02 | ralfWORK | uhm... yea |
| 18:25.30 | JoshBorke | well, i was more thinking they'd hump cide, but you know, whatever |
| 18:25.36 | Cide | nah, I'm humping-deficient only when playing games |
| 18:25.43 | Cide | hence why games need that extra wall-humping factor |
| 18:25.54 | Cide | I'm more of a cat person, too |
| 18:26.01 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 18:26.05 | Lopeppeppy | Chinese for dinner, anyone? |
| 18:26.12 | Cide | no thanks |
| 18:27.16 | MentalPower | I prefer Swede myself :P (j/k) |
| 18:27.30 | Cide | me too! |
| 18:27.45 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: had some last night |
| 18:27.47 | Cairenn | Swedeheart! |
| 18:27.52 | cogwheel | wasn't very good :( |
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| 18:30.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'm thinking it's my solution for tonight. I'm not very motivated to cook for The Jerk anymore. |
| 18:31.06 | zenzelezz | my sixth sense is telling me peppy isn't all happy :-/ |
| 18:31.27 | Lopeppeppy | I've been saying that for weeks, zenzelezz, lern2archive? |
| 18:31.49 | MentalPower | I like how its "The Jerk" |
| 18:32.06 | zenzelezz | I also suspect my joke about my imba sixth sense didn't carry across to peppy |
| 18:32.35 | Lopeppeppy | MentalPower... my other names aren't for public channels. *shrug* |
| 18:32.52 | MentalPower | fair enough |
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| 18:37.21 | malreth|ghost | damn... spilled my drink |
| 18:37.33 | Lopeppeppy | Mind the keyboard, malreth! |
| 18:37.57 | malreth|ghost | was opening the door with a tray of food and drink in hand... and the return on the door was really fast |
| 18:38.10 | malreth|ghost | knocked the tray sending the cup flying |
| 18:38.32 | malreth|ghost | i know the cleaning crew in this building... they're gonna give me a hard time for it |
| 18:39.03 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops. and it was a dark liquid on a light carpet/wall, right? |
| 18:39.24 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.34 | malreth | but it's at the bottom of a stairwell in front of the door |
| 18:39.51 | Lopeppeppy | Icky. |
| 18:43.07 | malreth | wireless connection down here sucks |
| 18:45.28 | malreth | three bars... better |
| 18:45.43 | kamdis | I think that profanity guy is probably one of those people who cuss people out in public channels and is afraid of getting reported for it. |
| 18:46.10 | malreth | kamdis: the guy writing the addon or the Ufo guy? |
| 18:46.22 | kamdis | I can't imagine any other reason for being so angry about some mod that some guy will probably never even write. |
| 18:46.27 | kamdis | Ifo |
| 18:46.47 | kamdis | Ufo* |
| 18:47.14 | malreth | kamdis: i was thinking the same thing... but posing such an argument is fallacy |
| 18:47.23 | kamdis | He's either a troll or a complete moron. |
| 18:47.24 | kamdis | "The filter is there because cursing does not violate the ToU otherwise why have it?" |
| 18:47.35 | kamdis | That's his latest |
| 18:47.53 | kamdis | I give up |
| 18:48.01 | kamdis | Such poor logical reasoning skills cannot be overcome by using logic. :( |
| 18:48.37 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh. |
| 18:49.23 | malreth | then it's time to godwin the thread |
| 18:50.41 | kamdis | I almost suggested if that's the case, why doesn't he go sit in Orgrimmar and use nothing but swear words in public channels. |
| 18:50.46 | Saint-N | it is logical to assume that the profanity filter exists to avoid that sort of thing, if you're offended by swearing you turn that one, if its off you agree to put up with bad words, and reporting for someone using bad words because you've turned off the ingame mechanic is like reporting someone on a pvp for killing you |
| 18:51.19 | kamdis | but Blizzard has specifically stated that the profanity filter is not an excuse for using profanity |
| 18:51.58 | Lopeppeppy | Multiple times. |
| 18:52.06 | malreth | Saint-N: so if someone turns off the filter, it's okay to harass them? |
| 18:52.13 | Saint-N | harass is different |
| 18:52.26 | malreth | bingo |
| 18:52.37 | Saint-N | but getting reported for saying something like "god damn I hate the alliance" or "I'm such a dick" are NOT harassment |
| 18:52.55 | Saint-N | btw I have been reported for calling myself a dick ;) |
| 18:53.03 | malreth | and for just cause |
| 18:53.15 | Cairenn | depends on the view point of the person to whom it's being said |
| 18:53.19 | malreth | did you get actioned for it, Saint-N? |
| 18:53.26 | Saint-N | I got a 3 day for it |
| 18:53.33 | Saint-N | calling myself a dick |
| 18:53.50 | malreth | then blizzard determined that what you said was vulgar, and thus in violation of the ToU |
| 18:53.52 | Saint-N | because someone was offended by "dick" and reported me |
| 18:54.25 | Saint-N | I wish people were capable of personal responsibility |
| 18:54.27 | malreth | well, now you know not to use dick in that context |
| 18:54.32 | Saint-N | and stopped being such wastes of flesh |
| 18:54.39 | Saint-N | hasn't stopped me |
| 18:54.44 | malreth | Irony: Saint-N: I wish people were capable of personal responsibility |
| 18:54.50 | malreth | that's irony |
| 18:54.55 | Saint-N | howso? |
| 18:55.04 | Saint-N | I took my punishment and didn't reply back about it |
| 18:55.06 | malreth | just man up and take yer punishment. |
| 18:55.08 | malreth | good |
| 18:55.24 | Saint-N | yeah no I somehow avoided the 3day suspsension and kept playing |
| 18:55.31 | Saint-N | somedays you're a real moron ya know that mal? |
| 18:55.36 | Cide | actually |
| 18:55.39 | malreth | *some*days? |
| 18:55.44 | Saint-N | true enough ;) |
| 18:55.57 | Cide | pretty sure the fact that you're whining about it here proves how ironic your statement is |
| 18:56.07 | zenzelezz | true |
| 18:56.10 | malreth | i have my opinions and i make sure to call things as i see 'em |
| 18:56.25 | malreth | i'll grant that you will disagree with me on this discussion |
| 18:56.26 | Saint-N | basically in this day and age if you're offended by swearing you either ignore it or use the functions provided by the game, but to whine and complain about it just makes people more likely to persist |
| 18:56.42 | Cide | and here you are |
| 18:56.46 | Saint-N | I wouldnt say I'm whining about it |
| 18:56.57 | Cide | I'll make sure to report the next person cussing ingame, thanks! |
| 18:56.58 | Saint-N | I'm saying that it's mostly retarded |
| 18:57.00 | malreth | "and stopped being such wastes of flesh" |
| 18:57.11 | Cide | or saying vulgar stuff, even |
| 18:57.15 | Saint-N | oh that's my general opinion of everyone though mal |
| 18:57.55 | Saint-N | but really, you've got much larger issues if a word offends you |
| 18:58.08 | malreth | it isn't the word |
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| 18:58.15 | Saint-N | yeah it is |
| 18:58.18 | malreth | that's the whole idea of the entire discussion |
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| 18:58.36 | Saint-N | oh I'm not referencing the discussion on the forums, I'm talking about here only ;P |
| 18:58.45 | Saint-N | and the generalized topic |
| 18:58.46 | ralfWORK | nope, we should all play games as though we were in church :P |
| 18:59.16 | Saint-N | ralfWORK: and all the death and murder feasted upon in the game is what? church based witch hunts? |
| 18:59.16 | malreth | we get to drink wine and eat bread? |
| 18:59.30 | ralfWORK | Saint-N: yes sir |
| 18:59.34 | Saint-N | laugh |
