| 00:01.23 | batrick | !g shirik |
| 00:01.23 | batrick | O.o |
| 00:01.24 | batbot | batrick: shirik on deviantART <http://shirik.deviantart.com/> |
| 00:01.35 | Shirik | yeah no |
| 00:01.36 | Shirik | that's not me |
| 00:01.40 | Shirik | what's there anyway? |
| 00:01.46 | batrick | i dunno |
| 00:01.49 | Shirik | my deviantart is http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com |
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| 00:11.41 | art3mis | woo |
| 00:11.47 | art3mis | relentless earthstorm diamond for me |
| 00:12.00 | cog|work | W |
| 00:12.02 | cog|work | T |
| 00:12.04 | cog|work | F |
| 00:12.06 | cog|work | ?? |
| 00:12.08 | cog|work | http://techdirt.com/articles/20080124/16382062.shtml |
| 00:12.18 | cog|work | This is why I'm philosophically opposed to patents |
| 00:12.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I'm reading that now |
| 00:13.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Good times |
| 00:13.23 | cog|work | And the fact that all of these companies were successfully selling smartphones illustrates exactly that patents are unnecessary for their intended purpose... people innovate with or without them |
| 00:13.43 | Shirik | I love this show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84_QL1kEmH4 |
| 00:14.39 | Esamynn|Work | cog|work: patents in and of themselves are a useful tool, but they are *VERY BADLY* abused :( |
| 00:14.44 | ScytheBlade1 | "The broadest claim appears directed to a cellphone with a wireless internet connection, a memory card, a microprocessor, a display panel for displaying internet data." |
| 00:14.44 | art3mis | its really confuses me how someone can patent something that board long after they've existed as tech |
| 00:15.03 | Esamynn|Work | they were orignially meant for really unique and new ideas |
| 00:15.09 | cog|work | Esamynn|Work: actually, no one knows whether they're extremely useful |
| 00:15.18 | cog|work | because everywhere has them |
| 00:15.27 | art3mis | dot you have to be the creator of them i order to own the patent? |
| 00:15.29 | art3mis | dot |
| 00:15.35 | cog|work | art3mis: no |
| 00:15.45 | art3mis | thats stupid |
| 00:15.48 | Esamynn|Work | indeed |
| 00:15.49 | cog|work | you just have to be the first to patent it |
| 00:16.36 | cog|work | Doubtless, the economy would be different without patents, but we sure as hell wouldn't be worse off |
| 00:16.37 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=430698&cid=22188618 |
| 00:16.42 | cog|work | and consumers would definitely be better off |
| 00:16.42 | |pez| | I doubt they'll actually get anywhere with sueing(?) the people who've already made phones though. :P |
| 00:16.48 | art3mis | you should have to be able top prove that its your concept and design as well as build the prototype |
| 00:16.51 | Esamynn|Work | I think a patent should be invalid if it can be proven you didn't come up with the idea yourself |
| 00:17.24 | Shirik | It is |
| 00:17.46 | Shirik | That's why companies have to make tons of logs and everything |
| 00:17.46 | cog|work | Why should some piece of paper gathering dust in an office somewhere on the other side of the country tell me that I can't put my own materials together in some particular arrangement? |
| 00:17.50 | Shirik | for the two months I worked at crayola I wrote nearly 300 pages of logs |
| 00:17.51 | cog|work | without giving some guy some money? |
| 00:17.56 | Shirik | Just for patenting reasons |
| 00:18.00 | art3mis | im fairly certain that ANY sane judge will go "so you wana patent "smartphones" 5 years after they were made marketed and sold yet had nothing to do with the design? case dismissed" |
| 00:18.21 | Esamynn|Work | the original idea behind patents was to prevent copying |
| 00:18.40 | Esamynn|Work | not to prevent you from coming up with your own ideas |
| 00:18.49 | art3mis | well the lightbulb or the phone cant remember which |
| 00:18.57 | cog|work | Esamynn|Work: that's what i mean... |
| 00:18.58 | art3mis | as wella s a fwe math forumals |
| 00:19.00 | cog|work | if you patent a square |
| 00:19.05 | art3mis | thats where it mostly started |
| 00:19.10 | cog|work | i have to pay you to arrange the pencils on my desk in a square |
| 00:19.19 | cog|work | (obviously oversimplified example) |
| 00:19.19 | Esamynn|Work | which is stupid |
| 00:19.35 | cog|work | government granted monopolies are always 4tl |
| 00:19.41 | cog|work | no matter what their intended purpose |
| 00:19.47 | art3mis | of course one could argue that the patent is void as it already describes laptops and palm tops ;P |
| 00:19.48 | Esamynn|Work | patents only last 20 years though |
| 00:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 00:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Er never mind, ignore me |
| 00:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I was thinking copyright |
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| 00:20.24 | art3mis | that is a pretty lucrative busioness too |
| 00:20.28 | Esamynn|Work | aye, copyright, is what 100 years? |
| 00:20.32 | art3mis | waiting for the second a patent lapses |
| 00:20.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Copyright is death + some odd years iirc |
| 00:20.51 | Iriel | The patent trolls hope that the companies settle because it's usually cheaper than fighting it in court (due to the rather odd way that the legal system works in the US) |
| 00:20.54 | Esamynn|Work | yah, I forget |
| 00:21.02 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: It's "as many years as walt disney has been dead" |
| 00:21.12 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 00:21.12 | art3mis | laugh |
| 00:21.15 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 00:21.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: yeah, I read the book too. ;) |
| 00:21.22 | art3mis | walt isnt dead! he's just napping |
| 00:21.22 | Esamynn|Work | what book is this? |
| 00:21.25 | ScytheBlade1 | He isn't kidding |
| 00:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec |
| 00:21.29 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart3mis |
| 00:21.29 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 00:21.34 | art3mis | he is |
| 00:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.free-culture.cc/index.html |
| 00:21.43 | Iriel | Since if you sue me for something stupid, I have to pay my lawyers fees, but I can sue you back to covert that, but there's no guarantee i'll win the latter. |
| 00:21.45 | art3mis | once the jews are gone they'll defrost him ;P |
| 00:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ that book |
| 00:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Great book on copyright, piracy, the media, etc |
| 00:22.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Free .pdf download too! |
| 00:22.08 | kamdis | Iriel "rather odd way the legal system works in the US" is being quite generous, imo. |
| 00:22.12 | Iriel | I actually didn't read that book, it's just how it works, every time disney stuff is about to go into the public domain they extend the copright. |
| 00:22.20 | cog|work | (sp?) |
| 00:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: you deserved it |
| 00:22.22 | Iriel | kamdis: I have to live here, dont want to offend the locals too much |
| 00:22.25 | art3mis | what does the barcode say? |
| 00:22.30 | kamdis | haha, i'm a local |
| 00:22.31 | art3mis | next to Welcome |
| 00:22.39 | kamdis | and work in law |
| 00:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a really good book on the matter. It covers Walt Disney in great detail. |
| 00:22.50 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.free-culture.cc/freeculture.pdf |
| 00:22.57 | Iriel | Lessig is one of the experts, so that's no suprise |
| 00:23.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 00:23.27 | Iriel | My reading stack is already full with In Defense of Food, Twisty little passages, and eventually finishing Democracy in America |
| 00:23.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 00:23.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Well now throw a PDF on top of it ;) |
| 00:23.57 | art3mis | America the book was awesome |
| 00:24.23 | art3mis | i need to got o the library sometime and catch up on my science books |
| 00:24.28 | foxlit | I am ... and so can you? |
| 00:24.34 | art3mis | thats colberts |
| 00:24.45 | art3mis | american the book was stewarts about 2-3 years ago |
| 00:25.03 | foxlit | "America the book" or "American the book"? |
| 00:25.24 | cog|work | "Of Patents and Pooper-Scoopers" http://www.lewrockwell.com/decoster/decoster61.html |
| 00:25.28 | cog|work | XD |
| 00:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:25.53 | art3mis | http://www.amazon.com/Daily-Show-Stewart-Presents-America/dp/0446532681 <-- foxlit |
| 00:26.15 | Iriel | So far this is very good, by the way: http://www.michaelpollan.com/indefense.php |
| 00:26.38 | bleeter | Wobin: GO GET A BEER IN YA COBBER!!!! WOOTZ!!!! |
| 00:26.40 | bleeter | etc. etc. etf. |
| 00:26.41 | bleeter | c |
| 00:27.25 | foxlit | wanted to buy colbert's book... but it turns out it's not going to be sold here until april |
| 00:28.20 | art3mis | gasp!! |
| 00:31.46 | Shirik | "In the so-called Western diet, food has been replaced by nutrients, and common sense by confusion. The result is what Michael Pollan calls the American paradox: The more we worry about nutrition, the less healthy we seem to become." |
| 00:31.49 | Shirik | That's an interesting statement. |
| 00:32.35 | kergoth | ot, but anyone have any brilliant ideas for a name for my hunter's white wind serpent? |
| 00:32.52 | |pez| | Slinky |
| 00:33.10 | Iriel | Wishbone |
| 00:33.13 | art3mis | Spermy! |
| 00:33.57 | |pez| | I call my pets stuff like.. Bait and Decoy. |
| 00:34.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:34.43 | art3mis | "Im With Stupid" |
| 00:34.47 | art3mis | best pet name ;P |
| 00:35.04 | kergoth | hahah |
| 00:35.05 | |pez| | One of the folks in my guild called his pet "DontPokeMe |
| 00:35.39 | Esamynn|Work | my hunter alt has a Boar pet named Fener (/me wonders how many will recognize the source of the name) |
| 00:36.51 | art3mis | the guy with the Im With Stupid his hunters name was SThompson |
| 00:37.04 | Esamynn|Work | lol] |
| 00:37.27 | art3mis | i think that and BubbleoSeven are my fav names |
| 00:39.18 | art3mis | http://bitcast-a.bitgravity.com/beta/demo/index.html |
| 00:41.34 | Paradox | isn't it the other way around? |
| 00:41.39 | Paradox | <Shirik> "In the so-called Western diet, food has been replaced by nutrients, and common sense by confusion. The result is what Michael Pollan calls the American paradox: The more we worry about nutrition, the less healthy we seem to become." |
| 00:41.48 | kergoth | pet names, my old scorpid i named George. the cat was Bob. and the boar was Razorback |
| 00:43.13 | art3mis | scorpid iPinch |
| 00:43.22 | art3mis | cat iPurr |
| 00:43.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:43.36 | art3mis | boar GreenEggs |
| 00:43.40 | laindir | tallstrider: Camilla |
| 00:43.50 | Shirik|AFK | (19:43:41) -› [notice from NickServ]: This nickname is owned by someone else |
| 00:43.51 | Shirik|AFK | DIE |
| 00:44.02 | Shirik|AFK | I misspell something for 2 seconds and you forget who I am |
| 00:44.13 | art3mis | whaaa? |
| 00:44.22 | art3mis | who aaarrree yoooou |
| 00:44.31 | art3mis | ^^ like the old mongolian guy from Conan |
| 00:45.36 | art3mis | Paging Jenny Talls; paging Ms. Jenny Talls... |
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| 00:51.24 | Shirik|AFK | Iriel: ping |
| 00:55.05 | Duman | god damn this rain needs to stop |
| 00:55.12 | Duman | I pay my california "no rain plz" tax |
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| 00:57.21 | Shirik|AFK | Don't be a girlyman! |
| 00:57.59 | Shirik|AFK | sorry, your governor distrcated me |
| 00:58.03 | Shirik|AFK | distracted |
| 00:58.09 | Shirik|AFK | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUzUbtIptqQ |
| 00:58.33 | batrick | ur fase |
| 01:00.46 | Iriel | Shirik|AFK: Yes? |
| 01:00.53 | Shirik|AFK | I was wondering |
| 01:01.02 | Shirik|AFK | What is this coroutine that is to be passed to debugstack() supposed to do? |
| 01:01.57 | Iriel | I would expect it to give you the stack for the specified coroutine's current state |
| 01:02.25 | Iriel | i.e the stack you'd get if you called debugstack within the coroutine |
| 01:02.56 | Iriel | But without a PTR to try it with, thats an informed guess |
| 01:03.38 | Shirik|AFK | I was really curious that if a coroutine errors, the call to coroutine.resume() would trap it. I was hoping this would allow us to find out where the error occurred |
| 01:03.41 | Shirik|AFK | but I guess we'll find out |
| 01:04.08 | batrick | the stack isn't unwound when a coroutine errors |
| 01:04.16 | batrick | so debugstack will let you look at it |
| 01:05.42 | art3mis | http://i25.tinypic.com/732wq0.jpg <-- heh looks like the bad botters are in for an upcoming banwave ;P |
| 01:07.18 | Cairenn | hah! excellent! |
| 01:07.58 | batrick | Cairenn just wishes she could hand out the bans herself |
| 01:08.38 | Esamynn|Work | sweetness! |
| 01:09.27 | Cairenn | damn right I do |
| 01:09.29 | Shirik|AFK | !google eagle card |
| 01:09.30 | batbot | Shirik|AFK: Product search results for eagle card <http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=eagle+card&um=1&ie=UTF-8> |
| 01:09.35 | Shirik|AFK | wtf |
| 01:09.46 | Shirik|AFK | batrick get these product search result crap out :P |
| 01:09.47 | Duman | ok, this 'Philo' poster is annoying me |
| 01:09.55 | Duman | seems like he was annoying Cog, earlier |
| 01:10.05 | batrick | every time i think i got it fixed |
| 01:10.19 | Shirik|AFK | ~hug batrick |
| 01:10.19 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs batrick |
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| 01:12.08 | Shirik|AFK | lol ETA's down. Guess nobody's flying tonight. |
| 01:13.08 | Duman | bwahahah: http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/425997 |
| 01:14.21 | Shirik|AFK | I don't find it that funny |
| 01:14.32 | Shirik|AFK | If he had been assaulting police officers I'd probably do that too |
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| 01:15.39 | batrick | !g eagle card |
| 01:15.40 | batbot | batrick: Eagle Card introduction, Daytona Beach, Fla. Embry-Riddle ... <http://www.erau.edu/db/eaglecard/index.html> |
| 01:15.47 | Shirik|AFK | much better |
| 01:15.50 | Shirik|AFK | except I already found the page |
| 01:15.52 | Shirik|AFK | but thanks anyway |
| 01:15.58 | batrick | ur welcome! |
| 01:16.48 | batrick | hmm |
| 01:17.43 | Shirik|AFK | =( My credit card expires next month |
| 01:17.52 | |pez| | need new credit card then! |
| 01:17.53 | Shirik|AFK | No more online ordering without having to take out my card because I have the number memorized.... |
| 01:17.59 | batrick | i never get bored watching batman 2 trailor |
| 01:18.01 | buu | Shirik|AFK: You don't keep the number? |
| 01:18.04 | kd3 | whee for installing f8 from scratch... 398 packages to update. ~680MB |
| 01:18.06 | Shirik|AFK | I doubt it |
| 01:18.08 | Shirik|AFK | I dunno though |
| 01:18.26 | kd3 | why the hell didn't I clone updates before I did an install? gah |
| 01:18.39 | Shirik|AFK | ok gotta run |
| 01:18.42 | Taurmindo | anyone know if it's possible to have a row break in a text string in pitbull, which uses dogtag? something like <br> or \n or similar? |
| 01:18.49 | Taurmindo | \n didn't actually work. :/ |
| 01:19.18 | Shirik|AFK | batrick, I got a mail from the team |
| 01:19.25 | dylanm | I don't think you can do that. |
| 01:19.30 | Shirik|AFK | "Yes, sorry, it was too late for 5.1.3. It will be addressed in 5.2. " |
| 01:20.17 | batrick | ic |
| 01:21.18 | batrick | i really need to add some sort of reload operator for batbot |
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| 01:25.43 | Cidan | Taurmindo: You can't have line breaks in WoW fontstrings |
| 01:25.55 | Cidan | Taurmindo: This is across all fontstrings in WoW |
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| 01:32.16 | Tem | I whistled for a cab and when it came near, the liscence plate said "Fresh" and it had dice in mirror |
| 01:33.02 | Cairenn | I saw the funniest licence plate this evening - "XML Guru" |
| 01:33.16 | Cairenn | yes, I'm serious, it did actually say that |
| 01:33.54 | Tem | 4 GNMRGN |
