| 00:01.05 | Lopeppeppy | It's "free" Alliance faction, why not collect as many as you can? |
| 00:01.29 | foxlit | Some of them are in annoying places |
| 00:03.31 | kd3 | meh, I've already gotten org/tb/lbrs/brd... only annoying ones left for me are strat, UC and mara since I don't remember where the mara one is |
| 00:04.50 | NightHawkTheSane | the uc one is easy, its a straight run in |
| 00:05.05 | kd3 | ya, it's just opposing territory |
| 00:05.43 | NightHawkTheSane | even so, its easier than org/tb, not even any guards to deal with |
| 00:05.43 | foxlit | It's cake on PvE servers at 70, generally |
| 00:05.43 | foxlit | (with stealth even more so) |
| 00:05.48 | Thunder_Child | kd3, find him/her here? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21100#reward-from:0+3+1+2 |
| 00:05.55 | Lunessa | Mara one is pretty deep inside. |
| 00:05.59 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elders#Walkthrough_for_All_Coins:_Alliance |
| 00:06.00 | foxlit | wowhead is cheating! |
| 00:06.16 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the mara one is obnoxious |
| 00:06.18 | foxlit | Use the elders' directions to do it properly :P |
| 00:06.31 | Thunder_Child | ~lart foxlit |
| 00:06.31 | purl | keeps mailing foxlit free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 00:06.46 | NightHawkTheSane | its kinda "behind" the golbin, i think, assuming you do the normal path to the goblin, from the princess |
| 00:07.14 | art3mis | oh is it that time already? |
| 00:07.26 | Lopeppeppy | I can't find my way through Mara with a map, a GPS and both hands. Ugh. I hate that place. |
| 00:07.28 | art3mis | when is chinese new year btw/ |
| 00:08.14 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, lol |
| 00:09.17 | Lunessa | art3mis: It's around now. |
| 00:09.37 | Lunessa | I don't celebrate it, but this is the right time of year/season. |
| 00:10.16 | foxlit | Got a lot better at navigating Mara since I soloed it |
| 00:10.29 | foxlit | But yeah, some of the forks are annoying |
| 00:11.25 | art3mis | Lunessa: yeah I can't remember I need to head down to chinatown and celelbrate my birth year ;) |
| 00:11.36 | Thunder_Child | heh, flying in to epl is a mass of yellow ! |
| 00:12.09 | Lunessa | if by celebrate you mean, "get loaded up on booze and good food and ogle pretty girls" then I'm all for that. |
| 00:12.19 | art3mis | I wonder how different wow would be if there weren't mounts at all |
| 00:12.27 | art3mis | Lunessa: that's about right |
| 00:12.28 | NightHawkTheSane | slower |
| 00:12.38 | Lopeppeppy | .... most.... boring.... evar... |
| 00:12.43 | foxlit | <3 travel form! |
| 00:12.44 | Thunder_Child | damit NightHawkTheSane, you beat me to it |
| 00:13.00 | Lunessa | art3mis: I endorse this endeavor. |
| 00:13.02 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 00:13.14 | art3mis | woo! |
| 00:20.49 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 00:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone still following that Doomhammer thread on CS? |
| 00:21.04 | NightHawkTheSane | "Admit it, we're lost!" "Alright, we're lost, but we're making good time!" |
| 00:21.44 | Lunessa | Fozzy, Turn left at the fork in the road. |
| 00:21.53 | WobWork | "I've never seen that..." |
| 00:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | If anyone is, if they would like to reply to Moscha on the last page, with the following line: "Bot in AV less" |
| 00:21.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be greatly appreciated |
| 00:22.06 | WobWork | Hehe, I saw that on TV the other day |
| 00:22.20 | WobWork | and was going "omg, it's been YEARS!" |
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| 00:23.53 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/oink-admins-bail-further-extended/ |
| 00:24.09 | art3mis | Oh God, when will all those special investigation units focus on real criminals, child molesters and other villains? This is one big PR comedy… |
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| 00:33.06 | kd3 | whee |
| 00:33.48 | Xinhuan | whoo |
| 00:34.41 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, saw that, but theft is a "real" crime |
| 00:35.49 | Corrodias | touching children, on the other hand... is magical~* |
| 00:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: WHAT. |
| 00:36.04 | Lunessa | Corrodias: FAIL |
| 00:36.29 | Corrodias | i mean immoral. yes. |
| 00:36.30 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, the "jackson deciple" |
| 00:37.06 | Thunder_Child | s/deciple/disciple |
| 00:37.26 | Corrodias | his blessings upon you. shimon. |
| 00:38.12 | Thunder_Child | shimon shimon! |
| 00:44.59 | JoshBorke | test realm is up? o.O |
| 00:45.10 | Lopeppeppy | Is it? Whee! |
| 00:45.15 | JoshBorke | i dunno |
| 00:45.24 | JoshBorke | someone in my guild is spouting "test realm patch notes" in game |
| 00:45.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 00:45.35 | JoshBorke | i'm very sceptical |
| 00:46.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 00:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Website is still down |
| 00:46.07 | Lopeppeppy | There have been a lot of small announcements, JoshBorke, I'm sure they're seeing a collected list of those, like on WoW Wiki |
| 00:46.22 | Lopeppeppy | No coherent patch notes that I've seen as yet! |
| 00:48.23 | Xinhuan | does wowwiki have all thouse 2.4 combat log details in any page yet? |
| 00:49.25 | kd3 | not afaik |
| 00:49.38 | kd3 | slouken's posts cover basically all we know about the system |
| 00:50.59 | Corrodias | sounds very exciting |
| 00:51.05 | Corrodias | do we get access to unit GUIDs now? |
| 00:53.10 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43107123291&sid=1#177 |
| 00:53.24 | Corrodias | it looked like one of the things he was talking about takes a unit guid as an argument |
| 00:53.43 | Corrodias | "If it is a string, then that string is assumed to be the GUID of the unit in question. If it’s a number, it is assumed to be a bitfield assembled from the following criteria: " |
| 00:56.51 | Thunder_Child | huh, i didnt know they have guitar hero 3 for PC |
| 00:57.35 | Thunder_Child | though $80 is alot for a game |
| 01:00.50 | WobWork | not for the PC |
| 01:01.12 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 01:02.05 | Thunder_Child | wobwork, as in, not expensive for the PC or they dont have it for the pc? |
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| 01:03.12 | WobWork | not expensive for a PC |
| 01:03.26 | Thunder_Child | ya, most games are ~50 |
| 01:03.26 | WobWork | although currency exchange rates may have an impact on this opinion |
| 01:03.35 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 01:04.11 | Thunder_Child | in that case your opnion fails |
| 01:04.20 | Thunder_Child | unles the game coems with the guitar |
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| 01:05.35 | Thunder_Child | heh, "I wish you were dead..And not just because i'm a necrophiliac" |
| 01:05.40 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tshirthell.com/miscpages/nsn/newshirt_020408_news.htm |
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| 01:08.04 | Shirik|Ecole | warning C4146: Useless code: unary minus operator applied to unsigned type, result still unsigned |
| 01:08.06 | Shirik|Ecole | Best warning ever. |
| 01:08.31 | Shirik|Ecole | p.s. I love how sensitive visual studio is wrt warnings |
| 01:08.38 | Shirik|Ecole | saved me so many times |
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| 01:26.55 | bleeter | oO "We will also patch between the Sunwell Isle patch and the release of the expansion as we feel it's necessary." - Neth |
| 01:27.03 | bleeter | kd3: ^ |
| 01:27.17 | kd3 | they've said that before |
| 01:27.23 | kd3 | it'll only happen if wrath gets delayed |
| 01:28.08 | bleeter | um, surely then neth should've said 'if we feel', not 'as we feel' |
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| 01:31.59 | MentalPower | I can't get the damn Source SDK to compile |
| 01:32.41 | bleeter | it's their 'u r not leet nuf' detector |
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| 01:51.06 | kd3 | bleeter, you got a link to that post? I've seen it before, can't find it. need to put that qualifier on the wiki |
| 01:52.27 | bleeter | hah, erm.. moment. it was referenced from CSF and was post #60 on the target thread (ie, not the first blue post) |
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| 01:53.29 | bleeter | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311057787&sid=1&pageNo=4#60 |
| 01:53.39 | kd3 | thanks |
| 01:53.40 | bleeter | last sentence first para |
| 01:53.59 | bleeter | don't see anyone querying this, you may wanna ;) |
| 01:54.43 | bleeter | could quite easily be a slip of the keys and missing a word two |
| 01:54.49 | bleeter | 'if or as' heh |
| 02:02.51 | WobWork | hm, slow 1.1.3 jailbreak is slow |
| 02:10.11 | WobWork | "...Copying data to system image: 89%" |
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| 02:11.43 | Kaso | WobWork, what benifits does 1.1.3 have over 1.1.1? so far ive just been keeping away from updating |
| 02:14.34 | WobWork | If you jailbreak and add the 'summer' pack |
| 02:14.43 | WobWork | you get those applications |
| 02:14.47 | WobWork | like weather/stock/email |
| 02:15.01 | Kaso | ive already got the iPhone apps on my 1.1.1 |
| 02:15.04 | WobWork | and the ability to move icons within the desktop |
| 02:15.10 | WobWork | it's not much really |
| 02:15.22 | Kaso | thats pretty cool, its a pain in the ass manually editing the config files |
| 02:15.30 | WobWork | I probably would jailbreak to 1.1.2 at least |
| 02:15.35 | WobWork | that's stable |
| 02:16.03 | WobWork | I just have a compulsion when it comes to jailbreaking the latest version |
| 02:16.10 | Kaso | heh |
| 02:16.17 | WobWork | I tried earlier with a less stable version |
| 02:16.19 | WobWork | and got irritated |
| 02:16.27 | Kaso | Its all cost/benfit for me, cost being time. |
| 02:16.28 | WobWork | but this is the 'official' one I'm running |
| 02:16.44 | WobWork | It's taken me... maybe an hour - hour and a half |
| 02:17.26 | WobWork | not discounting possible time spent reverting later if it's screwy |
| 02:18.32 | Kaso | the 1.1.1->1.1.2 still relies on preparing in 1.1.1 first etc? |
| 02:18.40 | WobWork | yeah, but that's easy enough |
| 02:18.47 | WobWork | just browse to jailbreakme.com |
| 02:18.54 | WobWork | and it'll jb 1.1.1 |
| 02:19.02 | WobWork | it's 1.1.2 that's a little more involved |
| 02:19.09 | Kaso | ive got broken 1.1.1 already |
| 02:19.13 | WobWork | 1.1.3 is just as easy, since it's an installer app |
| 02:20.07 | WobWork | http://www.modmyifone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27769&page=1 |
| 02:20.16 | WobWork | hm, although that's for itouch |
| 02:20.47 | Kaso | i got a itouch |
| 02:21.01 | Kaso | broken to 1.1.1 with the iPhone apps manually installed |
| 02:21.08 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 02:21.11 | WobWork | ah. no worries then |
| 02:21.14 | WobWork | that'll cover you |
| 02:21.24 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you're totally schizo today. |
| 02:21.40 | WobWork | today? |
| 02:22.17 | Kaso | I'll have to wait till i get vista installed, currently using winxp x64 and iTunes doesnt support that >.< |
| 02:22.29 | WobWork | painful |
| 02:22.57 | Kaso | luckly my uni is in msdnaa thing so i can get a copy of vista business free |
| 02:23.02 | Shirik|Ecole | ~stab WobWork |
| 02:23.03 | purl | ACTION runs at WobWork with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
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| 02:25.58 | Cidan | Kaso: google songbird |
| 02:26.16 | Thunder_Child | songbird blows unless they reciently made it loads beter |
| 02:26.19 | Thunder_Child | better* |
| 02:26.36 | Cidan | they have. |
| 02:26.41 | Cidan | It's very nice now. |
| 02:26.58 | Thunder_Child | well i tried it..1-2 months ago, since then? |
| 02:27.08 | Cidan | Not sure, I just now tried it again after months |
| 02:27.17 | Cidan | version 0.4? |
| 02:27.26 | Thunder_Child | dunno, wasnt paying that much attention |
| 02:27.40 | Cidan | I mean, it's no amarok |
| 02:27.43 | Cidan | but it's getting there |
| 02:27.43 | WobWork | hm songbird looks interesting |
| 02:27.46 | Cidan | and quickly. |
| 02:27.54 | Thunder_Child | it really was a resource hog, and froze/crashed when adding my music |
| 02:28.00 | Kaso | Hmm intersting, but i doubt i supports iTouch, unless there has been much progress i wasnt aware of.. |
| 02:28.04 | Cidan | Oh no, I've never had that problem |
| 02:28.10 | Cidan | iTouch? |
| 02:28.25 | Kaso | iPod Touch |
| 02:28.25 | Thunder_Child | well i was adding about 10-15K songs at once |
| 02:28.54 | Cidan | I added about all of my songs (~12k) with no issues |
| 02:28.58 | Kaso | Unlike other iPods it doesnt interface via a mounted drive, but as a usb device which needs drivers etc |
| 02:29.00 | Thunder_Child | they just came out with a 32gb iTouch |
| 02:29.11 | Cidan | Ah, I dunno |
| 02:29.13 | Thunder_Child | want..... |
| 02:29.23 | WobWork | yeah |
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| 02:29.50 | WobWork | I find the insupportability of the ipod touch irritating |
| 02:30.24 | Kaso | Ive been waiting for someone to hook up a lib that works over sftp to broken touches, but as yet nothing |
| 02:30.28 | Thunder_Child | $500 does not make me want to go out and get it though |
| 02:31.13 | Kaso | cos you could mount the media directory over ssh, then use a third party program to sync the music over wifi i think.. |
| 02:31.38 | Kaso | assuming you're running nix, prob alot harder to manage that in windows |
| 02:33.04 | WobWork | I'm using winxp at work to maintain my library atm |
| 02:36.35 | art3mis | oh thudner go check out the enw layout |
| 02:36.38 | art3mis | thunder |
| 02:36.42 | art3mis | its pretty |
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| 02:36.50 | art3mis | still needs a logo mind you but meh... |
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| 02:44.47 | art3mis | there's actually quite a few winders apps to do that |
| 02:44.53 | art3mis | once you break the jail mind you |
| 02:46.19 | Fin | Terry (from Terry's Chop Shop) got hired to do a Cornetto ad! |
| 02:47.08 | Lopeppeppy | Terry the guy who chops televisions with an executioner axe? |
| 02:47.15 | Fin | the one and only |
| 02:47.17 | art3mis | did he accept payment in the form of a lifetime supply of cornettos? |
| 02:47.22 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 02:47.29 | Lopeppeppy | What's a Cornetto? |
| 02:47.32 | Fin | he didn't reveal details of payment |
| 02:47.36 | Fin | it's an ice cream |
| 02:47.40 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik is still schizo. |
| 02:47.46 | Lopeppeppy | How do you chop up ice cream? |
| 02:47.47 | art3mis | waffle coned ice cream cone with carmel and nuts and chocolate on the top |
| 02:48.01 | Fin | http://www.cornetto.com.au/ |
| 02:48.09 | art3mis | you can get em from most ice cream vendors too |
| 02:48.16 | art3mis | or from local stores |
| 02:48.21 | art3mis | they're in the freezer ;P |
| 02:48.39 | art3mis | they're pretty yummy too |
| 02:48.54 | Lopeppeppy | So how do you effectively chop one? They go squash. |
| 02:48.59 | art3mis | I think nestle owns the rights in the us |
| 02:49.06 | art3mis | not if they're fresh from the freezer |
| 02:49.48 | Lopeppeppy | It's still not very big, you know. |
| 02:50.29 | art3mis | well thast true |
| 02:50.36 | Keias | wait, what are you talking about? |
| 02:50.39 | art3mis | but its not like he's chopping it with a bowlign ball |
| 02:50.52 | art3mis | chopping cornettas with an executioners axe |
| 02:50.56 | art3mis | cornettos |
| 02:50.57 | Keias | o_O |
| 02:51.00 | Keias | Those sound good |
| 02:51.04 | art3mis | they are |
| 02:51.06 | Keias | Sounds kinda like |
| 02:51.09 | Keias | A drumstick |
| 02:51.11 | art3mis | yup |
| 02:51.15 | art3mis | exact same thing |
| 02:51.17 | Lopeppeppy | It's like using an executioner's axe at a circumcision. |
| 02:51.29 | art3mis | cornetto is the company name |
| 02:51.33 | Lopeppeppy | "ooops, didn't mean to take that much off! better luck next time!" |
| 02:51.34 | art3mis | or used to be rather |
| 02:51.43 | art3mis | drumstick is the product |
| 02:52.21 | Lopeppeppy | "you didn't need that, in vitro is all the rage anyway!" |
| 02:53.26 | art3mis | getting yer alibi straight now peppy? |
| 02:54.24 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much, art3mis. My male has taken Frustrate and Confuse Your Way to Homicide 101 and 202, looks to be earning a masters in the topic. |
| 02:55.24 | Lopeppeppy | If I call you up, would you be willing to say I stayed the night with you? *cheerful homicidal Barbie grin* |
| 02:57.05 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, who did you steal the artwork from? |
| 02:59.26 | Nom-_ | LOL |
| 02:59.41 | Nom-_ | Love the headline: 'Mate, your girl used to be a bloke' |
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| 03:30.04 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/353073/canon-120056l-usm-the-bfg-of-telephoto-lenses |
| 03:30.52 | Thunder_Child | now thats the kind of zoom i want on phone cam |
| 03:31.42 | Lopeppeppy | That could only go on a Tauren cell phone. |
| 03:32.18 | Iriel | You're better off just getting a more reasonably priced telescope and a camera mount |
| 03:36.47 | Shirik|Ecole | that's kinda insane |
| 03:37.22 | MentalPower | "Weighing in at over 36lbs and an overall length of 33 inches, a sturdy tripod and pan/tilt head is highly recommended. Pack mule not included." |
| 03:38.43 | Thunder_Child | Sturdy tripod? it should be mounted on a tank. |
| 03:40.37 | Iriel | Meh, my telescope weighs in at about 90lbs, 36 is nothin' |
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| 03:54.57 | batrick | romney wins utah, no one saw that coming |
| 03:55.04 | Corrodias | we still have our trouble with inner demons on leo :/ |
| 03:55.43 | Thrae|Work | Corrodias: I suggest counseling |
| 03:56.05 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 03:57.56 | Corrodias | and people getting hit by WW, though i haven't yet |
| 03:58.03 | Corrodias | and i'm in melee |
| 03:58.27 | Lopeppeppy | Inner demons can be tough if you don't target them right away. Having a boss mod to tell you when you get Insidious Whisper is pretty good fun. |
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| 04:02.34 | Lunessa | "I want one button that tanks for me, write me that macro Lune? Plx? " *headdesk* |
| 04:02.53 | MentalPower | Poll: WinVista 32bit or 64bit? |
| 04:03.28 | Lunessa | 32bit |
| 04:03.30 | Kaso | use 64 if you've got the newish hardware, esp if you have over 2gb of ram |
| 04:04.30 | Shirik|Ecole | hmmm |
| 04:04.34 | Shirik|Ecole | think this is too complicated? |
| 04:04.41 | Shirik|Ecole | if ((diffLeft>diffRight?diffLeft-diffRight:diffRight-diffLeft) < 20) |
| 04:05.04 | Kaso | put some spaces and brackets might make it easier to read |
| 04:05.05 | MentalPower | a bit... |
| 04:05.45 | Xinhuan | math.abs(diffLeft-diffRight) < 20 |
| 04:05.46 | Xinhuan | TADA |
| 04:05.46 | Shirik|Ecole | NO! |
| 04:05.46 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Esamynn|Work] by ChanServ |
| 04:05.46 | Shirik|Ecole | extra stack frame ftl |
| 04:05.49 | MentalPower | ... |
| 04:05.55 | Kaso | if ( ( (diffLeft > diffRight) ? (diffLeft - diffRight) : ( diffRight - diffLeft) ) < 20) |
| 04:05.58 | Kaso | much clearer |
| 04:06.04 | Shirik|Ecole | no reason to include that if I don't need it |
| 04:06.10 | Shirik|Ecole | this needs to run at an extremely fast rate |
| 04:07.08 | batrick | shirik, why do you even need to do that |
| 04:07.17 | batrick | if it's not going to over/underflow, then there is no reasonto |
| 04:07.28 | Shirik|Ecole | hm? |
| 04:07.38 | batrick | if it's negative so what basiclaly |
| 04:08.30 | Shirik|Ecole | it will confuse the rest of the code, for the most part |
| 04:08.36 | Shirik|Ecole | formulas later rely on it to be positive |
| 04:08.41 | Shirik|Ecole | though not this part |
| 04:08.45 | Thrae|Work | I hate it when my code is confused |
| 04:08.56 | Thrae|Work | That's when I take it to therapy |
| 04:09.13 | Corrodias | this is ridiculous |
| 04:09.34 | Corrodias | our mages are dying to inner demons, our warlock is getting whirlwinded, and one of our tanks even got mind-controlled on the last one |
| 04:09.51 | batrick | ~comfort Corrodias |
| 04:09.52 | purl | There, there, Corrodias. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 04:11.19 | Corrodias | our tank is apparently stuck, mind controlled, after the boss reset |
| 04:11.35 | Corrodias | hilarious :D |
| 04:11.38 | Corrodias | but we're done for the night |
| 04:18.35 | Xinhuan | some lock |
| 04:18.45 | Xinhuan | kited Omen to Emerald Sanctuary |
| 04:18.46 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 04:19.01 | kd3 | he's made it to Org before |
| 04:19.16 | Xinhuan | i think that was the plan |
| 04:19.25 | Xinhuan | but he despawned by not reapplying the dot |
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| 04:28.35 | MentalPower | a guild kited Kazzak to Stormwind (bre BC) |
| 04:28.41 | MentalPower | s/bre/pre/ |
| 04:31.07 | kd3 | that vid rocks... "Kazzak does Stormwind" |
| 04:31.17 | Corrodias | i kited illidan to darnassus. yeah. |
| 04:39.24 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl my code is too good |
| 04:39.35 | Shirik|Ecole | partner on this project tried to reset the board because we wanted to re-run a test |
| 04:39.46 | Shirik|Ecole | and my program recovered from the serial connection problem and continued |
