| 00:00.17 | Shirik | It was actually a /4 |
| 00:00.28 | Cide | clearly |
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| 00:00.34 | Shirik | no alestane, it would be 1/2(integral(x/2dx) |
| 00:00.42 | alestane | Maybe it was of 2x then. |
| 00:00.54 | Shirik | I mean |
| 00:00.55 | Shirik | DAMN IT |
| 00:00.57 | Shirik | - |
| 00:00.58 | Shirik | 203w[*T{QA@WG |
| 00:01.02 | alestane | It integrated to x^2, whatever it said. |
| 00:01.04 | Cide | 2x's primitive function would be x^2, ya |
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| 00:01.14 | Cide | >>> (13^2)-(10^2) |
| 00:01.15 | Cide | Cide: 69 |
| 00:01.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik has officially been pwned by Randall Munroe |
| 00:01.23 | Shirik | quiet |
| 00:01.40 | alestane | So if you evaluated it, it said "69?" |
| 00:01.40 | Cide | I think the false proof I saw was like |
| 00:01.43 | Cide | yes |
| 00:02.24 | Cide | partially integrate 1 - 1/x |
| 00:02.24 | Cide | I think it was |
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| 00:02.38 | alestane | It was right next to the shirt that asserted Integral of e to the x is equal to f of u to the n. |
| 00:02.41 | sag_ich_nicht | the funny thing is, i don't even did calculus, so i know jackshit about those calculations and i knew right from the beginning shirik was doing it rong :P |
| 00:03.27 | NotShirik | Yeah, that Shirik guy |
| 00:03.31 | NotShirik | he's sstrange |
| 00:03.43 | NotShirik | he doesn't know anything |
| 00:03.48 | Cide | he's a noob |
| 00:04.26 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 00:04.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan |
| 00:04.30 | sag_ich_nicht | are you there? :P |
| 00:06.38 | Cidan | Yes |
| 00:06.41 | Cidan | working |
| 00:06.56 | sag_ich_nicht | I would appreciate it if you were to report to the Bugs forum(altho technically it's not a WoW bug) that shitty device drivers can cause a videocard/videocard driver crash because the paged pool runs out which then as reaction to that causes WoW to crash :P |
| 00:07.52 | sag_ich_nicht | so that blizzard might integrate a check for the current used pagedpool so their crash messages aren't quite as useless :P |
| 00:08.43 | sag_ich_nicht | or maybe this dude who claims to not be shirik could do that |
| 00:09.05 | Fin | he could maybe ask Shirik to do it when he sees him |
| 00:09.13 | kd3 | whee, the devs spawned the badge vendor |
| 00:09.39 | MentalPower | kd3: do you, like, live inside the PTR? |
| 00:09.43 | MentalPower | :) |
| 00:09.55 | sag_ich_nicht | kd3 care to report a bug for me? (well, not a bug as much as a not detected bug in windows that will make it look like a WoW bug) |
| 00:10.07 | alestane | kd3: That a hot update? I didn't see any client patch half an hour ago. |
| 00:10.25 | kd3 | hot update. much like them finishing the portal quest |
| 00:10.38 | NotShirik | alestane: I think kd3 means just some NPC that gives out badges |
| 00:10.49 | NotShirik | or did something break? |
| 00:11.16 | kd3 | nah, they just set the completion percentage of http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Making_Ready to 100 |
| 00:11.39 | kd3 | was around 36% ~10 minutes ago |
| 00:12.13 | kd3 | and outland's about to crash. fun stuff. |
| 00:12.21 | NotShirik | how can you tell? |
| 00:12.53 | kd3 | there's probably ~1000 people standing within 10 yards of me |
| 00:13.58 | NotShirik | ah |
| 00:18.02 | NotShirik | rofl Thrae |
| 00:18.24 | NotShirik | good post, but my powercfg settings are so much better than the ones you posted |
| 00:18.35 | NotShirik | Existing Power Schemes (* Active) |
| 00:18.35 | NotShirik | ----------------------------------- |
| 00:18.35 | NotShirik | Power Scheme GUID: 0c85e721-ef67-451a-98d0-e46224050aa3 (FTW) * |
| 00:19.35 | NotShirik | which basically is |
| 00:19.46 | NotShirik | "use all the power you can, drain every ounce out of that transistor" |
| 00:20.25 | kd3 | thought so |
| 00:20.27 | kd3 | down goes outland |
| 00:21.15 | sag_ich_nicht | NotShirik huh? |
| 00:21.16 | sag_ich_nicht | link |
| 00:21.21 | NotShirik | definitely not shirik |
| 00:21.26 | NotShirik | Shirik is awesome at math |
| 00:21.32 | NotShirik | I apparently can't integrate x/2 |
| 00:21.38 | sag_ich_nicht | NotShirik link the thread you refered to |
| 00:21.52 | Cide | yeah |
| 00:21.53 | Cide | x/6 |
| 00:21.55 | Cide | x^2/6 |
| 00:21.58 | NotShirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14946 |
| 00:22.00 | Cide | wtg. |
| 00:22.07 | NotShirik | 2*2 = 6 obviously |
| 00:22.14 | Cide | it is |
| 00:25.53 | NotShirik | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 00:26.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pong |
| 00:26.33 | Shirik | you |
| 00:26.46 | Shirik | mr. "I'm going to disappear so Shirik can't duel me" |
| 00:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 00:27.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me copy my keybindings/macros over and patch this computer |
| 00:27.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Gimme just a minute |
| 00:27.11 | ScytheBlade1 | How much resiliance do you have? |
| 00:28.22 | ScytheBlade1 | And out of curiosity, where did you get the urge to duel me? |
| 00:28.26 | Shirik | 275ish |
| 00:28.30 | Shirik | I dunno, you were an easy target |
| 00:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | stop being a pussy ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:28.39 | Shirik | aren't you a gnome mage? |
| 00:29.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ScytheBlade1: also you can just ask Shirik to integrate x/2, you will automatically win the duel |
| 00:29.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, with a whopping 82 resiliance in assorted blues |
| 00:29.35 | Cide | or just 1 |
| 00:29.39 | Cide | I don't think he could integrate that |
| 00:29.41 | Cide | (dx) |
| 00:30.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Patching... |
| 00:30.11 | Shirik | er |
| 00:30.16 | Shirik | my group wants to start arenas now |
| 00:30.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Irony |
| 00:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | mr. "I'm going to disappear so Sbo can't duel me" |
| 00:30.44 | Shirik | 30 minutes |
| 00:30.46 | Shirik | be ready. |
| 00:30.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:30.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Not going to lie, I'll die horribly |
| 00:31.13 | Shirik | it's ok, I do no damage |
| 00:31.17 | Shirik | and surely Cide is easier to kill |
| 00:31.27 | Cide | I demolish mages |
| 00:31.27 | ScytheBlade1 | You're a shadow priest with resiliance |
| 00:31.29 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll do enough |
| 00:31.33 | Shirik | I am not a shadow priest |
| 00:31.36 | Shirik | shadow priests are evil |
| 00:31.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Who was then? |
| 00:31.45 | ScytheBlade1 | *thinks |
| 00:32.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: what class are you? |
| 00:32.26 | Cide | priest |
| 00:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, diaf |
| 00:33.01 | Cide | like I said |
| 00:33.03 | Cide | I demolish mages |
| 00:33.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Shadow or disc? |
| 00:33.24 | Cide | disc |
| 00:33.26 | Cide | ofc |
| 00:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | actually Shirik |
| 00:33.41 | Cide | can't kill me before you're out of mana :P |
| 00:33.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 00:33.56 | Cide | and then I want you to death while renewing myself |
| 00:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I now how that goes |
| 00:34.07 | sag_ich_nicht | you should sneak into some lecture and write that on the board shortly before the first students arrive |
| 00:34.14 | Mike-N-Go_ | What do you guys charge for your nehters? |
| 00:34.14 | sag_ich_nicht | *math lecture |
| 00:34.16 | sag_ich_nicht | and wait what happens |
| 00:34.29 | sag_ich_nicht | depends on my mood |
| 00:34.40 | sag_ich_nicht | 120 if i'm in a bad mood 70 when i'm in a good mood |
| 00:34.41 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 00:34.45 | Cide | Shirik should probably go to some math lectures |
| 00:35.05 | sag_ich_nicht | iceburn |
| 00:35.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll be waiting outside of lower city |
| 00:35.11 | Cide | Shirik: differentiate x^2/6 for me? |
| 00:35.22 | Shirik | x/3 damnit |
| 00:35.26 | Shirik | I know calculus |
| 00:35.30 | Cide | I can tell |
| 00:35.33 | Cide | x/6? |
| 00:35.44 | Shirik | x/3... |
| 00:35.50 | Cide | really. |
| 00:35.56 | Cide | oh, as in |
| 00:36.05 | Cide | differentiate x/6? |
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| 00:36.20 | Shirik | 1/6 |
| 00:36.24 | Cide | interestingly, neither of them are equal to x/2 |
| 00:36.35 | Shirik | I don't know what you're talking about, I know calculus |
| 00:36.35 | Shirik | you must have been talking about that other guy |
| 00:36.39 | Cide | Shirik: oh, right! |
| 00:36.40 | Cide | my bad |
| 00:37.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Better not touch ag_UF on the PTR... bad things might happen there |
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| 00:37.22 | Shirik | better not touch ag either |
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| 00:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | MobHealth3 is probably broke on the PTR, too.. |
| 00:41.59 | kd3 | whatever pitbull's using to guestimate health is working ok |
| 00:42.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Pitbull is working already? wow |
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| 00:46.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I'M WAITING. |
| 00:49.58 | Nolook | Doesn't Pitbull use MobHealth? wait...just looked, it uses LibMobHealth-4.0 |
| 00:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 4.0! |
| 00:51.30 | Kaso | "70% of Americans say nanotechnology is morally unacceptable" |
| 00:51.43 | Kaso | "70% of Americans think science fiction is real life" |
| 00:52.31 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 00:52.41 | sag_ich_nicht | how the hell would nanotechnology be morraly un... gah |
| 00:53.11 | Kaso | The think of nanobots turning people into gray-soup and/or supermen, and think its unacceptable |
| 00:53.24 | Kaso | They dont know that buckyballs and nanotubes are what nanotech in real life is |
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| 00:53.35 | sag_ich_nicht | durrrr |
| 00:55.21 | Cairenn | rrrud |
| 00:56.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, they fixed a lot of FPS and sound issues on the PTR |
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| 00:56.44 | harder | yello |
| 00:56.53 | harder | mmmh, what's the +hit needed to never miss a lvl 70...for an hunter? |
| 00:57.06 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: world server die? |
| 00:57.07 | Cide | if there was an API function to tell you, I'd know |
| 00:57.09 | kd3 | crash #2 |
| 00:57.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "World server is down" yay |
| 00:57.28 | harder | Cide: lol |
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| 01:00.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: 19:30 <@Shirik> 30 minutes |
| 01:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | 20:00 < ScytheBlade1> Shirik: 19:30 <@Shirik> 30 minutes |
| 01:00.59 | Shirik | almost done |
| 01:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | YOU HAVE HAD YOUR THIRTY. |
| 01:01.23 | Shirik | I apologize but Drenden's queues are slow |
| 01:01.27 | Shirik | and my teammates are slower |
| 01:01.33 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 01:04.51 | Cidan | Shirik: New commit incoming |
| 01:10.14 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Smith_Hauthaa |
| 01:10.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you waited too long. afk dinner real quickly |
| 01:10.45 | sag_ich_nicht | WHAT |
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| 01:12.15 | Shirik | !ap 1557 |
| 01:12.15 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1557 is, 2v2: 311, 3v3: 361, 5v5: 410 |
| 01:12.21 | Shirik | !ap 1608 |
| 01:12.21 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1608 is, 2v2: 361, 3v3: 418, 5v5: 475 |
| 01:13.35 | Cidan | Shirik: NEW UPDATE GO GO GO, etc. bbl, :/ |
| 01:13.46 | Shirik | go go go bbl?? |
| 01:14.29 | Cidan | also there's a bug with the recurssive child releasing, D: I've yet to nail it down and all my work arounds give me the same error. I'm starting to think I'm insane. |
| 01:14.35 | Cidan | oh well, will look later. |
| 01:14.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: back |
| 01:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, you need better ratings |
| 01:15.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ~fail Shirik |
| 01:15.09 | purl | Shirik: Fail. |
| 01:15.14 | Shirik | stfu |
| 01:15.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I played RMP for a single week as deep fire |
| 01:15.31 | ScytheBlade1 | And got 1620 |
| 01:15.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 10 games total! |
| 01:16.28 | Shirik | RMP? |
| 01:16.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Rogue/Mage/Priest |
| 01:19.36 | ScytheBlade1 | You're also 20 minutes past your stated time |
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| 01:25.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, PTR is laggy |
| 01:25.23 | ScytheBlade1 | We may want to postpone this until after peak hours |
| 01:25.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ~1sec of spell lag |
| 01:25.45 | Shirik | as much as I wonder if this is you trying to further delay your death |
| 01:25.54 | Shirik | I will acquiesce to your request |
| 01:26.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Log on and find out for yourself ;P |
| 01:30.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a raid in an hour. After that, maybe? |
| 01:33.01 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:35.56 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, ping |
| 01:36.06 | Shirik | sup |
| 01:36.09 | Shirik | Tem|AFK: pong |
| 01:36.14 | Tem|AFK | the updater is teh broke for me |
| 01:36.14 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:36.18 | Tem|AFK | want my errors.log? |
| 01:36.43 | Shirik | what's the problem? |
| 01:37.20 | Tem|AFK | when I go to update stuff, I click confirm and then it says "backing up old interface" |
| 01:37.29 | Tem|AFK | then it says "internal error" or something similar |
| 01:37.44 | Shirik | Yeah quite a few people have been reporting that |
| 01:37.55 | Shirik | do me a favor, on the page it should tell you the command to get a verbose log |
| 01:37.57 | Shirik | can you run that for me? |
| 01:38.19 | Tem|AFK | sure |
| 01:39.47 | ScytheBlade1 | So I have a new thing to do while I sit and wait during raid downtime |
| 01:39.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Herb on my druid. |
| 01:40.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Last time, I pulled two fel lotus, 15 mana thistle, 25 Netherbloom, and 15 Felweed |
| 01:42.11 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, http://wowi.pastey.net/82598 |
| 01:42.22 | Tem|AFK | ScytheBlade1, you're herbing the wrong place imo |
| 01:42.44 | Tem|AFK | well, maybe not |
| 01:42.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I was just herbing to herb |
| 01:42.56 | Tem|AFK | I like to herb zangarmarsh |
| 01:43.05 | Tem|AFK | because I <3 mad alchemist |
| 01:43.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Tonight I'm in Nagrand, collecting mats for mana pots |
| 01:43.13 | Tem|AFK | lol mana pots |
| 01:43.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, my main isn't an alchemist |
| 01:43.21 | Tem|AFK | mad alch > mana pot |
| 01:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | As a mage, I ate 27 mana pots in a single night |
| 01:43.35 | ScytheBlade1 | So... I kinda need them |
| 01:43.36 | Tem|AFK | yep |
| 01:43.45 | Tem|AFK | <-- mage |
| 01:43.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, Kael attempts |
| 01:44.04 | ScytheBlade1 | The /other/ mages get the shadow priest |
| 01:44.09 | Tem|AFK | haha |
| 01:44.20 | Shirik | !ap 1517 |
| 01:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. :( |
| 01:44.20 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1517 is, 2v2: 275, 3v3: 319, 5v5: 362 |
| 01:44.22 | Shirik | !ap 1571 |
| 01:44.22 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1571 is, 2v2: 325, 3v3: 376, 5v5: 427 |
| 01:45.00 | Shirik | ok anyway Tem|AFK |
| 01:45.03 | Shirik | sorry, I was in arena |
| 01:45.06 | Tem|AFK | np |
| 01:45.08 | Shirik | did you see how to get that log? |
| 01:45.11 | Tem|AFK | http://wowi.pastey.net/82598 |
| 01:45.24 | Shirik | perfect thank you |
| 01:45.34 | Tem|AFK | hmm |
| 01:45.38 | Tem|AFK | why is the date wrong? |
| 01:45.47 | Shirik | uh |
| 01:45.50 | Shirik | is your computer's date wrong? |
| 01:45.52 | Tem|AFK | no |
| 01:46.24 | ScytheBlade1 | aaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwww |
| 01:46.25 | ScytheBlade1 | .... |
| 01:46.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrong keyboard! |
| 01:46.41 | Tem|AFK | lawl |
| 01:46.42 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:47.44 | Shirik | I think it's a problem with SavedVariablesPerCharacter... |
| 01:47.48 | Shirik | it's the only thing that seems to be consistent |
| 01:49.13 | Tem|AFK | hmm, u geif fix |
| 01:49.15 | Shirik | Tem|AFK: Just for the hell of it |
| 01:49.29 | Shirik | can you double check the modified date on that file is today, and that there's nothing at the end with the correct date? |
| 01:49.39 | Shirik | that date shouldn't be wrong >< |
| 01:49.46 | Tem|AFK | dude, it's saying january |
| 01:49.57 | Tem|AFK | I didn't have the program in jan |
| 01:50.01 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:50.04 | Shirik | okay |
| 01:50.12 | Tem|AFK | the date is somehow wrong |
| 01:50.23 | Shirik | let me check my setup package real quick |
| 01:50.46 | Tem|AFK | oh hey, it's java |
| 01:50.49 | Tem|AFK | I can look too |
| 01:51.03 | Tem|AFK | hmm, food first |
| 01:51.10 | Shirik | yeah I didn't package in the log |
| 01:51.12 | Shirik | thati s really strange |
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| 02:10.38 | Shirik | Tem|Food, I may have found the problem |
| 02:10.39 | Shirik | checking now |
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| 02:11.13 | Cidan | ... |
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| 02:11.14 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 02:11.16 | Shirik | ....... |
| 02:11.23 | Shirik | so that was the wrong button >.> |
| 02:11.29 | Cidan | mass deop? |
| 02:11.31 | Cidan | if so, that was fail |
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| 02:11.46 | Shirik | no, that was me hitting the perfect combination to select 3 people in the user list, open the menu, and then kick them |
| 02:11.50 | Shirik | from the keyboard |
| 02:11.52 | Cidan | rofl |
| 02:11.54 | Shirik | because my hand was shifted one to the left |
| 02:12.19 | Shirik | I'm sorry dolby-wowi cladhaire =( |
| 02:12.58 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:13.54 | Shirik | This |
| 02:14.00 | Shirik | is precisely why programs should not be designed like emacs |
| 02:14.11 | Shirik | There should not be a five hundred button combination to do something like that |
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| 02:16.19 | Shirik | Tem|Food: When you get a chance, I want to build a debug version of the JAR for you, send it to you, and have you run that |
| 02:16.25 | Shirik | I need to pick up something specific |
| 02:16.28 | Shirik | if that's ok with you |
| 02:20.30 | kd3 | huh, they've scheduled the date to shoot down the dying spysat |
| 02:24.11 | Kaso | Remeber, it's all about the safety! Not at all about what type of satalite it is? Whats that? a "spy" satalite? oh news to us! |
| 02:25.03 | Shirik | omg <3 pandora |
| 02:25.59 | Shirik | ohhhhhhhh |
| 02:26.13 | Shirik | Tem|AFK, do you have any characters that you've never logged into? |
| 02:26.15 | Shirik | sounds strange |
| 02:26.18 | Shirik | but do you? |
| 02:26.48 | Shirik | did I really type out Tem|AFK instead of tab completing? o.o |
| 02:27.14 | Kaso | hah noob |
| 02:28.00 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:30.17 | Nom- | LOL |
| 02:30.28 | Nom- | http://www.news.com.au/comments/0,23600,23238015-421,00.html <-- read comment 9 |
| 02:30.41 | Nom- | That guy is an absolute idiot.. where do you think regular tap water comes from, moron? |
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| 02:32.13 | batrick | he's an aussie, don't take him seriously :P |
| 02:32.21 | Shirik | who the hell buys imported water? |
| 02:32.36 | batrick | people that live in a desert? |
| 02:32.41 | Nom- | Umm, like noone... |
| 02:33.06 | batrick | that is pretty funny tho |
| 02:33.14 | batrick | sodium flouride is dangerous lol! |
| 02:33.14 | Nom- | Most of the bottled water you buy these days is just filtered tap water anyway |
| 02:33.34 | Nom- | A bottle is just a lot more practical than a cup on so many situations |
| 02:34.19 | Kaso | Panorama did a show on bottled water last week |
| 02:34.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | CHLORINE IS POISONOUS THUS TABLE SALT MUST BE |
| 02:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW COMPOUNDS WORK SO I WILL INCORPORATE MY IGNORANCE FURTHER INTO MY CONSPIRACY THEORIES |
| 02:34.52 | kd3 | oh noes we're all gonna die |
| 02:35.28 | Kaso | The big issue with bottled water is how much oil the crap wastes, in plastics and diesel, that oil aint gonna last for ever |
| 02:35.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | Nom-, i just bought a 24 pack of bottles that i reuse :shrug: |
| 02:35.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to get a faucet convertor for my filter though |
| 02:36.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i don't get that chlorine taste in my coffee and tea |
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| 02:36.42 | WobWork | You can get bottle inserts for water filtration |
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| 02:36.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 02:36.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just want some of the chlorine taste |
| 02:37.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | gone |
| 02:37.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | from tea |
| 02:37.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't mind it in ordinary drinking water though |
| 02:37.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not too strong |
| 02:37.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it will throw off the flavor of tea |
| 02:37.37 | WobWork | http://www.brita.com.au/britaproducts/filtersportbottle |
| 02:37.51 | Kaso | I dont really drink tea, but filtered water drank plain tastes crap, i like the nice fluoride,chlorine in water |
| 02:37.55 | Cairenn | hey AlexanderYoshi :) |
| 02:38.11 | AlexanderYoshi | hi Karen |
| 02:38.15 | WobWork | Kaso: unflouridated water is a bad thing, in general =P |
| 02:38.27 | WobWork | You end up with crappy teeth |
| 02:38.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i devour tea like a person of both chinese and english descent in india |
| 02:39.03 | Kaso | haha |
| 02:39.04 | WobWork | ditto |
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| 02:40.21 | Shirik | I need to clean out my logs |
| 02:40.38 | Shirik | The top of my verbose.log file for the updater is 2007-2-10_9-20-29> C++ main entering MainFrame.ExecuteUpdate() |
| 02:40.46 | Shirik | february 10 2007 >< |
| 02:41.02 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 02:41.08 | Shirik | it's 400MB |
| 02:44.21 | Shirik | rofl, I'm sitting here like "man why is it moving so slow" |
| 02:44.30 | Shirik | my debugger hit a breakpoint >.> |
| 02:49.01 | AlexanderYoshi | lol! |
| 02:49.07 | AlexanderYoshi | How long did that take to realize? |
| 02:49.35 | Shirik | about 5 minutes >< |
| 02:49.51 | Shirik | problem is it didn't stop one of the other threads, so I'm watching that one |
| 02:49.56 | Cidan | You know what rocks? |
| 02:49.57 | Shirik | but I was waiting for this thread to finish |
| 02:49.59 | Cidan | Sending WoW into a loop |
| 02:50.05 | Shirik | Cidan: mountains |
| 02:50.13 | Shirik | and cradles |
| 02:50.17 | AlexanderYoshi | Like a cool loop or a hang loop? |
| 02:51.46 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 02:51.48 | sag_ich_nicht | an AlexanderYoshi. |
| 02:52.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Folks, I know I've seen such a thing, I think on WoWInterface or Curse - anyone know the name of a mod that prevents you from casting on CC'd/Sheeped targets? |
| 02:52.14 | Shirik | that wouldn't be possible |
| 02:52.19 | Shirik | it can yell at you, but not prevent you |
| 02:53.22 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 02:53.23 | sag_ich_nicht | if ZealotOnAStick it epilectic |
| 02:53.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and visually triggered |
| 02:53.33 | sag_ich_nicht | it could. |
| 02:53.50 | ZealotOnAStick | not for me. |
| 02:53.55 | ZealotOnAStick | We've got a dot-happy shadow priest. |
| 02:54.36 | Shirik | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 02:54.36 | purl | does a little 'renice 20 -u sag_ich_nicht' |
| 02:54.43 | Shirik | what? |
| 02:54.47 | Shirik | a command I don't understand :< |
| 02:55.02 | sag_ich_nicht | renice changes the priority of a process under linux |
| 02:55.37 | Shirik | wtf |
| 02:55.44 | Shirik | how does pandora pick this stuff up |
| 02:56.00 | Shirik | "we're playing this track because it features ... electronica influences" |
| 02:56.02 | Shirik | on a pop station |
| 02:56.06 | Shirik | and it's correct! |
| 02:56.19 | Dezzimal | think I can 3box normal mode shattered halls on a t6 prot paladin, t6 holy priest, t6 shadow priest? |
| 02:56.21 | Shirik | These people are geniuses |
| 02:56.24 | Shirik | tehy are the google of the music world |
| 02:56.33 | Dezzimal | daddy needs savagery |
| 02:56.42 | Guillotine | haha, wtf |
| 02:56.46 | Guillotine | worse AV loss ever |
| 02:56.50 | Guillotine | drek was at 3% |
| 02:57.08 | Guillotine | when it says 'The stormpike general is dead! The horde win!" |
| 02:57.13 | Guillotine | except they hadn't attacked him yet |
| 02:57.15 | Keias | I love that phrase |