| 01:36.09 | bleeter | Wobin: VEGEMITE SAMMICH NOW!!!! |
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| 01:37.04 | bleeter | hey tuller :) |
| 01:37.17 | Tuller | hello |
| 01:37.20 | bleeter | your svn moves... confounded me yesterday for a little while. all fixed my side tho :) |
| 01:37.23 | Tuller | new compy back in business, yay |
| 01:37.28 | bleeter | wootz! |
| 01:37.49 | Tuller | i'm poindering if it'll make things better or worse for things like wuu |
| 01:41.38 | Corrodias | your leet SVN moves |
| 01:41.50 | Corrodias | there are no counters to moves like that |
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| 01:44.02 | Shirik|Ecole | BUILD FAILED (total time: 1,179 minutes 18 seconds) |
| 01:44.13 | Shirik|Ecole | Note to self: Do not put computer into hibernate while a compilation is in progress |
| 01:44.46 | |Jelly| | ~fail Shirik|Ecole |
| 01:44.47 | purl | Shirik|Ecole: Fail. |
| 01:45.16 | Tuller | nice |
| 01:47.00 | Esamynn|Work | ~laugh Shirik|Ecole |
| 01:47.01 | purl | ibot laughs hysterically at Shirik|Ecole...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 01:52.08 | Shirik|Ecole | ibot? |
| 01:52.13 | Shirik|Ecole | wrong name purl! |
| 01:52.20 | Xinhuan | BUILD FAILED (total time: 1,179 minutes 18 seconds) |
| 01:52.31 | Xinhuan | 1179 minutes is 19.65 hours |
| 01:52.33 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 01:53.22 | foxlit | why would hibernation crash a build? |
| 01:54.37 | Shirik|Ecole | Well it didn't |
| 01:55.03 | foxlit | just the wrong duration, then? |
| 01:55.26 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 01:55.33 | Shirik|Ecole | is there any way to determine what process has a COM port open? |
| 01:55.51 | Iriel | dunno, does your OS have a lsof command or equivalent? |
| 01:56.48 | Xinhuan | ["length"] = nil --[[ inf ]], |
| 01:56.58 | Xinhuan | meh, blizzard's Savedvar files doesn't save +inf or -inf values |
| 01:57.20 | Xinhuan | don't see why it would be hard to write "1/0" or "-1/0" instead of a "nil" |
| 01:57.24 | Corrodias | what do you mean, +inf and -inf? |
| 01:57.42 | Xinhuan | i mean exactly what i said, Corrodias |
| 01:57.51 | Xinhuan | positive infinity, negative infinity |
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| 01:57.58 | con-man | hey hey |
| 01:58.00 | Arrowmaster | 1/0 ~= inf |
| 01:58.00 | con-man | its Stufoo |
| 01:58.05 | con-man | khiara |
| 01:58.06 | con-man | ? |
| 01:58.15 | Xinhuan | its a number |
| 01:58.19 | Xinhuan | it'll be parsed as such |
| 01:58.19 | con-man | or shizen I guess |
| 01:58.43 | Corrodias | i see |
| 01:58.47 | Shirik|Ecole | Arrowmaster: From the right side it is, and that's all Lua cares about it seems |
| 01:58.47 | Xinhuan | 1/0 == +inf |
| 01:59.22 | foxlit | do we subscribe to that axiom? |
| 01:59.24 | Xinhuan | well blizz could have written the SV as |
| 01:59.24 | con-man | Luminax: hey! |
| 01:59.26 | batrick | explain how 0 goes positively or negatively into a number :) |
| 01:59.30 | Xinhuan | ["length"] = 1/0 |
| 01:59.31 | con-man | Luminax: its stufoo |
| 01:59.33 | Xinhuan | rather than |
| 01:59.34 | Xinhuan | ["length"] = nil --[[ inf ]] |
| 01:59.42 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick, you took signals and systems, I know you know calculus |
| 01:59.51 | batrick | so? |
| 01:59.58 | Shirik|Ecole | so you can derive 1/0 by yourself :P |
| 02:00.06 | batrick | u only need long division |
| 02:00.13 | batrick | question still stands :) |
| 02:00.46 | Xinhuan | 1/0 is just a convenient representation for +inf |
| 02:00.52 | Xinhuan | you don't actually divide anything by 0! |
| 02:01.08 | batrick | sure you do |
| 02:01.08 | foxlit | (queue 0! division joke) |
| 02:01.08 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.huge |
| 02:01.08 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: inf |
| 02:01.44 | Cide | 0! = 1 |
| 02:01.54 | Cide | dividing by 0! thus does nothing |
| 02:02.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Xinhuan: Division by zero can actually be useful |
| 02:02.27 | Shirik|Ecole | as odd as it may sound |
| 02:02.45 | Xinhuan | oh it sure can, i'm just meh-ing at why blizzard doesn't save +inf or -inf |
| 02:02.59 | Shirik|Ecole | FATAL ERROR Nu |
| 02:03.02 | Corrodias | how very odd. |
| 02:03.08 | Shirik|Ecole | Screw not having enough space onthe Lcd screen |
| 02:03.15 | Shirik|Ecole | luckily I know "Nu" is "NullPointerException" cut off |
| 02:03.33 | Xinhuan | it could be "Nub detected" |
| 02:03.34 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 02:03.38 | batrick | unless it's the dreaded NullThreadException!!! |
| 02:03.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I like my flashing red lights though |
| 02:04.01 | Shirik|Ecole | that totally works |
| 02:04.17 | Shirik|Ecole | btw, batrick, you'll get a kick out of this |
| 02:04.26 | Shirik|Ecole | EE lab yesterday, we had to hook up a lightbulb to a circuit, no big deal |
| 02:04.36 | Shirik|Ecole | We found this little thing that looked like a lightbulb and hooked it up |
| 02:04.55 | batrick | wondered why the diode didn't work eh |
| 02:04.57 | batrick | err |
| 02:04.59 | batrick | lightbulb |
| 02:05.08 | Shirik|Ecole | 1V, 600mA and it was getting really hot. Unfortunately I told them to keep turning up the voltage because lightbulbs have high current |
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| 02:05.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I did make a comment that the really dim glow did look like a LED though |
| 02:05.47 | Shirik|Ecole | at 2V it blew out, but it was so fun shoving 1A through a LED... I didn't know they could take that abuse |
| 02:05.57 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually I don't even think it was an LED |
| 02:06.12 | Shirik|Ecole | (1) it shouldn't get hot and (2) it shouldn't be that low voltage. But we'll never know what it was :P |
| 02:06.13 | batrick | nice |
| 02:12.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I love how Java won't let you compile your code if it has unreachable statements |
| 02:12.41 | Shirik|Ecole | but it's perfectly ok to do while(this != null) in the middle of your code |
| 02:15.08 | Corrodias | are you sure it won't let you compile? that seems contrary to my memory |
| 02:15.13 | Corrodias | it was a warning as i recall |
| 02:17.19 | MentalPower | lua> local bar = 0 local function foo(...) bar = select("#", ...) return foo(1,...) end foo(1) |
| 02:17.25 | lua_bot | MentalPower: sandbox.lua:166: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 02:17.46 | MentalPower | lua> bar = 0 local function foo(...) bar = select("#", ...) return foo(1,...) end foo(1) |
| 02:17.52 | lua_bot | MentalPower: sandbox.lua:166: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 02:17.54 | MentalPower | lua> print(bar) |
| 02:17.55 | lua_bot | MentalPower: nil |
| 02:18.11 | MentalPower | --> bar = 0 local function foo(...) bar = select("#", ...) return foo(1,...) end foo(1) |
| 02:18.17 | batbot | MentalPower: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 02:18.20 | MentalPower | -->print(bar) |
| 02:18.21 | batbot | MentalPower: nil |
| 02:20.11 | MentalPower | bat = true |
| 02:20.15 | MentalPower | -->bat = true |
| 02:20.18 | MentalPower | print(bat) |
| 02:20.22 | MentalPower | -->print(bat) |
| 02:20.22 | batbot | MentalPower: true |
| 02:21.01 | Shirik|Ecole | Corrodias: Definitely won't let me compile |
| 02:21.15 | MentalPower | -->local function foo(...) bat = select("#", ...) return foo(1,...) end foo(1) |
| 02:21.20 | batbot | MentalPower: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 02:21.26 | MentalPower | -->print(bat) |
| 02:21.27 | batbot | MentalPower: nil |
| 02:21.28 | Shirik|Ecole | C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\NetBeansProjects\intellibrain\src\erau\intellibrain\client\Client.java:298: unreachable statement |
| 02:21.28 | Shirik|Ecole | IntelliBrain.getLcdDisplay().print(1, "HEAD: "+head+" TAIL: "+tail); |
| 02:21.28 | Shirik|Ecole | 1 error |
| 02:21.28 | Shirik|Ecole | BUILD FAILED (total time: 0 seconds) |
| 02:21.39 | MentalPower | fine, I'll do it locally :P |
| 02:22.37 | foxlit | if (true) return |
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| 02:44.15 | bleeter | what gives with Blizz's network timeout code. It'd appear that 15 mins ago, my interwebz connection got a reset, yet the game hasn't disconnected me yet :/ |
| 02:44.31 | bleeter | (something I've always wondered about, figured I might actually ask around this time) |
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| 02:49.35 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: blizzard uses Optimistic Fuck Youâ„¢ algorithms. The game will only disconnect you at the most inconvenient times, and will attempt to pretend your still in the game at all costs. |
| 02:50.59 | Shirik|Ecole | bleeter: It probably uses the Windows timeout proceedure, which is very ... not complex |
| 02:51.10 | Shirik|Ecole | if you're getting any data in at all, even if one byte per second |
| 02:51.15 | Shirik|Ecole | it's acceptable |
| 02:51.50 | Shirik|Ecole | so if your connection is very very slow, instead of actually reset, it still counts |
| 02:52.47 | Shirik|Ecole | or maybe the code looks for a RST from the server... if the server still thinks you're connected, the program may not get anything from the server but it also won't be told to reset the connection, so it still thinks you're connected |
| 02:53.06 | Shirik|Ecole | these are all just guesses, obviously |
| 02:55.30 | NightHawkTheSane | i like mine better |
| 02:58.21 | Shirik|Ecole | oops |
| 02:58.26 | Shirik|Ecole | I killed the JVM o.o |
| 02:58.56 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 02:59.03 | Shirik|Ecole | my code keeps crashing the JVM... this can't be goo |
| 02:59.05 | Shirik|Ecole | good |
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| 03:07.38 | Wobin | bleeter: I had a lamington, what about you? =) |
| 03:07.42 | Wobin | Happy Australia Day! |
| 03:07.59 | Shirik|Ecole | australia day? |
| 03:08.04 | Shirik|Ecole | How come there's no USA day... |
| 03:08.53 | Wobin | ID4? |
| 03:09.12 | Wobin | Not American enough? =) |
| 03:10.03 | Cairenn | Shirik|Ecole: what do you call July 4th? :p |
| 03:10.14 | Shirik|Ecole | independence day |
| 03:10.17 | Shirik|Ecole | we don't call it "USA day" |
| 03:10.26 | Cairenn | it's the same diff though :p |
| 03:11.09 | Wobin | Actually for a lot of Americans... Every day is America Day =) |
| 03:11.18 | Cidan | Wobin: woosh |
| 03:11.18 | Shirik|Ecole | no, only republicans |
| 03:11.38 | Shirik|Ecole | And they're in the minority, they just don't know it yet |
| 03:12.35 | Shirik|Ecole | RXTX appears to be thread-unsafe, I have to add my own monitors =( |
| 03:12.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't understand why -- it would take 3 words, literally, to make it thread safe. |
| 03:13.00 | Wobin | I read that as intellibrains/err_piddle |
| 03:13.09 | Shirik|Ecole | add "synchronized" to the header of three functions. |
| 03:17.07 | Iriel | Perhaps they wish the users to determine how they want to synchronize it? |
| 03:17.17 | Iriel | Or maybe it needs to run in JVMs without synchronization support? |
| 03:17.33 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: yeah, hate to say NightHawkTheSane's explanation was much better ;) |
| 03:18.03 | bleeter | Wobin: yeah, lamingtons soon. pavlova tonight. life is good! :D |
| 03:18.46 | Shirik|Ecole | Iriel: maybe; but I don't see a good reason for permitting a thread to close a connection while transmitting (which apparently causes a segfault) |
| 03:18.51 | Shirik|Ecole | except for the second point you made, of course |
| 03:19.53 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: January 26th is when the first fleet of white settlers (ok, convicts) landed. That's what we commemorate (some commemorate it by remembering it as an invasion of their land). January 1st is when the nation was formally founded, and is a pretty suck day to have a sickie (day off from work) |
| 03:20.28 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: I beleive strongly that the 26th is the correct day to have the holiday, as it's a month after christmas and during that period pretty much the whole country shuts down and goes on holidays 'coz it's too bloody hot to work anyway ;) |
| 03:20.44 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 03:20.47 | Shirik|Ecole | january = hot |
| 03:20.59 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm freezing my butt off up here >< And I'm in Florida! |
| 03:21.24 | Shirik|Ecole | Iriel: I know I keep asking you stupid questions, and I'm sorry, but you're just so accessible >< |
| 03:21.29 | batrick | i thought you were in arizona shirik |
| 03:21.35 | bleeter | 75F here atm |
| 03:21.54 | bleeter | and I'm in the 'far south' |
| 03:21.57 | Shirik|Ecole | Is there a way to do something like Lua's weak table entries? (Have GC not count a reference towards GC-ability?) |
| 03:22.02 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: I was on vacation in arizona |
| 03:22.10 | batrick | ic |
| 03:22.16 | Shirik|Ecole | my legal residence is in Virginia and I go to school in Florida |
| 03:22.46 | bleeter | shows how much I know, I thought you were in France =) |
| 03:23.32 | Shirik|Ecole | Well, hm, I need "this" to be a weak reference. That's probably not going to go over well. |
| 03:24.47 | Iriel | Eh? |
| 03:24.53 | Iriel | that makes no sense |
| 03:24.59 | Iriel | (this as a weak reference) |
| 03:25.35 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 03:25.40 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, my class implements a Runnable |
| 03:25.52 | Shirik|Ecole | it does some "background work" for the thread. I need that thread to stop. |
| 03:26.05 | Iriel | when? |
| 03:26.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I tried writing a finalize() for the class but of course... that thread still has a reference |
| 03:26.13 | Shirik|Ecole | when the class no longer is being used by anyone else |
| 03:26.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I mean I could go back to my original design of having them tell it to stop (close() method) |
| 03:26.41 | Iriel | Then I suggest making your own indirect class which 'owns' the thread and runnable |
| 03:26.50 | Iriel | A handle, of sorts |
| 03:28.26 | Shirik|Ecole | that makes sense |
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| 03:36.46 | Shirik|Ecole | wow, the compiler warns you if your comments are wrong |
| 03:36.49 | Shirik|Ecole | that's kinda impressive |
| 03:41.55 | Shizen | oh |
| 03:42.02 | Shizen | Iriel o/ |
| 03:42.13 | Shizen | I wonder if the folks are raiding/dungeoning right now |
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| 03:44.59 | Shirik|Ecole | This is really cool |
| 03:45.35 | Shirik|Ecole | my compiler said "@throws java.lang.Exception - function does not throw this exception" on one of my comments >.> Java's really gotten some high-quality compilers |
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| 03:49.07 | Iriel | Only javadoc style comments |
| 03:49.48 | Shirik|Ecole | Still... |
| 03:49.51 | Shirik|Ecole | that's kinda impressive |
| 03:50.02 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry I never came across this feature before :P |
| 03:50.06 | Iriel | Install a checkstyle plugin |
| 03:50.13 | Iriel | (or turn on eclipse's style warnings) |
| 03:50.21 | Iriel | even more impressive things can be emitted |
| 03:50.23 | Shirik|Ecole | I just turned on all of Netbeans' style warnings that I've never seen before |
| 03:50.28 | Shirik|Ecole | and it's making me change a lot of my code >.> |
| 03:50.33 | Shirik|Ecole | "Star import" |
| 03:50.39 | Shirik|Ecole | "Utility class does not have a construtor" |
| 03:50.58 | Iriel | I have a set of checkstyle warnings at work that are considered manditory for any code we receive |
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| 03:51.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I guess these things make sense, though I never thought about them before |
| 03:51.32 | Shirik|Ecole | doesn't make much sense to be instantiating some of these classes, for example, so it should have a private constructor yes. |
| 03:53.46 | Shirik|Ecole | is @override really supposed to be in code, not in the comment? o.o |
| 03:53.53 | Shirik|Ecole | never seen that before... |
