| 00:00.20 | Wobin | Cause quite frankly, I can suggest using CF =) |
| 00:01.29 | Maldivia | hmm, can't you just change the font on all fintstrings on the tooltip ? |
| 00:01.48 | Wobin | how do you pick those up? |
| 00:01.58 | Lunessa | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/news/2008/02/21/ncar121.xml |
| 00:01.59 | Wobin | hm aha |
| 00:02.10 | Wobin | GameTooltipText:SetFont(NORMAL_TEXT_FONT, 13 * scale) |
| 00:02.11 | Wobin | GameTooltipTextSmall:SetFont(BOLD_TEXT_FONT, 12 * scale) |
| 00:03.00 | Wobin | Lunessa: dear god |
| 00:03.10 | Wobin | Lunessa: That goes any faster, it'll set itself on fire =P |
| 00:03.21 | Lunessa | Wood is ... sexy. |
| 00:03.33 | Maldivia | perhaps have to enumerate over all regions, don't know if it's enough to do it on Text |
| 00:05.39 | Tuller | how to setup stance configuration... |
| 00:05.49 | Tuller | well design the setup, that is |
| 00:06.18 | Maldivia | Wobin, for instance quick and dirty: for k,v in pairs({GameTooltip:GetRegions()}) do if v:GetObjectType()=="FontString" then v:SetFont(...) end end |
| 00:06.32 | Maldivia | (yes, would be prettier not to make a table, I was lazy) |
| 00:07.38 | Lunessa | Maldivia: that would be fast enough and clean enough for all but the busiest use of the tooltip on the slowest of machines. it's fine. :) |
| 00:08.47 | Maldivia | Lunessa: well, it would be nicer to make a functio and then for i=1, select("#", ...) do local v=select(i,...) if v:GetObjectType().... |
| 00:10.15 | Lunessa | well, yeah. But I was giving Wobin credit for doing something more than using it as a /script macro... |
| 00:10.24 | Maldivia | :) |
| 00:11.48 | Wobin | bah, original requester just edited post: "Decided to not bother you and downloaded ClearFont" =P |
| 00:12.05 | Maldivia | function varforeach(func, ...) for i=i, select("#", ...) do func(select(i, ...)) end varforeach(function(r) if r:GetObjectType() == "FontString" then r:SetFont(...) end end, GameTooltip:GetRegions()) |
| 00:13.27 | Maldivia | add missing end to close the varforeach function :) |
| 00:13.53 | Maldivia | anyway, it's late - night |
| 00:14.21 | Lunessa | Night! |
| 00:15.58 | Wobin | thanks Mal =) |
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| 00:16.56 | Guillotine | I still love the topic |
| 00:21.14 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:21.40 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn rules. |
| 00:26.17 | Guillotine | So does Shirik |
| 00:26.24 | Guillotine | he is a genius |
| 00:27.05 | Shirik | Well I can honestly say I've never heard that one before in this channel |
| 00:27.48 | Nechckn | quick question fellow geekdom dwellers- does anyone, by chance own a laser cutter? |
| 00:28.02 | Guillotine | my friend just ordered one |
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| 00:29.47 | art3mis | well thats creepy |
| 00:29.52 | Nechckn | There are some very interesting applications, just on the home/hobby front. |
| 00:29.55 | art3mis | a 200000$ arena tourney |
| 00:30.50 | Nechckn | who/where art3mis? |
| 00:32.09 | art3mis | the launcher says so |
| 00:32.11 | Shirik | wow |
| 00:32.14 | Shirik | er |
| 00:32.14 | Shirik | WoW |
| 00:33.11 | Nechckn | oh my, I'll have to check that out then. |
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| 00:37.48 | Guillotine | art3mis: you think thats creepy? The person I know thats buying it is looking forward to popping little children's balloons from afar |
| 00:38.19 | Guillotine | Also, I'll ask again in case someone is on that wasn't last night, anybody bought/knows someone that bought http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/9771/ ? |
| 00:38.37 | Thrae|Work | God I hate the Arena so much. It's been so terrible for overall PvP fun. |
| 00:39.28 | Thrae|Work | Guillotine: Yes, one of my bosses just bought one. I also carry around an old Xonix 32MB USB flash drive watch (better style -- hides the USB cable in the wrist band) |
| 00:39.54 | Guillotine | yah, I'd like one that hides the USB cable, but... 2GB>32MB |
| 00:40.26 | kergoth | searing gorge the best spot for small thorium / truesilver? |
| 00:40.34 | Guillotine | no, Winterspring |
| 00:40.34 | kergoth | trying to get my mining from 260 to 300 before i head back to outland |
| 00:40.36 | Guillotine | near the demons |
| 00:40.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:40.41 | Guillotine | south winterspring |
| 00:40.41 | Keias | I've always done |
| 00:40.41 | kergoth | ah, okay, thanks |
| 00:40.52 | Shirik | Guillotine: That's awesome!! |
| 00:41.00 | Shirik | I'm going to have to get one now just to pop balloons too |
| 00:41.04 | Keias | 275ish to 375 in just Burning Steppes |
| 00:41.10 | Keias | Off Rich Thorium |
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| 00:42.21 | Wobin | South WS is all rich thorium |
| 00:42.24 | Thrae|Work | Guillotine: Like I said, it's old |
| 00:42.29 | kergoth | running around grinding my mining skill on this 60 hunter makes me glad i invested in those primal mooncloth bags |
| 00:42.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:43.16 | Thrae|Work | kergoth: My mining was like 200-something before that hacker came in and played my character 24/7 for about a week and a half. Got it up to 373 for me. Thoughtful hacker. |
| 00:43.38 | Guillotine | also, most of the ones I see with a built-in cable are about twice as expensive as the thinkgeek one |
| 00:44.15 | kergoth | Thrae|Work: hahah |
| 00:44.45 | Thrae|Work | kergoth: He sold everything he mined, netting me +900 gold. I spent half of it on a swift mount when I got my account back (with a better password, of course). |
| 00:44.52 | Nechckn | Get one of those usb cables that wind on the wee doo-hickey for your key ring- that way you will have that - and a decently priced memory-watch |
| 00:46.14 | Nechckn | I've gotten them as swag at conventions, but don't know where you could order them. |
| 00:46.36 | Nechckn | I'd search for usb cable and keyring or something like that. |
| 00:46.52 | Thrae|Work | WoW really needs an economy boost -- the AH is so barren these days. |
| 00:47.09 | Guillotine | Nechckn: yah, I have one from a convention as well |
| 00:47.20 | Guillotine | but I need a new watch, so I might as well make it cool |
| 00:47.57 | Guillotine | WTB a watch that is both USB and universal remote :( |
| 00:47.59 | Thrae|Work | Guillotine: My main watch has a playable Starfox game on it. Came from the 1980s. |
| 00:48.07 | Guillotine | haha |
| 00:48.11 | Guillotine | thats awesome |
| 00:48.29 | Thrae|Work | Embedded speaker too, with mono headphone jack |
| 00:48.53 | Elessdy | today. today, i will start playing LoZ:LttP. |
| 00:49.28 | Thrae|Work | Corrodias: There should be a rule that any acronym over four characters should require an explanation. |
| 00:49.38 | Nechckn | Oh no... I don't mean a usb memory stick for your keyring- I mean a usb cable that sort of rolls up for use on whatever- that goes on your keyring. If that makes sense. That way you can buy the watch, without the cable but still be able to use it. |
| 00:49.50 | Corrodias | legend of zelda, link to the past |
| 00:50.21 | Guillotine | Nechckn: if the watch has a standard USB plug on its side at least |
| 00:50.32 | Thrae|Work | Oh, you never played the original? Are you doing Four Swords, Wii ROMs, PC ROMs, or original SNES? |
| 00:51.20 | Corrodias | i haven't decided yet whether to try the Four Swords version (i'd have to check to see if there's any good reason to), but if not, it'll be a SNES ROM |
| 00:51.45 | Thrae|Work | Four Swords is basically the same thing with a little extra content and a special co-op mode |
| 00:52.11 | Thrae|Work | If you have a DS, Four Swords is the way to go...otherwise, SNES ROMs on a PC |
| 00:52.20 | Corrodias | my god, it has been 7 years since zsnes went GPL |
| 00:52.37 | Corrodias | and that was already 8 years after Super Metroid |
| 00:52.46 | Thrae|Work | Heh |
| 00:52.50 | Corrodias | am i allowed to start feeling old at 24? |
| 00:53.25 | Thrae|Work | Corrodias: At least your youth had colour games |
| 00:53.51 | Nechckn | Whenever you have that "oh man, I remember when we..." moment, from that point you can feel old Corrodias =) |
| 00:53.52 | Corrodias | i'm not sure whether the commodore 64, my earliest experience, did |
| 00:54.05 | Corrodias | but i remember nothing of it except that the data came on tapes |
| 00:54.06 | Nechckn | 64 had color |
| 00:54.20 | Nechckn | not sure of specific games though |
| 00:54.22 | Thrae|Work | My first games were text-based Infogramm material played on a casette tape, the Vetrex, and then later games like Rogue (addicting!) |
| 00:54.41 | Corrodias | looks like zsnes dropped the WIP versions and just has regular version releases listed on the files page |
| 00:55.00 | Nechckn | Thrae oh man... I love the text games, those and "Tunnels of Doom" for the TI |
| 00:55.04 | Thrae|Work | Snes9x is better for XP and higher |
| 00:55.18 | Thrae|Work | ZSNES is more for the long-forgotten DOS days and for embedded systems |
| 00:55.39 | Corrodias | there's a windows version of zsnes with windowed filter support and everything |
| 00:55.55 | Thrae|Work | Yeah, but Snes9x always had better support for GDI |
| 00:56.01 | Thrae|Work | And DirectX |
| 00:56.02 | Corrodias | i don't know what GDI is, i'm afraid |
| 00:56.14 | Thrae|Work | GDI == Windows basic drawing API |
| 00:56.20 | Corrodias | but i've not had trouble. i mean, i might check out snes9x, but unless i have a good reason to change, i probably won't |
| 00:58.40 | Shirik | wow |
| 00:58.46 | Shirik | netbeans' SVN support is really nice |
| 00:59.53 | Corrodias | i was impressed by its gui editor, so i'm sticking with it for a while |
| 01:00.04 | Corrodias | i do very little java dev lately |
| 01:00.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone available that has played with models by chance? |
| 01:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | (Specifically, PlayerModel frames) |
| 01:01.01 | Wobin | oh I remember the original Castle Wolfenstein |
| 01:01.07 | Nechckn | blow up or... damn you beat me to it! |
| 01:01.09 | Wobin | that was cool |
| 01:01.20 | Shirik | Does anyone want to look at my code really quick (Java) and tell me why it works? |
| 01:01.27 | Shirik | Because I'm reviewing it right now and I don't think it should work |
| 01:01.30 | Corrodias | i can try |
| 01:02.03 | Shirik | The compiler even gives a warning saying it shouldn't work :P |
| 01:03.20 | Nechckn | Shirik pastey link? |
| 01:03.22 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/82752 |
| 01:03.22 | Corrodias | what's the warning? |
| 01:03.22 | Shirik | line 10 |
| 01:03.28 | Shirik | "Comparing strings using ==" |
| 01:03.28 | Nechckn | hehe nvm =) |
| 01:03.40 | Shirik | md5 comes out of reading a file |
| 01:04.02 | Shirik | data comes from an XML stream |
| 01:04.06 | Corrodias | two possibilities: |
| 01:04.25 | Corrodias | 1) perhaps they've added == string comparison in one of the more recent java versions. i haven't been keeping up with the news and have no idea. |
| 01:05.41 | Corrodias | 2) perhaps the memory locations of the strings actually is equal; that is, perhaps it's saving memory by keeping a list of existing strings and just generating a pointer to the old one when you create the new one. i recall hearing that SOME language or library did that kind of thing, but i have no reason to believe it is Java's String. |
| 01:06.08 | Corrodias | *actually are |
| 01:09.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any way to call DevTools /dump from code? |
| 01:09.21 | Esamynn|Work | == compares pointers in Java, so it's ONLY true if the two are the EXACT SAME object |
| 01:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | This function is returning a string OR a table... when it should only be returning a string. I'm curious what exactly it's returning |
| 01:09.40 | ScytheBlade1 | But it only does it *some* of the time |
| 01:09.41 | Esamynn|Work | it will be false for two objects that are logically identical, but separate copies |
| 01:10.52 | Wobin | ScytheBlade1: yes |
| 01:11.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Wobin: details? |
| 01:11.16 | Wobin | I can't recall precisely, but look in the lua for the function call |
| 01:11.32 | ScytheBlade1 | In which file? ;) |
| 01:12.23 | Esamynn|Work | Corrodias: Lua does that with strings, Java does not, to my knowledge |
| 01:12.50 | Wobin | DevTools_Dump(tmp) |
| 01:12.51 | Wobin | maybe |
| 01:13.02 | Wobin | but in the DevToolsDump.lua |
| 01:15.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Wobin: haha, that's it exactly. Thanks |
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| 01:15.27 | Wobin | np |
| 01:18.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, lol |
| 01:18.18 | ScytheBlade1 | :GetModel() isn't accessible for a PlayerModel that is currently hidden |
| 01:19.00 | ScytheBlade1 | And when it isn't, it just returns self |
| 01:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | For whatever reason |
| 01:19.24 | Buuyo | wow api doesn't allow you to draw arbitrary polygons or custom 3d models on the screen does it? |
| 01:19.41 | ScytheBlade1 | You can if you ship the model with your addon |
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| 01:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | And you have access to DrawRouteLine() |
| 01:21.06 | Buuyo | wowwiki doesnt have a page for that one :( Any other references? |
| 01:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowwiki.com/API and search for DrawRouteLine |
| 01:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It gives you the syntax |
| 01:22.12 | Buuyo | gotcha. |
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| 01:31.05 | Buuyo | ok, how about G15 keyboard. Is it possible for an addon to modify what wow displays for the G15 keyboard's LCD? |
| 01:31.30 | Esamynn|Work | no |
| 01:33.29 | Nechckn | there are addons that have something to do with the buttons- search Curse for G15 |
| 01:33.48 | widger|work | Note that G15Buttons has nothing to do with G15 |
| 01:33.54 | widger|work | And these days, very little to do with buttons. |
| 01:35.02 | Nechckn | there's like 3 of 'em- I don't have a G15, but only know they have something to do with 'em. =) |
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| 01:41.52 | Nechckn | widger|work I see what u mean about those mods... like I said, all I knew is that there were a few with something having to do with that keyboard. So, what, they are just binding mods, that's what it looks like. |
| 01:44.46 | Guillotine | Blender isn't playing very nicely with my cloth simulations :( |
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| 01:57.42 | Lunessa | Guillotine: But will it blend? |
| 01:58.57 | Atriace | I'm trying to learn more about custom function arguments. It would seem to me all you need is something like: function myThing(arg1, arg2) |
| 01:59.22 | Atriace | Then pass arguments elsewhere like so: myThing(purple, apple); |
| 01:59.40 | Atriace | But I'm not having success with that theory. |
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| 02:04.00 | Guillotine | nerf crashes |
| 02:04.16 | Atriace | Hey Guilotine |
| 02:04.24 | Atriace | Know much about custom function arguments? |
| 02:04.48 | Guillotine | how they work or what they are? |
| 02:04.50 | Guillotine | I know how they work |
| 02:05.07 | Guillotine | err, what they are as in I don't remember off-hand all Ace/Stubby functions :P |
| 02:05.27 | Atriace | I'm trying to make a function that accepts a couple arguments, but I can't find the proper documentation in either Pil or WoWWiki |
| 02:05.43 | Atriace | And... yeah... no stubby/ace libs. ;) |
| 02:05.46 | Guillotine | function FuncName(arg1,arg2,arg3) |
| 02:06.02 | Guillotine | essentially the same way you'd call it, but with function before it |
| 02:06.03 | Kivin | --> function foo(a, b, c) print(a, b, c) end f(1, "hello", {"Jello"}) |
| 02:06.04 | batbot | Kivin: @ [string " function foo(a, b, c) print(a, b, c) end ..."]:1: attempt to call global 'f' (a nil value) |
| 02:06.09 | Guillotine | Kivin: fail |
| 02:06.12 | Kivin | --> function foo(a, b, c) print(a, b, c) end foo(1, "hello", {"Jello"}) |
| 02:06.13 | batbot | Kivin: 1 hello table: 0x80f2210 |
| 02:06.19 | Kivin | Guillotine: :( |
| 02:06.48 | Guillotine | Atriace: just take a look at any AddOn |
| 02:06.58 | Atriace | So, when you want to call the function, you'd type: FuncName(Blue, Apple, whatever) right? |
| 02:07.08 | Kivin | Assuming Blue, Apple, and whatever are valid values, yes |
| 02:07.12 | Guillotine | yup |
| 02:07.19 | Guillotine | just make sure its in quotes if its a string |
| 02:07.23 | Atriace | I'm getting nil errors using that method. |
| 02:07.38 | Kivin | Back to pil for oyu |
| 02:07.39 | Kivin | you |
| 02:07.43 | Atriace | heh |
| 02:08.06 | Guillotine | pastey it :) |
| 02:09.15 | Atriace | Mmmm :( |
| 02:09.18 | Atriace | Ok |
| 02:09.31 | Atriace | http://wowi.pastey.net/82759 |
| 02:10.25 | Legorol | Cooking daily: annoying, long distance to travel, fiddly. Pays 8g, non-repeatable. |
| 02:10.27 | Atriace | oh dangit |
| 02:10.34 | Atriace | I forgot to put in the args in that copy/paste |
| 02:10.43 | Legorol | Cutting gems for a sucker late at night: don't need to move out of Shattrath, easy, quick, repeatable. Pays 7g. |
| 02:12.15 | Atriace | Guillotine: http://wowi.pastey.net/82759 |
| 02:12.39 | Guillotine | where are you erroring? |
| 02:12.57 | Atriace | attempt to concatanate arg2. A nil value. |
| 02:13.09 | Atriace | also with arg1 once I get get there. |
| 02:13.18 | Guillotine | you are calling it without args |
| 02:13.21 | Guillotine | so the args are nil |
| 02:13.22 | Atriace | Though, obviously not a concatanation error. |
| 02:13.28 | Guillotine | and you can't concatenate nil |
| 02:13.34 | Legorol | Maybe I may be able to help out here. |
| 02:13.42 | Kivin | You conveniently didn't show where you're calling the function (and thus, where the nils are being passed in) |
| 02:14.01 | Legorol | Atriace: could you find the line in your code where you are *calling* your Sui_Animation function? |
| 02:14.03 | Atriace | Guillotine: this is my function call: Sui_Animation(SUI_Self_ManaBar_Animated,Mana) |
| 02:14.07 | Legorol | what Kivin said |
| 02:14.18 | Guillotine | Atriace: and are both of those valid args? |
| 02:14.21 | Legorol | Atriace: on that line, what's the value of Mana |
| 02:14.40 | Kivin | I'm going to bet they're both nil |
| 02:14.40 | Atriace | Mana isn't a variable, it's the value. |
| 02:14.46 | Kivin | ... |
| 02:14.51 | Legorol | the way you typed it, Mana is a variable |
| 02:14.57 | Atriace | boo |
| 02:14.57 | Legorol | ok, Lua language 101 |
| 02:15.02 | Atriace | lol |
| 02:15.06 | Guillotine | you have to use stuff like GetUnitMana() |
| 02:15.13 | Guillotine | (I think thats it) |
| 02:15.19 | Guillotine | oh, and with the argument "player" |
| 02:15.25 | Atriace | Oh no no no.. I'm not looking for player mana. |
| 02:15.26 | Kivin | UnitMana(unitID) |
| 02:15.28 | Legorol | foo(a) : means call function foo, passing the value of variable a as the argument |
| 02:15.39 | Atriace | Mana is a string. |
| 02:15.40 | Legorol | foo("a") : means call function foo, passing the string "a" as the argument |
| 02:15.45 | Kivin | then make it a string |
| 02:15.50 | Kivin | you're passing variables that don't exist |
| 02:15.54 | Legorol | the way you have written it, Mana is not a string |
| 02:16.00 | Legorol | you are passing the value of a variable named Mana |
| 02:16.02 | Atriace | Oh I see. |
| 02:16.11 | Kivin | A string begins with a quote and ends with a quote |
| 02:16.27 | Kivin | "this is a string", "'so is this'", 'and this', 'and this "too"' |
| 02:16.35 | Guillotine | but not this |
| 02:16.36 | Wobin | [[ And this |
| 02:16.37 | Atriace | I feel stupid. I should've known that. |
| 02:16.39 | Wobin | is one too ]] |
| 02:16.39 | Legorol | Kivin: please be a bit more precise. In Lua, there is no such thing as a "variable that doesn't exist" |