| 04:42.34 | Corrodias | oops |
| 04:46.45 | Thrae|Work | http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/truce.asp <-- this is pretty cool. |
| 04:50.52 | Cairenn | there's a really nice song about it called "Christmas in the Trenches" |
| 04:51.11 | Cairenn | makes me cry every single time I hear it |
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| 05:12.25 | Confushirik|AFK | Cairenn|afk: Is that by garth brooks? |
| 05:13.30 | Shirik | hm, no |
| 05:13.34 | Shirik | I must be thinking of a different song |
| 05:14.23 | Shirik | Bellau Wood |
| 05:14.26 | Shirik | that's what I was thinking off |
| 05:14.50 | Shirik | sad song |
| 05:17.01 | Shirik | This guy can't sing, but closest thing I could find: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fHkVtbTrQOg |
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| 05:32.48 | Thunder_Child | I can sing! |
| 05:34.31 | Tem | does google change what order search results are displayed based on things it knows about you? |
| 05:34.55 | Shirik | doubt it |
| 05:34.59 | Tem | if I do a google search for "gatherer" at work, the first result is the MTG website |
| 05:35.12 | Tem | if I do a google for the same thing here, the wow addon is the first result |
| 05:35.22 | Shirik | no difference in settings? |
| 05:35.29 | Tem | not to my knowledge |
| 05:35.36 | Shirik | that's interesting |
| 05:37.10 | Iriel | Tem: I've become convinced it does |
| 05:37.34 | Iriel | Tem: I consistently get Java class documentation as my top searches |
| 05:37.49 | Tem | wanna try it out? |
| 05:38.03 | Iriel | I got MTG as my first result here for gatherer |
| 05:38.10 | Tem | hah |
| 05:38.39 | Iriel | when I search for 'thread' I get java, then thread (computer science) at wikipedia as my first 2 |
| 05:39.11 | Shirik | I get the same as Iriel for "thread" |
| 05:39.17 | Shirik | !google thread |
| 05:39.18 | batbot | Shirik: Thread (Java 2 Platform SE v1.4.2) <http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Thread.html> |
| 05:39.21 | Shirik | ~google thread |
| 05:39.42 | Corrodias | what! the pattern for the red festival dress requires level 55 to obtain? phht. |
| 05:39.43 | Iriel | !google gathererr |
| 05:39.44 | batbot | Iriel: no results |
| 05:39.53 | Shirik | I love the first 4 words of Sun'sdocumentation on "thread" |
| 05:39.53 | Iriel | !google gatherer |
| 05:39.54 | batbot | Iriel: Gatherer <http://gatherer.wizards.com/> |
| 05:39.55 | Corrodias | ah, but it's not BoP |
| 05:40.05 | Shirik | "A thread is a thread " |
| 05:40.16 | Shirik | more appropriately... "A thread is a thread of execution in a program." |
| 05:40.21 | Shirik | -_- |
| 05:40.48 | Tem | !google thread |
| 05:40.48 | batbot | Tem: Thread (Java 2 Platform SE v1.4.2) <http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Thread.html> |
| 05:41.05 | Tem | I also get the java docs |
| 05:41.29 | Tem | but my first result for gatherer is definitely the addon |
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| 05:44.01 | Shirik | I also get MTG |
| 05:44.23 | Tem | Shirik, are you signed in? |
| 05:44.31 | art3mis | hah the Badpun bandit's lair is on the top of Mt. Yermomalot |
| 05:44.42 | Shirik | nope |
| 05:44.52 | Tem | sign in and see what happens |
| 05:45.03 | Shirik | now I am, same thing |
| 05:45.08 | Tem | if I sign out, my result order changes |
| 05:45.26 | Shirik | must be something you set somewhere :P |
| 05:46.34 | Cairenn|afk | Shirik: can you use wma format? |
| 05:46.45 | Shirik | use? |
| 05:46.54 | Cairenn|afk | read, hear, whatever |
| 05:46.57 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 05:47.03 | Shirik | sure, why? |
| 05:47.04 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: its actually a free template for the cms |
| 05:47.11 | art3mis | i kind of like it |
| 05:47.17 | Tem | settings are the same when I'm logged in and when I'm logged out, Shirik |
| 05:48.15 | Shirik | quick question for any Linux/Unix gurus and/or realtime system specialists |
| 05:48.30 | Shirik | Does Linux support priority inheritance or have some other priority inversion protocol? |
| 05:49.52 | Iriel | I can only imagine the realtime libraries must include it, but it's been a long time since I knew it well enough to answer with any authority |
| 05:50.13 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, LIES!! THEIF! |
| 05:50.26 | Shirik | I still think I'm just going to use QNX, but I figured to be fair I have to check :P |
| 05:51.16 | art3mis | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=2217057&sku=O261-5074&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1557C |
| 05:51.30 | art3mis | 25$ laptop 667 ram |
| 05:51.32 | art3mis | 1gb |
| 05:51.51 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: heh nope it's actually free, I was rather happy since it's got thelook I want mostly |
| 05:51.54 | Shirik | 25$? |
| 05:52.04 | art3mis | its a "tribute to warIII" |
| 05:52.11 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i thought the same |
| 05:52.14 | art3mis | yup 5$ rebate too |
| 05:52.20 | Tem | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1cde51a84b83cedb9761092e95283fb5.jpg |
| 05:52.20 | Thunder_Child | laptop ram, not A laptop |
| 05:52.24 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:52.24 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:52.33 | art3mis | l2reed |
| 05:52.33 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was a laptop as well |
| 05:52.39 | Thunder_Child | L2Write |
| 05:52.44 | Shirik | $25 Laptop |
| 05:52.47 | Shirik | not $25 laptop ram |
| 05:52.48 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.00 | art3mis | seems rather obvious to me what it is |
| 05:53.02 | Shirik | $25 667 laptop ram |
| 05:53.05 | art3mis | but then again I'm not a retard |
| 05:53.19 | Thunder_Child | are you sure your not? you wrote it |
| 05:53.27 | Shirik | You don't see me going around saying "Christmas 6 foot tree" |
| 05:53.28 | Shirik | no |
| 05:53.32 | Shirik | I say "6 foot christmas tree" |
| 05:54.01 | WobWork | or 6 footed christmas tree =) |
| 05:54.09 | art3mis | if christmas was the price then no that would be wrong |
| 05:54.29 | art3mis | $25 Christmas 6' tree |
| 05:54.35 | art3mis | idjit |
| 05:54.49 | Shirik | who the hell says christmas 6 foot tree |
| 05:55.25 | Corrodias | i have a 6 tree foot christmas |
| 05:55.29 | art3mis | you also don't say I'm looking for some 1gb 667 ram for a laptop" "you'd say "I'm lookig for 1gb laptop 667 ram" |
| 05:56.01 | art3mis | or rather if you're in the "I deal with chinese resellers you don't ;P |
| 05:56.19 | Shirik | no you definitely don't |
| 05:56.57 | art3mis | you specify the type of ram you want before the ram statement |
| 05:57.12 | art3mis | shrug |
| 05:57.15 | AnduinLothar | gorefiend down |
| 05:57.18 | Shirik | then that would be "1gb 667 laptop ram" |
| 05:57.22 | art3mis | not my fault you're idjits |
| 05:57.23 | AnduinLothar | not too hard with the right grp |
| 05:57.23 | kadrahil_ | heh i just saw wowi since the new dark theme |
| 05:57.25 | Corrodias | gorefiend, is he in BWL? |
| 05:57.25 | kadrahil_ | looks neat |
| 05:57.31 | AnduinLothar | BT |
| 05:57.35 | Corrodias | oh. grats. |
| 05:57.37 | art3mis | new wowi theme? |
| 05:58.03 | art3mis | with HORRIBLE blinky red ads |
| 05:58.32 | Tem | art3mis, l2donate imo |
| 05:58.42 | Shirik | what ads? |
| 05:58.44 | kadrahil | l2collegestudent :( |
| 05:58.46 | art3mis | would it be better for me just to not go to there because of that or to use an adblock script like 90% of this channel? |
| 05:58.51 | Tem | <-- college student |
| 05:58.58 | Shirik | <-- college student |
| 05:59.00 | Tem | also, adblock |
| 05:59.03 | Tem | <3 |
| 05:59.09 | kadrahil | :) |
| 05:59.20 | art3mis | adblock defeats the purpose and you waste thier bw without any compensation |
| 05:59.29 | Tem | wowi gets money even if the ads don't load imo |
| 05:59.29 | art3mis | you may as well not visit the site if you're gonna be an ass about it |
| 05:59.43 | Tem | besides, I don't have ads on there anyway because I'm FA |
| 05:59.56 | art3mis | better expand that acronym ;P |
| 06:00.13 | art3mis | cuz techncially I'm a FA ;P |
| 06:00.22 | art3mis | only I bet mine is completely different than yours ;P |
| 06:00.24 | Tem | Featured Artist |
| 06:00.40 | art3mis | not Fsckin' Arsehole? |
| 06:00.43 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:00.56 | art3mis | thudner: whatcha think of the new theme though? |
| 06:00.59 | art3mis | thunder even |
| 06:03.05 | Tem | new theme? |
| 06:03.11 | Tem | you mean the new stuff from last week? |
| 06:03.12 | Cairenn|afk | all of you, l2reportwithdetailsaboutannoyingads |
| 06:03.15 | art3mis | on that palce I'm not gonna mentino |
| 06:03.36 | Corrodias | first i have to l2care |
| 06:03.54 | art3mis | Cairenn|afk: every ad for the virtual I'M place, and all valentines ads ;P |
| 06:03.58 | art3mis | err MI |
| 06:04.07 | art3mis | fuckign inline spell corrector |
| 06:04.20 | Cairenn|afk | art3mis: I have no idea what ads you are talking about, I need details |
| 06:04.23 | Corrodias | actually, my flashblock means that only .gif ads can bother me, and if they're sufficiently annoying, i can right-click and nuke the object off the page |
| 06:04.38 | art3mis | zwinky |
| 06:04.41 | art3mis | that's what it is |
| 06:04.51 | art3mis | all the zwinky ads are REALLY annoying |
| 06:04.52 | Tem | another thing, wowi gets funding from ZAM |
| 06:05.01 | Cairenn|afk | fast flashing/blinking ads aren't allowed, ads with sound aren't allowed, but if people don't give us actual details about shit, there's nothing we can do about it |
| 06:05.29 | Tem | so, technically, we're just fucking the ZAM people if adblocking the ads actually means they don't get money |
| 06:05.36 | Tem | which I'm 100% okay with |
| 06:05.40 | art3mis | zam? |
| 06:05.42 | Tem | <3 wowi |
| 06:05.48 | Tem | but fuck the zam network |
| 06:05.58 | art3mis | Cairenn|afk: they aren't full blinky, they have portions of the add that are "animated" |
| 06:06.06 | art3mis | ad |
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| 06:06.17 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, ya, nice theme |
| 06:06.20 | Tem | art3mis, it's the company that bought wowi, allakhazam, wowhead, thottbot, and a few other wow-related sites |
| 06:06.26 | Tem | I think they just buy up mmo sites |
| 06:06.33 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:06.37 | Corrodias | aw, my kitties are playing |
| 06:06.45 | Cairenn|afk | not quite right, but oh well |
| 06:06.54 | Tem | Cairenn|afk, please correct me if I'm wrong |
| 06:07.00 | Tem | I want to get this right for later |
| 06:07.08 | Corrodias | little kitty wrestling, clawing at their faces and stuff |
| 06:07.28 | Tem | Corrodias, addorable |
| 06:07.31 | Tem | adorable |
| 06:07.49 | art3mis | Cairenn|afk: I do have a question though |
| 06:08.02 | art3mis | o the right side of the screen why the single skyscraper? |
| 06:08.30 | Cairenn|afk | art3mis: as opposed to what? and on which page? |
| 06:08.41 | Cairenn|afk | Tem: close enough for all intents and purposes |
| 06:08.42 | art3mis | main page |
| 06:09.01 | Tem | Cairenn|afk, so what's the nitty gritty difference? |
| 06:09.01 | Cairenn|afk | and the first question? |
| 06:09.15 | Cairenn|afk | semantics |
| 06:09.16 | art3mis | I kind of missed the full masthead, but I dunno a couple of smaller boxes? |
| 06:09.22 | art3mis | more choices? |
| 06:09.32 | Tem | art3mis, can you screenshot what you mean? I have /no clue/ what you're talking about |
| 06:09.34 | art3mis | the dark theme is nice though |
| 06:09.47 | Tem | (I'm just really curious now) |
| 06:09.55 | Thunder_Child | is art3mis being retarded again? |
| 06:10.00 | art3mis | the light theme has the tabs over the right side skyscraper ad, while the dark them does not |
| 06:10.19 | Cairenn|afk | that's all dolby-wowi's side of things art3mis, it's whatever he and the parent company worked out |
| 06:10.27 | Shirik | oh that is so messed up |
| 06:10.30 | Thunder_Child | that light theme has color issues |
| 06:10.37 | Shirik | if someone spell reflects your shadow word death |
| 06:10.44 | Shirik | and it doesn't kill you, it comes back to hit you double |
| 06:11.30 | Thunder_Child | ..why am i getting a motorola developer newsletter?? |
| 06:11.43 | Tem | Shirik, that's hilarious |
| 06:11.52 | Tem | so is using SW:D to break sheep |
| 06:13.14 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/wowi.jpg |
| 06:13.35 | art3mis | the tabs on the light are odd |
| 06:13.40 | art3mis | the tabs on the dark are perfect |
| 06:13.56 | art3mis | but that's what I see on the main page |
| 06:14.08 | art3mis | the light theme has the tabs over the rightside ad |
| 06:14.15 | art3mis | where as you can see where the dark show up |
| 06:14.23 | Tem | (yes, it's possible, and it is possible to pull it off in the heat of combat-- I've had someone do it to me) |
| 06:14.55 | art3mis | whw sw:d is awesome |
| 06:15.11 | art3mis | the best part is that it usually will only negate pw:shield never deal damage about it |
| 06:15.24 | art3mis | so you shield and blast sw:d |
| 06:15.50 | art3mis | regardless of crit of reflect it absorbs it as null damage and takes the shield |
| 06:16.49 | Tem | art3mis, if you have reflective sheild? |
| 06:17.03 | art3mis | crit or reflect |
| 06:17.25 | art3mis | priest pw:sheilds thensw:d's |
| 06:17.40 | art3mis | target spell reflects |
| 06:17.51 | art3mis | the opriginal and the reflect both take away the shield |
| 06:17.55 | art3mis | with no damage |
| 06:18.15 | Tem | no |
| 06:18.20 | Tem | not what I'm asking |
| 06:18.27 | Tem | what if you have reflective sheild |
| 06:18.34 | Tem | and hit a SW:D that doesn't kill the target |
| 06:18.45 | art3mis | oh good question |
| 06:18.46 | Tem | does your targe take damage from the sheild? |
| 06:18.51 | art3mis | I'm guessing it would hit it again |
| 06:18.59 | art3mis | that would be pretty evil |
| 06:19.13 | art3mis | someone go try that |
| 06:19.24 | Tem | I'm thinking that it wouldn't hit again |
| 06:19.29 | Tem | (to either target) |
| 06:19.35 | Tem | (you or who you hit with swd) |
| 06:19.47 | art3mis | heh could be a rather odd chain though |
| 06:20.13 | art3mis | yuo sw:d someone it comes back "hits you" does nothing reflects to them hits them again then because they didn't die you take the hit back |
| 06:20.40 | Fin | I've been wondering something for a while about PW:S, actually - maybe someone here will know the answer |
| 06:21.01 | art3mis | yes it blows because damage increases and pw:shield was never scaled ;P |
| 06:21.23 | Fin | if you've got PW:S up, and you get hit, does the damage absorbed increase if you have lower armour? (not overall damage absorbed, just for that hit) |
| 06:21.44 | Fin | PW:S was actually changed to take into account +healing if I remember rightly |
| 06:21.49 | Fin | fuck all difference it made, though |
| 06:22.09 | art3mis | really? |
| 06:22.12 | Fin | yes |
| 06:22.14 | art3mis | I've never seen that |
| 06:22.20 | art3mis | its 1400-1600ish |
| 06:22.20 | Fin | my shield absorbs about 2k damage nwo |
| 06:22.23 | Fin | -wo+ow |
| 06:22.25 | art3mis | that's all I've ever noticed |
| 06:22.29 | art3mis | neat |
| 06:22.34 | Fin | well, not really |
| 06:22.41 | art3mis | better than it was ;P |
| 06:22.45 | art3mis | oh wait |
| 06:22.48 | Fin | it's still useless after about the same level in the game :) |
| 06:22.56 | Fin | true, true, but still pants |
| 06:23.09 | art3mis | wasn't it originally smoething like 5%? |
| 06:23.23 | Fin | I don't think +heal made any difference before |
| 06:23.24 | art3mis | some imporvement is better than nothing though |
| 06:24.00 | art3mis | I've been playing shadow for so logn I'm of the opinion that if it saves holys in raids well it will simply own in pvp ;P |
| 06:24.06 | Fin | you can put talent points in, which I have, but the difference isn't enough to make it very much more useful than it already was - but hey, sure, better than a kick in the teeth |
| 06:24.36 | art3mis | yeah I dot think I've put points in it since about 1.6/1.7 |
| 06:25.01 | art3mis | wonder if the innerfire bug still exists |
| 06:25.07 | Fin | which one's that? |
| 06:25.25 | art3mis | for a while after the previous patch 2.2 I think it would run its full 10mins |
| 06:25.30 | art3mis | regardless of useage |
| 06:25.38 | Fin | oh |
| 06:25.42 | Fin | no :) |
| 06:25.46 | art3mis | back to the good old version of it |
| 06:25.50 | art3mis | that made me sooo happy ;P |
| 06:26.04 | Fin | tell you what's not fair |
| 06:26.25 | art3mis | a disc priest running around in ironweave and innerfire with 8k ac? |
| 06:26.26 | Fin | priest buffs using up sacred candles in the free-cast period before a BG and after dying |
| 06:26.34 | Fin | heh |
| 06:26.39 | art3mis | yeah that's pretty lame |
| 06:26.48 | art3mis | the group buffs for druids do though as well |
| 06:26.59 | Corrodias | and warlock have to spend soul shards on stuff still |
| 06:27.01 | art3mis | but really in BG's I don't buff people |
| 06:27.12 | art3mis | I'm in it for me, screw the rest ;P |
| 06:27.22 | Fin | I always buff people :) |
| 06:27.27 | art3mis | I don't glow black cuz I'm a team player ;P |
| 06:27.58 | Fin | I figure a) I want to be buffed b) it helps our side overall and c) it's only 8s per candle ffs |
| 06:28.17 | art3mis | yeah but I always forget to buy new ones ;P |
| 06:28.53 | Fin | I keep 60 on me always |
| 06:29.08 | art3mis | while I heal tank gets low "damn priest not doing his job" stops healing tank and runs away living and not rezznig the tank "what was that?" |
| 06:30.44 | Fin | that sentence needed more punctuation |
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| 06:34.09 | art3mis | most of mine do |
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| 06:36.48 | Shirik|zZz | brighthouse owes me honor |
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| 06:59.13 | Thunder_Child | i am reading a review on World in Conflict. I look to the side and is see "$39.99" From Best Buy and to the right of that "$49.95" digital purchase. That struck me as odd and a bit backwards |
| 07:00.07 | Thunder_Child | nvm, i followed the link, the button was incorect |
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| 07:00.26 | art3mis | heh look at the 59.99 or 69.99 in canada price and then check xe.com and see who's dollar is worth more ;P |
| 07:00.46 | Thunder_Child | it's about equal atm |
| 07:01.14 | Thunder_Child | but i dont think i feel comfortable paying $40 for a 10 hour game |
| 07:04.33 | Fin | ScytheBlade1: what does the "dock" mode do in YASMM? |
| 07:05.18 | Shirik | docks |
| 07:05.41 | Fin | docks what, where? |
| 07:06.01 | Fin | and how? |
| 07:06.03 | Shirik | it docks the related component in YASMM to the docking point :P |
| 07:06.05 | Shirik | by docking |
| 07:06.26 | Shirik | If I had to take a guess though, seriously, it would put the edges of windows together |
| 07:07.24 | Fin | I want to know if it hides the minimap somehow - docks it into some tab or something (like LightHeaded when you click the edge) |
| 07:07.38 | Shirik | no idea, I don't use it =( |
| 07:08.24 | Fin | well thanks for answering anyway! I commend your dedication to the education of everyone, everywhere, everytime. |
| 07:08.46 | Thunder_Child | wether they want it or not..... |
| 07:09.45 | Fin | only after education has been achieved can the ignorant know whether they require enlightenment |
| 07:10.33 | Shirik | ironic, isn't it |
| 07:10.36 | Thunder_Child | like the matrix though, sometimes you wish you had "just taken the blue pill" |
| 07:10.44 | Shirik | Oh I definitely don't |
| 07:11.05 | Thunder_Child | sometimes knowing can bring more crap than being ignant |
| 07:11.31 | Shirik | that's a great reason to pretend to know everything |
| 07:12.01 | Fin | I do know everything |
| 07:12.42 | Fin | it's one of the great philosophical questions of life: dumb and happy or enlightened and frustrated as fuck? |
| 07:13.24 | Thunder_Child | that sounds more like enlightened and horny |
| 07:13.26 | Fin | there's only one way to find out, I say |
| 07:13.36 | Shirik | I prefer the latter |
| 07:13.50 | Shirik | It's more fun to beat your head against something until it works |
| 07:13.52 | Fin | I am scheduled for a lobotomy next week in the name of science |
| 07:13.58 | Shirik | anyway, I have to go to sleep if I have any chance of being up in time for class |
| 07:14.06 | Thunder_Child | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Shirik |
| 07:14.08 | Fin | sleep well! |
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| 07:14.23 | Shirik|zZz | Thunder_Child: Yes, I know, how can you live without my omnipotent presence?! |
| 07:14.36 | Fin | make it an omnipotent omnipresence |
| 07:14.41 | Thunder_Child | umm....if you were omnipotent you would know that |
| 07:14.41 | Fin | problem solved |
| 07:14.56 | Shirik|zZz | night :P |
| 07:15.00 | Thunder_Child | night Shirik|zZz |
| 07:15.30 | Thunder_Child | crap...now it's just me and you Fin |
| 07:15.33 | Thunder_Child | ah... |
| 07:15.38 | Fin | well hey |
| 07:15.56 | Fin | fancy a bit of... wine with your cheese? |
| 07:16.00 | Fin | wait |
| 07:16.06 | Fin | oh never mind |
| 07:17.06 | MentalPower | night |
| 07:17.12 | Thunder_Child | night MentalPower |
| 07:17.14 | Fin | night |
| 07:17.19 | Corrodias | 'ni |
| 07:17.28 | Thunder_Child | everyone is leaving Fin and it's your fault |
| 07:17.33 | Fin | do I smell? |
| 07:17.38 | Thunder_Child | and no art3mis & Corrodias dont count |
| 07:17.40 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|Zzzz |
| 07:17.45 | Thunder_Child | not Cairenn |
