| 00:00.34 | Cide | kd3: way to not post a link |
| 00:00.43 | kd3 | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4678.0 |
| 00:01.22 | Shirik|AFK | See ScytheBlade1 here's the one problem I have with these signatures |
| 00:01.32 | Cide | kd3: how is that a nerf? |
| 00:01.44 | Shirik|AFK | People keep saying "Oh it's a 2048 bit signature, that means they have to go through 2^2048 different private keys to find the right one" |
| 00:01.47 | oreth| | ScytheBlade1: knikon agrees with you |
| 00:01.57 | Shirik|AFK | But isn't that the wrong approach? Isn't it better to try to match the hash instead? |
| 00:02.15 | WobWork | kd3: how is mana destruction different to drain? |
| 00:02.17 | ScytheBlade1 | oreth|: lol |
| 00:02.22 | WobWork | not affected by resil? |
| 00:02.23 | Shirik|AFK | If it's hashed with sha1 before sigining that means you just have to have a file that matches that hash to be able to produce the same signature |
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| 00:03.01 | Shirik|AFK | wait |
| 00:03.05 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it's better to match the signature |
| 00:03.07 | Shirik|AFK | so mana burn isn't being affected by resil? |
| 00:03.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Hashes are fixed length, signatures are not |
| 00:03.22 | Shirik|AFK | they aren't? |
| 00:03.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 00:03.48 | Shirik|AFK | and doesn't that continue to further my point? |
| 00:03.54 | Shirik|AFK | That it's easier to match the hash than it is the signature? |
| 00:04.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Easier? Yes |
| 00:04.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Better? no |
| 00:05.04 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're just hashing the file, nuke your private key and share md5/sha1 sums |
| 00:06.13 | Shirik|AFK | er |
| 00:06.18 | Shirik|AFK | I think you're missing what I'm saying |
| 00:06.37 | Shirik|AFK | for a cracker, who wants to have some executable put in and have it verified as trusted |
| 00:06.39 | oreth| | you are all abunch of nerds |
| 00:06.47 | Shirik|AFK | wouldn't he have an easier time matching the hash than he would matching the signature? |
| 00:06.50 | ScytheBlade1 | oreth|: and yet, here you sit |
| 00:06.53 | art3mis | is there a wowwiki theorycraft on kiting damage? |
| 00:07.07 | oreth| | scythe: I have never denied my nerditude |
| 00:07.10 | oreth| | or my geekality |
| 00:07.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|AFK: oh, of course. But I thought the point of all of that was to allow your application to verify updates on it's own? |
| 00:07.38 | Shirik|AFK | My point was to verify the security :) |
| 00:07.46 | Shirik|AFK | And imho it's only as insecure as sha1 is |
| 00:08.03 | Shirik|AFK | or sha512 if I choose to go with that |
| 00:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ack, afk |
| 00:08.57 | WobWork | anyone got any hints for a boomkin? |
| 00:09.02 | WobWork | I'm just starting out one |
| 00:09.04 | Antiarc | WobWork: Respec |
| 00:09.09 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.20 | Shirik|AFK | hm? |
| 00:09.21 | WobWork | Antiarc: Nah =) |
| 00:09.26 | Shirik|AFK | oh |
| 00:09.29 | WobWork | I enjoy offspeccing every now and again |
| 00:09.30 | Shirik|AFK | yeah oh well |
| 00:09.34 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:09.51 | Shirik|AFK | imnsho |
| 00:09.51 | oreth| | wait |
| 00:10.09 | oreth| | druide? |
| 00:10.09 | art3mis | imsho? |
| 00:10.09 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:10.14 | oreth| | i've got a couple of choice words for any druid. |
| 00:10.20 | art3mis | fosho |
| 00:10.30 | WobWork | CAT IS FOR FITE? |
| 00:10.33 | Shirik|AFK | in my not so humble opinion |
| 00:10.41 | Shirik|AFK | anyway, I need to go buy a new frying pan |
| 00:10.43 | Shirik|AFK | because mine exploded last night |
| 00:10.46 | Shirik|AFK | bbl |
| 00:10.48 | WobWork | ... |
| 00:11.01 | oreth| | i hate druids. |
| 00:11.05 | oreth| | all encompassingly. |
| 00:11.06 | WobWork | Now you're cooking with gas? |
| 00:11.12 | Shirik|AFK | I'm not sure what I did |
| 00:11.15 | WobWork | oreth|: Why do you think I'm rolling one? |
| 00:11.16 | art3mis | el;ectric? |
| 00:11.17 | Shirik|AFK | I think it was the sudden heat change |
| 00:11.24 | Shirik|AFK | I took it from the stove to cold water |
| 00:11.27 | Shirik|AFK | and it wasn't happy |
| 00:11.29 | art3mis | umm |
| 00:11.34 | kd3 | thermal shocks are fun |
| 00:11.38 | WobWork | That.. would probably do it =P |
| 00:11.43 | oreth| | WobWork: because you want people to despise you and hate the very fact that you exist? |
| 00:11.53 | WobWork | oreth|: yes. and then /dance |
| 00:11.58 | oreth| | hahaha |
| 00:11.59 | art3mis | you need to spend more than 1.50 at the salvation army/chinese discount store if your pan assplodes for a heat change ;P |
| 00:12.02 | oreth| | well played :P |
| 00:12.53 | WobWork | oreth|: Nah, really, I've never managed to level a druid above level 20. And I figured if I tried Balance, it'd be different enough (ish) that I might manage further |