| 02:16.47 | Legorol | Lua has no concept of existing and non-existing variable |
| 02:17.13 | Kivin | Of course there's such thing as a variable that doesn'te xist. If it isn't a valid upvalue and isn't in the global table... It doesn't exist! |
| 02:17.20 | Legorol | not true |
| 02:17.35 | Legorol | as soon as you use it, it exists for all intents and purposes.. its value though is nil |
| 02:17.47 | Legorol | since in Lua you don't define variables, it doesn't make sense to talk about their existence |
| 02:18.17 | Wobin | If a string falls in a forest, and no one is around to nil it... |
| 02:18.30 | Legorol | and, technically speaking, what Atriace was doing is not using a variable that doesn't exist, but referring to an entry in the global environemnt with the key Mana, which has value nil ;-) |
| 02:18.35 | Legorol | lol Wobin |
| 02:19.13 | Kivin | Unless the interpreter creates a variable in memory and gives it a nil value in order to honor the 'variable get' code, it doesn't exist. |
| 02:19.26 | Wobin | Which it does. in Lua |
| 02:19.33 | Kivin | Even if the interpreter does, you're picking my words apart for a technicality |
| 02:19.36 | Legorol | ok Kivin, how about this piece of code: |
| 02:19.42 | Legorol | a = 3; |
| 02:19.43 | Wobin | Kivin: This is the internet |
| 02:19.47 | Wobin | did you expect any less =) |
| 02:19.49 | Legorol | does a "exist" according to your definition? |
| 02:19.55 | Kivin | yes |
| 02:19.57 | Legorol | the answer is, no, it didn't create a variable in memory |
| 02:20.02 | Legorol | it added a new entry in the global environment |
| 02:20.28 | Legorol | what the compiler and the interpreter has done is identical to: |
| 02:20.32 | Legorol | t = {}; t.a = 3; |
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| 02:20.48 | Legorol | a = 3; and t.a = 3; will generate almost identical code, except they refer to two different tables |
| 02:21.12 | Atriace | Problem fixed. Thanks a bundle guys. |
| 02:21.16 | Legorol | as for local variables: they do get created on the stack as soon as you define them as local |
| 02:21.32 | Legorol | so in that sense they exist |
| 02:22.13 | Legorol | shall we split more hairs? ;D |
| 02:22.54 | Legorol | one last thought: the reason why it doesn't make sense to talk about the existance or nonexistance of variables is that you can't write a piece of Lua code that will determine if a variable doesn't exist, or it exists but has been set to nil |
| 02:23.20 | |pez| | The music video for Lady Marmalade is quite cool, and... old. |
| 02:23.23 | Legorol | so it doesn't matter how the interpreter or the compiler is implemented |
| 02:34.32 | Esamynn|Work | Legorol: actually, the entry in the global table, probably DOESN'T exist, at which point Lua gives you back nil anyways :P |
| 02:36.13 | Esamynn|Work | Legorol: and, you CAN determine if a function returned a value or not (the ability to do this may be considered a bug, but you can still do it!) 8) |
| 02:36.29 | Esamynn|Work | sorry, I couldn't help myself |
| 02:36.31 | MentalPower | yes, but you can't do that for tables (from Lua) |
| 02:36.37 | Esamynn|Work | true |
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| 02:36.45 | MentalPower | you can do it from C tho (I think) |
| 02:36.51 | Esamynn|Work | hell yah |
| 02:38.53 | Legorol | Esamynn|Work: you can only do it because of poor implementation of type |
| 02:39.03 | Legorol | it's been discussed before if type should behave the way it does |
| 02:39.12 | Esamynn|Work | "(the ability to do this may be considered a bug, but you can still do it!)" |
| 02:39.29 | Legorol | i guess the interesting question now is what happens to this: |
| 02:39.51 | Legorol | function f() return NonexistantVariable; end type(f()) |
| 02:39.55 | Legorol | i'll go try that ^^ |
| 02:40.35 | Legorol | as i thought, that doesn't cause type to error |
| 02:40.47 | Legorol | so doesn't work for determining if NonexistantVariable exists or not :/ |
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| 02:41.48 | Legorol | Esamynn|Work: actually, it's not just "could be considered a bug", but actually, according to the language definition in the 5.1 manual, it is a bug |
| 02:43.23 | MentalPower | lua> function f() end return type(f()) |
| 02:43.24 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'type' (value expected) |
| 02:43.39 | MentalPower | lua> function f() return nothingToSeeHere end return type(f()) |
| 02:43.40 | lua_bot | MentalPower: nil |
| 02:43.53 | JoshBorke | yay supremus down, explaining akama fight |
| 02:44.20 | Esamynn|Work | Legorol: that works because the return asks the global table for a value |
| 02:44.28 | Legorol | exactly |
| 02:44.35 | Legorol | and now that i checked the Lua manual, i was wrong |
| 02:44.42 | Legorol | it's not a bug, it's just poor implementation of type |
| 02:45.27 | widger|work | That's like the third time I've seen this conversation recently. |
| 02:45.31 | Esamynn|Work | http://www.xkcd.com/386/ <-- this SO applies to this conversation! ;) |
| 02:45.37 | JoshBorke | who's this widger person? |
| 02:45.47 | Esamynn|Work | JoshBorke: some random gnome |
| 02:46.05 | widger|work | ^_^ |
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| 02:46.27 | widger|work | ~whaleparry Esamynn|Work |
| 02:46.28 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Esamynn|Work's attacks. |
| 02:46.40 | Esamynn|Work | ~bzfrag widger|work |
| 02:46.41 | purl | ACTION destroys widger|work with a guided missile |
| 02:46.57 | widger|work | ~lart Esamynn|Work |
| 02:46.57 | purl | whacks Esamynn|Work with a giant beaver's tail |
| 02:47.15 | Esamynn|Work | widger|work: lol, using lart in a bot war is the equivalent of giving up! :P |
| 02:47.29 | Esamynn|Work | ~whalenuke widger|work |
| 02:47.29 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around widger|work with his mind powers. |
| 02:47.32 | JoshBorke | ~whalenuke everyone |
| 02:47.32 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around everyone with his mind powers. |
| 02:47.35 | JoshBorke | damnit Esamynn|Work |
| 02:47.37 | widger|work | Pfft, I don't even have a bot authorization of force |
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| 02:47.42 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleshield me |
| 02:47.46 | kd3 | lua> 10.69-3.70 |
| 02:47.46 | lua_bot | kd3: 6.99 |
| 02:47.51 | widger|work | How could I have a bot war? |
| 02:47.51 | Esamynn|Work | ~whaleshield |
| 02:47.52 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield esamynn|work from the blast. |
| 02:49.45 | Esamynn|Work | JoshBorke: problem? 8) |
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| 02:50.38 | Esamynn|Work | widger|work: admit it, you've been pwnd |
| 02:51.20 | Shirik | > 4 |
| 02:51.55 | widger|work | Congratulations, you have defeated me by means of my own indifference. |
| 02:51.57 | widger|work | That's so amazing for you. |
| 02:52.06 | widger|work | Have some cake. |
| 02:52.28 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart widger|work |
| 02:52.28 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to widger|work, and goes postal |
| 02:53.04 | Esamynn|Work | nice |
| 02:56.24 | Wobin | don't believe widger |
| 02:56.27 | Wobin | The cake is a lie =( |
| 02:56.42 | Kivin | !pie |
| 02:56.44 | Legorol | damn, i'm too used to WoW's editbox |
| 02:56.53 | Legorol | i started typing a sentence, than i pressed Esc to try and erase it |
| 02:56.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:57.00 | Legorol | *then |
| 02:57.01 | kd3 | lol |
| 02:58.07 | Wobin | ~cake |
| 02:58.08 | purl | the cake is a lie! |
| 02:58.18 | Wobin | Legorol: I do that -all- the time |
| 02:58.32 | Esamynn|Work | lol Legorol |
| 03:03.01 | batrick | --> a = " hi\\nnewline" return a |
| 03:03.03 | batbot | batrick: > hi\nnewline |
| 03:03.33 | batrick | anyway you can figure out if a function returns values using select( |
| 03:03.35 | batrick | ) |
| 03:04.09 | Esamynn|Work | true |
| 03:05.29 | Nechckn | http://www.instructables.com/id/Laser-Cut-Cake!!!/ mmm... cake! |
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| 03:11.51 | Seerah | lol - headline on Yahoo - "Scientists send fish into space to study motion sickness" |
| 03:13.13 | Lopeppeppy | Poor fishes. |
| 03:13.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Crazy scientists |
| 03:13.52 | Gngsk | what's the wowi site with the framexml diffs? |
| 03:15.18 | haste | http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 03:17.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, how do you count the number of entries in a table again? |
| 03:17.35 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the function? |
| 03:18.18 | Wobin | #? |
| 03:18.26 | Wobin | if it's numerically indexed |
| 03:18.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It isn't |
| 03:18.38 | Wobin | then a for loop is all you can do |
| 03:19.30 | Wobin | or a foreach, really |
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| 03:22.11 | MentalPower | foreach be deprecated |
| 03:22.46 | MentalPower | local i = 0 for k in pairs(someTable) do i=i+1 end print(i) |
| 03:22.56 | MentalPower | lua> local i = 0 for k in pairs(_G) do i=i+1 end print(i) |
| 03:22.57 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 37 |
| 03:23.42 | MentalPower | actually, foreach should not even be present in Lua 5.1 |
| 03:23.47 | Wobin | s'true |
| 03:23.50 | Wobin | well it might |
| 03:23.50 | MentalPower | lua> return foreach |
| 03:23.50 | lua_bot | MentalPower: nil |
| 03:23.53 | Wobin | tada |
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| 03:30.16 | art3mis | http://wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/antigoldselling.html |
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| 03:44.27 | Corrodias | raid's over! leo to 8%, gear to 45%. |
| 03:44.44 | Wobin | that's a win for me =) |
| 03:44.51 | Wobin | better than the other way around |
| 03:45.19 | Corrodias | true |
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| 04:03.31 | Shirik | =( |
| 04:03.34 | Shirik | I have to restart my computer |
| 04:03.40 | Shirik | I can't do solarian like this |
| 04:03.46 | Shirik | free space: (C:) 2.64/58.59 - (D:) 115.04/236.72 - (total: 117.68/295.31 GB) |
| 04:03.50 | Shirik | whoops |
| 04:03.50 | Shirik | wrong one |
| 04:03.52 | Shirik | uptime: 2w 3d 5h 18m 7s |
| 04:03.56 | Shirik | oh well, new record |
| 04:03.57 | Shirik | I'm happy |
| 04:19.41 | Wobin | rofl |
| 04:19.42 | Wobin | http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cardboard-kevin-sparks-house-uproar/2008/02/22/1203467349710.html |
| 04:19.47 | Wobin | \o/ |
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| 04:22.21 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 04:24.33 | art3mis | uptime(win2k): win(4d 19h 57m 16s) serv(21h 34m 8s) today(2d 23h 22m 30s) xirc(21h 36m 44s) best(4d 19h 57m 4s) |
| 04:24.44 | art3mis | neat |
| 04:27.22 | xlvii | art3mis, that's not that much :P |
| 04:27.42 | xlvii | i have a box that's been up for 32 weeks. |
| 04:27.43 | xlvii | :P |
| 04:31.13 | art3mis | i know |
| 04:31.21 | art3mis | i was saying neat that the client had the command built in ;P |
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| 04:35.07 | art3mis | longest uptime ive seen was almost 5 years |
| 04:35.19 | art3mis | running slackware 1.2.13 ;P |
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| 04:42.44 | kd3 | oh wow. they put us in phase 4 already on PvE |
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| 04:51.38 | batrick | cladhaire: ping |
| 04:52.29 | art3mis | phase4? |
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| 04:56.48 | kd3 | recovering the harbor. http://www.wowwiki.com/Shattered_Sun_Offensive#Quests |
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| 05:08.40 | art3mis | watches scytheblade swear at his CFOS as it fails to work numerous times because of a single bad mount line |
| 05:09.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll actually be installing it directly onto the CF card via PXE |
| 05:10.00 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:10.27 | ScytheBlade1 | So, not too worried about that ;) |
| 05:10.39 | art3mis | its openbsd though |
| 05:10.45 | art3mis | there will be swearing |
| 05:10.48 | art3mis | its inevitable |
| 05:10.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I installed it in VMWare effortlessly |
| 05:11.01 | art3mis | then you did it wrong ;P |
| 05:11.04 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 05:11.30 | art3mis | rule 4 of OpenBSD is Thou shalt take Theo's name in vain at least 4 times during the install. |
| 05:12.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I believe it |
| 05:12.24 | art3mis | rule 5 is a corrolary |
| 05:12.37 | art3mis | that you'll then swear 6 more times at it's "security features" |
| 05:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I've actually enjoyed them thus far |
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| 05:13.41 | art3mis | there's something wrong with you that the doctors cant pinpoint isnt there |
| 05:13.57 | ScytheBlade1 | In all honesty, yes ;P |
| 05:14.00 | art3mis | this movie 10000BC bugs me for some reason |
| 05:14.14 | art3mis | im not sure if its because they have an advanced civ there |
| 05:14.26 | art3mis | or that mammoths and sabretoothes exist |
| 05:14.52 | art3mis | yer in the wrong business if you get free trial drugs ;P |
| 05:15.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Free? Noooo |
| 05:15.21 | art3mis | oh you should call pfizer ;P |
| 05:15.45 | art3mis | or johnson and johnson |
| 05:15.48 | art3mis | for trial stuffs you can get super special deals on cost |
| 05:16.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Pass |
| 05:16.24 | ScytheBlade1 | But in all honesty, what I've seen from OpenBSD thus far, I've really liked |
| 05:16.37 | art3mis | it is nice |
| 05:16.45 | art3mis | i like freebsd a tad more though |
| 05:16.54 | art3mis | and netbsd on my toaster is awesome |
| 05:16.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 05:17.24 | ScytheBlade1 | http://soekris.com/Pictures/net4521_top.jpg <-- my router, currently running linux, will be running openbsd soonish |
| 05:19.40 | art3mis | just "cuz you can"? |
| 05:19.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Sick of maintaining the distro, heh |
| 05:20.01 | art3mis | heh |
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| 05:24.09 | art3mis | be kind rewind looks funny |
| 05:24.16 | Duman | anyone here use Recap much? |
| 05:24.22 | Duman | it's arguing w/ my tooltip scale |
| 05:24.34 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4823643175 |
| 05:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ xkcd |
| 05:24.45 | Duman | I mean, I can hack it up and "fix" it... |
| 05:24.54 | ScytheBlade1 | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 05:24.59 | art3mis | scythe ya know whats sad about xkcd? |
| 05:25.04 | art3mis | we've ALL done that |
| 05:25.06 | Duman | lol @ the mouseover |
| 05:25.25 | art3mis | cuz we're horrible nerds ;P |
| 05:25.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Every other weekday, someone says "lol @ xkcd" - right around now? |
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| 05:26.19 | art3mis | no i was talking about the previous one on someone being wrong on the itnernet |
| 05:26.27 | art3mis | didnt realize there was a new one |
| 05:26.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 05:33.38 | Atriace | Is there a reason why when passing arguments to a function twice, only one set of arguments are processed by the function? |
| 05:35.26 | Atriace | It's really weird because the moment I switch the order in which the function gets called, the first one in the list is the only one processed. |
| 05:36.15 | Iriel | You probably did something strange in your code |
| 05:37.10 | art3mis | very little is funnier than watching a fury warr defend his spec |
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| 05:45.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any way to rotate a model along the Z axis? I don't mean move, mind you, but rotate |
| 05:47.00 | Wobin | Atriace: chances are you're calling the function with object.function(arg) instead of object:function(arg) |
| 05:47.13 | art3mis | aside from flying and swimming flips no |
| 05:47.29 | art3mis | technically the Z is visible or modifyable |
| 05:47.45 | art3mis | isnt |
| 05:47.53 | ScytheBlade1 | The in-game default model for dragons ("dragon.m2") has them placed on an incline |
| 05:47.54 | art3mis | not without haxxoring anyways |
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| 05:48.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to straighten that incline out :/ |
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| 05:48.23 | art3mis | you'd have to mpq hack |
| 05:48.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to do this through scripting ;P |
| 05:48.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But that answers that |
| 05:48.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 05:50.39 | |Jelly|zZz | ~hug Shirik |
| 05:50.51 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik |
| 05:50.52 | Shirik | rawr |
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| 06:03.19 | |Jelly| | ~hug Syli |
| 06:03.19 | purl | ACTION jumps into Syli's lap and huggles and *hugs* Syli |
| 06:03.28 | Syli | Er, hi |
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| 06:04.33 | |Jelly| | ~whalestab Shirik |
| 06:04.34 | purl | ACTION stabs Shirik with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 06:04.38 | Shirik | :< |
| 06:07.55 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 06:07.59 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 18/43/0 vs 20/41/0; Jelly wins by 31 TBRs! |
| 06:08.05 | |Jelly| | ooooooooooooooo |
| 06:08.06 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:08.07 | Shirik | close |
| 06:08.12 | |Jelly| | I see you went back fail spec too. |
| 06:08.23 | Shirik | I go back and forth weekly |
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| 06:08.46 | |Jelly| | me too. i think i'm one of the /very few/ that does in my guild |
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| 06:13.45 | |Jelly| | A shaman just got offended in my group because I'm not surprised at all that he didn't have an ankh. :-\ |
| 06:14.26 | Lukian | |Jelly|, hahaha |
| 06:14.33 | Lukian | I've started carrying two stacks on my shaman |
| 06:14.34 | |Jelly| | [P] <Jelly>: It means shammies with ankhs are somewhat like warrior tanks- there are stories of them but no one's ever actually seen one. :P |
| 06:14.38 | Lukian | I always forget to restock |
| 06:15.11 | |Jelly| | DL Freerefills! |
| 06:15.32 | Lukian | I don't talk to reagent vendors on my shaman :p |
| 06:15.33 | Lukian | haha |
| 06:22.29 | |Jelly| | Grenedael rolls 95 (1-100) |
| 06:22.30 | |Jelly| | Jelly rolls 97 (1-100) |
| 06:22.32 | |Jelly| | ownt |
| 06:24.58 | Shirik | ~rikk |
| 06:24.59 | Shirik | ~roll |
| 06:25.00 | purl | A program for rolling complex dice combinations. URL: http://electricrain.com/epos_6/downloads.html |
| 06:25.04 | Shirik | .... |
| 06:25.08 | Shirik | are you serious |
| 06:26.34 | Shirik | --> roll = function(lo, hi) if not low and not hi then lo, hi = 1, 100 else if not hi then lo, hi = 1, lo; end assert(type(lo) == 'number' and type(hi) == 'number); return math.random(lo, hi) end |
| 06:26.35 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " roll = function(lo, hi) if not low and not hi then lo, hi = 1,..."]:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 06:26.41 | Shirik | --> roll = function(lo, hi) if not low and not hi then lo, hi = 1, 100 else if not hi then lo, hi = 1, lo; end assert(type(lo) == 'number' and type(hi) == 'number'); return math.random(lo, hi) end |