| 02:57.18 | Keias | Every single AV loss |
| 02:57.22 | Guillotine | 1 person aggrod and he bugged and apparently ended the game |
| 02:57.24 | Keias | there's always some guy who says "worst AV ever" |
| 02:57.29 | Keias | It never fails |
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| 02:57.43 | Guillotine | but I'm serious :P Horde wern't even attacking Alliance general yet |
| 02:57.46 | Guillotine | but it ended due to a bug |
| 02:57.49 | Guillotine | giving horde the win |
| 02:57.49 | Keias | harsh |
| 02:58.20 | sag_ich_nicht | oh god |
| 02:58.24 | sag_ich_nicht | please stop him |
| 02:58.31 | sag_ich_nicht | he wants to run linux in the window kernel space |
| 02:58.33 | sag_ich_nicht | he is insane |
| 02:59.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | so, #wowi-lounge |
| 02:59.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1080p projector, 7500:1 contrast ratio |
| 03:00.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1399 USD |
| 03:00.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want |
| 03:00.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 03:00.29 | AlexanderYoshi | I bought a 1080p 46 inch display for $980 |
| 03:00.37 | AlexanderYoshi | So good |
| 03:00.52 | Cairenn | ZealotOnAStick: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6826-CCWarn.html |
| 03:01.21 | Cairenn | not exactly right |
| 03:01.52 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7200-CCBreakWarner.html |
| 03:02.07 | Cairenn | those are both for the person doing the crowd control, I know |
| 03:03.24 | Cairenn | ahhhhh, here we go! |
| 03:03.32 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7068-SleepyTime.html |
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| 03:04.27 | Shirik | found it Tem |
| 03:04.38 | Shirik | I think |
| 03:05.07 | Shirik | you know how they call things edge cases when something fails only when a very specific set of things happen? |
| 03:05.14 | Tem | heh |
| 03:05.16 | Shirik | This was like a .... cliff of the grand canyon cases |
| 03:05.30 | Tem | Shirik, I don't think I have any characters that I haven't logged into, but it's possible, I suppose |
| 03:05.41 | Shirik | It isn't what I thought it was |
| 03:05.43 | Shirik | so that's irrelevant |
| 03:05.50 | Tem | k, so what is it? |
| 03:06.02 | Shirik | btw, do you get internal error for every addon? |
| 03:06.04 | Shirik | or just one |
| 03:06.09 | Tem | every addon |
| 03:06.14 | Shirik | hm |
| 03:06.18 | Shirik | well I'm not quite sure then >< |
| 03:06.32 | Tem | the only one I don't get the error for is Yatlas |
| 03:06.35 | Tem | because it's already up to date |
| 03:06.47 | Shirik | well it may be a chain effect |
| 03:07.03 | Shirik | One of the things I have to do in the updater is traverse backwards through the directory until I match something |
| 03:07.08 | Tem | well, fix it and I'll grab the new code and then we can find out |
| 03:07.26 | Shirik | In a specific case, it goes past that and keeps looking until it goes out root |
| 03:08.26 | Cairenn | ZealotOnAStick: was that the one you were remembering? |
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| 03:13.00 | Shirik | ugh |
| 03:13.08 | Shirik | addons that have files that aren't supposed to be installed ftw |
| 03:13.38 | sag_ich_nicht | different word for wishing someone something |
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| 03:14.05 | AlexanderYoshi | anyone had any luck converting their addons over to the new combat log system |
| 03:14.18 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: go ask Antiarc |
| 03:14.40 | AlexanderYoshi | does everyone just use the parser from ace now? |
| 03:14.46 | Antiarc | Nah, no parsers |
| 03:14.51 | Antiarc | I'm just using the combat log events straight |
| 03:14.56 | AlexanderYoshi | So basically only one guy's actually rewriting things? hehe |
| 03:14.56 | Antiarc | Seems to work pretty decently overall |
| 03:15.01 | AlexanderYoshi | Issues? |
| 03:15.09 | Antiarc | Well, I know that Cryect and Elsia are working on Recount |
| 03:15.10 | sag_ich_nicht | now help me here, i need to rewrite "good night" into some statement in the same way i can rewrite "ur dumb" into in "insulting troll statement" |
| 03:15.22 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: The constants need to be in FrameXML, not in an addon, for one |
| 03:15.22 | AlexanderYoshi | Salutation? |
| 03:15.31 | AlexanderYoshi | Oh yes, I know about that one |
| 03:15.33 | Antiarc | Right now I have to put all the combat log constants at the top of each file that I do parsing in |
| 03:15.33 | sag_ich_nicht | no more personal |
| 03:15.41 | AlexanderYoshi | I'll move it before launch |
| 03:15.46 | Antiarc | Hehe, woo |
| 03:15.47 | Corrodias | i like to use "have a nice night" |
| 03:15.53 | AlexanderYoshi | Xinhuan pleaded for that one |
| 03:15.53 | Antiarc | Uhh, let me think |
| 03:15.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Corrodias: no |
| 03:16.01 | AlexanderYoshi | so you can thank him |
| 03:16.02 | sag_ich_nicht | read what i want to do again |
| 03:16.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i want to describe the statement using variable |
| 03:16.16 | Corrodias | variable what? |
| 03:16.17 | sag_ich_nicht | *using a variable |
| 03:16.23 | sag_ich_nicht | "insulting troll statement" |
| 03:16.25 | sag_ich_nicht | is a variable |
| 03:16.32 | sag_ich_nicht | for e.g. "ur dumb" "ur an idiot" etc. |
| 03:16.33 | Antiarc | I'm very sad that Feign Death doesn't have any combat log messages in 2.4, but that's unavoidable, I suppose |
| 03:16.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i need the same kind of variable for "good night" :P |
| 03:16.40 | AlexanderYoshi | sadly |
| 03:16.50 | Corrodias | you want a description of the phrase "good night"? i don't know one |
| 03:16.58 | Antiarc | It would be great to have the srcName and srcGUID when a unit gets SPELL_AURA_APPLIED - that is, who was responsible for the aura being applied |
| 03:16.58 | sag_ich_nicht | see? that's my problem. |
| 03:17.12 | Antiarc | Right now it's nil, which is consistent with 2.3 behavior, but is kinda annoying |
| 03:17.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:16] <Antiarc> I'm very sad that Feign Death doesn't have any combat log messages in 2.4, but that's unavoidable, I suppose <--what, why |
| 03:17.47 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 03:17.54 | Shirik | that is officially the ugliest if statement I have ever written |
| 03:17.57 | Shirik | that so needs to be rewritten |
| 03:18.00 | Tem | Antiarc, UNIT_SPELLCAST doesn't give you feign death info? |
| 03:18.07 | AlexanderYoshi | > [19:22] Antiarc: It would be great to have the srcName and srcGUID when a unit gets SPELL_AURA_APPLIED - that is, who was responsible for the aura being applied |
| 03:18.10 | AlexanderYoshi | That can't be done. |
| 03:18.13 | Antiarc | Tem: It does. Kinda. But you don't get per-mob resist messages |
| 03:18.19 | Tem | ah |
| 03:18.22 | AlexanderYoshi | It would quadrupal the bandwidth usage of WoW |
| 03:18.23 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: Hehe, figured not, but figured I'd ask :) |
| 03:18.27 | Antiarc | Hahah, wow. |
| 03:18.32 | Antiarc | Yeah, let's keep that nil. |
| 03:18.42 | Antiarc | Some of the combo constants aren't suitable for easy bit.band testing |
| 03:18.44 | Antiarc | Like uh... |
| 03:18.55 | Antiarc | The MY_PET one |
| 03:19.10 | Antiarc | If you bit.band(srcFlags, MY_PET) == MY_PET, it's always false |
| 03:19.17 | Antiarc | Because MY_PET includes Pet and Guardian |
| 03:20.00 | sag_ich_nicht | *hears |
| 03:20.01 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 03:20.21 | Tem | sag_ich_nicht, tell your resto druids to chill the F out |
| 03:20.26 | Antiarc | So I just ended up constructing the mask I really wanted (0x1111, rather than 0x3111), but it'd be nice to have some additional constants that can be used for parsing without every addon having to recompute the mask |
| 03:20.37 | AlexanderYoshi | I juse use |
| 03:20.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem: but their heal meter position is all wrong :( |
| 03:20.48 | AlexanderYoshi | CombatLog_Object_IsA(srcFlags, MY_PET) |
| 03:20.51 | Tem | boohoo |
| 03:20.59 | AlexanderYoshi | I think that should work |
| 03:21.09 | Antiarc | I'll check that function out - didn't see it before |
| 03:21.17 | Antiarc | Will that be available in FrameXML? |
| 03:21.34 | AlexanderYoshi | Probably not, but I can probably make a CombatLogConstants.lua |
| 03:21.55 | Antiarc | I know a couple of people have seen the same GUID showing up for multiple distinct units |
| 03:22.00 | Antiarc | But I don't have further info on that |
| 03:22.10 | AlexanderYoshi | That's a bug. |
| 03:22.12 | AlexanderYoshi | We're fixing it. |
| 03:22.21 | Antiarc | There is no constant defined for pet happiness - you just see $powerType in the log |
| 03:22.28 | Antiarc | When you feed a pet |
| 03:22.31 | AlexanderYoshi | fixed next week sometime |
| 03:22.36 | Antiarc | Yay :) |
| 03:22.36 | Shirik | Tem: This is beautiful. I obviously found this problem before. |
| 03:22.45 | Tem | oro? |
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| 03:22.53 | Antiarc | Overall, I'm really happy with it all |
| 03:23.06 | Shirik | There's a comment // TODO: This is WRONG. isChild() should NOT return true if the parent is equal to the child. Fix or we could have bugs later. |
| 03:23.11 | Shirik | >.> |
| 03:23.14 | AlexanderYoshi | Good. |
| 03:23.27 | Shirik | Apparently I never went back to fix it |
| 03:23.28 | Corrodias | parent = child? |
| 03:23.32 | Cidan | Tem: ... |
| 03:23.33 | AlexanderYoshi | Believe me, convincing the people necessary that this change was worth it was quite difficult |
| 03:23.37 | Cidan | Tem: oro? |
| 03:23.44 | Antiarc | It's going to make our lives a LOT easier :) |
| 03:23.57 | Tem | Cidan, what do you want now? |
| 03:24.12 | Shirik | I think he was confused by your "oro" |
| 03:24.15 | AlexanderYoshi | Good. Maybe someday we'll get Lifebloom fixed :( |
| 03:24.18 | Cidan | Tem: D: |
| 03:24.29 | Cidan | No, not... confused. Surprised. |
| 03:24.31 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: I don't think this is necessarily your area, but it'd be wonderful to have a spell ID in UNIT_SPELLCAST_* |
| 03:24.35 | Cidan | Haven't heard that in a long time. |
| 03:24.37 | Tem | AlexanderYoshi, I don't see anything wrong with it, tbh |
| 03:24.47 | Cidan | Man |
| 03:24.49 | Tem | Cidan, that's what I get for working with a bunch of weaboos |
| 03:24.52 | AlexanderYoshi | It doesn't log the caster of the original aura for intended reasons, but |
| 03:24.57 | AlexanderYoshi | its a PITA to figure out |
| 03:24.59 | Corrodias | CombatLog_Changes_IsA( srcFlags, AWESOME_IDEA ) |
| 03:25.05 | Cidan | This must be why devs never login anymore. lulz. |
| 03:25.06 | Shirik | Oh how I <3 conditional breakpoints |
| 03:25.16 | Antiarc | Also, is there a reason that things like Sunder don't produce combat log messages when you refresh a 5-stack? |
| 03:25.28 | Shirik | To make producing addons more difficult |
| 03:25.39 | AlexanderYoshi | ... they should |
| 03:25.42 | Shirik | :) |
| 03:25.43 | Antiarc | ie, if a debuff is stacked to max, there's no log message generated when you land a successful sunder and refresh the stack |
| 03:25.47 | Antiarc | There isn't |
| 03:25.50 | Shirik | Yeah he's right, there isn't |
| 03:25.51 | AlexanderYoshi | APPLIED_AURA_STACK |
| 03:25.56 | AlexanderYoshi | ermm |
| 03:25.57 | Shirik | o_o |
| 03:25.59 | Corrodias | uh oh! |
| 03:26.02 | AlexanderYoshi | ok |
| 03:26.05 | AlexanderYoshi | email me with a test case |
| 03:26.11 | Antiarc | Sure will - what's your email? |
| 03:26.15 | AlexanderYoshi | private PM please |
| 03:26.36 | Shirik | What you don't want to give your email to 130 crazy wow nuts? |
| 03:26.48 | Shirik | hehe |
| 03:26.51 | Shirik | ~hug AlexanderYoshi |
| 03:26.52 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs AlexanderYoshi |
| 03:26.52 | AlexanderYoshi | If I keep it secret, it preserves the mystique. |
| 03:27.02 | AlexanderYoshi | If I told everyone, you'd never email me./ |
| 03:27.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:28.04 | Antiarc | Haha |
| 03:28.18 | AlexanderYoshi | Besides, its cooler to pretend I'm not some short, overweight american with an overbite. |
| 03:28.27 | Cidan | So you're not? |
| 03:28.31 | Cidan | Fooled me. |
| 03:28.33 | Cidan | I KID |
| 03:28.33 | AlexanderYoshi | If you knew the truth, you'd be hurt. |
| 03:28.36 | Cidan | Christ, :P |
| 03:28.39 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: There is a message when you increment the counter on a stack - SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE, but none when you refresh the duratoin of a max-stacked debuff |
| 03:28.47 | AlexanderYoshi | oh |
| 03:28.51 | AlexanderYoshi | I don't think thats a bug |
| 03:29.02 | AlexanderYoshi | the state of the aura hasn't change |
| 03:29.05 | AlexanderYoshi | just its duration |
| 03:29.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Want to know what IS a bug though? Cross faction inspection |
| 03:29.12 | sag_ich_nicht | then consider adding a feature for it. :P |
| 03:29.12 | Tem | weak |
| 03:29.17 | AlexanderYoshi | isnt there a cast message for sunder armor? |
| 03:29.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: o.o?? |
| 03:29.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:29] <ScytheBlade1> Want to know what IS a bug though? Cross faction inspection <--don't call that a bug. |
| 03:29.31 | sag_ich_nicht | that is a feature go away creepo |
| 03:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: function CanInspect() return true; end |
| 03:29.35 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:29.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Tada! |
| 03:29.42 | Shirik | iios |
| 03:29.43 | Shirik | oops |
| 03:29.44 | Tem | Shirik, you can inspect people and see their talents |
| 03:29.48 | Tem | you can't see their gear, though |
| 03:29.51 | Shirik | that sounds like a little security hole there >< |
| 03:29.53 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: Yes, but there is no "landed" message, so you can't tell if the sunder landed, except for checking for the absence of a miss in a reasonable timer period |
| 03:29.58 | Shirik | ah you can't |
| 03:30.25 | AlexanderYoshi | Ah, thats right, there's no success message for auras is there |
| 03:30.29 | Antiarc | No :( |
| 03:30.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:29] <@Shirik> that sounds like a little security hole there >< <--that is a feature not a bug GO AWAY CREEPO i don't want to have to load an arena team armory dump mod again |
| 03:30.38 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht: lol |
| 03:30.40 | Shirik | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 03:30.41 | purl | does a little 'renice 20 -u sag_ich_nicht' |
| 03:30.45 | Shirik | o.o |
| 03:30.46 | Shirik | twice |
| 03:31.01 | Cidan | ~lart Shirik |
| 03:31.01 | purl | beats Shirik over the head with a microkernel |
| 03:31.03 | AlexanderYoshi | Well, unfortunately, I don't have the authority, access or skill to fix something like that. |
| 03:31.05 | Cidan | D: |
| 03:31.13 | Antiarc | Hehe, I suspected not, just figured I'd ask :) |
| 03:31.24 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm more than happy to hear your suggestions and complaints though. |
| 03:31.31 | AlexanderYoshi | Just realize I can't do much ;) |
| 03:31.33 | Corrodias | i complain that i am bad a PvP |
| 03:31.36 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: you could try to reach someone who has th... damn it now you said it already :P |
| 03:31.37 | Antiarc | Hehe, fair enough! |
| 03:31.48 | Cidan | So |
| 03:32.01 | Cidan | Are we taking bets as to how long it will take to drive AlexanderYoshi out of the channel? |
| 03:32.10 | Cidan | I say two hours, tops. 20 on it. |
| 03:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends on how many times we say AlexanderYoshi per minute |
| 03:32.28 | AlexanderYoshi | You're definately burning up your AlexanderYoshi time with unimportant topics so far |
| 03:32.38 | Cidan | Hah |
| 03:32.39 | AlexanderYoshi | Its like the genie |
| 03:32.43 | AlexanderYoshi | If you wish too fast, they're gone |
| 03:32.49 | Tem | INFINITE COSMIC POWER |
| 03:32.49 | AlexanderYoshi | If you don't wish at all, you die an old maid |
| 03:32.52 | JoshBorke | (10:28:21 PM) AlexanderYoshi: Besides, its cooler to pretend I'm not some short, overweight american with an overbite.<-- i'm offended, i am a short, overweight american with an overbite :-( |
| 03:32.54 | Tem | itty bitty living space |
| 03:33.04 | Shirik | I wish to live forever and have infinite wishes |
| 03:33.09 | AlexanderYoshi | We're brothers in dental work, Josh :( |
| 03:33.17 | Antiarc | Oh, spell reflect - it effectly shows SPELL_DAMAGE with both the srcGUID and dstGUID as the mob that cast the original spell, if a warrior reflects said spell |
| 03:33.27 | AlexanderYoshi | correct! |
| 03:33.32 | Antiarc | Which is workaround-able, but sorta unintuitive for threat/damage tracking purposes |
| 03:33.33 | Corrodias | i'm getting fat, does that count? |
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| 03:33.37 | AlexanderYoshi | That's waht's actually happening |
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| 03:33.49 | AlexanderYoshi | the warrior's not getting threat |
| 03:33.54 | Antiarc | He's not? o.0 |
| 03:33.54 | Corrodias | that's awesome. |
| 03:33.55 | Tem | is that why there were so many bugs with talents that proc from spellcasts? |
| 03:33.58 | AlexanderYoshi | unless you know something I don't |
| 03:34.03 | AlexanderYoshi | yeeep |
| 03:34.04 | Tem | (like impact and frostbite) |
| 03:34.05 | Antiarc | The EJ guys were swearing yesterday that they do |
| 03:34.10 | AlexanderYoshi | Hmm |
| 03:34.13 | AlexanderYoshi | They could be right |
| 03:34.15 | Shirik | there's a fairly easy way to test |
| 03:34.18 | AlexanderYoshi | I don't go around testing threat code |
| 03:34.19 | Antiarc | It's commonplace for warriors to tank some mobs entirely with spell reflect |
| 03:34.34 | Corrodias | isn't that boring? |
| 03:34.47 | AlexanderYoshi | Other than the paladin in the Illidari Council |
| 03:34.50 | AlexanderYoshi | Who else do they mess with |
| 03:34.52 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: maybe you should start doing :P |
| 03:35.04 | Antiarc | They were saying Hyjal mobs |
| 03:35.05 | AlexanderYoshi | *shrug* |
| 03:35.50 | AlexanderYoshi | The necromancers? |
| 03:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ...3 months later... patch 2.4.2, "the threat system has been generally reworked, players should be aware that monsters may be more easy to anger now" |
| 03:35.59 | AlexanderYoshi | They're tauntable anyways so |
| 03:36.03 | Guillotine | so going with the xkcd of today, I have a challenge for y'all. Name 2 functions for which the integral of the function is equal to the function itself (assuming C=0) |
| 03:36.18 | AlexanderYoshi | i = integral i di |
| 03:36.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine: just ask Shirik to integrate x/3 |
| 03:36.20 | Antiarc | I'll ask, but yeah, they were adamant that warriors get spell reflect threat, modified by their stance/defiance |
| 03:36.27 | Corrodias | 0? |
| 03:36.29 | AlexanderYoshi | er was it e |
| 03:36.37 | kd3 | e(x) |
| 03:36.46 | Shirik | it's obviously x^2/6 |
| 03:36.50 | Shirik | +c |
| 03:36.52 | Guillotine | Corrodias got one |
| 03:36.57 | Corrodias | yay <3 |
| 03:36.59 | Shirik | Shirik knows his calculus, that NotShirik guy didn't |
| 03:37.03 | Guillotine | kd3 is real close |
| 03:37.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik yeah right |
| 03:37.10 | sag_ich_nicht | go and pretend that |
| 03:37.25 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you should go take some math classes Shirik |
| 03:37.34 | Shirik | I'm in diff eq sadly |
| 03:37.41 | Shirik | Cmon, I'm a CE. I have to use math on a daily basis >< |
| 03:37.45 | Shirik | I just don't do it in an IRC client |
| 03:37.47 | Shirik | Fricking rotating phasors |
| 03:37.50 | Shirik | #*%)(@#851 |
| 03:37.53 | AlexanderYoshi | anyways |
| 03:37.55 | Shirik | batrick knows what I'm talking about |
| 03:38.00 | AlexanderYoshi | I doubt if EJ has any good test cases |
| 03:38.13 | MentalPower|PC | e^x |
| 03:38.20 | Guillotine | MP: yup |
| 03:38.23 | Shirik | e^x+c |
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| 03:38.26 | Antiarc | Hehe, yeah |
| 03:38.56 | Shirik | Guillotine: e^x is the obvious one |
| 03:39.05 | Shirik | oh, 0? |
| 03:39.11 | Guillotine | yes, Corrodias already said that :P |
| 03:39.14 | Shirik | boo |
| 03:39.21 | Shirik | I never even saw the question until now :( |
| 03:39.25 | Guillotine | hehe |
| 03:39.28 | Antiarc | (8:38:04 PM) Valoran: I've had a DPS warrior at 160% of my threat on omen |
| 03:39.33 | Guillotine | well grats on coming up with it yourself then :) |
| 03:39.35 | Antiarc | (8:38:25 PM) Valoran: at mobs glued to me on hyjal trash because they've shadowbolted themselves in the face for 20k damage |
| 03:39.36 | sag_ich_nicht | AlexanderYoshi: uncouple the raidtab from the rest of the friendsframe? :( |
| 03:39.40 | Antiarc | (8:38:49 PM) Valoran: with no other damage been done to them from me |
| 03:40.12 | MentalPower|PC | wow, slipstreaming vista SP1 is a real pain |
| 03:40.13 | Shirik | Tem: I believe I have a fix if you want it |
| 03:40.24 | Tem | u gief |
| 03:40.33 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: Also, what's the difference between UNIT_DIED and UNIT_DESTROYED? A kill vs a despawn? |
| 03:40.39 | Shirik | wait |
| 03:40.41 | Shirik | I have part of a fix |
| 03:40.44 | Shirik | one of the errors went away >< |
| 03:40.45 | Shirik | the other didn't |
| 03:40.55 | AlexanderYoshi | totem vs unit |
| 03:40.56 | Shirik | well, try it anyway, see what happens |
| 03:40.57 | Corrodias | oh darn, that's two Heartbrokens in a row today |
| 03:40.58 | kd3 | unit_destroyed is killing totems, isn't it? |
| 03:41.04 | Shirik | how do you want me to get it to you? |
| 03:41.14 | Antiarc | Oh, okay. |
| 03:41.18 | Antiarc | Makes sense. |
| 03:41.22 | Tem | Shirik, gimme access to your svn |
| 03:41.27 | Tem | assuming you've got one |
| 03:41.37 | Tem | or email if you're no fun |
| 03:41.38 | Shirik | no SVN at the moment; I removed it a while ago (long story) |
| 03:41.42 | Shirik | You know, that makes sense |
| 03:41.50 | Shirik | let me make a new repo |
| 03:41.52 | Antiarc | I think that's about all I have at the moment, but I'll store up a list of other thoughts next time I see you drop by :) |
| 03:42.21 | sag_ich_nicht | on a non-combatlog related note, AlexanderYoshi, uncouple the raidtab from the rest of the friendsframe? :( (i know i'm repeating myself, but it probably went under in Antiarc's chat paste) |
| 03:44.52 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe then i won't have that urge to stab AnduinLothar in the head anymore >.> |
| 03:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and now i go to bed |
| 03:44.56 | sag_ich_nicht | night :P |
| 03:45.05 | Antiarc | I need to find ckknight's UnitGUID thread |
| 03:45.20 | Antiarc | Because I'm contemplating synching target GUIDs in the raid every time you switch targets |
| 03:45.22 | Antiarc | And that will be ugly |
| 03:45.26 | Antiarc | And I don't want to have to do that :( |
| 03:45.26 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: google: site:wowace.com GUID |
| 03:45.38 | Antiarc | It's on the wow forums |
| 03:46.12 | Corrodias | with all these romantic picnic baskets, i have to go ahead and finalize my shaman |
| 03:46.16 | Corrodias | so i can send her one |
| 03:46.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: you are doomed then |
| 03:46.50 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 03:46.56 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 03:47.08 | Antiarc | At any rate, kudos on the new combatlog, AlexanderYoshi :) |
| 03:47.20 | Antiarc | Aside from having to rewrite reams of code, we're all really excited for it. |
| 03:47.52 | Corrodias | my epeen is growing just thinking about how accurate my dps meter will be |
| 03:48.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ooooh waitt before i leave |
| 03:51.03 | sag_ich_nicht | there is a bug in the current combat log with the simon's game daily in blade's edge, and it probably carried over into the new one, an event for it fires with the internal buffname, but doesn't show up in the combat log, this is combined with a zoning event firing each time you gain the buff, which is ...weird, to say the least. |
| 03:51.24 | sag_ich_nicht | not so much with the combat log probably |
| 03:51.38 | sag_ich_nicht | but we can pretend it is with it so you can talk about it while i go and sleep :P |
| 03:53.18 | JoshBorke | i'm confused |
| 03:54.35 | AlexanderYoshi | bleh |
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| 03:54.36 | JoshBorke | but anyway, i'm always confused, so g'night |
| 03:54.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Buhahaha |
| 03:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Lootlag on Kael is awesome |
| 03:54.55 | AlexanderYoshi | If you're going to sync the guid every time a target change happens |
| 03:55.07 | AlexanderYoshi | that's an incredible waste of bandwidth |
| 03:55.11 | Antiarc | I know :/ |
| 03:55.14 | Antiarc | But I need a way to know what GUID raid members are targeting |
| 03:55.22 | AlexanderYoshi | ugh, I'll see if I can get UnitGUID("raid10target") |
| 03:55.27 | AlexanderYoshi | no promises though |
| 03:55.31 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
| 03:55.35 | Antiarc | I will be ecstatic if you can |
| 03:55.48 | ScytheBlade1 | We ALL will be, hehe |
| 03:55.54 | AlexanderYoshi | Well, its either that or pay for you to send the message 10000 times |
| 03:56.12 | Esine | WoW question: For a 19 twink mage should I get +8 sta or +8 spell dmg to head? |
| 03:56.19 | Antiarc | I think it war originally declined due to "automation concerns"? |
| 03:56.28 | Antiarc | But I don't see how that's any more exploitable than UnitName |
| 03:56.30 | Esine | also I've heard you can get something like +100 health for head but I don't know if that's true.. |
| 03:58.52 | Corrodias | ZG? >_> |
| 03:59.00 | Corrodias | nah, you can't enter it at 19 i think |
| 03:59.05 | Esine | Corrodias, no |