| 00:13.11 | WobWork | I was never a very good beartank due to lack of understanding |
| 00:13.20 | WobWork | and found catform to be an inferior rogue |
| 00:13.25 | art3mis | and having only 2 fingers on each hand |
| 00:13.28 | oreth| | roll warlock |
| 00:13.30 | oreth| | win at life |
| 00:13.33 | WobWork | due to lack of stun |
| 00:13.39 | WobWork | (early on at least, I think) |
| 00:14.05 | WobWork | I'll probably do warlock next |
| 00:14.14 | WobWork | although early on warlock is painful |
| 00:14.17 | art3mis | locks suck |
| 00:14.24 | WobWork | it's only once you get to the point when you can draintank is it any fun |
| 00:14.38 | art3mis | mmmm |
| 00:14.42 | art3mis | 2 boxes of peeps |
| 00:14.42 | oreth| | You have died. [Release Spirit] [Whine about Warlocks] |
| 00:14.58 | art3mis | locks are only good for 1 thing |
| 00:15.00 | art3mis | CoS |
| 00:15.08 | oreth| | au contraire |
| 00:15.13 | art3mis | *says the shadow priest* |
| 00:15.14 | oreth| | locks are good for pwning your face |
| 00:15.27 | art3mis | ive never lost a duel to a lock |
| 00:15.29 | oreth| | at least, that's what i use MINE for |
| 00:15.29 | art3mis | ever |
| 00:15.43 | art3mis | they die almost as fast as hunters |
| 00:15.48 | oreth| | shadow priests and BM Hunters are pretty rough on me |
| 00:16.01 | WobWork | BRK button |
| 00:16.07 | WobWork | OM NOMNOMNOM |
| 00:16.12 | art3mis | shadow prot +silence+fear == dead lock |
| 00:16.13 | oreth| | Knikon Level 70 Gnome Warlock | Member of: Nothing Ventured | Spec: 7/43/11 (http://tinyurl.com/2jmhv2) |
| 00:16.13 | AnduinLothar | PTR down, confirm? |
| 00:16.21 | kd3 | still down |
| 00:16.25 | oreth| | eep |
| 00:16.27 | art3mis | after you've dotted the shit out of his pet ;P |
| 00:16.32 | oreth| | sorry, meant to paste the tinyurl |
| 00:16.39 | art3mis | and tis healing you and dying |
| 00:16.54 | AnduinLothar | how am i sposed to raid with this guild i'm apping to if the ptr is down QQ |
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| 00:17.29 | oreth| | the first thing I do against a shadow priest is shadow protection |
| 00:17.37 | oreth| | then I send in my pet to interrupt the spell |
| 00:17.44 | oreth| | then, instead of shadow damage |
| 00:17.47 | oreth| | i pump out the fire damage |
| 00:18.12 | oreth| | deathcoil for expansion |
| 00:18.45 | oreth| | that way he can Psychic Scream, but only get my pet |
| 00:18.58 | art3mis | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Echo+Isles&n=Rozalyn |
| 00:19.02 | art3mis | ^^ me |
| 00:19.28 | oreth| | very nice |
| 00:19.32 | WobWork | hunters are harder to deadzone now |
| 00:19.36 | art3mis | thats all without raiding at all ;P |
| 00:19.38 | oreth| | wob: yeah :| |
| 00:19.46 | art3mis | WobWork: but fear stll works great ;P |
| 00:19.50 | oreth| | i've only raided once since xpcak |
| 00:19.52 | WobWork | art3mis: BRK |
| 00:19.57 | WobWork | + TBW |
| 00:20.06 | WobWork | sure, it's only for a short while |
| 00:20.09 | oreth| | the rest is all pvp gear |
| 00:20.10 | art3mis | pain+devouring ;P |
| 00:20.16 | WobWork | but with the dps output against clothies =\ |
| 00:20.16 | art3mis | im not undead for no reason ;P |
| 00:20.23 | oreth| | i dunno |
| 00:20.30 | oreth| | the game has just stopped being fun for me anymore |
| 00:20.32 | art3mis | shield mb sw:d |
| 00:20.34 | art3mis | sw:d |
| 00:20.46 | art3mis | *teabag hunter |
| 00:20.52 | WobWork | aimedshot/arcaneshot |
| 00:21.18 | art3mis | i love that you can dual sw:d with a pw:s |
| 00:21.39 | WobWork | I mean, honestly =P A mortal strike plus a dispel? what were they thinking? =P |
| 00:22.09 | WobWork | Although, hunters accidentally griefing the magetank in HKM has to be the funniest thing ever |
| 00:22.24 | art3mis | Hello Kitty Module ? |
| 00:22.30 | WobWork | High King Maulgar |
| 00:22.48 | WobWork | although, I don't blame you for that misconception |
| 00:23.05 | kd3 | "accidentally"? our healers nearly killed the hunters when they arc-shotted the shield off before I could steal it |
| 00:23.42 | art3mis | i still firmly believe that pw:s should block arrows |
| 00:23.55 | art3mis | whether its a dot or not |
| 00:23.59 | WobWork | Arc shot has been ingrained into some of our shot rotations for so long, it's hard to avoid it =) |
| 00:24.01 | art3mis | its delivered by an arrow |
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| 00:27.40 | oreth| | i dunno what's going on anymore |
| 00:27.41 | oreth| | so... |
| 00:27.44 | oreth| | here's a picture of my cats |
| 00:27.44 | oreth| | http://menlar.chasesdream.com/photo/source/CatNap.jpg |
| 00:29.55 | WobWork | They don't have pancakes on their heads! |
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| 00:31.52 | oreth| | http://www.echelonx.com/oreth/kitties/alapancake.jpg |
| 00:32.20 | Kaso | How evil, changing apache's doctype using htaccess! |
| 00:32.50 | oreth| | actually, it's a 404 page with rick astley embedded into it :P |
| 00:33.00 | Kaso | oh, thats not nearly as clever |
| 00:33.04 | oreth| | yeah |
| 00:33.06 | Adys | lol |
| 00:33.08 | oreth| | it's not my website :P |