| 03:54.37 | Iriel | Yes, it's a java 5 annotation |
| 03:56.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I really need to learn these things that I've been ignoring |
| 04:02.00 | Iriel | Sun have a good 'differences between java 1.4 and 1.5' document somewhere |
| 04:02.15 | Iriel | Or at least a page with hyperlinks to lots of other documents describing the changes |
| 04:03.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Yeah I just read up on the various built-in compiler annotations |
| 04:05.45 | bleeter | this guy's a total winner http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4164429410&sid=1 |
| 04:08.32 | Shirik|Ecole | I dunno, I think he has a valid argument |
| 04:08.36 | Shirik|Ecole | as stupid as it sounds |
| 04:09.34 | Shirik|Ecole | Why would "glorywhole" be offensive? |
| 04:09.45 | bleeter | Glory hole (sexual), a hole in a wall used for sexual purposes |
| 04:10.41 | Shirik|Ecole | oh is that what it is? |
| 04:10.49 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 04:13.32 | Shirik|Ecole | lol "The name change didn't get revoked. If it had, your name would have been reverted to what it was previously. But instead, you got to choose yet another name. So it's more like you got a free name change on top of the one you paid for. Lucky! " |
| 04:17.06 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: They claim your bug was fixed in 5.1.3 |
| 04:17.21 | Shirik|Ecole | wait, that's a different bug |
| 04:17.21 | Shirik|Ecole | nm |
| 04:17.50 | Shirik|Ecole | They broke the Lua bugs page so it looked different |
| 04:18.04 | Thrae | Ugh, says account information is incorrect when I try to login. |
| 04:22.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone ever heard of "Nightwish"? |
| 04:22.19 | sdouble | No, but I saw Night Watch and it was great. |
| 04:22.24 | sdouble | What is Nightwish? |
| 04:22.40 | Shirik|Ecole | Nightwish is a group I recently discovered |
| 04:22.42 | Shirik|Ecole | pretty good |
| 04:22.53 | Shirik|Ecole | they're classified as metal, though I'm not sure I agree with that |
| 04:24.33 | sdouble | Music has changed. The old "Metal" doesn't exist anymore and has been replaced with some terrible version of it that sounds more like punk did before it was retired and replaced with something else that sucked as much as the original. |
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| 04:24.41 | sdouble | But of course, this is only my opinion. |
| 04:26.52 | Shirik|Ecole | It's not really punk |
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| 04:29.11 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. would mango go well in fried rice? |
| 04:29.15 | kd3 | gah, what a dumbassed move. spent an hour looking trying to figure out why only one NIC could be effectively active at the same time... |
| 04:29.27 | kd3 | only one NIC had a default route by default |
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| 04:30.01 | Shirik|Ecole | Iriel, or any other Java guru, any idea how you can look up what threads have a reference to what? (And preferably a means of how it has that reference, but I think that might be difficult to do) |
| 04:30.24 | Shirik|Ecole | specifically I have an object and I need to know who's referencing it |
| 04:30.24 | Iriel | At runtime? |
| 04:30.27 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 04:30.34 | Shirik|Ecole | Not necessarily in code |
| 04:30.38 | Shirik|Ecole | Just from a debugger, etc. |
| 04:30.46 | Iriel | I dont know, though java5 has a whole inspection API, maybe the jave debugger |
| 04:30.50 | Iriel | I rarely need a debugger |
| 04:31.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I know Iriel, you're god :P |
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| 04:31.31 | Iriel | nah, just debug differently |
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| 04:32.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm.. what's the "best" way to send a table over the addon channel? Right now I'm using a simple format (key length, key, value length, value), and considering all I'll ever pass is strings/ints around that's fine... but it's giving me crap that makes no sense, so I'm wondering what other options exist :) |
| 04:33.13 | AnduinLothar | Sky.sendTable() |
| 04:33.16 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: NotesUNeed mod from CosmosUI.org, I think, ... |
| 04:33.17 | bleeter | haha |
| 04:33.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Conspiracy:SendMessage() |
| 04:33.27 | Shirik|Ecole | =P |
| 04:33.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Ecole: <3 |
| 04:33.37 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: you release yet? :P |
| 04:33.43 | Shirik|Ecole | actually the API is released |
| 04:33.52 | Shirik|Ecole | you theoretically could use it, though it's alpha status, but I'm fairly certain Sync does work |
| 04:34.16 | Shirik|Ecole | Only thing it does wrong is tables like foo = {}; foo.foo = foo; |
| 04:34.26 | Shirik|Ecole | Working on that one |
| 04:34.29 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Telepathy |
| 04:35.06 | sag_ich_nicht | or you could use AceComm from Ace2... but that's be a bit overkill if you want JUST an addon comm channel |
| 04:35.19 | sag_ich_nicht | thus: Telepathy |
| 04:35.23 | Shirik|Ecole | meh |
| 04:35.25 | Shirik|Ecole | overkill is good |
| 04:35.29 | Shirik|Ecole | what if you need it later? Then it's right there :P |
| 04:35.41 | AnduinLothar | think you can prolly use AceComm w/o ace, provided you have the right format |
| 04:35.42 | sag_ich_nicht | !c EU Gul'dan Ruknor |
| 04:35.45 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: <armory> <error id="5"> Awaiting Update? Cache missed. </error></armory> |
| 04:35.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 04:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae update the cache! |
| 04:36.01 | Shirik|Ecole | because you know |
| 04:36.06 | Shirik|Ecole | Thrae totally has control over the armory |
| 04:36.27 | sag_ich_nicht | no it's the bot cache |
| 04:36.29 | sag_ich_nicht | that's missing |
| 04:36.32 | sag_ich_nicht | armory is working fine |
| 04:36.50 | Shirik|Ecole | what's eu's armory site? |
| 04:36.54 | Shirik|Ecole | wowarmoury.com? |
| 04:36.57 | sag_ich_nicht | http://eu.wowarmory.com/ |
| 04:36.58 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 04:36.58 | bleeter | woots, AAdv's SVN (non-compact UI) now has GetAll enabled :) |
| 04:37.04 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 04:37.04 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 04:37.14 | AnduinLothar | @ armoury |
| 04:37.17 | sag_ich_nicht | point is: i already do enough overkill |
| 04:37.35 | sag_ich_nicht | and AnduinLothar probably does even more so |
| 04:37.51 | sag_ich_nicht | which leads us to the next topic of our conversation, have you had a look at that taint from fluidframes yet AnduinLothar? |
| 04:38.15 | AnduinLothar | dude, i barely have time for dailies |
| 04:38.20 | sag_ich_nicht | XD |
| 04:38.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't even do dailies anymore |
| 04:39.10 | sag_ich_nicht | neither do i, too lazy |
| 04:39.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i do them once in a while |
| 04:39.18 | sag_ich_nicht | when i'm completely out of money |
| 04:39.19 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 04:39.21 | Shirik|Ecole | ibWorks v0.1.3 [H0.1]> READY |
| 04:39.22 | sag_ich_nicht | still no epic mount |
| 04:39.23 | Shirik|Ecole | Yey it works! |
| 04:39.25 | sag_ich_nicht | (flight, that is) |
| 04:39.34 | AnduinLothar | i raid 4x a week with full consumables... i'm perpetually broke even with dailies |
| 04:39.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Except that thread is still floating there in the background |
| 04:40.58 | AnduinLothar | ScytheBlade1: what're you sending tables for? |
| 04:41.03 | Shirik|Ecole | FATAL ERROR [UHX] MessageHan ArrayIndexOutOfB |
| 04:41.04 | Shirik|Ecole | qqqqq |
| 04:41.50 | Iriel | Is the problem that the thread should be a daemon? |
| 04:42.32 | Shirik|Ecole | nope, it already is |
| 04:42.59 | Shirik|Ecole | if the program exits, then that thread exits, but I don't want that to be the only case. |
| 04:43.13 | Shirik|Ecole | If the object it's dealing with no longer exists, there's no reason for it to be there anymore |
| 04:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: because I like the simplicity of sending key, value pairs for communication.. it gives me a structure, if nothing else |
| 04:43.54 | Shirik|Ecole | since this API will be used in other programs, it's unacceptable to have that thread floating there until the program exits (ESPECIALLY if they were to create these objects repeatedly) |
| 04:44.37 | Iriel | what happened to the Handler idea? |
| 04:44.39 | Iriel | did it fail? |
| 04:45.04 | Shirik|Ecole | nah, I think I implemented what you had in mind |
| 04:45.11 | Shirik|Ecole | but there still has to be a reference floating around that I'm not catching right |
| 04:46.52 | AnduinLothar | ScytheBlade1: what're you working on? |
| 04:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: personal addon, nothing overly special |
| 04:49.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing released yet either, or more likely, will ever be released ;) |
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| 04:55.19 | Shirik|Ecole | Sorry Iriel got distracted; is this kinda what you had in mind? http://wowi.pastey.net/81306-1e0p |
| 04:56.01 | Iriel | not really |
| 04:56.24 | Iriel | sec |
| 04:56.24 | Shirik|Ecole | Host creates one of those when it's instantiated and runs it |
| 04:56.25 | Shirik|Ecole | ok |
| 05:00.31 | Shirik|Ecole | ah I found the problem |
| 05:01.10 | Shirik|Ecole | my thread is pending at response = packet.transmit(); where it does have a strong reference to the host object |
| 05:03.08 | Iriel | Id be inclined to make the object holding the queue and daemon flag NOT Host |
| 05:03.21 | Iriel | Host would just hold a reference to that object, and would close it on finalize |
| 05:04.39 | Shirik|Ecole | probably makes more sense that way |
| 05:04.47 | Shirik|Ecole | this all started as one class so |
| 05:04.54 | Shirik|Ecole | haven't really fully thought it through yet |
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| 05:24.27 | Shirik|Ecole | heh, I'm an idiot |
| 05:24.43 | Shirik|Ecole | if you're going to check the length of an array.... do it before you do stuff with the array -_- |
| 05:26.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there a cheat sheet to the lua pattern matching stuff? |
| 05:27.39 | Iriel | the lua manual |
| 05:27.43 | Shirik|Ecole | are my patterns confusing you? :P |
| 05:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:27.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Not yours ;) |
| 05:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Trying to work my own, and uh, yeah |
| 05:27.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I think mine are pretty simple :) |
| 05:28.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: the ref man or the pil? |
| 05:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Or yet another resources I don't know about? |
| 05:28.14 | Iriel | ref man |
| 05:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 05:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I should have looked in detail earlier |
| 05:29.42 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 05:31.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 05:33.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Suddenly, these are a few thousand times simplier than PCREs |
| 05:49.53 | art3mis | man i swear this is the most laid back server on the planet |
| 05:50.09 | art3mis | the wow server i mean |
| 05:51.45 | art3mis | ive been sniping ah cross faction all day and the only comments ive gotten are "your a monster" from me snapping up the guys 1c silk stacks(which i just mailed back to him) and one guy saying wow that was a quick snatch for 2 stacks of truesilver |
| 05:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | cross faction sniping |
| 05:52.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | is so fun |
| 05:52.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love hopping on alts and doing it |
| 05:52.11 | art3mis | nothing about the countless greens the relentless earthstorm diamond or the healing poition injector schematic |
| 05:52.26 | art3mis | most tolerant server ever |
| 05:52.45 | art3mis | inf act i was bored about 5 months ago and made a character called tapdiscunt to see how long it would take to get reported |
| 05:52.49 | art3mis | it took 6 hours |
| 05:52.55 | art3mis | of my constantly talking on trade |
| 05:54.45 | Wobin | Mr T Scunt |
| 05:54.47 | Wobin | clearly |
| 05:55.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha art3mis |
| 05:55.50 | Wobin | OM NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM |
| 05:56.14 | Shirik|Ecole | also /me eats Wobin |
| 05:56.21 | bleeter | lamington, pavlova, violet crumble, timtam.. |
| 05:56.22 | bleeter | I mean |
| 05:56.24 | art3mis | just so insanely tolerant on this server its awesome |
| 05:56.29 | bleeter | why the FUCK would anyone wanna live anywhere else? |
| 05:56.34 | Wobin | inorite? |
| 05:56.42 | art3mis | umm |
| 05:56.44 | art3mis | i know why |
| 05:56.48 | Wobin | lies |
| 05:56.55 | Wobin | you're only deluding yourself |
| 05:56.56 | bleeter | dumbarses |
| 05:57.13 | Wobin | Oz has got better food than -anywhere- else =) |
| 05:57.18 | bleeter | qft |
| 05:57.27 | art3mis | in north america the percentage is a touch less for bugs and animals that can kill you |
| 05:57.34 | Wobin | bah |
| 05:57.41 | Wobin | hardly any australian gets killed by poisonous creatures |
| 05:57.45 | art3mis | by less i mean about 78% less ;P |
| 05:57.58 | Wobin | It's only british backpackers |
| 05:58.09 | Wobin | and TV wildlife personalities |
| 05:58.12 | art3mis | i cant think of a single aussie create that wont/cant kill a human |
| 05:58.16 | bleeter | I recall telling a fish n chip shop in Ireland that we sell shark in takeaway form over here |
| 05:58.17 | Wobin | hm |
| 05:58.20 | Wobin | Wombat |
| 05:58.20 | art3mis | creature |
| 05:58.22 | bleeter | looked at me as if I was fkn mad |
| 05:58.31 | Wobin | bah |
| 05:58.31 | art3mis | o right the wombat |
| 05:58.37 | bleeter | frill necked lizard |
| 05:58.39 | Wobin | it's the only thing to eat at a f/c shop =P |
| 05:58.40 | bleeter | koala |
| 05:58.46 | Wobin | hang on there |
| 05:58.48 | art3mis | koalas are vicsious |
| 05:58.48 | bleeter | koala will only piss on you, then go to sleep |
| 05:58.51 | Wobin | Drop bears, y'know |
| 05:58.58 | art3mis | REALLY vicious |
| 05:59.00 | Wobin | They're related to koalas |
| 05:59.03 | bleeter | 'coz they're all stoned off the gumleaves |
| 05:59.07 | Wobin | You often can't tell the difference |
| 05:59.23 | bleeter | bunyips |
| 05:59.30 | art3mis | giant sloth? vicious |
| 05:59.43 | Wobin | possums |
| 05:59.46 | art3mis | when they're awake for that 20minutes or so ;) |
| 05:59.48 | Tem | art3mis, sniping the cross faction AH? |
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| 05:59.50 | art3mis | you guys have possums? |
| 05:59.52 | Tem | what do you mean by that? |
| 06:00.07 | bleeter | i'd take the wildlife being killers any day over the local human population being vicious killers |
| 06:00.16 | bleeter | art3mis: your things are technically opossums |
| 06:00.16 | art3mis | tem: sitting in gadget winter or booty with bottom scanner running and buying everything that pops up for less than 10s |
| 06:00.26 | Wobin | this is true |
| 06:00.32 | Tem | art3mis, get anything good? |
| 06:00.32 | bleeter | art3mis: you just can't speak english properly, so you call them possums |
| 06:01.16 | art3mis | relentless earthstorm diamond, schematic: healing poion injector, 6 stacks of thorium, 4 stacks of primal earth |
| 06:01.26 | art3mis | bleeter: and the difference is? |
| 06:02.44 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone here know anything about CRC8? I need to confirm what my program is doing, that is, making both of the following 6-byte packets have the same CRC8 (Decimal): 36,5,0,0,0,64 and 36,5,0,0,0,-64 == 0 |
| 06:02.59 | bleeter | art3mis: biologically? massive. |
| 06:03.07 | Wobin | Didelphimorphias vs Diprotodontia |