| 07:17.46 | art3mis | hey I can count! |
| 07:17.48 | Thunder_Child | s/not/nor/ |
| 07:17.59 | art3mis | only to 3 since that july 1st accident though |
| 07:18.06 | Fin | first you must have meaning! |
| 07:18.07 | Fin | and numbers |
| 07:19.53 | Fin | one is the loneliest number that you'll ever do |
| 07:19.57 | Fin | two can be as bad as one |
| 07:20.06 | Fin | (it's the loneliest number since the number one) |
| 07:20.16 | Thunder_Child | damit....now you have that song stuck in my head |
| 07:20.24 | Fin | three is the greatest number ever! |
| 07:20.43 | Corrodias | you fascist heathen. it's 2. |
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| 07:21.04 | Fin | it rules supreme, mighty number of huge proportions, cutting huge swathes of lesser numbers down as it crusades the number universe gleaming with splendour and glory |
| 07:21.44 | Fin | 3 shall never fail! it shall never falter! it will prevail through all adversity! |
| 07:21.47 | Fin | long live 3! |
| 07:23.02 | Thunder_Child | actually 3 is a very very good number |
| 07:23.58 | Fin | what's the word, when you pay your <x> to some sort of deity on a regular basis so as to appease it? not "dues", but something like that |
| 07:24.15 | Fin | it's like, paying the minimum needed to keep the deity from smiting you |
| 07:24.28 | Fin | I've been trying to think of this word for weeks now |
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| 07:27.52 | Fin | we have a winner! |
| 07:27.52 | Fin | [08:28:19] <Ellipsis> tithes? |
| 07:34.14 | Thunder_Child | really? that hard to think of the word? |
| 07:34.51 | Thunder_Child | a tithe is actually 1 tenth |
| 07:35.11 | Fin | or ten onths |
| 07:35.16 | Fin | +e |
| 07:35.17 | Thunder_Child | "A tenth part of one's annual income contributed voluntarily or due as a tax, especially for the support of the clergy or church." |
| 07:36.10 | Thunder_Child | most? |
| 07:36.33 | Thunder_Child | ~seen Fin |
| 07:36.35 | purl | fin is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 101 messages. Is idling for 1m 19s, last said: '+e'. |
| 07:37.37 | Fin | ~seen Thunder_Child |
| 07:37.38 | purl | thunder_child is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowhead. Has said a total of 89 messages. Is idling for 1m 5s, last said: '~seen Fin'. |
| 07:38.33 | Thunder_Child | meh, it only records what channel you are on that has teh bot in it |
| 07:38.48 | Fin | I think the telepathy module is still in beta |
| 07:39.04 | Cairenn | and isn't hidden |
| 07:39.34 | Thunder_Child | hidden channel with an invited bot? seems like a security breach to me |
| 07:39.38 | Fin | there is no cabal |
| 07:39.38 | Cairenn | mind you, anyone with a hidden channel would be really stupid to have a bot in it that posts public logs |
| 07:39.50 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: heh ^^ |
| 07:39.56 | Thunder_Child | ya :) |
| 07:40.13 | Wobin | hurrah |
| 07:40.16 | Wobin | severe thunderstorms |
| 07:40.21 | Wobin | This will be fun |
| 07:40.35 | Thunder_Child | i'm going to miss them :( |
| 07:40.41 | Wobin | http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDN65021.gif?foolcache=200802061822 |
| 07:41.35 | Thunder_Child | where is the lightning storm is what i want....pics ftw |
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| 07:42.49 | Wobin | well if I suddenly log out, yuo'll know why =P |
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| 07:44.13 | Thunder_Child | /kick Wobin |
| 07:46.03 | Thunder_Child | "23:44:22 [2] <Baliah>: lvl 70 hunter looking to move to this server.looking for a raiding guild that raids 9pm server [time.BM] raid spec hunter 27.57 crit 1918 atk power" <-- seems odd to me |
| 07:46.27 | Fin | ScytheBlade1: you made a typo in the readme - "So, how do you know that this realates to addons" |
| 07:50.05 | Tem | Thunder_Child, wtf is [time.BM]? |
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| 07:51.58 | Corrodias | i think he meant "time. BM" instead of "[time.BM]" |
| 07:52.02 | Corrodias | but ... just why? |
| 07:52.17 | Thunder_Child | Tem, thats prat thinking it's a link |
| 07:52.46 | Thunder_Child | url link* |
| 07:52.58 | Dezzimal | prat thinks way too much shit is a link |
| 07:53.05 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 07:53.09 | Corrodias | seems like a perfectly reasonable personal advertisement, to me |
| 07:54.02 | Fin | I fixed that! |
| 07:54.26 | Corrodias | i'm not familiar enough with hunters to estimate his gear level, though. somewhere at or past full kara gear at least, that i can say. |
| 07:54.35 | Fin | mebbe Arrowmaster reverted my changes |
| 07:54.40 | Fin | it pisses me off as well |
| 07:55.11 | Fin | OK, so, I didn't fix it |
| 07:55.17 | Fin | but I did fix something! |
| 07:56.18 | Dezzimal | imo, a link is at least two periods or one period and one forward slash in a single string |
| 07:57.20 | Fin | there's a formal definition of what a link is, the UrlCopy module's just trying to be more cleverer and helpfuller |
| 07:57.55 | Fin | OK, so, final revision: I did fix one regex that was overzealous, but there's another one as well that needs to be changed methinks |
| 07:57.58 | Fin | or, hmm, removed |
| 07:59.06 | Fin | I can't test right now because the EU servers are down |
| 07:59.24 | Thunder_Child | Fin, your doing the url linker on prat? |
| 08:00.22 | Fin | just trying to fix it, Thunder_Child |
| 08:00.42 | Thunder_Child | good..because if you had made it i would have had to kill you |
| 08:00.58 | Dezzimal | oh its not that bad Thunder_Child |
| 08:01.06 | Dezzimal | just a bit wonky |
| 08:01.09 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 08:01.22 | Fin | it's been updated by quite a lot of different people |
| 08:01.44 | Dezzimal | it doesn't miss any links for sure though |
| 08:01.52 | Fin | hah |
| 08:03.41 | Dezzimal | shit even obfuscated like this |
| 08:03.44 | Dezzimal | data:text/plain;base64,aHR0cDovL3d3dy53b3dhcm1vcnkuY29tL2NoYXJhY3Rlci1zaGVldC54bWw/cj1TdG9ybXNjYWxl Jm49TWFydGhhc3Rld3J0 |
| 08:03.47 | Dezzimal | it picks it up :D |
| 08:04.25 | Dezzimal | theres a way to make firefox actually open that |
| 08:04.42 | Fin | not just firefox |
| 08:05.28 | Fin | .icos can be embedded like that, I think it's just a standard schema... might be an MSism tho originally? I forget |
| 08:06.22 | Fin | pattern = "%f[%S]([%w_.-%%]+[%w_-%%]%.(%a%a+))%f[%A]" |
| 08:06.24 | Fin | there |
| 08:06.30 | Fin | I think I might just remove that regex |
| 08:06.58 | Fin | it's trying to match x.y.z URLs, but I reckon that's a too energetic |
| 08:07.25 | Dezzimal | two periods isn't so bad |
| 08:07.32 | Dezzimal | but something's matching only one period |
| 08:07.48 | Thunder_Child | ya, a woman |
| 08:07.54 | Fin | it's not necessarily a period - [%w_.-%%] can be anything |
| 08:08.09 | Fin | er |
| 08:08.15 | Fin | well, not anything, but you know what I mean |
| 08:08.42 | Fin | *I* know what I mean, anyway |
| 08:10.41 | Thunder_Child | you seem to be the only one |
| 08:11.33 | Fin | k, I've removed a couple of patterns from the default, and added an option /prat urlcopy zealous if you want to enable them |
| 08:12.13 | Thunder_Child | where is the /prat overzealous? |
| 08:13.03 | Fin | Arrowmaster: they were matching things like |
| 08:14.25 | Fin | -that |
| 08:15.21 | Arrowmaster | "23:44:22 [2] <Baliah>: lvl 70 hunter looking to move to this server.looking for a raiding guild that raids 9pm server [time.BM] raid spec hunter 27.57 crit 1918 atk power" |
| 08:15.28 | Arrowmaster | time.bm is a proper url |
| 08:15.33 | Arrowmaster | bm is a real tld |
| 08:16.01 | Thunder_Child | .bowel movements? |
| 08:16.20 | Arrowmaster | Bermuda |
| 08:18.40 | Thunder_Child | want a prat error? |
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| 08:20.46 | Thunder_Child | hmmm..wowi.pastey.net seems to be dead |
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| 08:21.46 | Cairenn | you're right, it does |
| 08:21.54 | Thunder_Child | so to do they all |
| 08:22.15 | Cairenn | since Es & MP are asleep |
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| 08:31.13 | Fin | sure, Thunder_Child |
| 08:31.30 | Thunder_Child | well ofc you say it now, i cant post it |
| 08:31.36 | |pez| | Aaaah, wtf, the MySQL on my server is borked?! |
| 08:31.52 | Fin | use pastebin.com or something |
| 08:32.31 | Thunder_Child | Fin, http://pastebin.com/d1512c15c |
| 08:32.37 | norgs | huh? |
| 08:32.50 | Thunder_Child | pastey is down |
| 08:32.54 | norgs | kk |
| 08:33.21 | |pez| | anyone with server experience here? :P |
| 08:33.24 | norgs | eww... 500 internal server error! |
| 08:33.41 | Thunder_Child | only the best for you norgs |
| 08:33.55 | |pez| | Wondering it it's possible for a MySQL server to just shut down... ? |
| 08:34.12 | Thunder_Child | |pez|, yes...anything can "just shut down" |
| 08:34.19 | |pez| | right |
| 08:34.24 | Fin | it can crash, but the startup scripts would normally restart it afaik |
| 08:34.33 | |pez| | then I need to figure how to manually restart it. |
| 08:34.34 | Thunder_Child | service might have stoped |
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| 08:35.37 | norgs | righto - fixed |
| 08:36.03 | Cairenn | thanks morgs |
| 08:36.10 | Thunder_Child | thanks norgs |
| 08:36.16 | Cairenn | norgs* |
| 08:36.18 | Thunder_Child | since Cairenn cant type |
| 08:36.47 | |pez| | Is "bin/safe_mysqld &" the way to start the MySQL service again? XD |
| 08:37.16 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, its all about launchd |
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| 09:18.54 | |pez| | it turns out the entire host of my virtual server is going down. |
| 09:19.00 | |pez| | and is probably being migrated to another host. |
| 09:19.27 | Kalroth | awesome |
| 09:19.33 | |pez| | Not very |
| 09:19.36 | |pez| | I almost panicked XD |
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| 09:21.39 | Marko | k, i got lua file created, toc created |
| 09:22.00 | Marko | now all i need is put a slash command to load this stuff ingame |
| 09:22.35 | Marko | wowwiki slash com page is pretty hard to understand if you just beginning this, so anyone here can tell me how to make this cmd for an add on, i got lua file for you to see |
| 09:23.12 | |pez| | I think it took me a couple of hours to sort of understand the slash thing. |
| 09:23.28 | |pez| | but I've forgotten again. |
| 09:23.50 | Marko | well, my problem is onthis page they start talking about "example you got this in your lua" etc.. where i never saw anything like that in my life |
| 09:24.02 | Thrae | Marko: Put all of your code in a function. Call the function what you will. |
| 09:24.27 | Marko | sorry, in a function? |
| 09:24.44 | |pez| | Yes, a function. |
| 09:24.58 | Marko | like breathing eh? |
| 09:25.00 | Marko | jk |
| 09:25.09 | |pez| | functions are yummy, but I can't explain... ^^;; |
| 09:25.20 | Thrae | function foo() do stuff end |
| 09:25.23 | Marko | actually i think i lost my apetite because of me |
| 09:25.25 | Marko | em |
| 09:25.27 | Marko | * |
| 09:25.41 | |pez| | I'm hungry actually. |
| 09:25.53 | Marko | hmm |
| 09:26.02 | Thrae | You actually don't even need a slash command. Are you going to be using this in a macro? |
| 09:26.08 | Marko | so you mean function inside lua file? |
| 09:26.13 | Marko | http://pastey.net/81825 |
| 09:26.25 | Marko | this is the lua file |
| 09:26.26 | Marko | i got toc already |
| 09:26.29 | Thrae | Yes, Lua is a language that has functions. |
| 09:26.47 | Thrae | What do you want to do with your addon? |
| 09:27.07 | Marko | it needs to put a bags inside the bag slot when it picks them up |
| 09:27.19 | Marko | like those in beginnger zones |
| 09:27.27 | Marko | beginner* i cant spell today |
| 09:27.55 | Marko | so a person who helped me make this told me i need slash command to load that lua |
| 09:28.05 | Thrae | Huh? If you have an empty bag slot, and pick up a bag, that automatically fills that empty slot. |
| 09:28.19 | Marko | aye |
| 09:28.32 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 09:28.40 | Thrae | OK, so what exactly is your addon suppose to do that's different? |
| 09:28.58 | Thrae | I see "Runecloth Bag" in your file -- a new player wouldn't have Runecloth Bags |
| 09:29.08 | Marko | i changed that:) |
| 09:29.12 | Marko | it was just example |
| 09:29.24 | Thrae | OK. |
| 09:30.06 | |pez| | But as Thrae said, if you pick up a new bag, it goes into a empty slot in your bag... |
| 09:30.20 | |pez| | so why is this addon needed? |
| 09:30.21 | Marko | not really |
| 09:30.43 | Marko | it goes inside the backpack |
| 09:30.49 | |pez| | Oh, like that. |
| 09:30.59 | |pez| | is it a hassle to actually equip stuff too now? XD |
| 09:31.34 | Marko | its not, just learning with easy things |
| 09:31.47 | |pez| | Aaah |
| 09:31.49 | Marko | but for me even this aint easy, see how bad i am? |
| 09:31.58 | Thrae | Marko: http://pastey.net/81834 <-- now it's in a function, see comments at top |
| 09:32.02 | |pez| | Eh, you'll learn. |
| 09:32.30 | Marko | ok, now it makes sense with this new function lines |
| 09:32.38 | Marko | ty |
| 09:32.50 | |pez| | my linode still isn't responding... :\ |
| 09:32.51 | Thrae | That's not using a slash command though, I didn't see the need |
| 09:33.02 | Marko | oh |
| 09:33.17 | Thrae | When you use /script, you can do anything you can do in Lua in that /script line |
| 09:33.31 | Thrae | You're making a global function anything can call named "BagEquipper" |
| 09:33.44 | Marko | i see |
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| 09:34.21 | Marko | i ll see if that works |
| 09:34.22 | Thrae | Marko: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTutorial <-- I think you best want to read this. It's aimed at people relatively new to programming. |
| 09:35.42 | Thrae | OK. I can play Fear for ~1 hour without playing for ~4 hours. |
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| 09:36.13 | Fin | que |
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| 09:41.49 | Marko | just tried it and get |
| 09:41.59 | Marko | Message: ..\AddOns\bagequipper\Bagequipper.lua line 8: |
| 09:42.00 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:42.08 | Marko | error |
| 09:42.22 | Fin | debug the error!!! |
| 09:42.35 | Fin | sorry that wasn't helpful, ignore me |
| 09:42.49 | Fin | I was bullied as a child |
| 09:45.03 | Marko | ok |
| 09:46.05 | Cairenn | ~devtools |
| 09:46.06 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 09:54.11 | Marko | Debug: |
| 09:54.12 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.14 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.15 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.17 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.18 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.20 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.21 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.23 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.24 | Marko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.38 | Marko | Thrae, any ideas what might cause this? |
| 09:56.26 | Cairenn | Marko: for future reference, especially when you have a lot of lines (more than 3 or so) &/or it's busy in the channel - Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net :) |
| 09:57.00 | Cairenn | not a big deal right now, the channel's rather dead |
| 09:57.10 | Cairenn | just so you know in the future is all |
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| 10:00.01 | Marko | sorry about that :p |
| 10:00.49 | Cairenn | no worries, as I said was just for future reference |
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| 10:01.17 | Marko | allright |
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| 10:09.34 | Confushizen | Why isn't it in the default client yet? <-- qft |
| 10:09.51 | Confushizen | *sigh* I'm the ony one still on the Confuwagon :| |
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| 11:02.13 | cncfanatics | will for i = 10, 1 do work ? |
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| 11:09.41 | reqol | does CHAT_MSG_LOOT fire both when looting a mob and when looting from a mailbox/bank/etc? or is there another/better event for this |
| 11:11.54 | cncfanatics | reqol: CHAT_MSG_LOOT is a log event, and as the message for both is the same its probably the same event too (I'm not 100% sure) |
| 11:16.49 | reqol | cncfanatics: thanks |
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| 11:22.06 | reqol | how can I fill a table with numeric values |
| 11:22.11 | reqol | without keys |
| 11:22.19 | reqol | constructing doesn't work |
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| 11:25.07 | Shizen | I thought you got keys no matter if you assign keys or not if you create tables ? |
| 11:25.30 | Shizen | or indexes, rather |
| 11:26.04 | reqol | I mean with consequential numeric keys |
| 11:26.47 | reqol | that are assigned by default when no keys are specified |
| 11:27.03 | reqol | anyway, you can attribute my trouble to PEBKAC |
| 11:27.07 | reqol | as usual |
| 11:30.49 | reqol | I'm guessing there isn't a way to derive an item's type, I.E. a function that would return "Container" or "Dagger" (more specifically container) or will I just need to strfind bag? |
| 11:31.05 | Shizen | uhmmm well |
| 11:31.24 | Shizen | I don't know about the current one, haven't had the need for that as of yet for any of the one I've written |
| 11:31.32 | Shizen | but rejoice, you'll get more in 2.4 ;) |
| 11:31.40 | Shizen | GetContainerFamilyType() I think |
| 11:31.43 | reqol | sweet |
| 11:32.23 | reqol | bagType = GetItemFamily(itemID | "name" | "itemLink") <--- just what i needed. won't complain that it's not here already, just happy that it will eventually be |
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| 11:38.10 | Shizen | btw reqol |
| 11:38.22 | Shizen | I'd hold off on writing anything based on CHAT_MSG_ events if I were you |
| 11:38.30 | Shizen | think they're part of the upcoming combatlogs revamp |
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| 12:31.22 | cncfanatics | cladhaire, clad|office: I want to pre-order your book, but damn amazon doesn't accept paypal :p |
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| 12:57.59 | clad|office | cncfanatics: Im' sorry =/ |
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| 13:32.27 | Olison | ~seen tuller |
| 13:32.33 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 13h 49s ago, saying: 'bah'. |
| 13:32.42 | Olison | 2d :< |
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| 13:38.47 | JoshBorke | he's been on since then, just not in a purl occupied channel |
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| 13:49.03 | Olison | o i c! |
| 13:49.15 | Olison | sounds mysterious |
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| 14:05.13 | Kaso | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/verizon-rejects-hollywoods-call-to-aid-piracy-fight/ |
| 14:05.24 | Kaso | Yah for verizon thinking for themselves |
| 14:08.42 | |pez| | c r a p, MySQL is still being stupid. |
| 14:11.13 | sysrage | pebkac |
| 14:13.45 | |pez| | sysrage: actually, it started when the host of my virtual server poofed earlier today. |
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| 14:30.28 | ralfWORK | well, I killed Omen last night |
| 14:32.35 | sysrage | killed? |
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| 14:48.37 | ralfWORK | sysrage: totally |
| 14:52.14 | sysrage | how so? |
| 15:00.06 | ralfWORK | sysrage: uhm... pew pew pew? |
| 15:00.58 | ralfWORK | someone tanks, someone heals, everyone else pewpewpew/stabstabstab? |
| 15:02.45 | clad|office | healhealheal |
| 15:03.28 | ralfWORK | yea exactly |
| 15:03.38 | ralfWORK | sorry for being a smartass, just wondering what your real question is |
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| 16:00.42 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BbUhlIEZEY |
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| 16:08.48 | |Jelly| | WTB Lunessa. |
| 16:10.30 | Lukian | 87k gold plz. |
| 16:10.51 | |Jelly| | He's not worth that much. :P |
| 16:11.13 | Lukian | he? I think I got jipped :9 |
| 16:11.29 | Cide | yep, you did |
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| 16:28.42 | TecnoBrat | LOL |
| 16:30.59 | Lopeppeppy | Why hello thar! |
| 16:31.23 | |Jelly| | hump day! |
| 16:31.37 | |Jelly| | IT'S ALL DOWN HILL FROM HERE PEOPLE! |
| 16:31.40 | zenzelezz | sounds optimistic |
| 16:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | Which one of his statements? *grin* |
| 16:32.22 | zenzelezz | obviously the first |
| 16:32.41 | Lopeppeppy | It's on my wish list, but Santa says I was a bad girl, so I get nothin'. |
| 16:32.58 | Industrial | curse has a lot more _original addons_ |
| 16:33.05 | Industrial | but its such a mess to browse |
| 16:33.06 | zenzelezz | bad girls don't get, they take |
| 16:33.11 | Industrial | no addon policy etc :( |
| 16:34.24 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz... if I could take what I want, I would. But it's not huntable, so I'm makign do with... a caesar salad. |
| 16:34.45 | zenzelezz | sure it is, you just have to know where to hunt |
| 16:35.23 | Lopeppeppy | I want one particular wildebeest. It's in a cage. My paws don't reach through, can't break the bars. So I'm eating salad while I wait for the silly beest to come out. |
| 16:35.29 | Lopeppeppy | Then I totally pounce. |
| 16:35.44 | |Jelly| | This is going places. |
| 16:35.53 | Lopeppeppy | I wish. *sigh* |
| 16:37.17 | |Jelly| | gah. i need to find my ipod. brb |
| 16:37.24 | foxlit | But is it a Perfectly Normal Beast? |
| 16:37.55 | |Jelly| | yay! |