| 00:34.57 | AnduinLothar | =D I got my gf hooked on DS9 |
| 00:35.10 | art3mis | you need to burn in hell for that |
| 00:35.16 | AnduinLothar | muah ha ha! |
| 00:35.27 | AnduinLothar | it's quite an acomplishment |
| 00:35.52 | Antiarc | I got my wife hooked on SG-1 |
| 00:36.10 | oreth| | why wife loves SG-1 |
| 00:36.14 | oreth| | hates anything star trek |
| 00:36.36 | WobWork | well SG-1 is more down to earth than ST |
| 00:36.38 | oreth| | she also loves Charmed |
| 00:36.39 | AnduinLothar | nice, i watched all SG-1 int he past few years and started on DS9 this year cause my roomies had them all |
| 00:36.48 | oreth| | DS-9 is fairly blah |
| 00:37.01 | oreth| | however TNG and Voyager were digital awesome |
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| 00:37.26 | AnduinLothar | I didn't like it as much as the others, but now that I'm watching them back to back I can't really stop |
| 00:37.36 | oreth| | i miss X-Files :| |
| 00:39.27 | oreth| | alright |
| 00:39.28 | oreth| | i'm out |
| 00:39.29 | oreth| | later guys |
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| 00:40.15 | batrick | --> local a = 5 f = function() a = a + 1 return a end return f() |
| 00:40.16 | batbot | batrick: > 6 |
| 00:40.22 | batrick | --> while true do end |
| 00:40.27 | batbot | batrick: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 00:40.29 | batrick | --> f() |
| 00:40.29 | batbot | batrick: > 7 |
| 00:40.31 | batrick | \o/ |
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| 00:48.46 | art3mis | http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f133/Xxypher/DibN00bs.png <-- shirik |
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| 01:09.58 | Fin | norgs: what does the "wealth" column represent in Beancounter's list of Auctions? is it how much you've made off that particular buyer? |
| 01:12.09 | Fin | or, the current player wealth at the time that auction happened? |
| 01:14.46 | Shirik|AFK | batrick? |
| 01:14.49 | Shirik|AFK | what wast hat all about |
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| 01:16.57 | Shirik | Heh I like Wikipedia's page on SHA hashing algorithms |
| 01:17.08 | Shirik | Under the "collision" column it says "SHA-1: 2^63 complexity" |
| 01:17.15 | Shirik | "SHA-0: Yes" |
| 01:17.18 | Shirik | ol |
| 01:17.19 | Shirik | lol |
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| 01:23.35 | batrick | Shirik: what? |
| 01:23.42 | batrick | I made a serialization scheme |
| 01:23.53 | batrick | it's really efficient/fast and very small :) |
| 01:24.23 | batrick | handles closures with upvalues too and cyclic tables |
| 01:24.25 | AnduinLothar | serialization for SV or chat? |
| 01:24.35 | batrick | for Lua global states |
| 01:24.45 | AnduinLothar | for what purpose tho |
| 01:25.05 | batrick | so if batbot has to kill the thread running X person's code it can reload the previous state |
| 01:25.29 | AnduinLothar | ah. So neither |
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| 01:34.50 | Shirik | batrick: Now what you need to do is provide a way for it to automatically start up |
| 01:34.53 | Shirik | after someone kills it |
| 01:36.07 | [dRaCo] | have a cronjob check every 5 minutes or so |
| 01:36.15 | [dRaCo] | done that with an eggdrop |
| 01:37.57 | Shirik | that's the lazy way of doing it |
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| 01:38.30 | [dRaCo] | yeah, but it works fine |
| 01:38.40 | Shirik | just because it works doesn't mean it's good :P |
| 01:38.42 | Shirik | Look at Windows ME |
| 01:39.16 | [dRaCo] | good point, but somewhat offtopic |
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| 01:40.05 | batrick | Shirik: I don't see a areason to have ascript monitor batbot as no one has crashed him in a long time |
| 01:40.17 | Shirik | That's only because you cheated |
| 01:40.22 | batrick | ..? |
| 01:40.44 | Shirik | --> function foo() return pcall(foo) end foo() |
| 01:40.50 | Shirik | er |
| 01:40.56 | Shirik | wha? |
| 01:41.00 | Shirik | I WIN! |
| 01:41.14 | Shirik | --> function foo() local s,e = pcall(foo) return s,e end foo() |
| 01:42.04 | batrick | --> function foo() local s,e = pcall(foo) return s,e end return foo() |
| 01:42.04 | batbot | batrick: > true, true |
| 01:43.37 | Shirik | victory? |
| 01:43.37 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 01:43.37 | Shirik | --> function foo() local s,e = pcall(foo) return s,e end return foo() |
| 01:43.37 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:43.37 | Shirik | I declare victory. |
| 01:43.37 | batbot | Shirik: > true, true |
| 01:43.43 | Shirik | ?? |
| 01:43.51 | Shirik | what did you do differently |
| 01:43.57 | Shirik | and why did it answer me after you |
| 01:44.20 | batrick | because you didn't return the results of foo... |
| 01:45.15 | batrick | anyway, time for sleep |
| 01:45.15 | batrick | gnight |
| 01:47.19 | Shirik | uh batrick? |
| 01:47.24 | Shirik | (20:42:53) (@Shirik) --> function foo() local s,e = pcall(foo) return s,e end return foo() |
| 01:48.55 | batrick | 18:43:37 <@Shirik> --> function foo() local s,e = pcall(foo) return s,e end return foo() |