| 03:59.17 | Esine | I'll get someone else to get the Arcanum of Focus or Voracity |
| 03:59.20 | Esine | someone high level |
| 03:59.34 | Esine | then he can apply the item to my twink's head armor through the Not traded window |
| 03:59.39 | Esine | http://www.wowwiki.com/Arcanum_of_Focus http://www.wowwiki.com/Lesser_Arcanum_of_Voracity_(stamina) |
| 04:02.15 | Lukian | Esine, I'd probably go spelldmg, if anyone gets in melee range of you - you are pretty screwed :D |
| 04:02.23 | Corrodias | 60-minute cooldown on infernal? wow, could they make the spell more useless, possibly? |
| 04:02.31 | Esine | Lukian, well actually I'm more worried about the rogues.. |
| 04:02.36 | Corrodias | i remember hearing it's going to be made useful in the future, though. that'd be nice. |
| 04:02.39 | Esine | they hit like 200 dmg for SS crit |
| 04:02.54 | Lukian | Esine, hmm ouch |
| 04:03.19 | Lukian | My shaman is in the 49 bracket atm working on getting 1k earth shock crits :D |
| 04:04.27 | AlexanderYoshi | ok my raid starts in 30 seconds |
| 04:04.29 | AlexanderYoshi | any last questions? |
| 04:04.43 | Antiarc | Can I have a cookie? |
| 04:04.52 | Corrodias | hey, that's not nice! i got flagged for telling my pet to attack a flagged mob, but called it back before it did anything to it |
| 04:05.21 | Antiarc | Thanks for popping in :) |
| 04:05.53 | Antiarc | Dammit, should have asked for a full suit of Sunwell armor before it even goes live! |
| 04:07.04 | Corrodias | i'm glad my hunter will get a 90+ dps bow without raiding BT |
| 04:07.11 | Corrodias | or totally kicking ass at pvp |
| 04:10.36 | Keias | oh noes netsplit |
| 04:10.36 | Esine | :( |
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| 04:11.29 | Shirik | Thank god for nbs-irc |
| 04:11.29 | Shirik | So much nicer.... |
| 04:11.29 | Corrodias | a warlock (affliction) helped me by soloing ST yesterday, but it seemed he had a lot more trouble than the mage and feral druids have had |
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| 04:11.43 | Shirik | So much easier to read. |
| 04:11.57 | Esine | how much does (frost) spell damage REALLY affect? say if I could choose between +5 sta and +5 frost spell damage which one would you choose (as a 19 mage)? |
| 04:12.09 | Esine | does +5 spell damage mean it makes 5 points more damage? so instead of 70 it hits 75.. or? |
| 04:12.18 | Esine | (my main is a rogue so I don't know about this magic using stuff) |
| 04:13.26 | Antiarc | Esine: For PVE, frozen wrath is the way to level :) |
| 04:13.32 | Esine | no, PvP |
| 04:13.40 | Antiarc | For PVE you want stamina |
| 04:13.47 | Antiarc | Stamina > * for twink PVP |
| 04:13.51 | Corrodias | the coefficients for each spell are different |
| 04:13.54 | Esine | yes |
| 04:13.56 | Corrodias | for what portion of spell damage is applied |
| 04:13.56 | Esine | PvP* |
| 04:14.00 | Corrodias | you can look them up on wowwiki |
| 04:19.07 | Fin | a friend of mine is complaining that the zone he's in has stopped spawning mobs... anybody heard of anything like that before? |
| 04:20.04 | MentalPower|PC | prolly just lag |
| 04:20.23 | Fin | that's what I thought, but he's already thought of that |
| 04:20.24 | Corrodias | i haven't |
| 04:20.29 | Fin | and, he's been running around for 15 minutes |
| 04:20.51 | Guillotine | tell him to ask in general |
| 04:20.54 | Esine | we've had something like that a few times in European realms |
| 04:20.56 | Esine | all mobs gone |
| 04:21.06 | Guillotine | I've had that both server side and client side |
| 04:21.09 | Esine | so you could run through shadowmoon valley or whereever and there'd be no one |
| 04:21.15 | Esine | though I think that was just after a server restart.. |
| 04:21.34 | Guillotine | e.g. if you mind vision someone from arena master and they run to the gryphon in shat, you are temporarily out of sync with the server and you can run anywhere without seeing mobs spawn |
| 04:21.57 | Guillotine | and though I haven't seen it in about a year and a half, every mob on our server despawned |
| 04:29.29 | Corrodias | if it's truly not a desync, he can call a GM to have the zone ... i think they can reset them, but maybe i don't know what i'm talking about |
| 04:31.08 | Esine | I don't think GMs have that much power.. |
| 04:31.41 | Corrodias | maybe he can get someone to reset it. it's better than nothing, anyway. |
| 04:38.01 | Fin | he relogged, and mobs are still gone |
| 04:38.10 | Fin | he's put a ticket in |
| 04:38.41 | Fin | interesting to know about GMs being able to reset zones |
| 04:38.51 | Fin | noone around at the moment, though - at least not answering his ticket (yet :) |
| 04:42.48 | Corrodias | i'd like to think so, but maybe they can't help |
| 04:53.05 | Tem | any locks around? |
| 04:53.13 | Iriel | yes? |
| 04:53.17 | Iriel | though not a PvP one. |
| 04:53.25 | Tem | I'm curious what they did to the epic mount quest for you guys |
| 04:53.38 | Iriel | Ah, i'm about 1/2 a level short of 60, so I can't tell you yet 8-) |
| 04:54.40 | Fin | yes |
| 04:54.48 | Fin | it's trainable now |
| 04:54.55 | Fin | you just buy it from the trainer at level 60 |
| 04:55.01 | Iriel | What? |
| 04:55.02 | Fin | 5g I think |
| 04:55.04 | Corrodias | in 2.4? |
| 04:55.06 | Iriel | That's boring |
| 04:55.10 | Fin | oh, no, wait |
| 04:55.13 | Fin | that's just the normal mount |
| 04:55.20 | Fin | duh |
| 04:55.34 | Fin | the epic mount quest hasn't changed, I think - I still had to go to Dire Maul and do the summonses etc. |
| 04:55.48 | Fin | a friend of mine had bought all the stuff, so I didn't have to spend the 350g or whatever |
| 04:55.55 | Tem | so, what about the mats? |
| 04:56.02 | Tem | they'd be pretty hard to come by these days |
| 04:56.07 | Fin | they're reduced I believe, but still significant |
| 04:56.08 | Tem | didn't it require some Arcanite bars? |
| 04:56.10 | Fin | yeah, it was hard to get some of them |
| 04:56.13 | Fin | yes, but not as many |
| 04:56.18 | Fin | 3? |
| 04:56.27 | Fin | my memory isn't exactly very good |
| 04:56.55 | Fin | I remember trying quite hard to find anyone who wasn't using their transmute cooldown for something else, though, and then not being able to find any sodding arcane crystals |
| 04:57.22 | Fin | but apparently it was a lot needed of most things before |
| 04:57.52 | kd3 | people used arc crystals for something other than arc bars? |
| 04:57.55 | kd3 | oO; |
| 04:58.00 | Fin | no, they just don't sell them |
| 04:58.14 | Fin | the Horde AH on our server is shit |
| 04:58.23 | Fin | Alliance has about 3x more items |
| 04:58.26 | kd3 | well, how often are people farming thorium veins in this day and age? |
| 04:58.28 | Fin | then again, 3x more players |
| 04:58.41 | Fin | they're not, I guess :) |
| 04:59.16 | Corrodias | i'm hoping it won't be too hard for me to get the mats... |
| 04:59.28 | Fin | asme with all the low level stuff, it's extortionate the prices people try and charge - but I guess a lot of people actually do pay 5g per stack of Wool, etc. |
| 05:00.30 | Fin | depends on how many friends you have, or how generous your guildmates are! :) some people helped me grind a couple of things (duoed a couple of 60 instances for the LBSs, and I had to boost a mate in return for him farming thorium for me) |
| 05:00.34 | Fin | -farm+grind |
| 05:01.37 | Fin | I want a phoenix mount |
| 05:01.53 | Fin | I want one so badly I think I might cry |
| 05:02.04 | kd3 | I'll be satisfied with the phoenix pet off 5-man kael |
| 05:02.09 | Corrodias | if it's not BoP, my druid can gather anything pre-BC |
| 05:02.13 | Fin | phoenix pet? wow |
| 05:02.17 | Corrodias | pretty much anything |
| 05:02.33 | Fin | how do you mean? surely you can't skin and mine and herb? |
| 05:02.41 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kael'thas_Sunstrider_(Sunwell_tactics)#Loot |
| 05:02.45 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Phoenix_Hatchling |
| 05:02.45 | Corrodias | skinning, no, but my hunter can do that |
| 05:02.52 | Fin | kd3: awesome! |
| 05:03.10 | Corrodias | i'm more concerned about the non-consumed items |
| 05:03.10 | Fin | I don't mean to be objectionable, but you did say your drood :) |
| 05:03.14 | Fin | not your drood and hunter :) |
| 05:03.21 | Corrodias | "pretty much anything" |
| 05:03.35 | Corrodias | i know they cost quite a bit, but i was kinda hoping for the sake of completeness to get them on my little lock alt |
| 05:03.53 | Fin | heh |
| 05:05.28 | Fin | anything specific? |
| 05:06.31 | Corrodias | about what? |
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| 05:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Know what I like about the PTR? |
| 05:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | The feedback addon |
| 05:19.56 | kd3 | <3 |
| 05:20.03 | kd3 | just wish they'd include the new instances |
| 05:20.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm whining about mana/wizard oil currently |
| 05:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb stacks of five, not stack of one with five charges |
| 05:21.05 | Corrodias | why? |
| 05:21.15 | Shirik | because you can't "recharge" it I assume |
| 05:21.34 | Corrodias | hm, okay |
| 05:22.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it's stupid to have a single item with one charge, and another item with four charges, of the same thing |
| 05:22.23 | ScytheBlade1 | And be unable to combine them |
| 05:22.53 | Fin | it's just like a stack of 5 scrolls |
| 05:23.01 | Fin | but in one item |
| 05:23.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. And, you can't restack them currently |
| 05:23.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is infuriating beyond belief |
| 05:23.28 | Fin | I guess so that people can craft an item that can be used 5 times without having to dick around with weird amounts of materials? |
| 05:23.59 | Fin | oh, I see, you mean, when you're down to one charge you can't recharge them? |
| 05:24.03 | Fin | that is annoying |
| 05:24.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 05:24.17 | Fin | I hate having to carry 2 oils |
| 05:24.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, what else to whine about |
| 05:25.55 | Fin | priest spells not being reagent-free before the battle starts and after resurrecting in BGs |
| 05:26.08 | Fin | (also droods I GUESS) |
| 05:26.19 | Fin | it's not fair |
| 05:26.27 | Fin | locks don't have to farm more soul shards |
| 05:26.45 | Fin | also: lack of group underwater breathing buff for locks! |
| 05:27.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:27.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I should run the netherwing mines and complain about the ravagers |
| 05:27.44 | Fin | I'm serious! |
| 05:28.00 | Fin | everyone else gets group buffs |
| 05:28.21 | cladhaire | only warlocks spells are reagent free |
| 05:28.23 | Fin | clear example of anti-lock prejudice |
| 05:28.25 | cladhaire | i.e. shards |
| 05:28.29 | cladhaire | oh |
| 05:28.30 | cladhaire | lol |
| 05:28.32 | cladhaire | nevermind |
| 05:28.44 | Fin | are they? oh |
| 05:28.44 | cladhaire | i read what you wrote like 5 times trying to figure out what you were saying :P |
| 05:28.54 | cladhaire | yeah, if a spell costs reagents |
| 05:28.56 | cladhaire | it costs reagents |
| 05:28.57 | Fin | nono, you got it right |
| 05:29.02 | cladhaire | arena preparation doesn't change that |
| 05:29.07 | cladhaire | nor does the BG buff |
| 05:29.14 | cladhaire | and thats "intentional" |
| 05:29.17 | Fin | hum, OK then |
| 05:29.24 | Corrodias | intentional why, i don't know |
| 05:29.57 | Fin | are there any other classes with more than 2 group buffs that can be active on the same target at the same time? |
| 05:30.12 | cladhaire | priests only |
| 05:30.15 | cladhaire | that i'm aware of |
| 05:31.32 | Corrodias | they need to make the doomguard useful in arenas |
| 05:31.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:31.40 | Fin | people who complain about the expense though, or don't bother buffing some group stuff because it uses reagents, that's a bit crap |
| 05:31.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Replace one of your team members with a doomguard? |
| 05:32.05 | WobWork | Fin: in BG or raid? |
| 05:32.12 | Corrodias | AND give us a way to unleash them on towns without having to die in the process |
| 05:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | (If he says BGs, I'm going to injure him...) |
| 05:32.51 | WobWork | "WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR FRIEND?" |
| 05:32.56 | WobWork | (best line ever) |
| 05:33.00 | Fin | WobWork: I was thinking about parties in my head, most people there's no excuse if they don't group buff in radis - but yes, I personally think BGs too; but I hardly PvP at all compared to most people |
| 05:33.07 | Fin | I only did my first AV quest two weeks ago |
| 05:33.17 | WobWork | PS aren't buffs free when starting up in a BG? |
| 05:33.22 | clad|rowing | i do NOT group buff in battlegrounds |
| 05:33.27 | clad|rowing | absolutely not |
| 05:33.34 | WobWork | or does it still cost reagents |
| 05:33.35 | Fin | regardless it's only 1g or so per BG as a priest with 3 usable buffs per group |
| 05:33.37 | clad|rowing | i'm not wasting my money for you to have a buff until you die |
| 05:33.43 | clad|rowing | I will single buff half the raid |
| 05:33.46 | clad|rowing | plain and simple |
| 05:33.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Blowing reagents in BGs is generally stupid. If you live more than 4 minutes, you are either (1) afk (2) preforming, where you'll get the buff anyways, or (3) running away |
| 05:34.05 | ScytheBlade1 | If you don't live more than four minutes, grats, your buffs just poofed. |
| 05:34.07 | Fin | the way I see it, it's not like I'm not being selfish - I understand it's very important to be selfish in PvP - it just makes it more likely for our side to win |
| 05:34.10 | WobWork | or being healed to high heaven |
| 05:34.21 | Fin | everyone says this |
| 05:34.29 | Corrodias | brb |
| 05:34.30 | Fin | it's the answer I have heard every single time I've seen the subject come up :) |
| 05:34.34 | Fin | I still disagree |
| 05:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | No it doesn't. It changes nothing. The stupid people in greens will die, the stupid people in purples will faceroll, and the smart people in purples will dominate |
| 05:34.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Regardless of buffs |
| 05:35.02 | Fin | I can afford 8s per buff, even if it is for hardly any reason - the thing I care about most is the mana cost, so I only group buff when it's free or Inner Focus is up |
| 05:35.06 | Guillotine | faceroll! |
| 05:35.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Faceroll I tell you! |
| 05:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | But really. /targetraid; /cast Buff |
| 05:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Click x40 |
| 05:35.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Cheap group buffs! |
| 05:35.31 | clad|rowing | yep |
| 05:35.33 | clad|rowing | or use an addon |
| 05:35.38 | WobWork | targetraid? |
| 05:35.42 | Fin | takes too long, and too much mana |
| 05:35.43 | clad|rowing | with buffy i can single buff all three priests buffs on 30 of the 40 members in the raid |
| 05:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Targets the next member of your raid |
| 05:35.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Fin: free buffs in BGs... |
| 05:35.50 | clad|rowing | Fin: doesn't cost mana in B |
| 05:35.51 | clad|rowing | BG |
| 05:35.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Zero mana |
| 05:35.51 | clad|rowing | so. |
| 05:35.54 | clad|rowing | or arena |
| 05:35.58 | WobWork | oh and it cycles? |
| 05:36.00 | Fin | raids in arena? |
| 05:36.00 | WobWork | that's kinda cool |
| 05:36.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Further, it takes an entire minute |
| 05:36.19 | Fin | before a fight, sure, I'm really talking about other times :) |
| 05:36.20 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: yeah it cycles, same with /targetparty |
| 05:36.25 | WobWork | well.. you're waiting for the gate to open =) |
| 05:36.40 | WobWork | useful! |
| 05:36.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Unless I'm preforming with you, you're not with 8 silver or my two seconds of my time |
| 05:37.02 | WobWork | I should remember that for buffing pre 60 |
| 05:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Because, like me, you'll die within the first couple minutes |
| 05:37.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Because people are stupid. |
| 05:37.20 | Tem | ugh |
| 05:37.22 | Fin | before a fight I'd rather group buff anyway, just becuase the time it takes to farm what, max 5 groups times 3 buffs times 8s = 6g, is probably longer than it takes to cast 165 individual buffs |
| 05:37.29 | Tem | they really screwed up the speed of leveling mining |
| 05:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Groups |
| 05:37.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Groups? Parties? Raids? No problem with group buffs. |
| 05:37.44 | Tem | because they made the player level faster, but mining levels at the same old rate |
| 05:37.51 | WobWork | yeah |
| 05:37.53 | Tem | so, I'm now ahead of my mining skill in levels |
| 05:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | BGs? You can either enjoy your 30m or you can stfu |
| 05:38.01 | Fin | there's less people camping the veins, tho |
| 05:38.03 | WobWork | welcome to running around winterspring =P |
| 05:38.05 | Tem | as a result, I can't mine anything in this zone |
| 05:38.22 | WobWork | although you're a druid, yeh? |
| 05:38.23 | Fin | ScytheBlade1: we can just repeat ourselves if you like, everyone agrees with you, I just don't, is all :) |
| 05:38.36 | Tem | so, in order to keep my mining skill up, I have to go back to old zones and just grind mining |
| 05:38.42 | Tem | that's a pain in the ass |
| 05:38.47 | WobWork | at least the ore sells |
| 05:38.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Fin: Yeah, it's just a touchy subject for me. -.- |
| 05:38.55 | Tem | WobWork, I'm also leveling JC |
| 05:38.58 | Tem | all my ore goes there |
| 05:39.03 | Tem | and yes, I'm a druid |
| 05:39.04 | WobWork | at least the ore is useful =) |
| 05:39.11 | WobWork | cause stealthmining is the way to go |
| 05:39.20 | WobWork | it's the only way to go =P |
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| 05:39.23 | Guillotine | I'm looking for an AddOn that will automatically ghetto buff everyone before BG starts and heal them to full, but I haven't been able to find one :( |
| 05:39.33 | WobWork | I think clad wrote something like that |
| 05:39.42 | WobWork | could have been a macro though |
| 05:39.45 | Guillotine | I searched for buffy, but couldn't find it :/ |
| 05:39.54 | Fin | do you use FuBar? |
| 05:39.59 | Guillotine | not atm |
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| 05:40.06 | Guillotine | I'll probably end up making my own |
| 05:40.07 | Fin | well, CorkFu might work anyway without it |
| 05:40.11 | Guillotine | so that I can have healing a priority |
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| 05:40.17 | Guillotine | that way I get bumped up on the healing list |
| 05:40.30 | Guillotine | fort+flash heal=1k free healing to start the game off with |
| 05:41.20 | Fin | oooh, BuffQ looks like a WhisperCast replacement |
| 05:41.29 | Fin | I've thought a few times that someone should make one that works outside of combat |
| 05:41.59 | Guillotine | MacroWhisper kind of helps replace WhisperCast, though someone might want to edit it a bit to let it target specifics |
| 05:42.06 | Guillotine | yah, it only works out of combat |
| 05:42.18 | Guillotine | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7520/ feel free to take it over if you want |
| 05:42.20 | Fin | I don't have any room for any more macros |
| 05:42.30 | Fin | there are too few macro slots in the game by about 200 |
| 05:42.37 | Fin | ditto ignore slots and friend slots |
| 05:42.55 | Guillotine | well, you can technically extend macro slots |
| 05:43.02 | Guillotine | since secure buttons can have macro text |
| 05:43.15 | Fin | I tried SuperMacro again after a long time, and it still had problems |
| 05:43.27 | Guillotine | doesn't supermacro attempt to make macros longer as well? |
| 05:43.36 | Fin | yes, that's why I mentioned it :) |
| 05:44.09 | Corrodias | my friend list actually filled up a couple of weeks ago |
| 05:44.14 | Corrodias | supermacro is dead, isn't it? |
| 05:44.14 | Guillotine | people 'reporting' addons for having bugs ftw |
| 05:44.18 | Fin | what would be nice... and I should do all this myself, I admit I'm just lazy - but, what would be nice is a key binding addon that let you bind keys to straight Lua |
| 05:44.30 | Fin | with some funky autocreation of functions or something |
| 05:44.57 | Guillotine | I started that but never got very far. It was kind of a flexbar where it was meant for individual buttons that were very customizable |
| 05:45.06 | Guillotine | too many AddOns, too little time! |
| 05:45.14 | Fin | it would be easy enough to add to some of the existing addons, I think, which is why I'm too lazy |
| 05:46.01 | Fin | SpeedBar looks interesting |
| 05:46.11 | Corrodias | i want a viral addon that infects any addons it can to make them run it. and what it will do is force elves to dance naked on mailboxes. |
| 05:46.32 | Guillotine | haha |
| 05:46.37 | Guillotine | we had a talk about that a while ago |
| 05:46.45 | Guillotine | its really too bad the SV file doesn't allow functions anymore |
| 05:46.53 | Guillotine | though I think that was changed way in early beta |
| 05:46.59 | Fin | I would like an addon that falsely reports people's DPS as higher than they think it is, so they stop overaggroing |
| 05:47.07 | Guillotine | thats too easy :P |
| 05:47.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 05:47.16 | Guillotine | well, for any AddOn that syncs |
| 05:47.20 | Fin | but with some sort of AI so that it's correct most of the time |
| 05:47.24 | Corrodias | i want a Recount that reliably combines pet damage with their owners' |
| 05:47.40 | Corrodias | there's a modified Recount that does it for the person running the addon, but not for the other people |
| 05:47.43 | Fin | ooh, that's a sneaky idea... a mod for the other addons people use that syncs badly |
| 05:47.46 | Fin | hah |
| 05:47.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:47.56 | Corrodias | :o |
| 05:48.20 | Guillotine | You know what the best is? AddOns that use the communication channels, but don't sanitize input. Its actually possible to make everyone on your server using the wowhead client start erroring >< |
| 05:48.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ROFL |
| 05:49.12 | Fin | I've often wondered how addons keep from being fooled |
| 05:49.27 | Guillotine | they can't keep from being fooled, but you should at least sanitize data |
| 05:50.47 | Fin | you bastard, well done |
| 05:50.55 | Fin | that guy... man |
| 05:51.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I use that when I apped to my last guild, in Gruul |
| 05:51.14 | ScytheBlade1 | "Anyone see Sbo at a million threat there for a second?" |
| 05:51.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Me: "???" |
| 05:51.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Raid: "Yeah, we did..." |
| 05:51.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Me: "???" |
| 05:51.36 | Fin | heh |
| 05:51.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I also had a "zero it out" button |
| 05:51.44 | Iriel | The next DevTools release will know a lot more about combat events (and will try and label the args correctly, amongst other things) |
| 05:51.46 | Corrodias | amusing... |
| 05:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Those two were an awesome pair |
| 05:52.02 | Fin | sneaky |
| 05:52.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: yeah, that'll be awesome |
| 05:52.27 | Guillotine | Iriel: awesome :) Thanks! |
| 05:52.30 | Iriel | I may even do some bitfield decoding |
| 05:52.34 | Iriel | I'm not sure how brave I am |
| 05:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:52.45 | Iriel | it already names the fields and prints the Flags in hex and decimal |
| 05:52.52 | Iriel | ('it' being my test version) |
| 05:53.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, I wondered what you were doing on the PTR |
| 05:53.07 | Guillotine | Scythe: Antiarc will probably kill me, but I should make a suite of Threat-2.0 fooling functions |
| 05:53.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It all makes sense now! |
| 05:53.17 | Guillotine | so that you can blame the AddOn instead of your non-attention |
| 05:53.28 | Guillotine | and nobody else would every know |
| 05:53.41 | Fin | know what? I didn't see nothin |
| 05:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: I'd love you for time an all eternity... Omen isn't as simple as SendChatMessage("KLHTM", "t 928749", "RAID"); |
| 05:54.02 | Guillotine | oh, I know |
| 05:54.15 | Guillotine | but the functions aren't locals |
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| 05:54.33 | Atriace | Anyone know of an event/way of knowing when a spell is ready? |
| 05:54.41 | Guillotine | just tell it you've continuously spammed fire blast |
| 05:54.44 | Guillotine | and it crit |
| 05:54.50 | Guillotine | for over 9 thousand |
| 05:54.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to read the source of Omen in detail to know how.. and that would involve becoming adept and knowledgable with Ace |
| 05:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: function name/params? :) |
| 05:55.07 | Antiarc | Threat would be pretty easy to send fake data to |
| 05:55.20 | Guillotine | Scythe: Best to wait and look at 2.0 :) |
| 05:55.33 | Guillotine | Antiarc: I said nothing |
| 05:55.48 | Antiarc | LibStub("Threat-2.0"):GetModule("Player"):COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED(your, params, here) |
| 05:55.51 | Antiarc | Tada |
| 05:56.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: *written down* |
| 05:56.03 | Antiarc | Hehe |
| 05:56.08 | Antiarc | Prz don't :( |
| 05:56.13 | Antiarc | Though that reminds me |
| 05:56.21 | Antiarc | I need an "ignore" feature for Omen2 |
| 05:56.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Whatever. I'm the only one in my current guild who has a clue about addons |
| 05:56.34 | Antiarc | So if someone ends up with bugged/bogus data you can knock 'em off the display |