| 06:26.42 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " roll = function(lo, hi) if not low and not hi then lo, hi = 1,..."]:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 06:26.53 | Shirik | --> roll = function(lo, hi) if not low and not hi then lo, hi = 1, 100 elseif not hi then lo, hi = 1, lo; end assert(type(lo) == 'number' and type(hi) == 'number'); return math.random(lo, hi) end |
| 06:26.59 | Shirik | --> roll(1,100) |
| 06:27.00 | batbot | Shirik: > 38 |
| 06:27.06 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:28.16 | Cairenn | fiddle - does anyone recall which font it was that was considered to be the closest to the the Blizz custom default font? |
| 06:30.40 | Keias | was it Morpheus? |
| 06:31.07 | Cairenn | was it? |
| 06:31.32 | Cairenn | hrm, why am I not seeing it |
| 06:31.45 | Cairenn | thought I'd installed it |
| 06:33.11 | Keias | Seems to be a pain to google |
| 06:33.22 | Keias | Too many imitations :( |
| 06:33.44 | Cairenn | hrm, looking at morpheus now, doesn't look like it's the right one |
| 06:33.49 | Cairenn | http://www.dafont.com/morpheus.font |
| 06:34.02 | Keias | hrm |
| 06:35.12 | Shirik | That seems to be the mail font |
| 06:35.21 | Cairenn | think I've got it |
| 06:35.43 | Cairenn | http://vnboards.ign.com/WoW_General_Board/b19789/80974992/?16 |
| 06:36.26 | Cairenn | so both Morpheus & Folkard |
| 06:37.29 | Cairenn | thanks Keias, you got me on the right track |
| 06:38.03 | Keias | I try |
| 06:38.25 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:38.45 | |Jelly| | what ui are we looking at? |
| 06:39.42 | Shirik | rofl, I love pandor |
| 06:39.51 | Shirik | I told it to look at a song, and it says |
| 06:40.12 | Shirik | "Okay, to start things off, we'll play music like it, featuring these qualities _____________" and then continued with "Why we're not playing cliffs of dover" typical stuff |
| 06:40.30 | Shirik | So I minimize it and go back to doing what I was doing, and then I'm like "this sounds a lot like cliffs of dover" open it back up and it is >.> |
| 06:40.37 | Shirik | tsk tsk, breaking their license |
| 06:42.50 | Wobin | ~rickroll |
| 06:42.51 | purl | from memory, rickroll is http://www.internetisseriousbusiness.com |
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| 06:45.40 | |Jelly| | I just got accused of having roll hacks. :( |
| 06:45.51 | Guillotine | lol |
| 06:46.20 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o dolby-wowi] by ChanServ |
| 06:49.12 | Buuyo | roll is server-side isnt it? =o |
| 06:49.30 | kd3 | yes. there's a long blue post about how it works |
| 06:49.31 | Buuyo | cuz dayum if not xD |
| 06:49.48 | Buuyo | Another game I used to play used to have /dice client-side xD |
| 06:50.02 | |Jelly| | kd3: link imo. I just wanna read it. :) |
| 06:50.15 | Buuyo | the data stream wasn't encrypted or anything, so packet hackers could just continue to send the "roll a 6" packet xD |
| 06:50.59 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10271177&sid=1 |
| 06:51.01 | Shirik | beauty |
| 06:51.23 | Shirik | Buuyo: That's almost as bad as a problem I found in a game I GMed al ong time ago |
| 06:51.35 | Shirik | there was a voting system for the 5 leaders of the race |
| 06:51.47 | Shirik | Client-side, it checked to see if you voted more than once |
| 06:51.52 | Shirik | server-side .... it didn't |
| 06:51.55 | Buuyo | heh |
| 06:52.06 | Shirik | So I was able to elect myself once (on a test server, of course) all by myself |
| 06:52.14 | Shirik | So I informed the company, a month later they had the fix |
| 06:52.16 | Shirik | and it kinda worked |
| 06:52.23 | Shirik | Until I deleted the character and made a new one |
| 06:52.25 | Shirik | then it let me vote again |
| 06:52.31 | Shirik | then deleted the character and made a new one |
| 06:52.33 | Shirik | and again |
| 06:52.44 | Shirik | And the worst part is you weren't even supposed to be able to vote until level 30 |
| 06:52.49 | Shirik | and I was voting as a level 1 |
| 06:52.53 | Shirik | *headdesk* |
| 06:52.56 | Buuyo | yeah, some people don't put much consideration in to these things. xD |
| 06:53.08 | Buuyo | Thankfully the /dice rolling in the game i was referring to wasn't really used for anything but people just rolling dice to play games themselves |
| 06:53.20 | Shirik | yeah this was a bit more serious :P |
| 06:53.21 | Buuyo | it's not like you'd /dice for gear drops since it wasn't that complicated a game. =p |
| 06:53.35 | Buuyo | But the game itsself was vulnerable to a number of duping bugs |
| 06:53.56 | Buuyo | because the programmers themselves didnt take in to consideration packet injection or third party clients. :) |
| 06:54.47 | Buuyo | Stupid little things that should have been account for |
| 06:55.00 | Buuyo | and dont even get me started on race conditions. It's like they didnt know what they were. ;) |
| 06:56.12 | Shirik | oh |
| 06:56.14 | Shirik | there was this other cool bug |
| 06:56.32 | Shirik | see, in this game, upgrades (basically enchants) had a chance ot fail (a pretty high chance actually) |
| 06:56.40 | Shirik | funny thing is, every time someone succeeded on their 6th enchant |
| 06:56.42 | Shirik | the entire race disconnects |
| 06:56.47 | Shirik | it was awesome |
| 06:56.50 | Buuyo | heh |
| 06:56.52 | Shirik | actually the entire race crashes, not disconnects |
| 06:57.18 | Shirik | for a year it went unnoticed because nobody ever got that much |
| 06:57.34 | Shirik | then they made the cash shop which essentially has an item that nearly guarantees a 6-talic upgrade |
| 06:57.40 | Shirik | that wasn't so fun |
| 06:58.07 | Shirik | But by far, the best part |
| 06:58.23 | Shirik | was when one of the race leaders (whom, btw, have the ability to message the entire server in a special color chat that is no different from GM chat) |
| 06:58.32 | Shirik | decided to transmit a packet by forging the name of the person who sent it |
| 06:58.40 | Shirik | because, you know, the packet totally needs to say who sent the message |
| 06:58.43 | Shirik | >.> |
| 06:58.59 | Buuyo | heh |
| 06:59.00 | Shirik | So there's an inside joke in a lot of people's signatures on the forums "GM-Dave: Hai friends!" |
| 06:59.14 | |Jelly| | [P] <Easye>: ima keep that last shard btw |
| 06:59.16 | |Jelly| | [P] <Easye>: think of it as a DE tax |
| 06:59.25 | Shirik | rofl |
| 06:59.55 | Shirik | anyone here good with openssl? |
| 06:59.59 | Shirik | or public keys in general? |
| 07:00.05 | Shirik | I know Iriel is... |
| 07:00.15 | Buuyo | the game I had before had the whole chat message including sender in text sent to the server. The packet would send like "CharacterName : message goes here" and before it got fixed to parse the string given, a lot of people got a lot of other people suspended or banned from the game for harassment and flooding. |
| 07:00.54 | Shirik | Buuyo: that's exactly what it was like |
| 07:01.11 | Shirik | so you just modify the part before the : |
| 07:01.16 | Buuyo | the game you were playing wasn't Ragnarok Online was it? =p |
| 07:01.20 | Shirik | negative |
| 07:01.25 | Buuyo | heh ok =) |
| 07:01.33 | Shirik | what kind of voting is there in RO? |
| 07:01.35 | Shirik | (Never played) |
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| 07:02.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:02.29 | Shirik | I crack myself up: private byte[] PUBLIC_KEY; |
| 07:02.45 | Shirik | // It's a private public key! |
| 07:02.46 | kd3 | har |
| 07:04.02 | Buuyo | There's not a lot of voting in RO. But you never know what could happen on a private server, what with all the reverse engineers that have messed with the client. =p (More people played private servers on that game than the official ones) |
| 07:04.20 | Buuyo | kind of sad |
| 07:05.12 | Shirik | I know that very well :) |
| 07:05.28 | Shirik | I GMed for the game's public server, and I have dealt with tons of people advertising the millions of private servers |
| 07:05.35 | Shirik | And I know the overwhelming majority play on private servers |
| 07:05.40 | Shirik | mostly because the company running the game is horrible |
| 07:06.23 | Buuyo | The sad part about RO was that most of the good stuff was happening outside of official servers. Small staff in Korea pumps out the servers and client and the north american company running it is 4 guys who basically just manage updates. :( |
| 07:06.32 | oreth | SHirik, sup duder? |
| 07:06.43 | Shirik | what, about the openssl? |
| 07:09.08 | |Jelly| | one for the road |
| 07:09.15 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Baldor_work (n=vantienh@rem-77-128.remote.eur.nl) |
| 07:09.16 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 07:09.21 | WoWLuaircBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 18/43/0 vs 42/19/0; Kimina wins by 330 TBRs! |
| 07:09.36 | |Jelly| | my dreams. gone. |
| 07:09.43 | Shirik | ?? |
| 07:09.45 | Shirik | what changed? |
| 07:09.50 | Shirik | oh heh |
| 07:09.51 | Shirik | it updated my spec |
| 07:09.56 | |Jelly| | i hope you're happy, shirik. |
| 07:10.01 | Shirik | I am |
| 07:10.02 | Shirik | very. |
| 07:10.02 | Shirik | :D |
| 07:10.03 | |Jelly| | ...i also hope you fall in a well. |
| 07:10.05 | Shirik | fyi |
| 07:10.12 | Shirik | Best days for you to fight me are tuesday-thursday |
| 07:10.20 | Shirik | tuesday evening I switch to holy, thursday evening I switch to disc |
| 07:10.23 | Shirik | (on average) |
| 07:10.36 | |Jelly| | my guild needs to get their shit straight before i have a good calendar to give you to beat me on. |
| 07:10.43 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:10.54 | |Jelly| | i still think i'd own your face off irl! |
| 07:11.07 | Shirik | probably |
| 07:11.09 | oreth | oh man |
| 07:11.10 | |Jelly| | TBRs are for women and lesser ... i dunno ... players? |
| 07:11.53 | oreth | geeks talking about physically demolishing other geeks in real life |
| 07:11.53 | Shirik | Cairenn will kill me for that |
| 07:11.53 | |Jelly| | It's kind of funny how ... not geeky I am iRL. |
| 07:11.56 | oreth | "YEAH?! WELL MY POWER LEVELS WILL BE OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAND!" |
| 07:12.01 | |Jelly| | But I was talking more in game and not in IRC anyway. |
| 07:12.04 | Shirik | I don't think I am, but I'm kinda biased |
| 07:12.12 | Shirik | people tell me I code too much, and I'll admit that |
| 07:12.18 | Shirik | but I don't act like.... |
| 07:12.26 | oreth | embrace your inner-geek |
| 07:12.27 | Shirik | I dunno, the guy you see in cartoons or whatever |
| 07:12.34 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Shirik!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 07:12.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shirik (n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 07:12.35 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 07:12.41 | Shirik | meh |
| 07:12.43 | Shirik | autorejoin ftw |
| 07:12.51 | |Jelly| | Well, the closest people that know me iRL in this room are Kamdis, Peppy, Lunessa and Syli; none of which have actually ever met me. |
| 07:12.54 | |Jelly| | owned |
| 07:12.59 | |Jelly| | I MEAN |
| 07:13.00 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.01 | |Jelly| | ~hug Cairenn |
| 07:13.02 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 07:13.05 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 07:13.08 | Shirik | eh |
| 07:13.12 | Shirik | it's +b %Shirik |
| 07:13.17 | Cairenn | heh, whatever |
| 07:13.18 | Shirik | unless your client does something strange |
| 07:13.30 | Cairenn | it's pidgin, it does lots of weird things |
| 07:13.35 | Shirik | I actually learned that today believe it or not |
| 07:13.51 | oreth | gtk for the lose |
| 07:13.52 | Shirik | was talking to someone in #freenode and he got q'ed |
| 07:13.57 | Shirik | and I'm like "what is that %" and they told me |
| 07:13.58 | oreth | Qt on the other hand... |
| 07:14.34 | Cairenn | yeah, it is an individual +m, instead of the whole channel |
| 07:14.56 | Shirik | when I had to do that in the past I just +b |
| 07:14.58 | Shirik | and not kick |
| 07:15.03 | Shirik | since +b also forces a mute :) |
| 07:15.13 | Shirik | problem is they can't rejoin later |
| 07:15.31 | |Jelly| | Ok guys. Lurve you all but I has to sleep! |
| 07:15.35 | Shirik | it's a nice feature they added |
| 07:15.38 | Shirik | <3 |Jelly| |
| 07:15.41 | Shirik | better luck next time |
| 07:15.44 | Cairenn | which is why this is a better option, if you're just trying to make a point without throwing them out completely |
| 07:15.49 | Cairenn | night |Jelly|zZz, sweet dreams |
| 07:15.51 | |Jelly|zZz | Shirik: die |
| 07:16.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait jelly |
| 07:16.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | one more thing |
| 07:17.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5671/1203348653772od2.jpg |
| 07:17.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | sweet dreamd |
| 07:17.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | s |
| 07:17.38 | |Jelly|zZz | http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Guides.Detail&id=221 |
| 07:17.44 | |Jelly|zZz | k night |
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| 07:19.00 | oreth | guys, |
| 07:19.04 | oreth | the wow forums are ridiculous |
| 07:19.06 | Corrodias | well, i've completed the advanced maps in Portal |
| 07:19.15 | oreth | they are so absurd they are hilarious |
| 07:19.20 | Cairenn | oreth: you're just figuring this out now? |
| 07:19.24 | oreth | Corrodias: time to move on to AudioSurf |
| 07:19.57 | Corrodias | i think i crave something with a good story to it |
| 07:20.13 | oreth | Corrodias: hrm... Bioshock? |
| 07:20.16 | oreth | Mass Effect? |
| 07:20.33 | Corrodias | my computer can't quite handle bioshock |
| 07:20.53 | Corrodias | not with the settings turned up to high, at least, and the whole effect is ruined if they're not |
| 07:21.01 | Buuyo | i bought crysis the other day to discover that my video card, although it meets the recommended requirements, doesn't show anything right at all xD |
| 07:21.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | the 360's got a lot of good pc ports if you've got an hdtv or decent sized monitor |
| 07:21.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i.e. bioshock, call of duty 4, etc |
| 07:21.51 | oreth | or |
| 07:21.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably cheaper than outfitting a new pc |
| 07:21.54 | oreth | for the developer in you |
| 07:22.02 | oreth | they just announced Community games for the XBOX |
| 07:22.11 | Corrodias | call of duty 4... hmm, i should explore what that is |
| 07:22.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, XNA's going to be fantastic |
| 07:22.12 | oreth | grab the XNA sdk and get crackin' |
| 07:22.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | did you play dishwasher, oreth? |
| 07:22.26 | Corrodias | oh, duh! Paper Mario. i ought to go and finally play that sucker. |
| 07:22.27 | oreth | Mr_Rabies: I've wanted a 360 for a long time |
| 07:22.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i played the demo for like, forever |
| 07:22.39 | oreth | but that has more than sealed it for me |
| 07:22.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | today |
| 07:22.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, 5 times through |
| 07:22.46 | oreth | is it a 360 game? |
| 07:22.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's an XNA demo |
| 07:22.53 | Corrodias | no, it's a job |
| 07:22.54 | Corrodias | oh |
| 07:23.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | for 360 atm |
| 07:23.06 | oreth | i don't have one :( |
| 07:23.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it'll be easily ported to windows and zune likely |
| 07:23.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh ok |
| 07:23.12 | oreth | a 360, not a job |
| 07:23.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme find a video of it |
| 07:23.18 | oreth | i have a job |
| 07:23.24 | oreth | and I love it |
| 07:24.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=6CCjhdiRmrM |
| 07:25.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it plays like a combination of like, madness interactive or metal slug, and devil may cry |
| 07:25.45 | oreth | oh god |
| 07:25.50 | oreth | is 2D making a come-back? |
| 07:26.03 | oreth | because that would be so very \m/ |
| 07:26.24 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 07:26.25 | oreth | I miss the days of "beat my highscore, bitch" |
| 07:26.35 | oreth | and twitch gaming |
| 07:26.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's alive and kicking on the xbla |
| 07:26.49 | oreth | which is why audiosurf is my current drug of choice |
| 07:26.58 | oreth | i -hate- world of warcraft |
| 07:27.09 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:27.25 | oreth | really.. there's nothing interesting anymore |
| 07:27.32 | oreth | i sign on "Knikon come run us through stuff" |
| 07:27.35 | oreth | bleh |
| 07:27.58 | oreth | I love games that are personal challengs |
| 07:28.10 | oreth | i picked up "Stuntman" for PS2 a few weewks ago for $4 bucks |
| 07:28.16 | oreth | it's a bitch of a game... |
| 07:28.28 | oreth | but I definitely got more than my money's worth |
| 07:28.46 | oreth | also picked up the original DMC |
| 07:33.57 | Wobin | hm |
| 07:34.01 | Wobin | XNA reminds me of http://www.selectparks.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=442 |
| 07:34.11 | Wobin | Pirate Baby's Cabana Battle Street Fight 2006! |
| 07:35.32 | oreth | no no |
| 07:35.43 | oreth | XNA is the developer tool/network used to create the games |
| 07:35.50 | oreth | XNA isn't the name of a game |
| 07:37.41 | kd3 | ahaha, this quest is awesome. |
| 07:37.48 | kd3 | I'm a mage with a ravager pet, just like a hunter |
| 07:40.30 | Wobin | oreth: ah |
| 07:40.36 | Wobin | oreth: watch teh video aanyway |
| 07:41.40 | oreth | oh yeah |
| 07:41.42 | oreth | i've seen that |
| 07:43.34 | oreth | i broked the forums ;( |
| 07:43.39 | oreth | wrong window |
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| 07:53.08 | Shirik | "Class StringUtils does not exist" "Hint: Import <some long package name>" |
| 07:53.16 | Shirik | *clicks the hint to do it automatically* |
| 07:53.27 | Shirik | C:\Users\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\wowiupdater\src\wowiupdater\SelfUpdater.java:43: package com.sun.xml.internal.ws.util does not exist |
| 07:53.34 | Shirik | gee, thanks netbeans. |
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| 07:59.51 | Cairenn | omghi2u Guillotin1! |
| 07:59.56 | Guillotin1 | lol |
| 08:00.11 | Guillotine | I was finally convinced to sign up :( |
| 08:00.19 | Guillotine | though I've been opposing it for years |
| 08:00.26 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 08:00.30 | Cairenn | urfriendnow! |
| 08:00.39 | Guillotine | zomgty |
| 08:00.45 | Cairenn | yeah, I tried to avoid it as well, sister sucked me into it |
| 08:01.46 | Guillotine | I feel like such a sellout |
| 08:01.48 | Cairenn | ushudjoinmygroopnpg! |
| 08:02.02 | Shirik | (02:59:29) (Guillotine) I was finally convinced to sign up :( |
| 08:02.03 | Guillotine | lol |
| 08:02.04 | Shirik | sign up? |
| 08:02.07 | Guillotine | facebook |
| 08:02.09 | Cairenn | facebook |
| 08:02.10 | Shirik | oh |
| 08:02.11 | kd3 | ah, lol |
| 08:02.12 | Shirik | I should joi |
| 08:02.16 | Shirik | but I never use facebook |
| 08:02.27 | Shirik | I've had my facebook for like 3 years and people probably write on my wall saying "Hey where the hell are you" |
| 08:02.32 | Shirik | and "Why haven't you put up a picture yet wtF?! |
| 08:02.47 | Cairenn | and since I got sucked in, I figured why not make up a page and a group for MMOI |
| 08:02.52 | Guillotine | I lost all my pics when my laptop was stolen, so I currently just have a 3d render as my pic :( |
| 08:03.01 | Cairenn | ugh :( |
| 08:03.06 | Guillotine | actually, I bet I could find some from Blizzcon |
| 08:03.22 | Guillotine | think MP had an album |
| 08:03.39 | Cairenn | yup |
| 08:03.52 | Cairenn | it's on norgs somewhere |
| 08:04.51 | Cairenn | http://blizzcon2007.norganna.org/main.php |
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| 08:09.14 | Guillotine | awesome, thanks :) |