| 01:48.58 | batrick | 18:43:37 <@Shirik> yes |
| 01:49.00 | batrick | 18:43:37 < batbot> Shirik: > true, true |
| 01:49.03 | batrick | ????? |
| 01:49.05 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:49.06 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:49.15 | Shirik | (20:42:53) (@Shirik) --> function foo() local s,e = pcall(foo) return s,e end return foo() |
| 01:49.16 | Shirik | (20:42:58) (@Shirik) yes |
| 01:49.17 | Shirik | (20:43:00) (@Shirik) I declare victory. |
| 01:49.18 | Shirik | (20:43:14) (batrick) --> function foo() local s,e = pcall(foo) return s,e end return foo() |
| 01:49.19 | Shirik | (20:43:14) (batbot) batrick: > true, true |
| 01:49.20 | Shirik | (20:43:15) * batrick smacks shirik upside the head |
| 01:49.21 | Shirik | (20:43:18) (batbot) Shirik: > true, true |
| 01:49.41 | batrick | apparently you should go to sleep too |
| 01:49.52 | Shirik | no sleep tonight |
| 01:50.01 | Shirik | I have some code due at 1 PM tomorrow |
| 01:50.06 | batrick | mad QQ |
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| 02:06.38 | Shirik | --> math.ldexp(2, 4) |
| 02:06.38 | batbot | Shirik: > 32 |
| 02:06.49 | Shirik | that is an odd function |
| 02:08.12 | ScytheBlade1 | So, I subscribed to misc@openbsd.org |
| 02:08.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I used to read php-internals just to enjoy the flamewars |
| 02:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | But I now have a new source of entertainment |
| 02:08.44 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:09.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not even remotely kidding either |
| 02:09.04 | ScytheBlade1 | This list is awesome |
| 02:09.30 | kd3 | it's BSD... when are flamewars ever not involved? |
| 02:09.43 | Sixen | Heya kd3 |
| 02:09.47 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just good stuff all around |
| 02:09.49 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 02:10.30 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/82940 <-- random example |
| 02:10.32 | Shirik | So I really want to know why this kills my SSHD every time I run it |
| 02:10.52 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/82941 |
| 02:10.55 | Shirik | (Note: line 3 is shellcode) |
| 02:10.57 | Shirik | any ideas? |
| 02:11.23 | ScytheBlade1 | How about giving me ASCII for the shellcode? |
| 02:11.26 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 02:11.50 | Shirik | lol, nice ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:11.52 | Shirik | giving you ASCII for the shellcode? |
| 02:12.06 | Shirik | figure it out :P |
| 02:12.11 | Shirik | the code is there |
| 02:12.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm also lazy |
| 02:12.56 | ScytheBlade1 | And also, is this killing your SSH *daemon* or just your session? |
| 02:15.15 | Shirik | Hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:15.15 | Shirik | want to be awesome? |
| 02:15.19 | Shirik | no the daemon |
| 02:15.24 | Shirik | I can't log in until I restart the serve |
| 02:15.29 | Shirik | strange thing is it's still running |
| 02:15.33 | Shirik | it just doesn't do anything |
| 02:16.48 | Shirik | I should see if lish has anything to say about it |
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| 02:19.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? @ being awesome |
| 02:19.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Who said I wasn't? |
| 02:19.39 | Shirik | upi |
| 02:19.45 | Shirik | you're not awesome until you do something for me |
| 02:19.53 | Shirik | see if my server bans you for trying to get into ssh :P |
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| 02:33.42 | fromatz | anyone know why GetBattlefieldStatInfo doesn't include any of the EotS specific columns? |
| 02:37.32 | mikma | it sucks? |
| 02:39.14 | fromatz | probably |
| 02:39.27 | fromatz | just weird, because unless im mistaken eots has bg specific columns |
| 02:39.44 | fromatz | unless someone never updated the wiki |
| 02:40.18 | kd3 | shouldn't be... flag caps and returns are all that are there, iirc. |
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| 02:46.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: poke back, IP? |
| 02:46.35 | Shirik | li23-154.members.linode.com |
| 02:47.16 | |pez| | mmm, linode |
| 02:47.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Either it just banned me, or my connection is weird |
| 02:47.42 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Either way enjoy your auth logs :) |
| 02:48.11 | Shirik | 2008-02-25 21:47:09,811 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh-iptables] Ban *.*.*.* |
| 02:48.12 | Shirik | yey |
| 02:48.33 | kd3 | whoops |
| 02:48.44 | Shirik | no, I took out his ip :P |
| 02:48.47 | Shirik | It didn't ban everything |
| 02:48.57 | fromatz | kd3, so you think i could use GetBattlefieldStatInfo and get the eots specific columns? |
| 02:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | See the username? :D |
| 02:49.07 | Shirik | didn't look, that was from fail2ban |
| 02:49.09 | Shirik | let me go see |
| 02:49.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo |
| 02:49.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That takes all the fun out of it |
| 02:49.24 | |pez| | I hope I managed to setup fail2ban right really... |
| 02:49.27 | Shirik | how do you go to the last line of a file in vim? |
| 02:49.47 | kd3 | just go `tail <file>` from a shell? |
| 02:49.51 | Shirik | Feb 25 21:47:09 localhost sshd[16745]: Invalid user shirik_is_for_epic_fail from |
| 02:49.53 | Shirik | :< |
| 02:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm so harassing you randomly in your logs from here on out |
| 02:50.22 | Shirik | that's not vim kd3 >< |
| 02:50.25 | Shirik | what if I wanted to modify it? |
| 02:50.41 | |pez| | ninight folks. |
| 02:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: besides, I've got 11 different IPs I can utilize. ;) |
| 02:51.57 | fromatz | can i use ..= in lua |
| 02:51.59 | Shirik | and an infinite number of usernames and passwords to try :) |
| 02:52.00 | Shirik | grats |
| 02:52.05 | Shirik | s/grats/good luck/ |
| 02:52.09 | Shirik | fromatz: No |
| 02:52.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Except that you've pasted me your username before |
| 02:52.11 | ScytheBlade1 | sooooooooooooooo |
| 02:52.12 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 02:52.14 | fromatz | suchas x = x .. "\n" |
| 02:52.16 | Shirik | so an infinite number of passwords |
| 02:52.20 | fromatz | hmmm, that sucks |
| 02:52.43 | fromatz | does x = x .. "\n" work though? |
| 02:52.47 | Shirik | yes |
| 02:52.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 02:52.51 | fromatz | ok, thanks |
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| 03:03.11 | fromatz | i need an opinion on bg uniqueness |
| 03:03.54 | fromatz | how well do you think (game duration in ms) + (system time in ms) would be as a unique integer |
| 03:04.14 | fromatz | the odds of two games every being the same, would be ridiculous i would think |
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| 03:31.52 | kd3 | boo |
| 03:31.56 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4913902221&sid=1 |
| 03:35.44 | Syzgyn | booo |
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| 03:46.49 | Shirik | hmmmmm |
| 03:46.53 | Shirik | just went into arena with pve gear on |
| 03:46.54 | Shirik | not fun |
| 03:50.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Epic win |
| 03:50.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Burning down Lurker after killing Kael |
| 03:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | And my keyboard shorts out |
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| 03:53.30 | Corrodias | nice |
| 03:53.34 | Corrodias | but riddle me this |
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| 03:53.47 | Corrodias | is there any way to make firefox just OPEN a text file instead of pretending to download it from my hard drive? |
| 03:54.35 | Shirik | !ap 1620 |
| 03:54.35 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1620 is, 2v2: 374, 3v3: 433, 5v5: 492 |
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| 04:01.02 | Guillotin1 | Fox is so shameless |
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| 04:19.40 | Shirik | Guillotine: What did they do this time? |
| 04:19.55 | Guillotine | Moment of Truth |
| 04:20.01 | Guillotine | and the new episode on tonight |
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| 04:22.37 | Shirik | lua> (111-56)/6860 |
| 04:22.37 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.0080174927113703 |
| 04:23.48 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, did you ever figure out where that error was coming from the other day? |
| 04:24.08 | Tem|AFK | SomeType<AnotherType> blah = new SomeType<AnotherType>() |
| 04:24.14 | Tem|AFK | incompatible types SomeType<AnotherType> and SomeType<AnotherType> |
| 04:24.23 | Shirik | oh haha |
| 04:24.28 | Shirik | "AnotherType" was undefined |
| 04:24.34 | Tem|AFK | lol |
| 04:24.50 | Shirik | it was actually supposed to be "Class.AnotherType" |
| 04:25.03 | Shirik | but the error message for that was screwed >< |
| 04:25.56 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, I just tried something similar, and I get a proper error message |
| 04:26.09 | Shirik | what IDE/Compiler? |
| 04:26.16 | Tem|AFK | "AnotherType" cannot be resolved to a type |
| 04:26.18 | Tem|AFK | Eclipse |
| 04:26.31 | Shirik | NetBeans must be parsing the errors incorrectly |
| 04:26.54 | Tem|AFK | hah |
| 04:26.56 | Tem|AFK | strike one |
| 04:27.34 | Shirik | meh |
| 04:27.38 | Shirik | Netbeans is still god in other ways |
| 04:28.31 | Tem|AFK | I keep hearing that from various people |
| 04:28.40 | Iriel | In what ways? |
| 04:28.40 | Tem|AFK | but what does it have over Eclipse? |
| 04:28.54 | Iriel | I'm a loather of eclipse, but I still find eclipse too useful to not use |
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| 04:29.49 | Cairenn|afk | hi Benumbed |
| 04:29.54 | Benumbed | hi |
| 04:30.03 | Benumbed | can only talk in between pulls aka wipes on illidan |
| 04:30.06 | Keias | You're all lying AFKers! |
| 04:30.24 | Keias | It's a conspiracy |