| 18:59.39 | Lopeppeppy | ralfWORK -- our feelings, thoughts and preferences don't matter. You sign the terms, you walk the walk or deal with the consequences. No one forces us to do anything. *shrug* |
| 18:59.52 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: they forced me to read dirty words! |
| 18:59.54 | ralfWORK | the PERVERTS |
| 18:59.56 | ralfWORK | omg |
| 19:00.23 | ralfWORK | was a joke btw |
| 19:00.32 | ralfWORK | you need a credit card to play |
| 19:00.38 | ralfWORK | well, I guess you don't |
| 19:01.15 | ralfWORK | but I laugh at those who cry for censorship |
| 19:01.36 | kamdis | the thing I find really amusing is that I have no issue with profanity in general. If it's used to harrass someone, well that's different. I think the addon that poster wants to make is pretty stupid and I'd never use it. So, I basically agree with the person I'm arguing with. |
| 19:01.46 | Cide | ralfWORK: it's not about censorship |
| 19:01.53 | Cide | it's inappropriate, ruins immersion, etc |
| 19:01.59 | malreth | kamdis: me too :D |
| 19:02.12 | Thunder_Child | malreth, i wish my spellcheck dictionary was that good |
| 19:02.12 | kamdis | malreth: lol |
| 19:02.28 | malreth | shit.... i've got a fucking potty mouth |
| 19:02.32 | Lopeppeppy | No wai. |
| 19:02.33 | kamdis | rofl |
| 19:02.37 | kamdis | what the fuck? |
| 19:02.38 | kamdis | :P |
| 19:02.39 | malreth | and honestly, i could care less who i offend or piss off |
| 19:02.50 | malreth | shit... just watch me when Intangir is in here |
| 19:02.55 | kamdis | haha |
| 19:03.05 | kamdis | that guy, though. just struck a nerve. |
| 19:03.08 | Cairenn | I'd really rather not, malreth |
| 19:03.10 | Lopeppeppy | ~seen Intangir |
| 19:03.12 | purl | intangir <i=Intangir@c-98-197-209-214.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 15d 2h 2m 33s ago, saying: 'SO FUCK ALL OF YOU AND LEARN HOW TO NOT BE A FUCKING TOTAL COCK SUCKER'. |
| 19:03.12 | malreth | if you were watching me in real life... you'd find me giggling like a japanese schoolgrl |
| 19:03.22 | Cide | haha |
| 19:03.25 | kamdis | haha |
| 19:03.30 | kamdis | how appropriate |
| 19:03.31 | Lopeppeppy | Oops. Didn't realize it would be such a bad line, I was just wondering when we last saw him. Sorry guys. |
| 19:03.33 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 19:03.50 | malreth | i love pissing people like him off... i guess that makes me a troll, too |
| 19:03.59 | Cide | you know |
| 19:04.00 | Lopeppeppy | We knew that, malreth-dear. |
| 19:04.03 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: not a problem |
| 19:04.05 | Cide | I have nothing against him |
| 19:04.16 | Cide | and I really didn't say anything to him that I don't say to everyone else in here |
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| 19:04.28 | ralfWORK | when you have people that ratchet up easily, it's hard not to poke them with a stick |
| 19:04.33 | Cide | I guess he's either overly sensitive or you guys... aren't |
| 19:04.51 | Lopeppeppy | I'm totally not. |
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| 19:05.07 | Cairenn | honestly, I'm just as glad he hasn't been back, I wasn't looking forward to having to ban him the next time he went off the deep end |
| 19:05.13 | malreth | i know peppy's not... i just killed, cooked, and served her a hour ago |
| 19:05.33 | malreth | Cairenn: that's why you should op me and let me do it |
| 19:05.36 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn is in the wrong life then |
| 19:05.38 | Cairenn | fuck no |
| 19:05.42 | malreth | HAHA! |
| 19:05.44 | Cairenn | (malreth) |
| 19:05.49 | malreth | <3 Cairenn |
| 19:05.53 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:05.55 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 19:07.16 | kamdis | Cide, does CTBuffMod have bars or not? |
| 19:07.21 | Cide | yes |
| 19:07.26 | kamdis | thought so, thanks |
| 19:07.35 | Josh_Borke | <3 CTBuffMod |
| 19:07.36 | Cide | but they can be removed |
| 19:07.38 | malreth | does it support SharedMedia bar textures? |
| 19:07.47 | Cide | no |
| 19:07.50 | malreth | :( |
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| 19:08.52 | kamdis | I don't really know why I stopped using CT mods... |
| 19:08.58 | kamdis | I should try them again. |
| 19:09.09 | ralfWORK | I stopped using a bunch when I was having addon panic |
| 19:09.21 | ralfWORK | and crap was locking up and erroring all over the place |
| 19:09.32 | Cide | our mods don't error :P |
| 19:09.51 | ralfWORK | *shrug* |
| 19:10.03 | kamdis | CT needs more Ace imo (I kid, I kid!!! Don't hurt me.) |
| 19:10.07 | ralfWORK | had to go through process of elimination |
| 19:10.11 | Josh_Borke | dolby-wowi: btw, your fix to wowi fixed my problem too |
| 19:10.25 | Josh_Borke | cide: would you consider supporting LibSharedMedia-2.0 optionally? |
| 19:10.27 | ralfWORK | just never went back around and enabled everything |
| 19:11.18 | ralfWORK | still using raid assist, but I think all teh other ct addons I don't use |
| 19:11.18 | ralfWORK | except mapmod |
| 19:11.18 | ralfWORK | love that on my gatherers :P |
| 19:11.20 | kd3 | eesh. I need to buy some dryer hose or something... pipe the hot air from my case directly out the window behind it. |
| 19:11.32 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:11.49 | Josh_Borke | cide: reason I ask is that LibSharedMedia-2.0 is a LibStub mod |
| 19:12.00 | Josh_Borke | and whatever you do, don't consider this a request :-P |
| 19:12.04 | Josh_Borke | or demand :-P |
| 19:12.36 | malreth | i don't cide will be able to identify with that request, Josh_Borke |
| 19:12.59 | Josh_Borke | wtb translation for what malreth just said |
| 19:13.14 | jo6packaddonusar | Cide: maek ctmods ace plz |
| 19:14.06 | malreth | actually... even I don't know what i was trying to say |
| 19:14.11 | malreth | shit |
| 19:14.45 | malreth | you have to speak to Cide in the only language he understands: Hate |
| 19:15.02 | malreth | you were too nice with your request |
| 19:15.14 | ralfWORK | so uhm... "I hate that CT Mod isn't like Ace mods DO IT NOW MOTHERFUCKER"? |
| 19:15.28 | malreth | motherfucker... there's a good word |
| 19:15.37 | ralfWORK | I don't have alot of hate in me |
| 19:15.37 | malreth | a fucker of mothers |
| 19:15.50 | ralfWORK | I just enrage easily |
| 19:15.56 | malreth | my dad was a motherfucker at least three times in his life |
| 19:16.24 | Cide | I love hate |
| 19:16.40 | malreth | i feel exactly the opposite |
| 19:18.18 | Cide | Josh_Borke: where can I find LibSharedMedia-2.0? |
| 19:18.35 | Josh_Borke | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibSharedMedia-2.0/ >_< |
| 19:19.07 | Josh_Borke | imo, you should make it an option that the person has to enable and then you yell at them that they are enabling an unsupported option ;-) |
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| 19:19.36 | Cide | it doesn't have any textures? |
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| 19:20.04 | malreth | Lunessa: BROTHER! |
| 19:20.38 | Lunessa | We are the same Malreth! We are BROTHERS! |
| 19:20.50 | malreth | What is best in life? |
| 19:20.59 | Cide | nvm |
| 19:21.11 | Josh_Borke | cide: don't think so |
| 19:21.19 | Cide | god damn it |
| 19:21.21 | Lunessa | To crush your enemies. To drive them before you and to hear the lamentations of their women. |
| 19:21.24 | Cide | I don't want to install 15 addons just to test it |
| 19:21.47 | Cide | this is why I don't like ace addons |
| 19:21.47 | Josh_Borke | cide: then don't? |
| 19:21.54 | Cide | how am I supposed to implement it then? |
| 19:22.02 | Lopeppeppy | The best in life is to drink red wine over the piled up corpses of your enemies. |