| 06:03.42 | Wobin | completely different order =) |
| 06:03.49 | art3mis | yeah but they look the same? |
| 06:04.15 | bleeter | no |
| 06:04.19 | Wobin | not really |
| 06:04.26 | Wobin | yours have a a more pointy snout |
| 06:05.04 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:06.59 | Wobin | ours are invariably cuter |
| 06:07.19 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Opossum_04_13_2007.jpg vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Brushtail_possum.jpg |
| 06:07.19 | art3mis | hrm what about wallabees |
| 06:07.27 | Wobin | vicious creatures |
| 06:07.28 | art3mis | those are vicious are they? |
| 06:07.35 | Wobin | a roo can disembowel you |
| 06:07.56 | bleeter | yeah, never get in the ring with a boxing kangaroo |
| 06:15.41 | art3mis | hadnt planned on it but thanks for the advice ;) |
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| 06:20.28 | Rasgrizz | connect irc.quakenet.org |
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| 06:41.27 | curti | Hello. |
| 06:44.04 | Cairenn | hi |
| 06:45.10 | Thrae | sag_ich_nicht: What's wrong with the cache? |
| 06:45.18 | Thrae | Shirik|Ecole: I have control over what now? |
| 06:45.28 | Shirik|Ecole | hm? |
| 06:45.29 | Thrae | Yeah for responding 2.5 hours later! |
| 06:45.34 | curti | I have a question about what event something is and I tried using dtchatevent, but I |
| 06:45.34 | curti | wasn't able to catch it before the line disappeared. |
| 06:45.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm so lost |
| 06:45.42 | Thrae | 23:44 #wowi-lounge: <@Shirik|Ecole> Thrae totally has control over the armory |
| 06:45.46 | Shirik|Ecole | oh he |
| 06:45.55 | Shirik|Ecole | someone was saying you need to fix your bot, and I thought it was the armory's fault |
| 06:46.13 | reqol | curti: I can try to help you |
| 06:46.16 | Shirik|Ecole | curti: Go ahead |
| 06:46.25 | curti | Rokmar the Crackler 's Grievous Wound hits Dogfish for 1083. |
| 06:46.39 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: bug page looks the same to me |
| 06:47.02 | curti | "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_PARTY_DAMAGE" Is what I am thinking atm, but not sure. |
| 06:47.15 | Shirik|Ecole | who's dogfish? |
| 06:47.29 | curti | A party member. |
| 06:48.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:45] <Thrae> sag_ich_nicht: What's wrong with the cache? <--!c wasn't working |
| 06:48.08 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 06:48.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I think that's CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_PARTY_HITS |
| 06:49.13 | Shirik|Ecole | which doesn't exist |
| 06:49.17 | Shirik|Ecole | next option is what you said |
| 06:49.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I used to know this =( Why don't I know it anymore |
| 06:49.48 | Shirik|Ecole | oh I know! Conspiracy's event parser will know. |
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| 06:52.22 | Shirik|Ecole | As I wrote it in Conspiracy, it should be CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_PARTY_DAMAGE |
| 06:52.25 | Shirik|Ecole | naturally that could be wrong |
| 06:52.34 | art3mis | of course it is |
| 06:52.39 | art3mis | conspiracy is borked |
| 06:52.47 | Shirik|Ecole | ~kill art3mis |
| 06:52.48 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxproton gun at art3mis |
| 06:52.52 | Shirik|Ecole | ~kill9 art3mis |
| 06:53.03 | Shirik|Ecole | hmm, purl needs a "kill -9" recital |
| 06:53.16 | art3mis | [1] /usr/bin/art3mis: Terminated. |
| 06:53.17 | curti | Where would I obtain Conspiracy? |
| 06:53.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I wouldn't recommend that :P |
| 06:53.43 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:53.49 | art3mis | its a work in progress |
| 06:53.54 | art3mis | like the novel shiriks writing |
| 06:54.15 | art3mis | the only difference is that conspiracy has a name |
| 06:54.26 | Shirik|Ecole | I guess I'll have to shut you down for good this time, Already tried a SIGQUIT, so now it's KILL DASH 9. / You gotta learn when it's time for your thread to yield; It shoulda slept; instead you stepped and now your fate is sealed |
| 06:54.50 | art3mis | ahh nerd rap |
| 06:54.59 | art3mis | sorry nerdcore rap |
| 06:56.26 | Shirik|Ecole | This is my favorite part |
| 06:56.27 | Shirik|Ecole | Your sad rhymes are spinnin' like you're in a deadlock, You're like a synchronous sock that don't know when to block; / So I pull out my keyboard and I pull out my glock, And I dismount your girl and I mount /proc |
| 06:57.35 | art3mis | ya know |
| 06:58.03 | art3mis | everytime i see a technical position that says "knowledgeable about SQL" my first thought is "well i know OF it, does that count" |
| 06:58.21 | Shirik|Ecole | hax! |
| 06:58.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyway, kill dash nine: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4 |
| 06:59.42 | Shirik|Ecole | oh, nsfw btw, sorry |
| 06:59.47 | Shirik|Ecole | (language) |
| 07:00.07 | Tem | work at 1am? |
| 07:00.08 | Tem | lawl |
| 07:00.13 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm working :/ |
| 07:00.15 | Shirik|Ecole | well I'm supposed to be |
| 07:01.11 | Cairenn | Tem: international channel, remember? it isn't 1am here |
| 07:01.23 | Tem | it's 2am there |
| 07:01.26 | Cairenn | and I'm at work :p |
| 07:01.32 | Tem | kerwhat? |
| 07:01.39 | art3mis | you're always at work though you home body |
| 07:01.46 | Cairenn | yup, precisely |
| 07:01.52 | Cairenn | if I'm on my computer, I'm at work |
| 07:01.55 | Shirik|Ecole | <-- 2am |
| 07:02.00 | art3mis | or surfing porn |
| 07:02.01 | Tem | I'm the L1 cache |
| 07:02.03 | Tem | hahaha |
| 07:02.27 | Shirik|Ecole | "You're outside your scope, son, close them curly brackets" |
| 07:02.29 | art3mis | like the perverted trollop we know you are ;P |
| 07:02.46 | Cairenn | art3mis: ;) |
| 07:05.55 | curti | Thank you for the assistance. |
| 07:06.20 | curti | Good night. |
| 07:12.34 | Shirik|Ecole | hokay, I have determined the last hour I spent debugging this bot |
| 07:12.40 | Shirik|Ecole | was pointless because the motors were hooked up incorrectly. |
| 07:16.26 | bleeter | art3mis: I hate those ads. It's like asking if people have a Cisco ticket, when there's no Cisco gear to be found on the network. I'm always 'which freakin' SQL variant' or 'why don't you actually say what network environment you've got instead of being a bunch of misleading pricks' |
| 07:16.37 | bleeter | 'cept usually with harsher language |
| 07:19.53 | art3mis | bleeter: i saw an add yesterday that requires a BA in comsci, cisco cert and mcse a+ cert for a 35k/yr a job |
| 07:20.14 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 07:20.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Nothing should require a BA in CS anyway |
| 07:20.31 | Shirik|Ecole | CS is eeeeeevil |
| 07:20.42 | Shirik|Ecole | all the cool people go CE |
| 07:21.55 | art3mis | heh either way |
| 07:22.09 | art3mis | i'd rather have someone for a net admin thats got experience over a degree ;P |
| 07:22.36 | Cairenn | a+ cert is bullshit anyway :p |
| 07:23.14 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:23.31 | art3mis | one of the a+ test i saw hd the question "what does pin 23 for on a floppy drive controller. |
| 07:23.51 | Cairenn | cisco & msce, okay, but a+ actually means jack |
| 07:24.13 | Shirik|Ecole | best buy almost went to requiring A+ |
| 07:24.23 | Shirik|Ecole | it was gonna be cool because they were going to pay for my cert |
| 07:24.31 | Cairenn | why? that's just dumb - network+, fine, but not a+ |
| 07:24.35 | Cairenn | a+ is a joke |
| 07:24.42 | Shirik|Ecole | it is :P |
| 07:25.30 | art3mis | i thought it was funny to offer 35k/yr to someone that if they met the requirements paid out more than 65k to get them AND is in the salary braket of 80-100 just becasue of the ccnx stuff |
| 07:25.49 | Cairenn | yeah, well |
| 07:26.13 | Cairenn | that's pretty standard requirements for any net admin position these days - minus the BA CS that is |
| 07:27.10 | Cairenn | but CCNA, MCSE, Network+, A+, those are basic |
| 07:27.31 | art3mis | hehe i dont have em and can do all that crap |
| 07:27.45 | art3mis | course ive been screwing with hardware and networks since 89 so.... |
| 07:27.53 | Shirik|Ecole | well that's odd |
| 07:27.57 | Cairenn | didn't say you couldn't, just said those are pretty standard requirements |
| 07:28.03 | Shirik|Ecole | batbot has an interesting bug :P |
| 07:28.27 | Cairenn | and often times you have to have the pieces of paper to prove that you can do what you knew how to do before you ever got the pieces of paper |
| 07:28.36 | Cairenn | I should know, that's what hubby went through |
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| 07:28.53 | art3mis | nods |
| 07:29.06 | Cairenn | I'm sitting here looking at all of his certs on the wall right now, including the bullshit A+ |
| 07:29.17 | art3mis | i would have had the netadmin at the brooklyn law school but sadly they went with an alum candidate who would work for less |
| 07:29.46 | Cairenn | once you have the experience, you don't need the certs, but (in general) you can't get the experience without the certs |
| 07:32.55 | Shirik|Ecole | That's boring |
| 07:33.06 | Shirik|Ecole | if you crash batbot's thread, the other one still responds |
| 07:33.28 | Shirik|Ecole | you really have to get it to segfault |
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| 07:34.58 | batrick | what's wrong shirik |
| 07:35.04 | Shirik|Ecole | local s = coroutine.create(tostring); |
| 07:35.09 | Shirik|Ecole | bad argument #1 to 'create' (Lua function expected) |
| 07:35.18 | Shirik|Ecole | actually, that's not what I was talking about |
| 07:35.22 | Shirik|Ecole | but that's something I just found now |
| 07:35.47 | batrick | it's looking for a lua function |
| 07:35.51 | batrick | tostring is a c function |
| 07:35.53 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah I just figured that out |
| 07:36.00 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway the wierd bug is that |
| 07:36.15 | Shirik|Ecole | I dunno if I want to tell you this because it's where my fun is right now =( |
| 07:36.17 | Shirik|Ecole | but here: |
| 07:36.21 | Shirik|Ecole | (02:27:40) (Shirik|Ecole) --> return setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return 4; end}); |
| 07:36.21 | Shirik|Ecole | (02:27:46) (batbot) Shirik|Ecole: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 07:37.28 | art3mis | the neutral ah's are all linked like the cities right? |
| 07:38.01 | Thrae | art3mis: Yep, wouldn't make much sense otherwise |
| 07:38.20 | art3mis | yeah thats what i thought someone asked and i wasnt 100% sure anymore because they asked ;P |
| 07:38.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I see you fixed string.gmatch's iterator |
| 07:38.51 | Thrae | By the way, is anyone else having trouble with logging into WoW? |
| 07:39.42 | kd3 | nope. just got in |
| 07:39.57 | Thrae | Damn. Wonder what's up with my account. Hope it didn't get hacked. |
| 07:40.39 | Shirik|Ecole | okay |
| 07:40.42 | Shirik|Ecole | these guys are idiots |
| 07:40.48 | Shirik|Ecole | Let's see, we provide two options here |
| 07:40.53 | Thrae | Who the hell would want to hack an account with a Level 59 main anyway |
| 07:41.15 | Shirik|Ecole | "bot.getMotor(1)" and "new ContinuousRotationServo(IntelliBrain.getServo(1), false, 14)" |
| 07:41.21 | Shirik|Ecole | they don't tell you that the first one doesn't work |
| 07:42.00 | Shirik|Ecole | What's the point of javadocs if you don't know how to write. |
| 07:42.42 | Cairenn | Thrae: I was able to just log in with np |
| 07:44.05 | art3mis | thrae network hiccup most likely |
| 07:44.33 | art3mis | there was a new warden update so try closing and restarting and see if that corrects it |
| 07:45.12 | batrick | --> return setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return 4 end}) |
| 07:45.13 | art3mis | i wonder if guitarhero would be any fun to play with the controller (not owning the guitar) |
| 07:45.18 | batbot | batrick: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 07:45.26 | kd3 | art; it's about as fun as playing DDR using a controller |
| 07:45.28 | kd3 | not all that much |
| 07:45.33 | art3mis | thats what i thought |
| 07:45.42 | art3mis | but at least its got awesome music ;P |
| 07:45.59 | Shirik|Ecole | this should totally be legal: (data[0]==1?leftMotor:rightMotor).setPower(power); |
| 07:46.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm going to make my own language |
| 07:46.30 | art3mis | guess ill stick with .hackGU for a while then |
| 07:47.16 | art3mis | which would be a lot better with out the 15-30min cut scenes for every 5 steps you take |
| 07:47.32 | art3mis | at least they load from the hdd though so its not compelte suck |
| 07:47.57 | art3mis | i love a.b.tv.ca |
| 07:48.04 | art3mis | i get to watch 22mins and mercer ;P |
| 07:50.01 | bleeter | sorry for delay... yeah, most folks at the personell companies barely have a CS, so of course they know what the employer needs, and the employee should have |
| 07:50.25 | bleeter | 'coz.. if the person doing the hiring WERE any good, they wouldn't be working in some shitty personel job |
| 07:50.59 | bleeter | and then 15 years later everyone runs around like chickens without heads saying 'omfg we've got no one with long term experience arararargh' |
| 07:51.09 | bleeter | *no one to hire |
| 07:54.58 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:55.17 | art3mis | i think im gonna get my SBC from ms this month |
| 07:55.28 | art3mis | asa MCP that should be a bit better |
| 07:55.42 | art3mis | plus its like 75$ and gets me all sorts of kewl new shit from ms |
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| 07:58.13 | art3mis | Delivery of Microsoft Windows Vista Business with SP1 via a Special Action Pack shipment to Partners worldwide soon after SP1 RTM. The kit will include full-install licence keys (not upgrade) in regions where Partners have not already received them, to make it easier for you to deploy the final release of Windows Vista Business SP1 for internal use. |
| 07:58.13 | art3mis | One full-install licence key for Windows Vista Ultimate with SP1 for internal use, so you can learn more about this product's benefits and features for customers who need a single PC to fulfil their work, travel and entertainment needs. We plan for this software to be delivered in your regular Action Pack quarterly update (April/May 2008). |
| 07:58.17 | art3mis | stuff like that |
| 07:58.53 | art3mis | You are 60% less likely to be infected with spyware and malware if you are using Windows Vista and Windows Vista had less than half the number of high severity vulnerabilities than Windows XP** |
| 07:58.58 | art3mis | thats rpetty funy though |
| 07:59.14 | art3mis | since legit programs have an issue running on vista of course virus' are ;P |
| 07:59.45 | art3mis | ** Source: Microsoft Corporation. Windows Vista vs. Windows XP high severity vulnerabilities comparison is based on first 6 months in-market of Windows Vista and first 6 months of Windows XP |
| 07:59.48 | art3mis | hehe |
| 07:59.53 | art3mis | all thier claims are from MS data |
| 08:00.11 | art3mis | woo sniped me some shadowcloth! |
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| 08:03.47 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 08:03.53 | Shirik|Ecole | who spams porn sites in #conspiracy, seriously |
| 08:03.56 | Shirik|Ecole | there's like 5 people in there |
| 08:05.12 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: u? |
| 08:05.20 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 08:05.31 | Shirik|Ecole | and what's bugging me is this name sounds familiar -- heard of it? "sammylegit" |
| 08:05.41 | bleeter | nope |
| 08:06.23 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: reason nothing happened is because I call tostring on what you return, and then use then use code expecting it to be a string |
| 08:06.31 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 08:06.34 | batrick | so my thread error'd and nothing was returned |
| 08:06.36 | art3mis | that was funny |
| 08:06.38 | Shirik|Ecole | that's what I figured |
| 08:06.43 | Shirik|Ecole | and then the other thread was waiting and never got a response |
| 08:06.46 | Shirik|Ecole | and then it timed out |
| 08:06.49 | batrick | ya |