| 04:30.27 | Shirik|AFK | Obviously AFK is the cool way to go |
| 04:30.36 | Keias | I'm not cool enough to AFK :( |
| 04:30.41 | Cairenn | sorry, forgot to change my nick back |
| 04:31.28 | Tem|AFK | I set myself afk when I'm *supposed* to be afk |
| 04:31.37 | Tem|AFK | but I rarely do what I'm supposed to |
| 04:31.45 | Keias | I've been violated |
| 04:31.47 | Keias | BRB calling police |
| 04:33.28 | Tem|AFK | Iriel, how can you loathe Eclipse? |
| 04:33.35 | Tem|AFK | it's so rounded |
| 04:33.46 | Tem|AFK | (lawl pun intended) |
| 04:33.51 | Iriel | It's ugly, and has possibly the worst auto-update system of any piece of software that claims to have one |
| 04:34.31 | AnduinLothar | oh god i LOTHE eclipse |
| 04:34.42 | Iriel | It's not /quite/ reliable enough to trust |
| 04:34.43 | AnduinLothar | if there was a word stonger than lothe i would use it |
| 04:34.53 | Iriel | But it's got amazing refactoring tools |
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| 04:36.20 | Shirik | Tem|AFK: I can't stand Eclipse either |
| 04:36.24 | Shirik | unfortunately QNX forces me to use it |
| 04:36.43 | Tem|AFK | ... I like it's ui |
| 04:36.49 | Tem|AFK | s/'// |
| 04:36.51 | Shirik | I hate that too |
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| 04:36.59 | Shirik | Netbeans' UI is similar and actually usable too :P |
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| 04:37.25 | Corrodias | i can work with eclipse's |
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| 04:37.32 | Keias | Staples sounds painful |
| 04:37.46 | Corrodias | but i must say, i was impressed by netbeans. i don't know if it supports as many features as eclipse, but i never used them if it doesn't |
| 04:38.13 | Shirik | I switched to Netbeans at their version 4 |
| 04:38.21 | Shirik | and I've been amazed ever since |
| 04:39.16 | MentalPower | Cairenn: thanks, stupid power company... |
| 04:39.20 | MentalPower | Keias: would you prefer nails? |
| 04:39.39 | Keias | Railroad spikes |
| 04:39.40 | Cairenn | I have nails! |
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| 04:40.11 | Keias | rofl |
| 04:40.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=8A1CF583E99D70AB502702E318F2097B?topicId=4913902354&sid=1 |
| 04:40.16 | Keias | poor wob |
| 04:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That character name + guild makes me laugh |
| 04:40.30 | ScytheBlade1 | and WTF @ K-lined |
| 04:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | What'd he do? |
| 04:40.51 | Keias | Not sure |
| 04:41.04 | Keias | Limit on connections from a single IP or something? |
| 04:41.20 | Keias | Not too familiar with FreeNodes rules on that type of thing tbh |
| 04:41.26 | Lukian | too many people IRC'ing from his workplace? :D |
| 04:41.31 | Shirik | How did Wob get k-lined? |
| 04:41.32 | Shirik | o.o |
| 04:41.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I kinda doubt it |
| 04:41.59 | Keias | Thats all I can really imagine since it happened right as he connected |
| 04:42.11 | Shirik | yeah |
| 04:42.16 | Shirik | That makes sense to me |
| 04:42.22 | Shirik | freenode specifies a max of 5 connections from an IP |
| 04:42.44 | Keias | probably just a temp kline |
| 04:42.56 | Keias | hour or two probably |
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| 04:44.01 | MentalPower | wow, poor wob |
| 04:47.13 | Cairenn | poor wob? |
| 04:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | 23:40 -!- WobWork [n=WobWork@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #wowi-lounge |
| 04:47.22 | Cairenn | who got klined? what, huh? |
| 04:47.24 | ScytheBlade1 | 23:40 -!- WobWork [n=WobWork@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [K-lined] |
| 04:47.27 | Cairenn | ! |
| 04:47.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That's all we know too, lol |
| 04:48.29 | sacarasc | being klined isn't the end of the world... i've scored 2 of them on this net so far... one for joining #wikipedia at the wrong time |
| 04:48.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And the other? :D |
| 04:48.58 | sacarasc | my ident was 1000 |
| 04:49.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:49.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been klined for spamming before, wee |
| 04:49.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | not on here, of course |
| 04:49.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Worse I've been is +q'd in #gaim (back when it was gaim) |
| 04:49.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Which... really didn't matter, heh |
| 04:50.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and by using the dcc send mirc/routercrash exploit on another network, instantaneous kline |
| 04:50.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:50.24 | ScytheBlade1 | STARTKEYLOGGER go! |
| 04:50.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | not that one |
| 04:51.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | the dcc send + any amount of characters above 8 |
| 04:51.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 04:51.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't want to do it in here for fear of instabanhammer |