| 19:22.09 | Josh_Borke | hm, i'll supply you with a patch :-d |
| 19:22.19 | Cide | I sill have to test it |
| 19:22.22 | Cide | still |
| 19:22.31 | malreth | Lunessa: that is good |
| 19:23.00 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: can I quote you on that? |
| 19:23.36 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Sounds a little smelly. But I think I like where you're going with this. |
| 19:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, ralfWORK. |
| 19:23.52 | ralfWORK | kthx |
| 19:23.54 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I rather hope you do. |
| 19:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: well, it only gets smelly the longer you keep the corpses around, ideally you'd have fresh corpses every time you do that, wouldn't smell quite so much |
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| 19:25.58 | Lopeppeppy | Sniff the wine instead, savour the bouquet and full body. |
| 19:26.16 | ralfWORK | fresh corpses don't smell too bad |
| 19:26.26 | Josh_Borke | cide: ok, one second |
| 19:26.32 | NightHawkTheSane | see, thats what i'm saying ralfWORK |
| 19:26.44 | kamdis | malreth: he didn't get the DNA joke :( |
| 19:26.48 | Lopeppeppy | I need to buy myself some nice wine for the weekend. |
| 19:27.17 | Lunessa | Sounds good too. |
| 19:27.22 | Josh_Borke | cide: i'll make it so you only need 2 addons to test it |
| 19:27.31 | Cide | only 2? amazing! |
| 19:27.42 | Josh_Borke | cide: one being the library >_< |
| 19:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, can you recommend a good wine to go with a mass murdering spree? |
| 19:28.39 | malreth | kamdis: he set himself up |
| 19:29.06 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I prefer a nice merlot for that, perhaps the Kendal-Jackson |
| 19:29.25 | Lopeppeppy | Noted. I'll visit the store probably tomorrow during the day. |
| 19:29.51 | malreth | my favorite cheap merlot is concha y toro |
| 19:30.13 | malreth | it's cheap cheap cheap but i likes it |
| 19:30.25 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, I'm not looking for cheap. This is an experience to be savored, sipped, reflected on, and repeated at length. |
| 19:30.57 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: the advantage of cheap merlot is you can keep sipping as often as necessary for an indefinite amount of time |
| 19:31.08 | malreth | while contemplating, reflecting, and all that crap |
| 19:31.21 | Lopeppeppy | Let me pamper myself, malreth! |
| 19:31.28 | Lunessa | Actually, Mal has pretty good tastes in wine. |
| 19:31.33 | ralfWORK | hahahahaha |
| 19:31.38 | ralfWORK | I hate wine |
| 19:31.38 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: that's what God made chocolate for |
| 19:31.42 | ralfWORK | but I do like dead bodies |
| 19:31.52 | ralfWORK | so I'd probably pour some out for my hommies |
| 19:31.57 | ralfWORK | and then drink up |
| 19:32.18 | kamdis | Lopepeppy: I enjoy Ravenswood Merlot. |
| 19:32.40 | Josh_Borke | Cide: LibSharedMedia-2.0 is the library, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SharedMedia-2.0/ is an addon to provide a large selection of media from for testing |
| 19:32.45 | Lunessa | Merlot and Murder - sounds like the title for my nexxt album. |
| 19:32.52 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. Glad I could inspire. |
| 19:33.01 | Lopeppeppy | Merlot and Malice would work too. |
| 19:33.32 | Josh_Borke | cide: so in actuality, you could just install SharedMedia-2.0 and test against that since it will include LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 19:33.37 | ralfWORK | Merlot and Mayhem |
| 19:33.43 | malreth | Merlot and Malice sounds like a good name for a guild |
| 19:34.28 | ralfWORK | my wife loves wine |
| 19:34.31 | ralfWORK | and is a rogue |
| 19:34.38 | ralfWORK | sounds like a guild after her own heart |
| 19:35.29 | Lunessa | malreth: I'm thinking Blood Elves, on an RPPvP server. |
| 19:36.12 | malreth | profanity thread derailed GET! |
| 19:36.21 | malreth | we'll see if it lasts |
| 19:36.43 | kamdis | as long as Ufo's not spitting venom, we win imo. |
| 19:40.22 | Lunessa | wait... I need time to catch up. I haven't looked at the forums since 10pm last night. |
| 19:40.46 | kamdis | Profanity reporting addon thread |
| 19:41.12 | Lunessa | ok |
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| 19:42.30 | Lopeppeppy | I find it hilarioius and fun, that thread has potential. |
| 19:42.38 | malreth | not any more! |
| 19:42.40 | malreth | :D |
| 19:43.26 | Lunessa | reading it now. |
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| 19:45.08 | kamdis | I lovewhen he tells someone that profanity can only be offensive to someone because of his/her dirty minds. |
| 19:45.38 | kamdis | that part actually made me laugh out loud |
| 19:45.49 | Lopeppeppy | Hawt. So since I mostly don't find profanity offensive, I cannot possibly have a dirty mind! Whee, I'm safe! |
| 19:46.57 | kamdis | cheers! |
| 19:48.03 | Lopeppeppy | I love backward facing logic, people am SOOOOOO disappointing sometimes. |
| 19:48.23 | Valaron|Work | Hrmmm |
| 19:48.42 | malreth | no... THIS thread has potential: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4164428089&sid=1 |
| 19:48.54 | malreth | "Very often in the heat of battle it becomes difficult to press all my hot buttons " |
| 19:49.24 | Josh_Borke | why does putty have to use different keys that ssh? :-( |
| 19:49.51 | Lopeppeppy | malreth... ROFL |
| 19:50.41 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 19:50.46 | ralfWORK | tha can so be taken out of context |
| 19:51.27 | haste | Josh_Borke: what? |
| 19:51.34 | Lopeppeppy | Malreth meant it as a sign of affection, I'm sure. |
| 19:52.00 | zenzelezz | Josh_Borke: it does? |
| 19:52.14 | Josh_Borke | haste: i generated a key using putty-gen and it doesn't look like the keey i have for ssh-keygen |
| 19:52.46 | zenzelezz | but does it not work? |
| 19:52.57 | Josh_Borke | it works great for putty |
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| 19:53.03 | Josh_Borke | i haven't tried using it for ssh |
| 19:53.13 | zenzelezz | oh, you mean the actual "ssh" application? |
| 19:53.22 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 19:53.27 | zenzelezz | I thought you meant the protocol |
| 19:53.28 | kergoth | putty and openssh use different formats |
| 19:53.34 | kergoth | putty has a util to convert back and forth |
| 19:53.44 | kergoth | convert the putty keys to openssh keys and put them in your cygwin ~/.ssh/ |
| 19:53.55 | Josh_Borke | no putty here :-( |
| 19:54.14 | kergoth | download it, the util is a seperate binary on their site |
| 19:54.29 | Josh_Borke | s/putty/windows/ |
| 19:55.11 | Thunder_Child | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2831-Zero-Punctuation-The-Witcher At about 4:00 it changes, and becomes rather interesting |
| 19:55.17 | End | putty has been ported to *nix |
| 19:55.33 | End | (it uses gtk for the *nix port) |
| 19:55.43 | Josh_Borke | i'll just create another key :-P |
| 19:56.11 | Josh_Borke | what's the difference in using a dsa or rsa key? |
| 19:56.47 | malreth | i call my fiancee to let her know that our order is on the UPS truck and out for delivery now and she says, "You mean this UPS truck?" as if I could somehow see it through the phone... :p |
| 19:57.03 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, get new eyes! |
| 19:58.36 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, how sweet. It's nice to be noticed. |