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| 16:39.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for iPods. It is not a Perfectly Normal Beast. It's a pain in the keister beest that sulks and pouts and then randomly charges. |
| 16:39.40 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 17:03.07 | cog|work | moo |
| 17:03.20 | |Jelly| | MOO |
| 17:03.26 | cog|work | MOOO!!! |
| 17:03.37 | Fin | moo :) |
| 17:03.38 | cog|work | You know what sucks about being your own sysadmin? |
| 17:03.50 | Fin | backups |
| 17:03.56 | Fin | hardware failures |
| 17:03.57 | cog|work | reading docs that say "get this info from your admin" |
| 17:04.18 | cog|work | i r luser |
| 17:05.37 | |Jelly| | Lunessa needs to log the hell on. I got a shot of the 'sweet spot' he was giving me shit about yesterday. |
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| 17:08.01 | art3mis | cog|work: in your case s/admin/wife/g ;P |
| 17:09.05 | cog|work | this would be a lot easier if that were true :P |
| 17:09.23 | art3mis | it IS true |
| 17:09.33 | art3mis | the downside isthat wives like to teach us "lessons" |
| 17:09.38 | art3mis | and won't give straight answers |
| 17:09.40 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:09.49 | TecnoBrat | cog|work, LOL |
| 17:09.58 | TecnoBrat | Or a error message |
| 17:10.11 | TecnoBrat | "An error has occured please see your system administrator for more information" |
| 17:10.18 | TecnoBrat | I'M LOGGED IN AS ADMIN! |
| 17:10.21 | art3mis | Error Message #813: Was left blank to irritate you. |
| 17:11.06 | TecnoBrat | http://www.etre.com/images/blog/no_error.jpg |
| 17:11.11 | TecnoBrat | Thats the best error ever. |
| 17:11.55 | TecnoBrat | or the old windows 2000 bug when authing against kerberos "Your password must be at least 18770 characters and cannot repeat any of your previous 30689 passwords. Please type a different password. Type a password that meets these requirements in both text boxes." |
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| 17:23.59 | foxlit | TecnoBrat: You're clearly not the system administrator, though. System administrators do not get errors :P |
| 17:24.52 | Kalroth | TecnoBrat: http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200802/error'd/26092007036.jpg |
| 17:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | Sysadmins CAUSE errors. :) |
| 17:25.29 | Kalroth | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200802/error'd/blank_desktop.png hahahah |
| 17:25.54 | TecnoBrat | haha foxlit |
| 17:26.03 | TecnoBrat | Kalroth, ROFL |
| 17:26.04 | TecnoBrat | hahahahaa |
| 17:26.08 | Cide | meh |
| 17:26.18 | Cide | "Hide desktop icons" ftw |
| 17:26.25 | Cide | not that funny :P |
| 17:26.33 | TecnoBrat | no the 2nd one was lame |
| 17:26.36 | Kalroth | uhm |
| 17:26.40 | Kalroth | hide what icons? |
| 17:26.45 | TecnoBrat | the Chosen Personality Not Available = funny |
| 17:26.48 | Kalroth | the desktop is empty |
| 17:26.51 | TecnoBrat | Kalroth, desktop icons? |
| 17:27.06 | Cide | ... |
| 17:27.09 | Cide | you can hide all desktop icons |
| 17:27.10 | TecnoBrat | Kalroth, Right click |
| 17:27.12 | Cide | making it look empty |
| 17:27.13 | TecnoBrat | Arrange icond |
| 17:27.19 | Cide | that doesn't mean you don't have stuff on your desktop |
| 17:27.20 | TecnoBrat | click off show icons |
| 17:27.26 | TecnoBrat | Boom, hidden icons |
| 17:27.44 | Kalroth | oh, I never use the desktop, wasn't aware of that |
| 17:27.50 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 17:28.00 | Kalroth | I got like 8 icons on it now, dunno where they came from :/ |
| 17:28.28 | TecnoBrat | I wish I had 6 |
| 17:28.39 | TecnoBrat | but aparantly our network is misconfigured |
| 17:28.49 | TecnoBrat | because any time I login, all of my deleted icons come back |
| 17:29.06 | Lopeppeppy | Your network has the keyloggerz, oh noes! |
| 17:29.20 | TecnoBrat | I think its infected with the MS virus |
| 17:29.43 | Lopeppeppy | Fata. |
| 17:29.46 | Lopeppeppy | Fatal, even. |
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| 17:41.57 | Esamynn|Work | yes, the MS virus, it's serious, the most common variety is known as "Windows" 8) |
| 17:42.07 | dieck | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.21 | Esamynn|Work | ~thatmany |
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| 17:43.03 | Fin | apparently a lock could possibly solo it |
| 17:43.16 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 17:43.19 | Fin | not that I would want to see that proven, god it would be boring |
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| 17:43.45 | Esamynn|Work | Fin: it is possible for a warlock to solo heroic underbog.... so I believe they might be able to do Omen |
| 17:44.20 | Fin | it is? that's interesting, I'd quite like to see a speeded up version of that :) |
| 17:45.06 | nevcairiel | it was |
| 17:45.09 | nevcairiel | they fixed that iirc |
| 17:45.30 | Esamynn|Work | the lock I know who solo'd heroic underbog, well, it took him 5 or 6 hours and many many deaths ;) |
| 17:45.56 | Josh_Borke | hence sped up version ;-) |
| 17:46.13 | Josh_Borke | youtube has a video of second boss being solo'd |
| 17:48.18 | foxlit | How the heck do you solo the end boss? |
| 17:48.51 | nevcairiel | he moves slow |
| 17:48.53 | nevcairiel | very slow |
| 17:48.53 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:48.58 | Kalroth | Exploit ledges? :) |
| 17:49.12 | nevcairiel | you have to kite him through like the entire instance |
| 17:49.12 | foxlit | Are there any, in the strider area? |
| 17:49.14 | nevcairiel | and bag |
| 17:49.20 | foxlit | He resets? |
| 17:49.25 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 17:49.33 | nevcairiel | at least back then he didnt |
| 17:49.53 | foxlit | Used to be a safe way to salvage from a wipe - run out of the room, lose threat, done |
| 17:54.05 | zenzelezz | like Kael |
| 17:54.28 | zenzelezz | was fun to hear Vent when we found out they "fixed" that |
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| 18:00.09 | zenzelezz | "In another stunning blow to the security and integrity of Diebold's electronic voting machines, someone has made a copy of the key which opens ALL Diebold e-voting machines from a picture on the company's own website." |
| 18:00.11 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 18:00.31 | ralfWORK | wtb enhance shaman :( |
| 18:00.49 | Esamynn|Work | ralfWORK: for? |
| 18:00.59 | |Jelly| | Is there a way to export to say .. a text document the names of all the folders in a certain folder? |
| 18:01.18 | ralfWORK | Esamynn|Work: for preparing for 25 mans |
| 18:01.32 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 18:01.44 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: in Windows? |
| 18:01.48 | |Jelly| | yeah |
| 18:02.07 | zenzelezz | there's a SendTo powertoy that has a "Clipboard as name" at least |
| 18:02.08 | |Jelly| | Vista if you'd like firewood for the flames. |
| 18:02.28 | ralfWORK | who was asking about Omen? |
| 18:02.40 | zenzelezz | obviously that powertoy requires you to do more work than you may have wanted |
| 18:03.07 | |Jelly| | essentially, I want a list of all my addons that I can c/p and the addons.txt doesn't seem to have them all. |
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| 18:03.55 | Esamynn|Work | |Jelly|: well there are only directories in the AddOns folder, right? |
| 18:03.58 | [dRaCo] | |Jelly|: google for DropIt!, little tool to do exactly that |
| 18:04.00 | |Jelly| | What would be even better is if said list could have all the enabled ones ... only. :P |
| 18:04.10 | Esamynn|Work | oh |
| 18:04.12 | Esamynn|Work | :P |
| 18:04.56 | |Jelly| | Certain people who shall remain nameless want me to release my UI and well, I only use half the addons in the folder at any given time. |
| 18:05.14 | Esamynn|Work | tell em to make their own! |
| 18:05.28 | |Jelly| | I would but... |
| 18:05.30 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 18:06.39 | kd3 | whee for waking up to half of my uplink being busted... again |
| 18:07.53 | art3mis | yay for buckley's! |
| 18:08.03 | art3mis | my froat is all gooder and now I only have the sniffles |
| 18:09.47 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart3mis |
| 18:09.48 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 18:10.06 | Esamynn|Work | that's for mangling the English language worse than you normally do |
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| 18:16.28 | art3mis | that's cuz I'm sick |
| 18:17.11 | Fin | |Jelly|: dir /b c:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns (eg) |
| 18:17.13 | art3mis | and if I cared about proper grammar I would correct it, but it's IRC and only the uptight losers care about proper sentance structure, punctuation and grammar |
| 18:17.17 | art3mis | so suck it hard esa |
| 18:17.18 | Fin | that should probably be quoted |
| 18:17.32 | Fin | the directory name, I mean |
| 18:17.53 | art3mis | that's some high tech gym |
| 18:18.01 | art3mis | he can change his nick from there ;P |
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| 18:18.10 | clad|away | ;-) |
| 18:18.13 | clad|away | i has hax |
| 18:18.15 | clad|away | for sho |
| 18:18.31 | art3mis | hey! |
| 18:18.35 | Fin | art3mis: ITYM grammer |
| 18:18.36 | art3mis | you're not away at all! |
| 18:18.47 | clad|away | umm |
| 18:18.49 | art3mis | you're a big phoney! |
| 18:18.49 | clad|away | i said i have hax |
| 18:18.55 | clad|away | i can IRC wherever I am |
| 18:18.58 | clad|away | I'm never really all the way away |
| 18:19.01 | art3mis | hey everyone clad|away is a big phoney! |
| 18:19.06 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:19.19 | art3mis | as longa s it has no webcam.... |
| 18:19.24 | clad|away | oh, iSight baby |
| 18:19.28 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:19.41 | art3mis | "dude what are you doing?" "uhhh nothing" |
| 18:20.01 | art3mis | itym? |
| 18:20.53 | kamdis | art3mis "I Think You Mean" |
| 18:23.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Fin: thanks, fixed, and it docks the minimap directly against the side of the screen |
| 18:23.10 | foxlit | "constant table overflow" |
| 18:23.41 | ralfWORK | lolwut |
| 18:24.14 | art3mis | oh |
| 18:24.21 | Fin | ScytheBlade1: thanks for the answers! :) |
| 18:24.32 | art3mis | no I dtiim gammer, as that would be wrong ;P |
| 18:24.43 | art3mis | grammer |
| 18:25.19 | Fin | grammer is funnier by 0.2 points according to the latest surveys |
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| 18:26.02 | art3mis | oh |
| 18:26.12 | art3mis | I haven't checked my blogs this mornig |
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| 18:35.31 | Crysli | Hallo. |
| 18:35.36 | |Jelly| | Hi |
| 18:37.30 | cog|work | so... umm... anyone need 4x1GB DDR2 667 non-ecc? :| art3mis: turns out my server requires ECC hence no workey... |
| 18:37.43 | ralfWORK | spelling grammar wrong ftw |
| 18:39.47 | Fin | I have a minor complaint about wowi! the two bits of the site I use most often are my favourites list, and the recently updated addons list, and there's no direct link (that I can see...) to the recently updated addons list except from the front page, which frustrates me unless I'm viewing the front page |
| 18:39.54 | Fin | that is all. |
| 18:40.06 | ralfWORK | k |
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| 18:40.39 | |Jelly| | It's about time you freaking tool. |
| 18:40.54 | |Jelly| | Sweet spot: http://i28.tinypic.com/28t81ad.jpg |
| 18:41.24 | kd3 | whee, general's still down |
| 18:41.35 | ralfWORK | general? |
| 18:41.35 | Cide | meh, you're a hunter |
| 18:41.44 | Cide | do you even care about getting silenced? :P |
| 18:41.45 | art3mis | cog|work: wow, it's either a compaq or an hp ;P |
| 18:41.51 | |Jelly| | ...what's the difference? I'm not silenced and i'm not in the blizzard. |
| 18:41.51 | cog|work | art3mis: dell |
| 18:41.54 | art3mis | or a REALLY old ibm ;P |
| 18:41.55 | Cide | I know |
| 18:41.59 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:42.00 | Cide | I'm just saying |
| 18:42.14 | art3mis | that's kinna crappy |
| 18:42.21 | |Jelly| | You're just saying that you wanted a screenshot, so I got you one and now you're still complaining? |
| 18:42.26 | art3mis | no other ecc in yer house you can swap for? |
| 18:42.27 | Cide | ... |
| 18:42.30 | Cide | you completely misunderstood |
| 18:42.40 | |Jelly| | No, I'm not nearly as offended or 'upset' as it may sound. :P |
| 18:42.46 | Cide | good |
| 18:42.55 | art3mis | jelly makes a fatal mistake in his ui |
| 18:42.57 | ralfWORK | hmm. interesting screeny |
| 18:43.02 | art3mis | he has the time visible ;P |
| 18:43.15 | Crysli | no wai |
| 18:43.43 | ralfWORK | interesting how you resized the portraits on yourself and on your target |
| 18:43.53 | art3mis | if you can't see the time "wow is it that late? I didn't realize" becomes a valid excuse |
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| 18:44.22 | |Jelly| | Why do I care? My mommy isn't going to kick me off the computer or anything. lol |
| 18:44.40 | art3mis | my mom might when shes over ;P |
| 18:44.40 | Lunessa | ~lart |Jelly| |
| 18:44.40 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of |Jelly| |
| 18:44.44 | ralfWORK | pretty clean UI though |
| 18:45.04 | art3mis | do you acually NOT have a widescreen? |
| 18:45.04 | Crysli | Yeah. The font irks me though. |
| 18:45.17 | ralfWORK | I wish I wasn't an obsessive compulsive raid leader |
| 18:45.31 | |Jelly| | ralfWORK: *shrug* I couldn't really care less what other people think of it, which is why I rarely post shots in the Post Your UI thread |
| 18:45.57 | |Jelly| | s/couldn't really/really couldn't/ |
| 18:46.02 | Lunessa | Actually, it doesn't suck. |
| 18:46.10 | ralfWORK | and could afford to not give a crap about... anything that's not me :D |
| 18:46.25 | art3mis | but jelly |
| 18:46.26 | Lopeppeppy | I use JellyUI. *nod* |
| 18:46.34 | art3mis | how can you be emo if you don't care? |
| 18:46.42 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: in that screen, what frames are Horror and Rairran? |
| 18:46.57 | |Jelly| | Horror = tot Bairran = focus |
| 18:47.05 | cog|work | so yeah... srsly... if anyone wants this ram, i don't even know anyone in my family i can hand it down to... you give me $16 + shipping and it's yours... |
| 18:47.19 | |Jelly| | cog: email me |
| 18:47.26 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: horror is... your pet? |
| 18:47.34 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 18:47.44 | art3mis | I would cept I don't actually own anything with ddr2 in it ;P |
| 18:47.45 | Lunessa | Jelly uses a lot of the same mods I do, but arranged differently. I'm still fiddling. I STILL not happy with layout. |
| 18:48.00 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, the only thing i have to say about your UI is that the threat meter should disable itself for Shade |
| 18:48.09 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/newui.jpg |
| 18:48.23 | art3mis | I lurv my ui |
| 18:48.24 | Lopeppeppy | I'm never happy with layout. *laugh* |
| 18:48.24 | ralfWORK | Thunder_Child: lol is there a way to do so? |
| 18:48.29 | art3mis | zim and gir make me happy |
| 18:48.43 | Thunder_Child | ralfWORK, well the person who made it could |
| 18:49.11 | Fin | pasting a URL to a shot of your UI to an IRC channel is asking for critique whether you like it or not! |
| 18:49.27 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, you should know better, just because you dont ask for it..... |
| 18:49.29 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: I actually like it, so I hope you don't think I was critiquing it |
| 18:49.35 | Thunder_Child | damit Fin.. |
| 18:49.39 | Lunessa | I would DIE trying to play on that art3mis |
| 18:49.42 | |Jelly| | I was more or less responding because of my general apathy towards all remarks. |
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| 18:49.44 | art3mis | Fin: critque mine!?!?! |
| 18:49.50 | art3mis | Lunessa: laugh why? |
| 18:49.55 | Crysli | While we're at the whole critiquing thing: |
| 18:50.00 | ralfWORK | mine is pretty much busy and craptastic |
| 18:50.03 | Lunessa | You're a clicker. |
| 18:50.20 | Crysli | I need some new colors for my vast bars. Ideas? www.wow.crysli.dk/september014-2.jpg |
| 18:50.22 | art3mis | the bars all swap depending on shape and combat |
| 18:50.25 | Lunessa | I'm a hybrid I hot-key lots, and click what I can't easily remember. |
| 18:50.26 | art3mis | and nope |
| 18:50.32 | |Jelly| | 400 ERROR! |
| 18:50.34 | art3mis | I'm not a key only but I'm not a clicker |
| 18:50.38 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: heh. I do the same. |
| 18:50.42 | Cide | key only ftw |
| 18:51.00 | art3mis | most of that stuff on the left is just crap I rarely use and can never remember the keys for ;P |
| 18:51.04 | Thunder_Child | Not even 400 for me |
| 18:51.04 | Thunder_Child | Bad Request |
| 18:51.04 | Thunder_Child | Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand. |
| 18:51.11 | Lunessa | Are you a southpaw? |
| 18:51.16 | cog|work | ~seen malreth |
| 18:51.19 | purl | malreth <n=malreth@rrcs-67-78-38-61.sw.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 3h 49m 6s ago, saying: 'wait, was I talking about sex instead?'. |
| 18:51.22 | art3mis | nope |
| 18:51.27 | Thunder_Child | oh wait..that is.. |
| 18:51.28 | Crysli | Hm. http://wow.crysli.dk/september014-2.jpg works |
| 18:51.29 | art3mis | but my keypad is there |
| 18:51.30 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 18:51.34 | Cide | mind vision ctrl+b, mind control ctrl+t, mind soothe shift+q, resurrection 0 |
| 18:51.40 | art3mis | my saitek "gamers" keuypad |
| 18:51.45 | Cide | ftw. |
| 18:51.49 | ralfWORK | inner focus + mind vision = win |
| 18:51.51 | art3mis | I oly use that to play |
| 18:51.53 | |Jelly| | your font+shadow makes me cry tears of blood |
| 18:52.06 | Fin | art3mis: arty! nice looking overall, very cool, but I'd like to see how it is to use. also I'm not a fan of the blocky chatframe border. crazy cartoon characters I don't know the name of are great! lastly I'd use the curved-corner skin of SMM and stick it up in the top right. 7.5/10, pending actual usage reviews. |
| 18:52.39 | Cide | 0.0/10 from me, just because I'm an ass |
| 18:52.55 | Cide | don't take it personally |
| 18:52.55 | art3mis | laugh |
| 18:52.57 | ralfWORK | ahahahahaha |
| 18:52.57 | Cide | actually, please do |
| 18:53.06 | art3mis | ya know I always forget that it has that shape for the miimap |
| 18:53.11 | art3mis | minimap |
| 18:53.26 | art3mis | Fin: and that's Invader Zim and Gir ;P |
| 18:53.28 | Fin | hope I didn't offend! just my opinion :) |
| 18:53.31 | art3mis | go elarn about them |
| 18:53.35 | art3mis | and love them! |
| 18:53.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:53.42 | ralfWORK | I do love Zim and Gir |
| 18:53.52 | ralfWORK | I don't know that I would have them on my UI though |
| 18:53.53 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:53.54 | Fin | they look like the kind of cartoon characters I would like :) |
| 18:54.04 | art3mis | johene vasquez |
| 18:54.10 | art3mis | johnen |
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| 18:54.23 | art3mis | the guy who made johnny the homocidal maniac ;P |
| 18:54.26 | art3mis | and filler bunny! |
| 18:54.36 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: do you find your target's cast bar to be in a good place to watch? |
| 18:54.53 | |Jelly| | Sure. |
| 18:54.58 | Crysli | How come I don't notice that I've forgotten to turn off the Omen warnings until now? |
| 18:55.10 | art3mis | Cide: nothing you say hurts me because I know deep inside of yuo that it feels good ;P |
| 18:55.12 | art3mis | err |
| 18:55.12 | Lunessa | I use a munged version of Halcyon's UI layout. I tweaked it, but it's still not exactly what I want. |
| 18:55.19 | ralfWORK | I dunno if hunters even watch casting bars realy |
| 18:55.20 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 18:55.25 | Cide | art3mis: calling people stupid makes me feel really good |
| 18:55.30 | art3mis | oh |
| 18:55.33 | Cide | art3mis: calling people stupid makes me feel really good, stupid* |
| 18:55.38 | art3mis | I'm not stupid I'm advaanced |
| 18:55.45 | ralfWORK | hehe |
| 18:55.46 | Cide | no, you're stupid. mmmmmmmm |
| 18:55.52 | ralfWORK | no, he's advanced |
| 18:56.09 | art3mis | I'm ruuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnninnngggggggg wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooOOOOOOOOeeeeeeeeeee |
| 18:56.14 | Fin | it's 0.6 points funnier if you say "your stupid"! so say recent studies |
| 18:56.14 | Lunessa | The giant rubber pants commmand him. |
| 18:56.18 | Cide | stupid troll is stupid |
| 18:56.20 | art3mis | yes they do ;P |
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| 18:56.33 | art3mis | radioactive rubber pants! |
| 18:56.38 | Cide | Fin: I can't do that :/ it makes me want to kill myself |
| 18:56.41 | ralfWORK | clearly no one but art3mis and I have seen Zim :P |
| 18:56.43 | art3mis | OF PAIN! |
| 18:57.09 | art3mis | I watch hwelloweenies and most terrible xmas ever each year at the holidays ;P |
| 18:57.12 | Fin | Cide: I take it you've never advanced to "your stupid lol" then? it's teh ultimate insult! |
| 18:57.37 | Fin | so say recent studies |
| 18:57.46 | ralfWORK | Fin: you study alot! |
| 18:57.49 | art3mis | Fin: ingame he prefaces everything with [yer dum] |
| 18:57.52 | Cide | your stupid and you're mom is stupid |
| 18:57.57 | Cide | oh god, kill me now |
| 18:58.04 | Josh_Borke | you mean you are? |
| 18:58.05 | |Jelly| | ~kill Cide |
| 18:58.06 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudoneutrino gun at Cide |
| 18:58.11 | |Jelly| | owned |
| 18:58.17 | art3mis | heh |