| 05:56.36 | ScytheBlade1 | You won't get any false bug reports from me/anyone I know |
| 05:56.37 | Guillotine | Antiarc: now you need to have public key encryption for Threat-2.0 |
| 05:56.41 | Antiarc | Hehe |
| 05:56.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: About a Threat-1.0 way of doing it...? ;) |
| 05:57.16 | Antiarc | Hell, there's an easier way |
| 05:57.33 | Antiarc | LibStub("Threat-2.0"):GetModule("Player"):AddThreat(threat_to_add_to_all_targets) |
| 05:57.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there a RemoveThreat() by chance? |
| 05:57.53 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 05:58.00 | Antiarc | :AddThreat(negative_threat_number) |
| 05:58.01 | Antiarc | :P |
| 05:58.03 | Guillotine | just use a negative for it to be permanent though, riht? |
| 05:58.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:58.04 | Guillotine | yah |
| 05:58.21 | Guillotine | Scythe: your first AddOn. gogogo! |
| 05:58.29 | ScytheBlade1 | First? I have addons... :'( |
| 05:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure they're jokes, but, still :'( |
| 05:58.42 | Guillotine | My first AddOn |
| 05:58.47 | Guillotine | yelled leeroy and played the sound :( |
| 05:58.50 | Guillotine | I am so ashamed |
| 05:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:59.05 | Antiarc | 2.0 has AddThreat, AddTargetThreat, MultiplyThreat, MultiplyTargetThreat, and SetThreat |
| 05:59.08 | Guillotine | but someone offered to pay me 5g to make it |
| 05:59.10 | Antiarc | err, SetTargetThreat |
| 05:59.12 | Guillotine | and at the time that was a lot |
| 05:59.17 | Corrodias | but the only purpose of that would be to make your raid do worse |
| 05:59.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Tecnically my first addon yelled "BY FIBER BE PURGED" whenever Rag yelled "BY FIRE BE PURGED" |
| 05:59.24 | Antiarc | per player and pet module |
| 05:59.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I wrote it, and forgot about it until I started working on Rag |
| 05:59.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That was an AWESOME thing to remember. |
| 05:59.54 | Antiarc | We had a warlock that would die all the time |
| 05:59.59 | Guillotine | Corrodias: no, it would be to make your PuGs do worse |
| 06:00.12 | Antiarc | I wrote an addon that said "Oh my god! They killed Kuni!" in raid chat every time he died |
| 06:00.16 | Guillotine | haha |
| 06:00.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:00.19 | Antiarc | And secretly distributed it to half the raid |
| 06:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahaha |
| 06:00.26 | Guillotine | that is awesome |
| 06:00.29 | Corrodias | which sounds even less fun, Gui |
| 06:00.31 | Antiarc | So every time he died you got 25 "Oh my god! They killed Kuni!" messages |
| 06:01.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: how about Threat-1.0? ;) |
| 06:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: any relevant functions of interest for me? ;) |
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| 06:02.21 | Guillotine | Scythe: you should make an Omen replacement called "Threat Level" |
| 06:02.29 | Guillotine | just have it randomly display different colors from green to red |
| 06:02.39 | Guillotine | and every time a unit gets aggro, it goes red |
| 06:02.44 | Guillotine | then you can claim its always accurate |
| 06:02.45 | Shirik | rofl |
| 06:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:02.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Win |
| 06:03.14 | Shirik | You have to play "50 DKP MINUS" every time it goes red, too |
| 06:03.19 | Tem | advanced heuristics imo |
| 06:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | And something tells me that he's going to make me work for Threat-1.0 functions |
| 06:05.07 | Guillotine | I should do nothing but make AddOns all day every day |
| 06:05.08 | MentalPower|PC | Note to self: always use wired when transferring large files |
| 06:05.10 | MentalPower|PC | Wireless: 54Mbps |
| 06:05.10 | Guillotine | there are so many I want to make |
| 06:05.11 | MentalPower|PC | Wired: 100Mbps |
| 06:05.12 | MentalPower|PC | Wireless: 25% Utilization |
| 06:05.14 | MentalPower|PC | Wired: 90% Utilization |
| 06:05.16 | MentalPower|PC | Wireless: 1.44MB/s |
| 06:05.17 | MentalPower|PC | Wired: 10MB/s |
| 06:05.24 | kd3 | gack |
| 06:06.05 | Shirik | MentalPower|PC: Anyone who knows the details of the wireless protocols knows it is horribly inefficient, especially if multiple people are using the same router |
| 06:06.13 | MentalPower|PC | I'm the only one |
| 06:06.21 | MentalPower|PC | and I'm literally right next to the router |
| 06:06.22 | Shirik | Well that's a little better |
| 06:06.31 | MentalPower|PC | like 3feet away from it |
| 06:06.37 | Shirik | the distance isn't a major issue :) It's the fact that it doesn't follow windowing standards |
| 06:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | local inf = 1/0 |
| 06:06.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a good line |
| 06:07.06 | MentalPower|PC | Shirik: that one went way over my head |
| 06:07.07 | Shirik | and while it's fast, it could be a lot better wired, because there are ways of handling collisions on wire |
| 06:07.26 | Shirik | MentalPower|PC: Think of the scenario where both the router and the PC want to send something |
| 06:07.34 | Shirik | on a wire, the both detect the collision and recover from it |
| 06:07.52 | Shirik | On wireless, this is next to impossible to detect, so instead they went a different route: Ensure collisions are impossible |
| 06:08.04 | Shirik | the only way the can do that is a "wait and hold" technique where you always know who will transmit next |
| 06:08.10 | Shirik | unfortunately that's incredibly inefficient |
| 06:08.17 | Iriel | Shirik: Old school ethernet busses were equally collision happy |
| 06:08.18 | Corrodias | holy crap, i remember learning this in college |
| 06:08.28 | Shirik | Iriel: Yes, but that has been fixed now :) |
| 06:08.35 | Iriel | Shirik: It's only with today's modern switches and star topologies (cheap hardware == the yay) that we avoid it |
| 06:08.39 | Shirik | Yeah |
| 06:08.52 | Fin | yeah, pretty much any network connection is shit when lots of people are using the same router, unless it's a good router! :P |
| 06:08.55 | Iriel | token ring forever! |
| 06:09.00 | Iriel | smirks, even |
| 06:09.05 | Shirik | I made a token ring network in 6th grade |
| 06:09.11 | Fin | ... and ever... and ever... and ever... |
| 06:09.12 | Shirik | I had no clue what I was doing, they just told me "plugi n this cable here" |
| 06:09.15 | Corrodias | i lost the token in the ethernet |
| 06:09.38 | Shirik | And then the computer didn't have enough RAM to handle it or something |
| 06:09.39 | Shirik | I forget |
| 06:09.39 | Shirik | lol |
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| 06:10.36 | MentalPower|PC | WTB SMART over USB PST |
| 06:10.51 | ScytheBlade1 | wts USB pst |
| 06:11.07 | Fin | universal... it's so ironic they used that in the name |
| 06:11.26 | MentalPower|PC | well, it is pretty universal |
| 06:11.34 | Fin | balls |
| 06:11.41 | art3mis | and its way better than 9 and 25pin serial ;P |
| 06:11.51 | MentalPower|PC | just inefficient when it comes to hard-drive transfers |
| 06:12.21 | Fin | I strongly disagree |
| 06:12.24 | MentalPower|PC | and no SMART |
| 06:12.28 | MentalPower|PC | Fin: y? |
| 06:12.35 | Fin | sec, dying |
| 06:12.51 | Shirik | art3mis, die@! |
| 06:13.05 | Shirik | serial is the best communication system, I <3 it |
| 06:13.08 | Shirik | RS-232 4 LYFE |
| 06:13.49 | art3mis | laugh |
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| 06:14.14 | Shirik | I'm still bitching about it |
| 06:14.32 | art3mis | i kind of miss 25pin parallel |
| 06:14.39 | Fin | MentalPower|PC: (this may be Windows-centric; it might not be the protocol's fault; it's still shit) because there's three? four? more different kind of connectors for USB cables, because using a USB cable in a port might install a driver that's incompatible with another cable for that port, because transfer rates suck if you're use more than one on the same bus in my experience |
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| 06:14.42 | Shirik | Who the hell decided two make THREE DIFFERENT PROTOCOLS for it |
| 06:14.44 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Crysli (i=Tasma@0x503fe62e.bynxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 06:14.47 | Shirik | to* |
| 06:14.49 | Guillotine | for some reason, I hate using 'their' as a singular sex-independent possessive. |
| 06:15.01 | Shirik | but anyway, I got the circuit working |
| 06:15.04 | Shirik | so I'm happy. |
| 06:15.10 | Shirik | It's nice that I can wire 10 devices on the same serial line |
| 06:15.12 | Crysli | Yay people are still awake. |
| 06:15.21 | Guillotine | Crysli: its IRC. People are ALWAYS awake |
| 06:16.08 | Crysli | Yeah, but usually there are fewer on when I'm on. |
| 06:16.32 | Guillotine | ah |
| 06:16.36 | Guillotine | well, /wave |
| 06:16.43 | Crysli | ;) |
| 06:16.59 | MentalPower|PC | Fin: 4 connectors, tho only three are usually used |
| 06:17.09 | MentalPower|PC | Fin: and whats this about conflicting drivers? |
| 06:17.23 | dylanm | Guillotine: I'm with you on that. One of my favorite style guides recommends using the male form all the time and I think it reads better but invariably someone will say "OH SEXIST WHAT IF IT'S A GURL HUH". |
| 06:17.40 | MentalPower|PC | ~irc |
| 06:17.51 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 06:17.51 | Crysli | Ahahaha |
| 06:18.06 | Fin | MentalPower|PC: plugging in a USB device on Windows will assign a driver to that port, which is not necessarily compatible with the next thing you plug in |
| 06:18.17 | Fin | I think, although I'm not sure, that even actual cables can be different |
| 06:18.32 | Shirik | btw Iriel, now that what you said finally sunk in |
| 06:18.34 | MentalPower|PC | I've never encountered that |
| 06:18.36 | Fin | I'm pretty sure that I've used one cable to connect a drive, and tried another, but it didn't work - because of drivers |
| 06:18.41 | Guillotine | dylanm: see, for some reason I always think it is confusing when 'he' is used as gender neutral. English really needs a true gender-neutral pronoun :( |
| 06:18.41 | Fin | I have, several times |
| 06:18.48 | MentalPower|PC | and I only have two USB ports and a veritable shitton of USB shitz |
| 06:18.59 | Shirik | the problem isn't really the existence of collisions, it's that they can't be detected in the air (aside from a mismatched FCS). On a wire, a collision can be detected easily (via an overvolt) |
| 06:19.14 | Fin | I have only recently started using USB devices to any great extent |
| 06:19.24 | MentalPower|PC | what windows? |
| 06:19.25 | Shirik | At which time a collision signal can be transmitted and boom you're good to recover. (CSMA/CD ftw) |
| 06:19.36 | Guillotine | I really need to learn more of Lojban than just the basic sayings :( |
| 06:19.36 | Cidan | Shirik: Is there a continue operator for loops in lua? |
| 06:19.40 | Iriel | Shirik: I'd agree that they can't always be detected in the air |
| 06:19.45 | Fin | 6 months ago I didn't even have a flash drive, also no camera, bluetooth dongle, or flash disk in my phone |
| 06:19.46 | MentalPower|PC | Cidan: no |
| 06:19.53 | Shirik | Cidan: Nope |
| 06:20.00 | Shirik | well actually there is |
| 06:20.02 | dylanm | Guillotine: Heh. Well I prefer it to confusing things with the plural forms and saying "his or her" is just intolerable. One day when googling the author of my favorite intro analysis book I discovered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spivak_pronoun |
| 06:20.03 | Shirik | it's "if" |
| 06:20.04 | MentalPower|PC | Cidan: what do you need it for? |
| 06:20.10 | dylanm | But obviously that didn't catch on. |
| 06:20.21 | Cidan | I don't "need" it, I just like to program with a certain logic |
| 06:20.27 | Fin | i do now though, and I've had all sorts of problems, some of which I can only solve by removing the driver from the COM port in Windows and plugging a device in again |
| 06:20.32 | Fin | oh, and I have a printer now too |
| 06:20.38 | Fin | and a USB mouse! |
| 06:21.17 | Crysli | dylanm: Lol. I sounds like some messed up accent. |
| 06:21.24 | Crysli | It, even |
| 06:21.42 | MentalPower|PC | Fin: the only time my windows assigns COM port numbers to USB ports is when I have a serial-to-USB thingo plugged in |
| 06:25.37 | Guillotine | dylanm: interesting. Wonder if my prof would accept Spivak pronouns |
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| 06:30.30 | Guillotine | wow, my roommate is playing paper mario for the wii. The second boss (a giant robot snake) has the worst computer puns |
| 06:30.43 | Guillotine | most of which the average person won't understand |
| 06:30.57 | art3mis | like? |
| 06:31.47 | Guillotine | 403 hamsters missing, you may not pass |
| 06:32.03 | Keias | lol |
| 06:32.08 | Keias | that reminds me of uh |
| 06:32.10 | Keias | that one cartoon |
| 06:32.20 | Keias | grim adventures of billy and mandy |
| 06:32.32 | Keias | Supposed to be a childrens show but it has all these cthulu references and stuff |
| 06:32.33 | Keias | It's great |
| 06:32.59 | Guillotine | also, it starts going 'boot disk not found. please ensure the drive is closed' |
| 06:33.03 | Guillotine | and things like that |
| 06:33.10 | Guillotine | though the hamster one was the funniest so far imo |
| 06:35.47 | Guillotine | well, he just killed it, and it said 'system crash' and appears to have turned the entire screen blue for a moment |
| 06:35.58 | Guillotine | e.g. the sand faded to blue |
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| 06:39.21 | Guillotine | this game is great |
| 06:39.24 | Guillotine | so much meta-humor |
| 06:40.10 | art3mis | billy and mandy is an awesome cartoon |
| 06:40.32 | art3mis | Downloads: |
| 06:40.33 | art3mis | 9,785 |
| 06:40.33 | art3mis | Views: |
| 06:40.33 | art3mis | 73,744 |
| 06:40.35 | art3mis | Favorites: |
| 06:40.39 | art3mis | 9 |
| 06:40.43 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 06:40.43 | art3mis | stats for hkui |
| 06:40.51 | art3mis | W |
| 06:40.52 | art3mis | T |
| 06:40.53 | art3mis | F |
| 06:41.00 | Shirik | 73k views, 9k downloads |
| 06:41.02 | Shirik | .... |
| 06:41.03 | Shirik | .. |
| 06:41.05 | Shirik | . |
| 06:41.08 | Shirik | 9 favorites |
| 06:41.09 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:41.11 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:41.16 | art3mis | isnt that awesome |
| 06:41.31 | art3mis | 63k people looked at it went oh my fsckin lord and moved on |
| 06:41.41 | art3mis | 10k stopped and said AWESOME im gonna download that |
| 06:41.58 | Guillotine | what is sad is that there is a 'k' after that |
| 06:42.43 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:42.49 | art3mis | you're just jealous |
| 06:43.04 | Shirik | Cidan: Waking up or going to sleep? |
| 06:43.09 | art3mis | i shoudl win an award for most infamous compilation evah! |
| 06:43.10 | Cidan | going to bed soon |
| 06:43.15 | Cidan | fixing child handler |
| 06:43.21 | Cidan | SLJDKHSKJD |
| 06:43.25 | Cidan | why do you loop, WHYYY |
| 06:43.30 | Cidan | YOU MAKE NO SENSE |
| 06:45.44 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.50 | Fin | no wai! Hammertime UI is teh B3ST! |
| 06:45.51 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:46.06 | art3mis | there's only one other retarded addon that ranks higher than hkui |
| 06:46.10 | art3mis | illegal addon ;P |
| 06:46.22 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:46.23 | Fin | Critman |
| 06:46.29 | Shirik | critman? |
| 06:46.32 | Fin | Critman is still legendary IMO |
| 06:46.35 | art3mis | oh and that goggles one |
| 06:46.42 | art3mis | that blacks your screen before you die |
| 06:46.50 | Fin | DontPanic |
| 06:46.53 | Fin | that's Wob's innit |
| 06:46.54 | art3mis | yeah |
| 06:46.56 | Guillotine | art3mis: if you upload HKUI to Curs, I'll add it into the 'featured' rotation just to see what people say about it :P |
| 06:47.10 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 06:47.19 | Guillotine | it would just be you and Dock atm |
| 06:47.20 | art3mis | laugh you honestly want me to update all 3 iterations? or jsut the main one heh |
| 06:47.35 | Guillotine | *shrug* whatever you want |
| 06:47.39 | Guillotine | I just want to see the comments :P |
| 06:47.43 | art3mis | laugh |
| 06:47.54 | Shirik | Anyone know an open DNS server IP? |
| 06:47.57 | art3mis | im not even sure i have an account at curse |
| 06:48.04 | art3mis | ummm |
| 06:48.16 | art3mis | i did |
| 06:48.21 | art3mis | i cant for the life of me remember |
| 06:48.24 | art3mis | xo.com' |
| 06:48.28 | art3mis | their dns is open |
| 06:48.33 | Shirik | .... |
| 06:48.35 | Shirik | I hate you |
| 06:48.37 | Fin | que |
| 06:48.43 | Guillotine | nu? |
| 06:48.47 | art3mis | i cant remmeber the ip though |
| 06:49.15 | Fin | I can allow access to my DNS server if you like, Shirik |
| 06:49.30 | Shirik | I just need some temporary DNS while brighthouse stops being moronic |
| 06:49.33 | art3mis | 65.107.1.196 |
| 06:49.38 | art3mis | i think |
| 06:49.38 | Shirik | <3 |
| 06:49.47 | art3mis | might be 106 not 107 |
| 06:50.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Hojimachong (n=chatzill@c-71-197-210-237.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:50.24 | Guillotine | Shirik: just manually edit your hosts file! Thats what all the cool people use! |
| 06:50.30 | Guillotine | DNS is a crutch |
| 06:50.34 | Shirik | because I have the whole internet memorized? |
| 06:50.49 | Guillotine | if you were cool you would |
| 06:50.56 | Hojimachong | oy |
| 06:51.14 | art3mis | whats the command line to use a specific dns to check an nslookup again? |
| 06:51.24 | Shirik | nslookup then server <ip> |
| 06:52.05 | Guillotine | art3mis: nslookup /? |
| 06:52.27 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.36 | art3mis | stupid client doesnt have it built whats the ip |
| 06:54.08 | Fin | [mimi:pgl]:~ $ host exchange.gothi.ca |
| 06:54.08 | Fin | exchange.gothi.ca has address 75.127.205.84 |
| 06:54.10 | Fin | oops |
| 06:54.16 | Fin | 1 line too many |
| 06:54.23 | Fin | now three! |
| 06:54.50 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion diablot |
| 06:55.05 | Shirik | hm |
| 06:55.10 | Shirik | my problem might be more severe than just a DNS problem |
| 06:55.35 | Shirik | I want to reset my modem but if that doesn't work I'll be disconnected forever :( |
| 06:55.39 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Hojimachong (n=chatzill@c-71-197-210-237.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:55.44 | Shirik | netstat ftw! |
| 06:55.52 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Diablot, Level 70 Undead Warrior (10/5/46). 17504 HP; 17775 Armour; 710 AP; 157.000 Melee DPS; 12.56% melee crit; 21 melee hit; 379 defense; 23.37% dodge; 35.97% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 976 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2296cv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32svr3 ][ Updated: Tue Feb 19 02:05:08 2008 EST ]] |
| 06:57.27 | Guillotine | another bot? o.O |
| 06:57.39 | Guillotine | how do we use Lua on this one? |
| 06:58.03 | Shirik | ah oh well |
| 06:58.06 | Shirik | It was a routing problem |
| 06:58.07 | Shirik | it's back |
| 06:58.14 | Shirik | Thanks Fin / art3mis for trying ot help |
| 06:58.20 | Tem | !ap 1850 |
| 06:58.20 | WoWLuaircBot | Tem: Arena points from a rating of 1850 is, 2v2: 637, 3v3: 737, 5v5: 838 |
| 06:58.25 | Fin | any time |
| 06:59.17 | Industrial | wow lacks cities in the south on azeroth |
| 06:59.21 | Industrial | both continents |
| 06:59.34 | Industrial | darnassus -> un'goro fun? no. |
| 06:59.46 | Industrial | same with UC -> booty |
| 07:00.16 | Fin | UC -> booty bay is easy |
| 07:00.17 | Industrial | but im just spoiled and use shat anyway ;) |
| 07:00.21 | Fin | get the Zeppelin |
| 07:00.32 | Industrial | oh right horde has the zepeling to there |
| 07:00.39 | Fin | well, you did say UC :) |
| 07:00.45 | Fin | I assumed you meant Horde |
| 07:00.53 | Industrial | yeah |
| 07:01.22 | Guillotine | why is it called WoWLuaircBot, if it can't do Lua? :( |
| 07:02.08 | Fin | also, I suggest judicious use of alternate hearthstone locations! for the Horde! remember the sunwell. |
| 07:02.25 | Fin | a noob eh looray della gnarr |
| 07:02.51 | Fin | blood elf NPCs are a bit nuts |
| 07:03.05 | Fin | I'm not sure I really want my banker to be telling me that our enemies will all die and stuff |
| 07:03.11 | Wobin_ | Just be a mage |
| 07:03.22 | Wobin_ | It's great during holiday events |
| 07:03.27 | Wobin_ | just pop back to a major city every hour |
| 07:04.20 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/random/DevToolsCombatEvent.jpg |
| 07:05.19 | Fin | spiffalicious |
| 07:05.29 | Iriel | Uploaded to wowi |
| 07:06.17 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Atriace (n=omnizeta@243.9.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 07:06.31 | Fin | awesome |
| 07:08.03 | Fin | Iriel: any chance you fancy adding an option to disable Event monitoring by default, while you're in the code? :) |
| 07:08.12 | Iriel | Fin: Certainly not today 8-) |
| 07:08.26 | Fin | worth a try |
| 07:08.55 | Cidan | THANK THE LORD JESUS OUR SAVIOUR |
| 07:08.59 | Cidan | Finally |
| 07:09.14 | Antiarc | Nice, Iriel |
| 07:09.35 | Shirik | WoWI UI Manager updated for those of you that were having problems - current version is 0.2.7 |
| 07:10.12 | MentalPower|PC | !lua return "Hi" |
| 07:10.22 | Iriel | And now.. sleep time! |
| 07:10.28 | Cairenn | night Iriel |
| 07:10.30 | Fin | night! |
| 07:12.18 | Guillotine | so how many lua bots do we have in here now? o.O |
| 07:13.01 | Fin | they need a shared protocol for queries |
| 07:13.21 | Fin | at least minimal support for basic things |
| 07:13.28 | Fin | someone write an RFC |
| 07:13.55 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
| 07:14.02 | Shirik | batrick: pong |
| 07:14.03 | Guillotine | anybody know who owns WoWLuaircBot? |
| 07:14.07 | batrick | you figure out that thing yet? |
| 07:14.13 | Shirik | thing? |
| 07:14.19 | batrick | table passing between global states? |
| 07:14.23 | Shirik | Guillotine: That's ThraeBot |
| 07:14.29 | Shirik | batrick: I haven't had a chance to look at it :( |
| 07:14.30 | Guillotine | ahh |
| 07:14.33 | batrick | QQ |
| 07:14.34 | Fin | Thrae |
| 07:14.38 | Guillotine | ThraeBot was a better name :( |
| 07:14.57 | batrick | WowLuaircbot is a little long |
| 07:15.07 | Tem | !ap 1700 |
| 07:15.08 | WoWLuaircBot | Tem: Arena points from a rating of 1700 is, 2v2: 461, 3v3: 534, 5v5: 607 |
| 07:16.38 | Guillotine | anybody in only one channel and want to try changing their name to \r\n to try to break the bot? |
| 07:16.58 | Fin | the server won't let you, will it? |
| 07:17.02 | Guillotine | it does |
| 07:17.02 | \r\nShirik | !ap 1700 |
| 07:17.05 | Fin | oh, duh, 'course it will |
| 07:17.20 | \r\nQUIT | !ap 1700 |
| 07:17.24 | \r\nQUIT | hm |
| 07:17.29 | Guillotine | well, it isn't responding |
| 07:17.31 | Fin | hello I'm Fin and I'll be your retard for today |
| 07:17.41 | Guillotine | !ap 1700 |
| 07:17.41 | WoWLuaircBot | Guillotine: Arena points from a rating of 1700 is, 2v2: 461, 3v3: 534, 5v5: 607 |
| 07:17.43 | Guillotine | hehe |
| 07:17.46 | Guillotine | we may be on to something |
| 07:17.48 | Fin | try putting the \r\n at the end of the nick |
| 07:18.02 | Xinhuan | funny :D |
| 07:18.03 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Elkano (i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 07:18.04 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | !ap 1700 |
| 07:18.08 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | that is strange |
| 07:18.23 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | !ar 1500 |
| 07:18.32 | Shadowed | what are you doing this time shirik |
| 07:18.38 | batrick | lol... |
| 07:18.40 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | Who's Shirik >.> |
| 07:18.41 | Xinhuan | trying to make a bot quit |
| 07:18.42 | Guillotine | we're trying to break Thrae's bot |
| 07:18.43 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | I am not him |
| 07:18.55 | Guillotine | though really, Shirik is no better off changing names than me :P |
| 07:18.57 | Fin | what about !ar QUIT :) |
| 07:19.07 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | Guillotine: I'm just willing to do it in front of millions |
| 07:19.07 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | lol |
| 07:19.11 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | !ar quit |
| 07:19.13 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | ? |
| 07:19.15 | \r\nQUIT\r\n | what would that do |
| 07:19.22 | Xinhuan | shirik try it without the \r\n in front? |
| 07:19.22 | Fin | nothing, apparently |
| 07:19.31 | Guillotine | see, the problem is people in #wowhead and other less-technical channels wonder what the hell I'm doing |
| 07:19.37 | QUIT\r\n | !ap 1500 |
| 07:19.46 | Guillotine | no, it wouldn't work without it in front |
| 07:19.47 | batrick | --> co = coroutine.running() next(_G, "") |
| 07:19.47 | batbot | batrick: @ invalid key to 'next' |
| 07:20.08 | batrick | --> return debug.getlocal(co, 1) |
| 07:20.08 | Shirik | there's something going on there |
| 07:20.08 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " return debug.getlocal(co, 1)"]:1: bad argument #3 to 'getlocal' (number expected, got no value) |
| 07:20.20 | Shirik | oh shut it NickServ |
| 07:20.21 | batrick | --> return debug.getlocal(co, 1, 1) |
| 07:20.21 | batbot | batrick: > t, table: 0x8091b18 |
| 07:20.23 | Guillotine | it could be that he just has a check for \r\n and ignores all messages with it |
| 07:20.42 | Guillotine | though he escapes it with char names correctly |
| 07:20.53 | batrick | --> return debug.getlocal(co, 1, 2), debug.getlocal(co, 1, 3), debug.getlocal(co, 1, 4) |
| 07:20.53 | batbot | batrick: > k, arg, next, function: 0x80dae28 |
| 07:21.01 | batrick | :( |
| 07:21.12 | batrick | sigh o well |
| 07:21.17 | Fin | I wonder if \\r\\n would make a difference |
| 07:21.31 | Guillotine | --> return "\r\nQUIT Goodbye\r\n" |
| 07:21.31 | batbot | Guillotine: > \r\nQUIT Goodbye\r\n |
| 07:21.33 | Fin | probably not |
| 07:21.41 | Shirik | --> return string.byte(" "), string.quit(":") |