| 04:51.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I kinda wondered if that would happen with my STARTKEYLOGGER |
| 04:51.58 | ScytheBlade1 | But apparently not |
| 04:52.02 | ScytheBlade1 | (STARTKEYLOGGER) |
| 04:52.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | well worth a try i guess |
| 04:52.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone pester synirc admins if i get klined please :( |
| 04:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:52.41 | ScytheBlade1 | You do that |
| 04:52.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | DCC SEND ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP |
| 04:52.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh gosh |
| 04:52.55 | Shirik | o.o |
| 04:52.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 04:52.57 | Shirik | rofl |
| 04:53.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ROFL |
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| 04:53.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry Dagron and testleK :( |
| 04:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like some people need to update their router firmware! |
| 04:53.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | and possibly arcacia |
| 04:53.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
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| 04:53.45 | Shirik | Wait so.... that's an actual exploit? |
| 04:53.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | arcaia rather |
| 04:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yes |
| 04:53.50 | Shirik | DCC SEND OAIJWEFOIWAWEF |
| 04:53.52 | Shirik | oh wow. |
| 04:53.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it just crashes some routers |
| 04:53.54 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
| 04:53.57 | Shirik | that's stupid. |
| 04:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | older routers see it |
| 04:54.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | and go |
| 04:54.03 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, lol |
| 04:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: quick, ban yourself! |
| 04:54.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | OH GOD VIRSU |
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| 04:54.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and cut off internet |
| 04:54.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something |
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| 04:54.30 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-o+b Shirik *!*=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik |
| 04:54.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause waaaaay back in the day |
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| 04:54.49 | Shirik | hrm |
| 04:54.52 | Shirik | that's wierd |
| 04:54.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | you could exploit mirc or become like a zombie or sommat |
| 04:54.59 | Antiarc | Is it just that string, or that string via IRC, or what? |
| 04:55.06 | Shirik | my client -o's when I do a ban |
| 04:55.12 | Shirik | so I can't kick myself lol |
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| 04:56.21 | ScytheBlade1 | That is... just plain entertaining |
| 04:56.57 | Tem|AFK | quick, someone do it in wowace |
| 04:57.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:57.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do destructive things when i get bore |
| 04:57.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | d |
| 04:58.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | like hop on other irc servers and use tor to proxyhop and continuously use that :/ |
| 04:58.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i'm mostly past those days though |
| 04:58.26 | Shirik | go into #freenode and do it |
| 04:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a guaranteed ban |
| 04:59.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i wouldn't do it here |
| 04:59.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is a small irc server where i know the ircop |
| 04:59.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol gg |
| 04:59.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | and know his boundaries before he gets really pissed :P |
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| 05:02.08 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/82953 |
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| 05:02.20 | fromatz | anyone know why that wont print anything to my BGPlayerInfo table? |
| 05:03.25 | fromatz | it should make it into the if's i tested the value of bg and it was Warsong Gulch |
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| 05:07.56 | Shirik | Great. Now whenever I look at my logs, I have Feb 25 21:47:07 localhost sshd[16740]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for invalid user shirik_is_for_epic_fail from [IP] port 41569 ssh2 |
| 05:08.02 | Shirik | In bright red background with white text |
| 05:08.58 | fromatz | could be worse |