| 08:09.32 | Shirik | pics! |
| 08:09.34 | Shirik | where's cairenn |
| 08:09.42 | Cairenn | no |
| 08:09.49 | Shirik | grr >.> |
| 08:10.05 | Guillotine | http://blizzcon2007.norganna.org/main.php/v/Artwork/IMG_1014.JPG.html <--Cairenn |
| 08:10.10 | Shirik | HA! I found you! |
| 08:10.12 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 08:10.55 | Shirik | funny thing is Guillotine looks like someone I know |
| 08:11.05 | Shirik | TC too |
| 08:11.08 | Shirik | And Slouken wtf |
| 08:11.17 | Guillotine | TC looks like someone I know too |
| 08:11.24 | Guillotine | only it happens to be TC |
| 08:11.39 | Shirik | Guillotine looks like a friend of mine, TC looks like someone I'm working with at IEEE, and Slouken looks like a former co-worker |
| 08:11.43 | Shirik | this is some kind of conspiracy I know it |
| 08:11.55 | Guillotine | You don't live in LA, do you? :P |
| 08:11.59 | Shirik | Why is Cairenn always on the phone? |
| 08:12.00 | Shirik | no :P |
| 08:12.21 | Cairenn | Shirik: you didn't hear what my bill was after I got back, did you? |
| 08:12.26 | Shirik | lol no |
| 08:12.37 | Cairenn | hang on, trying to find it |
| 08:12.42 | Shirik | Oh right you're from Canada |
| 08:12.45 | Shirik | god that's gotta suck |
| 08:12.55 | Shirik | I was going to recommend getting nationwide coverage |
| 08:12.58 | Shirik | then I was like "wait that won't work" |
| 08:13.15 | Shirik | I need nationwide because my phone is registered to Virginia |
| 08:13.19 | Shirik | but I only use it in florida :P |
| 08:13.28 | Guillotine | you could tell she was from Canada by the moose she rode to Blizzcon |
| 08:13.42 | Shirik | lol |
| 08:14.10 | Iriel | Silly Guillotine that was no moose! it was a Caribou! |
| 08:14.54 | Shirik | Iriel, is there some standard function for decoding base 64? (PEM) |
| 08:14.55 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:14.57 | Shirik | in Java |
| 08:15.10 | Shirik | I found a reference to something on Java's forums but it didn't seem to exist for me |
| 08:15.29 | Shirik | http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5260954 references org.apache.commons.codec.binary.Base64.decodeBase64 |
| 08:15.38 | Shirik | (sorry I ninjaed you for a question ) |
| 08:15.46 | Shirik | Iriel must hate me by now, always asking questions |
| 08:16.59 | Industrial | whee im doing java stuff too atm |
| 08:17.09 | Industrial | but im a total nub again now :( |
| 08:17.28 | xlvii | Any Australians in here? Send me a personal message if you are, thank you. |
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| 08:20.59 | Guillotine | facebook crashes my firefox when I try to add/delete photos :( |
| 08:21.12 | Industrial | in your face! |
| 08:21.29 | Guillotine | oh wait, just when I try to add them |
| 08:22.03 | Corrodias | holy crap. two 25-piece cultery sets from Ron Popiel for $40? |
| 08:22.19 | Guillotine | Corrodias: stop trying to sell us kitchen-ware |
| 08:22.28 | Guillotine | we figured out your scheme |
| 08:22.54 | Corrodias | i am merely the harbinger of value |
| 08:25.05 | Guillotine | goddammit, facebook hates my firefox :( |
| 08:25.52 | Shirik | :< I'm not allowed to use a variable named "this" |
| 08:26.08 | Shirik | That's one thing I like about Lua, internal variables I can overwrite :D |
| 08:26.19 | Shirik | I don't like your "self", give me a new one! |
| 08:27.21 | Maldivia | you don't like yourself... poor you :) |
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| 08:36.22 | Cairenn | found it, finally |
| 08:36.25 | Cairenn | (1:55:51 AM) Cairenn: btw, did I tell you guys? I got my cell bill for BlizzCon |
| 08:36.25 | Cairenn | (1:55:55 AM) Cairenn: $350 |
| 08:36.48 | Guillotine | holy crap |
| 08:37.12 | Guillotine | you would have been better off paying for the entire place to be wired with a sound system for you to broadcast your messages |
| 08:37.33 | Guillotine | or better yet, hire your own hoard of messangers to run the messages |
| 08:37.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:38.18 | Cairenn | wouldn't have worked very well since I was coordinating stuff off site /with people that were offsite all the time too |
| 08:38.39 | Guillotine | you could have wired all of Anaheim |
| 08:38.54 | Cairenn | go go roaming charges |
| 08:39.14 | cladhaire | batrick: pong? |
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| 08:41.07 | Cairenn | and you know what? I'll do it all over again next blizzcon, and happily |
| 08:41.22 | Cairenn | :) |
| 08:41.42 | cladhaire | or buy a pre-paid sim card |
| 08:41.48 | cladhaire | and not have any roaming charges :P |
| 08:41.53 | Guillotine | next Blizzcon I'll actually have to pay for room/board instead of just staying at home :( |
| 08:42.00 | Guillotine | at least if its in anaheim |
| 08:42.06 | Cairenn | Guillotine: :( |
| 08:42.12 | kd3 | I'm still grateful that I got to go at all |
| 08:42.13 | Guillotine | nerf physical distances |
| 08:42.42 | cladhaire | lol |
| 08:42.44 | cladhaire | <-- england |
| 08:42.45 | cladhaire | kthx |
| 08:43.18 | Guillotine | pfft, thats nothing. I had to walk for almost 10 minutes to get to the convention center |
| 08:44.44 | widgertick | ._. |
| 08:44.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:44.59 | widgertick | I don't think I'll go to BlizzCon |
| 08:45.14 | Cairenn | hahahahhaha! http://flickr.com/photos/sepultura/2282088722/ |
| 08:45.36 | widgertick | @_@ |
| 08:45.46 | Cairenn | blame dolby-wowi, he found it |
| 08:46.05 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 08:46.16 | cladhaire | I'm going to WWBlizzICon |
| 08:46.22 | Shirik | wow. |
| 08:46.24 | cladhaire | or whatever the hell they're calling it now O.o |
| 08:47.07 | Shirik | Blizzactivacon |
| 08:47.08 | Shirik | imo |
| 08:47.17 | cladhaire | Guillotine: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11365/ |
| 08:47.23 | Cairenn | world wide invitational, I thought |
| 08:47.29 | Guillotine | *sigh* |
| 08:47.53 | Cairenn | again? |
| 08:48.04 | Cairenn | you guys REALLY need to get rid of your auto-approve method |
| 08:48.11 | cladhaire | Thought you might want to know that someone has uploaded a version of LightHeaded to Curse today (Feb 22): LightHeaded on Curse (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11365/). The uploader is not claiming it as their work and does include a link to the LightHead page on WoWInterface. Not sure if you can do anything to prevent this, but thought you might appreciate a heads-up about this. |
| 08:48.19 | cladhaire | thank god I have rabid users |
| 08:48.58 | Shirik | wow your users sent that to you? |
| 08:48.59 | Shirik | that's nice |
| 08:49.31 | Guillotine | Cairenn: I personally agree |
| 08:49.44 | Industrial | cladhaire: \o/ |
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| 08:51.02 | cladhaire | Shirik: yep, |
| 08:51.05 | Guillotine | we should just put a filter in that bans anyone that tries to post a mod with 'lightheaded' in the domain |
| 08:51.12 | cladhaire | if they dont' catch it normally, the people in Dongle probably do |
| 08:51.13 | Guillotine | err, name |
| 08:51.24 | cladhaire | Guillotine: clique, tomtom, lightheaded and perfectraid would be best |
| 08:51.25 | cladhaire | but yeah |
| 08:51.44 | Guillotine | well, the others aren't uploaded NEAR as much as lightheaded |
| 08:51.52 | cladhaire | aye |
| 08:52.26 | cladhaire | i have _never_ understood.. why someone does shit like this |
| 08:52.32 | cladhaire | they upload other authors stuff to wowinterface too |
| 08:52.35 | cladhaire | its the fucking web |
| 08:52.37 | cladhaire | i mean cmon |
| 08:52.56 | Guillotine | They think they're being helpful or something. We've had people argue that the author wants them to help upload it |
| 08:53.01 | Guillotine | even when I'm talking to the author right here on IRC |
| 08:53.26 | Industrial | its all about small communities |
| 08:53.26 | cladhaire | we ban people at wowi if they keep pulling that shit imo |
| 08:53.36 | Cairenn | yup |
| 08:53.36 | Industrial | they want THEIR friend to download it and those firend only know curse |
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| 08:53.41 | Guillotine | we do as well if its from the same ip |
| 08:53.49 | Guillotine | the thing is, its from all different people usually :( |
| 08:54.08 | Guillotine | The one I was talking about that argued didn't actually repost it. He just claimed we shouldn't have taken it down |
| 08:54.14 | Corrodias | i must erect a shrine to cladhaire for those addons, by the way |
| 08:54.30 | Guillotine | Someone made a nice suggestion though. IP ban *.* |
| 08:54.34 | cladhaire | Guillotine: to be fair, the license of LightHeaded does not give them the right to redistribute it |
| 08:54.36 | Cairenn | Guillotine: it's frustrating |
| 08:57.05 | Guillotine | well, I'm getting an error -_- going to try to get someone in the office to delete it. |
| 08:57.59 | cladhaire | well thanks for trying |
| 08:58.07 | cladhaire | maybe i should get in touch with hubert again |
| 08:58.39 | Guillotine | you have contact info? |
| 08:58.45 | cladhaire | plenty :P |
| 08:58.48 | Guillotine | alright |
| 08:59.12 | cladhaire | i' |
| 08:59.20 | cladhaire | i've bat-phoned him quite a few times, sadly |
| 08:59.36 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 08:59.39 | Shirik | wow |
| 08:59.40 | cladhaire | i wish i had time to play wow |
| 08:59.43 | Shirik | I didn't know you could do that.... |
| 08:59.49 | Shirik | for (int i = 0, n = 0; i < s.length(); i += 4) |
| 09:00.04 | cladhaire | uhh |
| 09:00.07 | cladhaire | yeah? |
| 09:00.16 | Shirik | Never needed more than one variable in a loop like that before >.> |
| 09:00.43 | cladhaire | hehe |
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| 09:05.11 | Shirik | So |
| 09:05.25 | Shirik | We use hex because it's easy to use -- two digits make a byte |
| 09:06.15 | Shirik | I want to meet the guy who decided on base-64 |
| 09:06.32 | Guillotine | I use base 1 |
| 09:06.35 | Buuyo | the encoding? ... |
| 09:06.39 | Buuyo | aka uuencode? |
| 09:06.40 | Shirik | whom sat here and said "You know, we should invent a system so that every character corresponds to 4/3 of a byte" |
| 09:07.03 | Shirik | "So that for every character they read, they'll need to read 4 characters, then generate 3 bytes" |
| 09:07.15 | Shirik | "Oh but what if the number of bytes is not divisible by 3?" |
| 09:07.23 | Shirik | "Oh we can just stick another character there" |
| 09:07.31 | Shirik | "Wouldn't that make it base 65?" "NO IT'S BASE 64!" |
| 09:07.37 | Industrial | :p |
| 09:08.03 | Shirik | Buuyo: Is that what uuencode is? |
| 09:08.09 | Shirik | I never figured out what that term was :P |
| 09:10.18 | Buuyo | i think its base64 |
| 09:11.41 | Shirik | it doesn't change the fact that they decided each character should be 4/3 of a byte |
| 09:11.43 | wereHamster | Shirik, base64 is 1char=4/3byte, hex is 1char=1/2byte. base64 is about the most efficient binary->ascii encoding you can get |
| 09:11.45 | Shirik | like.... why. |
| 09:12.12 | Shirik | Sometimes you can justify sacrificing a little efficency for ease of use >< |
| 09:12.29 | wereHamster | .. not in the old days of 33k modems ;) |
| 09:14.13 | Shirik | worst part of this is |
| 09:14.16 | Shirik | I don't need to implement this |
| 09:14.19 | Shirik | But I'm being lazy |
| 09:14.31 | Shirik | If I just had a binary file in the first place everything would be ok |
| 09:14.36 | Shirik | but I decided to have a PEM file |
| 09:15.18 | foxlit | dictionary it, np |
| 09:15.18 | wereHamster | what's a PEM file? |
| 09:15.27 | foxlit | keys |
| 09:16.25 | Guillotine | cladhaire: should be deleted now |
| 09:16.36 | cladhaire | thank you |
| 09:16.41 | Guillotine | :) |
| 09:17.52 | Shirik | wereHamster: |
| 09:17.53 | Shirik | -----BEGIN PUBLIC KEY----- |
| 09:17.53 | Shirik | MIICIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAg8AMIICCgKCAgEA01g2Fr0B5OtABbyhRl+V |
| 09:17.54 | Shirik | etc.. |
| 09:21.05 | kd3 | wtf... |
| 09:21.14 | kd3 | [Florida] "Man waits turn in line, robs bank" |
| 09:21.34 | Kalroth | kd3: It's the smart thing to do |
| 09:21.43 | Shirik | He didn't want to be rude |
| 09:21.50 | Kalroth | kd3: What if the 3-4 people infront of you are there to put money in the bank? |
| 09:21.55 | Kalroth | More money for him to rob. |
| 09:21.58 | kd3 | heh |
| 09:22.00 | Shirik | Kalroth: What if they're there to take it out? |
| 09:22.07 | Kalroth | Shirik: Then he could shoot them |
| 09:22.10 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:22.17 | Guillotine | What if they're there to rob it all too? Then he gets nothing. |
| 09:22.17 | foxlit | Bank has more than three customers |
| 09:22.25 | foxlit | Waiting for them to leave is logical! |
| 09:22.28 | Shirik | mine rarely has 2 |
| 09:22.29 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:22.50 | foxlit | "Conspiracy National Trust" isn't very trustworthy? |
| 09:25.41 | kd3 | heh at the spysat intercept vids... |
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| 09:26.01 | kd3 | http://gizmodo.com/359031/video-of-spy-satellite-getting-shot-down |
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| 10:06.11 | Shirik | ok this is hurting my head too night |
| 10:06.15 | Shirik | too much |
| 10:06.15 | Shirik | night |
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| 10:13.08 | Guillotine | night all |
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| 10:55.24 | Olison | ~seen beladona |
| 10:55.26 | purl | beladona <n=0ctavius@97.97.212.0> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 5d 15h 36m 15s ago, saying: 'I also intend to have a "highlight lines x through x" feature via the url'. |
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| 13:06.31 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: hows snow up there? |
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| 13:07.06 | Lopeppeppy | Coming down pretty steadily already, art3mis. Last night they upped the ante from 1-3 inches to 3-6 inches, but I haven't checked the forecast yet this AM. |
| 13:07.21 | art3mis | yeah doesnt seem that bad, we've got about 4-6 or so right now |
| 13:08.16 | art3mis | maybe my train will get stuck and ill get some "heres a free pair of return tickets anywhere cuz we dont want a worse rep" type thing ;P |
| 13:09.02 | Lopeppeppy | If it stays falling steadily it won't be too bad, they can keep up with it and are good about keeping roads and stuff clear. It's when it starts getting all blizzard that things get sticky. And the wind blows right down both the Mohawk and the Hudson around here, it can get interesting at times. |
| 13:09.30 | art3mis | should make fera perty ride too |
| 13:09.40 | art3mis | since ive never actually gone that route |
| 13:09.53 | art3mis | all my driving to and from toronto was through jersey and penn mostly |
| 13:10.17 | Lopeppeppy | You can get some pretty countryside just outside of both cities. Not that albany is a city much. |
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| 13:11.52 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmmm, what would be the biological equivalent of this: while (sleep 100 &!) do; done |
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| 15:54.21 | Cidan | huh |
| 15:54.22 | Cidan | so quiet |
| 15:54.27 | Cidan | THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS when I'm not around |
| 15:55.06 | zenzelezz | it's because we get so tired of your talking that we compensate with silence |
| 15:55.12 | Cidan | D: |
| 15:55.45 | Lopeppeppy | Hello, Cidan. You have been quiet the last week, ya know. No one talks unless you wake us up. |
| 15:56.13 | Cidan | Been super busy. |
| 15:56.25 | Cidan | ITS A GHOST |
| 15:56.26 | Cidan | AHHHH |
| 15:56.35 | |Jelly|Ghost | QUICK! KILL IT! |
| 15:56.52 | Egon | D: |
| 15:57.49 | zenzelezz | are rogue poisons/sharpening stone timers real-time or in-game time? |
| 15:58.13 | Lopeppeppy | Game time IIRC, but I'm not 100% sure anymore. |
| 15:58.21 | ralfWORK | lolwut |
| 15:58.41 | bleeter | mwhahahah mwhahahaha hhahahah http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4822543627&sid=1 hahahahahahaha |
| 15:58.44 | bleeter | mwhaahahahahahaha |
| 15:59.16 | bleeter | here's another |
| 15:59.21 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547730858&sid=1 |
| 15:59.29 | bleeter | mwhahahahah hahahahah lolz mhwhahahahahahahahahahah |
| 15:59.37 | bleeter | I ain't gunna be able to stop laughing all weekend |
| 16:00.12 | bleeter | mwhahahahahahaha |
| 16:02.25 | Olison | what's wrong with you? |
| 16:03.15 | Maldivia | think it's called a laughing fit... |
| 16:03.33 | sysrage | heh that's pretty good |
| 16:03.50 | Maldivia | I like the AV one :) |
| 16:04.12 | ralfWORK | erm |
| 16:04.18 | ralfWORK | ammusing I suppose |
| 16:04.23 | ralfWORK | not sure I'm lolzing though :P |
| 16:05.08 | Maldivia | well, personally, I would the emote funny - not the suspension :) |
| 16:05.29 | Maldivia | would probably have found it even more funny, if I had been in the BG, and seen 20 people drop :) |
| 16:05.31 | sysrage | i fell for it when they first implemented the afk system |
| 16:06.55 | Maldivia | reminds me of the good old: /part and /quit were on a raft. /quit fell over board, who's left? |
| 16:07.13 | ralfWORK | hahahaha good one |
| 16:07.35 | ralfWORK | that's better than the over-used "press alt-F4 to <insert awesome thing here>" |
| 16:08.21 | Maldivia | another fun one is: come /join us in #version1,0 |
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| 16:09.19 | zenzelezz | in Anarchy Online people would occasionally "/shout how do you kill yourself?" and watch people die as they typed "/terminate" in response |
| 16:09.29 | Saint-N | well that was ass |
| 16:09.48 | Saint-N | talk to train lady on the phone "yeah sure you can bring your computer as checked baggage |
| 16:09.54 | Maldivia | same as in wow, how you you leave a guild |
| 16:09.56 | Saint-N | get to the baggage check "no electronics" |
| 16:10.02 | Maldivia | and then watch people go guild-less |
| 16:10.26 | zenzelezz | Maldivia: I wouldn't call it the same. Losing a ton of experience points versus needing a re-invite |
| 16:10.42 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: well, it's the closest one for wow :) |
| 16:10.49 | zenzelezz | that much is true |
| 16:11.18 | zenzelezz | some years ago I remember people on IRC would also say something like "hey, I just found out what Alt+Z does" |
| 16:11.33 | bleeter | Maldivia: word to wise - impersonating system messages is an actionable offence ;) |
| 16:11.33 | bleeter | no matter how amusing ;) |
| 16:11.38 | zenzelezz | which in mIRC would close the channel window |
| 16:11.54 | bleeter | nah, the really funny thing is these idiots get onto the Blizz forums and openly admit to breaking the rules, then ask why they got suspended/banned |
| 16:12.32 | Maldivia | and also openly admit they are doing it from another persona account, thus violating the terms on a second account aswell? |
| 16:12.53 | Saint-N | For your IRC horrorscope type /sign <youre astrological sign> |
| 16:14.59 | Olison | ^ |
| 16:17.39 | Maldivia | Saint: I like how you called it horror-scope, and not horoscope :) |
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| 16:18.26 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 16:18.39 | ralfWORK | interesting that you aren't allowed to let your spouse play your toon |
| 16:18.58 | ralfWORK | yet you can let your kids |
| 16:19.05 | ralfWORK | (if I'm reading this right) |
| 16:19.09 | Maldivia | you can your kids, as you're their legal guardian |
| 16:19.24 | Maldivia | you're not your wifes legal guardian (well, usually not) |
| 16:19.32 | ralfWORK | oh the hell I'm not! |
| 16:19.33 | ralfWORK | ;) |
| 16:20.06 | ralfWORK | and not to be dense, but I don't see the sense in that logic |
| 16:20.15 | TecnoBrat | ralfWORK, yea, you are right. |
| 16:20.17 | ralfWORK | so what if you are their legal guardian |