| 07:21.41 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " return string.byte(" "), string.quit(":")"]:1: attempt to call field 'quit' (a nil value) |
| 07:21.45 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665622037&sid=1#7 best. ever. |
| 07:21.48 | Shirik | whoops |
| 07:21.51 | batrick | that's kinda interesting tho |
| 07:21.52 | Shirik | thinking way too many things at once |
| 07:21.56 | Shirik | --> return string.byte(" "), string.byte(":") |
| 07:21.56 | batbot | Shirik: > 32, 58 |
| 07:22.01 | batrick | the vararg is still called 'arg' |
| 07:22.29 | batrick | Shirik: what you're doing won't work :P |
| 07:22.40 | Guillotine | --> return char(128) |
| 07:22.40 | batbot | Guillotine: @ [string " return char(128)"]:1: attempt to call global 'char' (a nil value) |
| 07:22.50 | \nQUIT\32\58k\n | !ap 1500 |
| 07:23.04 | Elkano | --> return string.rep(string.rep(" ", 1000), 1000) |
| 07:23.04 | Guillotine | hmm, what was the function for asciivalue->char? |
| 07:23.04 | batbot | Elkano: > ...(tldr) |
| 07:23.04 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Tu5CPVoP8 |
| 07:23.10 | \nQUIT\32\58k\n | (02:22:33) -› (calkins.freenode.net) *** Notice -- Too many nick changes; wait 11 seconds before trying again |
| 07:23.11 | Cidan | is wow down? |
| 07:23.14 | Cidan | for anyone else? |
| 07:23.17 | Elkano | tldr? lol? |
| 07:23.18 | Cidan | I can't login |
| 07:23.36 | Fin | no |
| 07:23.40 | batrick | --> co = coroutine.running() debug.getmetatable("") |
| 07:23.40 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " co = coroutine.running() debug.getmetatabl..."]:1: cannot access protected metatable |
| 07:23.50 | Cidan | What a fine time for WoW to go down here; must be gods way of saying get to bed. |
| 07:23.51 | Elkano | --> return string.rep(string.rep(" ", 10000), 10000) |
| 07:23.52 | batrick | --> debug.getlocal(co, 1, 3) |
| 07:23.54 | Cidan | oh well. |
| 07:23.56 | batbot | Elkano: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 07:23.56 | batbot | batrick: @ [string "return debug.getlocal(co, 1, 3)"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'getlocal' (number expected, got nil) |
| 07:24.06 | Cidan | OH NM THERE I GO |
| 07:24.10 | batrick | damn it |
| 07:24.12 | batrick | --> co = coroutine.running() debug.getmetatable("") |
| 07:24.12 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " co = coroutine.running() debug.getmetatabl..."]:1: cannot access protected metatable |
| 07:24.14 | batrick | --> debug.getlocal(co, 1, 3) |
| 07:24.14 | batbot | batrick: > nil |
| 07:24.16 | batrick | --> debug.getlocal(co, 1, 2) |
| 07:24.17 | batbot | batrick: > m, table: 0x811ca38 |
| 07:24.22 | batrick | --> debug.getlocal(co, 1, 1) |
| 07:24.23 | batbot | batrick: > object, |
| 07:24.26 | Shirik | object? |
| 07:24.28 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 07:24.55 | Cidan | Shirik: How can I compare against an empty array? |
| 07:25.03 | Cidan | ie if obj == {} then |
| 07:25.05 | Shirik | next(t) returns nil |
| 07:25.06 | Cidan | does not work |
| 07:25.15 | batrick | I need to return from these functions i think that should fix it |
| 07:25.15 | Shirik | --> t = {}; return next(t) |
| 07:25.15 | batbot | Shirik: > nil |
| 07:25.19 | Shirik | --> t = {1}; return next(t) |
| 07:25.19 | batbot | Shirik: > 1, 1 |
| 07:25.27 | Cidan | kk |
| 07:26.17 | batrick | --> co = coroutine.running() debug.getmetatable(_G) |
| 07:26.17 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " co = coroutine.running() debug.getmetatabl..."]:1: cannot access protected metatable |
| 07:26.29 | batrick | --> debug.getlocal(co, 1, 1) |
| 07:26.30 | batbot | batrick: > object, table: 0x812a740 |
| 07:26.33 | batrick | --> debug.getlocal(co, 1, 2) |
| 07:26.33 | batbot | batrick: > m, table: 0x80aa820 |
| 07:26.51 | batrick | --> stringm = select(2, debug.getlocal(co, 1, 2)) |
| 07:27.02 | batrick | --> for k in pairs(stringm) do print(k) end |
| 07:27.03 | batbot | batrick: __newindex __metatable __index __protected |
| 07:27.29 | batrick | --> stringm.__protected = nil setmetatable("", {}) return "":find("") |
| 07:27.29 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " stringm.__protected = nil setmetatable("", {}) return "":find(..."]:1: '<eof>' expected near ':' |
| 07:27.36 | batrick | --> stringm.__protected = nil setmetatable("", {}) return (""):find("") |
| 07:27.37 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " stringm.__protected = nil setmetatable("",..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'setmetatable' (table expected, got string) |
| 07:27.48 | batrick | hmm |
| 07:28.02 | Shirik | for k,v in pairs(stringm) do print(k,v) end |
| 07:28.07 | Shirik | --> for k,v in pairs(stringm) do print(k,v) end |
| 07:28.07 | batbot | Shirik: __newindex function: 0x80aa848 __metatable leave this alone __index table: 0x81decb0 |
| 07:28.16 | batrick | :) |
| 07:28.29 | Shirik | it now becomes a race between batrick and Shirik, who can type/think faster |
| 07:28.37 | batrick | i already know how to fix it |
| 07:28.41 | Shirik | well I'm sure |
| 07:28.46 | batrick | just sorta in a amused state |
| 07:29.02 | Shirik | amused? |
| 07:29.04 | Shirik | like drunk? |
| 07:29.07 | batrick | no |
| 07:29.32 | Fin | high |
| 07:30.07 | batrick | all you could potentially do is ruin the protections i've laid down for the global variables that's about it |
| 07:30.11 | Guillotine | can you get high on sweet and low? |
| 07:30.36 | Fin | can I get an amen! |
| 07:30.39 | Guillotine | batrick: and thus access console.exec |
| 07:30.44 | Shirik | batrick: I disagree |
| 07:35.49 | batrick | ok show me |
| 07:36.05 | MentalPower|PC | ~lart Fin |
| 07:36.05 | purl | turns Fin into a lifesized tux doll |
| 07:37.15 | Fin | can you feel it-ah? I said can you feel it-ah! halleluuuujah! |
| 07:37.25 | MentalPower|PC | ~wedgie Fin |
| 07:37.26 | purl | ACTION hangs Fin from the flag pole by his underwear |
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| 07:38.02 | batrick | --> co = coroutine.running() debug.getmetatable(_G) |
| 07:38.02 | batbot | batrick: @ [string " co = coroutine.running() debug.getmetatabl..."]:1: cannot access protected metatable |
| 07:38.10 | batrick | --> return debug.getlocal(co, 1, 1) |
| 07:38.10 | batbot | batrick: > object, table: 0x80b1820 |
| 07:38.17 | batrick | hrm :( |
| 07:38.20 | batrick | --> return debug.getlocal(co, 1, 2) |
| 07:38.20 | batbot | batrick: > m, table: 0x8092670 |
| 07:38.32 | Shirik | --> setfenv(co, {}) |
| 07:38.32 | batbot | Shirik: @ ./sandbox.lua:265: bad argument #1 to 'setfenv' (number expected, got thread) |
| 07:38.51 | Shirik | you could do this ugly wrap batrick |
| 07:39.02 | Shirik | actually no, that would just move the problem |
| 07:39.04 | batrick | does debug library access locals for tail calls? |
| 07:39.19 | Shirik | I don't know enough about the debug library sadly |
| 07:39.34 | batrick | i was pretty sure that would fix it but apparently not |
| 07:39.43 | batrick | --> return debug.getinfo(co, 1) |
| 07:39.43 | batbot | batrick: > table: 0x80d4d88 |
| 07:39.55 | batrick | --> for k,v in pairs( debug.getinfo(co, 1)) do print(k,v) end |
| 07:39.56 | batbot | batrick: source @./sandbox.lua what Lua func function: 0x8080ef8 nups 1 short_src ./sandbox.lua name getmetatable currentline 118 namewhat field linedefined 115 lastlinedefined 121 |
| 07:40.56 | Shirik | nups == 1 |
| 07:40.58 | Shirik | that's curious |
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| 07:41.06 | batrick | not really |
| 07:41.09 | Shirik | but you were pulling more |
| 07:41.12 | Elkano | /slap ZealotOnAStick |
| 07:41.27 | MentalPower|PC | ~slap ZealotOnAStick |
| 07:41.27 | purl | ACTION slaps ZealotOnAStick, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 07:41.46 | batrick | debug.setfenv(co, {}) |
| 07:41.51 | batrick | --> debug.setfenv(co, {}) |
| 07:41.51 | batbot | batrick: > thread: 0x80d0210 |
| 07:42.03 | Shirik | ah right, that's what I needed to do |
| 07:42.06 | batrick | that'd be cool if it had crashed |
| 07:42.07 | Shirik | debug.setfenv not setfenv |
| 07:43.05 | Fin | they haven't disabled alchemy procs again, have they? oh no, just a bad streak |
| 07:43.37 | batrick | well this sucks |
| 07:44.22 | Shirik | just hook the debug functions to not operate on threads? |
| 07:44.26 | Shirik | easy solution |
| 07:45.53 | Tierrie | shirik is a poopyhead! |
| 07:46.00 | batrick | that sorta kills the majority of the reason i added them |
| 07:47.18 | batrick | I think i fixed it |
| 07:47.20 | batrick | sorta wierd |
| 07:47.32 | batrick | return error(...) doesn't do the tail call right or something |
| 07:47.42 | batrick | I had to make an auxillary error function |
| 07:50.15 | Shirik | Tierrie :( |
| 07:51.23 | batrick | ok think i fixed it |
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| 07:55.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Fidel Castro announces retirement - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7252109.stm |
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| 07:59.05 | kd3 | going braaaaains hunting full-time now? |
| 08:00.15 | Cairenn | it'll be interesting to see what happens to the country when he steps down |
| 08:01.49 | Corrodias | as i recall from what my friends say, it would be nothing good, as his brother is hardly "better" |
| 08:02.04 | Corrodias | but i can claim to know little on the subject |
| 08:03.06 | MentalPower|PC | he stepped down a long time ago |
| 08:03.18 | MentalPower|PC | his brother has been running the country for more than a year now |
| 08:05.52 | art3mis | man you just got beat by an 8 year old |
| 08:07.30 | Guillotine | art3mis: you watching that too? |
| 08:07.41 | Guillotine | pretty funny episode :P |
| 08:07.44 | Guillotine | haven't seen this one before |
| 08:08.25 | Shirik | that has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever written |
| 08:08.34 | Shirik | if (<call> or nil) |
| 08:08.47 | Shirik | well, f(<call> or nil) |
| 08:09.38 | Shirik | --> function f() return; end; print((f())) |
| 08:09.38 | Keias | I love the Boondocks |
| 08:09.39 | batbot | Shirik: nil |
| 08:09.43 | Shirik | --> function f() return; end; print(f()) |
| 08:09.44 | batbot | Shirik: |
| 08:09.50 | Shirik | ah, so that's the easier way of doing it |
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| 08:11.27 | batrick | i don't really know how I'm going to fix that : / |
| 08:16.37 | Shirik | --> tonumber("85", 16) |
| 08:16.37 | batbot | Shirik: > 133 |
| 08:23.00 | Shirik | okay I'm going to go get a few hours sleep |
| 08:23.01 | Shirik | night |
| 08:23.08 | Cairenn | night Shirik |
| 08:23.20 | Shirik | fasd/nick Shirik |
| 08:23.23 | Shirik | hm |
| 08:23.34 | Shirik | wow |
| 08:23.37 | Shirik | I'm really tired |
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| 08:34.42 | Kalroth | hooray, it's batbot |
| 08:35.32 | MentalPower|PC | night all |
| 08:35.50 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 08:37.23 | Kalroth | You're still up, Cairenn! |
| 08:37.31 | Cairenn | yes I am |
| 08:37.38 | Shirik|zZz | meh |
| 08:37.42 | Shirik|zZz | she's always awake |
| 08:37.48 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:37.58 | Cairenn | Shirik|zZz: you're a fine one to talk |
| 08:38.06 | Shirik|zZz | I don't know what you're talking about |
| 08:38.09 | Cairenn | you "signed off" 15 mins ago |
| 08:38.09 | Kalroth | Really? Can't be true, I only talk dirty to her when she's asleep |
| 08:38.10 | Shirik|zZz | I'm always asleep |
| 08:39.53 | Kalroth | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23229795/ |
| 08:40.24 | Shirik|zZz | centuries behind |
| 08:40.29 | Shirik|zZz | <3 |
| 08:40.39 | Kalroth | :( |
| 08:40.45 | Kalroth | Shirik|zZz: Go to bed@"#? |
| 08:40.46 | Shirik|zZz | I'm going to sleep for reals now |
| 08:41.00 | Kalroth | Then I promise I'll talk dirty to you while you're asleep. |
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| 08:41.16 | Shirik|zZz | o.o |
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| 08:47.24 | Guillotine | night all |
| 08:48.02 | Cairenn | night Guillotine |
| 08:48.07 | Shirik|zZz | night Guillotine |
| 08:48.10 | batrick | night |
| 08:48.18 | Guillotine | Shirik: you're supposed to be zZzing |
| 08:48.23 | Guillotine | night Cairenn and batrick :) |
| 08:48.26 | Shirik|zZz | breaking batbot is more important |
| 08:48.29 | Guillotine | lol |
| 08:48.33 | Guillotine | good luck :P |
| 08:48.35 | Guillotine | night Shirik |
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| 08:48.39 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 08:56.21 | Cairenn | night guys |
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| 09:34.19 | Keias | anyone know what mod shows your chat tabs constantly? |
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| 09:42.29 | xlvii | Keias, Fane does, if I remember correctly. |
| 09:43.20 | Keias | that was it, thanks :D |
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| 09:59.11 | Wobin_ | How does one apply masks to textures? |
| 10:15.28 | Tem | Wobin, generally, you just do it in your editing program |
| 10:22.43 | bleeter | so.. has.. erm.. anyone.. erm.. heard WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZ ARE DOING TONIGHT ABOUT RESTARTS OR MAINT??!!! |
| 10:23.07 | bleeter | 'coz the way I'm seeing things, there's not even going to be a restart |
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| 10:27.41 | Rayne | ugh' |
| 10:27.59 | Rayne | Anyone got a really large, blunt object? I need to sleep. |
| 10:38.08 | Keias | Yes |
| 10:38.18 | Keias | are you inside a room? |
| 10:39.36 | Rayne | Yes |
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| 11:09.55 | Keias | Then you have 4 walls to smack your head into :D |
| 11:09.58 | Keias | (all late) |
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| 11:44.20 | Wobin | bleeter: No maint |
| 11:44.25 | Wobin | due to US holiday |
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| 12:12.51 | nevcairiel | is there any tool to parse and browse 2.4 CombatLogs yet? |
| 12:13.25 | Elkano | browse? texteditor? ;) |
| 12:15.29 | nevcairiel | searchable with filters and all would be nice :P |
| 12:16.00 | Elkano | grep? regex and such ;) |
| 12:16.01 | nevcairiel | so i can say like "show all events of SPELL_DAMAGE with spellId xxxx" |
| 12:16.28 | nevcairiel | write a GUI for that where i dont need to write the regex myself :P |
| 12:18.25 | nevcairiel | someone here had a script to parse a log into a DB no? that would be handy too |
| 12:18.44 | Elkano | I havend even logged in to a 2.4 realm yet so.... no |
| 12:19.06 | Maldivia | hmm, would be rather trivial to write such a gui :) |
| 12:22.29 | nevcairiel | i guess i'll replicate a script to parse it into a DB and use sql to query it =P |
| 12:27.42 | Maldivia | yeah, also very easy :) |
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| 12:31.07 | Cide | nevcairiel: can you send me a sample combat log? |
| 12:33.50 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 12:35.52 | nevcairiel | at least they compress very well =) |
| 12:36.25 | nevcairiel | Cide: http://nevcairiel.net/logs/WoWCombatLog-20080218.rar |
| 12:38.56 | Cide | cool, thanks |
| 12:39.21 | nevcairiel | 3 hours of trash and kalecgos trys :P |
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| 12:42.12 | Maldivia | hmm... are there any mobs with a comma in their name? |
| 12:42.24 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 12:42.36 | Maldivia | and how will that influence the combat log output |
| 12:42.36 | nevcairiel | that would probably break the format, yeah |
| 12:42.48 | Maldivia | or spells for that matter |
| 12:43.12 | nevcairiel | dont think there are commas |
| 12:44.18 | Maldivia | a lot of spells have comma, but doubt any of them are spells that will ever appear in combat log |
| 12:44.35 | nevcairiel | which spells? |
| 12:45.09 | Maldivia | mostly effect spells and triggers |
| 12:45.39 | Cide | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15491 |
| 12:46.04 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 12:46.44 | nevcairiel | any easy-to-access and test mob ? :P |
| 12:47.00 | Cide | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18535 |
| 12:47.12 | nevcairiel | thats better |
| 12:47.22 | Cide | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21293 |
| 12:48.42 | foxlit | Can I somehow dictate wich corner of the frame is kept in position when it is resized? |
| 12:48.49 | foxlit | s/wic/whic/ |
| 12:49.07 | nevcairiel | shouldnt the anchor do that? |
| 12:49.17 | foxlit | User-movable frame |
| 12:49.30 | nevcairiel | re-anchor it after movement |
| 12:49.42 | foxlit | It's secure |
| 12:49.45 | foxlit | *protected |
| 12:49.47 | Cide | then you're fucked |
| 12:49.55 | Cide | how're you scaling it anyway? |
| 12:50.00 | foxlit | Stateheaders |
| 12:50.00 | Cide | you can't :SetScale in combat |
| 12:50.02 | Cide | ah |
| 12:50.09 | foxlit | (:SetHeight, anyhow) |
| 12:50.32 | nevcairiel | 2/19 13:49:35.078 SWING_DAMAGE,0xF1300048670004DA,Demos, Overseer of Hate,0x10a48,0x0000000000988130,Nevcairiel,0x511,1293,1,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil |
| 12:50.37 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: ^^ |
| 12:50.44 | Maldivia | *gruble* |
| 12:50.47 | foxlit | Region:SetPoint("point","relativeFrame" or relativeObject,"relativePoint"[, xOfs, yOfs]) - Set an attachment point of this object - Updated in 1.10. Since 2.2 cooordinates are now relative to the closest anchor point |
| 12:51.06 | foxlit | That last part is odd |
| 12:51.59 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: will be a hell for combat log parsing, if we have to make special case checks for that |
| 12:52.12 | Maldivia | well, not hell, but very annoying |
| 12:52.55 | Cide | just have to search until you get ',0x' |
| 12:52.57 | Maldivia | since we can always split like ,[name],0x[flags] |
| 12:53.00 | Cide | but hacky |
| 12:53.23 | clad|office | foxlit: the text is odd, but the change was a good one :P |
| 12:53.35 | foxlit | I can't find it in the 2.2 topic either |
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| 12:54.19 | foxlit | Unless it's "* Frame positions are saved relative to the nearest corner rather than the upper left corner, so that they don't move when changing resolution and screen aspect ratio. ", in which case the wiki text could use a slight rewording |
| 12:54.20 | clad|office | i think what it's referring to, is user placed frames are now relative to the corner of the UI that they are closest to |
| 12:54.31 | clad|office | yes, the wiki is horribly wrnog and shouldn't have that there :P |
| 12:54.35 | clad|office | that's all it would be referring to |
| 13:00.07 | nevcairiel | lua> string.match("2/19 13:49:35.078 SWING_DAMAGE,0xF1300048670004DA,Demos, Overseer of Hate,0x10a48,0x0000000000988130,Nevcairiel,0x511,1293,1,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil", "(%d+/%d+ %d+:%d+:%d+.%d+) ([%w_]+),(%x+),(.-),(%x+),(%x+),(.-),(%x+),(.*)) |
| 13:00.08 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 13:00.12 | nevcairiel | lua> string.match("2/19 13:49:35.078 SWING_DAMAGE,0xF1300048670004DA,Demos, Overseer of Hate,0x10a48,0x0000000000988130,Nevcairiel,0x511,1293,1,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil", "(%d+/%d+ %d+:%d+:%d+.%d+) ([%w_]+),(%x+),(.-),(%x+),(%x+),(.-),(%x+),(.*)") |
| 13:00.13 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nil |
| 13:00.16 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 13:01.57 | Cide | easier: |
| 13:03.41 | nevcairiel | lua> string.match("2/19 13:49:35.078 SWING_DAMAGE,0xF1300048670004DA,Demos, Overseer of Hate,0x10a48,0x0000000000988130,Nevcairiel,0x511,1293,1,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil", "(%d+/%d+ %d+:%d+:%d+.%d+) ([%w_]+),(0x%x+),(.-),(0x%x+),(0x%x+),(.-),(0x%x+)") |
| 13:03.41 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 2/19 13:49:35.078, SWING_DAMAGE, 0xF1300048670004DA, Demos, Overseer of Hate, 0x10a48, 0x0000000000988130, Nevcairiel, 0x511 |
| 13:03.59 | Cide | lua> string.match("2/19 13:49:35.078 SWING_DAMAGE,0xF1300048670004DA,Demos, Overseer of Hate,0x10a48,0x0000000000988130,Nevcairiel,0x511,1293,1,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil,nil", "([%d./: ]+) ([%w_]+),(0x%x+),(.-),(0x%x+),(0x%x+),(.-),(0x%x+)") |
| 13:03.59 | lua_bot | Cide: 2/19 13:49:35.078, SWING_DAMAGE, 0xF1300048670004DA, Demos, Overseer of Hate, 0x10a48, 0x0000000000988130, Nevcairiel, 0x511 |
| 13:04.16 | nevcairiel | meh you only collapsed my date tag :D |
| 13:04.25 | Cide | yeah :P |
| 13:04.28 | clad|office | hehe |
| 13:04.53 | nevcairiel | anyway, with a non-greedy search for the names |
| 13:04.57 | nevcairiel | it should work pretty good |
| 13:05.20 | Maldivia | yeah, but no easy str.split(",") :| |
| 13:05.35 | nevcairiel | true |
| 13:05.37 | Cide | why are you doing combat log parsing in lua anyway? get a real regexp engine :P |
| 13:05.46 | nevcairiel | that was just testing =P |
| 13:06.01 | nevcairiel | probably writing a small php script to parse it directly into mysql |
| 13:06.03 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 13:06.54 | nevcairiel | unless i figure out how did that already and can bug him into sharing =) |
| 13:07.08 | Cide | nevcairiel: uhh |
| 13:07.11 | Cide | that combat log was huge |
| 13:08.44 | Cide | while printing every line, it takes python like 5 seconds to print every second of combat log data |
| 13:09.06 | Cide | oh |
| 13:09.14 | Cide | nevermind, that was minutes :P |
| 13:09.19 | Cide | ~5 sec for every minute |
| 13:09.24 | nevcairiel | 23mb .. like i said, 3hours =P |
| 13:09.31 | Cide | that's interesting |
| 13:09.36 | Cide | I downloaded it from you in seconds |
| 13:09.43 | nevcairiel | it compresses pretty good |
| 13:09.47 | nevcairiel | 1.3mb rar'ed |
| 13:09.55 | Cide | oh |
| 13:10.00 | Cide | yeah.. I just noticed |
| 13:10.15 | Cide | Average speed: 311059.91 KB/s |
| 13:10.16 | Cide | yeah... |
| 13:10.21 | Cide | I think firefox got that one wrong |
| 13:10.54 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:16.44 | Cide | hmm |
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| 13:16.59 | Cide | didn't slouken say that the GUIDs aren't always present? |
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| 13:26.15 | foxlit | How odd |
| 13:26.52 | foxlit | A semi-transparent image has dramatically different colors when positioned over an edge section of the backdrop compared to over the background section of the backdrop |
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| 13:29.52 | Maldivia | foxlit: isn't it just the blending ? |
| 13:30.27 | Cide | oh god |
| 13:30.28 | foxlit | Possibly - but it's the same texture, which means backdrop/edge blending is different |
| 13:30.50 | Maldivia | using the same texture as edge and background? |
| 13:30.58 | foxlit | No |
| 13:31.02 | Cide | hey, has anyone looked into the combat log data more? |
| 13:31.07 | Cide | i.e. event-specific arguments |
| 13:31.23 | [Liquidor] | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nrRCR0iOMr0 |
| 13:32.03 | Maldivia | cide: anything in particular you're refering to? |
| 13:32.03 | foxlit | Maldivia: but the textures should be equivalent - bordering regions terminate in pure white |
| 13:32.12 | Cide | Maldivia: um |
| 13:32.18 | Cide | I'm gonna try to parse it |
| 13:32.26 | Cide | and make a python program |
| 13:32.46 | Cide | but I don't have time to figure out every event's arguments |
| 13:32.49 | Maldivia | think all the extra arguments are all worked out, if thats the ones you're refering to |
| 13:32.55 | Cide | ya |
| 13:33.11 | Cide | I parsed a bunch of them a while ago but I haven't confirmed them at all |
| 13:33.23 | Kalroth | http://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200802/error'd/in30days.jpg :D |
| 13:34.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:35.03 | Maldivia | Cide: well, I just assumed the data in the blizzard code was correct and generated this: http://wowi.pastey.net/81984 |
| 13:35.25 | Cide | yeah, but some don't make sense |
| 13:35.30 | Cide | I generated this |
| 13:35.38 | Cide | http://wowi.pastey.net/82617 |
| 13:36.00 | Cide | but SPELL_DURABILITY_DAMAGE has a spellId and spellName? |
| 13:36.21 | Cide | same with INSTAKILL and what about the school for SPELL_EXTRA_ATTACKS? it's not used in the code iirc |
| 13:36.33 | Cide | but might still be valid |
| 13:37.07 | Maldivia | durability damage... could be for instace for that reactive force shield thing, can't remeber it's exact name |
| 13:37.18 | Maldivia | that looses durability when it procs |
| 13:37.53 | wereHamster | INSTAKILL? do GMs get a special event? |
| 13:38.38 | Maldivia | wereHamster: could also be from items like the potion used in the Linken quest line |
| 13:40.14 | Maldivia | wereHamster: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=14050 <-- Effect: Instakill |
| 13:41.42 | Cide | Value: 1 |
| 13:41.51 | Cide | if Value=2, do you die two times over? |
| 13:42.02 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 13:44.05 | Maldivia | apparently value ==1 means it's the caster that dies |
| 13:44.13 | Cide | how can you tell? |
| 13:44.23 | Wobin | Anyone able to help with SetTexCoord? |
| 13:44.33 | Cide | Wobin: ugh. 4 or 8? |
| 13:44.38 | Wobin | 8 =\ |
| 13:44.39 | Maldivia | nevermind, was reading it wrong :) |
| 13:44.42 | Wobin | I want to rotate =\ |
| 13:44.48 | foxlit | Wobin: sure :) |
| 13:44.51 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 13:45.00 | Wobin | I'm looking at the function in wowwiki |
| 13:45.01 | Maldivia | cide: was just comparing to the other spells with instakill :) |
| 13:45.19 | Cide | Maldivia: ah |
| 13:45.20 | Wobin | but I'm wondering if I'm not understanding the concept correctly |
| 13:45.48 | Wobin | foxlit: When you rotate the texture, what point does it rotate around? |
| 13:45.56 | Cide | bottom left |
| 13:46.02 | Cide | iirc |
| 13:46.04 | foxlit | It's not really that :) |
| 13:46.22 | Cide | hmm? |
| 13:46.35 | Wobin | and it rotates in a counterclockwise direction? |
| 13:46.39 | Cide | yes |
| 13:46.48 | foxlit | http://www.spirit-dreams.org/box/TCD.zip |
| 13:46.50 | foxlit | Play around with that :) |
| 13:47.22 | Cide | foxlit: it doesn't rotate around the bottom left? |
| 13:47.48 | foxlit | :SetTexCoord()? |
| 13:48.13 | Cide | yes |
| 13:48.22 | Cide | it should rotate around the origin, which is the bottom left corner afaik |
| 13:48.32 | Cide | so you need to translate it, rotate and translate back |
| 13:49.06 | Wobin | Ah, so you -can- rotate it out of the frame |