| 08:06.57 | batrick | and i'm not going to call tostring twice :P |
| 08:06.59 | art3mis | the shadowcloth i sniped was going to horde side and the person mailed me and whispered asking if they could PLEEASSSEEE have it back |
| 08:07.15 | art3mis | and since im mostly a nice person if asked nicely i sent it ;) |
| 08:07.23 | art3mis | now i can sit and snipe for a while |
| 08:07.28 | Shirik|Ecole | art3mis, you're cruel |
| 08:07.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I need to try this sometime |
| 08:07.47 | Shirik|Ecole | but I guess it only works on high pop servers |
| 08:07.55 | art3mis | nope |
| 08:07.58 | art3mis | works on em all |
| 08:08.02 | art3mis | but mainly pve |
| 08:08.11 | art3mis | since pvp cant have opposite faction alts |
| 08:08.11 | Shirik|Ecole | well pvp it mostly doesn't make sense :P |
| 08:08.17 | art3mis | to a degree |
| 08:08.28 | art3mis | you catch a lot on pvp for friends on opposite sides doing it |
| 08:08.54 | art3mis | heh just got a primal fire |
| 08:08.59 | art3mis | lets see what thier response is ;P |
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| 08:10.35 | Shirik|Ecole | (03:09:04) -› Quit: sammylegit (n=sammyleg@c-66-30-177-253.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) (K-Lined) <-- O-o-o-owned |
| 08:11.04 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry, I have too much fun seeing people get slapped for their stupidity |
| 08:11.07 | art3mis | its too bad that they changed i so that it shows the name of the person that bought it in the cash out mail |
| 08:11.25 | Shirik|Ecole | otherwise it's what? |
| 08:11.31 | Shirik|Ecole | [1. General] PLEASE WHOEVER TOOK THAT GIVE IT BACK T_T |
| 08:11.40 | art3mis | well maybe |
| 08:11.59 | art3mis | but its far less easy to find the person when it says "BLah bought it for 1c" |
| 08:12.10 | art3mis | this is rpetty fun though |
| 08:12.22 | art3mis | and not at all illegal as far as blizz cares |
| 08:12.32 | Shirik|Ecole | nope |
| 08:12.37 | Shirik|Ecole | and it shouldn't be imo :) |
| 08:12.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I actually don't think cross-faction trading should be possible |
| 08:12.49 | Shirik|Ecole | but I've been hardened by RF Online |
| 08:13.33 | art3mis | well technically its not allowed since its hrdcoded for inperson trades |
| 08:13.43 | art3mis | so... im merely enforcing the rules for blizz ;) |
| 08:14.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I still want to know how that stupid bot got my channel name |
| 08:14.29 | Shirik|Ecole | or if he just randomly picked #conspiracy because it sounded general |
| 08:14.41 | art3mis | which bot? |
| 08:14.55 | Shirik|Ecole | going around to tons of channels spamming porn links a few minutes ago |
| 08:15.01 | Shirik|Ecole | k-lined now though |
| 08:15.05 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | HELO U BYE GLOD VERI SEX GURRL http://tinyurl.com/2nw43j |
| 08:15.21 | Shirik|Ecole | that would kinda tell you that there's only like 3 people in the channel |
| 08:15.23 | Shirik|Ecole | who's going to go in there |
| 08:15.48 | art3mis | its just grabbing the chanel names though |
| 08:15.55 | art3mis | it doesnt care about whos in em ;P |
| 08:16.01 | Shirik|Ecole | why would I be +s :P |
| 08:16.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I do not fear bots! |
| 08:16.11 | art3mis | just +s and you wont show on /list or /who if the person isnt in the channel already |
| 08:16.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry i have rush stuck in my head |
| 08:16.23 | Shirik|Ecole | bots trigger my auto-gtfo button |
| 08:16.27 | art3mis | s == secret! |
| 08:16.31 | art3mis | its a conspiracy! |
| 08:16.34 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 08:17.19 | art3mis | man my poor desktop |
| 08:17.25 | Shirik|Ecole | #wowace didn't get hit |
| 08:17.26 | Shirik|Ecole | they're not +s |
| 08:17.32 | Shirik|Ecole | #lua didn't |
| 08:17.35 | art3mis | the pwoersupply spazzed and the fan broke a couple of weeks ago and i didnt notice til the other day |
| 08:17.38 | Shirik|Ecole | if he's using /list it's a pretty stupid priority |
| 08:18.27 | batrick | batbot: is shirik terribad? |
| 08:18.28 | batbot | batrick, As I see it, yes. |
| 08:18.34 | batrick | ownT! |
| 08:18.44 | Shirik|Ecole | batbot: is batrick terribad? |
| 08:18.45 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole, Most likely. |
| 08:18.51 | Shirik|Ecole | batbot: is everyone terribad? |
| 08:18.52 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole, Are you kidding? |
| 08:18.58 | Shirik|Ecole | bleh, just us too |
| 08:18.59 | Shirik|Ecole | two |
| 08:19.00 | Shirik|Ecole | TWO |
| 08:20.01 | art3mis | bahahahahahah |
| 08:20.13 | art3mis | the primal fire i sniped was the same guy as the shadowcloth |
| 08:20.30 | art3mis | "dude you're fast im using two comps to do it and before i could click the refresh button it was gone!" |
| 08:22.15 | art3mis | so anyways the neat almost killed opne of my drives so now its slow and running for crap |
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| 08:39.17 | Shirik|Ecole | I love how two weeks ago, security came in around this time and was like "Who are you, let me see your ID" |
| 08:39.25 | Shirik|Ecole | Last week it was "You're sure in here a lot" |
| 08:39.32 | Shirik|Ecole | This week it's "What the heck do you in here anyway" |
| 08:44.04 | Industrial | wtb actionbar mod that works |
| 08:44.16 | Esamynn | Industrial: Denied! |
| 08:44.23 | Shirik|Ecole | use blizzard bars |
| 08:44.30 | Industrial | no, they are way too big |
| 08:44.40 | Shirik|Ecole | also qq Exception in thread "ibWorksHost" java.lang.NullPointerException |
| 08:45.19 | Shirik|Ecole | at least debugging the host is so much easier -- on the client I can't even see anything... or even that an error occurs! |
| 08:46.19 | Esamynn | heh |
| 08:47.59 | Shirik|Ecole | I wrapped everything with try { ... } catch (Exception e) { getFaultLed().on() } |
| 08:48.04 | Shirik|Ecole | that's the way I know an error occurred :P |
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| 09:00.09 | Tem | Shirik|Ecole, what are you doing there? |
| 09:00.19 | Shirik|Ecole | working on a bot |
| 09:00.27 | batrick | CE pull all nighters at the lab |
| 09:00.29 | batrick | amirite? |
| 09:00.32 | zenzelezz | zomg he's making a botnet! |
| 09:00.33 | Shirik|Ecole | pretty much |
| 09:00.40 | batrick | don't see that kind of dedication from a CS major eh!? |
| 09:00.55 | Shirik|Ecole | CS majors don't have a "dedication" in their dictionary :P |
| 09:02.00 | Shirik|Ecole | and if this damn IDE weren't so god-awful I might actually be done |
| 09:02.16 | Tem | Shirik|Ecole, I have dedication |
| 09:02.22 | Tem | I just don't need to be there to work on my stuff |
| 09:02.29 | Shirik|Ecole | like seriously, I have to ask you guys. If you could only have one feature in an IDE, what would it be? |
| 09:02.39 | Shirik|Ecole | (Assuming it has all the requirements, like a compiler, etc.) |
| 09:02.39 | Industrial | no ide |
| 09:02.44 | Industrial | xD |
| 09:03.03 | Tem | Shirik|Ecole, is syntax highlighting considered a requirement? |
| 09:03.08 | Shirik|Ecole | not a requirement |
| 09:03.13 | Tem | then that's it for me |
| 09:03.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Let me take a screenshot of my IDE for you |
| 09:03.22 | Tem | I can't program plain text |
| 09:03.26 | Industrial | what editor doesnt do that Tem? |
| 09:03.33 | Tem | Industrial, *shrug* |
| 09:03.38 | Tem | notepad |
| 09:03.45 | Industrial | thats not an editor |
| 09:03.52 | Tem | wordpad |
| 09:04.10 | Industrial | also not a code editor |
| 09:04.11 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:04.23 | sacarasc | code is text, they edit text |
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| 09:04.25 | sacarasc | thus it is |
| 09:04.40 | Shirik|Ecole | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c58ab03dc4c564c86f97789925b97668.JPG |
| 09:04.44 | Industrial | lets not get into what is ant isnt then, because you fail to see that I'm joking |
| 09:04.46 | Shirik|Ecole | This is my IDE |
| 09:05.02 | Tem | Shirik|Ecole, :( |
| 09:05.07 | Tem | that is epic fail |
| 09:05.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Now here is my Java IDE of choice |
| 09:05.23 | Industrial | I'd like it to be able to complete my code in any language and also complete my own library code (eg if it sees its a kind of object respond to that) |
| 09:05.30 | Tem | Shirik|Ecole, don't say eclipse |
| 09:05.39 | Shirik|Ecole | nah, I hate eclipse actually |
| 09:05.52 | Tem | to be fair, it has some great features |
| 09:05.56 | Tem | but it's so goddamn slow |
| 09:06.18 | Shirik|Ecole | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/9cdc4d129a75be35a67d0662c19664a1.JPG |
| 09:06.22 | Industrial | the question is, why use java :P |
| 09:06.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Because this bot does not have a processor on it |
| 09:06.31 | Shirik|Ecole | it has a java chip |
| 09:06.46 | Shirik|Ecole | (Don't ask me, I didn't design it, I'm just getting paid to... oh yeah, get this |
| 09:07.00 | Shirik|Ecole | The school is paying me to do what I'm doing right now. Guess what I'm doing. MAKING SOMETHING SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THAT DAMN IDE |
| 09:07.28 | batrick | lol java chip |
| 09:07.32 | batrick | is it made by Sun? |
| 09:07.38 | batrick | Sun should be banned from making hardware |
| 09:07.41 | Shirik|Ecole | not sure who it's made by, and unfortunately I can't see it |
| 09:07.51 | Shirik|Ecole | it's under the LCD panel |
| 09:07.54 | batrick | i've not seen a single piece of good hardware come from them |
| 09:08.04 | Shirik|Ecole | it's actually an interesting idea |
| 09:08.35 | Shirik|Ecole | whether or not it works well may be another question :P |
| 09:08.42 | Shirik|Ecole | But it seems to be handling the app OK, multithreading and all |
| 09:08.46 | zenzelezz | speaking of Sun, what do you think will happen to MySQL now that they bought them? |
| 09:08.50 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf?! |
| 09:08.52 | Shirik|Ecole | are you serious? |
| 09:08.59 | batrick | ya |
| 09:09.02 | Industrial | zenzelezz: nothing much I think |
| 09:11.04 | Shirik|Ecole | btw Tem, have you tried Netbeans? |
| 09:11.10 | Tem | I haven't |
| 09:11.18 | Tem | a friend of mine keeps telling me that it's good |
| 09:11.34 | Shirik|Ecole | here's a decent screenshot of it in action |
| 09:11.37 | Shirik|Ecole | typical coding |
| 09:11.45 | Tem | oh woot, my badge of tenacity sold |
| 09:11.48 | Tem | 900g for me |
| 09:13.47 | Tem | yayz, back up to 4k g |
| 09:15.25 | sacarasc | such little golds ;o |
| 09:16.26 | Shirik|Ecole | ok Tem here's as much as I could fit into one screenshot :P |
| 09:16.41 | Shirik|Ecole | hopefully you don't compile, document, debug, and read documentation all at the same time |
| 09:16.42 | Shirik|Ecole | but meh |
| 09:16.55 | Tem | sacarasc, for me it's the second most I've ever had |
| 09:16.57 | Shirik|Ecole | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f22ebc30e10fa831ba5f127d3aead96c.JPG |
| 09:17.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I've used Netbeans since their version 4 and I have to say it has always been very good to me |
| 09:17.21 | sacarasc | Tem: i've not hit level 70 yet and still have over 7k \o/ |
| 09:17.24 | Shirik|Ecole | hell it even guesses code now |
| 09:17.34 | Tem | sacarasc, um, how? |
| 09:17.49 | sacarasc | i'm just that damn good? |
| 09:17.55 | Tem | *eyeroll* |
| 09:18.00 | Shirik|Ecole | let's say you have some function foo that takes a byte? And you type fo then hit ctrl+space for completion, right? Normally you find foo and hit ( and it's all "ok" |
| 09:18.01 | Tem | what are you doing to make money? |
| 09:18.31 | Shirik|Ecole | no, if you only have one byte variable in scope, call it bar, then it assumes that you wanted that, does foo(bar) for you, highligting bar so you can quickly change it if it's wrong |
| 09:18.51 | sacarasc | skinning, mining, big bags to carry lots of crap |
| 09:18.53 | Tem | Shirik|Ecole, sounds hot |
| 09:18.58 | Tem | oh, mining |
| 09:19.00 | Tem | that's how |
| 09:19.02 | Shirik|Ecole | The stuff they've done in 6 is very impressive |
| 09:19.19 | Tem | Shirik|Ecole, next time I do something with java I'll give it a try |
| 09:19.27 | Shirik|Ecole | =) |
| 09:19.27 | batrick | sounds like eclipse shirik |
| 09:19.29 | Tem | I think I have to write a Sceme interpreter this semester |
| 09:19.33 | Tem | scheme* |
| 09:19.35 | Shirik|Ecole | sounds like eclipse... but done right |
| 09:20.31 | Shirik|Ecole | man it took me so long to put that screenshot together and you don't even say a "looks nice" |
| 09:22.02 | batrick | looks like a mess |
| 09:22.05 | batrick | u need 2 screens friend |
| 09:22.20 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 09:22.31 | Shirik|Ecole | (04:16:41) (@Shirik|Ecole) hopefully you don't compile, document, debug, and read documentation all at the same time |
| 09:22.43 | Shirik|Ecole | and I'm on my laptop |
| 09:22.55 | batrick | writing code on laptops is lose |
| 09:23.03 | batrick | unless it's a full size keyboard |
| 09:23.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not about to use the school computer |
| 09:23.10 | Shirik|Ecole | guess what IDE is on it |
| 09:23.14 | Shirik|Ecole | take a wild guess |
| 09:23.14 | batrick | well i don't blame u there :P |
| 09:23.17 | batrick | ECLIPSE YAYA |
| 09:23.24 | art3mis | i love laptop keyboards |
| 09:23.29 | Shirik|Ecole | And guess what they have for C |
| 09:23.34 | art3mis | i can actually type faster on then than normal ones |
| 09:23.34 | batrick | gcc?! |
| 09:23.36 | batrick | :D |
| 09:23.43 | Shirik|Ecole | well... I would be ok with gcc |
| 09:23.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm talking IDEs |
| 09:23.54 | batrick | eclipse?!!??!?!?! |
| 09:23.57 | Shirik|Ecole | lol no |
| 09:24.15 | Shirik|Ecole | Bloodshed Dev-CPP yey! |
| 09:24.22 | batrick | whatever that is |
| 09:24.23 | Shirik|Ecole | the only IDE that's ever managed to be worse than eclipse |
| 09:24.23 | Tem | AWESOME |
| 09:24.29 | Shirik|Ecole | wait wait |
| 09:24.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I take it back |
| 09:24.36 | batrick | eclipse is nice i duno what's wrong iwth u |
| 09:24.40 | Shirik|Ecole | RoboJDE is worse than everything I could have ever imagine |
| 09:27.17 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: Quick EE question for you |
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| 09:27.22 | Shirik|Ecole | got a sec? |
| 09:27.56 | zenzelezz | that sounds more like a general question |
| 09:28.03 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 09:28.24 | batrick | sup |
| 09:28.45 | Shirik|Ecole | Okay, I have an analog device that returns its results with a voltage level, 0-3V, pretty simple |
| 09:29.12 | Shirik|Ecole | Thing is it is a bit unstable, so I'm thinking of adding a capacitor to kinda "eat up" the noise |
| 09:29.17 | Shirik|Ecole | 0.1uf, big enough? |
| 09:30.01 | batrick | you need to identify the typical frequency of the noise and create a proper filter |
| 09:30.22 | Shirik|Ecole | what if it doesn't have a frequency >< |
| 09:30.31 | Shirik|Ecole | And I haven't passed signals and systems yet! |
| 09:30.42 | Shirik|Ecole | in fact, my entire team is pretty much in signals and systems right now |
| 09:31.27 | sacarasc | Shirik|Ecole: does it have cvs/svn/git stuff in it yet? |
| 09:31.36 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 09:31.48 | Shirik|Ecole | oh netbeans? Yes it does |
| 09:31.58 | Shirik|Ecole | some are built-in and some are installed from a remote source with a few clicks |
| 09:32.10 | Shirik|Ecole | cvs and subversion are built-in |
| 09:33.17 | Shirik|Ecole | netbeans also has a "plugins" window where you can manage plugins. You can review them from within the IDE, and download them through the IDE and have them installed |
| 09:33.29 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: ya that should probably work |
| 09:33.41 | batrick | but i don't know if that capacitor is necessarily best |
| 09:34.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I just checked the list, I see mercurial |
| 09:34.31 | Shirik|Ecole | no git =( |