| 16:20.18 | Maldivia | ... but it doesn't say anything about husband or partner... heh :) |
| 16:20.34 | TecnoBrat | Maldivia, it says only your kids |
| 16:20.40 | Maldivia | I know :) |
| 16:20.45 | TecnoBrat | which automatically excludes everyone else, lol |
| 16:21.46 | Maldivia | ralfWORK: because an underaged kid is not allowed to make a account, needs a parent to do it, meaning it will be the parents account |
| 16:22.01 | bleeter | you can let ONE child, not any of the 15 kids (iirc) |
| 16:22.05 | ralfWORK | Maldivia: ah, gotcha |
| 16:22.09 | bleeter | *any and all |
| 16:22.12 | ralfWORK | I'm looking at http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=21506 |
| 16:23.27 | ralfWORK | not saying blizz can't do whatever the hell they want |
| 16:23.31 | ralfWORK | but that's kinda draconian |
| 16:24.21 | sysrage | it's not like they're gonna enforce it for spouses |
| 16:24.25 | bleeter | but blizz CAN do whatever they want, it's their system. you're merely paying for access to an account on it, nothing more nothing less. they set the rules on how they want you to use the account. |
| 16:24.40 | Maldivia | they're not going to enforce it, unless it's an obvious violation (read powerleveling etc) |
| 16:24.45 | bleeter | sysrage: I've seen a couple of posts in CSF where they actually have |
| 16:24.51 | ralfWORK | bleeter: <ralfWORK> not saying blizz can't do whatever the hell they want |
| 16:25.18 | sysrage | pretty silly, but ya. people agreed to the rules |
| 16:25.24 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.32 | ralfWORK | bleeter: and it is |
| 16:25.44 | ralfWORK | and they have a right to be draconian |
| 16:25.55 | Maldivia | I dare you to find a single raiding guild, where there aren't at least one who has access to another persons account |
| 16:26.10 | TecnoBrat | well, the point is how did they know about the spouse? |
| 16:26.19 | TecnoBrat | it'd be the same city accessing the account etc |
| 16:26.24 | TecnoBrat | so it means that the person was a retard |
| 16:26.29 | TecnoBrat | and phone blizzard and said |
| 16:26.29 | ralfWORK | sure |
| 16:26.35 | TecnoBrat | "No its my husbands account" |
| 16:26.41 | bleeter | anyways, draconian is small offense = heavy penalty. blizz have that penalty volcano thing, the only way to get a big punishment straight up is a big offence, so it's not really draconian |
| 16:26.42 | Lopeppeppy | They do that, TecnoBrat. |
| 16:27.01 | TecnoBrat | so this is the retard filter in action then |
| 16:27.18 | bleeter | I had a guildie the other day say in SW's localdefense "I'd help, but I have no idea how to play this toon" |
| 16:27.29 | bleeter | this was our primary OT, mind you |
| 16:27.29 | TecnoBrat | if you are dumb enough to tell blizzard you are using someone elses account, you deserve to have your account banned |
| 16:27.49 | bleeter | so I pulled them up 'who the fuck are you in control of <names>'s account'?? |
| 16:28.31 | bleeter | and they got really shitty at me for asking such stuff, even when I explained that they're asking for trouble with random reports, let alone the possibility that they may have been an account hacker without a care, I still got told off by this moron's girlfriend |
| 16:28.39 | bleeter | er.. no.. he's not a moron, the gf is |
| 16:29.18 | bleeter | so when I was able to confirm it was him a bit later, I told him to change the security on his account because his g/f is a freaken idiot |
| 16:29.22 | TecnoBrat | heh |
| 16:29.47 | bleeter | he was all 'wtf she say in localdefense jaysus the bitch' |
| 16:29.48 | TecnoBrat | No one has ever had access to my account, and I'd never give out my acct info |
| 16:29.52 | TecnoBrat | I'd just never do it |
| 16:30.22 | ralfWORK | I've been in a dillema about having access to an account that a guildy has put on 6-month hiatus |
| 16:30.26 | bleeter | not a day goes by in CSF without someone trying to come up with a new excuse why they weren't sharing details and they shouldn't have got banned |
| 16:30.37 | TecnoBrat | I know people from NZ who have given their account details to people in the US |
| 16:30.41 | bleeter | a lot of CSF is junk, but two or three posts a day are absolutely golden |
| 16:30.45 | TecnoBrat | its not hard for blizzard to track that, and ban them |
| 16:30.48 | TecnoBrat | and really they should be |
| 16:31.08 | TecnoBrat | EG, its not possible for someone to login to an account in NZ and then 10 mins later in the US |
| 16:31.20 | ralfWORK | sure it is |
| 16:31.22 | ralfWORK | it's called VNC |
| 16:31.26 | ralfWORK | prove it blizz :P |
| 16:31.27 | bleeter | I've always wondered why I haven't been banned... my IP is in far north Australia, because I use a layer 2 connection from far southern Tasmania to get closer to the pipes leading out of the country |
| 16:31.38 | ralfWORK | bleeter: see, there you go |
| 16:31.49 | Maldivia | TecnoBrat: I see you haven't seen Jumper then :) |
| 16:31.55 | Lopeppeppy | ralfWORK -- do not break the rules. *shrug* It's not worth having your account and your friends' account both banned. |
| 16:31.56 | TecnoBrat | bleeter, is it always that IP? |
| 16:31.58 | bleeter | so, I'm usually playing in Queensland. I go visit a mate 10 kilometers away from my home address, takes 15 minutes to drive, and I'm suddenly in Tasmania |
| 16:32.05 | bleeter | TecnoBrat: yeah, permanentn IP |
| 16:32.08 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: yea, that's what I'm leaning towards :( |
| 16:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | Whether we like it or not, it's the rules that Bliz gave us and we agreed to. So just don't do it. |
| 16:32.18 | TecnoBrat | bleeter, so that wouldn't be a problem then |
| 16:32.35 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: tempts me because it would save me a ton of respecs :P |
| 16:32.37 | TecnoBrat | ralfWORK, you are gonna play wow via VNC? hahaha |
| 16:32.58 | bleeter | TecnoBrat: yeah, I figured they must be fairly smart, worked out that this is my home, and given my mates' place, we play on the same realm, they see me there running around with him, and it's all cool |
| 16:33.01 | ralfWORK | TecnoBrat: it was the first example that came to mind to dispute the sweeping statement made |
| 16:33.08 | bleeter | god, wow via vnc even over LAN blows goats ;) |
| 16:33.10 | TecnoBrat | and really, its for your own protection if they did it |
| 16:33.27 | TecnoBrat | EG all of a sudden an account that logs in only in the US all of a sudden logs in from China |
| 16:34.11 | TecnoBrat | and the guy from China is here to hack your char :P |
| 16:34.23 | bleeter | I suspect they investigate ANY IP changes that violate the laws of physics, and use some research as to whether suspensions should take place. changing continents, though, in 5 minutes is a BIG give-away |
| 16:34.26 | TecnoBrat | I'm just surprised they don't do it |
| 16:34.49 | TecnoBrat | bleeter, yea, thats basically my point |
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| 16:35.13 | Lopeppeppy | And you have to prove innocence after they ban-stick you, it's not like they inquire first. |
| 16:35.19 | bleeter | there was a guy the other day in CSF who commuted to office work a week or two a month, but lived in texas somewhere... his account got into trouble because his kid was playing it when he was at work, and he'd play it in the evening when he wasn't in the office |
| 16:35.25 | bleeter | thus, violating the laws of physics |
| 16:35.33 | bleeter | he sent the paperwork and foo in, all sorted |
| 16:35.39 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: right, guilty until proving innocent |
| 16:35.50 | TecnoBrat | CSF? |
| 16:35.59 | Lopeppeppy | Their rules, we don't like 'em, se can always leave. |
| 16:36.04 | bleeter | Customer Support Forum |
| 16:36.07 | ralfWORK | sure can |
| 16:36.09 | ralfWORK | but we won't :) |
| 16:36.12 | TecnoBrat | ahh yea |
| 16:36.12 | bleeter | sounds fancy, but in reality it's the GMs forum |
| 16:36.33 | bleeter | if you ask them stuff that's not GM related, they'll give what info they can, then send you off to the relevant department |
| 16:36.36 | TecnoBrat | yea, I couldn't get the acronym, lol |
| 16:37.45 | bleeter | who else saw the junk in the PTR forum earlier on? |
| 16:37.54 | bleeter | the 8-9 page thread 'FUCK YOU KALGAN' |
| 16:38.03 | bleeter | and the other 10 or so posts similarly named? |
| 16:38.05 | ralfWORK | bleeter: I did |
| 16:38.17 | ralfWORK | don't know why they are pissed at him |
| 16:38.18 | bleeter | ralfWORK: someone forgot their medication, do you think? |
| 16:38.22 | ralfWORK | and didn't bother looking honestly |
| 16:38.27 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 16:38.31 | bleeter | I took a brief glance |
| 16:38.36 | TecnoBrat | because they turned off raiding? |
| 16:38.41 | ralfWORK | how about all the uhm.... "11>31" posts on the priest forums? |
| 16:38.54 | ralfWORK | TecnoBrat: ahh. why? |
| 16:39.03 | bleeter | what I'm wondering, is whether the folks responding to the OP (thus bumping his post) will also get hit with a PTR ban hammer |
| 16:39.05 | TecnoBrat | I'm guessing thats what it was about |
| 16:39.20 | ralfWORK | bleeter: good question |
| 16:39.23 | TecnoBrat | ralfWORK, because they are going to turn it back on in a few days after the next PTR patch |
| 16:39.27 | bleeter | TecnoBrat: really? that's ... odd... I guess some content wasn't getting tested |
| 16:39.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, most likely explanation. |
| 16:39.43 | TecnoBrat | I guess they don't want people all zerging the boses down |
| 16:39.51 | Lopeppeppy | Or there was raiding code they wanted to adjust. |
| 16:39.52 | bleeter | not doing the new dailies maybe |
| 16:39.54 | ralfWORK | TecnoBrat: *shrug* people shouldn't get bent about TEST software |
| 16:40.03 | bleeter | or enough of the new dailies to trigger certain events |
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| 16:40.41 | bleeter | maybe they don't want a repeat of the broken drunk dwarf invasion from brewfest ;) |
| 16:40.55 | ralfWORK | ohhh I have a dorf, can I play? |
| 16:41.00 | bleeter | 'coz that didn't get heavily tested, iirc |
| 16:41.19 | bleeter | I know I didn't, I was 'sounds cute, I'll wait 'til live to try it' |
| 16:42.42 | ralfWORK | why doesn't qdoba deliver :( |
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| 16:44.34 | Valaron|Work | tgif |
| 16:44.41 | ralfWORK | yes now feed me plz |
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| 16:50.18 | ralfWORK | I don't want burger thing. |
| 16:50.23 | ralfWORK | I don't want mcdonalds |
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| 16:50.32 | |pez| | come here and eat homemade pizza! ... |
| 16:50.33 | Lopeppeppy | Subs. |
| 16:50.41 | ralfWORK | should I try a cuban? |
| 16:52.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a plain old ham and cheese girl myself. |
| 16:52.52 | |pez| | I like salami and cheese! |
| 16:53.05 | |pez| | or pastrami and cheese,but that's more for when I make stuff at home. :P |
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| 16:53.11 | ralfWORK | could order in some chineese |
| 16:53.19 | |pez| | mm, chines. |
| 16:53.20 | |pez| | e |
| 16:53.33 | |pez| | We've got this chinese place, called... "Bread and Wine" :P |
| 16:53.47 | ralfWORK | they have a good sashimi plate too, but I don't want that today |
| 16:53.47 | Shirik | morning everyone |
| 16:53.52 | ralfWORK | could do enchiladas |
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| 16:59.03 | Valaron|Work | I'm getting Chinese in 3 hours. |
| 16:59.35 | Valaron|Work | I'm getting coffee now. |
| 17:00.13 | Crysli | Sounds good. |
| 17:01.20 | Crysli | I could use some Chinese. |
| 17:01.25 | Crysli | Or coffee. |
| 17:03.39 | oreth | COffee in my Chinese |
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| 17:07.22 | TecnoBrat | Coffee in my belly! |
| 17:08.38 | |pez| | geeh, Coffee |
| 17:09.42 | Valaron|Work | Bow to the glory that is coffee. |
| 17:09.59 | TecnoBrat | Coffee > All |
| 17:10.07 | |pez| | I will... go to the kitchen and start making pizza things. |
| 17:10.20 | Valaron|Work | OOh.. homemade pizza? |
| 17:10.20 | Crysli | pizza...things? |
| 17:10.22 | Valaron|Work | Yum |
| 17:10.27 | |pez| | Valaron|Work: yes! |
| 17:10.39 | |pez| | Crysli: yeah, the dough, and prepare whatever is going ontop of it. :P |
| 17:10.45 | Crysli | Sounds like you're making pizza monsters. |
| 17:11.07 | |pez| | that'd be cool though. |
| 17:11.37 | Crysli | Yeah. |
| 17:11.49 | |pez| | I wonder if I can freeze pizzadough for a while... |
| 17:12.03 | Crysli | And then let lightnig strike it! |
| 17:12.05 | |pez| | then I could make a bit extra, and put one in the freezer for later use. |
| 17:12.57 | Valaron|Work | Why not? Pizza joints do that all the time!! |
| 17:14.40 | |pez| | I need to roll it together though, so I need to find something that doesn't much up when thawing afterwards which I can roll it in. does bakingpaper mush up, anyone know? :P |
| 17:15.29 | |pez| | I just don't have room in my freezer for a flat pizzadough. :P |
| 17:15.33 | zenzelezz | I thought you didn't make food yourself |pez| |
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| 17:15.46 | |pez| | zenzelezz: I'm getting better at it! |
| 17:15.58 | zenzelezz | I'll need proof |
| 17:16.21 | |pez| | gget your butt to Bergen in... say 4 hours? :P |
| 17:16.31 | Crysli | I'll be there. |
| 17:16.32 | Crysli | 8D |
| 17:16.53 | |pez| | ... crap, I need to make more food then! |
| 17:16.59 | |pez| | I have no moneys to buy more chicken! |
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| 17:17.16 | Crysli | Make more pizza then. |
| 17:17.28 | |pez| | the chicken is going on the pizza |
| 17:17.39 | Crysli | Put other stuff on it. |
| 17:17.47 | |pez| | don't have other stuff. |
| 17:18.04 | Crysli | Oh. Then I won't go to Bergen anyway., |
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| 17:19.39 | Crysli | Plain pizza dough == fail |
| 17:22.07 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 17:22.26 | Crysli | ralfWORK: What's wrong? |
| 17:23.04 | ralfWORK | Crysli: that was in regard to your pizza dough ail |
| 17:23.07 | ralfWORK | *fail |
| 17:23.08 | Crysli | Oh. |
| 17:23.31 | Crysli | Well, the dough itself is good, but pizza with no topping == fail. |
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| 17:23.53 | ralfWORK | but so long as I'm frowning |
| 17:24.17 | ralfWORK | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4823213082&postId=47735829046 |
| 17:25.00 | Crysli | Link's not working for me |
| 17:25.22 | ralfWORK | erm... works here |
| 17:25.35 | Crysli | What's the topic called? |
| 17:25.47 | ralfWORK | How do you over-recruit for raids? |
| 17:26.06 | Crysli | What board? |
| 17:26.10 | ralfWORK | guild relations |
| 17:26.19 | ralfWORK | should be first page, probably near top |
| 17:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | Recruit to have all spots filled every raid, with at least 1-2 sitting out and rotating. |
| 17:27.42 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: 1-2 sitting out per raid role? |
| 17:28.11 | Fisker- | just ad ?sid=1 to it |
| 17:28.12 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4823213082&postId=47735829046?sid=1 |
| 17:28.25 | ralfWORK | Fisker-: oh. sorry |
| 17:28.27 | Lopeppeppy | You have to be careful that you're raiding enough nights a week to do a fair rotation and get everyone raiding weekly. Raid role is better than strict class rotation. |
| 17:28.54 | Lopeppeppy | If you're only raiding once a week, having an bunch of extras makes no sense. They get bored and leave. You have to guage by how often you raid. |
| 17:29.04 | ralfWORK | 3 nights is what we do now |
| 17:29.12 | Fisker- | yeah that's because you suck ralfWORK |
| 17:29.15 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 17:29.25 | ralfWORK | Fisker-: D: |
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| 17:29.49 | Lopeppeppy | If your people can't raid at least 2 of those nights, they're not going to be happy. Members want to feel that they are partiipating in over half of the raids offered by the group. |
| 17:29.59 | Lopeppeppy | Do the hard math by raid role to make that happen. |
| 17:32.13 | ralfWORK | so for us that's 2 nights a week |
| 17:32.42 | Falcon213 | lua> a = { 1, 2, 3 }; print(#a) |
| 17:32.42 | lua_bot | Falcon213: 3 |
| 17:34.28 | ralfWORK | so for a 2 tank setup, 3 would be fine |
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| 17:36.36 | Crysli | http://wowi.pastey.net/82790- is there a better way to do this? I think creating a frame to execute this script seems a bit overkill, but I'm a complete newb at this, so I wouldn't know. |
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| 17:36.53 | Crysli | http://wowi.pastey.net/82790 is the actual link |
| 17:38.24 | Falcon213 | there's nothing wrong with creating a frame to execute background code |
| 17:38.38 | Falcon213 | as long as you don't :Show() it then it won't make a difference |
| 17:39.15 | Crysli | Are there any other ways to do it? |
| 17:39.53 | Falcon213 | not if you want to register an event afaik |
| 17:40.46 | Crysli | Alright. Thanks. |
| 17:41.03 | foxlit | I see what you did there! |
| 17:41.10 | Falcon213 | well, I suppose you could hook another frame.. but that would be overkill just to not create a frame |
| 17:41.14 | foxlit | (try comparing by item id not name -- localization headaches) |
| 17:41.34 | Maldivia | Falcon213: why are you looping the BuyMerchantItem call? |
| 17:41.42 | Falcon213 | not my code >_< |
| 17:41.50 | Maldivia | sorry, cryslu :) |
| 17:41.57 | Maldivia | arghh... Crysli :) |
| 17:42.05 | Falcon213 | =] |
| 17:42.13 | Kaso | learn 2 tab! |
| 17:42.36 | Maldivia | or just learn to hit the right keys |
| 17:42.41 | Crysli | Hm. That does seem a bit weird, yes. |
| 17:42.48 | Maldivia | that's probably a precon. for hitting tab aswell |
| 17:42.55 | Kaso | also, use descriptive variables names >.< this reads like something iriel coded. |
| 17:43.07 | foxlit | tjs mrbrt eptld |
| 17:43.15 | Crysli | foxlit: I agree |
| 17:43.17 | Maldivia | naah, not enough local for Iriels code :) |
| 17:43.27 | Kaso | True |
| 17:43.52 | Kaso | Sometimes i wonder if he codes his way with short variable names deliberately to make it harder for us mere mortals to understand |
| 17:44.07 | Crysli | I'll have a look at the code again to see what I can do. Thanks for the advice :) |
| 17:44.36 | foxlit | for loopIteratorVariable1=1,loopIteratorMaximum1 do --, Kaso? |
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| 17:44.49 | Kaso | perfect! |
| 17:45.11 | Maldivia | for var = from, to, step do --[[ ... ]]end |
| 17:45.39 | Maldivia | too long variables have the same effect as 1-char variables :) |
| 17:45.45 | Maldivia | makes it too verbose |
| 17:46.08 | Kaso | Abridged code snippit from devtools; |
| 17:46.15 | Kaso | elseif (dt == "table") then if (type(ud) == "userdata") then if (obj) then if (gn) then gn = gn(data) end |
| 17:46.47 | Falcon213 | but that's descriptive |
| 17:47.21 | Kaso | not particually >.< imho |
| 17:47.24 | Falcon213 | well in context it is anyway |
| 17:49.35 | Falcon213 | imo no reason to make variables too descriptive if they're just going to be trashed -- as long as you can tell what it means in context |
| 17:49.57 | Crysli | Maldivia: Instead of looping BuyMerchantItem, what would I do to achieve the same result? |
| 17:50.47 | |pez| | holycrap, it's almost 7pm -_- |
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| 17:52.38 | Maldivia | Crysli: BuyMerchantItem(c, ceil((o/s)/q) * (b>=s and s/q or ceil(b/q))) |
| 17:52.42 | Maldivia | shouldn't that amount to the same ? |
| 17:53.33 | Kaso | i thought a single call to that func could only buy max 1 stack, hence why he loops ? |
| 17:55.20 | Maldivia | ahh yeah, that would be the reason... :) |
| 17:55.26 | Maldivia | forgot about that limitation |
| 17:56.07 | Kaso | also Crysli, not an issue, but for tidyness _,_,_,_,_,_,_,s=GetItemInfo(i) can be condenced to s= select(8,GetItemInfo(i)); Though there might be some discussion as to which is faster. |