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| 20:02.54 | Lunessa | malreth: Hahaha I can TOTALLY see her saying that. |
| 20:03.26 | malreth | i love her to death, i do |
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| 20:04.47 | Lopeppeppy | Reference above with the merlot, malreth. |
| 20:04.53 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/348628/marijuana-vending-machines-opening-for-business-in-la |
| 20:06.39 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 20:07.40 | Lopeppeppy | Hilarious. |
| 20:10.05 | Lunessa | OMFG. |
| 20:10.12 | Lunessa | That's ... classic. |
| 20:11.17 | malreth | i'd like to grow some hair back... :( |
| 20:11.45 | Lunessa | hah... You and me both mal, you and me both. |
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| 20:18.51 | malreth | hahah! the punchline to the profanity thread... OP: I'm going to call it "UFO Watcher" |
| 20:19.15 | kd3 | link? |
| 20:19.22 | malreth | if he does make the addon, that is the best name ever for it |
| 20:19.34 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4184979008&pageNo=4 |
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| 20:23.33 | cogwheel | this is awesome... |
| 20:23.44 | cogwheel | not one person has so far declined my invites to <Banker Toons> |
| 20:23.50 | cogwheel | we will take over the world some day! |
| 20:26.35 | Lunessa | banker toons! |
| 20:26.56 | Lunessa | "Your DNA must cry itself to sleep each night." ~malreth |
| 20:28.01 | malreth | i can't take credit for that line... it's actually from Coupling |
| 20:28.16 | Lunessa | Which episode? |
| 20:29.53 | malreth | i can't remember |
| 20:29.53 | malreth | steve says it to patrick |
| 20:30.50 | Lunessa | Now I need to go watch the DVDs again. |
| 20:31.47 | Saint-N | one thing that does spring to mind is that if damn is a bad word and "actionable" why does it appear randomly thorugh the world in npc emotes and such? |
| 20:32.18 | ralfWORK | I've always had that complaint :P |
| 20:32.24 | Saint-N | oh and if it partial matches imagine talking about grapse ;P |
| 20:32.31 | Saint-N | err grapes |
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| 20:32.59 | Saint-N | yeah man I got reported for saying that grapes are way better than damn's oranges |
| 20:33.06 | Saint-N | err dan's |
| 20:33.12 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 20:33.45 | Valaron|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.26 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:34.50 | Saint-N | although it would be good if this did get used |
| 20:35.07 | Saint-N | the flood of reports would skyrocket and blizz would make it so that you have to click something to report people |
| 20:35.14 | Saint-N | thus breaking it |
| 20:35.26 | Saint-N | and all those other pathetic auto reporting addons |
| 20:37.34 | malreth | Saint-N: that already happened |
| 20:37.40 | ralfWORK | I'd report NPCs if i could |
| 20:37.43 | malreth | back when spamsentry cam eout |
| 20:37.56 | malreth | that's why the ticket functions are protected now |
| 20:39.07 | Saint-N | oh |
| 20:39.13 | Saint-N | <-- up to date |
| 20:42.14 | malreth | that's why i told the guy pretty much right away that his idea wouldn't work |
| 20:42.36 | kam|afk | holy crap, Troodi posted in the profanity thread. |
| 20:46.52 | malreth | funny thing is people continue arguing over an addon that simply put, cannot work as they think it does |
| 20:47.49 | malreth | just shows how stupid the whole thing is |
| 20:48.45 | Lunessa | It's all "ZOMG UR gonna get me banded for uzin bad wird! Why U hazt0rz me, bish?" |
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| 20:49.30 | malreth | Lunessa: truthfully, it's not the DNA response that i'm proud of... it's the "with a partner" line that i like the most |
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| 20:50.07 | Lunessa | Yes, but I don't have one, so I'm ignoring the brilliance of that retort in envy. |
| 20:52.53 | malreth | ooops! http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/01/myspace_torrent |
| 20:56.22 | Lunessa | hah... this is why intimate photos should not be posted unless you don't care if they become public. |
| 20:57.19 | malreth | and that's also why peeners and faces shouldn't be shown in the same photo |
| 20:58.08 | Lunessa | To quote Steve from Coupling, "There shouldn't be blokes in porn. Only women!" |
| 20:58.35 | malreth | and Jeff's priceless, "Lesbians are porn efficient!" |
| 20:59.00 | Lunessa | How long to keys take? |
| 21:00.14 | Lunessa | The show really lost a lot of its character when Jeff was written out. |
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| 21:07.46 | ralfWORK | what is this "coupling" you speak of? |
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| 21:08.48 | kd3 | hilarious british comedy |
| 21:08.54 | ralfWORK | oh ok |
| 21:08.58 | ralfWORK | I don't like britcoms |
| 21:09.03 | ralfWORK | wife does :( |
| 21:09.11 | kd3 | think "friends" + sex |
| 21:09.18 | ralfWORK | mm k |
| 21:09.24 | ralfWORK | + brit accents |
| 21:09.25 | malreth | only actually funny |
| 21:09.36 | malreth | like side splitting funny |
| 21:09.41 | kd3 | ^ |
| 21:09.41 | ralfWORK | I hope the chicks are hotter |
| 21:09.42 | ralfWORK | much hotter |
| 21:09.47 | malreth | they are hot |
| 21:10.59 | malreth | in an interview, the show's creator said something like, "this show is impossibly unrealistic. no one in england is this attractive." |
| 21:11.20 | ralfWORK | ohhh |
| 21:11.29 | ralfWORK | "or has this many straight teeth"? |
| 21:11.55 | Lunessa | Jane is "give up a testicle" hot. |
| 21:12.26 | Lunessa | Susan is delicious in so many ways that words would not do her justice. |
| 21:12.43 | Lunessa | and Sarah is ... tasty in an understated way. |
| 21:13.00 | malreth | sally |
| 21:13.06 | Lunessa | Yeah, sorry. |
| 21:13.08 | Lunessa | Sally. |
| 21:13.16 | ralfWORK | hahaha |
| 21:13.39 | malreth | http://youtube.com/watch?v=WmokYt5kpNM |
| 21:13.45 | malreth | watch, that ralfWORK |
| 21:13.45 | Lunessa | And I forget the girl from Season 2 - Jeff's woman. |
| 21:14.26 | ralfWORK | who's the blonde, mal? |
| 21:14.40 | malreth | which one? :D |
| 21:14.42 | ralfWORK | hmm yea they are all hotter than friends |
| 21:14.52 | ralfWORK | the one with the pigtails in red sweater |
| 21:15.27 | malreth | the one talking or the one thinking |
| 21:15.27 | malreth | that's susan |
| 21:15.27 | malreth | steve's SO |
| 21:15.28 | malreth | steve is the guy talking |
| 21:15.43 | ralfWORK | k |
| 21:15.53 | malreth | played by Jack Davenport... you may have seen him in that Pirates movie |
| 21:16.12 | ralfWORK | ohhhh yea that's why he seems familiar |
| 21:16.16 | kd3 | ahaha... anyone hear about the mass effect "story" on fox news full of lies and a complete lack of the talking head doing her homework? |
| 21:16.48 | malreth | kd3: the one talked about on penny arcade? |
| 21:16.52 | foxlit | is it like that other story about mass effect? |
| 21:17.04 | foxlit | which is full of lies and a complete lack of the writing head doing his homework? |
| 21:17.12 | kd3 | ya |
| 21:17.22 | kd3 | apparently the talking head on fox news has got a book out... |
| 21:17.26 | kd3 | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1599211793/ref=cm_cr_mts_prod_img |
| 21:17.43 | Lunessa | Truth Snake ... brilliant humor. |
| 21:17.45 | kd3 | s/that/at/ |
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| 21:25.32 | krka | coupling ftw |
| 21:25.42 | malreth | "What in the name of God's ass is the purpose of potpourri? Looks like breakfast, smells like your auntie." |
| 21:25.45 | malreth | LAWLZ |