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| 19:00.19 | sacarasc | can anyone here help me with Atlasloot? I load it and can only access a "test" page which has season 1 weapons on it and nothing else |
| 19:00.57 | Crysli | sacarasc: did you get the modules as well? |
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| 19:01.35 | sacarasc | oh, it would have been nice if they were on the same page... ;/ |
| 19:01.59 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 19:02.24 | ralfWORK | for some reason, it seems like I couldn't get Pitbull to display remaining HP on target |
| 19:02.47 | ralfWORK | I should take a look at it again and check it out |
| 19:03.10 | sacarasc | anyone know where these modules are? |
| 19:03.16 | Crysli | What do your DogTags look like? |
| 19:03.20 | ralfWORK | Crysli: hmm? |
| 19:03.49 | Crysli | You know, the tags used for PitBulls text. |
| 19:04.35 | ralfWORK | they look craptastic, because I suck at UI |
| 19:04.42 | Crysli | sacarasc: I see some on files.wowace.com, just below AtlasLoot. |
| 19:05.09 | Crysli | ralfWORK: I was referring to the tags themselves. You may be doing something wrong. |
| 19:06.26 | Lunessa | ralfWORK: Anything other than a % requires Mob Info |
| 19:07.01 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: oh really? |
| 19:07.17 | art3mis | yay |
| 19:07.18 | Lopeppeppy | sacarasc, if you can't download the modules from where you got AtlasLoot itself, I THINK it's on files.wowace.com |
| 19:07.19 | Thunder_Child | YA RLY |
| 19:07.21 | Lunessa | Yeah. Server only reports %s |
| 19:07.23 | art3mis | I got my 1 year extention for residence! |
| 19:07.37 | art3mis | soon as I get my biometrics appt I'm good for another 10 years ! |
| 19:07.41 | Lunessa | You need an addon with a database of calculated values to show anything else. |
| 19:07.53 | Lopeppeppy | huzzah, art3mis. |
| 19:08.00 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: wow. good to know. |
| 19:08.12 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, not yay....boo |
| 19:08.17 | Thunder_Child | we want art3mis to go home |
| 19:08.21 | sacarasc | it seems i had the modules, and checked "load modules on startup" and still nothing |
| 19:08.23 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: die homewrecker! |
| 19:08.23 | ralfWORK | I had no clue |
| 19:08.23 | sacarasc | it hates me! |
| 19:08.46 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, uh huh...that hurts |
| 19:08.51 | art3mis | I know |
| 19:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | Don't even start at homewrecker with me, art3mis, I'll cry. It won't be pretty. |
| 19:08.56 | ralfWORK | here's my craptastic UI |
| 19:08.57 | ralfWORK | http://i30.tinypic.com/8y4xw0.jpg |
| 19:08.58 | art3mis | you'll be alright though muffin |
| 19:09.09 | Thunder_Child | muffin? |
| 19:09.28 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: but it'll make your eyes glisten and sparkle, enhancing thier already radiant beauty ;) |
| 19:09.33 | Crysli | ralfWORK: Get rid of the Cilo texture. |
| 19:09.34 | art3mis | yes muffin |
| 19:09.40 | Thunder_Child | i can understand eating women, but i dont think she is in the mood |
| 19:09.50 | art3mis | its the most irritating and condescending word you can ever say to someone that's upset ;P |
| 19:09.55 | Thunder_Child | you have no manners art3mis |
| 19:09.56 | ralfWORK | Crysli: on... what? unitframes? |
| 19:10.22 | art3mis | I dot think luney's stuffing would taste that good with cranberries |
| 19:10.42 | art3mis | the muffin thing was to you TC ;P |
| 19:10.44 | kamdis | ralfWORK, why is Omen so big? |
| 19:10.45 | Thunder_Child | thanks art3mis, there is a mental image i will never get out |
| 19:10.57 | Lopeppeppy | I think Lunessa's stuffing would taste fine with cranberries. |
| 19:11.00 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: np I'm there for ya big guy |
| 19:11.13 | ralfWORK | kamdis: eh. no particular reason. |
| 19:11.16 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: back to your kitchen meatpie maker! |
| 19:11.24 | ralfWORK | so I can make sure I watch it :P |
| 19:11.26 | Lunessa | Of course dear, I haz secret recipe. |
| 19:11.53 | art3mis | lots of potassium and vitamin c? |
| 19:11.59 | ralfWORK | kamdis: are you refering to scale, height or width? |
| 19:12.20 | kamdis | all of those. mostly width struck me first. |
| 19:12.26 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa's potassium brings all the girls to the yard? |
| 19:12.28 | ralfWORK | k |
| 19:12.47 | ralfWORK | kamdis: I had my Recount down ther etoo |
| 19:12.50 | Thunder_Child | gah, my breakfast is going to come back up |
| 19:12.57 | ralfWORK | then I realized, I play better with recount being hidden |
| 19:12.57 | art3mis | its a good thing yer a priest ralf |
| 19:13.07 | kamdis | it just seems to me that with that big bar at the bottom you could fit a lot more things and have a clearer view. |
| 19:13.09 | Lunessa | I prefer to think of it as plutonium... |
| 19:13.20 | ralfWORK | so I just made the Omen window wider :D |
| 19:13.27 | kamdis | grid *and* pitbull raid frames? |
| 19:13.30 | kamdis | ionno |
| 19:13.39 | ralfWORK | told you I fail :) |
| 19:13.40 | kamdis | as long as it works for you |
| 19:13.43 | art3mis | kamdis: quickly stop that line of thinking! |
| 19:13.44 | ralfWORK | naw, it doesn't |
| 19:13.46 | art3mis | you'll go mad! |
| 19:13.48 | kamdis | ~fail ralfWORK |
| 19:13.49 | purl | ralfWORK: Fail. |
| 19:13.56 | art3mis | mad I say mwahahahahaha! |
| 19:13.57 | Thunder_Child | your not healing as a SP..why bother? |
| 19:13.59 | ralfWORK | I need to get more crap off the screen |
| 19:14.07 | ralfWORK | Thunder_Child: because I was bouncing back and forth |
| 19:14.31 | Thunder_Child | ah, well you might want to try praid, very nice very compact raid frames |
| 19:14.38 | kamdis | I shouldn't talk anyway, I can't design my own UIs at all. |
| 19:14.40 | Lopeppeppy | Plutonium is a mage in my raid group, I'm not eating him. |
| 19:14.54 | ralfWORK | I love grid while healing |
| 19:14.55 | |Jelly| | ~hug kamdis |
| 19:14.55 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs kamdis |
| 19:15.11 | ralfWORK | I probably need to remove the portraits from the pitbull raid frames though |
| 19:16.24 | ralfWORK | I hold on to grid for the aggro dot though... guess if I made the pitbull frames indicate that better, I'd be good to go |
| 19:17.00 | Crysli | You can do that with both health bar color and text color. |
| 19:17.16 | Thunder_Child | if you want to get mores stuff off the screen, why are you holding on to the LESS compact stuff? |
| 19:17.17 | ralfWORK | Crysli: ya, it does healthbar color, but it doesn't pop to me for some reason |
| 19:17.36 | ralfWORK | Thunder_Child: because I fail :P |
| 19:17.44 | Thunder_Child | oh...well...that works |
| 19:18.12 | ralfWORK | it's hard for me to figure out what information I do not need to know |
| 19:18.22 | ralfWORK | <-- obsessive compulsive raid leader |
| 19:18.36 | kamdis | I would go with Grid and drop the PitBull raid frames, but that's just me. |
| 19:18.46 | Thunder_Child | i use grid and prat |
| 19:18.48 | |Jelly| | <-- opposite |
| 19:18.52 | kamdis | And you could get oRA2 for MT frames. They are more compact. |
| 19:18.54 | Crysli | I agree with jelly. |
| 19:19.02 | art3mis | mt frames are great |
| 19:19.14 | art3mis | and perfectraid is too |
| 19:19.18 | |Jelly| | ralfWORK: There's a lot of information you don't need to know. |
| 19:19.20 | ralfWORK | like, do I need MT target target frame? |
| 19:19.22 | Thunder_Child | s/prat/praid/ |
| 19:19.27 | ralfWORK | probably not? maybe? idk! |
| 19:19.35 | |Jelly| | What raids are we talking about? |
| 19:19.43 | art3mis | ralk: sometimes its handy to know what target you should be dpsing ;P |
| 19:20.01 | art3mis | it lists all the mt/ma's ad thier targets and thier targetws target |
| 19:20.05 | ralfWORK | art3mis: MT target, sure. What about MT target target |
| 19:20.16 | art3mis | in 1 happy little box |
| 19:20.16 | |Jelly| | Because in my experience, as a healer, you should know who the MT is regardless. lol |
| 19:20.18 | ralfWORK | probably useless |
| 19:20.41 | |Jelly| | Don't need the extra clutter but before you removed that, I'd pick Pitbull or Grid and be happy. lol |
| 19:20.41 | art3mis | and if yer not healing ditch grid |
| 19:20.50 | art3mis | and if you re healing ditch everything but grid |
| 19:20.51 | art3mis | ;P |
| 19:20.56 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: agreed. I nede to ditch it. |
| 19:21.06 | ralfWORK | art3mis: hahahaha |
| 19:21.19 | ralfWORK | you missed the bit about being raid leader didn't you :) |
| 19:21.24 | |Jelly| | imo, you don't need threat or cast bars on your pitbull frames either. |
| 19:21.24 | art3mis | nope |
| 19:21.36 | art3mis | fuck em, if they haven't figured out what they'are doing.... ;P |
| 19:21.39 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: hmm. good point. |
| 19:21.46 | ralfWORK | art3mis: ahh how I would love to do that. |
| 19:21.54 | art3mis | it's simple |
| 19:22.14 | art3mis | "tonight we're playing weakest link, you fail ONCE at your job and yuo're removed until next week" |
| 19:22.26 | ralfWORK | that's another discussion for another time |
| 19:22.29 | art3mis | hehe |
| 19:22.34 | art3mis | have a raffle for open slots ;P |
| 19:22.39 | art3mis | peopole life raffles |
| 19:22.44 | |Jelly| | As a raid leader, you might think about having a setup like mine (10 stacked top to bottom as opposed to 5 and 5) and then maybe have raid target target name or something just to make sure everyone's on the same target or something. I dunno. |
| 19:22.57 | |Jelly| | I lead raids and never really needed any of that though. :-\ |
| 19:23.08 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: yea, I like the 10-stack you have... I may do that |
| 19:23.24 | ralfWORK | remove the threat bar and the caster bars from them |
| 19:23.26 | ralfWORK | and the portraits |
| 19:23.29 | ralfWORK | squish em up some |
| 19:23.32 | |Jelly| | I don't know. I'm pretty anal about my UI too so eh. |
| 19:23.40 | ralfWORK | and I should be good to go |
| 19:23.58 | ralfWORK | I do know that none of that is gonna work for 25 man stuff :P |
| 19:24.13 | |Jelly| | What? |
| 19:24.19 | |Jelly| | Stacking the frames? |
| 19:24.20 | ralfWORK | that = my UI |
| 19:24.23 | art3mis | high cairenn |
| 19:24.32 | Cairenn | omghi! |
| 19:24.33 | |Jelly| | ahh ... well, how far off of 25 man are you? |
| 19:24.41 | sacarasc | hah! sorted it... needed the right version of Atlas |
| 19:24.42 | art3mis | hehe watched the rick mercer report a little bit ago |
| 19:24.44 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: about 15 people! ;) |
| 19:24.52 | |Jelly| | So quite some time. |
| 19:24.55 | art3mis | I've got the work "Torontarded" stuck in my head |
| 19:25.09 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: yea it'll be a bit. still would like to have my UI ready for it before the raid is ready for it |
| 19:25.22 | |Jelly| | I wouldn't completely write off 25 man setups, but definitely don't make it a deciding factor in something in your UI quite yet. |
| 19:25.36 | ralfWORK | k |
| 19:26.07 | kd3 | ah, the great thing about my setup is that the 10-25-40 man modes are all exactly the same |
| 19:26.08 | kd3 | grid <3 |
| 19:26.16 | ralfWORK | kd3: :) |
| 19:26.25 | art3mis | Cairenn: oh I got my temp 1 year extension while iw ait for my biometrics appt for my 10year card |
| 19:26.30 | art3mis | I'm kinna happy |
| 19:26.38 | art3mis | this means I can travel outside of the country soon! |
| 19:26.42 | Cairenn | nice! |
| 19:26.46 | Cairenn | congrats |
| 19:26.49 | art3mis | thanks! |
| 19:27.26 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: what raid frames are you using? |
| 19:27.31 | |Jelly| | Pitbull. |
| 19:27.38 | ralfWORK | ok |
| 19:27.44 | ralfWORK | so I can make it do that |
| 19:27.45 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:27.46 | |Jelly| | </3 Grid *antagonizes Kamdis* :P |
| 19:28.20 | Crysli | I find Grid annoying to set up. |
| 19:28.26 | ralfWORK | Crysli: it is :) |
| 19:28.35 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.43 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2008/01/gridmenus.png *credits to Kamdis for the link; I don't know who made it originally though* |
| 19:29.30 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: so it looks like your healthbars are grey, but turn red if they have aggro? |
| 19:29.54 | |Jelly| | Yeah. Banzai module in Pitbull. |
| 19:30.08 | ralfWORK | a contrast like that could help alot. *that* is useful information |
| 19:30.21 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: hmm... banzai does which part? aggro detection? |
| 19:30.40 | |Jelly| | iirc, just the color |
| 19:30.52 | ralfWORK | (I can't remember what all the modules do, and I'm not at a WoW machine now |
| 19:30.57 | ralfWORK | ah k |
| 19:31.16 | Crysli | Usually the name of the module gives it away. :) |
| 19:31.22 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:31.28 | ralfWORK | Banzai doesn't tell me anything |
| 19:31.31 | |Jelly| | http://i27.tinypic.com/202uh.jpg to assure you that I heal on that UI too. lol |
| 19:31.31 | ralfWORK | other than karate kid |
| 19:32.00 | |Jelly| | Comes packaged with Pitbull last i saw. |
| 19:32.03 | Crysli | Yeah, that one is a bit cryptic. |
| 19:32.20 | ralfWORK | yea it sounds familiar to me |
| 19:32.31 | ralfWORK | just didn't know what it does :D |
| 19:32.37 | ralfWORK | lololol BE |
| 19:32.37 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/02/06 - bitches love Sanskrit. |
| 19:32.38 | |Jelly| | It used to be (or still is, I'm not sure) a standalone addon but meh. |
| 19:33.02 | Crysli | Ooh, didn't read that one. Thanks for the heads-up Lunessa. |
| 19:33.23 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: maybe my eyes decieve me, but is there a mana bar under your frames too? |
| 19:33.30 | |Jelly| | yeah |
| 19:33.32 | ralfWORK | k |
| 19:34.36 | ralfWORK | ty for the offer of your UI btw, I may hit you up on that |
| 19:35.05 | ralfWORK | I do like your pitbull setup, I need to see what I can do with it |
| 19:35.45 | |Jelly| | And for the record, to any that might question me, yes, I need my health / mana on both OSH as well as Pitbull. |
| 19:35.46 | kamdis | So, am I the only person who wants to bitch slap all the people who whine about Prayer of Mending and Lifebloom healing not being reporeted to the caster? |
| 19:35.52 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 19:36.05 | kamdis | Seriuosly, I don't want them to change PoM. I don't want all that aggro, thx. |
| 19:36.06 | |Jelly| | No. I bitched out ... Horror last night for it. lol |
| 19:36.15 | Lopeppeppy | I see their point, but it's been explained as "this is the correct mechanic". So we have to live with it. Suggestion Forum -----> |
| 19:36.43 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: OSH? |
| 19:36.46 | |Jelly| | Wait wait wait wait. |
| 19:36.49 | |Jelly| | You're shadow? |
| 19:36.52 | kamdis | OnScreenHealth |
| 19:36.53 | |Jelly| | *just clicked* |
| 19:36.53 | kamdis | No |
| 19:36.57 | Lunessa | PoM = Tanks don't die on spiky damage bosses. |
| 19:36.59 | ralfWORK | yes shadow |
| 19:36.59 | |Jelly| | ...why in the hell do you need Grid? lol |
| 19:37.11 | ralfWORK | lol I told you, because I was swapping back and forth alot |
| 19:37.15 | ralfWORK | also, I fail |
| 19:37.34 | |Jelly| | You don't need like 90% of that information. I was sitting here thinking you were like main healing or something. |
| 19:37.45 | ralfWORK | I have been known to do that :) |
| 19:38.15 | ralfWORK | but yea, I need to incorporate the few bits of useful info I still use from Grid and put it into pitbull |
| 19:38.35 | |Jelly| | WTS Prat too. lol |
| 19:39.01 | ralfWORK | hmm. your UI doesn't show raid member buffs |
| 19:39.08 | |Jelly| | Cause I don't need them. |
| 19:39.15 | |Jelly| | ...shown all the time, that is |
| 19:39.30 | ralfWORK | sure.. but when you do need to know? |
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| 19:39.38 | |Jelly| | Technically? Never. |
| 19:39.55 | |Jelly| | But when I do, BigBrother / XRS both have additions that show who's missing what buffs. |
| 19:40.01 | |Jelly| | I don't currently use the latter but eh. |
| 19:40.10 | ralfWORK | oh... maybe I need that |
| 19:40.32 | art3mis | PoM is the best game too |
| 19:40.34 | ralfWORK | I have found asking the raid "ok is everyone buffed up" leads to a pull starting and then some asshat saying "omg I don't have Foobuff" |
| 19:40.50 | |Jelly| | raid kick |
| 19:40.55 | ralfWORK | yea yea |
| 19:40.58 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: you should get some buckley's! |
| 19:40.59 | Lopeppeppy | That is the problem of the asshat. If they click Okay to the ready check, it's their responsibility. |
| 19:41.10 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, I have some at home. It makes me throw up, I can't use it at work. |
| 19:41.16 | |Jelly| | Raiding shouldn't be a battle of attrition with asshats. |
| 19:41.17 | sancus | foobuff is rarely applied, screw those barclasses |
| 19:41.22 | art3mis | the taste so bad germs never come back! |
| 19:41.25 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:41.52 | art3mis | wifey accidently got me the blue label(the sugar free alcohol free version) |
| 19:41.56 | art3mis | THIS is foul |
| 19:42.05 | art3mis | it makes normal buckleys seem like koolaid |
| 19:42.07 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: it pretty much has been for me so far |
| 19:42.14 | Lopeppeppy | I think I'm going to try mixing the buckleys with molasses, see if that makes it not make me hurl. |
| 19:42.42 | |Jelly| | So tired of being booted when i alt=tab |
| 19:42.51 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: I'm totally with you though; it shouldn't be that way. |
| 19:42.56 | Lopeppeppy | The alt-tab bug getting you, |Jelly|? |
| 19:43.04 | |Jelly| | i guess |
| 19:43.08 | |Jelly| | today's been really bad |
| 19:43.16 | Lunessa | Molasses ... mmmm |
| 19:43.43 | ralfWORK | oh, dispeling, that's why I keep Grid around |
| 19:43.53 | |Jelly| | decursive |
| 19:44.00 | Lopeppeppy | Clique. |
| 19:44.09 | ralfWORK | I have clique :) |
| 19:44.30 | Lopeppeppy | So use it. *gentle shrug* It can bind dispel as easily as anything else. |
| 19:44.33 | ralfWORK | I just don't have debuffs displayed on raid members |
| 19:44.39 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: oh, I totally do |
| 19:44.40 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: you need to get a kitty ear toque as well |
| 19:44.49 | Lopeppeppy | ... art3mis. |
| 19:44.51 | art3mis | that'll stop you from getting colds ;P |
| 19:44.54 | Lopeppeppy | NMK. |
| 19:45.21 | Lopeppeppy | I've had this cold since October, it comes directly from Jerk Stress, and will end when I move out. |
| 19:45.32 | art3mis | http://kawaiinekohat.com/KNH/hats.html |
| 19:45.34 | art3mis | oe of those! |
| 19:45.40 | art3mis | I have a long bunny ear one |
| 19:46.20 | art3mis | ya know what I love about buckleys |
| 19:46.22 | Crysli | The names of my party members turn purple when they need to be decursed. No buffs displayed. |
| 19:46.32 | art3mis | the menthol in it clears up yer nose right quick |
| 19:46.41 | ralfWORK | Crysli: hmm. I see. |
| 19:46.49 | |Jelly| | the names of my party members turn purple when they're warlocks |
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| 19:47.49 | Lunessa | Warlocks = enemies turn purple from dying. |
| 19:47.50 | Crysli | A different shade of purple. |
| 19:48.31 | Lopeppeppy | They turn a funny color when I can decurse/dispel them. I do. I don't care what the actual debuff is, to be frank. I just make it stop. |
| 19:49.01 | Lunessa | ... Unstable Affliction |
| 19:49.17 | zenzelezz | lol peppy |
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| 19:50.37 | sancus | Anyone have any idea why macroing inner focus and mind blast together with /stopmacro [channeling] at the top would cause the client to always fail to display the inner focus cooldown, even in the spellbook? |
| 19:50.38 | Lopeppeppy | If they Unstable themselves and blow me up, they get docked DKP. Warlocks aren't using that on spell-reflect mobs anymore! |
| 19:50.38 | kamdis | UA isn't really an issue in PvE... |
| 19:51.37 | Lopeppeppy | Only if the warlock gets it spell-reflected onto themselves, or perhaps casts it while MC'd. |
| 19:51.39 | |Jelly| | I <3 dispelling UA in TK. lol |
| 19:52.09 | Lunessa | TK mobs suck. |
| 19:52.12 | |Jelly| | Or Mag. I don't remember which. I know I lol silence myself all the time playing whack-a-mole. |
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| 19:55.17 | ralfWORK | hahahaha |
| 19:55.26 | ralfWORK | well, I could do alot with bordering the frame too I suppose |
| 19:55.41 | ralfWORK | border blue for spells, border green for diseases |
| 19:55.51 | ralfWORK | or something |
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| 19:57.24 | ralfWORK | sancus: hmm. you inner focus mindblast? |
| 19:57.30 | sancus | of course |
| 19:57.51 | sancus | It's the best thing to inner focus if mana isnt an issue |
| 19:58.05 | ralfWORK | I generally IF SW:P |
| 19:58.15 | Cide | why? it can't crit |
| 19:58.21 | ralfWORK | mana cost |
| 19:58.41 | ralfWORK | probably need to run the numbers on it |
| 19:59.00 | |Jelly| | IF SW:D on Evocation imo |
| 19:59.04 | Lunessa | Meh, I use Inner Focus in my "Oh Shit" macro. Or my "Demon Chains" macro. |
| 19:59.08 | sancus | well yes |
| 19:59.12 | sancus | I said "if mana isn't an issue" |