| 09:35.57 | sacarasc | all that kinda thing is almost needed, pulling in source, editing and reuploading w/o having to run multiple things is A Good Thing(tm) |
| 09:36.23 | Shirik|Ecole | Well git is still a bit undeveloped |
| 09:36.28 | Shirik|Ecole | It works, but it's mostly command line |
| 09:36.54 | Shirik|Ecole | And you have to admit CVS and SVN are by far more popular |
| 09:39.58 | sacarasc | and suck more |
| 09:40.13 | Shirik|Ecole | meh |
| 09:40.17 | Shirik|Ecole | I have no issues with SVN |
| 09:40.23 | Shirik|Ecole | despite what Linus told me |
| 09:40.40 | Shirik|Ecole | git does look impressive, but for the time being I'll stick with git until I have a real reason to use it |
| 09:40.44 | Shirik|Ecole | right now I like having my code in one place |
| 09:43.42 | Shirik|Ecole | well that was awesome |
| 09:44.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sitting here like "why doesn't my code work" for a few minutes, then a light flashes on and off repeatedly and then the LCD fades to nothing. |
| 09:44.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I really wish this thing had a battery indicator |
| 09:44.16 | sacarasc | heh |
| 09:48.00 | Shirik|Ecole | what's the easiest way to one's compliment something? (byte ^ 11111111) right? |
| 09:48.08 | batrick | no |
| 09:48.09 | batrick | ! |
| 09:48.11 | batrick | erlkjalskdjf |
| 09:48.12 | batrick | ~ |
| 09:48.44 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 09:48.47 | Shirik|Ecole | why not? |
| 09:49.18 | batrick | ~ is one's complement |
| 09:49.26 | Shirik|Ecole | are you serious? |
| 09:49.29 | batrick | yes... |
| 09:49.31 | Shirik|Ecole | ~byte? |
| 09:49.32 | purl | well, byte is Simply put, it's 8 bits. Think of it as a string of 1s and 0s thatrepresents a number from 0 to 255. For example '01100101' is one byte ofinformation. |
| 09:49.32 | Shirik|Ecole | That's i? |
| 09:49.37 | Shirik|Ecole | shut up purl |
| 09:50.02 | batrick | !g java one's complement |
| 09:50.03 | batbot | batrick: binary : Java Glossary <http://mindprod.com/jgloss/binary.html> |
| 09:50.32 | batrick | java has all C binary operators |
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| 09:51.18 | Shirik|Ecole | C HAS THAT?! |
| 09:52.29 | Shirik|Ecole | actually I needed two's compliment anyway |
| 09:52.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I just wasn't thinking it through |
| 09:52.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm like "ok, ~b+1 |
| 09:52.45 | Shirik|Ecole | wait a second... |
| 09:52.47 | batrick | ya well '-' works really well for that |
| 09:52.51 | batrick | :P |
| 09:52.54 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah I knew that one thank you -_- |
| 09:53.04 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually ended up doing 128-b |
| 09:53.11 | Shirik|Ecole | because I'm haxor like that |
| 09:55.09 | Shirik|Ecole | yey |
| 09:55.10 | Shirik|Ecole | TRANSMIT 24 05 01 00 00 00 10 4b |
| 09:55.10 | Shirik|Ecole | DATA OK |
| 09:55.13 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 batrick |
| 09:55.19 | batrick | <3 |
| 09:55.20 | Shirik|Ecole | like my protocol? It's awesome isn't it |
| 09:55.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually it's incredibly overkill for that command.... those three 00 bytes will never be used |
| 09:55.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I should remove them |
| 09:57.29 | batrick | #define TRANSMITE 1 |
| 09:57.38 | batrick | #define TRANSMIT 1 |
| 09:57.39 | batrick | ** |
| 09:57.43 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 09:58.01 | batrick | nvm |
| 09:58.31 | Shirik|Ecole | I think my protocol is neat, consise, and perfect for serial communications. A CS major would have made it incredibly bloated. |
| 09:58.53 | Shirik|Ecole | First byte is command, second byte is length of data field, next <length> bytes is the data, last byte is a FCS |
| 09:59.18 | Shirik|Ecole | FCS is just a CRC8 |
| 10:00.26 | Shirik|Ecole | Why do they use "L" for inductance? |
| 10:00.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I guess I should be asking why they use "I" for current |
| 10:00.47 | Shirik|Ecole | oh well |
| 10:03.24 | batrick | "It is customary to use the symbol L for inductance, possibly in honour of the physicist Heinrich Lenz" |
| 10:03.44 | Shirik|Ecole | ah |
| 10:05.18 | Shirik|Ecole | and I should be used in honor of Ampere |
| 10:05.20 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wait... |
| 10:06.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:51] * @Shirik|Ecole shoots himself <--no, shoot cidan |
| 10:06.38 | sag_ich_nicht | it's his fault anyway |
| 10:06.43 | sag_ich_nicht | where is he anyway |
| 10:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | you called him yet? |
| 10:07.30 | batrick | they use I probably because it looks like a wire :P |
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| 10:17.10 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick |
| 10:17.17 | Shirik|Ecole | that is the worst explanation I think I've ever heard |
| 10:17.26 | Shirik|Ecole | and I'm totally going to repeat that to my EE professors |
| 10:17.43 | Shirik|Ecole | "Someone told me they use I because it looks like a wire, is that true?" |
| 10:18.02 | Shirik|Ecole | <crazy chinese accent> "Oh no no no you must uh understand the I is not because of wire" |
| 10:18.12 | Shirik|Ecole | that is seriously how he'll talk too, no offense to Chinese, sorry |
| 10:19.37 | batrick | haha |
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| 10:41.02 | Shirik|Ecole | Cidan I think I"m turning into you |
| 10:41.28 | batrick | go home shirik |
| 10:41.45 | Shirik|Ecole | unlikely |
| 10:41.55 | Shirik|Ecole | check out my comments! I'm obviously completely sane right now |
| 10:42.16 | Shirik|Ecole | http://wowi.pastey.net/81315 |
| 10:43.40 | Fisker- | anyone know a site or something where i can get some hex colors? |
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| 10:48.22 | Srosh | Google? |
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| 10:48.41 | Srosh | ~askgoogle |
| 10:48.57 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.13 | Fisker- | i just googled your mother and had sex with her |
| 10:49.14 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 10:49.26 | batrick | i googled ur face and became blind |
| 10:49.28 | batrick | sup~ |
| 10:49.50 | Shirik|Ecole | ~~~~~~~ |
| 10:49.51 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat shirik|ecole. |
| 10:50.01 | batrick | ~purl |
| 10:50.02 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 10:50.04 | batrick | ~hate |
| 10:50.05 | purl | ,,|, |
| 10:50.13 | batrick | batbot: ru > purl? |
| 10:50.14 | batbot | batrick, Cannot predict now. |
| 10:50.20 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 10:50.21 | Shirik|Ecole | how ironic |
| 10:50.24 | batrick | =( |
| 10:51.02 | batrick | shirik(sp?) |
| 10:51.02 | batbot | batrick, shirk. |
| 10:51.08 | batrick | how proper |
| 10:52.06 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 10:52.13 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick(sp?) |
| 10:52.14 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole, bat rick, bat-rick, Ba trick, Ba-trick, Patrick. |
| 10:52.21 | Shirik|Ecole | hey, it got it right by the end |
| 10:52.44 | Shirik|Ecole | \nQUIT:Goodbye(sp)? |
| 10:52.50 | Shirik|Ecole | \nQUIT:Goodbye(sp?) |
| 10:52.51 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole, Goodbye is correct. |
| 10:52.54 | Shirik|Ecole | not goodbye you fool |
| 10:52.56 | Shirik|Ecole | what about the :! |
| 10:53.02 | Shirik|Ecole | \nQUIT(sp?) |
| 10:53.03 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole, n QUIT, n-QUIT, quit. |
| 10:53.05 | Shirik|Ecole | grr |
| 10:53.31 | zenzelezz | batbot telling Shirik to quit, that's interesting |
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| 10:54.52 | batrick | !quote shirik dedication |
| 10:54.53 | batbot | batrick, shirik has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 10:54.56 | batrick | lies |
| 10:55.31 | batrick | o well |
| 10:59.09 | Shirik|Ecole | okay |
| 10:59.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I really need sleep I think.... this thing just started working on its own by magic |
| 11:00.01 | Shirik|Ecole | It wasn't working, so I was like "ok well let's implement the NACK part of the protocol so that I can see why it's not replying to the packets" and then it sent back NACK 0 (bad command) and then it worked |
| 11:00.17 | Shirik|Ecole | like my host program recovered properly..... and I don't think I ever coded that in >.> |
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| 11:03.36 | sacarasc | Shirik|Ecole: did you code it with ai and the ability to modify itself? |
| 11:04.03 | Shirik|Ecole | well, with this IDE you'd never know |
| 11:04.10 | Shirik|Ecole | it's so ugly ou don't know what you're writing |
| 11:04.19 | batrick | sometimes i don't know wtf roberto was doing with his string library |
| 11:04.41 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe I'll go to mcdonalds and get some breakfast |
| 11:04.41 | batrick | he goes from properly using *p++ to *(p+1) |
| 11:06.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I should encode my name into the protocol |
| 11:06.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I need to add a preamble to it for synchronization purposes, I'm thinking about using the ascii code for MPD |
| 11:07.11 | Shirik|Ecole | lol, MPDB, 4 bytes, perfect |
| 11:08.41 | Shirik|Ecole | --> function byterizer(s) local t = {}; for c in s:gmatch(".") do table.insert(t, c); end return unpack(t) end |
| 11:08.45 | Shirik|Ecole | --> byterizer("MPDB") |
| 11:08.46 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > M, P, D, B |
| 11:08.48 | Shirik|Ecole | .... |
| 11:08.57 | Shirik|Ecole | --> function byterizer(s) local t = {}; for c in s:gmatch(".") do table.insert(t, string.byte(c)); end return unpack(t) end |
| 11:09.00 | Shirik|Ecole | --> byterizer("MPDB") |
| 11:09.01 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > 77, 80, 68, 66 |
| 11:09.41 | batrick | so my software design teacher tells the class goto's are expensive |
| 11:09.46 | batrick | i had a goodlaugh |
| 11:09.49 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 11:10.04 | Shirik|Ecole | They're expensive in that it makes people want to shoot you so your medical bills skyrocket |
| 11:10.07 | Shirik|Ecole | that's about it |
| 11:10.15 | batrick | ya |
| 11:10.18 | Shirik|Ecole | it's a very cheap operation... a single instruction |
| 11:10.27 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe a bit more if you have some stack work to do or something |
| 11:10.47 | batrick | just change the program counter register... HUGE COST LOL |
| 11:10.59 | Shirik|Ecole | hm, 80, 68, and 66 are all used by the protocol already |
| 11:11.05 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe I'll just wrap it with 0xFF |
| 11:11.16 | batrick | any branch predictor would have a hard time fucking that one up too |
| 11:12.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Well actually |
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| 11:12.06 | Shirik|Ecole | those shouldn't all be followed by each other |
| 11:12.09 | Shirik|Ecole | that 4 byte preamble is fine |
| 11:14.59 | batrick | --> string.find("", "%f") |
| 11:15.00 | batbot | batrick: @ [string "return string.find("", "%f")"]:1: missing '[' after '%f' in pattern |
| 11:15.08 | batrick | what the fuck is that |
| 11:15.26 | batrick | i found this odd case for character classes, something for f... |
| 11:15.30 | batrick | it's not in the documentation! |
| 11:16.06 | Arrowmaster | *sigh* |
| 11:16.27 | Arrowmaster | http://lua-users.org/wiki/FrontierPattern |
| 11:16.28 | Shirik|Ecole | that's.... |
| 11:16.56 | Shirik|Ecole | it should be pointed out that they intend to remove that |
| 11:17.27 | Arrowmaster | why |
| 11:17.49 | Shirik|Ecole | Not really sure |
| 11:18.17 | Arrowmaster | probably because its buggy and takes up too many lines of code anyway or something |
| 11:18.29 | Shirik|Ecole | they kinda said they aren't sure it's worth it |
| 11:18.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought they said they were removing it in 5.1.3, but that's obviously not true |
| 11:19.54 | batrick | that's wierd |
| 11:20.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I especially like %b |
| 11:20.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't think that's documented either |
| 11:20.43 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 11:20.47 | Arrowmaster | its in the manual |
| 11:20.48 | Shirik|Ecole | is it? good |
| 11:26.02 | batrick | night all |
| 11:26.45 | Shirik|Ecole | it is so cool walking through the halls of the school at this time of day |
| 11:26.55 | Shirik|Ecole | as you walk down the hall all the lights slowly turn on |
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| 12:21.04 | buu | Jesus, just use word boundaries. |
| 12:22.33 | buu | How hard is this stuff. |
| 12:26.40 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 12:27.28 | buu | 03:16 < Arrowmaster> http://lua-users.org/wiki/FrontierPattern |
| 12:29.55 | Arrowmaster | word boundaries? |
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| 12:54.02 | bleeter | ... so who's sbo again? |
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| 13:07.13 | Wobin | I wish I could run ZGI on wine |
| 13:07.19 | Wobin | I <3 that game |
| 13:09.18 | bleeter | Wish I could reach through the monitor and stab AV AFKers |
| 13:09.26 | bleeter | particularly the ones who say 'let them win' |
| 13:10.25 | bleeter | I mean, srsly, lvl 61 priest 2nd from top in healing, no deaths... that's fucked up right there |
| 13:10.59 | bleeter | in at least 3 ways |
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| 13:25.55 | Nom_ | lol |
| 13:26.05 | Nom_ | We play in AV |
| 13:26.07 | Nom_ | And often win |
| 13:26.22 | Nom_ | But there's a good reason for that... in my BG, we are waiting up to an hour for AV |
| 13:26.25 | Nom_ | All others are sub 5 mins |
| 13:26.35 | Nom_ | actually, at least an hour |
| 13:27.03 | Nom_ | You have no idea how painful that is, given I want to get a weapon for my hunter that requires 20 AV marks :( |
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| 13:32.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I love it when I make hashing functions, and I put the same thing into it in three different places, and I get 3 different hashes -_- |
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| 13:37.35 | bleeter | Nom_: which BG? |
| 13:40.08 | sacarasc | Nom_: that sucks... but i'm doing a similar thing with EotS currently... and we lose most of them |
| 13:40.53 | Xinhuan | Shirik|AFK, why does that happen? hehe |
| 13:41.08 | bleeter | So i've been thinking about setting up a website that takes Cattleprod SV's, and starts naming and shaming AFKers. Thoughts? |
| 13:41.24 | Xinhuan | what would that achieve bleeter? |
| 13:42.58 | bleeter | make me feel better that their name is out there ;) |
| 13:43.15 | Xinhuan | there will be people that try to get on the top 10 list on it |
| 13:43.25 | sacarasc | repeating AFKers or if someone just does it once? |
| 13:43.42 | Xinhuan | and there will be people that try to submit fake data |
| 13:43.45 | bleeter | repeat afkers |
| 13:43.47 | Industrial | bleeter: I dont believe in automated blaming |
| 13:43.51 | Xinhuan | don't think it'll really achieve anything |
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| 13:44.00 | bleeter | yeah, the fake SVs has got me stumped atm |
| 13:44.16 | bleeter | and I also agree with Industrial, about automated reporting. I've turned that off in cattleprod. |
| 13:44.22 | Xinhuan | also, once the people get their honor quota, they couldn't care less about going AV anymore |
| 13:44.31 | Xinhuan | so kinda pointless |
| 13:44.36 | Industrial | no by defenition. It can always go wrong and the defenition of right is whatever the mod author thinks is right |
| 13:44.50 | Industrial | bleeter: so thats why there are alot of addons out there that do the same thing but differently |
| 13:45.27 | bleeter | as I recently mentioned in a forum post, I've never seen anyone from my RP realm botting or AFKing |
| 13:45.36 | bleeter | I reckon they should only allow RPers into AV :P |
| 13:46.11 | Industrial | you know whats anoying with MMORPG's? |
| 13:46.18 | bleeter | other people? |