| 21:25.52 | malreth | i love that line |
| 21:26.19 | Lunessa | The show is totally brilliant. |
| 21:28.04 | malreth | so, ralfWORK, even though you don't like britcoms, think you'd give Coupling a watch? |
| 21:28.32 | krka | i generally don't like britcoms, but i love coupling |
| 21:28.38 | krka | my favorite comedy show ever |
| 21:29.04 | ralfWORK | malreth: chicks are hot |
| 21:29.12 | ralfWORK | I'd have to check it out later |
| 21:29.21 | malreth | my day is complete |
| 21:29.22 | ralfWORK | couldn't watch the clip with sound on |
| 21:30.10 | Thunder_Child | Coupling can go to hell |
| 21:30.44 | malreth | Thunder_Child: http://www.thijsverbeek.nl/index5.html |
| 21:31.49 | Thunder_Child | malreth, and? |
| 21:31.52 | ralfWORK | wtf? |
| 21:32.00 | ralfWORK | I don't even know if that's nsfw |
| 21:32.07 | malreth | it's sfw |
| 21:32.15 | ralfWORK | that's just... odd |
| 21:32.16 | malreth | not safe for your brain, tho |
| 21:32.28 | ralfWORK | bizarre even |
| 21:32.32 | Saint-N | that's some really flabby skin |
| 21:32.34 | Thunder_Child | i think they messed up on the 't', the rest looks fine though |
| 21:33.57 | |Jelly| | Split shifts are so zzzZzzZZZzZZZzzz |
| 21:35.21 | malreth | Sir, can I get some extra silverware? |
| 21:41.20 | |Jelly| | If you want it out of the dirty dishes, sure. |
| 21:46.35 | Thunder_Child | anyone know of a good space heater? |
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| 22:02.39 | |Jelly| | lol ... and not going back for the rest of my shift. |
| 22:02.51 | |Jelly| | Morons scheduling 21 servers on a Thursday. :| |
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| 22:03.30 | Lopeppeppy | Whee... check my knowledgebase. You cannot change targets in the middle of a /castsequence macro, correct? |
| 22:03.37 | kd3 | Thunder_Child, my case is proving to be a very good spaceheater... |
| 22:03.39 | kd3 | http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=40569-131-1360W&detail=&lpage=none |
| 22:03.48 | kd3 | lope; no. you can reset the sequence if you change targets, but that's about it |
| 22:06.07 | Thunder_Child | kd3, mine to, but it isnt for me |
| 22:06.28 | Thunder_Child | i ended up buying one already anyway |
| 22:07.02 | Thunder_Child | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16896101109 |
| 22:08.20 | Lopeppeppy | I have a space heater at work, my feet and hands F |
| 22:08.24 | Lopeppeppy | *FREEZE |
| 22:10.10 | Saint-N | of course they do you're female |
| 22:10.13 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, you feet and hands freeze with it or without it? |
| 22:10.17 | Saint-N | that means your blood by default is freon |
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| 22:11.16 | Saint-N | hey bitchcakes |
| 22:11.20 | Saint-N | is conspiracy done yet? |
| 22:11.49 | Lopeppeppy | No wai. |
| 22:12.12 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Lopeppeppy |
| 22:12.13 | purl | Lopeppeppy: Fail. |
| 22:12.59 | Thunder_Child | and yet another reason why you ~fail |
| 22:13.15 | Cidan | Saint-N: no, D: wtf |
| 22:13.17 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch? |
| 22:13.22 | Cidan | Saint-N: Working on it as we speak |
| 22:13.45 | Thunder_Child | Ouch? can be, depends how you take it |
| 22:13.53 | Lopeppeppy | I don't, really. |
| 22:15.59 | Lunessa | zomg y r u so mean. |
| 22:16.21 | Lopeppeppy | I know, huh? |
| 22:16.31 | Lopeppeppy | WTB unbroken Armory. |
| 22:16.59 | [Liquidor] | .999~ = 1 ? *lmao* |
| 22:17.16 | Lunessa | WTB more tanks and healers so I can raid with my enhancement shaman and not my priest. |
| 22:17.41 | Lopeppeppy | *hugs for Lunessa* |
| 22:17.55 | Lunessa | *smiles* |
| 22:18.23 | Thunder_Child | yes, yes i am mean |
| 22:22.35 | krka | [Liquidor]: what do you mean? |
| 22:23.25 | [Liquidor] | krka, don't bother :) |
| 22:23.57 | Thunder_Child | [Liquidor] ~= vaires from language to language |
| 22:24.35 | Thunder_Child | or is ~ used as repeating |
| 22:24.41 | [Liquidor] | Thunder_Child, altho I wasn't serious about it I'll just say that it isn' ~= but 0.999~ = |
| 22:25.06 | krka | 0.999~ = 1 threads are fun |
| 22:25.07 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok, that retarded old argument |
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| 22:33.51 | kamdis | Lunessa, did that guy *really* just ask how to ctrl-v? |
| 22:33.59 | Lunessa | Yes, he did. |
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| 22:34.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | QUICK, WHAT'S THE NUMBER FOR 911 |
| 22:34.23 | cogwheel | hai cladhaire |
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| 22:34.26 | Lopeppeppy | I think he really truly wanted to paste in/out of game, but I love Lunessa's response. |
| 22:34.39 | wereHamster | link? |
| 22:34.49 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4162888617&sid=1 |
| 22:34.52 | cogwheel | Lunessa: it's not command-V? |
| 22:35.03 | Lopeppeppy | Of did you want a link to 911, wereHamster? :P |
| 22:35.05 | Lunessa | Apple/Command same thing. |
| 22:35.14 | cogwheel | ah... i thought there was a separate apple |
| 22:35.19 | cladhaire | hai |
| 22:35.21 | cladhaire | i personally believe |
| 22:35.22 | wereHamster | no, the ctrl-v thing :) |
| 22:35.23 | cladhaire | that i am drunk |
| 22:35.25 | cladhaire | that some people out there don't have drunk |
| 22:35.27 | cladhaire | . |
| 22:35.32 | Shirik|Ghost | wtf? |
| 22:35.39 | cogwheel | Shirik|Ghost: i think he's drunk |
| 22:35.47 | clad|sleep | such as in south africa |
| 22:35.52 | clad|sleep | everywhere like such as and. |
| 22:36.02 | cogwheel | and iraq |
| 22:36.04 | clad|sleep | that drunk over here should help south africa, |
| 22:36.04 | Lunessa | clad|sleep: I should be drunk. |
| 22:36.10 | Saint-N | don't have drunk? |
| 22:36.13 | clad|sleep | i mean shoudl help the us and the iraq and the asian countries |
| 22:36.16 | clad|sleep | so we can build up the future |
| 22:36.18 | clad|sleep | for our children |
| 22:36.25 | Thunder_Child | ~drunk clad|office |
| 22:36.29 | Thunder_Child | boo |
| 22:36.31 | clad|sleep | OOH BURN |
| 22:36.39 | Thunder_Child | shoo |
| 22:36.42 | clad|sleep | way to tab complete my office persona |
| 22:36.44 | wereHamster | " After 2 hrs of searching I can not find the damn key combo to paste" - just copy the four last words into google and click the first hit?? |
| 22:37.10 | clad|sleep | ~google key combo to paste |
| 22:37.15 | clad|sleep | that should totally work |
| 22:37.16 | Saint-N | wereHamster: how's he supposed to copy it into google if hye can't paste ;P |
| 22:37.17 | wereHamster | .. or IOW, JFGI, or am I missing something? |
| 22:37.18 | clad|sleep | FU PURL |
| 22:37.42 | kamdis | Saint-N, excellent point |
| 22:37.49 | Lopeppeppy | I'll get drunk with you in.... 2 hours, Cladhaire! |
| 22:37.50 | cogwheel | clad|sleep: can i hav wut u hav |
| 22:38.21 | wereHamster | lol Saint-N, if he was able to write the whole sentense to the wow forums, he just as well might me able to write that to google.. |
| 22:39.23 | clad|sleep | i'm not really that drunk, sadly |
| 22:39.25 | clad|sleep | but.. pub golf. |
| 22:39.29 | clad|sleep | horrible idea :P |
| 22:39.51 | MentalPower|Gone | wwhat is pub golf? |
| 22:40.05 | clad|sleep | ~wiki pub gold |
| 22:40.07 | clad|sleep | ~wiki pub golf |
| 22:40.14 | clad|sleep | zomg. |
| 22:40.26 | clad|sleep | http://www.iloveuni.co.uk/uniguides/pub_golf.php |
| 22:40.56 | clad|sleep | a stupid game english people play, to drink absurd amounts of alcohol while embarassing yourself |
| 22:41.02 | Saint-N | wow clad fails on so many levels right now |