| 19:59.23 | sancus | shadow priests don't pot anymore except on illidan and maybe council |
| 19:59.29 | sancus | let alone actually care what their mana is |
| 19:59.30 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: only if I pop my damage trinkets first! |
| 19:59.37 | |Jelly| | definitely |
| 19:59.56 | ralfWORK | SW:D during enfeeble = better |
| 19:59.58 | sancus | you can't run out of mana on most of the 3-5 minute encounters in the game even if you try |
| 20:01.03 | ralfWORK | sancus: erm. dunno. I guess I fail then :) |
| 20:01.03 | ralfWORK | either that or I'm cheap about mana pots |
| 20:01.03 | ralfWORK | even though I blow through probably 20 a week |
| 20:01.03 | Lunessa | I tell dumb people that if I don't get some time out of the 5-second-rule they just get to die. Ain't my fault. |
| 20:01.03 | sancus | you're wearing full T6? |
| 20:01.03 | ralfWORK | nope! |
| 20:01.03 | sancus | well, then :P |
| 20:01.08 | ralfWORK | well, I missed that bit :) |
| 20:01.24 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: but I pew pew pew |
| 20:01.30 | ralfWORK | I don't whackamole |
| 20:01.31 | sancus | but yes, at t6 with everything on farm, you pretty much dont run out of mana |
| 20:01.35 | sancus | this bug is really obnoxious though :/ |
| 20:01.41 | Lunessa | Preast r 4 hale |
| 20:01.46 | ralfWORK | sancus: oh, I can believe that |
| 20:01.54 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: mana battery > heaelz |
| 20:02.13 | Lunessa | *shrug* Not what I rolled a priest for. |
| 20:02.17 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:02.25 | |Jelly| | In case anyone was worried, the smoke alarms in my house do in fact work. |
| 20:02.33 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: kthx |
| 20:02.35 | Lunessa | If I want to pew-pew I have a 70 mage or 70 warlock. |
| 20:02.40 | dylanm | I like holy priests, but it seems like I do a lot more good as shadow. |
| 20:03.05 | ralfWORK | dylanm: of course you do; there's 1 mana battery spec in the game. there's 4 healing specs. |
| 20:03.14 | dylanm | Exactly. |
| 20:03.20 | dylanm | I was trying to think of a way to delicately put that. |
| 20:03.28 | ralfWORK | I love holy as well |
| 20:03.43 | ralfWORK | fact of the matter is, we needed more pew pew and less heal heal |
| 20:03.45 | ralfWORK | so I went shadow |
| 20:03.50 | dylanm | There's just not a ton of advantages to stacking holy priests. And the healing itself is hard to qualify as "better". |
| 20:04.05 | ralfWORK | dylanm: yep. I wish they stacked better as well |
| 20:04.16 | sancus | one circle of healing priest is good |
| 20:04.21 | ralfWORK | holy priest stacking: 2 |
| 20:04.26 | ralfWORK | 1 IDS, 1 CoH |
| 20:04.26 | sancus | 2 is not so good |
| 20:04.29 | sancus | more than 2 is a waste of time |
| 20:04.33 | sancus | IDS is arguably not worth it |
| 20:04.44 | sancus | depends on the rest of your raid comp |
| 20:04.46 | sancus | you need 5 shaman |
| 20:04.47 | dylanm | I like it :S |
| 20:04.48 | ralfWORK | sancus: I was being generous ;) |
| 20:04.51 | Lunessa | I'd be happy to have more shadow priests. If we weren't heavy on the stabbity-stabbity and Pew Pew. We don't have enough tanks/healers. |
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| 20:05.05 | sancus | if 3 of those shaman are resto, and you have 2 paladins, 1 coh priest, and 1 resto druid |
| 20:05.08 | sancus | then that's basically all the healing you need |
| 20:05.23 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: I'll trade you one of our 4 priests for an enhancement shaman :P |
| 20:05.31 | sancus | you need like 2 other healers to swap in for healing intensive encounters but thats it |
| 20:05.38 | dylanm | Shaman healing is so nice. |
| 20:06.02 | ralfWORK | I need to figure out what classes to recruit for 25 mans |
| 20:06.19 | dylanm | Is it accepted that you need resto druids now? |
| 20:06.27 | ralfWORK | to me it looks like more shaman and more paladins |
| 20:06.29 | Lopeppeppy | Tree is 4 healz. |
| 20:06.30 | ralfWORK | as we have zero |
| 20:06.36 | dylanm | I remember back when Nihilum wasn't bringing any and druid tears did flow. |
| 20:06.43 | Lunessa | Hah.. I'm alos the guild's lone enhancement shaman. |
| 20:06.53 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: boooo!\ |
| 20:06.58 | dylanm | Is still for fun! |
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| 20:07.19 | ralfWORK | dylanm: everything has been nerfed to hell and back anyways |
| 20:07.38 | ralfWORK | news flash: you can even bring ret pallys to raids lolol |
| 20:07.55 | sancus | who cares what nihilum does |
| 20:08.00 | sancus | they have some pretty clueless players |
| 20:08.23 | ralfWORK | hax |
| 20:08.24 | sancus | you want a resto druid because Lifebloom is almost broken it's so good |
| 20:08.41 | ralfWORK | sancus: didn't they nerf LB in the last patch? |
| 20:08.45 | sancus | minor nerf |
| 20:08.50 | sancus | it's still ridiculous |
| 20:08.55 | ralfWORK | I dunno |
| 20:08.58 | ralfWORK | we have a resto druid |
| 20:09.07 | ralfWORK | I like having them |
| 20:09.12 | ralfWORK | but I hate playing druids |
| 20:09.15 | sancus | if there's ever more than one tank to heal |
| 20:09.21 | sancus | basically your lifebloom druid will do the most healing out of anyone |
| 20:09.34 | ralfWORK | ProM! |
| 20:09.47 | Cide | it's PoM, people. the 'r' doesn't belong there |
| 20:10.04 | ralfWORK | when I was holy, I loved healing heroics with an offtank |
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| 20:10.09 | Cide | (and no, presence of mind doesn't count) |
| 20:10.16 | ralfWORK | Cide: sorry, I've had enough mages bitch about stealing POM |
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| 20:11.35 | ralfWORK | also, I love the PoM animation |
| 20:11.49 | ralfWORK | it looks like it's painful to get hit in the chest with |
| 20:12.07 | sancus | Cide: diaf, it's prom, pom is presence of mind and it had the name first :p |
| 20:12.32 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:12.37 | Cide | who cares about mages? |
| 20:12.39 | Shirik|Ecole | pom is prayer of mending |
| 20:12.41 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf you talking about |
| 20:12.56 | ralfWORK | I don't care about mages. I care about vending machines. |
| 20:12.59 | nevcairiel | everyone means prayer of mending when saying pom |
| 20:13.30 | Shirik|Ecole | only time pom means presence of mind is when they say "pom pyro" |
| 20:13.48 | nevcairiel | i just say instant pyro tbh |
| 20:13.50 | kamdis | It doesn't matter if they are both PoM. It should be clear from a conversation which you mean. |
| 20:13.59 | |Jelly| | context clues, people! :P |
| 20:14.02 | ralfWORK | lolcontext |
| 20:14.04 | ralfWORK | fail |
| 20:14.27 | kamdis | ~whalestab sancus |
| 20:14.28 | purl | ACTION stabs sancus with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 20:14.37 | kamdis | That's for telling Cide to diaf. |
| 20:14.47 | Shirik|Ecole | ~whalestab sancus |
| 20:14.48 | purl | ACTION stabs sancus with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 20:14.49 | Cide | I <3 him still |
| 20:15.10 | sancus | who cares about priests?!? |
| 20:15.14 | Shirik|Ecole | die |
| 20:15.15 | Shirik|Ecole | now |
| 20:15.19 | ralfWORK | not me! |
| 20:15.35 | kamdis | you're talking to at least 5 people whose mains are priests. |
| 20:15.44 | sancus | I fail to see your point |
| 20:15.48 | |Jelly| | x2 |
| 20:16.09 | sancus | 5 people whose mains are priests and yet no one knows anything about this inner focus macro bug! |
| 20:16.11 | sancus | you're all bad |
| 20:16.16 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:16.22 | |Jelly| | I'm never out of mana. *shrug* |
| 20:16.28 | kamdis | Nor am I. |
| 20:16.38 | ralfWORK | inner focus is for nubs? |
| 20:16.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't remember the last time I went below 50% tbh :P |
| 20:16.46 | sancus | err... inner focus is for crit |
| 20:16.47 | sancus | not mana :P |
| 20:16.50 | Shirik|Ecole | but inner focus is nice to use after a clearcasting |
| 20:16.54 | Shirik|Ecole | uh, you're nuts |
| 20:17.00 | sancus | for a shadow priest? |
| 20:17.03 | sancus | what else would you use it for |
| 20:17.08 | ralfWORK | sancus: how much shadow damage are you at btw? |
| 20:17.10 | Shirik|Ecole | inner focus is to remove the GCD. And shadow priests suck |
| 20:17.19 | Shirik|Ecole | er, not GCD |
| 20:17.19 | |Jelly| | IF is to buff on the cheap. |
| 20:17.20 | Shirik|Ecole | 5SR |
| 20:17.24 | Shirik|Ecole | and to buff lol |
| 20:17.28 | sancus | shadow priests are the more frequently useful and superior spec |
| 20:17.30 | sancus | so |
| 20:17.32 | sancus | yea |
| 20:17.35 | kamdis | |Jelly|++ |
| 20:17.44 | ralfWORK | just curious when you start not run out of mana |
| 20:17.45 | |Jelly| | sancus: roflamo |
| 20:17.46 | Shirik|Ecole | Okay, now that you have said that, I will no longer talk to you because you obviously have the mindset of a person who refuses to see another point of view |
| 20:17.51 | Shirik|Ecole | Have a good day |
| 20:17.54 | sancus | lol |
| 20:18.16 | Lunessa | paperchaser can kiss my fucking ass. |
| 20:18.27 | sancus | you just said shadow priests suck |
| 20:18.33 | sancus | how can anyone possibly take someone seriously who says that |
| 20:18.36 | sancus | it's just silly |
| 20:18.37 | dylanm | We do :( |
| 20:18.41 | Shirik|Ecole | Obviously it was a joke |
| 20:19.26 | ralfWORK | skeptical |Jelly| is frought with skepticism |
| 20:19.43 | Lunessa | Guys like him are the reason I don't help more people with macro issues. |
| 20:19.53 | dylanm | Who what |
| 20:19.58 | Shirik|Ecole | like |Jelly| |
| 20:20.02 | Shirik|Ecole | haxor |Jelly| |
| 20:20.08 | |Jelly| | AT ONCE! |
| 20:20.16 | sancus | Shirik: And I was definitely being serious when I said who cares about priests and that shadow priests are superior :P |
| 20:20.30 | ralfWORK | uh-oh |
| 20:20.38 | Shirik|Ecole | sancus: And I was definitely being serious when I said that you are a person whom I should not associate myself with |
| 20:20.52 | |Jelly| | so long as we're all being serious here |
| 20:20.55 | sancus | Lunessa: well I wouldn't need help if the client wasn't bugged |
| 20:20.58 | sancus | but meh |
| 20:21.13 | Lunessa | You're not the guy I'm pissed at. |
| 20:21.27 | Lunessa | Though you're not making many friends. |
| 20:21.30 | |Jelly| | Is it the tool that can't remove spyware? |
| 20:21.34 | art3mis | mmm Yop is so yummy |
| 20:21.36 | |Jelly| | Cause i'm pissed at him too. |
| 20:22.08 | Shirik|Ecole | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 20:22.13 | ThraeBot | Shirik|Ecole: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; 42/19/0 vs 43/18/0; Kimina wins by 302 TBRs! |
| 20:22.16 | Shirik|Ecole | HA |
| 20:22.21 | ralfWORK | oh snap |
| 20:22.28 | kamdis | just yesterday it was only like 100 TBRs |
| 20:22.29 | |Jelly| | !co us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 20:22.43 | |Jelly| | logged off buffed with his trinkets popped again, i'm sure |
| 20:22.49 | ralfWORK | AHAHHAHAHAAHAH |
| 20:22.54 | ralfWORK | I should start doing that |
| 20:22.56 | Shirik|Ecole | unlikely :P |
| 20:22.58 | ralfWORK | just cause I can |
| 20:23.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't have any trinkets to pop |
| 20:23.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I did get a new piece of pvp gear though |
| 20:23.14 | Shirik|Ecole | shouldn't affect it THAT much though |
| 20:23.23 | |Jelly| | i'm in my healing gear |
| 20:23.25 | |Jelly| | that's why |
| 20:23.27 | Shirik|Ecole | oh haha |
| 20:24.08 | art3mis | "hey wanna come to black morass?" "sorry I didn't prac heal" "oh okay thanks anyway" |
| 20:24.24 | ralfWORK | hahahaah |
| 20:24.26 | Shirik|Ecole | I healed heroic SH in pvp spec the other day |
| 20:24.28 | Shirik|Ecole | that was painful |
| 20:24.34 | ralfWORK | I healed BM as shadow |
| 20:24.35 | Shirik|Ecole | did it though |
| 20:24.39 | |Jelly| | i heal heroics all the time disc :P |
| 20:24.40 | ralfWORK | boy I wore out my flash heal that run |
| 20:24.43 | art3mis | I swear I have the above convo far to many times ;) |
| 20:24.43 | |Jelly| | L2Priest imo |
| 20:24.48 | Shirik|Ecole | |Jelly|, this was a pug -_- |
| 20:24.59 | |Jelly| | Your own fault for going. :P |
| 20:25.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I was bored |
| 20:25.11 | art3mis | sp+pally+war+lock+whatever == ez mode BM ;P |
| 20:25.29 | ralfWORK | if I knew more shadowpriests |
| 20:25.37 | art3mis | even a dps war will live as a tank with a lock+sp+pally ;P |
| 20:25.41 | ralfWORK | I'd say 1 pally + 4 sprists = ezmode winnar |
| 20:25.47 | art3mis | haha |
| 20:26.05 | ralfWORK | actually... hmm... |
| 20:26.18 | ralfWORK | CD on psychic scream is like 30s, it lasts what 8s? |
| 20:26.38 | Shirik|Ecole | without adjustments yes |
| 20:26.55 | ralfWORK | with 4 spriests, could just chain fear till the first boss :D |
| 20:27.26 | Shirik|Ecole | I think you just need 3 |
| 20:27.31 | Josh_Borke | um, why? |
| 20:27.34 | Shirik|Ecole | assuming no worst-case scenario |
| 20:27.51 | ralfWORK | 4*8 is 32s so... |
| 20:27.59 | ralfWORK | Josh_Borke: complete boredom |
| 20:28.22 | Shirik|Ecole | imp psychic scream |
| 20:28.24 | Shirik|Ecole | -4s |
| 20:28.31 | ralfWORK | oh yea if you do that |
| 20:28.48 | Shirik|Ecole | no you'd still be 2s off |
| 20:28.51 | Shirik|Ecole | but you're kinda ok |
| 20:29.00 | Shirik|Ecole | there has to be time for them to run back, etc. |
| 20:29.03 | ralfWORK | consecrate better pick em up! |
| 20:29.08 | ralfWORK | oh that's tru |
| 20:29.10 | ralfWORK | *true |
| 20:29.13 | ralfWORK | didn't think about that bit |
| 20:29.54 | ralfWORK | hmmm |
| 20:29.58 | ralfWORK | I guess if you did that |
| 20:30.19 | ralfWORK | naw it wouldn't work. oh well. |
| 20:30.48 | ralfWORK | was gonna say, you get through the 1st door, and start the event, the door should close I think, right? |
| 20:30.54 | ralfWORK | but you'd need a rogue :P |
| 20:31.10 | ralfWORK | and I suppose they would run up the sewer area anyways |
| 20:32.48 | ralfWORK | any of you have raiding prot pallies? |
| 20:33.50 | Shirik|Ecole | they usually run through the door |
| 20:34.02 | ralfWORK | Shirik|Ecole: ah didn't know that |
| 20:34.44 | ralfWORK | I'm curious about prot pally weapons... seems like caster weapons are preferred for them |
| 20:35.09 | ralfWORK | just didn't know if that means crap like suneater or king's defender are retarded for prot pallies |
| 20:38.11 | sancus | the only raiding prot pally I know uses the hyjal damage/hit mace |
| 20:38.41 | sancus | pvp caster weapons are probably excellent for them also since resilience isn't bad |
| 20:39.18 | MentalPower | Alright, I'm off to format this PC, wish me luck |
| 20:39.29 | ralfWORK | sancus: dmg/hit... spell dmg/spell hit right? |
| 20:39.37 | ralfWORK | MentalPower: good luck! |
| 20:40.56 | sancus | ralf: yes |
| 20:40.59 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 20:41.18 | ralfWORK | that's what I've seen with the very few prot pallies I've run with |
| 20:41.27 | sancus | the best weapon is either archimonde sword(you wont get this) or s3 arena mace |
| 20:41.42 | ralfWORK | except one we recruited that thinks KD is OMG AWEXOMMMM |
| 20:41.47 | ralfWORK | and he got it |
| 20:41.58 | ralfWORK | so I'm just wondering if he's right or wrong |
| 20:42.00 | ralfWORK | :) |
| 20:42.07 | sancus | lol |
| 20:42.09 | sancus | very wrong |
| 20:42.15 | sancus | prot pally threat comes from holy damage, not melee |
| 20:42.33 | ralfWORK | he's the only prot pally I know that is a fan |
| 20:42.44 | ralfWORK | sancus: yea, but it's got the defensive aspects |
| 20:42.53 | ralfWORK | I don't remember what the crap is on KD |
| 20:43.01 | ralfWORK | stam and hit maybe? idk |
| 20:43.01 | sancus | well |
| 20:43.05 | sancus | defense |
| 20:43.10 | ralfWORK | is it def? k |
| 20:43.14 | sancus | but |
| 20:43.34 | sancus | giving up your single biggest +dmg source for defense that you can get on any slot is a pretty bad choice yea |
| 20:43.50 | ralfWORK | I see |
| 20:43.52 | sancus | also, the resilience on s3 arena mace is probably just as good |
| 20:43.57 | Gnarfoz | !c EU Das Syndikat Llola |
| 20:44.00 | ThraeBot | Gnarfoz: Llola, Level 70 Gnome Rogue (16/41/4). 9834 HP; 3547 Armour; 1684 AP; 382.100 Melee DPS; 22.92% melee crit; 280 melee hit; 12 +spell dmg/heal; 21.71% dodge; 52 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 arcane);[[ TBR: 1521 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytgshg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2oqzmf ][ Updated: Wed Feb 6 15:52:52 2008 EST ]] |
| 20:44.01 | sancus | since the only reason you really want def is to become crit immune obviously |
| 20:44.04 | sancus | and resilience does that too |
| 20:44.22 | ralfWORK | sancus: yea... |
| 20:44.50 | ralfWORK | Gnarfoz: lol spell damage! |
| 20:45.05 | Gnarfoz | ralfWORK: ? |
| 20:45.20 | ralfWORK | Gnarfoz: your rogue has spell damage |
| 20:45.22 | sancus | 12 spell dmg/heal? |
| 20:45.26 | Gnarfoz | ralfWORK: it's not my rogue |
| 20:45.27 | Bela|work | def has other benefits besides being crit immune |
| 20:45.32 | Bela|work | that resiliance doesn't provide |
| 20:45.36 | ralfWORK | well, whatever you looked up |
| 20:45.51 | sancus | Bela: I know, but I was talking about in terms of relative usefulness |
| 20:46.02 | sancus | If there was a spell damage/defense weapon, im sure prot pallies would want that :P |
| 20:46.11 | ralfWORK | sancus: right, right |
| 20:46.22 | Gnarfoz | ralfWORK: so? some item that provides lots of useless stuff and also spelldmg, I guess |
| 20:46.39 | ralfWORK | Gnarfoz: uhm. ok. |
| 20:46.46 | ralfWORK | I'm hoping he got like IDS or something |
| 20:46.49 | sancus | defense isn't so great for prot pallies |
| 20:46.57 | Gnarfoz | IDS? oO |
| 20:47.00 | ralfWORK | lol@rogue with spelldamage |
| 20:47.12 | ralfWORK | Gnarfoz: improved divine spirit |
| 20:47.29 | ralfWORK | sancus: well... I don't see why defense would be any worse for them than a warrior |
| 20:47.30 | Gnarfoz | yea, he's got Prayer of Spirit |
| 20:47.41 | ralfWORK | Gnarfoz: ah ok thank god then :) |
| 20:47.49 | sancus | well |
| 20:47.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah, whatever. sheesh -.- |
| 20:48.04 | ralfWORK | lighten up man |
| 20:48.05 | sancus | the main reason that any tank stacks defense is for crit immunity, after you get crit immunity you do not gear for any additional defense |
| 20:48.06 | Bela|work | I think a lot of the reason they don't put spell dmg on most tank-like weapons is because it would only cater to one specific tank class |
| 20:48.15 | sancus | cause it's not an efficient way to get dodge/parry/etc |
| 20:48.18 | Bela|work | why do taht when you can cover multiple |
| 20:48.19 | ralfWORK | when you armory my priest and see block rating, you can laugh too! |
| 20:48.19 | sancus | compared to the actual ratings for those things |
| 20:48.46 | Bela|work | and put it instead on armor, where they already segregate by class |
| 20:48.57 | sancus | Bela: Oh, I'm sure |
| 20:48.57 | ralfWORK | sancus: ok, sure. I totally agree, defense is silly to stack post uncritable |
| 20:49.13 | Bela|work | define "stack" |
| 20:49.14 | ralfWORK | I thought you said it's not as good for pallies as it is for warriors though |
| 20:49.15 | sancus | but resilience ALSO gives you the uncrittability, and it does it at a much higher rate per point |
| 20:49.32 | sancus | it does not give you block, parry, or dodge |
| 20:49.38 | Bela|work | because don't forget that def rating also gives avoidance |
| 20:49.56 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: stack? uhm... having any def gems in your gear, |
| 20:50.00 | sancus | But in terms of gearing, if there was actual tank gear(there isn't, honestly) |
| 20:50.04 | Bela|work | oh yeah definitely |
| 20:50.05 | sancus | that had resilience |
| 20:50.13 | sancus | it would be better to have resilience and block/parry/dodge ratin |
| 20:50.13 | Bela|work | stam stam stam |
| 20:50.14 | sancus | than defense |
| 20:50.22 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: tell that to our tank |
| 20:50.23 | Bela|work | and only defense if you are under the cap on gear alone |
| 20:50.44 | ralfWORK | but yea, gem stam |
| 20:50.49 | Bela|work | its easy to hit 15k unbuffed as a warrior by Gruul |
| 20:50.56 | Bela|work | and still be uncrittable |
| 20:51.09 | ralfWORK | our tank could get another 1k HP if he gemmed stam instead of... whatever he's doing |
| 20:51.16 | ralfWORK | (kara tank) |
| 20:51.18 | Bela|work | whats his hp now? |
| 20:51.18 | sancus | always always gem stam yea |
| 20:51.32 | ralfWORK | eh. dunno. maybe 13k unbuffed? |
| 20:51.42 | Bela|work | so maybe 14k or so buffed |
| 20:51.45 | ralfWORK | he's at 15k in raids with fort, motw, and whatever consumables |
| 20:51.48 | Bela|work | he won't be able to do Gruul |
| 20:51.55 | Bela|work | not easily |
| 20:52.03 | ralfWORK | yea, well |
| 20:52.09 | ralfWORK | before I bring this raid to 25 man anything |
| 20:52.18 | ralfWORK | there's going to be a little come to jesus meeting |
| 20:52.27 | Bela|work | does he have the gun? |
| 20:52.28 | sancus | I seem to have the impression that it's harder for a prot pally to stay uncrittable and maintain other stats |
| 20:52.29 | ralfWORK | with everyone |
| 20:52.32 | sancus | but I don't know why |
| 20:52.33 | Bela|work | thats a big boost right there |
| 20:52.45 | Bela|work | is this a warrior or a pally |
| 20:52.47 | Bela|work | forgot to ask |
| 20:53.03 | Bela|work | I would agree sancus |
| 20:53.06 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: he's under the impression (I think) that he should go for +str gems now that he's post cap |