| 13:49.15 | Wobin | or the set tex coord viewport |
| 13:49.21 | Maldivia | hmm, I remember I made an addon once, that rotated a texture around the minimap (a circular texture :) |
| 13:49.31 | Cide | Wobin: sure |
| 13:49.39 | Wobin | Well that sucks =P |
| 13:49.46 | Cide | why? |
| 13:49.53 | Wobin | Cause I don't understand matrix math at all in order to modify what I have to work =) |
| 13:50.04 | Wobin | k, basically I have a gradient bar |
| 13:50.05 | foxlit | Anyway, designate four points, and it transforms the area between them into a rectangle |
| 13:50.17 | Cide | Wobin: it's fairly simple |
| 13:51.10 | Wobin | k how bout I outline what I need |
| 13:51.30 | Maldivia | why not just use the example code from the SetTexCoord page, there's a nice method to use, and an example on how to rotate at an arbritary angle |
| 13:51.41 | Cide | aye |
| 13:51.42 | Wobin | Maldivia: It doesn't seem to work completely for me |
| 13:51.44 | foxlit | Did someone end up fixing it? |
| 13:51.50 | Cide | it works fine for me |
| 13:51.52 | foxlit | Because it was broken quite a while back |
| 13:51.52 | Cide | I just tested it |
| 13:51.56 | Cide | foxlit: I fixed it |
| 13:52.01 | Wobin | ie, trying to rotate 90 doesn't rotate it at all |
| 13:52.08 | Wobin | however, rotating 270 works fine |
| 13:52.34 | foxlit | Wobin: nice angles are nice |
| 13:52.36 | Wobin | or rather, rotating by 90 -does- do something, but I can't see the gradient after that |
| 13:53.15 | Wobin | So I'm missing something here =\ |
| 13:53.41 | Maldivia | make sure youre textuer has a transparent border whne trying to rotate, otherwise it can look really spooky :) |
| 13:54.07 | Maldivia | (or did they fix/change that?) |
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| 13:56.39 | Cide | funny side effect |
| 13:56.42 | Cide | I rotate a texture |
| 13:56.45 | Wobin | hokay |
| 13:56.46 | Cide | and it rotates 90 degrees |
| 13:56.49 | Cide | but turns into another icon? |
| 13:56.50 | Wobin | ~imagehosting |
| 13:56.51 | purl | well, imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire |
| 13:57.07 | foxlit | Cide: magic! |
| 13:57.21 | Cide | how does that even work |
| 13:57.23 | Wobin | this is when I rotate by 270 degrees |
| 13:57.24 | Wobin | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/553720046b512d0134b1825ee66a353f.png |
| 13:57.33 | Cide | show me your code |
| 13:57.43 | Wobin | and this by 90 http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ea48f01ad82fccf7b793e8fa751379da.png |
| 13:57.51 | Wobin | It's a direct copy from the wowwiki |
| 13:58.44 | Wobin | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f5615967ee24f38472971d30b733548a.tga |
| 13:58.47 | Wobin | is the texture used |
| 13:59.05 | Cide | are those the same textures? |
| 13:59.12 | Cide | the orders switched |
| 13:59.21 | Wobin | same textures |
| 13:59.26 | Cide | 270 is blue - pink, 90 is pink - blue |
| 13:59.37 | Wobin | attachments reattached differently |
| 13:59.40 | Cide | (which makes sense if they are the same texture... are they?) |
| 13:59.41 | Wobin | it's three bars |
| 14:00.03 | Wobin | sorry, xp bar, rep bar and shadow bar |
| 14:00.03 | Cide | well it's harder to tell if you change stuff :P |
| 14:00.12 | Wobin | I'll drop it to one bar =P |
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| 14:02.19 | Wobin | left: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e1d6fbe76c62d1e6aa56bc15a323b954.png |
| 14:02.22 | Wobin | right: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a2dc0145760d7054d3b95deb35669137.png |
| 14:02.33 | Wobin | or rather, 270, and 90 respectivelty |
| 14:02.56 | foxlit | Where's that wiki code? |
| 14:03.03 | Maldivia | OK... there's a bug on PTR... |
| 14:03.03 | foxlit | It's faulting on vertical coordinates |
| 14:03.11 | Wobin | http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations |
| 14:03.55 | foxlit | Wobin: got devtools? |
| 14:03.59 | Maldivia | I'm calling SetTexCoord(8params) on ptr... and the texture changes to something else! |
| 14:04.07 | Cide | Maldivia: nah |
| 14:04.12 | Wobin | foxlit: can get loaded |
| 14:04.13 | Maldivia | Cide: It does! |
| 14:04.15 | Wobin | what do you need? |
| 14:04.16 | Cide | it does for me too |
| 14:04.24 | Cide | on live |
| 14:04.34 | foxlit | Works fine for me on live |
| 14:04.36 | Cide | but what are you calling it with? |
| 14:04.53 | foxlit | Wobin: I could've wanted GetTexCoord, but that doesn't appear to exist. I'll just go run the wiki code to see the results in a bit |
| 14:05.01 | Wobin | <3 |
| 14:05.29 | Maldivia | Cide: the texture changs for you on live? |
| 14:05.35 | Cide | yes |
| 14:05.39 | Cide | if you rotate it by 90 degrees |
| 14:05.43 | Cide | well, some spell icons do |
| 14:05.44 | Cide | not all |
| 14:05.51 | Maldivia | noticed the exact same :) |
| 14:05.51 | Cide | rotating by 180 degrees always works |
| 14:05.59 | Maldivia | 180 = same icon, 270 = new icon :) |
| 14:07.06 | Cide | I don't think the textures store multiple icons... |
| 14:07.09 | Cide | so maybe there's a rendering bug |
| 14:07.10 | foxlit | rotate 90 does (1, -1, 0,-1, -1,-1, 0,-1) |
| 14:07.24 | Cide | what? |
| 14:07.33 | Cide | cos(90), sin(90), 1, -sin(90), cos(90), 1) |
| 14:07.36 | Cide | is what it should do |
| 14:07.41 | Cide | which is 0, 1, 1, -1, 0, 1 |
| 14:08.00 | foxlit | Check what it calls SetTexCoords with |
| 14:08.07 | Cide | oh |
| 14:08.12 | Cide | I was thinking the params to setCoords |
| 14:08.20 | Cide | I don't know about the :SetTexCoord call |
| 14:08.36 | Cide | do the math from iriel's explanation above and figure out what it should be |
| 14:08.39 | Cide | but I think it works |
| 14:09.11 | foxlit | actually, no, I'm wrong |
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| 14:09.19 | foxlit | rotate 90 does (1, -1, 0,-1, 1,-1, 0,-1) |
| 14:09.33 | foxlit | Which means it puts LL and LR on the same point, and UL and UR on the same point |
| 14:09.36 | Cide | ccw? |
| 14:09.38 | foxlit | Which is why your gradient does not show up |
| 14:10.24 | Wobin | 01:07:08 Xparky: 1 -1 -6.1232339957368e-017 -1 1 -1.1102230246252e-016 4.9789962505148e-017 -1.1102230246252e-016 |
| 14:10.47 | Wobin | is actually what setCoords is returning on math.rad(90) |
| 14:10.51 | Wobin | O.O |
| 14:11.11 | Cide | which is 1, -1, 0, -1, 1, 0, 0, 0 |
| 14:12.25 | Maldivia | well, for 0 degrees setCoords is returning -1,-1,-1,0,0,-1,0,0 when it should be 0,0,0,1,1,0,1,1 |
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| 14:16.38 | foxlit | Texture changes because the rectangle is outside the texture's domain? |
| 14:17.36 | Cide | oh |
| 14:17.40 | Cide | hmm |
| 14:18.13 | Xinhuan | Maldivia: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10684.0 |
| 14:18.23 | Maldivia | because it's rotating around the bottom left, and not around center |
| 14:18.34 | Maldivia | causing other textures from memory to appear |
| 14:18.57 | Wobin | any way to modify the function on the wiki to truly rotate around centre? |
| 14:19.00 | foxlit | Other textures, or extensions of the same texture's border? |
| 14:19.06 | Maldivia | other textures |
| 14:19.16 | Wobin | In this case, extensions of the same texture perhaps |
| 14:19.22 | Xinhuan | wobin: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10684.0 |
| 14:19.30 | Xinhuan | you'll have to figure out the math yourself though |
| 14:19.37 | Cide | Wobin: no |
| 14:19.40 | Xinhuan | the wowwiki math description is terrible |
| 14:20.01 | Cide | no it isn't |
| 14:20.08 | Xinhuan | the first step is understanding how settexcoord works |
| 14:20.08 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 14:20.10 | Cide | you're doing trivial stuff in that post |
| 14:20.19 | sag_ich_nicht | I JUST MET THE IDIOT OF THE YEAR |
| 14:20.25 | Cide | your 'explanation' is for the 4 parameter version |
| 14:20.26 | Maldivia | Wobin: yes, it's possible to update the function to move center, give me a few nmins |
| 14:20.26 | Xinhuan | yes, but once you know how it works, you can derive the maths |
| 14:20.27 | Wobin | sag_ich_nicht: Look in a mirror? |
| 14:20.40 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 14:20.46 | Cide | your 8 parameter version only gives the hardcoded values for a 90 degree rotation |
| 14:20.50 | Wobin | Cide: well, my requirements are somewhat trivial =) |
| 14:20.53 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:20.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no, but i just met someone who claimed that a GBA emulator burned down a laptop |
| 14:21.00 | Xinhuan | but the example is that - an example |
| 14:21.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean sure |
| 14:21.06 | foxlit | Wobin: draw a square on a piece of paper |
| 14:21.09 | Cide | Xinhuan: but it doesn't TEACH you anything |
| 14:21.10 | foxlit | Label corner coordinates |
| 14:21.12 | sag_ich_nicht | THAT'S COMPLETELY LOGICAL |
| 14:21.31 | Xinhuan | once you know how it works, you can then work out how to derive the maths for an arbiturary function with a given input to rotate N degrees |
| 14:21.42 | Xinhuan | its obvious that the one on wowwiki doesn't work |
| 14:21.43 | foxlit | Move corner labels by 90 degrees in your desired direction |
| 14:21.44 | Cide | Xinhuan: but reading your post doesn't tell you how it works AT ALL |
| 14:21.58 | Cide | Xinhuan: it's technically oriented. if you don't get it, it's not for you. |
| 14:21.58 | Xinhuan | it does because if you want to rotate a graphic 45 degrees |
| 14:22.02 | foxlit | Read off the new coordinates for the labeled corners |
| 14:22.12 | Xinhuan | then you want to get new "new coords" for the corners |
| 14:22.16 | foxlit | pass them to SetTexCoord and you're done :) |
| 14:22.17 | Xinhuan | and do the maths backwards |
| 14:22.26 | Cide | Xinhuan: no shit. and where's that in your post? |
| 14:22.35 | Cide | and what are the coordinates for the corners? |
| 14:22.36 | Xinhuan | the post doesn't explain the math dude |
| 14:22.43 | Cide | oh, really? I couldn't tell |
| 14:22.49 | Wobin | hey hey! |
| 14:22.51 | Cide | frankly, your post doesn't explain shit |
| 14:22.52 | Xinhuan | it explains how the command works, not how to derive the maths |
| 14:23.03 | Wobin | can we cut down a bit on the vitriol? =\ |
| 14:23.11 | Cide | no |
| 14:23.14 | Wobin | oh. |
| 14:23.24 | Wobin | well fine then |
| 14:23.26 | Wobin | vitriol away |
| 14:23.55 | sag_ich_nicht | oh god this guy will be so epic to troll |
| 14:24.02 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking moron |
| 14:24.15 | Xinhuan | if you know the "coords you want to get", you can derive the maths to transform to it (which, you should know, its a translation -> rotation -> translation) |
| 14:24.20 | Xinhuan | i don't have to explain this right? |
| 14:24.31 | Cide | Xinhuan: I already said that, dumbnuts |
| 14:24.50 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 "i never took calculus" |
| 14:24.56 | Cide | <Cide> so you need to translate it, rotate and translate back |
| 14:25.14 | Xinhuan | so now, did i do anything to irritate you? |
| 14:25.19 | Xinhuan | all i did was try to help wobin |
| 14:25.27 | Josh_Borke | ~lart xinhuan |
| 14:25.27 | purl | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, xinhuan!" and lops off xinhuan's head |
| 14:25.28 | Cide | <Xinhuan> the wowwiki math description is terrible |
| 14:25.38 | Cide | and no, I didn't write the description, if that's what you're thinking |
| 14:25.43 | Cide | but it's not a bad description |
| 14:25.54 | Xinhuan | the sample code is bad because it doesn't do translation |
| 14:26.03 | Xinhuan | hence it works, but not in the manner you expect it to |
| 14:26.10 | Cide | right |
| 14:26.14 | nevcairiel | either way, wowwiki shouldnt be there to teach you the math, l2math before you try to write code |
| 14:26.32 | nevcairiel | understanding > copy/paste :P |
| 14:26.34 | Cide | Xinhuan: but nowhere was it stated that it's a rotation around the center :P |
| 14:26.57 | Wobin | aha |
| 14:27.02 | Xinhuan | meh, what good is it to rotate an image if it isn't around the center :D |
| 14:27.06 | Cide | but what I don't get is why a 180 degree rotation works |
| 14:27.30 | Cide | because, well, if you rotate it around the origin (which is a corner, bottom left or top left?), it should end up outside the image completely |
| 14:27.44 | nevcairiel | cant you adjust for that? |
| 14:27.49 | Cide | yes, with translation |
| 14:27.56 | Xinhuan | that has probably to do with how wow stored images |
| 14:28.00 | Xinhuan | we probably won't find out |
| 14:28.07 | Wobin | but the function in wowwiki doesn't take that into account, does it |
| 14:28.12 | Cide | Wobin: yes it does |
| 14:28.22 | Cide | you just have to figure out the matrix before you insert the values |
| 14:28.28 | Cide | the *example* doesn't take it into account |
| 14:28.32 | foxlit | erm |
| 14:28.38 | foxlit | It works because the coordinates are inside the domain |
| 14:28.59 | Cide | but it's not really defined behavior, is it? |
| 14:29.04 | foxlit | No, it's fine |
| 14:29.30 | foxlit | UL: 1,1 LL: 1,0 UR: 0, 1 LR: 0, 0 |
| 14:29.38 | foxlit | It's essentially equivalent to flipping the image |
| 14:29.48 | Xinhuan | ok, maybe when i said "the wowwiki math description is terrible", i really meant to say "the wowwiki code example is terrible" |
| 14:29.54 | Xinhuan | would that make you happier? ^^ |
| 14:29.58 | Cide | sure |
| 14:30.12 | Wobin | hang on. |
| 14:30.16 | Wobin | 0,0 is where? |
| 14:30.21 | Wobin | bottom left? |
| 14:30.27 | Xinhuan | 0,0 is top left |
| 14:30.30 | Cide | foxlit: but an image with the origin in the corner rotated 180 degrees should end up outside of [0, 1]? |
| 14:30.36 | Wobin | wowwiki has it bottom left =\ |
| 14:30.49 | Cide | screen coordinates are 0, 0 |
| 14:30.50 | Xinhuan | that's because a frame reference has (0,0) in the bottom left |
| 14:30.51 | foxlit | I'm not commenting on the validness of that trigonometry |
| 14:30.52 | Cide | err |
| 14:30.54 | Xinhuan | from a image reference, it is top left |
| 14:30.59 | Cide | screen coordinates are 0,0 = BL |
| 14:31.07 | foxlit | Just that the results it generates should result in that image when passed to SetTexCoord |
| 14:31.18 | Xinhuan | hence you need to convert between the 2, from image -> frame coords |
| 14:31.44 | Xinhuan | which is why the example code is "backwards" |
| 14:31.50 | foxlit | Transform coordinates might be 0,0 UL |
| 14:32.00 | Xinhuan | it rotated "the other way" |
| 14:32.02 | Cide | they are |
| 14:32.11 | foxlit | The corners are (0,0) for the top left, (1,0) for the top right, (0,1) for the bottom left, and (1,1) for the bottom right. Notice that the image origin is in a different corner from the screen origin. |
| 14:32.44 | Wobin | aha yes |
| 14:32.56 | Wobin | I didn't read far enough down |
| 14:35.35 | Elkano | simple uv coordinates, isn't it? |
| 14:35.44 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 14:35.54 | Xinhuan | you just have to flip the y coord |
| 14:37.26 | Bela|work | people always have trouble grasping the coordinate system |
| 14:40.12 | Xinhuan | which is why i always felt explaining how the :SetTexCoord() works is easier, since you can then think of how to transform the coords yourself |
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| 14:46.55 | Maldivia | Wobin: did you find a way to rotate then? |
| 14:51.02 | Wobin | ^^ |
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| 14:51.31 | Maldivia | was that a yes or no ?:) |
| 14:51.45 | Wobin | It was a yes indeed |
| 14:53.15 | Maldivia | ok, otherwise I'm posting a non-matrix, simple "rotate around center" method on the wiki now :) |
| 14:53.24 | Wobin | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6db2e2cf0a896f246157b2e946f4ada8.png |
| 14:53.36 | Wobin | Now I just have to figure out how to attach the sparks properly |
| 14:53.58 | Wobin | Thank you all for your help =) |
| 14:54.31 | Wobin | Foxlit's and Xinhuan's "take the corner coordinates and run" method did it for me |
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| 14:55.21 | foxlit | It works for multiples of 90; everything else gets tricky :) |
| 14:55.30 | Xinhuan | /chuckle |
| 14:55.31 | Wobin | hehe =) |
| 14:55.52 | Wobin | I was going to look into possibly doing that roguemeter addon |
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| 14:56.05 | Wobin | but the amount of rotational movement would probably have driven me insane |
| 14:56.34 | Josh_Borke | o.O is that xparky? |
| 14:56.43 | Wobin | yes |
| 14:56.52 | Wobin | somewhat toned down |
| 14:57.00 | Josh_Borke | that's fugly :-P |
| 14:57.02 | Wobin | cause the sparks are incorrectly connected when on the side |
| 14:57.12 | Wobin | well duh |
| 14:57.24 | Kalroth | I think it's pretty! |
| 14:57.38 | Wobin | I had to go for contrasting colours when testing =) |
| 14:58.21 | Xinhuan | i need more people to put up dire maul Librams on the ah ;p |
| 14:58.23 | Josh_Borke | excuses excuses |
| 14:58.25 | Xinhuan | so i can reach exalted |
| 14:59.29 | nevcairiel | thats probably the stupidest faction to get exalted with .. it gets you .. NOTHING :P |
| 14:59.48 | Xinhuan | well, i'm exalted with just about everything else that is possible to get exalted with |
| 15:00.01 | Xinhuan | except steamwheedle cartel |
| 15:00.24 | Xinhuan | i didn't attempt darkmoon faire (near impossible), ravenholdt |
| 15:00.45 | Xinhuan | and impossible to be exalted with either centaur faction or aldor/scryer at the same time |
| 15:01.29 | Xinhuan | the rest is exalted, so from my view point, dire maul is the next easiest, then steamwheedle! |
| 15:01.33 | Maldivia | Wobin: anyway, added a simple rotation example to the wiki :) |
| 15:02.16 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: steamwheedle shouldn't be that hard should it? just do the quests in feralas? |
| 15:02.22 | Xinhuan | for the most part, most people are only interested in rotating an image 90/180/270 degrees, so the wiki should just provide hard numbers for it |
| 15:02.30 | Xinhuan | Josh_Borke, at lvl 70 that repeatable quest gives 25 per turnin >.< |
| 15:02.46 | Josh_Borke | they got rid of diminishing rep returns |
| 15:02.48 | Josh_Borke | i thought |
| 15:02.48 | Xinhuan | it is far faster to kill 50 goblins (for 25 rep) than to do that feralas quest |
| 15:02.48 | Wobin | Maldivia: fantastic |
| 15:03.22 | Xinhuan | well it gives 25 at every level to be more exact |
| 15:03.41 | Xinhuan | except for completing it the very first time |
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| 15:27.14 | deltron | dire maul has a reputation? |
| 15:28.06 | Stanzilla | Shendralar |
| 15:30.59 | zenzelezz | <Josh_Borke> they got rid of diminishing rep returns <--- yes, go do starting area quests at 70 and you get full rep |
| 15:45.25 | Wobin | Night all |
| 15:45.31 | Wobin | and thank you for the help =) |
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| 15:50.22 | [Liquidor] | David Hasselhoff is the AntiChrist: http://www.pastey.net/82621 |
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| 16:25.12 | MySpoons2Big | Is there a way to check if your target's target is not you in a macro conditional? |
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| 16:25.53 | Josh_Borke | don't think so, no |
| 16:26.14 | MySpoons2Big | k |
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| 16:34.03 | Maldivia | well, can check, but can't act (cast spell etc) accordingly |
| 16:35.04 | Vangual | hmm, is GetTime() an expensive call for lua? |
| 16:35.58 | Shirik|zZz | it's not really a Lua function |
| 16:36.07 | Vangual | or the wow engine for that matter |
| 16:36.12 | Shirik|zZz | and no, it really only makes I think one kernel call and then some quick math on it |
| 16:36.46 | Vangual | ok, intending it to call twice a second, shouldn't worry then i guess |
| 16:36.49 | Shirik | people use it in OnUpdate all the time so it can't be that expensive |
| 16:36.55 | Shirik | heh, no, I use it a lot more frequently than that |
| 16:36.57 | Industrial | ~seen Iriel |
| 16:37.00 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 9h 26m 38s ago, saying: 'And now.. sleep time!'. |
| 16:37.09 | Shirik | I call it once per frame :D |
| 16:38.56 | Vangual | heh ok :) |
| 16:42.40 | Maldivia | GetTime() is used alot in OnUpdate... :) |
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| 16:57.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Cide |
| 16:57.52 | purl | wallops Cide with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 16:58.03 | Cide | ok... |
| 16:58.13 | sag_ich_nicht | don |
| 16:58.17 | sag_ich_nicht | *don't do sines :( |
| 16:58.21 | sag_ich_nicht | it highlights me :( |
| 16:58.36 | Cide | oh, did you know |
| 16:58.45 | Cide | sin v = sin (pi - v) |
| 16:58.48 | sag_ich_nicht | gaaaaaaah |
| 16:58.51 | sag_ich_nicht | die |
| 16:58.53 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 16:58.57 | sag_ich_nicht | this reminds me |
| 16:59.16 | sag_ich_nicht | we should ask Shirik a question Cide |
| 16:59.27 | Cide | yes |
| 16:59.33 | Cide | hey Shirik, integrate sin x dx for me |
| 16:59.45 | Shirik | -cosx +c fooooo |
| 16:59.54 | Cide | /highfive |
| 17:00.02 | Shirik | i r smrt |
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| 17:01.21 | Shirik | ~integrate Lopeppeppy |
| 17:01.27 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:01.37 | Cide | dp? |
| 17:01.46 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 17:02.04 | Cide | if you want your area calculated, sure. |
| 17:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | I like to be calculated, it's refreshing. |
| 17:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 17:03.34 | sag_ich_nicht | this isn't #wowace. |
| 17:03.36 | sag_ich_nicht | stop it. |
| 17:04.03 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 17:04.21 | Cide | sin ^2 v + cos ^2 v, sag_ich_nicht? |
| 17:04.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i never had calculus or the equivalent of it, so don't bother me Cide :) |
| 17:05.07 | Cide | sin sin sin |
| 17:05.15 | Cide | I just can't think of more ways to type 'sin' :/ |
| 17:05.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll sin your mom |
| 17:05.36 | Cide | go for it |
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| 17:08.47 | Shirik | ooh ooh |
| 17:09.05 | Shirik | integral(sin^2 v + cos^2v)dv == v! |
| 17:09.18 | Shirik | tricky tricky Cide |
| 17:09.50 | Cide | I was like |
| 17:10.07 | Cide | "uhh.... is it?" ... "oh." |
| 17:10.18 | Shirik | hehe |
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| 17:16.24 | Maldivia | ohh... they finally implemented the 2 ring? |
| 17:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | So I heard. |
| 17:17.07 | ralfWORK | hmm? |
| 17:17.22 | Hjalte | 22 of all stats :) |
| 17:17.24 | Maldivia | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34837 |
| 17:17.29 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 17:17.38 | Shirik | I go to at&t's site and start reviewing plans |
| 17:17.42 | ralfWORK | the 2 ring has been there for a while iirc |
| 17:17.59 | Shirik | and up pops "Hi, my name's Jessica. Can I assist you in seelcting a plan that suits your needs?" |
| 17:18.01 | Cide | Shirik: there is no link |
| 17:18.18 | break19 | HAX!@# |
| 17:18.21 | Maldivia | if "for a while" mean since 2.4 PTR, then yes, it's found as a random drop from the finishng quest |
| 17:18.36 | ralfWORK | oh wait... |
| 17:18.38 | ralfWORK | hrm |
| 17:19.05 | ralfWORK | I coulda sworn there was a "2 ring" before that was 2 of all stats |
| 17:19.09 | ralfWORK | and possibyl a 3 and 4 |
| 17:19.42 | Maldivia | on private server perhaps - but then again everything is posible there |
| 17:20.18 | ralfWORK | eh. maybe I was confused then |
| 17:21.53 | Shirik | We're sorry. The Internet browser that you are using will not display the following pages properly. Please use Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5 or higher instead. |
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| 17:22.06 | Shirik | ~kill webmasters that don't know how to be intelligent |
| 17:22.06 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited anti-meson gun at webmasters that don't know how to be intelligent |
| 17:22.09 | nevcairiel | what did you use ? :P |
| 17:22.10 | Lin | hi to everyone! |
| 17:22.28 | Shirik | firefox 2... |
| 17:22.42 | break19 | camino 1.6b ftw |
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| 17:23.52 | nevcairiel | anyone know what happend to the CombatLogRange* cvars in 2.4? |
| 17:24.25 | Shirik | this is the best part |
| 17:24.27 | nevcairiel | i know that they're not there anymore, but is there a replacement or somethign? |
| 17:24.33 | Shirik | We found more than one address matching your information. You can re-enter the address or select one from the list below. |
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| 17:24.46 | Shirik | 1400 HANCOCK BLVD, DAYTONA BEACH, FL |
| 17:24.48 | Shirik | 1400 HANCOCK BLVD, DAYTONA BEACH, FL |
| 17:24.52 | Shirik | 1400 HANCOCK BLVD, DAYTONA BEACH, FL |
| 17:24.54 | Shirik | 1400 HANCOCK BLVD, DAYTONA BEACH, FL |
| 17:24.59 | Shirik | which do I choose >< |
| 17:25.07 | Lukian | 1400 HANCOCK BLVD, DAYTONA BEACH, FL |
| 17:25.39 | break19 | man, tough choice. |
| 17:26.00 | Lopeppeppy | I always choose C on multiple choice when I don't know the answer. |
| 17:26.28 | Lunessa | I answer "which one gets me the bewbs?" |
| 17:26.48 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* You would. |
| 17:26.59 | break19 | hey guys.. I'm wanting to access a lib that is an optional thing, and I dont want my code to crap out if its not there.. local OL = LibStub("MyOptionalLib-1.0"), OL will be nil if the lib doesnt exist? or will it give an error there? |
| 17:27.00 | Lunessa | Yes, I would. |
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| 17:58.16 | Lunessa | kill me now, please. |
| 17:58.28 | Shirik | ~kill Lunessa |
| 17:58.28 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudopositrino gun at Lunessa |
| 17:58.35 | Shirik | ~revive Lunessa |
| 17:58.36 | purl | ACTION performs the Heimlich, mouth-to-mouth, shock treatment and anything else necessary to revive Lunessa |
| 18:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | I surely did not mean to share my germs around... a lot of people have this nasty chest congestion cold this winter. |
| 18:02.09 | Lunessa | I have some sort of infection in the throat/ear. It's miserable. |