| 17:56.23 | Crysli | Speed isn't really an issue. |
| 17:57.23 | Falcon213 | the former may be ugly, but it's also more instantly readable imo |
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| 17:58.38 | Maldivia | ;) |
| 18:00.06 | Kaso | hmm, my test puts select 62% faster than _,_ |
| 18:00.17 | Kaso | guess all those global assignments are fairly taxing |
| 18:00.30 | Shirik | try local :) |
| 18:00.41 | Shirik | problem is for the global it's |
| 18:01.16 | Shirik | lua_getfield, lua_pushstring, lua_setfield, lua_pushstring, lua_setfield, etc |
| 18:01.26 | Shirik | assuming it's optimized properly |
| 18:01.29 | Shirik | it could be even worse |
| 18:01.35 | foxlit | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/02/22 : whose foot is this? |
| 18:01.37 | Kaso | how often do people remeber to make local reference to _ though |
| 18:02.01 | kergoth | Kaso: any decent developer _always_ uses locals unless they have a very specific reason to do otherwise. |
| 18:02.03 | kergoth | there's no "remember"Ing |
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| 18:02.33 | Maldivia | you don't remember to use local, you forget not to :) |
| 18:02.48 | Kaso | but _ is slightly different, even though it is a fully fledged variable, often its not considered not to be |
| 18:02.54 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:03.07 | Shirik | but the other variable in the list is a variable :) |
| 18:03.07 | kergoth | nobody i know treats it as anything but a normal variable |
| 18:03.31 | Shirik | kergoth: Kaso is implying that some developers forget that it's really a variable because they're just using it as a placeholder |
| 18:03.31 | Kaso | I've never seen anyone do local _ at the start of code |
| 18:03.32 | Maldivia | you still do local name,_,_,_,_,stack = GetItemInfo(id); -- or how many _ it needs |
| 18:03.34 | Shirik | Or maybe not even know at all |
| 18:03.53 | kergoth | Kaso: guess you havent read the code to many addons then |
| 18:04.24 | Maldivia | hmm, try /dump _ in game, to see if it contains anything :) |
| 18:04.31 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:04.51 | zenzelezz | 1 |
| 18:05.27 | Kaso | select is actually fractionally faster than _,_ even if both select and _ are local |
| 18:05.47 | kergoth | in my addons dir, which has 320 directories.. |
| 18:05.50 | kergoth | kergoth@hyperion Addons master!26fa532$ grep -nrIi ' _,.*=' */*.lua|grep -v local|cut -d: -f1|cut -d/ -f1|sort -u|wc -l |
| 18:05.50 | kergoth | 39 |
| 18:05.50 | kergoth | kergoth@hyperion Addons master!26fa532$ grep -nrIi 'local _,.*=' */*.lua|cut -d: -f1|cut -d/ -f1|sort -u|wc -l |
| 18:05.50 | kergoth | 93 |
| 18:05.51 | Kaso | Time taken =21.453 |
| 18:05.51 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.02 | kergoth | and thats a quick grep, some of those 39 had _ defiend as local before the assignment |
| 18:06.19 | kergoth | so its even larger ratio than 93 to 39 of local vs non |
| 18:06.43 | foxlit | Are those 320 addons actually 319 modules for some ace lunacy? |
| 18:07.05 | kergoth | standalone libs and a few modular ones |
| 18:07.11 | kergoth | auctioneer advanced is like 32 addons by itself of course |
| 18:07.13 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:07.14 | Maldivia | kergoth: tried a local .*_,.* ? |
| 18:07.29 | Maldivia | kergoth: it's very often _ isn't the first parameter |
| 18:07.35 | Maldivia | return value* |
| 18:07.41 | kergoth | good call |
| 18:07.42 | kergoth | kergoth@hyperion Addons master!26fa532$ grep -nrIi 'local .*, *_ *,.*=' */*.lua|cut -d: -f1|cut -d/ -f1|sort -u|wc -l |
| 18:07.43 | kergoth | 99 |
| 18:08.00 | Maldivia | ok, apparntly not in your addon folder :) |
| 18:08.22 | kergoth | well, those were seperate greps, there was probably a bit of overlap between _ at start and _ not at start |
| 18:11.29 | Maldivia | kergoth: ohh, and why not just grep -h, instead of all the cutting ? :) |
| 18:11.31 | kadrahil | so like, i made this video of a ui i'm working on |
| 18:11.37 | kadrahil | need suggestions - http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=16jj3v5&s=3 |
| 18:11.46 | kadrahil | it's like 5 seconds long |
| 18:12.24 | kadrahil | i think the castbars are too big |
| 18:13.19 | kergoth | Maldivia: heh :) habit |
| 18:16.29 | kergoth | checked with luac and SETGLOBAL, 32 addons out of these 320 create a global _ |
| 18:16.50 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 18:18.49 | Elkano | kergoth, any of mine under them? |
| 18:20.38 | kergoth | doesnt look like it, but i'm not running ebb anymore. wowace should set up a pre commit hook to warn you of added globals (not error, just warn), or something. heh. course norganna's svn's set up jira tickets when globals are created, i think, thats kind of nifty |
| 18:21.13 | Kaso | kergoth, yah i guess you're right about the local _ for some reason doing local _,var =func didnt occur to me, point conceded, though the setglobal _ is pretty bad |
| 18:22.03 | kergoth | yea, there's quite a bit of global namespace pollution out there, i've seen a few addons die because of it, stepping on each others toes |
| 18:22.04 | kergoth | heh |
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| 18:25.10 | Kaso | i wonder how hard it'd be to alter the lua source to make a version that locals by default rather than globals be default.. |
| 18:26.10 | foxlit | It's not so much that |
| 18:26.22 | foxlit | you can easily wrap things in own environments |
| 18:26.43 | foxlit | so their "globals" would actually be separate from true globals |
| 18:26.50 | foxlit | It's how much you'd break by doing that :P |
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| 18:31.50 | malreth | it's malreth! |
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| 18:31.59 | Maldivia | kergoth: I found Cartographer_QuestObjectives, CECB (main, Debuffs, PvPModule), ParserLib, DBM (API, Maulgar), DrDamage, Fubar_ToFu, sct, SmartyCat... so ok, a few :) |
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| 18:52.31 | Lunessa | ... station! |
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| 18:54.05 | kergoth | foxlit: the problem with that is remember to localize all the actual globals before switching environments, otherwise you'd have to access your globals through a metatable on your env which has __index=_G or so |
| 18:54.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:54.11 | kergoth | just more trouble than its worth |
| 19:03.30 | Lunessa | la la la! La-la-la la! La-la-la-lah-lala-la! Stupid theme song to The Banana Splits is stuck in my head. |
| 19:03.57 | malreth | Lunessa: http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/ |
| 19:04.22 | Lunessa | ... |
| 19:04.34 | Lunessa | Banana who? |
| 19:04.35 | malreth | i had fun on sunday |
| 19:04.55 | malreth | i'm sorry... i can't hear you. I have a banana in my ear. |
| 19:05.01 | Crysli | local f = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 19:05.01 | Crysli | f:RegisterEvent("MERCHANT_SHOW") |
| 19:05.01 | Crysli | f:SetScript("OnEvent",function() |
| 19:05.01 | Crysli | item = "Rune of Portals" |
| 19:05.01 | Crysli | amount = 6-GetItemCount(item)amount |
| 19:05.02 | Crysli | _,_,_,_,_,_,_,stack = GetItemInfo(item) |
| 19:05.04 | Crysli | for c = 1,GetMerchantNumItems() do |
| 19:05.06 | Crysli | name,_,_,quantity = GetMerchantItemInfo(c) |
| 19:05.08 | Crysli | if name == item then |
| 19:05.08 | Lunessa | She's.... SMOKING |
| 19:05.08 | malreth | flood! |
| 19:05.10 | Crysli | for r = 1,ceil((amount/stack)/quantity) do |
| 19:05.12 | Crysli | BuyMerchantItem(c,amount>=stack and stack/quantity or ceil(amount/quantity)) |
| 19:05.14 | Crysli | amount = amount-stack |
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| 19:05.16 | Crysli | end |
| 19:05.17 | malreth | FLOOD! |
| 19:05.18 | Crysli | end |
| 19:05.20 | Crysli | end |
| 19:05.22 | Crysli | end) |
| 19:05.24 | Crysli | ... |
| 19:05.26 | Crysli | Wow. |
| 19:05.28 | Crysli | Wrong copypaste :D |
| 19:05.30 | Shirik|Ecole | so yeah |
| 19:05.35 | Shirik|Ecole | hi |
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| 19:05.44 | ralfWORK | who r fizzboy |
| 19:05.46 | malreth | Lunessa: yes... check out the pics of natalie |
| 19:06.20 | Shirik|Ecole | ?? |
| 19:06.23 | malreth | i'm fizzboy, aka honoo flammen, aka malreth, aka nekowafer... i'm known by all those names but never by the name, "pun'kin" |
| 19:06.34 | Lunessa | malreth: You've been holding out. You has hot friends and you don't introduce me. |
| 19:06.44 | Shirik|Ecole | wtb ss |
| 19:07.07 | malreth | Lunessa: they're not my friends... we just arranged to get some girls from modelmayham.com |
| 19:07.23 | Lunessa | Oh, well... damn. HOT anyway |
| 19:07.37 | ralfWORK | uh oh, pics of lunessa |
| 19:07.46 | ralfWORK | btw, hyde park CO? |
| 19:08.19 | malreth | ralfWORK: yes... hyde park bar and grill |
| 19:08.28 | ralfWORK | malreth: mm cool |
| 19:08.49 | ralfWORK | I've been through there like... 15 years ago lol |
| 19:09.29 | Shirik|Ecole | Lunessa: Photography's fun |
| 19:09.41 | Lunessa | Hah, the shot malreth took of me at that outing is one of the best shots ever taken of me. It makes me look good. |
| 19:10.07 | malreth | Lunessa: that's because i photoshopped someone else where you were sitting |
| 19:10.12 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 19:10.16 | Crysli | hahahahaha |
| 19:10.19 | Lunessa | Shirik|Ecole: Yeah, I was into it as a pre-teen, but I put it aside when I discovered gaming. |
| 19:10.26 | Lunessa | damn. |
| 19:10.36 | Shirik|Ecole | TC, Iriel, and I still have fun with it :) |
| 19:10.45 | Lunessa | Now I can't tell Cog to look for the guy in the hat when we meet in Kemah tonight. |
| 19:10.48 | Shirik|Ecole | though we're all nuts so we don't take pictures of girls |
| 19:11.00 | malreth | going to kemah? |
| 19:11.06 | malreth | mm... seafood |
| 19:11.22 | Lunessa | Yeah, but no fish for me. |
| 19:11.33 | |pez| | aww - http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h184/annemarieaudunson/lion_cat.jpg |
| 19:11.39 | malreth | put it's friday? |
| 19:11.46 | malreth | s/put/but/ |
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| 19:11.56 | Lunessa | You could, knock off work early, get in the car, drive fast and meet us. |
| 19:12.13 | malreth | no... too busy with wedding crap |
| 19:12.26 | malreth | we're sending out invitations |
| 19:12.55 | malreth | every one of them has to be stamped with these special name stamps that Jane got for us in China... handmade |
| 19:12.56 | Lunessa | Cog's in-laws killed the weekend meeting, so we arranged this - they're coming too, because, hey.. Kemah. |
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| 19:13.12 | Lunessa | Nice. That's different. |
| 19:13.24 | malreth | it's a nice effect when you open the invitation |
| 19:13.43 | malreth | inside the inner envelope is a second inner envelope that's translucent |
| 19:13.59 | malreth | you can see our names printed, the wedding date, and big bold RED stamps |
| 19:14.06 | Crysli | And inside that is a pop-up greeting card |
| 19:14.16 | malreth | Crysli: and anthrax |
| 19:14.22 | Crysli | That, too. |
| 19:16.25 | Crysli | When, sometime in the future, I'm getting married, I'm going to send out those singing telegrams as invitations. |
| 19:17.03 | Crysli | Imagine opening your door and finding a giant teddy bear singing an invitation for you. |
| 19:17.17 | malreth | teddy ruxpin! |
| 19:17.38 | malreth | "IS THIS LEGAL?!?" "Bearly." |
| 19:17.44 | ScytheBlade1 | malreth: lol |
| 19:18.54 | malreth | we're going ahead with the apple imac lab proposal, btw, Lunessa |
| 19:19.06 | Lunessa | YES. |
| 19:19.19 | malreth | we got a price from apple that can only be described as "highly aggressive" |
| 19:19.24 | Lunessa | If you guys pull it off, I'm going to try to talk one of the lab managers here into it. |
| 19:19.26 | malreth | that's all i can say about it right now |
| 19:20.08 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 19:20.32 | Lunessa | But let me know if it happens. If I can convince one of the directors here that it will save him money.... |
| 19:20.36 | malreth | i'm a little pessimistic about it getting approved by upper management |
| 19:21.37 | malreth | for added good luck, i've resolved myself to not shower or shave until the end of the month when we will have an answer from the suits higher up on the org chart |
| 19:23.09 | malreth | why's everyone backing away? |
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| 19:24.55 | Falcon213 | what's the error "attempt to call a table value" supposed to mean? |
| 19:25.02 | Falcon213 | on this code: for frame in mobFrames do frame:Hide(); end |
| 19:25.57 | Lunessa | malreth: ... have these lemon-scented wet napkins... a gift from us to you. |
| 19:26.35 | Lunessa | OnUpdate ( ) malreth:Hide( ) ; |
| 19:27.18 | malreth | >>> frame.Hide = 3; print(frame:Hide()) |
| 19:27.19 | zenzelezz | they're scented because you smell |
| 19:27.29 | malreth | lua> frame.Hide = 3; print(frame:Hide()) |
| 19:27.29 | lua_bot | malreth: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 19:27.55 | malreth | lua> frame = {}; frame.Hide = 3; print(frame:Hide()) |
| 19:27.55 | lua_bot | malreth: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'Hide' (a number value) |
| 19:28.05 | malreth | meh... nm |
| 19:28.09 | Falcon213 | lol |
| 19:28.44 | malreth | lua> frame = {}; print(frame:Hide()) |
| 19:28.45 | lua_bot | malreth: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'Hide' (a nil value) |
| 19:29.01 | malreth | Falcon213: the error means you did something WROGN!!!#!# |
| 19:29.12 | lagger | whats are srcFlags and dstFlags suppose to represent |
| 19:29.27 | Falcon213 | wow thanks |
| 19:29.29 | Falcon213 | =P |
| 19:29.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lagger: read page 9 of the 2.4 UI changes thread |
| 19:30.23 | lagger | o |
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| 19:30.57 | malreth | http://www.scribd.com/doc/1183725/best-pictures-2007 |
| 19:30.58 | lagger | so i use bit.band and include the flags and my filter |
| 19:31.04 | Lunessa | malreth: UR not doin it rite! |
| 19:31.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Falcon213: try: for _, v in pairs(mobFrames) do v:Hide() end |
| 19:32.19 | Falcon213 | k |
| 19:33.24 | MentalPower | lua> local t = {} t() |
| 19:33.25 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: attempt to call local 't' (a table value) |
| 19:33.38 | MentalPower | lua> {}() |
| 19:33.38 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '{' |
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| 19:33.46 | MentalPower | lua> t = {} t() |
| 19:33.47 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: attempt to call global 't' (a table value) |
| 19:33.58 | MentalPower | malreth, Falcon213: ^^^^ |
| 19:34.38 | Falcon213 | that seems to have worked |
| 19:34.41 | MentalPower | lua> t = {} setmetatable(t, {__call = print}) t("hello") |
| 19:34.41 | lua_bot | MentalPower: table: 0x62db20, hello |
| 19:34.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Falcon213: yeah, don't use for loops |
| 19:35.06 | MentalPower | lua> t = {} setmetatable(t, {__call = function(t, ...) return print(...) end}) t("hello") |
| 19:35.07 | lua_bot | MentalPower: hello |
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| 19:40.49 | Falcon213 | is something wrong with the generic for, or was I just using it incorrectly? |
| 19:41.19 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc that's depreciated |
| 19:41.38 | Falcon213 | I thought table.foreach was depreciated >_< |
| 19:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | pairs() and ipairs() returns key, value pairs for a table |
| 19:42.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not the resident lua expert :) |
| 19:42.09 | Falcon213 | =] |
| 19:42.15 | ScytheBlade1 | But, it works for you |
| 19:42.16 | ScytheBlade1 | So enjoy |
| 19:42.35 | |Pixel| | that's for k,v in t which has been removed from lua 5.0 to lua 5.1 |
| 19:43.20 | MentalPower | lua> table |
| 19:43.20 | lua_bot | MentalPower: table: 0x6322b0 |
| 19:43.28 | MentalPower | lua> table.foreach |
| 19:43.28 | lua_bot | MentalPower: function: 0x62a3e0 |
| 19:43.48 | MentalPower | hmm... I thought that one died, oh well I guess it will in 5.2 |
| 19:44.07 | |Pixel| | well |
| 19:44.16 | |Pixel| | that one is a lualib addition |
| 19:44.26 | |Pixel| | it's not the same thing as a language syntax |
| 19:44.43 | |Pixel| | so even if it's removed from the library, you can still re-add it manually or so |
| 19:48.39 | Crysli | Aaargh our relatives are here |
| 19:50.19 | Falcon213 | I should join the lua mailing list |
| 19:50.25 | Lunessa | There is no joy like /family/ ! |
| 19:50.33 | Falcon213 | request that generic for be able to iterate over a table |
| 19:50.36 | Falcon213 | it just makes sense |
| 19:51.04 | |Pixel| | generic for is way more generic than just iterating over a table :) |
| 19:51.42 | zenzelezz | to put it in lolcat terms; generic for cat is generic |
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| 19:51.47 | cladhaire | Falcon213: no it doesn't. |
| 19:51.49 | Falcon213 | either that or foreach should be re-implemented as a keyword |
| 19:51.53 | cladhaire | why? |
| 19:52.00 | cladhaire | we already have iterators that do that for us |
| 19:52.07 | cladhaire | you'd be over-specifying the "generic" for loop |
| 19:53.16 | Falcon213 | but to someone who doesn't know lua, for k,v in pairs doesn't make any sense |
| 19:53.28 | cladhaire | so? |
| 19:53.30 | Falcon213 | *pairs(t) |
| 19:53.31 | zenzelezz | it's not the language's fault you didn't read up on it |
| 19:53.35 | cladhaire | neither do any of the other specifics of the lanmguage |
| 19:53.38 | cladhaire | b ut somehow you were okay with those :;p |
| 19:54.21 | cladhaire | i'm always shocked when i agree with zenzelezz |
| 19:54.25 | Falcon213 | I'm not saying it's not livable, I'm saying it's not elegant |
| 19:54.29 | cladhaire | i have to make sure i'm not trolling ;-) |
| 19:54.33 | cladhaire | Falcon213: and i disagree with you |
| 19:54.39 | cladhaire | the way generic for loops work now is EXTREMELY elegant |
| 19:55.12 | cladhaire | perhaps you should write an iterator, and see for yourself |
| 19:55.22 | |Pixel| | and lua possess already enough syntax candies ;) |
| 19:55.30 | cladhaire | but the lack of a keyword-based table iterator is hardly a "flaw" in lua |
| 19:55.43 | |Pixel| | even though this wouldn't exactly be a "syntax candy" |
| 19:56.24 | Falcon213 | I disagree, but that's just me |
| 19:56.42 | Falcon213 | though I wouldn't go so far as to call it a flaw |
| 19:57.03 | cladhaire | what you call elegance, others call ugly |
| 19:57.05 | cladhaire | and i think it would be ugly =/ |
| 19:58.19 | |Pixel| | /agree |
| 19:58.23 | cladhaire | lua> t = setmetatable({1,2,3,4}, {__call=function(t) return pairs(t) end}) for k,v in t() do print(k,v) end |
| 19:58.23 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4 |
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| 19:59.09 | lagger | CombatLogAddFilter("events", "srcGUID" or srcMask, "dstGUID" or dstMask) |
| 19:59.11 | lagger | whats a mask? |
| 19:59.29 | lagger | is that a bit value |
| 19:59.30 | kergoth | Falcon213: old versions of the language let you do for k,v in t do.. somehow i doubt they're going to revert something they changed on purpose and with good reason |
| 20:02.01 | dylanm | Custom iterators are awesome. I guess you could do it the way python does it, which has decent default behavior. |
| 20:03.33 | Lunessa | Falcon213: - That's like saying that "it's like those French have a different word for /everything/." |
| 20:03.53 | Falcon213 | ... |
| 20:03.54 | |Pixel| | well, note that custom iterators were there in lua 5.0 already |
| 20:04.09 | |Pixel| | they only removed the syntax candy that allowed you to have a table instead of an iterator |
| 20:04.11 | Falcon213 | you lost me there Lunessa |