| 20:53.10 | ralfWORK | more threat! |
| 20:53.13 | Bela|work | wtf |
| 20:53.14 | sancus | lol.... |
| 20:53.16 | ralfWORK | this is a warrior |
| 20:53.23 | sancus | threat as a warrior |
| 20:53.25 | sancus | is expertise |
| 20:53.28 | Bela|work | yes |
| 20:53.29 | sancus | and minimizing avoidance |
| 20:53.30 | ralfWORK | sancus: I know this |
| 20:53.39 | ralfWORK | sancus: and shield block rating |
| 20:53.42 | ralfWORK | and expertise |
| 20:53.48 | ralfWORK | and hit |
| 20:53.50 | sancus | (you really can't avoid avoidance[lol], but you want shield block and expertise over avoidance if its possible in a gear slot) |
| 20:53.54 | Bela|work | sbr will help on shield slams, which will gain some threat |
| 20:53.55 | ralfWORK | and and and and and NOT ATTACK POWER |
| 20:54.14 | Bela|work | and avoidance will actually hurt you if you get too much |
| 20:54.15 | sancus | it could be worse though |
| 20:54.20 | Bela|work | I should know |
| 20:54.20 | ralfWORK | why does the priest (me) know this and the warrior does not? I dunno! |
| 20:54.23 | sancus | he could be one of those avoidance tanks that likes to gem for avoidance |
| 20:54.30 | sancus | then you'd want to kill yourself |
| 20:54.38 | Bela|work | I had to stop using the pocket watch from moroes because of too much dodge |
| 20:54.51 | sancus | the difference is quite striking |
| 20:54.53 | ralfWORK | sancus: knarly of eluse is the name |
| 20:54.57 | sancus | even at high level |
| 20:54.57 | ralfWORK | *elune |
| 20:55.06 | Bela|work | I instead went with an engy trinket with 50stam and the Darkmoon card with the holy dmg proc |
| 20:55.10 | Bela|work | that also has stam |
| 20:55.11 | sancus | if our MT tanks Teron in his full T6, he only generates about 1100 TPS *with* windfury |
| 20:55.19 | Bela|work | both of those, you can get at Kara level |
| 20:55.20 | ralfWORK | !c us elune knarly |
| 20:55.23 | Bela|work | easily |
| 20:55.23 | ThraeBot | ralfWORK: Knarly, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (10/5/46). 11904 HP; 15514 Armour; 1214 AP; 191.600 Melee DPS; 15.64% melee crit; 90 melee hit; 222 defense; 17.24% dodge; 19.72% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1315 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24pycv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3745j5 ][ Updated: Wed Feb 6 16:04:15 2008 EST ]] |
| 20:55.24 | sancus | in a T5 block value/expertise set, he generates 1350TPS |
| 20:55.31 | Esamynn|Work | Bela|work: as a Bear tank, I WANT THAT POCKETWATCH! |
| 20:55.38 | Bela|work | well you yeah |
| 20:55.41 | sancus | poor warriors |
| 20:55.43 | Bela|work | dodge is king |
| 20:55.44 | Esamynn|Work | gimmie! |
| 20:55.48 | Bela|work | hehe |
| 20:55.53 | sancus | as their gear gets better their threat gets worse |
| 20:55.55 | sancus | its so backwards |
| 20:55.56 | Esamynn|Work | it NEVEr dropped for me, only ever dropped when I wasn't there :( |
| 20:55.59 | ralfWORK | erm. 222 defense? |
| 20:56.00 | Bela|work | !c us medivh divale |
| 20:56.02 | ThraeBot | Bela|work: Divale, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/5/48). 15124 HP; 16140 Armour; 738 AP; 132.500 Melee DPS; 12.02% melee crit; 25 melee hit; 328 defense; 18.04% dodge; 25.07% block; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 1169 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c9ysn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37zpxm ][ Updated: Wed Feb 6 16:04:55 2008 EST ]] |
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| 20:56.53 | ralfWORK | yea, for us to do 25 man stuff, |
| 20:56.59 | ralfWORK | we gotta straighten crap like that out though |
| 20:57.06 | Bela|work | wtf |
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| 20:57.20 | ralfWORK | spec right; gem right; enchant right; use the right rotations |
| 20:57.33 | ralfWORK | for god's sake read up on something instead of playing all the time. study. |
| 20:58.02 | Bela|work | I used to yell at people in our raids who would say "I am not gonna enchant this because I will ahve a new item within a week" |
| 20:58.12 | kamdis | !c us uther franziska |
| 20:58.14 | ThraeBot | kamdis: Franziska, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/46/15). 17747 HP; 5373 Mana; 96 mana regen; 16181 Armour; 80.700 Melee DPS; 5.53% melee crit; 13 melee hit; 8 spell hit; 248 +spell dmg/heal; 314 defense; 21.55% dodge; 16.91% block; 45 arcane resist; +25 all resists (+5 all);[[ TBR: 804 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yufakv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ppxpu ][ Updated: Wed Feb 6 16:07:07 2008 EST ]] |
| 20:58.16 | Bela|work | I would always tell them -- not if I can help it! |
| 20:58.24 | kamdis | My guild's pally tank |
| 20:58.25 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: I should do that as well |
| 20:58.46 | Bela|work | I mean, its so easy to get money nowadays, if you can't enchant every new item, you fail |
| 20:58.46 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: I did go apeshit and told everyone they were not allowed to complain about repair bills anymore |
| 20:59.00 | Esamynn|Work | good |
| 20:59.00 | Bela|work | thats the other thing |
| 20:59.06 | Bela|work | lrn2daily |
| 20:59.17 | sancus | there's 3 people in my guild |
| 20:59.19 | ralfWORK | l2not log just for raid times |
| 20:59.20 | sancus | that have almost 20k gold |
| 20:59.21 | Esamynn|Work | I mean repair bill I could understand being a problem pre-BC |
| 20:59.25 | sancus | its kind of ... |
| 20:59.25 | Esamynn|Work | but definately not anymore |
| 20:59.29 | sancus | the guild bank only has 75k gold |
| 20:59.30 | ralfWORK | sancus: ouch |
| 20:59.40 | Lunessa | rotations are more important that people might believe. For example alternating between Flame Shock and Earth Shock on my shaman produces over all more DPS than just one or the other alone. |
| 20:59.43 | Bela|work | some people are enterprising like that though |
| 20:59.44 | ralfWORK | sancus: we have one person who's got 5-digit banks |
| 20:59.53 | sancus | the easiest way to make money en masse |
| 20:59.57 | sancus | is selling points in arena teams |
| 21:00.02 | sancus | if you're a good pvper ofc |
| 21:00.02 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:00.07 | sancus | if you're not, then no :p |
| 21:00.08 | ralfWORK | yea if you don't fail |
| 21:00.12 | Bela|work | I have a friend that does that |
| 21:00.17 | Bela|work | he is booked solid all the time |
| 21:00.18 | sancus | but if you are like a 2k rated arena player |
| 21:00.22 | sancus | you can make like 5k/week np |
| 21:00.28 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 21:00.29 | ralfWORK | Lunessa: yep, rotations are key |
| 21:00.30 | sancus | if you want to put time into it |
| 21:00.31 | Bela|work | he has 6 arena teams running |
| 21:00.37 | Bela|work | all selling slots |
| 21:00.49 | sancus | the only reason most of the pvpers in guild arent that rich is cause they're lazy |
| 21:00.52 | Bela|work | guaranteed s3 weapons and all |
| 21:01.03 | Esamynn|Work | jeez |
| 21:01.07 | ralfWORK | for casters, getting a casting bar mod is pretty huge too |
| 21:01.09 | sancus | but all 3 of the people with 20k+ are pvpers who sell arena points |
| 21:01.22 | ralfWORK | I gained several hundred DPS by simply installing Quartz |
| 21:01.38 | sancus | get a g15 :P |
| 21:01.39 | Esamynn|Work | Lunessa: what spec? |
| 21:01.50 | Lunessa | My shaman is Enhancement. |
| 21:01.51 | Bela|work | similar goes for healers, and gettng things like Healbot. Although I usually tell them to learn to heal without it before they start using it |
| 21:01.52 | ralfWORK | sancus: does it work on a mac? :) |
| 21:01.52 | sancus | ralf: er, you're caster dps? |
| 21:02.02 | sancus | ummm |
| 21:02.06 | sancus | that's a good question |
| 21:02.10 | Bela|work | because Healbot can easily teach bad habits if used by a noob |
| 21:02.11 | Lunessa | !char us kirin tor unkle |
| 21:02.13 | ralfWORK | sancus: yes. shadowpriest |
| 21:02.13 | ThraeBot | Lunessa: Unkle, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/47/14). 8169 HP; 7600 Mana; 117 mana regen; 19 mp5; 4552 Armour; 1092 AP; 182.000 Melee DPS; 20.68% melee crit; 147 melee hit; 3 spell crit; 327 +spell dmg/heal; 18.14% dodge; 5.00% block; 7 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1283 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys8ftt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ukk33 ][ Updated: Wed Feb 6 16:11:05 2008 EST ]] |
| 21:02.23 | sancus | no it does not :( |
| 21:02.27 | sancus | and oh, nm |
| 21:02.34 | mikma | Fin: 1g 20s 15c ? |
| 21:02.36 | sancus | g15 wont help a shadow priest at all until 2.4 |
| 21:02.46 | ralfWORK | sancus: oh? |
| 21:02.47 | Fin | mikma: hah :) |
| 21:02.49 | ralfWORK | *scratches head* |
| 21:02.53 | sancus | you can't send spellcast requests to the server |
| 21:02.55 | sancus | while you're in GCD |
| 21:03.00 | ralfWORK | what in 2.4 will make it better? |
| 21:03.03 | ralfWORK | ah |
| 21:03.06 | sancus | haste reduces the gcd |
| 21:03.09 | Esamynn|Work | Lunessa: so you ignore Stormstrike's bonus to nature damage then? |
| 21:03.15 | ralfWORK | right, haste change |
| 21:03.18 | Bela|work | to a minimum |
| 21:03.36 | sancus | I macro a g15 to send a spellcast request every 20ms |
| 21:03.41 | sancus | and just hold down that button |
| 21:03.44 | Lunessa | In any group containing hunter or boomkin they'll eat the charges before I will. |
| 21:03.47 | Bela|work | nice |
| 21:03.49 | sancus | it helps a little with latency |
| 21:03.49 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 21:04.05 | ralfWORK | sancus: *shrug* the latency indicator on Quartz works great |
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| 21:04.10 | Bela|work | so the whole "spamming one button" becomes "holding it down with a pebble" |
| 21:04.14 | Bela|work | 0.o |
| 21:04.17 | sancus | with my finger :p |
| 21:04.19 | kamdis | sancus that violated the ToU |
| 21:04.21 | ralfWORK | that's what helped me dump out more damage actually |
| 21:04.23 | kamdis | *violates |
| 21:04.30 | kamdis | key repeating is a no no |
| 21:04.35 | ralfWORK | warlocks violate the ToU |
| 21:04.38 | sancus | kamdis: dont really care |
| 21:04.43 | sancus | but yeah ralf |
| 21:04.46 | sancus | it's the same effect |
| 21:04.53 | ralfWORK | sancus: *nod* |
| 21:05.00 | sancus | you can just do it more precisely that way |
| 21:05.06 | ralfWORK | yea I gotcha |
| 21:05.07 | sancus | it's a very minor difference even for a mage |
| 21:05.16 | sancus | but hey, I use blessed wizard oil on teron |
| 21:05.18 | sancus | may as well go all out :P |
| 21:05.38 | ralfWORK | so long as you're doing something about your latency |
| 21:05.50 | ralfWORK | you're not a total failure, as a caster |
| 21:05.57 | sancus | (that's the +60 spell damage vs undead weapon oil from the pre-bc naxx event) |
| 21:06.16 | ralfWORK | sancus: oh... wow... |
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| 21:06.18 | ralfWORK | can I haz? |
| 21:06.20 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:06.39 | sancus | it's bop and you can't get it anymore :( :( |
| 21:06.42 | sancus | I have two stacks left |
| 21:06.52 | cladhaire | http://www.busdrivergame.com/ |
| 21:06.53 | ralfWORK | that sucks dude |
| 21:06.59 | sancus | yeah it does |
| 21:07.06 | ralfWORK | sancus: what do you play? |
| 21:07.08 | sancus | mage |
| 21:07.11 | ralfWORK | ahh |
| 21:07.13 | sancus | Bela: and actually, if you don't have a g15 |
| 21:07.25 | sancus | Bela: The best method, ironically is to bind your main dps spell to the mousewheel :P |
| 21:08.03 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:08.06 | sancus | none of this works for shadow priests because cooldown limits and fitting things together is important |
| 21:08.13 | Bela|work | I have that logitech revolution mouse, so scroll wheel would achieve the same affect |
| 21:08.16 | ralfWORK | sancus: right |
| 21:08.25 | Bela|work | since the scroll wheel is a continuous scroll |
| 21:08.26 | sancus | but for a mage its just getting fireballs out as fast as possible |
| 21:08.27 | ralfWORK | sancus: dot uptime and all that crap |
| 21:08.34 | Bela|work | but I already have a g15 |
| 21:08.35 | sancus | Bela: Ah, yeah, it might be just as good then |
| 21:08.37 | Bela|work | I just don't use it that way |
| 21:08.59 | sancus | it's the reason I bought it, cause manly on EJ was raving about it, and turns out tests show it does help by like 0.5% |
| 21:09.11 | Bela|work | in fact I should really switch to the v2 of the G15, I don't use all the macro buttons like I used to |
| 21:09.18 | sancus | I have a v2 |
| 21:09.18 | cncfanatics | 0.5% is 0.5% :p |
| 21:09.20 | sancus | my only real complaint |
| 21:09.23 | ralfWORK | wish our raid cared about 0.5% :) |
| 21:09.41 | sancus | is that it's hard to reach the buttons and use wasd etc at the same time |
| 21:09.49 | sancus | so I have a stupid work-around |
| 21:09.52 | Bela|work | I don't use wasd anyway |
| 21:09.56 | Bela|work | I use arrows |
| 21:10.01 | sancus | I use a toggle for the spam |
| 21:10.12 | sancus | so slap the button and it spams "l,l,l,l,l,l,l" |
| 21:10.23 | sancus | and then I have /cast [mod:shift] Fireball |
| 21:10.25 | sancus | bound to l :P |
| 21:10.46 | sancus | (yes, this makes it impossible to talk in party chat during an encounter, but c'est la vie) |
| 21:13.02 | sancus | ralfWORK: Btw, getting people to care about the last 0.5% is hard even at T6 levels :P |
| 21:13.40 | kamdis | sancus can you wave your epeen about being in T6 more please? |
| 21:14.02 | Bela|work | I am glad I am not in T6 actually |
| 21:14.09 | sancus | huh? I'm just saying, even at a level you'd expect everyone to actually always work at it |
| 21:14.14 | sancus | it's not the case |
| 21:14.33 | kamdis | you've mentioned it about eleventy billion times thusfar |
| 21:14.46 | kamdis | jsut so we are all sure to know how godly you are and how lowly we are |
| 21:14.46 | sancus | because it's important context? |
| 21:14.51 | Bela|work | my guild will get to T6 before WOTLK, but I would rather get there shortly before it comes out, not long before and then have months of farming |
| 21:14.52 | sancus | No, that's not why |
| 21:14.57 | kamdis | uh huh |
| 21:15.11 | cncfanatics | Bela|work: my guild does less then pugs atm :s |
| 21:15.12 | sancus | it's because "the right thing" is different at different raid levels |
| 21:15.15 | Cairenn | take it back to the original conversation please guys |
| 21:15.41 | Bela|work | I like pie |
| 21:15.42 | sancus | if I say a shadow priest should never run out of mana, I'd be an idiot if that spriest is in kara |
| 21:15.44 | Bela|work | lets talk about that |
| 21:15.53 | kamdis | The original conversation where he's talking about using key repeating which violates the rule, Cairenn? |
| 21:16.01 | ralfWORK | sancus: interesting |
| 21:16.08 | kamdis | I'm sorry, I'm just really annoyed. |
| 21:16.18 | Cairenn | I got that kamdis |
| 21:18.38 | sancus | ralfWORK: I'm sure you know, but, since VT scales up the more +dmg you have, but your spells always cost the same, you basically get more and more mana efficient the better gear you get |
| 21:19.07 | ralfWORK | sancus: I'm quite aware of that, yes |
| 21:19.26 | ralfWORK | I have heard a magic number of 1200 spell damage |
| 21:19.33 | sancus | well |
| 21:19.42 | Esamynn|Work | magic number? |
| 21:19.56 | sancus | There's not really a magic number, but it tends to get noticeably easier around 1200-1300, yes |
| 21:19.58 | ralfWORK | obviously, not being there, I don't know how magic it is :D |
| 21:20.14 | sancus | the T5 set bonus helps a lot too |
| 21:20.19 | Esamynn|Work | sorry, what gets easier? |
| 21:20.21 | ralfWORK | it'll be a while for that |
| 21:20.25 | ralfWORK | Esamynn|Work: spriest mana |
| 21:20.29 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 21:20.30 | sancus | Esamynn: shadow priest endurance |
| 21:20.38 | ralfWORK | perfect example, |
| 21:20.44 | ralfWORK | for Nalorakk this week |
| 21:20.51 | sancus | at max gear level, chain potting, you can sustain 20 minutes of dps |
| 21:21.08 | ralfWORK | basically I sustain VT, SW:P and flay flay flay |
| 21:21.08 | Esamynn|Work | jeez |
| 21:21.20 | ralfWORK | *and* chain pot |
| 21:21.31 | sancus | how long is nalorakk for you |
| 21:21.36 | ralfWORK | (that's the longest fight we've done so far) |
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| 21:21.44 | ralfWORK | I need to check that out, let me get WWS |
| 21:21.45 | Bela|work | hehe |
| 21:22.12 | ralfWORK | I'll also add a huge qualifier |
| 21:22.16 | sancus | have you killed hex lord/zuljin? |
| 21:22.20 | ralfWORK | naw |
| 21:22.24 | sancus | ok, heh |
| 21:22.28 | sancus | zul'jin is really long |
| 21:22.28 | ralfWORK | was our first night in ZA as a guild |
| 21:22.40 | sancus | but you get quite a bit of downtime in it too |
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| 21:22.52 | Bela|work | those two feel too difficult for the level of gear they are supposed to support imho |
| 21:23.08 | Bela|work | mainly hexx |
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| 21:23.20 | ralfWORK | sancus: I have not manned up and made my shadow weave gear yet, so there is that qualifier |
| 21:23.36 | sancus | oh |
| 21:23.38 | ralfWORK | I'm full PMC, so I'm collecting mats and will switch when they are all farmed |
| 21:23.40 | sancus | you should definitely man that up :P |
| 21:23.52 | sancus | ah you switched from healing, heh |
| 21:23.57 | ralfWORK | I have put it off because I was changing specs every week |
| 21:24.20 | ralfWORK | !c us elune nightface |
| 21:24.22 | ThraeBot | ralfWORK: Nightface, Level 70 Human Priest (14/0/47). 7421 HP; 8280 Mana; 167 mana regen; 54 mp5; 110 spell crit; 90 spell hit; 883 +spell dmg/heal; 102 shadow dmg (985); 5.14% dodge; 34 resilience;[[ TBR: 1059 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt5p87 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35kafm ][ Updated: Wed Feb 6 14:44:10 2008 EST ]] |
| 21:24.25 | ralfWORK | that's me |
| 21:24.43 | ralfWORK | damage is low because I have the Blessings deck |
| 21:24.56 | ralfWORK | other than that, that's an accurate picture |
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| 21:26.07 | ralfWORK | looks like nalorakk was 5'48" |
| 21:26.09 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 21:26.13 | ralfWORK | seemed longer lol |
| 21:26.53 | ralfWORK | probably because it's a boring ass tank and spank fight |
| 21:27.07 | Bela|work | I've seen worse |
| 21:27.20 | ralfWORK | I've done it near 10 minutes before |
| 21:27.34 | Bela|work | you get the timer? |
| 21:27.39 | ralfWORK | I'm actually impressed; 5'48" isn't bad for a first kill |
| 21:27.43 | ralfWORK | no :( |
| 21:27.49 | ralfWORK | I think we could do it though |
| 21:27.58 | Bela|work | first couple timers are fairly easy |
| 21:28.02 | ralfWORK | perhaps next week |
| 21:28.20 | ralfWORK | eh. we gotta get people to stop QQing about eagle boss trash first |
| 21:28.35 | Bela|work | lol |
| 21:28.35 | ralfWORK | "omg impossible without a warlock and a holy pally!" |
| 21:28.37 | Bela|work | just wait |
| 21:28.44 | ralfWORK | er sorry |
| 21:28.45 | ralfWORK | *prot pally |
| 21:29.32 | Bela|work | you done Dragonhawk yet? |
| 21:29.46 | ralfWORK | as a guild, nalorakk is the only one |
| 21:29.54 | ralfWORK | I have fought that eagle boss before |
| 21:29.59 | ralfWORK | with the gauntlet |
| 21:30.05 | ralfWORK | (I think that's eagle) |
| 21:30.06 | Bela|work | wait till you do him |
| 21:30.12 | Bela|work | that shield always causes bitching |
| 21:30.34 | ralfWORK | I'm tempted to have a come to jesus before 25 mans |
| 21:30.38 | ralfWORK | and do it for ZA |
| 21:30.52 | ralfWORK | let's just say... they abuse the "casual" in "casual raiding guild" |
| 21:32.13 | Bela|work | that always happens to "casual guilds" who are walking the line to "raiding guild" |
| 21:32.23 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 21:32.37 | ralfWORK | I hear the stories from every guild in our place |
| 21:32.40 | Bela|work | in my experience you just have to decide which way its gonna be |
| 21:33.00 | Bela|work | because casual only lasts so long |
| 21:33.07 | ralfWORK | someone in here suggested be casual in the sense that we don't raid 7 nights a week |
| 21:33.13 | Bela|work | yeah |
| 21:33.16 | ralfWORK | (we raid 3) |
| 21:33.17 | Bela|work | we only do 3 |
| 21:33.25 | Bela|work | and we do it well |
| 21:33.26 | ralfWORK | and I am going to push that down people's throats for 25 mans |
| 21:33.41 | ralfWORK | schedule is casual |
| 21:33.48 | ralfWORK | everything else is srs bzns |
| 21:33.52 | Bela|work | hehe |
| 21:34.07 | ralfWORK | I don't have the numbers to bench people |
| 21:34.09 | ralfWORK | and they know it |
| 21:34.42 | ralfWORK | so raids don't start on time |
| 21:35.05 | Bela|work | so don't raid |
| 21:35.13 | Bela|work | as much as that hurts, people will notice |
| 21:35.23 | ralfWORK | thought about it |
| 21:35.51 | ralfWORK | don't like punishing the people who *did* show up |
| 21:35.56 | Bela|work | yeah |
| 21:36.10 | Bela|work | thats why you make it clear that it isn't their fault, nor yours |
| 21:36.11 | ralfWORK | and if I *do* have the numbers, I bench them |
| 21:36.15 | Bela|work | its the people who didn't show |
| 21:36.24 | Bela|work | let them mob those people |
| 21:36.48 | ralfWORK | don't usually have the numbers to sub though |
| 21:37.34 | ralfWORK | yea, I'm with ya |
| 21:37.56 | ralfWORK | also thought about going further |
| 21:38.10 | ralfWORK | and just saying I'm recruiting for your spot if you don't show |