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| 18:19.49 | Vangual | any pitbull user with a shaman that's interested in some beta-testing (on a 2.4 realm only)? |
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| 18:21.32 | deltron | Vangual: I do |
| 18:21.44 | deltron | Vangual: totem timers? |
| 18:21.53 | Vangual | yep :) |
| 18:21.56 | deltron | nice |
| 18:22.15 | deltron | I won't be able to test until later tonight |
| 18:22.26 | Vangual | fetch http://vangual-wow.googlecode.com/files/PitBull_TotemTimers-0.9.0.zip |
| 18:22.49 | Vangual | the defaults are a bit unideal still so you'll have to mess with the options (under player) a bit first |
| 18:22.51 | deltron | i'll grab it |
| 18:23.09 | ralfWORK | can I haz new badge caster mace plz? |
| 18:24.18 | deltron | takeover time! |
| 18:24.21 | Shirik | time to take over the channel |
| 18:24.24 | deltron | lol |
| 18:24.32 | Shirik | >.> oh :( |
| 18:24.54 | deltron | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.55 | deltron | oops |
| 18:25.15 | Shirik | I would be careful with that |
| 18:25.15 | ralfWORK | hahahhah |
| 18:25.22 | Shirik | freenode might have some kind of auto-kline for that |
| 18:25.29 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Seerah|away!i=jnw@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by clad|office (Bela|work Shirik) |
| 18:25.33 | clad|office | hahahahahah |
| 18:25.34 | clad|office | damnit |
| 18:25.41 | ralfWORK | lewl |
| 18:25.43 | Shirik | gg |
| 18:25.46 | clad|office | i forgot that that wouldn't kick all three of you |
| 18:25.51 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [clad|office!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (for trying to kick me) |
| 18:25.52 | ralfWORK | HAHAHAHAHAH |
| 18:25.57 | deltron | yeah I'm sure they would |
| 18:25.58 | *** join/#wowi-lounge clad|office (i=jnw@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 18:26.16 | Shirik | now the question becomes.... do I give clad|office the +o that ChanServ can't give right now |
| 18:26.29 | Shirik | this is probably against my better judgement |
| 18:26.35 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o clad|office] by Shirik |
| 18:26.38 | Cide | don't |
| 18:26.39 | Cide | oh god |
| 18:26.46 | clad|office | i would have had it back in 45 seconds anywa |
| 18:26.52 | clad|office | before you realized what was happening :P |
| 18:27.03 | clad|office | already had the file opened :p |
| 18:27.55 | clad|office | bye bye cladhaire =( |
| 18:27.59 | clad|office | guess my internet is down |
| 18:27.59 | Shirik | =( |
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| 18:28.08 | Shirik | or |
| 18:28.11 | Shirik | cladhaire == Cidan |
| 18:28.12 | Shirik | hmmmmm |
| 18:28.18 | clad|office | zomg |
| 18:28.20 | Shirik | lua> cladhaire == Cidan |
| 18:28.21 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 18:28.23 | Shirik | !!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:28.28 | Cidan | ... |
| 18:28.47 | Lopeppeppy | You peoples make me scared. |
| 18:28.56 | Cidan | lua> dreadlorde == Cidan |
| 18:28.56 | lua_bot | Cidan: true |
| 18:29.08 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 18:29.27 | dreadlorde | lua> nil == nil |
| 18:29.28 | lua_bot | dreadlorde: true |
| 18:29.28 | dreadlorde | zomg |
| 18:29.31 | dreadlorde | so sketchy! |
| 18:29.33 | dreadlorde | FREAKY EVEN |
| 18:29.40 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.40 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.11 | Cide | watch out for the ebil DREADLORED |
| 18:30.16 | Cairenn|afk | yeah |
| 18:30.41 | Cidan | For those of you who have Steam; there is a demo for a game called Audiosurf -- GET IT. You will not regret it. |
| 18:30.48 | Cide | oh |
| 18:30.51 | Cide | I was just wondering if there was a demo |
| 18:30.54 | haste | already bought :p |
| 18:30.55 | Cidan | I played it for five minutes and jumped all over it. |
| 18:30.55 | Cide | thanks Cide |
| 18:30.57 | Cide | err |
| 18:30.57 | Cairenn|afk | linkage? |
| 18:30.59 | Cide | Cidan |
| 18:31.05 | Cidan | Cairenn|afk: It's on Steam |
| 18:31.09 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 18:31.23 | Cidan | Cairenn|afk: If you don't have Steam, then, er, www.steampowered.com |
| 18:31.51 | Cidan | Play it with a very fast tempo'd song. |
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| 18:34.01 | Cidan | oh... |
| 18:34.03 | Cidan | my god. |
| 18:34.06 | Cidan | http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/19/gdc08-exclusive-mova-brings-lifelike-motion-capture-to-unreal-e/ |
| 18:34.11 | Cidan | look at the video part way down |
| 18:34.37 | Vangual | deltron: also try rightclicking on the frames to remove individual totems. forgot to mention that feature completely :) |
| 18:35.04 | Cidan | uh |
| 18:35.16 | Cidan | so I'm likeing going to get a kill or k-line for this |
| 18:35.20 | Cidan | likely |
| 18:35.32 | Cidan | doh, nevermind, :/ |
| 18:35.57 | Cidan | wtf is nickserv, D: |
| 18:36.02 | Shirik | wow, that's kinda impressive |
| 18:36.09 | Cidan | Shirik: Isn't it? |
| 18:36.12 | Shirik | Cidan: Services is down |
| 18:36.38 | Cidan | Oh, bleh. |
| 18:36.43 | Cidan | Did you see both videos? |
| 18:37.47 | Cairenn|afk | brb |
| 18:38.35 | Shirik | yeah I did |
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| 18:39.12 | Cidan | That's just... impressive. |
| 18:39.45 | Crysli | I like the 'your mother' part :D |
| 18:40.01 | Cidan | Yeah, lol |
| 18:40.40 | cncfanatics | someone knows if palatanks still lack behind warriors after the recent buffs ? |
| 18:40.45 | cncfanatics | or if its about equal ? |
| 18:40.59 | Shirik | Oh, services is down for routine/planned maintenance |
| 18:41.05 | Shirik | according to #freenode |
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| 18:41.44 | Shirik | this should be interesting |
| 18:41.59 | Shirik | it's always fun when NS comes back and gets flooded with identify requests |
| 18:42.15 | Cide | your idea of fun is kinda interesting |
| 18:42.15 | cncfanatics | someone knows ? :p |
| 18:42.26 | Cide | cncfanatics: apples and oranges |
| 18:42.35 | cncfanatics | Cide: tanks and tanks |
| 18:42.40 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:42.42 | Cide | your mom, my mom |
| 18:42.52 | cncfanatics | Cide: don't be silly, they're both tanks, they're comparable |
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| 18:43.07 | Cide | eh |
| 18:43.46 | ralfWORK | which tanks? |
| 18:43.51 | cncfanatics | paladins & warriors |
| 18:43.55 | cncfanatics | how do they compare to eachother these days ? |
| 18:44.03 | ralfWORK | lolpaladin |
| 18:44.19 | nevcairiel | paladins lack in aggro |
| 18:44.24 | nevcairiel | once they're oom :P |
| 18:44.25 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: they do ? |
| 18:44.25 | ralfWORK | big thing I don't get about prot pallys |
| 18:44.38 | ralfWORK | is how do they get their mana pool to last? |
| 18:44.39 | cncfanatics | always used to be superior when I played my protadin |
| 18:44.45 | cncfanatics | ralfWORK: heals restore mana |
| 18:44.54 | nevcairiel | not enough tho |
| 18:44.59 | ralfWORK | cncfanatics: then our pally sucks. he's always complaining about mana |
| 18:45.01 | nevcairiel | our tank pally always runs oom |
| 18:45.02 | |pez| | Yay, I'm being blamed for avatar uploads not working on the forum I once hosted, but not anymore. :P |
| 18:45.07 | nevcairiel | and warriors out aggro |
| 18:45.09 | Crysli | Yay |
| 18:45.17 | cncfanatics | well, I never lacked mana and always outaggrod the warriors -.- |
| 18:45.37 | cncfanatics | my blue bar was basicly a rage bar except it started full :p |
| 18:45.37 | batrick | the proposed lua 5.2 changes look excellent |
| 18:45.46 | Cide | do we get ++? |
| 18:45.51 | batrick | no |
| 18:45.56 | Cide | or, better, in-place assignment operators? |
| 18:45.56 | Lin | but.. if you have too much dodge/parry, you get less damage > less heals > less mana recovery > oom |
| 18:46.01 | batrick | but they're thinking about bit operations |
| 18:46.05 | Cide | nice |
| 18:46.07 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 18:46.10 | cncfanatics | Lin: if a warrior gets too much dodge/parry he gets less damage > less rage |
| 18:46.11 | Cide | what about xor? |
| 18:46.13 | cncfanatics | same thing |
| 18:46.20 | batrick | they didn't say |
| 18:46.26 | Shirik | Cide: they'll get rid of the damn power operator |
| 18:46.30 | Shirik | yes! |
| 18:46.34 | Cide | Shirik: nice backwards compat :P |
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| 18:46.45 | Shirik | Screw backwards compatibility, it shouldn't be there anyway |
| 18:46.48 | cncfanatics | is there a pow operator in lua ? |
| 18:46.51 | batrick | they'll invent they're own symbols likely |
| 18:46.53 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:46.54 | Cide | ^ |
| 18:46.55 | Shirik | and it needs to drown |
| 18:46.58 | cncfanatics | didn't know |
| 18:46.59 | batrick | except maybe || and && |
| 18:47.03 | cncfanatics | always using math.pow |
| 18:47.11 | Cide | batrick: | and & you mean |
| 18:47.14 | Shirik | math.pow is the way it should be |
| 18:47.16 | batrick | but just changing them all will help confuse the C programmers less because of ^ |
| 18:47.22 | batrick | Cide: ya |
| 18:47.30 | cncfanatics | wouldn't ^ be more performant ? |
| 18:47.31 | cncfanatics | no funciton call |
| 18:47.33 | Cide | inventing new symbols is stupid |
| 18:47.36 | Cide | like |
| 18:47.48 | Cide | if there's a reasonable 'standard' for bit operations, why bother? |
| 18:47.58 | cncfanatics | Shirik: ain't ^ more efficient ? |
| 18:48.09 | Cide | cncfanatics: yes |
| 18:48.15 | batrick | well xor would have to be different and that could be _more_ confusing is my argument |
| 18:48.23 | Shirik | yes, but barely, and it's stupid |
| 18:48.37 | batrick | shirik it's there to help the non-programmers! |
| 18:49.36 | foxlit | Meh |
| 18:50.20 | foxlit | ^ > math.pow |
| 18:51.04 | Shirik | die |
| 18:51.05 | Shirik | die die die |
| 18:52.10 | cncfanatics | Shirik: its a fact |
| 18:52.24 | Shirik | I don't care if it's more efficient, it's stupid |
| 18:52.37 | foxlit | It's not what _you_ are used to. |
| 18:52.44 | foxlit | It doesn't really change anything beyond that :) |
| 18:52.47 | Shirik | Yes, and obviously everyone should follow my way of thinking |
| 18:52.54 | Shirik | :D |
| 18:53.05 | cncfanatics | ok, Shirik is right ! |
| 18:53.10 | cncfanatics | all hail the mighty Shirik |
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| 18:53.19 | Shirik | much better |
| 18:53.26 | foxlit | xor could be the xor operator :) |
| 18:53.35 | Shirik | That's not really what I don't like |
| 18:53.41 | cncfanatics | foxlit I think xand should be the xor operator |
| 18:53.41 | Shirik | I don't like that it's an operator which is not an operation |
| 18:53.59 | Shirik | there is no "power" operation |
| 18:54.13 | Lin | i have the power (operation) says he-man! |
| 18:54.17 | foxlit | How far down isn't there a power operation? |
| 18:54.27 | cncfanatics | why is power not an operation Shirik |
| 18:56.20 | Shirik | because it's not |
| 18:56.31 | Shirik | you do it by a mix of multiplication and various other tools |
| 18:56.39 | Antiarc | Yay, new KTM build out. |
| 18:56.48 | foxlit | You do multiplication by addition and various other tools? |
| 18:56.53 | Shirik | no |
| 18:57.06 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_021908_114002.jpg <-- 17 min of combat. Go go gadget framerate. |
| 18:57.21 | Shirik | there's a multiplication instruction, and often it is implemented using bit shifting (except in worst-case scenario), but it is a single instruction |
| 18:57.28 | Shirik | power, on the other hand, is not a single instruction |
| 18:58.20 | foxlit | bit shifting = addition and other tools |
| 18:58.31 | Shirik | not... really |
| 18:58.39 | Lin | bit shifting is bit shifting |
| 18:58.40 | Shirik | it's a D flip flop |
| 18:58.42 | Shirik | that's it |
| 18:58.49 | kergoth | Antiarc: what profiler is that? |
| 18:59.01 | Antiarc | Something called !Profiler I pulled off of Curse |
| 18:59.09 | Antiarc | I wanted one with no library entanglement |
| 18:59.53 | kergoth | ah, was looking for something simple like that |
| 18:59.54 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:00.44 | krka | Shirik: you only think math operators are operators if they can be implemented efficiently by hardware? |
| 19:00.54 | Shirik | yup :D |
| 19:01.00 | Shirik | But I'm a computer engineer, that's how I think |
| 19:01.08 | Shirik | low level = wi |
| 19:01.08 | Shirik | win |
| 19:01.29 | art3mis | ~fail shirik |
| 19:01.30 | purl | shirik: Fail. |
| 19:01.35 | Lin | operators should be easily translated to low lvl computer language |
| 19:02.05 | Lin | s/computer/processor/ |
| 19:02.10 | Lin | yes |
| 19:02.15 | foxlit | So advances in architecture design should potentially redefine what is an operator and what's not? |
| 19:02.39 | Shirik | I have no argument against that, though I don't see many changes coming in the near future. But you never know. |
| 19:02.39 | krka | that's a fairly narrow minded way to look at it when you consider a high level language designed to be easy to use for people who aren't primarily hardware nerds |
| 19:03.08 | art3mis | name one high level thats easy to use and designed for non nerds |
| 19:03.16 | Shirik | VISUAL BASIC! |
| 19:03.19 | Fin | BASIC |
| 19:03.22 | art3mis | ass |
| 19:03.24 | krka | lua |
| 19:03.24 | Fin | Pascal |
| 19:03.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:03.28 | art3mis | i almost spit my coffee out |
| 19:03.28 | Lin | every high lvl language is translated for a lower lvl language in linking. |
| 19:03.35 | Fin | SQL! |
| 19:03.45 | Fin | English |
| 19:03.51 | Lin | brainfuck |
| 19:03.57 | deltron | lol |
| 19:04.10 | foxlit | Low-level architecture should not be limiting to a high-level language |
| 19:04.11 | Fin | Perl, sort of! |
| 19:04.20 | art3mis | "should not" |
| 19:04.36 | art3mis | but thats like saying white trash should get ferraris too |
| 19:04.38 | art3mis | ;P |
| 19:04.42 | Lin | foxlit: you can build libraries for almost everything |
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| 19:04.55 | art3mis | hi shadowedpipe |
| 19:05.02 | Lin | you can build layers over layers using libraries. |
| 19:05.18 | Shirik | I don't see why it should be the language's job to provide abstraction like that |
| 19:05.20 | Fin | who are you talking to, artthreemiscloseangledbracket? |
| 19:05.29 | Shirik | You can make a function to do that work |
| 19:05.34 | Shirik | That's how it's going to end up anyway |
| 19:05.37 | Lin | exactly. |
| 19:05.50 | foxlit | It's going to end up compiling to bytecode anyway |
| 19:05.52 | Lin | C can even be OO =D |
| 19:06.00 | foxlit | Why should it provide you with anything other than a bytecode typewriter? |
| 19:06.04 | krka | Shirik: that's kind of the point of high level languages - providing abstractions |
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| 19:06.15 | art3mis | the year was 1938 and charlie chaplin tried to take over the world, the world was in chaos but then the UN came and un-nazi'd the world |
| 19:06.17 | Lin | foxlit: there is differente lvls of interactions with machines. |
| 19:06.28 | Shirik | but is it abstracting the instruction set, or is it abstracting the algorithm |
| 19:06.33 | Shirik | I would argue only the former should be done |
| 19:06.35 | Fin | that and RAPING THE MINDS OF COMPUTER SCIENCE FANBOIS! |
| 19:06.38 | Fin | that too |
| 19:06.38 | Lin | we play WoW this is a kind of layer over layers. |
| 19:06.57 | deltron | I do my code in longhand binary |
| 19:07.01 | Fin | magnet |
| 19:07.06 | Shirik | butterflies |
| 19:07.13 | foxlit | Apple-Command-Alt-Butterfiles |
| 19:07.26 | deltron | punchcards! |
| 19:07.32 | foxlit | s/ile/lie/ |
| 19:07.42 | Shirik | I still want a punchcard that I can frame |
| 19:07.46 | Shirik | I framed my 486 |
| 19:08.03 | Shirik | I would have framed my P3 but it's fricking huge |
| 19:08.25 | clad|office | 8088 for the win |
| 19:08.26 | clad|office | =( |
| 19:08.33 | clad|office | always gets so much hate |
| 19:08.57 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion dcrdcc |
| 19:08.59 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Dcrdcc, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (33/28/0). 11008 HP; 9035 Armour; 1268 AP; 219.600 Melee DPS; 24.46% melee crit; 47 melee hit; 36 defense; 8.35% dodge; 5.60% block; 236 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1710 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yryws ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3b8k7a ][ Updated: Tue Feb 19 14:18:16 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:09.39 | clad|office | Thrae: WTB rename for your bot to WowBot |
| 19:09.51 | clad|office | I don't care that it has anythign to do with Lua, and its obviously an IRC bot :p |
| 19:10.06 | Shirik | himan? |
| 19:10.07 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:10.07 | deltron | heh |
| 19:10.10 | Crysli | Hi, man. |
| 19:10.13 | Crysli | ^_^ |
| 19:10.14 | CladIrcHuman | Hi, man! |
| 19:10.27 | CladIrcHuman | Thrae: <3# |
| 19:10.29 | deltron | !c us uldum deltron |
| 19:10.31 | CladIrcHuman | Thrae: but seriously |
| 19:10.32 | WoWLuaircBot | deltron: Deltron, Level 70 Troll Shaman (16/45/0). 8339 HP; 6560 Mana; 138 mana regen; 8 mp5; 5696 Armour; 1538 AP; 236.500 Melee DPS; 32.42% melee crit; 173 melee hit; 461 +spell dmg/heal; 15.91% dodge; 5.00% block; 38 resilience;[[ TBR: 948 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2act57 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35mja6 ][ Updated: Tue Feb 19 14:19:49 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:10.37 | CladIrcHuman | its too camelcase and long |
| 19:10.37 | CladIrcHuman | =( |
| 19:10.48 | deltron | thraebot hates enhancement shaman |
| 19:10.52 | ralfWORK | tab complete ftw |
| 19:11.05 | clad|office | ralfWORK: its not addressing it, its seeing it post. |
| 19:11.11 | clad|office | too damn long, and too many caps |
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| 19:11.16 | clad|office | like this guy |
| 19:11.17 | deltron | !c us uldum patronus |
| 19:11.18 | ralfWORK | hahahaha |
| 19:11.28 | clad|office | but at least he's on a stick |
| 19:11.45 | ZealotOnAStick | hmm? |
| 19:11.55 | deltron | lol camelcase |
| 19:12.02 | clad|office | we were discussing people with long camelcase naems |
| 19:12.05 | clad|office | like the newly renamed WoWLuaircBot |
| 19:12.11 | clad|office | which makes me want to gouge my eyes out |
| 19:12.15 | ralfWORK | that's poorly camelcased! |
| 19:12.17 | ZealotOnAStick | camelcase? |
| 19:12.20 | WoWLuaircBot | deltron: Patronus, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (16/45/0). 9764 HP; 7584 Mana; 177 mana regen; 76 mp5; 6372 Armour; 1782 AP; 250.200 Melee DPS; 34.15% melee crit; 174 melee hit; 534 +spell dmg/heal; 11.76% dodge; 5.00% block; 12 resilience;[[ TBR: 1192 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2exskb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2olx5n ][ Updated: Tue Feb 19 14:21:37 2008 EST ]] |
| 19:12.23 | Shirik | NamesLikeThis |
| 19:12.23 | ralfWORK | should be WowLuaIrcBot |
| 19:12.33 | Antiarc | wow_lua_irc_bot, imo |
| 19:12.38 | Shirik | eew |
| 19:12.42 | ralfWORK | HAHAHAH |
| 19:12.44 | Shirik | UNDERSCORES_ARE_FOR_CONSTANTS |
| 19:12.47 | clad|office | ralfWORK: Should be WowBot |
| 19:12.51 | clad|office | if anything# |
| 19:12.53 | zenzelezz | WoWLUAIRCbot |
| 19:12.55 | ralfWORK | UNDERSCORES_AND_CAPS_YOU_MEAN |
| 19:12.58 | clad|office | having IRC in there is sad |
| 19:13.05 | clad|office | and the lua, it just polarina-ish |
| 19:13.11 | Antiarc | Well |
| 19:13.12 | Shirik | __andMicrosoftCompilerSpecificStuff |
| 19:13.15 | Antiarc | The bot is always here |
| 19:13.18 | Antiarc | So it's kinda a constant |
| 19:13.38 | WOW_LUA_IRC_BOT | > GREETINGS HUMANS |
| 19:13.43 | WOW_LUA_IRC_BOT | > HOW MAY I SERVE YOU TODAY |
| 19:13.50 | WOW_LUA_IRC_BOT | > HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF WOW? |
| 19:13.55 | Shirik | wowluaircbot> while true do end |
| 19:14.02 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:14.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Hello Joshua. Let's play Global Thermonuclear War. |
| 19:14.32 | Shirik | Are you sure you would not like a game of Chess? |
| 19:14.54 | Shirik | greatest movie ever |
| 19:15.42 | Shirik | The one line that really gets me though is User: "Is there a way for it to play [tic tac toe] by itself?" Developer: "Sure, when it asks you, type '0' for number of players" |
| 19:15.50 | Shirik | That is how stupid users are, really. |
| 19:15.56 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 19:15.57 | Shirik | like seriously, come on |
| 19:16.08 | ralfWORK | naw man |
| 19:16.14 | ralfWORK | that was like the moment of brilliance in the movie |
| 19:16.24 | ralfWORK | hidden in plain sight |
| 19:16.26 | art3mis | that whole movie was made of awesome |
| 19:16.34 | art3mis | it taught me how to make free phone calls |
| 19:16.38 | Shirik | .. |
| 19:16.42 | art3mis | and pushed me into the life of a phreak ;P |
| 19:16.47 | ralfWORK | it taught me how to pick up chicks |
| 19:16.56 | art3mis | the pop lid thing actually works |
| 19:16.59 | Shirik | by telling them you'd change their grade? |
| 19:17.03 | art3mis | or used to work rather |
| 19:17.08 | batrick | shirik do u play chess |
| 19:17.12 | Shirik | yup |
| 19:17.24 | batrick | sweet we should play a game sometime |
| 19:17.24 | art3mis | he always loses though |
| 19:17.30 | Shirik | used to be on HS chess team |
| 19:17.31 | ralfWORK | I beat all you |
| 19:17.35 | art3mis | wow |
| 19:17.45 | art3mis | the hs chess team? |
| 19:17.53 | art3mis | is your name andy good? |
| 19:17.59 | art3mis | did you built turk? |
| 19:18.21 | art3mis | the terminator tv show ;) |
| 19:18.48 | art3mis | andy good builds the turk an ai that learns and eventually forms the basis for skynet and then it has a tantrum and lows up the world |
| 19:19.13 | art3mis | the turk was made to beat other ai computers that could already beat human grandmasters |
| 19:19.37 | zenzelezz | got to hate it when people low up the world |
| 19:19.50 | art3mis | hrm |
| 19:20.27 | art3mis | lets asay your using outlook and exchange, you have 200 unread emails, you close outlook and shutoff the computer for the weekend and you have a blackberry but dont read any of those 200 emails |
| 19:20.47 | art3mis | then you come in monday turn on your computer and fire up outlook, it shows only 50 emails unread |
| 19:21.09 | art3mis | is there a way to roll back to friday to get those other 150 emails reselected as unread or are ya screwed? |
| 19:21.22 | art3mis | keeping in mind it's just 1 person not the whole office |
| 19:21.40 | zenzelezz | maybe someone sneak-read his mail :-o |
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| 19:21.57 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 19:22.02 | batrick | "your using outlook" <-- there's the problem |
| 19:22.28 | clad|office | zenzelezz: clearly, he's cheating and someonei s trying to find him out |
| 19:23.13 | batrick | batrick@menzoberranzan:~$ cat /dev/cdrom > /home/batrick/Desktop/robotC.iso |
| 19:23.13 | batrick | cat: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error |
| 19:23.18 | batrick | hrm what do I do :( |
| 19:23.27 | batrick | anybody? |
| 19:23.34 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:23.36 | Lin | cdrom media has problems |
| 19:23.43 | Lin | use dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file |
| 19:23.53 | Lin | dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/batrick/Desktop/robotC.iso |
| 19:23.58 | art3mis | batrick: not me, but i tried to convince them otherwise ;) |
| 19:24.12 | art3mis | and its a shee |
| 19:24.14 | art3mis | she |
| 19:24.39 | art3mis | i suggested she move all her unreads unto a folder if she wanted to keep em around for a while |
| 19:24.47 | art3mis | but appearantly thats too complicated ;P |
| 19:25.22 | Cidan | oh man, I need to dd my dying drive |
| 19:25.26 | Cidan | I forgot all about that |
| 19:25.32 | Cidan | Thanks Lin, lol. |
| 19:25.36 | zenzelezz | yeah, can't expect her to print those 200 mail just to put them in a folder! (What's a folder?) ;) |
| 19:25.41 | batrick | Lin: think that worked thanks, although it gave that input/output error same as cat |
| 19:25.47 | batrick | but it finished i think |
| 19:26.27 | art3mis | hahahaha |
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| 19:26.35 | ralfWORK | just md5 the results |
| 19:26.38 | ralfWORK | and make sure they are the same |
| 19:26.39 | Lin | batrick: on the end of "copy"? |
| 19:27.04 | batrick | batrick@menzoberranzan:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/batrick/Desktop/robotc2.iso |
| 19:27.07 | batrick | dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error |
| 19:27.09 | Lin | try md5sum checks |
| 19:27.10 | batrick | 19936+0 records in |
| 19:27.12 | batrick | 19936+0 records out |
| 19:27.15 | batrick | 10207232 bytes (10 MB) copied, 6.4598 seconds, 1.6 MB/s |
| 19:27.31 | MentalPower | aaaand, we're back! |
| 19:27.34 | Lin | or you havent copied anything at all? |
| 19:27.39 | cncfanatics | Shirik: ain't a multiplication just several sums ? just like a power is several multiplication (yes I know I'm late, I was having dinner) |
| 19:27.41 | batrick | ya I dunno |
| 19:27.47 | zenzelezz | MentalPower: lies, we've been here all along |
| 19:27.48 | Lin | what is the size of cdrom media? |
| 19:27.54 | Shirik | cncfanatics: It used to be done that way, but many improvements have ended that |
| 19:28.10 | Shirik | worst case scenario takes 7 internal clock ticks on most processors |
| 19:28.22 | cncfanatics | how are multiplications done these days then ? |
| 19:28.23 | MentalPower | zenzelezz: yes, but I haven't, or at least not from my main computer (this one) |
| 19:28.40 | batrick | 41 MB and the iso dd made is 9MB so i guess something is wrong |
| 19:28.43 | Shirik | a combination of bit shifting and logical operators that I still don't 100% understand |
| 19:28.49 | zenzelezz | MentalPower: stop messing up my super imba jokes |
| 19:28.59 | Lin | batrick: i guess that you have a cdrom with problems |
| 19:29.00 | MentalPower | :P |
| 19:29.54 | batrick | Lin: pretty sure the cdrom is ok |
| 19:30.13 | Lin | cdrom reader has problems |
| 19:30.15 | Lin | =D |
| 19:31.09 | zenzelezz | batrick: RIAA's in ur cdrom, messin up ur ecstrakt |
| 19:31.10 | cncfanatics | Shirik: heh |