| 22:41.11 | Lopeppeppy | I have played that game in the states, different name, same rules. |
| 22:41.25 | Saint-N | Lopeppeppy: I believe that's called "girls night out" |
| 22:41.31 | Saint-N | umm |
| 22:41.37 | Josh_Borke | ~lart clad|sleep |
| 22:41.38 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of clad|sleep |
| 22:41.40 | Josh_Borke | wit this! |
| 22:41.46 | wereHamster | Until you swtich to Dvorak - that's why I use a layout that is both comfortable/efficient but at the same time preserves the most common shortcuts :) |
| 22:42.05 | Josh_Borke | huh? what about dvorak? |
| 22:42.32 | Saint-N | he was a crazy mofo |
| 22:42.51 | clad|sleep | goodnight all |
| 22:42.57 | Cairenn | night clad |
| 22:43.01 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep well, Cladhaire. |
| 22:43.07 | clad|sleep | night :P |
| 22:43.11 | Thunder_Child | ~lart clad|office |
| 22:43.11 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays clad|office in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 22:43.11 | Cairenn | make sure you drink lots of water and take some tylenol before you pass out |
| 22:43.13 | Thunder_Child | damit |
| 22:44.26 | MentalPower | night clad |
| 22:46.26 | cogwheel | \o/ |
| 22:46.32 | kamdis | heh |
| 22:46.49 | kamdis | Somehow I manage to feel guilty about it. |
| 22:47.13 | cogwheel | Josh_Borke: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4162888617&sid=1 |
| 22:48.22 | Cairenn | kamdis: I usually end up feeling guilty too, after I've been a complete bitch on the forums |
| 22:48.39 | Lunessa | kamdis: I want to be snarky and ask "today"? |
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| 22:55.14 | bleeter | can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the 'decreased load times' in 2.3.3 was a result of investigation of the WMP issue? |
| 22:55.21 | Lunessa | "Nothing like watching someone try to type on a QWERTY keyboard while windows is configured for Dvorak ;)" ~Cogwheel - Proof Positive that Gnomes are teh evilz. Blue Moon Ale on me for that line. |
| 22:55.49 | cogwheel | Lunessa: it's especially funny when it's your boss trying to log into your computer |
| 22:56.00 | Lunessa | Haha.... ! BRILLIANT |
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| 22:58.20 | Lunessa | Yeah, Blue Moon Ale + orange slices all around. |
| 22:58.40 | Valaron|Work | Num |
| 22:58.44 | batrick | Shirik|Ghost: ping |
| 22:58.50 | bleeter | hmm, maybe I should ask about the 'decreased load time' and WMP thingie in the Tech support forum. |
| 22:58.52 | Shirik|Ghost | batrick: pong |
| 22:59.08 | Lunessa | kamdis: Rip lol-boy a new orifice. |
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| 22:59.35 | batrick | i put some of batbot's code into your directory if you still want to look at it |
| 23:00.06 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm, beerz. |
| 23:00.21 | Saint-N | heh cog |
| 23:00.28 | Saint-N | I used to run darkstep on my work machines |
| 23:00.48 | Saint-N | watching the owner try and log into your machine and use the desktop without a start bar is quite amusing |
| 23:01.02 | Saint-N | specially when he's pissed at you and wants to delete stuff ;) |
| 23:01.10 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I highly recommend Blue Moon Ale. Very good, tasty. |
| 23:01.19 | kamdis | lol boy probably has enough orifices already |
| 23:01.31 | Saint-N | its even funnier when he follows you to the music machine as you're packing up your things and is helpless to stop you from typing zap 0 zap 1 zap 2 |
| 23:02.24 | cogwheel | Lunessa: bill coors buys our wine :P |
| 23:02.37 | cogwheel | (he's our owner/winemaker's uncle) |
| 23:03.04 | cogwheel | (blue moon is made by coors) |
| 23:03.14 | cogwheel | (in case you missed my train of thought) |
| 23:04.12 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not over-ly fond of beer, but I'm just... having a serious thirst today I think. |
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| 23:04.52 | cogwheel | Best. Beer. Evar. (Imo.) http://www.newbelgium.com/beers_bk.php |
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| 23:05.14 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I'm not a beer guy either, but this has a honey/oat aftertaste that I like. |
| 23:05.16 | bleeter | bollocks |
| 23:05.34 | bleeter | cogwheel: http://www.boags.com.au |
| 23:06.07 | bleeter | cogwheel: with http://www.cascadebrewery.com.au/ a close second |
| 23:06.16 | cogwheel | ~lart websites that play sounds by default |
| 23:06.16 | purl | slaps websites that play sounds by default upside the head with a wet fish |
| 23:06.36 | bleeter | ~lart web users who have sound on by default |
| 23:06.36 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P web users who have sound on by default' action |
| 23:07.04 | cogwheel | ~lart web browsers that don't have independent sound controls because i'm legitimately listening to other things |
| 23:07.05 | purl | plops web browsers that don't have independent sound controls because i'm legitimately listening to other things into a giant vat of herring |
| 23:07.32 | Wobwork | bleeter: have you tried that beezneez beer? |
| 23:07.36 | bleeter | cogwheel++ |
| 23:08.17 | bleeter | Wobwork: that's one of the matilda brews, isn't it.. nah, can't say I've tried |
| 23:08.30 | bleeter | Wobwork: should we push some Coopers onto cogwheel while we're at it? ;) |
| 23:08.56 | danslemur | I'm new to AddOn programming... is there any reason why the function inside the <OnLoad> tags of my addon's XML file wouldn't load at startup? |
| 23:09.04 | kamdis | Lunessa, LOL the guy though it was hearthstones |
| 23:09.13 | |Jelly| | I can't stay alive in Kara :( |
| 23:09.16 | cogwheel | danslemur: check Logs\FrameXML.log |
| 23:09.19 | danslemur | that XML file is listed in my addon's TOC file and they're all named the same |
| 23:09.21 | danslemur | ok |
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| 23:09.32 | cogwheel | it'll tell you if there are any errors in your XML |
| 23:09.58 | danslemur | awesome, that's good to know. let me take a look at it. |
| 23:10.10 | cogwheel | if nothing's there, put your toc & xml files up on pastey.net (link in the channel topic) |
| 23:10.55 | danslemur | sure enough, it says "Couldn't parse XML in Interface\AddOns\ResetWatcher\ResetWatcher.xml" |
| 23:11.09 | danslemur | not much more detail than that but at least I know where the problem is |
| 23:11.58 | Tem | danslemur, load your xml file in firefox |
| 23:11.59 | Lunessa | You know, when someone tries to add to a joke which has already run its course... it's just painful to watch. |
| 23:12.07 | Tem | it'll tell you where the parse error is |
| 23:13.34 | cogwheel | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN2423750920080124?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews |
| 23:15.51 | danslemur | Whoops! This is where I learn that XML tags are apparently case sensitive |
| 23:16.25 | danslemur | or maybe not. need to save my victory speech until things actually work... |
| 23:16.41 | Kaso | i like that cogwheel |
| 23:17.46 | danslemur | There we go! in my inclusion of the <script file="ResetWatcher.lua"> tag, I forgot to have a / at the end. I'm guessing that's syntax for ending a unary XML tag |
| 23:18.38 | danslemur | Knowing about trying out the XML file in the browser and the FrameXML.log file really helps for the future, thanks! |
| 23:19.21 | kamdis | gdi i hate that auto-away crap |
| 23:19.25 | kamdis | i'm here! |