| 21:38.10 | Bela|work | boot / recruit? |
| 21:38.21 | ralfWORK | no boot, just recruit |
| 21:38.24 | Bela|work | well |
| 21:38.27 | Bela|work | not that order |
| 21:38.34 | Bela|work | we do that now |
| 21:38.39 | Bela|work | even though we have the people |
| 21:38.46 | ralfWORK | how do you mean? |
| 21:38.46 | Bela|work | if someone becomes unreliable, we recruit for their spot |
| 21:39.02 | Bela|work | that way we don't start having days that we can't get the people |
| 21:39.12 | Bela|work | if you wait too long, it becomes impossible |
| 21:39.19 | Bela|work | and at our level, we can't just recruit anyone |
| 21:39.25 | Bela|work | they have to be pretty good quality |
| 21:39.29 | ralfWORK | well sure |
| 21:39.30 | Bela|work | and that takes time |
| 21:39.34 | ralfWORK | our level... it's kinda dime a dozen |
| 21:39.49 | Bela|work | I had a resto shaman apply the other day |
| 21:39.55 | ralfWORK | (not exactly, but close enough) |
| 21:40.01 | Bela|work | who didn't understand why he should have earth shield |
| 21:40.08 | Bela|work | since he didn't bother speccing for it |
| 21:40.13 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 21:40.21 | Bela|work | neddless to say, we didn't take him |
| 21:40.26 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 21:40.49 | Bela|work | hell, I have seen my earth shield put a tank close to the same healing as our healers |
| 21:40.55 | Bela|work | on the meters |
| 21:40.58 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:41.08 | ralfWORK | don't discount ProM ;) |
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| 21:41.32 | ralfWORK | that's pretty amazing though. and what level of content? |
| 21:41.35 | Bela|work | my +heal s nasty though |
| 21:41.43 | ralfWORK | t5? |
| 21:41.46 | Bela|work | I crit for 7k on healing waves |
| 21:41.47 | Bela|work | yeah |
| 21:41.51 | ralfWORK | ya |
| 21:41.59 | Bela|work | my chain heal does 6k crits |
| 21:42.02 | Bela|work | sometimes |
| 21:42.06 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 21:42.30 | cladhaire | fucking shaman :P |
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| 21:42.38 | Bela|work | I made a fraps video because we wanted to start recording our boss fights |
| 21:42.49 | Bela|work | and had to stop because all the pallies got mad at me |
| 21:42.54 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 21:42.57 | ralfWORK | fuck pallies |
| 21:42.58 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 21:43.21 | ralfWORK | snipe healing bastards |
| 21:43.39 | Bela|work | and druids say I kill their lifeblooms |
| 21:43.44 | Bela|work | but meh |
| 21:43.53 | Bela|work | my chain heal isn't smart enough to know |
| 21:44.01 | ralfWORK | wonder if it should be |
| 21:44.07 | nevcairiel | no chain heal can beat the 1s lifebloom ticks |
| 21:45.40 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: how did you guys break past 10 man raids? |
| 21:45.51 | Bela|work | recruiting |
| 21:45.54 | Bela|work | we were lucky though |
| 21:46.10 | Bela|work | had an influx of server transfers that joiend |
| 21:46.17 | ralfWORK | were you a tight knit guild? did the recruiting impact culture? |
| 21:46.18 | Bela|work | people that weren't idiots |
| 21:46.54 | Bela|work | we were a guild who had enough of the peolpe who WANTED to progress that we said fuck you to the people who didn't |
| 21:47.04 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: gotcha |
| 21:47.11 | Bela|work | thats putting it bad, but you know what I mean |
| 21:47.18 | Bela|work | we didn't kick anyone |
| 21:47.19 | ralfWORK | yes, I do. |
| 21:47.21 | Bela|work | we have a friends rank |
| 21:47.25 | Bela|work | they just dont raid |
| 21:47.31 | Bela|work | and people get demoted to it if they stop |
| 21:47.31 | ralfWORK | I'm the guild leader, and these are the things I'm worried about |
| 21:48.01 | ralfWORK | ya, we have raider ranks |
| 21:48.03 | ralfWORK | and then members |
| 21:48.04 | Bela|work | friends rank gains no ep |
| 21:48.10 | ralfWORK | you don't have to raid |
| 21:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: ping, quick suggestion for BuyDropper: put priority on existing stacks of items, even if they could go into another bag. The reagents for the druid battle res can go in the herb bag, but I keep my stack of them *not* in my herb bag. |
| 21:48.36 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: and I know you hate your addons now, but, should you ever get time :) |
| 21:49.02 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: all it does is puchase the stuff. it doesn't do any stacking or anything |
| 21:49.12 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: oh. So I need to be hating on the stock UI then. |
| 21:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Well. That explains a bit. |
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| 21:51.46 | ralfWORK | stock UI stacking sucks balls |
| 21:52.59 | sancus | ralfWORK: lol, people really say the trash is impossible without a prot pally?? |
| 21:53.25 | sancus | and a warlock.. |
| 21:53.31 | ralfWORK | sancus: yes |
| 21:53.35 | sancus | why a warlock? |
| 21:53.39 | ralfWORK | we have a few interesting people |
| 21:53.46 | ralfWORK | a few have mains in a T5 guild |
| 21:53.57 | ralfWORK | who think if their "main" guild can't do it, we can't do it |
| 21:54.05 | sancus | I'd say that the most important thing about eagle boss trash is people who *assist* |
| 21:54.26 | sancus | and tanks that are conscious about picking up loose mobs |
| 21:54.31 | ralfWORK | then we have a click-tank |
| 21:54.38 | ralfWORK | and a hunter who can't trap |
| 21:54.40 | ralfWORK | hmmm.... |
| 21:54.44 | sancus | in terms of the aoe mobs |
| 21:54.49 | sancus | they're really very easy, dont have much hp |
| 21:54.54 | ralfWORK | and a DPS warrior who spends alot of time staring at the wall |
| 21:55.04 | sancus | blast wave + dragon's breath + a few arcane explosions kills 'em no problem, and it doesnt really matter if they're on you as long as you get heals |
| 21:55.06 | sancus | they dont hit very hard |
| 21:55.18 | sancus | what kills you is if your aoe damage pulls one of the real elites |
| 21:55.55 | sancus | do you have a bear at least or are you stuck doing that with a warrior? |
| 21:56.19 | ralfWORK | relavent classes... we had a prot tank and a bear druid |
| 21:56.24 | sancus | oh |
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| 21:56.25 | ralfWORK | hunter in rear with the bear to trap elites |
| 21:56.27 | sancus | well bear is np |
| 21:56.35 | sancus | stay together |
| 21:56.41 | ralfWORK | and for AOE we had 1 mage |
| 21:56.44 | ralfWORK | 2 healers |
| 21:56.57 | sancus | basically the bear should have 3 elites on him, warrior should have 1 |
| 21:57.38 | sancus | bear threat on 3 mobs is good, make sure the mage doesnt die when the eagles come, and keep moving and after a couple tries you should get it |
| 21:58.25 | ralfWORK | sancus: hmm. so the event starts... |
| 21:58.58 | ralfWORK | 2 elites, bear grabs one |
| 21:59.03 | ralfWORK | warr grabs 2nd |
| 21:59.08 | sancus | the event starts, the protector and caster dude come |
| 21:59.15 | sancus | warr goes on caster, bear grabs protector |
| 21:59.19 | sancus | you kill the caster asap |
| 21:59.20 | ralfWORK | then what, moves to the rear and gets ready to beat up the guys from rear? |
| 21:59.24 | sancus | eventually two warriors come from behind |
| 21:59.38 | sancus | bear picks 'em up with a single swipe or whatever the 3-target bear attack is |
| 21:59.47 | ralfWORK | ya, swipe iirc |
| 21:59.58 | ralfWORK | assign a DPS to the rear I assume? |
| 22:00.05 | sancus | well there isn't really a rear, I mean |
| 22:00.09 | sancus | there's no reason to split up your raid that much |
| 22:00.35 | sancus | just let the warriors come to you, if the bear just moves back like 5 or 10 yards, and grabs the warriors and pulls them back into the main raid stack |
| 22:00.36 | sancus | you're fine |
| 22:00.47 | sancus | they don't do massive cleaves or anything like that, so they don't need to be separate from the raid |
| 22:00.49 | ralfWORK | ok, I see |
| 22:01.03 | sancus | when the eagles come |
| 22:01.05 | sancus | everything is in the aoe |
| 22:01.07 | ralfWORK | so just have the druid in the rear of the raid |
| 22:01.13 | ralfWORK | but not near the bottom of the hill or anything |
| 22:01.16 | sancus | right |
| 22:01.20 | sancus | the thing is you need to keep moving quickly |
| 22:01.23 | sancus | while you are fighting |
| 22:01.27 | ralfWORK | ya, I know that bit |
| 22:01.27 | sancus | you can't kill stuff, stop, move, then kill stuff |
| 22:01.35 | sancus | so if you just all stay together it works best |
| 22:01.38 | ralfWORK | sure |
| 22:02.00 | ralfWORK | do you honestly think 1 AOE is enough to do it, considering T4 gear? |
| 22:02.04 | sancus | well |
| 22:02.07 | sancus | do you have dps warriors? |
| 22:02.07 | ralfWORK | well, not even T4. Kara + Badge |
| 22:02.11 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 22:02.13 | sancus | cause whirlwind is aoe too |
| 22:02.15 | sancus | and it works very well |
| 22:02.16 | ralfWORK | I have a bad DPS warrior |
| 22:02.22 | kamdis | did you ever do the suppression room in BWL or the tunnel between Sartura and Fankriss in AQ40? |
| 22:02.23 | ralfWORK | well yes |
| 22:02.26 | kamdis | It's like that. |
| 22:02.27 | ralfWORK | nope! |
| 22:02.29 | ralfWORK | I heard about them! |
| 22:02.31 | kamdis | Ah |
| 22:02.31 | ralfWORK | never did it! |
| 22:02.38 | kamdis | ok, nevermind. ;-) |
| 22:02.40 | sancus | idk then |
| 22:02.40 | ralfWORK | I've done shattered halls |
| 22:02.43 | ralfWORK | but not heroic :D |
| 22:02.46 | sancus | 1 aoe and one bad dps warrior in t4 gear |
| 22:02.54 | sancus | is probably cutting it close |
| 22:02.56 | sancus | do you have a paladin? |
| 22:03.03 | ralfWORK | nope |
| 22:03.04 | ralfWORK | well |
| 22:03.06 | sancus | oh :/ |
| 22:03.07 | ralfWORK | sometimes |
| 22:03.16 | ralfWORK | I'm also thinking 3 healers instead of 2 |
| 22:03.19 | sancus | If you have a holy paladin |
| 22:03.25 | sancus | he can just consecrate when the eagles come |
| 22:03.29 | sancus | and that helps too |
| 22:03.29 | kamdis | well, SH gauntlet, same idea, except you have to "stick and move" as a group more. |
| 22:03.36 | ralfWORK | kamdis: right, right |
| 22:03.39 | sancus | yes you should absolutely have 3 healers in T4 |
| 22:03.58 | sancus | I would never recommend 2 healers for ZA unless you know what you're doing and are doing the bear timer |
| 22:04.01 | kamdis | 2 in T4 + 1 less geared works too |
| 22:04.23 | kamdis | actually, we did it with 3 priests, none in more than 2 pcs of T4 and no other healers. |
| 22:04.35 | ralfWORK | priests have zero excuse to be undergeared |
| 22:04.49 | sancus | I meant, if you're at T4 you should have 3 healers heh |
| 22:05.04 | ralfWORK | sancus: ya, that makes sense |
| 22:05.05 | sancus | it depends how many retards you have too because you can easily take massive damage on dragonhawk if people are dumb |
| 22:05.15 | sancus | and then even 3 healers might not be enough |
| 22:05.56 | ralfWORK | well, I don't really want bear boss to take 15 minutes either :) |
| 22:06.02 | sancus | well yea |
| 22:06.06 | ralfWORK | I pushed hard for us to do Kara with 2 healers |
| 22:06.08 | ralfWORK | and it's worked |
| 22:06.14 | ralfWORK | don't think I can do the same in ZA |
| 22:06.14 | sancus | if you are dying with 3 healers then you need to fix the bad :P |
| 22:06.30 | [Liquidor] | Hmm someone open up http://armory.artoman.com .. gotta check that my page analyzer is working. |
| 22:06.52 | ralfWORK | although I'm contemplating 3 healers for Nightbane :P |
| 22:09.39 | sancus | I'd say ZA is very tank centric |
| 22:09.56 | sancus | if you have good tanks it's cake, if you have bad tanks.... they can't squeeze through like they can in KZ |
| 22:10.59 | kamdis | Lynx is pretty healer taxing. |
| 22:10.59 | sancus | warriors who are good at dealing with multiple mobs are few and far between because it takes a lot of skill and judgement, but it's easy for bears and even easier for prot pallies |
| 22:10.59 | sancus | which is why people like them |
| 22:11.17 | kamdis | imo |
| 22:11.21 | sancus | it is |
| 22:11.47 | kamdis | but not too hard otherwise. |
| 22:11.49 | |Jelly| | Malacrass minus CoH! |
| 22:11.56 | sancus | chain heal > malacrass |
| 22:12.15 | |Jelly| | get it off during spirit bolts |
| 22:12.19 | sancus | was just saying about the instance in general, the tanking precision required is very much higher than karazhan |
| 22:12.24 | kamdis | Heh, but you'd need a Resto Shaman for that. Of which my guild has 1, who's an alt. |
| 22:12.31 | sancus | that is a very sad thing |
| 22:12.36 | kamdis | sancus, I agree. |
| 22:12.50 | sancus | shaman are the single most powerful support class in the game |
| 22:13.17 | kamdis | All of ours got sick of healing about halfway through Naxx and rerolled at BC. |
| 22:13.30 | kamdis | Or respecced Ele |
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| 22:13.56 | Duman | bleh |
| 22:14.00 | sancus | ele is good too |
| 22:14.06 | sancus | enhancement is excellent |
| 22:14.11 | sancus | you pretty much can't go wrong with shaman :P |
| 22:14.18 | sancus | we raid with 5 in a 25-man as often as possible |
| 22:14.20 | |Jelly| | enhancement is lol pre what? t5? |
| 22:14.36 | kamdis | I'm sure if we were an Alliance guild we'd have an easier time finding Shaman of any type. |
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| 22:14.50 | sancus | I have no clue about shaman dps below t5 |
| 22:15.09 | |Jelly| | Yeah all the horde shammies said 'fuck off' a long time ago, much like most priests. |
| 22:15.12 | sancus | I know enh shaman are amazing at t5 and t6, below that.. idk |
| 22:15.16 | sancus | We're horde |
| 22:15.20 | |Jelly| | So like I said. |
| 22:15.26 | sancus | good resto shaman are extremely hard to find for everyone |
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| 22:16.23 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: My non-t4 Enhancement shaman is FTW |
| 22:16.44 | |Jelly| | Go raid imo. |
| 22:17.49 | |Jelly| | Don't get me wrong, I'm all for speccing how you like. Notice Jelly is disc. But in a raid environment, I've not seen but one enhancement shaman be able to keep up. |
| 22:18.06 | Lunessa | We don't have enough healers for me to not raid as a priest. which is FTL |
| 22:18.30 | |Jelly| | Yeah. My guild is pissed at me because I refused to take Jelly to Kara last night. |
| 22:19.25 | |Jelly| | I told them to tell the prot paladin who respecs and regears every week to go holy that I was taking my hunter. |
| 22:19.27 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
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| 22:22.21 | Lunessa | <--- Raid Leader. I can't ask, in good conscience, guildees to make a sacrifice I /won't/. |
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| 22:25.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not disc during raids obviously |
| 22:25.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm an idiot like |Jelly| now that decides to pay 100g a week for some reason |
| 22:25.37 | Shirik|Ecole | and it's his fault I do that now |
| 22:26.18 | Lunessa | Meh, I don't bother. I just play someone else. |
| 22:26.35 | |Jelly| | I go disc for raids. They just wont let me do timed runs of ZA as disc anymore. :-\ |
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| 22:27.01 | |Jelly| | The dest locks love PI :P |
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| 22:30.27 | kd3 | whee, so apparently the cableco lost their uplink |
| 22:30.46 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/353465/dog-barks-deciphered-yes-dogs-are-as-simple-and-dumb-as-you-thought |
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| 22:36.31 | |Jelly| | How to know a group will [more than likely] fail: [1] <Antipaladin>: lf2m for heroic sv, 1 tank, 1 dps. |
| 22:40.44 | Lunessa | Mostly fail to form. |
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| 22:42.51 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, it's worse when it's looking fore 1 tank 1 healer |
| 22:43.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Any TSVN users: If a repository's location changes, is there an easy way to update it on your computer? |
| 22:43.45 | ralfWORK | Shirik|Ecole: tsvn? tortoise? |
| 22:43.45 | Lopeppeppy | Fail to form, or spend too much time min/maxing their spots. |
| 22:43.47 | ralfWORK | dunno |
| 22:43.50 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 22:43.55 | ralfWORK | in real SVN, yes |
| 22:44.15 | ralfWORK | svn switch --relocate http://svn.foo.com/repos http://svn.bar.com/repos |
| 22:44.20 | ralfWORK | or something similar |
| 22:46.31 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: here? |
| 22:46.37 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 22:46.51 | ralfWORK | can you paste me your UI links again? |
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| 22:47.18 | |Jelly| | like. the screenshots of them? |
| 22:47.22 | ralfWORK | ya, that |
| 22:47.40 | |Jelly| | http://i27.tinypic.com/202uh.jpg |
| 22:48.04 | ralfWORK | ty |
| 22:50.02 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf does "obstructed" mean when updating o.o |
| 22:57.27 | Kaso | Do any US guys know the latest stats on primaries, the uk news gives very little info |
| 22:57.55 | ralfWORK | jelly: did you you have to do custom colors on the unit frame text, or was it just a matter of some setting? |
| 22:58.08 | |Jelly| | which? |
| 22:58.11 | Lunessa | Kaso, yes, but I won't talk about US politics here. PM me. |
| 22:58.24 | ralfWORK | |Jelly|: party member names |
| 22:58.35 | |Jelly| | that's class colors |
| 22:58.41 | dylanm | Kaso: http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/index.html |
| 22:58.44 | ralfWORK | right, k |
| 22:58.53 | kd3 | kaso, most of the news websites should have it fairly prominently |
| 23:00.19 | ralfWORK | stupid question... |
| 23:00.26 | ralfWORK | oh nm |
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| 23:13.10 | |Jelly| | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001100 hmm |
| 23:13.39 | Lopeppeppy | I have a 19" acer, but it's square not widescreen. |
| 23:13.40 | Thunder_Child | Kaso, http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/ |
| 23:13.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'm just... fractious! |
| 23:13.50 | |Jelly| | my next monitor will be WS |
| 23:14.11 | Thunder_Child | i want a 3rd 22" |
| 23:14.21 | Thunder_Child | i think i deserve it |
| 23:14.23 | Lunessa | I have a 19" widescreen. I want a 24" |
| 23:14.37 | kd3 | I'm probably going from a 17" non-WS to dual 21" WS soon |
| 23:14.46 | kd3 | backlight's finally about to die in this one |
| 23:14.50 | kamdis | I have a 22" widescreen and love it. But 24" would be great. |
| 23:15.27 | Lopeppeppy | I'm looking for 22" widescreen. I covet that of The Male. |
| 23:17.06 | Thunder_Child | 22" wide is goos dtuff |
| 23:17.10 | Thunder_Child | good* |
| 23:17.29 | kamdis | oh I'm wrong, mine's 23" |
| 23:17.33 | kamdis | nur |
| 23:19.11 | Lunessa | I covet more monitors, and larger ones. |
| 23:20.35 | Thunder_Child | hah, we have a BFL winner http://gizmodo.com/353422/i-see-london-i-see-france-i-see-your-underpants-from-32-miles-away-with-canon-5200mm-ultra-telephoto-lens |
| 23:22.17 | kamdis | "That's like from one end of Rosie O' Donnell's ass to the other." rofl |
| 23:22.26 | Lopeppeppy | I just covet computer-toys! I'm bored and the shopping virus has hit. |
| 23:24.06 | kd3 | tc; geez |
| 23:24.30 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 23:24.59 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Me too! Maybe I should go to Frys at lunch time. |
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| 23:26.34 | kamdis | Thunder_Child: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLetter/Mother-of-All-L-Lenses.jsp |
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| 23:26.58 | kamdis | at* dammit |
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| 23:27.29 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:27.38 | WobWork | mmochampion 'patch' notes? |
| 23:28.29 | Thunder_Child | kamdis, ya, thats what we started with |
| 23:30.17 | kamdis | ah, sorry |
| 23:30.39 | Thunder_Child | np kamdis, it was a few days ago |
| 23:30.42 | Thunder_Child | this is kinda ongoing |
| 23:31.30 | Lopeppeppy | If you go computer shopping on your lunch, I'll put rat poison in your drink, Lunessa! :P |
| 23:31.42 | kamdis | OMG, were you just ... nice to me, T_C? |
| 23:31.47 | kamdis | :P |
| 23:32.02 | Thunder_Child | i'm always nice to people |
| 23:32.08 | kamdis | bahahahaha |
| 23:32.11 | Lunessa | But Lopeppeppy I thought you <3 me? |
| 23:32.40 | |pez| | hah, Webmin has Klingon as a supported language... |
| 23:34.15 | Lopeppeppy | I can love you better when you're sick and I can nurse you back to health, Lunessa! |
| 23:35.13 | Lopeppeppy | I have to get some new hobbies, you know. |
| 23:36.05 | |pez| | Anyone of you folks have any experience with Webmin? |
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| 23:38.43 | Lunessa | negative. |
| 23:39.17 | JoshBorke | if by experience you mean: i looked at it once 5 years ago and said huh, this is nifty, and haven't touched it since, then YEA! |
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| 23:39.39 | TecnoBrat | I've used it ... |
| 23:39.47 | TecnoBrat | and then decided it was easier to do it manually |
| 23:40.36 | |pez| | TecnoBrat: hehe, I can't do things manually to begin with... :P |
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