| 13:46.40 | Industrial | when you go from "I'm in a world following a story" to "how do I get max points" its hard to get back to the former and have fun playing the game |
| 13:46.41 | sacarasc | mumorpguh |
| 13:47.37 | Xinhuan | make a new alt |
| 13:47.39 | Industrial | when I began with wow I couldnt care less about my efficiency. Now I'm whining about being able to handle 4/6 mobs simultaneously with my hunter and maybe 2 on another class |
| 13:47.41 | bleeter | Industrial: it's only a game. sounds like you take it way too seriously for your liking |
| 13:47.41 | Xinhuan | start in a different zone |
| 13:47.51 | Industrial | Xinhuan: I have had over 75 alts |
| 13:48.02 | Xinhuan | then perhaps, you play wow a bit too much |
| 13:49.09 | Industrial | maybe getting the best zomg gear to get more points to get more damge to beat that other guy just isnt that fun :p |
| 13:49.31 | Industrial | I cant be arsed anymore to even read a quest |
| 13:49.36 | Industrial | >_> |
| 13:49.54 | Industrial | bla bla bla where do i go what do I kill what will it get me next! |
| 13:50.37 | Industrial | and then you are a robot :o |
| 13:50.46 | Industrial | maybe I should try a different game heh ^^ |
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| 13:52.10 | Lunessa | ... station |
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| 13:53.35 | Industrial | so dont tell Lunessa |
| 13:53.38 | Industrial | ho shi- |
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| 13:54.03 | Lunessa | Awwww.... You keep secrets, :D |
| 13:55.02 | Industrial | I feel like playing diablo2 singleplayer :o |
| 13:56.19 | Lunessa | I never played any of the Diablo games. When I bought the original it crashed Windows repeatedly at install so I took it back to the store. |
| 13:56.33 | Lunessa | I never bought another version. /shrug/ |
| 13:57.11 | Industrial | I never played and and never bought 2 :p |
| 13:57.17 | Industrial | played 1* |
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| 14:00.32 | [dRaCo] | guess I need a new TFT, 17" or 19", any recommendations? |
| 14:01.51 | Lunessa | Something with DVI and a widescreen format. |
| 14:02.01 | [dRaCo] | DVI, sure |
| 14:02.07 | [dRaCo] | but why widescreen? |
| 14:02.17 | [dRaCo] | never got what people like about those |
| 14:02.46 | Lunessa | The aspect ratio is more natural for the human eye - it feels more like having peripheral vision |
| 14:03.09 | [dRaCo] | but they've got crappy resolutions like 1400x900 |
| 14:03.35 | [dRaCo] | you cant fit anything on 900px |
| 14:03.59 | Lunessa | Actually, I play on 1400x900 - I rather like it. Now when I play on a 1280x1024 everything looks distorted. |
| 14:04.56 | [dRaCo] | isn't that just 'cause you've gotten used to 1400x900? |
| 14:05.24 | [dRaCo] | I bet if I'd get a widescreen TFT now it'd look strange to me |
| 14:05.51 | [dRaCo] | been using a 17" TFT at 1280x1024 for about 3 years now |
| 14:06.10 | Lunessa | I thought that might be the case. But I also play on a 1680 x 1050 monitor and that feel very natural to me now. |
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| 14:19.04 | Polarina | wowinterface.com is not responding... |
| 14:19.13 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* |
| 14:19.24 | Polarina | :) |
| 14:20.18 | Lunessa | My brain is 404-ing. Please inject caffeine. |
| 14:20.58 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA |
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| 14:22.58 | Lunessa | I think pretty much everyone in here can relate to Code Monkey |
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| 14:27.41 | Polarina | ? |
| 14:27.52 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 14:27.58 | Cairenn|afk | love code monkey |
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| 14:28.38 | bleeter | Industrial: yeah, sounds like you need to get outta hard core mode, interact with a buncha noobs for 30 mins a day and stuff for a while. help them out, make your own fun. |
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| 14:42.14 | Shirik|Ecole | I seriously underestimate communications systems, I guess |
| 14:42.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I wrote up this program with a timeout of 200ms, and I just tried pulling it down for the hell of it, it runs stabily at 10ms |
| 14:42.40 | Shirik|Ecole | it /can/ operate at 3ms |
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| 14:46.23 | Lunessa | http://www.c00lstuff.com/1133/Do_s_and_don_ts_with_babies/ - think someone should have sent this to B. Spears. |
| 14:53.14 | Shirik|Ecole | lol @ babyproofing your home |
| 14:54.11 | |pez| | Imo, some people seem a bit hysterical about babyproofing their homes. |
| 14:54.13 | Shirik|Ecole | some of those are just wrong |
| 14:54.17 | |pez| | sure, make it safe for the kid, but... |
| 14:54.34 | |pez| | But it's not like you should move *everything* so the baby can't get a hold of it. |
| 14:54.37 | Shirik|Ecole | tbh in a modern house, electricity shouldn't be a concern |
| 14:54.47 | Shirik|Ecole | those little plugs you put into an outlet? worthless :P |
| 14:55.10 | Shirik|Ecole | Besides if I ever have kids, they can learn through experience. I'm not going to hold their hand for 80 years. |
| 14:55.23 | Thrae | Don't forget to move the Science books! You gotta put the fear-o-God in them FIRST. |
| 14:56.17 | |pez| | learning through experience is the way I'd do it too, although, I'd move my most precious posessions out of the way, if I was afraid they could break. :P |
| 14:56.46 | Thrae | "So, God didn't really create the world 10,000 years ago? But why did you let me believe he did?" "Remember when we told you about Santa Claus?" "Yeah..." |
| 14:57.06 | Thrae | Ah, the innocence of youth. |
| 14:57.28 | Shirik|Ecole | "And those storks...." |
| 14:57.48 | Shirik|Ecole | "They don't really bring babies, they actually take them away IF YOU'RE BAD. SO DON'T DO DRUGS" |
| 14:58.33 | Thrae | "Wait, are you telling me that all those experiments I did to try and make a baby from a bird and a bee was just cruelty to animals?" "Well, and insects too." |
| 14:58.33 | Industrial | bleeter: I' |
| 14:59.02 | Industrial | bleeter: I'm looking at other mmorpg's as always, I'm kind of interested in tabula rasa but as far as I know it doesn't offer a trial. |
| 14:59.48 | Shirik|Ecole | tabula rasa I have heard only good things about |
| 14:59.49 | Industrial | bleeter: I like that (from screenshots and vids) it has a FPS approach, I also played PlanetSide for a bit when it was free to play. |
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| 15:06.30 | zenzelezz | character names like http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Silvermoon&n=%90%ABv%ABstat%AB make my eyes bleed (Ãëvëstatë if I've got my charset set properly) |
| 15:06.46 | nevcairiel | a warrior? |
| 15:06.46 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:06.58 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 15:07.09 | nevcairiel | but yeah, they should limit shit like that |
| 15:08.46 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRNZCZtLvs&feature=related |
| 15:09.09 | Wobin | I totally forgot about that mario music at the end, anyone recall which one it's from? |
| 15:09.26 | Wobin | I -think- maybe from the gameboy version? |
| 15:10.26 | Thunder_Child | "Built in Outfitter/Itemrack and Threatmeter: These are planned features for WotLK, but haven't been started yet, so no promises." We want promises damit! |
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| 15:27.53 | Thunder_Child | (nsfw) the video is meh imo, but the comments are priceless http://gizmodo.com/349119/very-nsfw-video-beautiful-topless-girl-playing-wii-+-part-2 |
| 15:30.41 | Cairenn|afk | (9:53:20 AM) dolby-wowi: basicly the machine has bad ram. |
| 15:30.41 | Cairenn|afk | (10:30:13 AM) dolby-wowi: datacenter is replaceing the ram |
| 15:33.13 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 15:33.17 | zenzelezz | "easy" fix at least |
| 15:33.49 | Wobin | hehe Silicon has a different wobble-coefficient than real flesh. |
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| 15:40.47 | Industrial | hm |
| 15:40.53 | Industrial | can I give a statusbar no texture ant only a color? |
| 15:41.07 | Industrial | I want it nice and boring and flat :p |
| 15:42.20 | art3mis | sure! |
| 15:42.20 | art3mis | just dont give it a texture |
| 15:42.46 | Industrial | key |
| 15:43.54 | Thrae | The changes to the leveling shouldn't have auto-leveled any characters, right? |
| 15:44.08 | Industrial | what changes? |
| 15:44.14 | Thunder_Child | Thrae, right |
| 15:44.22 | Thrae | 2.3.x reduced experienced needed from 1-60 |
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| 15:44.34 | art3mis | would depend on how close you were |
| 15:44.46 | Thunder_Child | shouldnt, it was just percentages |
| 15:44.52 | Thrae | I was like at 99%, but I hear it was still a percentage based. |
| 15:44.54 | art3mis | if you had 750k and it only needed 725 for the level yer at... |
| 15:45.19 | art3mis | you'd still end up the same level but a single kill would bump you |
| 15:45.36 | art3mis | in theory anyways |
| 15:45.40 | Thrae | Trying to figure out what happened with my account, I don't care I was knocked out of the 59 bracket. I was suppose to level anyway. I -think- my family was leveling my main, as my Mom is the only one who knows my password. |
| 15:45.48 | Thrae | Right |
| 15:46.05 | Thrae | The password to my account was changed, I think my Mom reset it to level my main. |
| 15:46.08 | art3mis | ywer mom leveled yu to 60? |
| 15:46.13 | Thrae | 62, actually |
| 15:46.17 | art3mis | crazy |
| 15:46.25 | Thrae | She's a 70, plays all the time, wants me to play more |
| 15:46.27 | art3mis | if it was a hack at least they were nice ;P |
| 15:46.52 | art3mis | thats kind of wierd really |
| 15:46.56 | Thunder_Child | uhh..tell your mom to get a life? |
| 15:46.57 | Thrae | I said I would play more, but I am still working on my UI -- needs to be perfect |
| 15:47.14 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: She has more of a life then I do |
| 15:47.22 | zenzelezz | im in ur account, pittin u aganst teh 70s |
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| 15:47.28 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: she at least gets some ;P |
| 15:47.35 | Thunder_Child | point |
| 15:47.43 | Roath | is wowinterface down? get a timeout when trying to get to it |
| 15:47.44 | Thrae | Zing |
| 15:47.45 | art3mis | or has at least once i the past |
| 15:48.03 | Thunder_Child | wait...i take that back, she would have got some before WoW came out |
| 15:48.12 | zenzelezz | he could be adopted |
| 15:48.30 | Thunder_Child | or 5 |
| 15:48.32 | Thunder_Child | err..3 |
| 15:48.33 | Thunder_Child | ? |
| 15:48.33 | art3mis | i doubt that would have changed at least the single attempt ;P |
| 15:49.07 | Thunder_Child | hmm..maybe we should stop talking about Thrae's mom's sex life now |
| 15:49.11 | Thrae | Roath: My traceroute stops somewhere in the middle of Dallas, Texas, where I think the datacenter is... |
| 15:49.25 | art3mis | you're right thunder, let me get the video instead ;) |
| 15:49.27 | Thunder_Child | if she can play wow she can join an IRC room.... |
| 15:49.35 | Thrae | I have two younger siblings, if that helps, and I am also a bastard (child) |
| 15:49.51 | Thrae | My younger siblings are not bastards, bless them |
| 15:49.58 | Roath | Thrae: so the datacenter is having trouble or does that mean that you have access? |
| 15:50.07 | art3mis | they were blessed not being bastards |
| 15:50.09 | art3mis | ;) |
| 15:50.13 | Thrae | Roath: That's from a traceroute |
| 15:50.16 | art3mis | as sayth the lord |
| 15:50.18 | Wobin | I have to say I'd be kinda freaked if my parents played WoW =P |
| 15:50.28 | Roath | which means? |
| 15:50.32 | art3mis | heh actually this family on zuljin all play |
| 15:50.35 | Roath | <- noob at networks |
| 15:50.39 | art3mis | its kinna creepy |
| 15:50.56 | art3mis | mom dad and 3 kids |
| 15:51.00 | Wobin | night all |
| 15:51.02 | art3mis | all raisders |
| 15:51.03 | art3mis | raiders |
| 15:51.14 | Thrae | Roath: If you're using windows, go to the command line and type in "tracert www.wowinterface.com" (without the quotes). That will trace the route you take to get to www.wowinterface.com through the Internet. |
| 15:51.14 | zenzelezz | mooom, he's stealing my loot again |
| 15:51.20 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:51.57 | Thrae | Roath: However, if it stops at the destination or right before the destination, that may just mean they don't except pings / traceroutes. But it gives you an idea if a node is down somewhere, like in the West, East, etc. |
| 15:52.20 | zenzelezz | at any rate, Cairenn said the server's got bad RAM and it's being changed |
| 15:52.24 | art3mis | loads fine for me |
| 15:52.36 | Roath | mine ends at zam.com |
| 15:52.44 | JoshBorke | yay, it's fixed |
| 15:52.47 | Roath | yey! |
| 15:52.50 | Roath | works for me now |
| 15:53.30 | Thrae | Industrial: My mother only has 15 years on me, so our generations aren't that far apart. And my grandfather was an electrical engineer by experince and training, so my mother was involved with computers at an early age, relatively to her generation. I was involved with them at an even earlier age. I knew how to code in BASIC before I could even write proper sentences. |
| 15:53.53 | Thrae | Industrial: She also played D&D in high school |
| 15:54.19 | Industrial | Thrae: I got my first PC when I was 4/5 years old. Your point? |
| 15:54.47 | Thrae | Industrial: You were saying you would find it weird, I was providing the backstory ;) |
| 15:55.12 | Industrial | eh? where'd I say that? |
| 15:55.16 | Industrial | find what weird :> |
| 15:56.09 | Thrae | Industrial: Oh sorry, that was Wobin. I get you two confused because you both use the letters 'i' and 'n' in your nicks. |
| 15:56.22 | Thrae | Wobin has since disconnected. Oh well. |
| 15:56.29 | art3mis | the important question is "is she hot?" |
| 15:56.51 | Industrial | aw |
| 15:56.57 | Industrial | art3mis: lol. |
| 15:57.22 | art3mis | if shes only 15 years older that would make her late 30s early 40s ;P |
| 15:57.40 | art3mis | still within the "hot range" ;) |
| 15:57.58 | Thrae | art3mis: No boy wants to admit to an Oepidal complex, so you'll have to decide if she's milf material. She's only in her 40s and looks like she's in her 20s. |
| 15:58.17 | art3mis | well for me to make up my mind you'll have to provide pics ;P |
| 15:58.22 | Industrial | ^ |
| 15:58.32 | art3mis | unless somehow you magically live just down the block from me ;) |
| 15:58.43 | Thrae | I would fear that. |
| 15:59.14 | art3mis | now about thsoe pics...... |
| 15:59.29 | art3mis | just go tell her some pervs on irc wanna see if shes hot |
| 15:59.38 | art3mis | if shes nerdy shell udnerstand ;P |
| 15:59.50 | Industrial | haha |
| 16:00.12 | Thrae | I would, but she's on vacation atm. |
| 16:00.26 | art3mis | well then post her myspace page ;) |
| 16:02.15 | Thrae | Adults try to avoid MySpace. They just have blogs. Which she doesn't. I should mention that to her -- I bet she'd like blogging. |
| 16:02.32 | art3mis | i kow i like blogging |
| 16:02.34 | art3mis | know |
| 16:02.38 | Thrae | She is a published writer. |
| 16:02.41 | art3mis | oh wait you meant real blogging didnt you |
| 16:02.53 | Thrae | *blogging*, not *flogging*. |
| 16:04.33 | Industrial | lmao |
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| 16:10.27 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
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| 16:14.31 | invasion6 | this channel is for interface question? like where i put spells and stuff? action bar? |
| 16:15.14 | invasion6 | whats the best add-on for interface?? |
| 16:15.19 | invasion6 | there are so many of them |
| 16:16.07 | art3mis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html <-- perfect for you |
| 16:17.13 | invasion6 | thank you |
| 16:17.24 | invasion6 | wait a sec |
| 16:17.28 | invasion6 | hello kitty? |
| 16:18.01 | art3mis | heh yes |
| 16:18.36 | invasion6 | i need another skin , i dont want hello kitty |
| 16:18.55 | art3mis | go browse the ui compilations then |
| 16:19.14 | invasion6 | thanks for the website i didnt know where to look |
| 16:24.15 | Shirik|Ecole | how did..... |
| 16:24.15 | Shirik|Ecole | nm |