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| 23:20.26 | zenzelezz | Reliquary of Souls is... interesting on the first night |
| 23:20.38 | Nebu1a | Is it poss to play a Combat spec Rogue with dual wield swords in low level PvP sucessfully ? |
| 23:20.44 | Nebu1a | coming upto the lvl 29 BG |
| 23:20.49 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-72-230-38-163.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:21.24 | kamdis | she should have thrown cookies imo |
| 23:21.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | normally i'd change my name to kisses and thank her |
| 23:21.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but she's not here so that doesn't work |
| 23:21.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 23:23.57 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: just change yer nick and wait for her to get back ;) |
| 23:24.12 | bleeter | then do some automsg foo stuff hehe |
| 23:25.07 | cogwheel | kamdis: or pies |
| 23:25.25 | kamdis | heh |
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| 23:28.28 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 23:28.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I love how when I log on, I get things like |
| 23:28.40 | Shirik|Ecole | (18:28:05) -› Unable to join #lua ([freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg) |
| 23:28.43 | Shirik|Ecole | Even though I join all the channels... |
| 23:28.58 | Lunessa | ... I like the idea of saving a kiss for later... kinky. |
| 23:29.05 | Shirik|Ecole | ?? |
| 23:29.14 | Shirik|Ecole | What did I miss |
| 23:29.57 | Wobwork | not much =P |
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| 23:30.42 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm totally glad I didn't miss clad|sleep though |
| 23:30.56 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: It totally wasn't me that time! |
| 23:30.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I promise |
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| 23:31.17 | batrick | I restarted it :P |
| 23:31.30 | batrick | i found a small security hole |
| 23:31.44 | Shirik|Ecole | You should add a HAM to it imo |
| 23:31.50 | batrick | HAM? |
| 23:31.55 | Shirik|Ecole | ~ham |
| 23:31.56 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ham is oink oink |
| 23:31.58 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 23:32.06 | Shirik|Ecole | who the hell wrote that |
| 23:32.10 | batrick | lmao |
| 23:32.11 | Cidan | what does UnitName("party1") return if party1 is invalid? |
| 23:32.17 | Cidan | nil again? |
| 23:32.21 | Cidan | or Unknown? |
| 23:32.23 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, HAM = High Availability Manager |
| 23:32.23 | batrick | it segfaults |
| 23:32.37 | Shirik|Ecole | It watches over processes and takes action when something goes wrong |
| 23:33.18 | Shirik|Ecole | in batbot's case that would likely be killing the Lua process and restarting it |
| 23:33.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i'm officially lame |
| 23:33.42 | Shirik|Ecole | you're a druid |
| 23:33.46 | Shirik|Ecole | your lame factor starts at 100 |
| 23:33.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just declined an invite to a strip club by my friends because it's too damn expensive |
| 23:34.02 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 23:34.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 23:34.33 | Lunessa | No, you are wise. |
| 23:34.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a cheap bastard |
| 23:35.06 | Lunessa | Perhaps, but I don't plan to cast aspersions on your parents. |
| 23:35.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it takes a bit more than some mammaries to make me cough up that kinda dough, especially when i've heard tales about some of the people that work there |
| 23:35.46 | Lunessa | <--- Used to be a strip joint dj |
| 23:35.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus they don't even serve alcohol, how good could it be |
| 23:36.02 | kamdis | eww no booze at a strip club? |
| 23:36.08 | kamdis | how could you stand to be there? |
| 23:36.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | (i'm not of legal age to drink yet, but seriously) |
| 23:36.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I can totally see Lunessa kicking it at a strip joint |
| 23:36.52 | Shirik|Ecole | tiesto style |
| 23:36.57 | nevcairiel | US is weird, you're not allowed to drink but you can visit strip clubs just fine? |
| 23:36.57 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 23:37.02 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 23:37.04 | Shirik|Ecole | 18/21 |
| 23:37.13 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: lemme guess, you're young enough to sign up, go overseas and die for your country, yet the won't sell you a beer? (I think this says a lot about US culture ;-) |
| 23:37.18 | bleeter | *yet they |
| 23:37.24 | Shirik|Ecole | bleeter: You're from the UK |
| 23:37.28 | Shirik|Ecole | You guys live on beer |
| 23:37.29 | batrick | lua task is so shitty |
| 23:37.31 | batrick | jeeze |
| 23:37.33 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: and you're from Canada |
| 23:37.35 | Lunessa | In many jurisdictions the laws about what you can see vs what you can consume are odd. |
| 23:37.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | bleeter, soldiers on base can drink at 18 :p |
| 23:38.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | as far as i know |
| 23:38.01 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't think I can take advice on who should and shouldn't drink from a brit |
| 23:38.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but still, 21 drinking age is retarded and most of america agrees |
| 23:38.24 | Shirik|Ecole | Okay I would also like to point out to everyone that seems to think this for whatever reason |
| 23:38.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | bleeter's from australia anyway, right? |
| 23:38.46 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: correct |
| 23:38.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was like "uk, waitaminnit" |
| 23:39.09 | danslemur | going on what Lunessa said, I know in a couple states you can either serve alcohol and the dancers wear bottoms or vice versa |
| 23:39.36 | bleeter | dancers serve bottoms and wear alcohol? |
| 23:39.41 | danslemur | maybe even tops, though I'm not up on my strip joint laws |
| 23:39.50 | kamdis | they vary by state |
| 23:39.54 | kamdis | afaik |
| 23:39.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | wearing alcohol is a great idea |
| 23:39.58 | kamdis | rofl |
| 23:39.58 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: huge commit incoming |
| 23:40.00 | danslemur | gay strip club doing body shots? |
| 23:40.02 | danslemur | it's possible |
| 23:40.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would like to subscribe to your newsletter bleeter |
| 23:40.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 23:40.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | that reminds me |
| 23:40.32 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: make me a coffee and a sammich, and I'll consider your application |
| 23:40.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a gay strip club in atlanta called swingin' richards |
| 23:40.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it makes me laugh every time i see the name |
| 23:41.13 | danslemur | I wonder how much can really go on in a gay strip club, considering it's already such a thin margin between what is at most gay bars friday/saturday nights and the actual legal restrictions |