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| 19:31.51 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 19:33.04 | batrick | anyway gotta go thanks for the help |
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| 19:42.09 | ecs | you triggered my highlight |
| 19:42.20 | zenzelezz | I did? o_O |
| 19:43.11 | ecs | "ecstrakt" |
| 19:43.40 | ralfWORK | sounds like your highlight is fail |
| 19:43.56 | zenzelezz | ecs: lol, sorry :) |
| 19:44.27 | MentalPower | ecstatic! |
| 19:44.29 | MentalPower | :P |
| 19:44.34 | ecs | yeah i know |
| 19:44.36 | ralfWORK | secs |
| 19:44.42 | ecs | that didn't work |
| 19:44.44 | Lopeppeppy | ecstacy |
| 19:44.44 | Antiarc | So the other day |
| 19:44.45 | ecs | it's ecs* |
| 19:44.50 | Antiarc | I was working with Amazon's ECS service |
| 19:44.51 | ralfWORK | ecstatic |
| 19:44.52 | ecs | not *ecs |
| 19:44.56 | ralfWORK | (that's probably spelled wrong) |
| 19:45.17 | ecs | no you got it |
| 19:45.29 | Shirik | I wanted to be a teacher, but the ECS wouldn't certify me |
| 19:45.37 | ralfWORK | ecsima |
| 19:45.43 | ralfWORK | now that is spelled wrong, I know |
| 19:45.55 | ecs | at least my volume is off and i'm not getting dinged |
| 19:46.02 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:46.03 | Shirik | <3 |
| 19:47.48 | Crysli | Worst one coming up: |
| 19:48.00 | Crysli | I just made a portal to Ecsodar. |
| 19:48.45 | ecs | just think of instances/raids |
| 19:48.49 | ecs | 'alright, everyone on ecs' |
| 19:48.53 | ecs | 'first skull, then ecs' |
| 19:48.54 | MentalPower | hehe, journeyed.com is getting hammered |
| 19:48.55 | ecs | ' |
| 19:49.01 | ralfWORK | hahahahaha good one |
| 19:49.23 | ecs | sucks having your name pronounced the same as a raid symbol |
| 19:52.46 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 19:52.57 | zenzelezz | teach them to say "cross" |
| 19:53.05 | ralfWORK | it's not a cross it's an ecs |
| 19:53.11 | Crysli | Lol. I can imagine people staring to complain that they can't attack 'ecs' |
| 19:54.02 | zenzelezz | nipple, thong, cross, blue square |
| 19:54.12 | ecs | we call the round one 'condom' |
| 19:54.16 | ecs | 'green panties' |
| 19:54.18 | MentalPower | lol |
| 19:54.22 | ralfWORK | yea, condom or nipple |
| 19:54.25 | zenzelezz | thong is easier |
| 19:54.29 | Xinhuan | or you can use colors! |
| 19:54.35 | Xinhuan | attack red, blue then yellow |
| 19:54.35 | ecs | the mt in our second kara group puts the green panties on his head |
| 19:54.35 | ralfWORK | of course our guild is "family friendly" |
| 19:54.47 | ecs | nipples are family friendly |
| 19:54.48 | ralfWORK | so we can't be saying crap like that :( |
| 19:55.01 | zenzelezz | although thanks to my pronunciation of English, I can't use "moon" and "blue"... have to say "halfmoon" and "square" :-p |
| 19:55.27 | Crysli | How does adding 'half' make it easier to pronounce? |
| 19:55.28 | Cairenn | art3mis: >< |
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| 19:55.36 | Cairenn | "as soon as" not "right now" |
| 19:55.57 | zenzelezz | Crysli: would you confuse "halfmoon" and "square"? |
| 19:56.09 | art3mis | heh no point really, messages work just as well ;P |
| 19:57.21 | Crysli | zenzelezz: You've got a point. |
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| 20:02.23 | |Jelly| | If you have a 1850 personal rating but your team isn't 1850, can you still get the weapons? |
| 20:03.07 | ecs | yes. |
| 20:03.10 | ecs | personal rating |
| 20:03.43 | Shirik | it's based on personal rating |
| 20:03.50 | Shirik | so if your team sucks, but you don't, then you're ok |
| 20:04.27 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 20:04.28 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik tightly until Shirik turns slightly blue |
| 20:16.01 | Baldor_work | it's based on both |
| 20:16.15 | Baldor_work | you need team and personal rating, to prevent abuse of the system. |
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| 20:17.01 | ralfWORK | so that best in slot weapons don't go into the hands of nubs |
| 20:17.35 | ralfWORK | omg omg welfare epicx |
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| 20:18.01 | ralfWORK | somehow blizzard hasn't done that with badge loot |
| 20:21.26 | deltron | lol yeah... |
| 20:21.45 | deltron | looks like I need to go to S4 weapons yet again for top-end weapons |
| 20:23.27 | sacarasc | S4? ;o |
| 20:23.42 | deltron | season 4 |
| 20:23.54 | deltron | enhancement shaman weapon selection is WEAK at best |
| 20:23.55 | sacarasc | stop being in the future! |
| 20:23.59 | sacarasc | i know |
| 20:24.03 | sacarasc | i have one... |
| 20:24.09 | sacarasc | using s1 ones currently |
| 20:24.13 | deltron | heh |
| 20:24.15 | sacarasc | (right ripper and cleaver) |
| 20:24.18 | ralfWORK | also, screw blizz for making me PVP for PVE weapons :( |
| 20:24.27 | deltron | I'm using rising tide/fury right now |
| 20:24.36 | deltron | I've been very lazy this season |
| 20:24.46 | ralfWORK | but they fixed that with the 2.4 caster mace |
| 20:25.05 | sacarasc | i've barely gotten into Kara and suck at PVP, so i'm sticking with season 1 till my arena team can suck less |
| 20:25.16 | deltron | go resto for arena :P |
| 20:25.21 | [dRaCo] | the s3 weapons are awesome, though |
| 20:25.31 | deltron | yeah I want them |
| 20:25.41 | sacarasc | current personal rating is about 1300 for me ;9 |
| 20:25.56 | [dRaCo] | and btw, it is possible to get 1850 as a enhancement shaman |
| 20:25.59 | [dRaCo] | :) |
| 20:26.14 | sacarasc | not if you're me it's not! |
| 20:26.28 | [dRaCo] | yeah, well, might be true |
| 20:27.13 | art3mis | http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/official-hd-dvd-dead-and-buried-format-war-is-over/ |
| 20:27.46 | ralfWORK | about time |
| 20:27.54 | ralfWORK | so can I get rid of my betamax stuff yet? |
| 20:28.01 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 20:28.07 | kamdis | Netflix also announced it's going to phase out HD DVDs too |
| 20:28.20 | kamdis | thanks goodness; I can finally buy a new DVD player |
| 20:28.31 | ralfWORK | cause I was waiting for them to figure out if VHS or betamax was gonna win |
| 20:30.12 | Shirik | Tem: FYI, if you remember that problem you had with devtools last night randomly, I was able to reproduce it |
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| 20:35.13 | Cidan | WHEN I WAS |
| 20:35.16 | Cidan | A YOUNG BOY |
| 20:35.20 | Cidan | FROSTED BUTTS |
| 20:35.24 | Cidan | damn it. |
| 20:35.30 | Crysli | wtflol |
| 20:35.37 | ralfWORK | k |
| 20:35.39 | batrick | k |
| 20:36.42 | Cidan | Tem is prolly the only person who understood that. |
| 20:36.43 | Cidan | I think. |
| 20:37.26 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 20:37.35 | Shirik | NetBeans 6 has integrated SVN support by default? |
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| 20:39.31 | Cidan | I would hope so |
| 20:39.38 | Cidan | CVS has fallen out of favour everywhere |
| 20:39.50 | Shirik | yeah but I kinda just upgraded this computer to NB 6 finally |
| 20:39.53 | ralfWORK | I like it better than Wallgreens |
| 20:39.59 | Shirik | and down at the bottom I see it connecting to my SVN server, and I never did anything >< |
| 20:40.02 | Shirik | caught me off guard lol |
| 20:40.10 | Shirik | It just picked up my .svn folders and rolled |
| 20:40.18 | Cidan | oh, that's nice. |
| 20:40.21 | Cidan | that's real nice |
| 20:42.48 | Josh_Borke | just like that |
| 20:42.51 | Josh_Borke | mmmhmmm |
| 20:44.37 | Shirik | Tem: Fixed, though you're not seeing the problem anymore |
| 20:45.47 | Shirik | rofl |
| 20:45.52 | Shirik | NB 6 also has much better warnings |
| 20:45.59 | Shirik | and my project's filled with them :( |
| 20:46.13 | Shirik | "Missing javadoc" "Unknown @param tag" "Unused import" |
| 20:53.14 | Cairenn | "What's blue and fluffy?" |
| 20:54.04 | Maldivia | NB6 is such an improvement over NB5 :) |
| 20:54.07 | Shirik | "NOT YOUR CODE MUAHAHA" |
| 20:54.25 | Shirik | I've used NB since version 4 and loved it the whole way |
| 20:54.30 | Shirik | but yes v6 is pretty amazing |
| 20:54.35 | Shirik | I just never got around to installing it on this computer |
| 20:54.52 | Shirik | there's some things I really dont' like though |
| 20:54.55 | Maldivia | looking forward to NB7, if the new dynamic reload will be added :) |
| 20:55.30 | Shirik | dynamic reload? |
| 20:55.49 | Maldivia | dynamically reloading existing modules with new version, bypassing the version barrier |
| 20:56.12 | kergoth | ... this warlock's name is Muahahahaha |
| 20:57.29 | ralfWORK | I hate warlocks |
| 20:57.31 | ralfWORK | and rogues |
| 20:57.51 | Maldivia | I hate hostile players... :) |
| 20:58.05 | ralfWORK | ell oh ell? |
| 20:58.15 | Maldivia | they have the apparent grudge to kill me, I don't know why, I'm such a loveable person... |
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| 21:00.00 | Cidan | God |
| 21:00.04 | Cidan | Audiosurf == wins |
| 21:00.05 | Cidan | so much. |
| 21:00.35 | Shirik | ProductCode = {E539DB63-272D-40CB-9D7B-C2EEB02B1CCA}; UpdateCode = {296EB63C-A6F1-411C-BE87-195D1D603583} |
| 21:00.43 | Shirik | This is definitely not the MSI screen |
| 21:04.55 | MentalPower | lol |
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| 21:16.50 | Shirik | Version 0.2.8 is posted for anyone whom may have been having issues: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8239#info |
| 21:17.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: lol, they nuked your thread on wowhead |
| 21:17.19 | Cairenn | ? |
| 21:17.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&board=12 |
| 21:17.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Thread be gone |
| 21:17.47 | Cairenn | wrong forum dear |
| 21:17.52 | Cairenn | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&board=0 |
| 21:18.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I could have sworn that I clicked UI and Macros when I read it initially... |
| 21:18.16 | Cairenn | heh, nope |
| 21:18.49 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:19.14 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 got owneded imo |
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| 21:19.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Ownded? |
| 21:19.58 | Shirik | Cairenn was all like "wrong forum dear" |
| 21:20.02 | Shirik | ownded |
| 21:20.06 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 21:20.28 | art3mis | whats the t6 priest stuff called again? |
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| 21:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | On the flip side, this new guild makes me laugh |
| 21:22.12 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 21:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | "Don't worry, we're a talented guild... most guilds find Hex Lord easy and we made him a challenge! I'm sure we can do the same for BT/Hyjal" |
| 21:23.37 | Esamynn|Work | HAHAHA |
| 21:24.09 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 21:24.45 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 21:25.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to paste this entire thread here, but it's much too big.. |
| 21:25.08 | |Jelly| | "We purposely 8-man with nothing but a shaman healer and a MS warrior for a tank!" |
| 21:25.19 | Esamynn|Work | woot! |
| 21:25.28 | Shirik | meh |
| 21:25.33 | Shirik | should be a feral druid healer imo |
| 21:25.44 | Shirik | where is this thread? |
| 21:25.50 | ScytheBlade1 | On my guild forums |
| 21:25.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Behind a username and password |
| 21:25.58 | Shirik | :< |
| 21:26.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 21:26.05 | Esamynn|Work | ~comfort Shirik |
| 21:26.06 | purl | There, there, Shirik. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 21:26.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence my desire to find a program to just screenshot the webpage |
| 21:26.21 | Shirik | ms paint? |
| 21:26.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but see |
| 21:26.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I'm stick putting together 10 pages of image |
| 21:26.52 | Shirik | it's that long? |
| 21:27.03 | ScytheBlade1 | People have really crappy signatures |
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| 21:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, found an extensions... that is firefox only |
| 21:31.58 | Shirik | well that's what you get for not using firefox |
| 21:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm using seamonkey, thanks ;P |
| 21:32.37 | MentalPower | y seamonkey? |
| 21:32.52 | MentalPower | I'm genuinely curious |
| 21:32.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/misc/GuildThread.png |
| 21:33.02 | MentalPower | not bashing or anything |
| 21:33.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Because Firefox is feature and accessibility stripped |
| 21:33.09 | Cidan | yes, the one for firefox works quite nicely. |
| 21:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I prefer my about:config to a nice GUI and/or warnings when I open about:config |
| 21:33.33 | ScytheBlade1 | afk 20m though |
| 21:34.34 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 21:34.41 | ralfWORK | 207 spell hit rating? |
| 21:36.30 | ralfWORK | isn't that like... high for a lock? |
| 21:39.38 | Cidan | Remember guys |
| 21:39.44 | Cidan | "No" is just "On" backwards. |
| 21:46.29 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:47.24 | ralfWORK | was gonna say |
| 21:47.41 | ralfWORK | wouldn't your name be Cidanadic then? |
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| 22:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. |
| 22:05.42 | ScytheBlade1 | http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/hero/sfbio/#sqlservergirl |
| 22:08.38 | Kaso | Would NOT hit |
| 22:08.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 22:10.01 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 22:18.24 | foxlit | DOES. NOT. COMPUTE. |
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| 22:26.06 | Kalroth | what the fuck |
| 22:26.19 | Kalroth | The source fource? |
| 22:26.33 | Kalroth | http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/hero/sfbio/#windowsvistasensei |
| 22:26.37 | Kalroth | "Windows Vista Sensei comes from a long family line of warriors, the ” Windows” family." |
| 22:27.01 | Kalroth | Super Power: "10th degree black belt and martial arts master trained in the ancient art of combat, security and connectivity." |
| 22:27.03 | Kalroth | ..... |
| 22:30.31 | foxlit | "Can you say, '28 K modem'?" |
| 22:30.37 | foxlit | Why can't I say 14K modem? |
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| 22:37.07 | Kalroth | or 33.6K modem. |
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| 22:51.05 | Kalroth | Shirik: That explains a lot! |
| 23:00.23 | art3mis | man these spam singles are awesome |
| 23:00.47 | art3mis | it says right on the label and i quote "just tear open this package and come to Crazy Flavour Town" |
| 23:06.24 | Kaso | T568A/B wiring standards confuse me |
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| 23:07.51 | Kaso | Why do they decided to split one twisted pair and throw another between them >.< |
| 23:08.29 | Kaso | Surely its easier, and just the same from a wiring perspective to keep the two wires of a pair next to each other |
| 23:10.14 | art3mis | laugh |
| 23:10.22 | art3mis | ive never understood that |
| 23:13.02 | Shirik | Kaso: To avoid all the problems I'm having with serial lines, tbph |
| 23:13.14 | Kaso | Do explain.. |
| 23:13.24 | Shirik | I have to do a lot of manual wiring because you can't just call one wire "tx" and one "rx" |
| 23:13.26 | Kaso | i remeber you mentioning the serials lines the other night, but i forgot >.< |
| 23:13.31 | Shirik | because a tx to one is rx for the other |
| 23:13.39 | Shirik | And if both of them assume that it's going to be pin 2, bad things will happen |
| 23:13.56 | Shirik | they both try to transmit on the same wire, they both try to receive on teh same wire |
| 23:14.05 | Maldivia | well... rx for one end is tx for the other :) |
| 23:14.46 | Shirik | So you cross the two |
| 23:14.46 | Kaso | I understand the reason for having the difference between a T568A and T568B, for crossover etc. |
| 23:15.00 | sylvanaar | god rs-232 ftl |
| 23:15.11 | Shirik | Oh I see what you mean |
| 23:15.14 | batrick | man this is so rediculous shirik |
| 23:15.20 | batrick | try to fix this debug.getlocal |
| 23:15.20 | Shirik | It was probably something they discovered during testing due to crosstalk |
| 23:15.47 | Shirik | (most) engineers don't intentionally try to do strange things to make it more complicated :) |
| 23:16.08 | Shirik | batrick: What's wrong now? |
| 23:16.21 | batrick | many things |
| 23:16.37 | Kaso | he, it pissed me off cos ive gotta mix up cables when im crimping, i want to be able to just line em up and be done with it >.< |
| 23:16.41 | batrick | i don't even know where to begin |
| 23:17.03 | Kaso | (also i realise i could just use any cable layout and match it on either end, but im a sticker for standards) |
| 23:17.13 | Shirik | don't do that please |
| 23:17.21 | Shirik | the layout is designed to minimize crosstalk |
| 23:17.49 | Shirik | deviating from that will likely shorten you maximum distance |
| 23:17.58 | Shirik | of course, nobody follows the maximum distance rules anyway |
| 23:18.10 | Shirik | 10BASE-T specifies 100 foot max but nobody follows that |
| 23:18.30 | wereHamster | Shirik, you mean it depends on the exact colors? |
| 23:18.45 | Shirik | then again, most people use switches instead of hubs these days so it's kinda a mute point |
| 23:18.51 | Shirik | wereHamster: It can impact the quality, yes |
| 23:19.00 | Shirik | It really wouldn't be noticed except at the extremes of the standard |
| 23:19.02 | Maldivia | isn't 100base-t 100 meters (meaning 330 foot) ? |
| 23:19.12 | Shirik | is it meters? |
| 23:19.20 | wereHamster | yeah, meters |
| 23:19.23 | Shirik | I knew it was 100 something |
| 23:19.26 | Shirik | >< |
| 23:19.27 | sylvanaar | what is gigabit? |
| 23:19.39 | wereHamster | 1000 mmbit |
| 23:19.46 | Shirik | sylvanaar: Actually, for gigabit, they just increased the ethernet padding, so I think it's still 100 meters |
| 23:19.52 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 23:19.57 | Maldivia | 1gb is 25meters, I think |
| 23:20.01 | Shirik | though packet size is increased |
| 23:20.07 | sylvanaar | is gigabit all full duplex |
| 23:20.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 3v3 tourney details announced |
| 23:20.39 | Shirik | Yeah, 1000BASE-T is 100 meters |
| 23:20.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Make a level one, talk to an NPC, you're 70 |
| 23:20.45 | Shirik | The compensation was made at the physical layer |
| 23:20.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Talk to another 70, you have 5000g |
| 23:20.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Talk to the same 70, you get another 5000g |
| 23:21.07 | wereHamster | gigabit over cat5/6 can be up to 100m |
| 23:21.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And free gear vendors for everything under the sun |
| 23:21.11 | Shirik | er, at the MAC layer |
| 23:21.46 | sylvanaar | i am too |
| 23:21.48 | Shirik | Besides, people use switches these days anyway |
| 23:21.55 | Shirik | collision detection isn't really that important anymore |
| 23:22.43 | sylvanaar | oh oh, hey can you recommend a good wireless router - i want to ditch my linksys that i bought when i moved |
| 23:22.46 | Cide | yes it is |
| 23:22.58 | Cide | otherwise two objects will just go into each other |
| 23:23.05 | Cide | that's not very logical! |
| 23:23.24 | Shirik | .... |
| 23:23.29 | Cide | ok that one was bad |
| 23:23.34 | wereHamster | .. and we all love if two objects go into each other :) |
| 23:23.49 | Cide | wereHamster: literally? |
| 23:24.31 | wereHamster | I can think of one occasion where that is actually desired.. and is much to our pleasure |
| 23:24.41 | Nolook | sylvanaar: Check the D-Link DIR-655 |
| 23:24.51 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: Are you serious? |
| 23:25.14 | sylvanaar | function fail() return "fail!"..fail() end fail() |
| 23:25.15 | Maldivia | sylvanaar: why do you want to replace your linksys? |
| 23:25.45 | sylvanaar | oh, because it has a poor upnp implementation and my ps3 causes it to lock up |
| 23:26.02 | Maldivia | wrt54* ? |
| 23:26.06 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 23:26.09 | Cidan | upnp is the worst idea ever |
| 23:26.21 | Maldivia | sylvanaar: tried a custom firmware then ? |
| 23:26.22 | sylvanaar | provide a better one |
| 23:26.30 | sylvanaar | i have v8 |
| 23:26.40 | Cidan | Sure, l2forward specific ports |
| 23:26.40 | sylvanaar | it only has 2M of flash |
| 23:26.55 | sylvanaar | lrn2notliveinthe90s |
| 23:27.14 | Cidan | sylvanaar: You're talking about the Linksys 2MB flash one? |
| 23:27.20 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 23:27.25 | Cidan | sylvanaar: The one that I have? |
| 23:27.33 | Cidan | sylvanaar: The one that has ddwrt installed? |
| 23:27.36 | sylvanaar | they have used to have 4MB |
| 23:27.36 | Cidan | ;P |
| 23:27.51 | sylvanaar | i dont want micro ddwrt kthx |
| 23:28.02 | Cidan | lrn2notliveinthe90s |
| 23:28.08 | Cidan | Deal with what you got |
| 23:28.30 | sylvanaar | im buying a new one, and selling me |
| 23:28.48 | Cidan | give micro a shot, chances are it does everything you need it to |
| 23:29.02 | kergoth | upnp is nice for device discovery, but dnssd/rendesvouz/zeroconf works just as well for that |
| 23:29.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:29.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: very serious |
| 23:29.16 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: On live? |
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| 23:29.32 | batrick | i think it's finally fixed |
| 23:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: no, diff realms for the tourney. Only arena brackets up, no instance servers at all |
| 23:29.44 | batrick | sad it was so complicated |
| 23:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | $20 to get access to them and register for the tournet |
| 23:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | *tourney |
| 23:29.50 | batrick | shirik you should go look at it |
| 23:29.53 | Cidan | ehhh |
| 23:29.56 | Cidan | mixed feelings |
| 23:30.16 | Cidan | it might have been better to just make char xfers |
| 23:30.50 | ScytheBlade1 | No, because they're limiting the gear options you have |
| 23:30.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Straight out leveling the playing field |
| 23:33.29 | Cidan | that's kinda silly |
| 23:33.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Considering they're offering a flat $75k to the winners |
| 23:33.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Only to a point |
| 23:33.58 | Cidan | Ah, maybe |
| 23:34.06 | Cidan | But I think Blizzard is maybe... bleh, nevermind |
| 23:35.25 | sylvanaar | actually i want my router to support ipv6 - i know ddwrt micro doesnt have that |
| 23:35.46 | Cidan | sylvanaar: true |
| 23:35.55 | Cidan | actually depends |
| 23:36.24 | sylvanaar | if it did - i would have used it |
| 23:36.28 | Cidan | if you're going to use it as a router for DNS, etc, then yes. |
| 23:36.38 | Cidan | for me, I don't use it as a router, I use it as an AP |
| 23:36.44 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 23:36.58 | Cidan | my router is a full blown linux server |
| 23:37.43 | sylvanaar | yeah - i used to have one before i moved, i bought this linksys out of necessity |
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| 23:38.59 | Cidan | http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/19/rrogdc-xbox-360-failure-shows-up-at-trade-show/ |
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| 23:39.44 | sylvanaar | i just want to replace it with a turn-key product though, with vpn, upnp, and ipv6, guess im going to have to hunt around |
| 23:40.28 | Cidan | just get one of the older ones |
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| 23:40.37 | Cidan | that can do full blown ddwrt |
| 23:40.59 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 23:46.24 | Shirik | pop quiz |
| 23:46.29 | Shirik | Priests: best blue/yellow gem? |
| 23:46.31 | alestane | Well, that's the first time I've ever been referred to as a "Blizzard fan-boy". |
| 23:46.35 | Shirik | (Healing priests) |
| 23:47.10 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: and so it begins! |
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| 23:55.20 | Fin | blue: royal nightseye |
| 23:55.29 | Fin | yellow: that topaz one |
| 23:55.30 | Fin | uhm |
| 23:55.34 | Shirik | .. |
| 23:55.42 | Shirik | what's royal nightseye? |
| 23:55.49 | Fin | luminous noble topaz |
| 23:55.56 | Fin | +9 healing, +2 mp5 |
| 23:56.05 | Shirik | ah yeah, that's the one I was looking at |
| 23:56.12 | Shirik | and then luminous noble topaz is |
| 23:56.16 | Fin | luminous noble topaz or the talasite |
| 23:56.20 | Fin | dazzling talasite I think |
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| 23:56.59 | Fin | +4 int / 2mp5 (talasite) or +9 healing +4 int (topaz) |
| 23:57.06 | Fin | depends on your build |
| 23:57.21 | Fin | but, royal nightseye is what you want wherever you can get it |
| 23:57.45 | Fin | s'what I think anyway |
| 23:58.16 | Shirik | ok here's my problem |
| 23:58.21 | Shirik | I have the primal mooncloth set |
| 23:58.33 | Shirik | I picked up... |
| 23:58.51 | Shirik | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33203 |
| 23:59.01 | Shirik | I'm not sure whether or not I should replace it |
| 23:59.01 | Fin | I filled mine with royal nightseye, one luminous noble topaz, and one dazzling talasite :) |
| 23:59.11 | Fin | yeah, I've seen those |
| 23:59.16 | Fin | they dropped today actually |
| 23:59.21 | Shirik | I already have the primal mooncloth set, so |
| 23:59.25 | Shirik | question is whether or not I break it |
| 23:59.25 | Fin | they're OK, but you should stick with the Primal Mooncloth |
| 23:59.30 | Shirik | that is a hell of a lot of spirit |
| 23:59.39 | Fin | stick them in the bank and wait until you have one or two other pieces to replace the Primal Mooncloth bits with |
| 23:59.47 | Fin | it's not that much really, compared to Primal Mooncloth |
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| 23:59.57 | Fin | I would lose 10.3 mp5, I think if I swapped it |