| 20:04.11 | Xinhuan | hehe, my latest few addons all use custom iterators, just cos they are so awesome for customizing a loop to your exact needs |
| 20:04.55 | Lunessa | Falcon - saying that lua should use a different keyword is like complaining that the French speak French. |
| 20:05.06 | Xinhuan | hey kergoth, i redid the loops slightly so they now show up on all the continent maps ;p |
| 20:05.16 | Xinhuan | and you can see neighboring zones for flightmasters hehe |
| 20:05.28 | kergoth | ah, nice |
| 20:05.42 | Xinhuan | i'll add options for the line drawing sometime tonight |
| 20:05.48 | kergoth | did clad fix up tomtom last night? |
| 20:05.50 | kergoth | (please) |
| 20:05.55 | cladhaire | i did some work today |
| 20:06.00 | cladhaire | what are you looking for specifically? |
| 20:06.31 | Xinhuan | i believe he wants something that has the exact same functionality as Carto_waypoints |
| 20:06.52 | dylanm | I like that it forces you to think about any sort of iteration in terms of states... I mean as soon as you go looking into what pairs() and ipairs() do you learn a lot. |
| 20:06.54 | Xinhuan | i.e set a location as a waypoint, have a 3d-like sprite animated arrow pointing towards it |
| 20:07.11 | dylanm | I kinda came late to the game so I didn't even know about the old way of doing it. |
| 20:07.15 | kergoth | i know tomtom has that, but its quirky, and the blips dont show up on the map, at least last time it ried it |
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| 20:07.33 | cladhaire | trunk has all of that |
| 20:07.35 | Xinhuan | dylanm, or you can stump new lua coders by writing all your loops as "for k, v in next, t do" :D |
| 20:07.37 | cladhaire | but its a but rough around the edges |
| 20:07.45 | cladhaire | i'll finish it up tonight (config) |
| 20:07.46 | Xinhuan | and it will save one function call!!! |
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| 20:07.48 | dylanm | Xinhuan: I do love that. |
| 20:07.50 | cladhaire | and get the API fixed up tomorrow |
| 20:07.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:08.00 | kergoth | cladhaire: nice, glad to ehar it |
| 20:08.04 | cladhaire | check out trunk |
| 20:08.06 | cladhaire | with the /tomtom command |
| 20:08.09 | cladhaire | and let me know if any options are missing |
| 20:08.10 | Xinhuan | since all pairs(t) does is "return next, t, nil" anyway |
| 20:08.14 | cladhaire | and i'll get the rest of things fixed up :P |
| 20:08.44 | dylanm | Do they not serve the same purpose? |
| 20:08.49 | Xinhuan | oh i'm adding both tomtom (when cladhaire ups it to wowi) and carto_waypoints |
| 20:08.57 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:09.00 | dylanm | I haven't tried this HandyNotes deal. Nevermind me. |
| 20:09.13 | kergoth | dylanm: handynotes is like cartographer_notes |
| 20:09.17 | kergoth | tis nifty |
| 20:09.18 | Xinhuan | its still "under construction" |
| 20:09.42 | dylanm | __iter__ oh God Python why |
| 20:09.50 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:10.22 | kergoth | i never did like __foo__ style. i just dont like sharing a namespace between special methods and regular ones, going by naming convention.. just feels.. icky |
| 20:11.07 | kergoth | hmm, does prat add substitution strings for macros? if so i suppose i could drop macrotalk from my collection |
| 20:11.15 | Xinhuan | hmm 141kb for the handynotes core addon + core plugin |
| 20:11.42 | Xinhuan | hmm that's with about 60 frames created |
| 20:12.41 | Xinhuan | i also kinda like the new chinchilla borders and minimap blips |
| 20:13.31 | kergoth | chinchilla borders? |
| 20:13.37 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 20:13.48 | Xinhuan | Chinchilla is the new minimap addon that ck wrote |
| 20:14.03 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:14.43 | Xinhuan | you can check his thread for screenshots of a lot of neat things |
| 20:14.51 | Xinhuan | and minimap border arts |
| 20:15.07 | kergoth | i'll give ck that, his stuff ends up somewhat bloaty and often way too flexible, but there are often nifty things thrown in |
| 20:15.13 | kergoth | like cowtip's ability to chang ethe tooltip's font |
| 20:15.45 | Xinhuan | ck's addons are more the "power user" type, where its kinda just so flexible you can do anything with it |
| 20:16.00 | cladhaire | which comes at a cost |
| 20:16.03 | cladhaire | sadly |
| 20:16.20 | kergoth | indeed |
| 20:16.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. Pitbull... nice, but, not interested |
| 20:16.48 | cladhaire | he (and others) used to make fun of Lozareth |
| 20:16.57 | cladhaire | who wrote nice compact code, but had every feature under teh sun |
| 20:17.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:17.05 | cladhaire | I fail to see how his addons are not the "new" Discord |
| 20:17.06 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 20:17.14 | Xinhuan | i only use fubar and chinchilla at the moment, for rock addons |
| 20:17.15 | kergoth | Xinhuan: should grab the good textures and the blip changing bits out of chinchilla then, so dont have to use it :P |
| 20:17.17 | cladhaire | Cart being the perfect example |
| 20:17.20 | dylanm | Is he still getting people's hopes up every other month or so? |
| 20:17.30 | cladhaire | dylanm: lol :P |
| 20:17.30 | dylanm | Loz, I mean. |
| 20:17.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ag_UF ftw! |
| 20:18.25 | Xinhuan | cladhaire, i do think that's a bit unfair though, because cartographer is the "first addon of its kind" to have multiple modules and integrated module support to allow other authors to do anything |
| 20:18.26 | Lunessa | Loz wrote good code, but his interface for using it ... needed help. CK is writing neat addons... which again a interface to using them issue. |
| 20:18.47 | Fin | [21:13:06] <kergoth> hmm, does prat add substitution strings for macros? if so i suppose i could drop macrotalk from my collection |
| 20:18.51 | Fin | yes |
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| 20:18.56 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: I would disagree with that statement, but that's fine we can agree to disagree |
| 20:19.02 | cladhaire | extensible module systems weren't new |
| 20:19.04 | cladhaire | with cart |
| 20:19.07 | kergoth | Fin: mmk, thanks |
| 20:19.07 | Xinhuan | if CK didn't include half of the stuff in cartographer in its core distribution, i think it would be pretty perfect |
| 20:19.14 | Xinhuan | i think that's the issue with many people? |
| 20:19.18 | Lunessa | I <3 me some Pitbull, but setting it up from scratch makes me want to cut myself. |
| 20:19.20 | dylanm | cladhaire: I know you've noticed it. I may check his forums now just to see which season it is. |
| 20:19.25 | kergoth | what annoys me with cart is that so many modules are interdependent |
| 20:19.27 | Fin | kergoth: there's stuff that MacroTalk that Prat's Substitutions module doesn't do, tho |
| 20:19.30 | kergoth | disable one and others just explode |
| 20:19.46 | cladhaire | kergoth: yep |
| 20:19.48 | cladhaire | "fake" modularity |
| 20:19.50 | cladhaire | you can have the entire thing |
| 20:19.52 | cladhaire | or spend 10 years getting hjust the one feature you want |
| 20:19.54 | cladhaire | without having it blow up |
| 20:19.56 | cladhaire | that's NOT modularity :P |
| 20:19.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:19.58 | Xinhuan | all the profession modules need _Professions hehe |
| 20:20.03 | Xinhuan | as that is the loading stub |
| 20:20.04 | cladhaire | some of his other things have come out really well |
| 20:20.09 | Xinhuan | and all of them need _Notes |
| 20:20.15 | Fin | Lunessa: and the profile sharing thingy doesn't let you copy profiles properly :( |
| 20:20.15 | kergoth | well, _professions started as basically just a LoadManager, before loadmanagers existed |
| 20:20.17 | cladhaire | but I think cart, considering it was written because "all of the other map mods were so bloated" |
| 20:20.18 | cladhaire | it silly |
| 20:20.19 | kergoth | to load them based on what profs you had |
| 20:20.27 | kergoth | it didnt ned to be a cart module really |
| 20:20.30 | Fin | not an easy problem to solve tho |
| 20:21.25 | Xinhuan | it was also the module to enable/disable the modules based on your active buffs |
| 20:21.30 | Xinhuan | like detect veins |
| 20:21.46 | dylanm | Nooo the discord site is gone or something. |
| 20:21.59 | dylanm | It was always good for a laugh. |
| 20:22.35 | Xinhuan | what i did different is i offloaded the icons to display to the plugins themselves so they can do anything they want, instead of the core doing it |
| 20:23.39 | Xinhuan | cladhaire, does tomtom use astrolabe? |
| 20:23.44 | cladhaire | yeppers |
| 20:23.53 | Xinhuan | nice, since handynotes also uses that |
| 20:24.11 | dylanm | You guys can embed together. |
| 20:24.26 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 20:24.29 | Xinhuan | i know esamynn is going to libstub it sometime |
| 20:24.30 | cladhaire | where in the hell do i change textures |
| 20:24.36 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: as soon as one of us does it for him |
| 20:25.04 | Xinhuan | the code is fairly independant and transferable |
| 20:25.14 | Xinhuan | donglestub and libstub are pretty much the same |
| 20:25.34 | Lunessa | *headdesk* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4822933726&sid=1 |
| 20:25.50 | Xinhuan | i did give him a heap of suggestions for code improvement and optimization |
| 20:25.58 | Xinhuan | which i hope he implements this weekend |
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| 20:26.47 | dylanm | "I was trying to create a macro that would repeatedly cast Scorch on an enemy, and then switch targets when it dies." |
| 20:27.02 | Lunessa | Hello, help me bot. |
| 20:27.06 | Shirik|Ecole | tbh |
| 20:27.08 | Shirik|Ecole | that's possible |
| 20:27.26 | Lunessa | Sure, but not the way he's doing it. |
| 20:27.27 | dylanm | It very well may be but I just like how he plays his mage is all. |
| 20:27.38 | Shirik|Ecole | oh I don't care about that |
| 20:27.42 | Shirik|Ecole | mages that suck = easier for me to win |
| 20:28.01 | Xinhuan | a mage that sucks might be better than one that always pulls aggro ;p |
| 20:28.17 | Shirik|Ecole | a mage that doesn't suck doesn't pull aggro |
| 20:28.26 | Lunessa | My mage, sucks. |
| 20:28.45 | Lopeppeppy | My mage... nevermind! |
| 20:28.48 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:28.58 | Xinhuan | ooh you play a mage too Lopeppeppy? |
| 20:29.15 | Lopeppeppy | Of course. A little draeni blaster-wench. |
| 20:29.21 | Lopeppeppy | She's a baby though. |
| 20:29.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ blaster-wench |
| 20:29.28 | Xinhuan | what is your main's class |
| 20:29.30 | dylanm | I just mana burn them regardless of skill. |
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| 20:30.23 | Lunessa | ... |
| 20:30.23 | Lopeppeppy | My personal main is Peppy the rogue. My raiding main is my paladin. |
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| 20:30.31 | Xinhuan | he can summon some himself |
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| 20:31.33 | Lopeppeppy | No, she's just a baby and can't make very nice water. Lunessa just likes her because she makes sheeps. |
| 20:31.53 | Xinhuan | turtles > sheeps |
| 20:32.00 | Xinhuan | proof: |
| 20:32.06 | Lunessa | that turtle spell makes me cry. |
| 20:32.09 | Xinhuan | lua> "turtles" > "sheeps" |
| 20:32.09 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
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| 20:33.05 | Lopeppeppy | She's totally not old enough to even go sniffing near stranglethorn, much less ZG itself for a turkle book. |
| 20:33.21 | dylanm | The next party I host I'm putting "Unique (5)" on all the bottles. |
| 20:33.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:40.45 | foxlit | How accessible is SharedMediaLib to non-ace architectures? |
| 20:40.56 | kergoth | libsharedmedia-3.0 is libstub |
| 20:41.00 | dylanm | 2.0 is independent. |
| 20:41.01 | kergoth | doesnt need ace at all |
| 20:41.04 | kergoth | 2.0 is too, yea |
| 20:41.10 | dylanm | There's a 3.0? |
| 20:41.14 | dylanm | THINGS ARE MOVING TOO FAST |
| 20:41.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:41.19 | foxlit | What's my best of coding against? |
| 20:41.51 | dylanm | What's better about 3.0? |
| 20:42.05 | Keias | Higher number! |
| 20:42.09 | Keias | owait |
| 20:42.16 | Keias | I dunno actually :( |
| 20:42.35 | foxlit | http://aceaddons.curse.com/LibSharedMedia-2.0.html ? |
| 20:42.52 | foxlit | Didn't know curse had anything ace-specific |
| 20:43.03 | dylanm | It's a "brand". |
| 20:43.30 | dylanm | I think the only two are Cosmos and Ace but yeah. |
| 20:44.17 | foxlit | Can only find docs for SharedMediaLib-1.0 :( |
| 20:44.21 | Keias | nurfed is still around too |
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| 20:44.31 | dylanm | lol docs. |
| 20:45.00 | dylanm | The code for LSM is really, really short. That's not to say that it shouldn't have documentation but don't be afraid of reading it. |
| 20:45.52 | kergoth | theres not much to it, its just a set of tables. you can register a string of a given type, or retrieve it |
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| 20:46.05 | kergoth | with some stuff for the default blizzard content, and defaults/overrides |
| 20:46.08 | foxlit | just a global table? |
| 20:46.13 | dylanm | Hm it seems like 3.0 doesn't do the upgrading stuff. |
| 20:46.20 | dylanm | Which is fine with me. |
| 20:46.52 | Xinhuan | 3.0 is a total rewrite |
| 20:47.12 | dylanm | I noticed the use of CallbackHandler. |
| 20:47.17 | kergoth | callbackhandler is awesome |
| 20:47.21 | Xinhuan | 2.0 is just a libstub ported version of 1.0 and left out something major (callbacks for notifying addons about updated registered options) |
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| 20:47.27 | Xinhuan | so 3.0 was rewritten to include that |
| 20:48.21 | dylanm | Definitely useful for config and stuff. |
| 20:48.41 | dylanm | 3.0 has some tests too, so that could help you foxlit |
| 20:49.04 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.39 | cladhaire | can anyone show me an example use of CBH |
| 20:51.44 | cladhaire | i think it could simplify something i'm doing at the moment |
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| 20:53.00 | Antiarc | Is the PTR down? |
| 20:53.08 | Antiarc | kergoth: Me too :D |
| 20:53.15 | foxlit | Oh wow |
| 20:53.20 | foxlit | I had that syntax for ages :P |
| 20:55.42 | batrick | cladhaire: I got the impression you intend to add it |
| 20:55.55 | cladhaire | not in particular |
| 20:55.59 | cladhaire | whats the issue youran into? |
| 20:57.15 | batrick | well debug.getlocal will allow them to access your real global environment unless you're really careful |
| 20:57.31 | cladhaire | that isn't a problem for me |
| 20:57.32 | batrick | above what's normal |
| 20:57.36 | cladhaire | they haev the real global environment |
| 20:57.58 | batrick | they'll be able to access penv |
| 20:58.11 | batrick | from your code |
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| 20:58.52 | cladhaire | how? |
| 20:59.20 | cladhaire | by accessing it as an upvalue to the exposed print function? |
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| 21:00.13 | batrick | well currently they don't need to even go that far |
| 21:00.28 | batrick | they can access the penv local simply by climbing the stack to your script function's location |
| 21:01.45 | cladhaire | Meh, wasn't planning on exposing it either way |
| 21:01.53 | batrick | well there is a simple solution |
| 21:02.06 | batrick | make the part where you execute their script a function |
| 21:02.15 | batrick | and then at the end of your script do return function() |
| 21:02.22 | batrick | and that clears all the local information |
| 21:02.44 | cladhaire | hrm, interesting. |
| 21:11.04 | Atriace | How do you pass a function argument as a object name? |
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| 21:11.49 | Xinhuan | Atriace, rephrase that? heh |
| 21:11.54 | Xinhuan | and what language |
| 21:12.17 | Atriace | Lua and example: |
| 21:12.17 | Atriace | function Foo(arg1) |
| 21:12.17 | Atriace | arg1:SetTexture(etc...) |
| 21:12.17 | Atriace | end |
| 21:12.37 | Xinhuan | arg1 is a variable |
| 21:12.57 | Xinhuan | so if the variable you pass in is a texture object, then arg1:SetTexture() is a valid function call |
| 21:13.06 | Atriace | Or better yet: arg1_MySuffix:SetTexture() |
| 21:13.30 | Atriace | That's actually the point I'm at now. |
| 21:13.43 | Xinhuan | can't do that, unless you have a local arg1_MySuffix = (some texture object) |
| 21:13.57 | Atriace | Mmm |
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| 21:14.03 | Xinhuan | you can easily do |
| 21:14.13 | Xinhuan | arg.mytexture = (some texture object) |
| 21:14.28 | Xinhuan | arg.mytexture = arg1:CreateTexture(nil, "Artwork") -- for eg |
| 21:14.35 | Xinhuan | arg.mytexture:SetTexture(blah) |
| 21:14.38 | dylanm | You could grab from _G[arg1:GetName() .. "_MySuffix"] if need be. |
| 21:15.00 | Xinhuan | assuming its named that way |
| 21:15.08 | dylanm | That's generally only a pattern if you're messing with Blizzard's code. |
| 21:15.20 | dylanm | Or someone who looked at it and reallllly liked the style. |
| 21:15.58 | Atriace | I'm thinking Dylanm is hitting what I'm looking for. You see, I have a series of objects (fontstrings, textures, etc...) that are varied only by their prefix, so if I could pass that as an argument and leave the suffixes static, that'd be great. |
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| 21:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo |
| 21:22.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Downloading an OpenBSD ISO at 6MB/sec |
| 21:22.28 | foxlit | Anyone know what the LFG and LFM icons are? |
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| 21:22.52 | foxlit | (black outline of a person against an orange background, black outline of people against an orange background with a plus) |
| 21:24.26 | dylanm | foxlit: Looks like Interface\Icons\INV_Misc_GroupLooking and Interface\Icons\INV_Misc_GroupNeedMore. |
| 21:24.28 | MentalPower | foxlit: use the UI kit |
| 21:24.34 | MentalPower | or that |
| 21:24.39 | foxlit | MP: using the UI kit |
| 21:25.00 | foxlit | It's not exactly obvious; I was looking at LFGFrame |
| 21:25.12 | dylanm | Then look in the LFGFrame.xml. |
| 21:25.32 | Atriace | hehe |
| 21:26.07 | foxlit | Meh, code :( |
| 21:27.06 | malreth | http://lowercasel.blogspot.com/ |
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| 21:32.55 | Atriace | what does ::= mean? |
| 21:33.06 | Shirik|Ecole | Atriace: Defined as |
| 21:33.31 | Atriace | e.g.? |
| 21:33.46 | Shirik|Ecole | digit ::= '1' .. '9' |
| 21:33.55 | Shirik|Ecole | "digit" is defined as a character somewhere between 1 and 9 |
| 21:33.56 | Shirik|Ecole | which is wrong |
| 21:34.00 | Shirik|Ecole | but that's an example |
| 21:34.06 | Atriace | Thanks |
| 21:34.45 | Shirik|Ecole | address ::= streetaddress \n city, state zip |
| 21:34.45 | Shirik|Ecole | etc |
| 21:36.17 | dylanm | That's BNF-style or something innit? |
| 21:36.29 | dylanm | I wanted to say BNL but that's just a band apparently. |
| 21:37.02 | Shirik|Ecole | It's used in BNF yes |
| 21:37.07 | Shirik|Ecole | but ::= isn't limited to BNF |
| 21:37.09 | dylanm | Whatever they use in language specs all the time. |
| 21:38.02 | Shirik|Ecole | Fox news is so fking worthless |
| 21:38.26 | Shirik|Ecole | "Clinton spending 90 thousand dollars on hotels and party platters per stay" "What this could mean if she is elected?!" |
| 21:38.31 | Shirik|Ecole | Are you kidding me |
| 21:38.44 | malreth | i like to call it unnews |
| 21:38.49 | Shirik|Ecole | They're trying to translate this into "spending habits" that will hurt the economy |
| 21:38.51 | malreth | orwell would be proud of me |