| 23:41.24 | Lunessa | danslemur: Imagine where I live and you have a mix of rules that gets very arcane, depending on how much the local goventment doesn't want naked people on stage.=) |
| 23:41.25 | bleeter | there's a hotel in Amsterdam called 'Dikker and Thys' |
| 23:41.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know but laugh at the title |
| 23:41.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | because you know |
| 23:41.38 | danslemur | I mean, it's not uncommon to have men dancing in g-strings in clubs in Boys Town here in Chicago, so why would I go to a strip club? |
| 23:41.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | richard shortened = "dick" |
| 23:41.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | Swingin' Dicks |
| 23:42.00 | danslemur | Right |
| 23:42.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't get it at first, and once i did it cracked me up every time |
| 23:42.24 | danslemur | and I'm saying that these bars serve alcohol, prominently feature men in g-strings and they're sometimes sloppy about it |
| 23:42.42 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: You here? |
| 23:43.41 | danslemur | all I'm saying is, the cheaper way to go is skip Swingin' Richards and go to a bar |
| 23:43.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the same for straight strip clubs too |
| 23:44.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus the people running standard bars are usually a lot less shady |
| 23:44.45 | danslemur | and better music |
| 23:44.48 | danslemur | no offense Lunessa |
| 23:44.51 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: I'm opening up access to the Conspiracy SVN, anyone will be able to grab the newest code. |
| 23:44.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, this club has a terrible dj too i hear |
| 23:45.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | though that's a job i could definitely do |
| 23:45.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wouldn't complain a bit |
| 23:45.27 | Wobwork | Then again, there's Thailand. Where you often have no idea whether the dancer on the stage is a guy or a girl =) |
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| 23:45.37 | Lunessa | Mr_Rabies: Worst job I ever had. |
| 23:45.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | really/ |
| 23:45.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than the smoke i couldn't see it being bad at all |
| 23:46.11 | Wobwork | You'd get inured to the view after a while, I'm sure |
| 23:46.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean sure you get to see some fuglies occasionally |
| 23:46.38 | Wobwork | cause you're in there long enough to realise how bored the dancers really are =P |
| 23:47.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i've been to 4chan enough to be pretty jaded in that regard |
| 23:47.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry |
| 23:47.02 | danslemur | and their marital/dating/childcare/tax issues |
| 23:47.11 | batrick | so apparently i broke batbot |
| 23:47.13 | batrick | awesome |
| 23:47.22 | Wobwork | domestic abuse =( |
| 23:47.34 | bleeter | oddly enough, the only strip club we have in my city is one in a building that has been rented from the Catholic Church and they're not too happy about it, always trying to get the club closed down |
| 23:48.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha bleeter |
| 23:48.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | well this isn't "in my city" |
| 23:48.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's about an hour drive or so |
| 23:48.42 | danslemur | they're only putting in the effort for show though, the rent they're paying is too good |
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| 23:48.51 | danslemur | damned corrupt Catholic church... |
| 23:48.55 | Lunessa | Mr_Rabies: lets just say you're not dealing with top-teir people in this environment and you're exposed to stories and lives that will make your brain and your empathy hurt. |
| 23:49.11 | danslemur | Lunessa: sounds like being on IRC |
| 23:49.13 | danslemur | zing! |
| 23:49.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | my empathy engine was incomplete when i was released |
| 23:49.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm terrible at it |
| 23:49.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | though my apathy engine is top of the line |
| 23:49.50 | zenzelezz | the neural network also seems flawed |
| 23:50.20 | Wobwork | I couldn't care enough to get my apathy engine fixed =\ |
| 23:50.35 | Wobwork | It could be that it's running fine |
| 23:50.40 | Wobwork | but I couldn't be arsed to check =P |
| 23:50.41 | bleeter | Wobwork: Interested in Apathy? ;) |
| 23:50.41 | Lunessa | One night, on one of my last shifts as a manager, a 21 year old girl was forcibly sodomized by a customer. It was loud, no one heard her. She had made the switch from being a waitress to an entertainer earlier that week. It was... awful. |
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| 23:53.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | bet that was a pain in the ass |
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| 23:53.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm terrible |
| 23:53.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 23:53.28 | sdouble | as am I, I laughed at your comment. |
| 23:53.33 | sdouble | And I feel dirty. |
| 23:53.37 | Shirik|Ghost | Hey batrick |
| 23:53.41 | Shirik|Ghost | remember when I said that you need a HAM? |
| 23:53.45 | Shirik|Ghost | That's what our GD IT department needs |
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| 23:54.13 | Lunessa | In this same club, one of the bartenders put cleaning fluid in a drink 'as a joke' - my trip to the emergency room was no joke. This is why I don't work in that field now, despite the easy availability of jobs. The agony isn't worth seeing boobies for free at work. :P |
| 23:54.50 | Valaron|Work | Boobies? |
| 23:54.51 | sdouble | The trick: bring your own food/drink and see boobies for free. |
| 23:55.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | Shirik|Ecole |
| 23:55.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzHaFRnPSh4 |
| 23:55.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's so blurry |
| 23:55.30 | danslemur | cleaning fluid as in GHB? |
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| 23:56.17 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyway as I was sayingggggg |
| 23:56.21 | Lunessa | cleaning fluid as is industrial saop |
| 23:56.21 | Wobwork | or Draino |
| 23:56.30 | Cairenn | ... |
| 23:56.45 | danslemur | oh. because there is a cleaning fluid that metabolizes to GHB. you know, as a date rape drug. |
| 23:56.47 | Wobwork | It's Blue Curacao really |
| 23:57.04 | Wobwork | (with added death) |
| 23:57.05 | danslemur | sounds like he picked the wrong one |
| 23:57.07 | Shirik|Ecole | hi Cairenn! |
| 23:57.13 | batrick | wonderful |
| 23:57.16 | Lunessa | So, yeah. I don't mind if others want to work in the field - enjoy. Just saying it was the worst job I ever had. |
| 23:57.28 | batrick | so apparently i can't change the environment of an iterator returned by gmatch |
| 23:57.40 | Shirik|Ecole | ownded |
| 23:58.14 | batrick | that's really bad |
| 23:58.17 | Shirik|Ecole | so was that the security hole? |
| 23:58.23 | batrick | well yes |
| 23:59.38 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide is unfortunately immune |
| 23:59.42 | Shirik|Ecole | damn python escaping |