| 16:25.50 | mikma | GAH! where's cog when i need him the most! http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/wtf_lol.jpg |
| 16:27.47 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 16:31.39 | nevcairiel | man art3mis, stop scaring the poor people away |
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| 16:56.14 | Shirik|Ecole | *** Lexical Warning: The use of "assert" as an identifier is deprecated, as it is now a keyword. |
| 16:56.22 | Shirik|Ecole | assert commPort.isReceiveTimeoutEnabled() |
| 16:56.25 | Shirik|Ecole | =/ |
| 16:56.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I used it as a keyword >.> |
| 16:57.15 | Cide | fail |
| 16:58.00 | [dRaCo] | I'm not at all sure, but should that be assert(commPort.isReceiveTimeoutEnabled())? |
| 16:58.55 | [dRaCo] | *shouldn*t |
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| 17:02.04 | art3mis | nevcairiel: who did i scare away? |
| 17:02.11 | art3mis | invasion? ;P |
| 17:02.28 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 17:08.31 | zenzelezz | all of the primal -> primal transmutes have a long cooldown, right? |
| 17:08.42 | Gnarfoz | 23 hours |
| 17:09.04 | zenzelezz | cheers |
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| 17:15.30 | Cide | grr. |
| 17:15.43 | Cide | anyone good at state headers around? :P |
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| 17:20.44 | Cide | where the hell are the state header people? alestane, cogwheel, iriel and cncfanatics are all gone! |
| 17:20.54 | Cide | I'm smelling kidnapping |
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| 17:27.08 | Lunessa | Code Monkey have boring meeting |
| 17:30.22 | nevcairiel | Cide: what do you need? |
| 17:30.45 | Cide | http://pastey.net/81325 |
| 17:31.01 | Cide | the state changes fine when I press and release z |
| 17:31.02 | Cide | but |
| 17:31.11 | Cide | ohh nevermind |
| 17:31.12 | Cide | I'm stupid |
| 17:31.19 | Cide | thanks nevcairiel |
| 17:31.24 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:31.29 | nevcairiel | glad to help :P |
| 17:32.39 | nevcairiel | let me guess, you delegate:SetAttribute("addchild", delegate); .. that line? |
| 17:32.43 | nevcairiel | -you |
| 17:33.05 | Polarina | Woth.. Someone translated my addon to Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese. :) |
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| 17:49.32 | Lunessa | Code Monkey like Fritos. |
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| 17:52.32 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: ping |
| 17:52.42 | Shirik|Ecole | Cidan: ping |
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| 18:47.44 | Lunessa | Cogwheel strikes again! "/me votes for Ron Paul to preserve his right to be a douche"~Cogwheel |
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| 19:52.34 | Cide | argh. |
| 19:53.19 | Cide | I have a state header child which casts a spell in state 1, but does nothing in state 0. if I click the button to cast while in state 1, it doesn't fire if the header transitions to state 0 while I'm holding the button down |
| 19:53.28 | Cide | any ideas how to still make the cast go through? |
| 19:55.41 | Iriel | is it simply a sequencing thing? |
| 19:55.54 | Iriel | or is it a key event direction thing? |
| 19:56.17 | Cide | I'm trying to do "hold down z and click 1 to cast spell 1, hold down x and click 1 to cast spell 2" |
| 19:56.23 | Iriel | or, to put it another way, is the code very simple and can you pastey it |
| 19:57.28 | Cide | yep, sec |
| 19:58.09 | Cide | http://wow.pastey.net/81330 |
| 19:58.45 | Cide | well, that doesn't contain the actual spellcasting button I just noticed |
| 20:00.06 | Cide | http://wow.pastey.net/81331 there's the actual code (with a small fix too) |
| 20:00.35 | Iriel | what is i? |
| 20:00.42 | Cide | sorry, refresh. it's 1 |
| 20:01.01 | Cide | I pulled it out of a loop generating 5 identical buttons |
| 20:01.29 | Iriel | Can you do a hooksecurefunc on the OnClick of button, to check it's actually being called? |
| 20:02.03 | Iriel | I'm concerned the problem is that wow doesn't support two buttons being 'clicked' simultaneously, though I was pretty sure i'd done this before |
| 20:02.11 | Cide | it is called if z is held down throughout the click |
| 20:02.19 | Cide | i.e. Z-DOWN, 1-DOWN, 1-UP, Z-UP |
| 20:02.24 | Cide | successfully casts a spell |
| 20:02.34 | Cide | Z-DOWN, 1-DOWN, Z-UP, 1-UP doesn't |
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| 20:02.52 | Iriel | Oh, of course not |
| 20:02.57 | Iriel | spells dont cast until 'up' normally |
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| 20:03.26 | Cide | I'm guessing because Z-UP changes the header to state 0, and the button only reacts to the bindings-friendly binding set |
| 20:03.27 | Iriel | your choices are (1) make YOUR buttons do their action on 'down' instead |
| 20:03.50 | Iriel | or (2) something clever with transitional states to ensure that it does the right thing |
| 20:04.06 | Iriel | what should Z-DOWN 1-DOWN Z-UP X-DOWN 1-UP do? |
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| 20:04.22 | Cide | likely cast spell 1 |
| 20:04.54 | Iriel | Is that the same as X-DOWN 1-DOWN 1-UP X-UP ? |
| 20:05.18 | Cide | X-DOWN 1-DOWN 1-UP X-UP should cast spell 2 |
| 20:05.34 | Iriel | Ah, Z is spell 1, X spell 2? |
| 20:05.50 | Cide | Z is "mode 1", X is "mode 2"; there'll be many spells (bound to 1-5) |
| 20:06.10 | Iriel | and if neither X or Z is down? |
| 20:06.19 | Cide | then the original bindings for 1-5 should be used |
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| 20:08.19 | Iriel | I think your best bet may be to register the clicks on the buttons to fire on down rather than up |
| 20:08.23 | Lunessa | closing IRC to illicitly play WoW. |
| 20:08.27 | Lunessa | back later. |
| 20:09.28 | Cide | Iriel: what about having two transition states 3-4 and two matching binding sets (friendly-temp and enemy-temp), and have the spellcasting buttons react to those binding sets? |
| 20:09.54 | Cide | I think that could work, but then I'd need to have the spellcasting buttons (1-5) move the state to 3-4 OnMouseDown; can I do that? |
| 20:12.15 | Iriel | you can do that, yes. |
| 20:12.30 | Iriel | but it gets messy when you're sharing the header between buttons |
| 20:12.50 | Iriel | since I could do annoying things like: Z-DOWN 1-DOWN 2-DOWN 1-UP Z-UP X-DOWN 2-UP X-UP |
| 20:13.49 | Cide | I think that's complex enough that I could get away with calling it undefined behavior :P |
| 20:14.55 | Xinhuan | you mean that doesn't turn on God Mode? |
| 20:15.01 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 20:15.36 | Cide | it might, that's the point! |
| 20:16.05 | JoshBork1 | just be careful, if you hit Y also you'll delete all your gear |
| 20:17.43 | Cide | Iriel: what would be the best way to, say, set state to 3 on OnMouseDown on "button" (in my paste)? |
| 20:18.08 | Cide | brb... |
| 20:18.55 | Iriel | I think you have to introduce another delegate to capture the keypress, remap up versus down, and then set a state transition on the button for the up |
| 20:18.58 | Iriel | and down |
| 20:21.21 | kd3 | gah, damn those flying black drakes in BEM... can't get out of range fast enough even on an epic mount if you look at the screen too late |
| 20:22.42 | JoshBork1 | hello Cairenn |
| 20:22.47 | Cairenn | hi JoshBork1 |
| 20:24.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 20:24.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's an infinite loop |
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| 20:56.54 | Taurmindo | any way to have my macro (which eventually shackles the focus) do something of a "if there's no focus, or the focus is dead, make target focus. otherwise, do nothing"? |
| 20:59.01 | Taurmindo | perhaps something like.. /focus [target=focus,noexists,dead] target; [target=focus] |
| 21:02.00 | Corrodias | yeah, something like that |
| 21:02.07 | Corrodias | you want an "OR" so you might have to use two /focus lines |
| 21:02.10 | JoshBork1 | Taurmindo: i would recommend ControlFreak from www.wowinterface.com |
| 21:08.06 | Cide | /focus [target=focus,noexists][target=focus,dead] target |
| 21:08.08 | Cide | *might* work |
| 21:08.21 | Cide | I'm bad with macro options |
| 21:09.53 | MentalPower|ZzZz | so... I've come to the conclusion that "local function foo(...) bar=select("#", ...) return foo(1,...) end foo()" will never end. I left one running all night and just killed it after 1.4M iterations |
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| 21:10.41 | Cide | MentalPower: I assume you were testing if you would get a stack overflow? :P |
| 21:10.49 | Corrodias | i'm not fully hip to the "..." syntax, but yeah, makes sense |
| 21:10.52 | MentalPower | yes, or something |
| 21:11.02 | Cide | (since it's obvious that it's an infinite loop) |
| 21:11.12 | Cide | that's interesting |
| 21:11.29 | MentalPower | yes, I know that its an infinite loop, I just wanted to confirm that tail-calls were indeed limit-less |
| 21:11.33 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:12.21 | MentalPower | memory didn't increase that much either |
| 21:12.38 | Iriel | they essentially become a single counter on the execution stack to say how many have happened |
| 21:12.50 | Corrodias | it's adding one call and one integer on each iteration |
| 21:13.13 | Cide | the call replaces the last call, since it's a tail call |
| 21:13.15 | Corrodias | or maybe multiple. i don't know how arguments on the stack work. |
| 21:13.41 | MentalPower | I'm kinda surprised that the Lua stack does not have a limit tho |
| 21:13.54 | MentalPower | 1.4M arguments is a bit much |
| 21:14.00 | Iriel | it's just memory |
| 21:14.03 | Iriel | it doesn't care |
| 21:14.06 | Iriel | that much, anyway |
| 21:14.34 | Iriel | that's one of the benefits of lua, the 'parameter stack' is from the heap not from the C stack |
| 21:18.35 | Cide | Iriel: can I capture the keypress without eating up OnClick for the spellcasting button? |
| 21:19.11 | Cide | since they both use the same keybinding |
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| 21:37.07 | Industrial | lol I was playing with a mage |
| 21:37.17 | Industrial | then he crit a fireball on me and I died |
| 21:37.18 | Industrial | :< |
| 21:37.59 | Xion | :) |
| 21:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:38.31 | Thunder_Child | thats what you get for fighting with your betters |
| 21:39.05 | Industrial | -_^ |
| 21:39.09 | Industrial | k hes will die now. |
| 21:39.13 | Industrial | -s |
| 21:39.24 | Industrial | you made me do it, Thunder_Child |
| 21:39.48 | Thunder_Child | pics or it didnt happen! |
| 21:41.28 | Iriel | Cide: It depends what you want to do with them |
| 21:42.22 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: if I find him |
| 21:43.02 | Cide | well, I want to cast a spell OnMouseUp of a given binding (keyboard button 1), and also change state OnMouseDown (before the spellcast takes place) for the same keybind |
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| 21:43.18 | Cide | doing that should make the rest of the code work as I want it |
| 21:43.23 | Iriel | You should be able to do that |
| 21:43.37 | Iriel | You can change state AND do an action with any secure header child |
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| 21:46.37 | Cide | Iriel: using binding sets? |
| 21:47.41 | Iriel | Those shouldn't factor into it, beyond possiblymaking sure you dont unmap the key prematurely |
| 21:47.59 | Cide | I probably need to read up more on state headers, despite spending all of last night on it :P |
| 21:50.37 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: nop sorry :( |
| 21:50.45 | Thunder_Child | ~sigh Industrial |
| 21:50.45 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Industrial!" |
| 21:51.54 | kd3 | "it"? isn't purl a she? |
| 21:52.28 | Industrial | it likes to think it is |
| 21:52.34 | MentalPower | purl is "gender confused" |
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| 22:00.51 | Iriel | Polarina: Lua doesn't say % is the same as math.mod |
| 22:01.06 | Iriel | Polarina: It says a % b == a - math.floor(a/b) * b; |
| 22:01.14 | Iriel | which is consistent |
| 22:06.47 | krka | Iriel: well, that's not really true for negative a |
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| 22:07.09 | Iriel | The point is, that's their definition |
| 22:07.25 | krka | but not their implementation |
| 22:07.48 | Polarina | Iriel: You get the same results with positive infinite. |
| 22:08.04 | krka | lua> function mathmod(a, b) return a - math.floor(a/b) * b end; return math.mod(-12, 5), mathmod(-12, 5) |
| 22:08.04 | lua_bot | krka: [string "function mathmod(a, b) return a - math.floo..."]:1: attempt to call field 'mod' (a nil value) |
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| 22:08.59 | krka | weird, works in my lua |
| 22:09.05 | krka | lua> function mathmod(a, b) return a - math.floor(a/b) * b end; |
| 22:09.06 | lua_bot | krka: |
| 22:09.10 | Polarina | krka: Try math.gmod |
| 22:09.22 | krka | lua> return math.mod(1,2) |
| 22:09.23 | lua_bot | krka: [string "return math.mod(1,2)"]:1: attempt to call field 'mod' (a nil value) |
| 22:10.48 | Iriel | We're not discussing whether math.mod and % are identical, they are by definition NOT |
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| 22:30.10 | Cidan | what the hell |
| 22:30.16 | Cidan | this doesn't make any sense what so ever |
| 22:31.21 | zenzelezz | IRC can be like that |
| 22:43.18 | Cidan | ouch, that's a big bug, bleh |
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| 23:02.56 | NightHawkTheSane | and what a rare dance it is |
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| 23:28.44 | Hobinheim | hey is curse giving you guys problems logging in? |
| 23:31.10 | Cairenn | I was just able to |
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| 23:36.27 | Hobinheim | i guess it disappeared now |
| 23:36.30 | Hobinheim | thanks for checking :) |
| 23:37.15 | End | it was giving me issues to |
| 23:37.18 | End | too* |
| 23:37.40 | Hobinheim | how do you guys usually manage changelogs in a product, besides recording subversion commit messages |
| 23:39.55 | End | I do it by hand, but I'm really bad updating it properly, so I'm not a good example of what to do :P |
| 23:40.24 | Iriel | Keep notes during development, review SVN change logs and notes to create final changelog |
| 23:43.59 | End | does anyone have notes on what all the minimap blip icon colors mean for the tracking stuff (party, raid, quest givers, etc)? I'm looking at the icon texture and there are more icons than I expected |
| 23:44.14 | End | I see 8 different colors. |
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| 23:46.00 | Hobinheim | in this snippet is select a lua built in ? |
| 23:46.00 | Hobinheim | if (select("#", ...) == 0) then |
| 23:46.02 | Cidan | Hobinheim: Just keep detailed SVN changelogs |
| 23:47.12 | End | yes, select is a builtin function |
| 23:47.36 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: woosh? |
| 23:47.52 | Cidan | Shirik|Ecole: I think I may have fixed the deformed popup bug you got. |
| 23:48.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Cidan: yey |
| 23:49.54 | Cidan | Just spent the last 3 hours tracking down a popup bug; likely fixed your bug at the same time. |
| 23:52.51 | reqol | fluidframes seems to keep my tooltip behind the loot window, effectively hiding it, does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 23:54.55 | Hobinheim | hmm what page of the lua manual is select on |
| 23:55.04 | Hobinheim | having trouble locating it |
| 23:55.28 | End | Hobinheim: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-select |
| 23:55.48 | Hobinheim | huh added in 5.1 i guess |
| 23:55.48 | End | (unless you mean pil, I have no idea if it is documented there or not...) |
| 23:55.51 | End | yes |
| 23:56.02 | Hobinheim | End: thx |
| 23:56.05 | End | np |
| 23:57.25 | Hobinheim | wait so it's used to select the nth in a list? |
| 23:57.56 | dylanm | That and everything after it, actually. |
| 23:58.19 | reqol | how would you go about isolating one result? |
| 23:58.22 | Hobinheim | so select(2, a, b, c) is b c? |
| 23:58.32 | End | reqol: it doesn't matter (much) |
| 23:58.44 | End | any extra results will be thrown away if you don't use them |
| 23:59.10 | dylanm | You can use it for a while without ever knowing that it does that, but I think it's handy :) |