| 21:39.25 | dylanm | Heh I hadn't even thought of that angle. |
| 21:39.26 | malreth | or perhaps we can call it fillerspeak |
| 21:39.34 | dylanm | On the Clinton spending, I mean. |
| 21:40.27 | malreth | ~seen intangir |
| 21:40.28 | purl | intangir <i=Intangir@c-98-197-209-214.hsd1.tx.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 7d 14h 39m 40s ago, saying: 'sweet thanks'. |
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| 21:41.24 | Shirik|Ecole | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331889,00.html |
| 21:41.25 | Shirik|Ecole | wow |
| 21:41.57 | dylanm | Oh wow. |
| 21:44.16 | Shirik|Ecole | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331991,00.html |
| 21:44.17 | Shirik|Ecole | ahahaha |
| 21:44.23 | Shirik|Ecole | man, the "news" is great today |
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| 21:46.39 | haste | I thought foxnews always was "news" |
| 21:46.42 | Cidan | All news, Fox, CNN, et al, is full of shit. |
| 21:47.05 | haste | I don't read either of those anyway :p |
| 21:48.28 | Shirik|Ecole | gotta run home before the storm gets here |
| 21:48.29 | Shirik|Ecole | bbl |
| 21:48.47 | ralfWORK | Shirik|Ecole: yea the coma one rocks |
| 21:52.46 | foxlit | hm |
| 21:52.57 | foxlit | I may have a possible bug |
| 21:53.08 | foxlit | CheckButton:SetDisabledCheckedTexture("Interface\\Buttons\\CheckButtonGlow") |
| 21:53.17 | foxlit | CheckButton:GetDisabledCheckedTexture() == nil |
| 21:53.57 | foxlit | It appears to mess with CheckedTexture instead |
| 21:54.33 | foxlit | [Live client] |
| 21:57.04 | dylanm | Interesting. |
| 21:58.04 | foxlit | More annoying, I can't code around it in a reasonable fashion :( |
| 22:01.10 | dylanm | Does anyone actually ever use this? Interesting. |
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| 22:03.02 | Tuller | so yes: http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/issues/detail?id=100 |
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| 22:03.48 | Tuller | I wonder how i can say more than, "bongos will not cause your characters to appear naked" |
| 22:03.49 | dylanm | Naked... |
| 22:03.51 | foxlit | dylanm: I do, it's useful |
| 22:03.52 | Shirik | wow |
| 22:04.03 | foxlit | I can disable entire selection controls by disabling the child checkboxes. |
| 22:04.06 | dylanm | foxlit: No I mean just googling and searching the FrameXML it doesn't come up. |
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| 22:04.21 | foxlit | It's on wowwiki, though |
| 22:04.29 | foxlit | And the functions seem to be defined, even if not working properly |
| 22:06.49 | dylanm | Looking through AceGUI/Config which would seem like a candidate for this sort of thing there's nothing like that when searching for Set\w*?Texture |
| 22:06.57 | dylanm | Odd. Maybe everyone realized that it didn't work. |
| 22:07.24 | Shirik | uh |
| 22:07.26 | Nargiddley | I just desaturate the texture when its disabled from memory |
| 22:07.29 | Shirik | what did you use to do that search? |
| 22:07.30 | Shirik | grep? |
| 22:07.31 | foxlit | I'll go write some demo code, can post it on UI forums afterwards |
| 22:07.37 | foxlit | Nargiddley: messy |
| 22:07.59 | foxlit | Especially when you've got a whole lot of them; it's a lot prettier to piggy-back on the :Disable() call on the checkbutton |
| 22:08.39 | Nargiddley | from the codes perspective its always a single checkbox anyway since its abstracted into a widget |
| 22:08.45 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2008/02/top-11-ways-sony-plans-to-celebrate-their-blu-ray-victory.html |
| 22:09.12 | Nargiddley | and the same widget handles 3 state checkboxes, so it would get messy anyway |
| 22:09.31 | dylanm | Shirik: Naw, I had it open in Textmate so I did it there. |
| 22:10.50 | malreth | http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/for-research-paper-read-it-crowd-3/ |
| 22:12.13 | dylanm | Which uses http://www.geocities.jp/kosako3/oniguruma/doc/RE.txt. I don't think that grep has those character classes. |
| 22:12.23 | dylanm | Which is fine when I'm using it but yeah I didn't type in something totally dumb :p |
| 22:12.35 | foxlit | Hm, interesting |
| 22:12.41 | foxlit | Doing the same thing with pure lua works |
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| 22:28.11 | [Liquidor] | http://armory.artoman.com/index.php?s=test |
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| 22:41.26 | Olison | does anyone know a healing/damage done total addon for the bg scoreboard? |
| 22:41.29 | foxlit | http://foxlit.pastey.net/82794 : bring me to slouken :) |
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| 22:42.02 | TecnoBrat | [Liquidor], your style is all wrong |
| 22:42.13 | TecnoBrat | Here, I'll help |
| 22:42.21 | Olison | ~seen chexsum |
| 22:42.25 | purl | chexsum is currently on #wowace (4d 6h 42m 6s). Has said a total of 151 messages. Is idling for 7h 13m 6s, last said: 'thats easy to do with a graphic'. |
| 22:42.25 | TecnoBrat | [Liquidor], http://www.wowhead.com/?items |
| 22:42.57 | TecnoBrat | take the html and the css, change it a little, and bam! |
| 22:43.54 | [Liquidor] | will do some time however the tables.css is quite outdated and cba to bother with the styles atm |
| 22:44.02 | [Liquidor] | creating tons of classes atm |
| 22:44.33 | TecnoBrat | [Liquidor], you may also want to look at www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath |
| 22:44.40 | [Liquidor] | also gotta fix my ajax class as it appears to die after 5 calls |
| 22:44.42 | TecnoBrat | mixing that with wowhead could create a cool site |
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| 22:45.18 | [Liquidor] | lol TecnoBrat |
| 22:45.49 | [Liquidor] | TecnoBrat, checkout http://wowdb.com -.- |
| 22:46.03 | foxlit | Can someone post this on the US UI forums: http://foxlit.pastey.net/82794 ? |
| 22:46.05 | TecnoBrat | OH WOW |
| 22:46.15 | TecnoBrat | Thats exactly what I was thinking you could make! |
| 22:46.19 | foxlit | Just copy the comment/title and link to the pastey for code :) |
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| 22:46.59 | [Liquidor] | foxlit, which EU realm do you play at? |
| 22:47.12 | Shirik | [Liquidor]: You mean the site that looks exactly like wowhead |
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| 22:47.14 | [Liquidor] | TecnoBrat, why would I want to copy wowhead? |
| 22:47.26 | TecnoBrat | All the cool kids are doing it |
| 22:47.46 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 22:48.12 | foxlit | Emerald Dream |
| 22:48.17 | kd3 | bah, anyone see today's PTR patch yet? |
| 22:48.30 | [Liquidor] | the site i linked is just a small project to pull out wowarmory data and that's all... then import some of my old tools |
| 22:48.33 | Nechckn | I bet you find alot of that, eh TecnoBrat? |
| 22:48.53 | [Liquidor] | kd3, mmo-champion maybe |
| 22:49.25 | TecnoBrat | Nechckn, cool kids? or copying? |
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| 22:50.11 | kd3 | the actual patch, not just datamined info |
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| 22:55.04 | Falcon213 | lua>r = {}; t[#t + 1].a = 1 |
| 22:55.05 | lua_bot | Falcon213: luabot:1: attempt to get length of global 't' (a nil value) |
| 22:55.14 | Falcon213 | oops |
| 22:55.18 | Falcon213 | lua>t = {}; t[#t + 1].a = 1 |
| 22:55.19 | lua_bot | Falcon213: luabot:1: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 22:55.23 | Falcon213 | =/ |
| 22:57.27 | Shirik | t[#t+1] is nil |
| 22:57.31 | Shirik | you can't access t[#t+1][a] |
| 22:57.32 | Shirik | er |
| 22:57.35 | Shirik | you can't access t[#t+1]["a"] |
| 22:58.09 | Falcon213 | so how do I declare t[#t + 1] then? |
| 22:58.24 | kergoth | what do you mean? |
| 22:58.29 | kergoth | if you want it to be a table, make it a table. |
| 22:58.35 | kergoth | if you awnt it to be a string, make it a string |
| 22:58.39 | kergoth | t[#t + 1] = blah |
| 22:59.25 | Falcon213 | but I just need it's 3rd dimension |
| 22:59.30 | Falcon213 | t[x].a |
| 22:59.35 | kergoth | what? |
| 22:59.39 | kergoth | "dimension"? |
| 22:59.44 | foxlit | nested tables |
| 22:59.46 | Falcon213 | t[x]['a'] |
| 22:59.47 | kergoth | you cant look up t[x].a if t[x] doesnt exist. |
| 22:59.49 | kergoth | period. |
| 22:59.50 | foxlit | jagged tables |
| 22:59.51 | foxlit | evil |
| 22:59.55 | kergoth | t[x] = {} t[x].a = true |
| 23:00.23 | art3mis | http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/20/the-gears-of-war-nerf-lancer-modification-scares-a-locust-horde/ |
| 23:00.27 | Falcon213 | oh duh, I see my mistake |
| 23:00.30 | Falcon213 | I feel dumb |
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| 23:01.15 | Falcon213 | lua>t = {}; t[#t + 1] = {}; t[#t + 1].a = 1; print(t[#t + 1].a) |
| 23:01.16 | lua_bot | Falcon213: luabot:1: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 23:01.29 | Falcon213 | well maybe not |
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| 23:02.13 | ckknight | Anyone have the PTR Framexml diff yet? I forgot to extract the last version, so I can't do it :-P |
| 23:02.58 | kergoth | Falcon213: eh |
| 23:02.58 | Falcon213 | lua>t = {}; t[#t + 1] = {}; t[#t].a = 1; print(t[#t + 1].a) |
| 23:02.58 | lua_bot | Falcon213: luabot:1: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 23:03.03 | Falcon213 | lua>t = {}; t[#t + 1] = {}; t[#t].a = 1; print(t[#t].a) |
| 23:03.03 | lua_bot | Falcon213: 1 |
| 23:03.05 | kergoth | #t changed after you added your new element to it.. |
| 23:03.08 | Falcon213 | ahh there we go |
| 23:03.14 | kergoth | then you tried to index a nonexistant element again |
| 23:03.14 | Falcon213 | yeah another dumb mistake |
| 23:03.19 | Esamynn|Work | ckknight: http://wdnaddons.com/ should have it |
| 23:03.32 | art3mis | http://www.petercallesen.com/index/A4PAPERCUT_000.htm |
| 23:03.35 | Esamynn|Work | or was there a patch today? |
| 23:03.37 | foxlit | Still looking for someone to post http://foxlit.pastey.net/82794 on UI forums |
| 23:03.48 | foxlit | [Bug with CheckButton's DisabledCheckedTexture] |
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| 23:04.08 | ckknight | Esamynn|Work: there was a patch today |
| 23:04.09 | kd3 | I'm still waiting to get today's build |
| 23:04.11 | ckknight | that's why I'm asking |
| 23:04.16 | Esamynn|Work | k |
| 23:04.24 | Antiarc | Today's build isn't on the US PTR yet |
| 23:04.25 | ckknight | 0.4.0.7948-to-0.4.0.7958 |
| 23:04.31 | ckknight | Antiarc: yes it is. |
| 23:04.32 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 23:04.34 | Antiarc | Update just went up |
| 23:04.36 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 23:04.41 | ckknight | I just got it |
| 23:04.42 | Antiarc | 7.45 mb |
| 23:04.44 | kd3 | I'll have diffs in a few minutes, then |
| 23:05.08 | ckknight | awesomesauce |
| 23:06.13 | Lunessa | Ok folks. I'm off. Dinner with Cog and then home to play WoW. See you tomorrow. |
| 23:06.24 | kd3 | well-seeded torrents are <3 |
| 23:06.51 | Shirik | I love how you can win 7 straight games |
| 23:06.56 | Shirik | then lose 3 to a single team |
| 23:07.03 | Shirik | and end up less than what you were at |
| 23:07.08 | Shirik | Because of one team |
| 23:07.09 | Esamynn|Work | ouch |
| 23:07.14 | Shirik | Which seems to happen every week to us |
| 23:07.36 | Shirik | We'll beat 6 different teams, then get the same team all of the next 4 |
| 23:07.53 | Shirik | why can't we ever get the same team when we're winning? |
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| 23:10.30 | Wobin | art3mis: I -really- like "Cradle" |
| 23:10.50 | Wobin | and "Down the River" |
| 23:10.53 | Xinhuan | because, shirik, the matchmaking system isn't transparent enough |
| 23:10.54 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 23:11.32 | Antiarc | ERR_ALREADY_PICKPOCKETED = "Your target has already had its pockets picked"; |
| 23:11.33 | kd3 | whee, only a 32k diff this time |
| 23:11.34 | Antiarc | THANK GOD. |
| 23:11.47 | kergoth | nice |
| 23:11.49 | Wobin | Xinhuan: You know "RSVP.com.au"? |
| 23:11.52 | Shirik | good |
| 23:11.56 | Shirik | finished with a 16 point win |
| 23:11.58 | Xinhuan | nope wobin |
| 23:12.01 | Shirik | guess we're up 30 points then |
| 23:12.12 | Wobin | it's an online matchmaking site here |
| 23:12.19 | Xinhuan | how is that useful Antiarc? ;) |
| 23:12.19 | Wobin | touted to be the most... effective |
| 23:12.20 | kd3 | ckknight, ScytheBlade1: sent |
| 23:12.29 | Xinhuan | but i'm not aussie wobin ;p |
| 23:12.40 | Wobin | Oh you might have heard of it, just checking |
| 23:12.57 | Wobin | anyway, and I have insider info on this, their 'matchmaking' system consists of two filters |
| 23:13.09 | Wobin | "gender" "smoking/non smoking" =P |
| 23:13.09 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Currently, if you pickpocket a mob that has already been pickpocketet, nothing happens |
| 23:13.12 | Shirik | !ap 1640 |
| 23:13.12 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1640 is, 2v2: 395, 3v3: 457, 5v5: 519 |
| 23:13.16 | Antiarc | So you don't know if the pickpocket actually went off or what |
| 23:13.24 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 23:13.40 | Xinhuan | hehe wobin, that sounds promising! |
| 23:14.21 | Wobin | It doesn't match -anything- else you enter in, like interests likes/dislikes etc =P |
| 23:14.21 | Tuller | coincidence? |
| 23:14.21 | art3mis | http://www.gamesheep.com/game/smokin-barrels/smokin-barrels.swf |
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| 23:15.01 | Nechckn | Wobin seems like the 2 main things people are "truly" picky about though.... |
| 23:15.05 | kd3 | huzzah, they fixed the staging area. all of the npcs are on a platform with collision |
| 23:15.11 | kd3 | too bad they didn't fix the badge vendor |
| 23:15.39 | ckknight | kd3: did you make the diff yet? |
| 23:15.45 | kd3 | check your email |
| 23:15.50 | ckknight | thx |
| 23:16.12 | Xinhuan | "picky about gender" is a bit of a lol hehe |
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| 23:16.55 | Nechckn | Well Xinhuan I've known a very few who aren't but they are surely the minority. |
| 23:17.12 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.13 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if i can trust a website matchmaking service if it supports matching the same genders together ;p |
| 23:18.30 | Antiarc | BTW |
| 23:18.38 | Antiarc | I'm kicking all your asses for most-characters-in-devNull |
| 23:18.39 | kd3 | huh, they broke the instance line graphic |
| 23:19.10 | Xinhuan | BTW Antiarc, i'm kick 10 million people's asses for most /played on a single character :) |
| 23:19.17 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 23:19.18 | Xinhuan | kicking* |
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| 23:19.41 | ScytheBlade1 | The heck? Did I DC? |
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| 23:20.12 | Xinhuan | at least, i'm fairly confident nobody has more than 505 days /played |
| 23:20.58 | ScytheBlade1 | 18:19 [Freenode] -!- Irssi: No PONG reply from server irc.freenode.net in 302 seconds, disconnecting |
| 23:21.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I see |
| 23:21.40 | break19 | scythe, irc servers like playing table tennis.. if you miss the ball more than a few times, you get disconnected. |
| 23:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:22.21 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.28 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 23:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | still wtb any OSX user's .torrent files.. |
| 23:22.39 | Xinhuan | "Optimized particle system rendering for improved frame rates" |
| 23:22.40 | kd3 | damn it... still haven't fixed the combat log |
| 23:22.44 | Xinhuan | was that in the last ptr patch? |
| 23:22.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 23:22.55 | ScytheBlade1 | It's been in there since day one of 2.4 PTR |
| 23:23.03 | Xinhuan | i must have missed it |
| 23:23.10 | |Jelly| | SHIRIK: PING! |
| 23:23.15 | kd3 | and they're still using kara music on the dead scar bombing run |
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| 23:23.20 | Shirik | |JELLY|: PONG! |
| 23:23.21 | Xinhuan | what about the "free bag space" one? |
| 23:23.29 | kd3 | ya |
| 23:23.48 | kd3 | that's been there since day 1, too.. will run a diff on the shipped patchnotes ina sec. on bombing run atm |
| 23:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo. Patchnotes haven't been updated |
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| 23:24.30 | kd3 | lol. brutallus is as large as I am |
| 23:25.03 | ckknight | thanks, kd3 |
| 23:25.13 | ckknight | nothing all that interesting in the framexml, though |
| 23:25.18 | ckknight | except the 0 height/width |
| 23:27.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:27.50 | ScytheBlade1 | They update the Patch.html for once, but not the notes on the website |
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| 23:34.17 | ScytheBlade1 | rof; |
| 23:34.20 | ScytheBlade1 | *rofl even |
| 23:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | -<li>Ogri'la Peacekeeper's weapons have been scaled properly. |
| 23:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | +<li>Ogri'la Peacekeeper's weapons have been scaled to a size more appropriate for keeping the peace. |
| 23:34.41 | Antiarc | Hahahah |
| 23:34.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That, is classy |
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| 23:36.18 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/patchnotes/7948-7958.diff |
| 23:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Might want to view the source, as your browser will render that |
| 23:36.30 | kd3 | looks like they just changed it to update the website |
| 23:36.35 | kd3 | s/update/match/ |
| 23:36.50 | kd3 | all of that's on the wiki already afaik. |
| 23:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 23:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like |
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| 23:41.52 | ckknight | anyone have the PTR enUS exe for WoW? |
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| 23:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, the raw .exe? |
| 23:42.25 | ckknight | no, the raw exe |
| 23:43.40 | zenzelezz | 8.2 MB isn't bad |
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| 23:44.05 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: you could always download that PTR patch and extract it :D |
| 23:44.49 | MentalPower | ckknight: why do you want the raw exe? |
| 23:44.51 | ckknight | it's not for me |
| 23:45.08 | MentalPower | ok... why would anyone want the raw exe? |
| 23:47.20 | Wobin | ahaa |
| 23:47.24 | Wobin | Problems on Argent Dawn |
| 23:47.28 | Wobin | that require maintenence |
| 23:47.33 | Wobin | Lets hope Blackrock doesn't go down |
| 23:47.39 | Wobin | otherwise there'll be HORRIBLE confusion |
| 23:48.04 | Xinhuan | lol wobin |
| 23:48.08 | Xinhuan | i thought u xferred off ;p |
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| 23:48.39 | Wobin | I did =) |
| 23:48.46 | Wobin | I have no problems =P |
| 23:53.02 | lagger | anyone know how to convert a value like 0x3828 to "0x3828" |
| 23:53.15 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_022208_165102.jpg - Tauren + vanity pets = lolwut |
| 23:53.44 | zenzelezz | Antiarc: not sure I get it; the scale? |
| 23:53.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol nice |
| 23:54.02 | Antiarc | zenzelezz: Yes |
| 23:54.06 | Antiarc | They're like quad scale |
| 23:56.44 | Wobin | lagger: I don't quite follow |
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| 23:57.21 | Wobin | lagger: perhaps string.format("0x%x", value) ? |
| 23:58.47 | |Jelly| | I got reported! YAY! |
| 23:59.05 | |Jelly| | Maybe I'll get another forum facation. lol |
| 23:59.09 | |Jelly| | vacation too |
| 23:59.21 | Crysli | Who reported you and for what? |
| 23:59.23 | ScytheBlade1 | The forums without Jelly would be a sad place |
| 23:59.50 | |Jelly| | Lets just say, I despise "Rate my UI" threads. |