| 05:11.22 | Shirik | how could it be worse? |
| 05:13.48 | fromatz | yellow on white |
| 05:14.39 | fromatz | or you could fail at making addons like me |
| 05:15.50 | Cidan | fromatz: What's the matter? |
| 05:15.55 | Cidan | fromatz: I shall help, :D |
| 05:16.33 | fromatz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.44 | fromatz | im not sure why BGPlayerInfo = { } |
| 05:17.07 | fromatz | when i tested it in WSG it met the condition bg == "Warsong Gulch" |
| 05:17.48 | Cidan | So bg == Warsong Gulch turned up true? |
| 05:17.50 | Cidan | right? |
| 05:18.31 | Shirik | HI CIDAN |
| 05:18.45 | Cidan | HI SHIRIK |
| 05:18.47 | Cidan | I LOVE YOU |
| 05:18.52 | Cidan | LES GET MARRIED K? |
| 05:18.55 | Cidan | K |
| 05:19.09 | fromatz | yeah inside that for loop i did BGPlayerInfo = bg, and it printed BGPlayerInfo = Warsong Gulch |
| 05:19.22 | Cidan | okay |
| 05:19.46 | fromatz | i will show you the whole version of my addon, maybe that will help |
| 05:19.50 | Cidan | but when you insert in, it says BGPlayerInfo is empty? |
| 05:20.24 | fromatz | yeah |
| 05:20.45 | fromatz | here is the complete addon |
| 05:20.45 | Cidan | How are you testing this? |
| 05:20.46 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/82954 |
| 05:20.47 | Cidan | table.getn? |
| 05:21.04 | fromatz | no, i go into a bg, open up the scoreboard and do /played |
| 05:21.20 | fromatz | it triggers the event TIME_PLAYED_MSG |
| 05:21.27 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.28 | Cidan | 4 BGPlayerInfo = BGPlayerInfo or {} |
| 05:21.42 | Cidan | hm |
| 05:22.01 | Cidan | will that work since it's defined in the function? |
| 05:22.07 | Cidan | Never done that before |
| 05:22.18 | Cidan | suggest you move those two lines outside the function |
| 05:22.45 | fromatz | if i just do BGInfo = {} and the same for the other each bg im in overrides the previous in my savevariables file |
| 05:23.51 | Cidan | I'm just sayin; I don't quite recall what happens when you define something without local in a function when it's not defined somewhere else; does it make it global? I imagine yes, but eh. |
| 05:24.01 | Cidan | I don't define globals in functions |
| 05:24.06 | Cidan | that == bad, imo. |
| 05:24.45 | fromatz | should i put local infront of those other variables then too, since they are local to just that one for loop |
| 05:25.01 | Cidan | no, because then they will reset every time the function is called |
| 05:25.09 | Cidan | just move those two lines outside the function |
| 05:25.43 | Cidan | but then you need to make sure you clear the tables at some point, or they will fill up quickly |
| 05:25.48 | fromatz | well BGInfo and BGPlayerInfo are my saved variables |
| 05:25.57 | Cidan | Oh okay |
| 05:26.08 | Cidan | Well then there is really no need to do that every time the event is called |
| 05:26.13 | Cidan | that's just a waste |
| 05:26.21 | fromatz | yeah i want the tables to log every game i play and every person and stat associated with the game |
| 05:26.48 | Cidan | well you're going to log everyone multiple times |
| 05:26.56 | Cidan | many many times |
| 05:27.05 | fromatz | how is that? |
| 05:27.14 | Cidan | every time that for loop is called, it creates a NEW entry for every score, it WILL NOT replace the old one |
| 05:27.34 | Cidan | because you're using table.insert over and over |
| 05:27.42 | Cidan | you're just filling the table up over and over |
| 05:28.05 | fromatz | its only inserting 1 players data into the table at a time until it reaches the max number of players in the game |
| 05:28.26 | Cidan | well you're going to be inserting the same player, MULTIPLE times into the table |
| 05:28.35 | Cidan | ie: Cidan 800000 times in the table |
| 05:29.02 | fromatz | i dont see how, cause in my tests its just printed out every player in the bg |
| 05:29.09 | fromatz | i changed it now it wont print anything |
| 05:29.23 | Cidan | *sigh* see table.insert? |
| 05:29.29 | Cidan | Do you understand how that works? |
| 05:29.41 | Cidan | table.insert will simply insert new data into the table |
| 05:29.45 | Cidan | it doesn't overwrite data |
| 05:29.45 | fromatz | yes |
| 05:29.51 | Cidan | it doesn't delete data |
| 05:29.55 | Cidan | it doesn't remove data |
| 05:30.00 | Cidan | it only does one function |
| 05:30.02 | Cidan | insert data |
| 05:30.05 | Cidan | that's it |
| 05:30.30 | Cidan | and if the data is the same as some other data in the table, it will insert it again |
| 05:30.42 | Cidan | just with a new index |
| 05:31.17 | fromatz | yes i understand that all but when i call GetBattlefieldScore(i); it should get another player |
| 05:31.53 | Cidan | You will, but when is this event called? |
| 05:32.04 | Cidan | Forgive me, but what is TIME_PLAYED_MSG |
| 05:32.08 | Cidan | is that the end of the BG? |
| 05:32.10 | Cidan | the popup? |
| 05:32.19 | fromatz | no, it is trigger when i do /played |
| 05:32.26 | fromatz | so i got into a bg |
| 05:32.32 | fromatz | show the scoreboard |
| 05:32.35 | fromatz | do /played |
| 05:32.40 | fromatz | then console reloadui |
| 05:32.57 | fromatz | its ghetto, just for testing |
| 05:33.05 | fromatz | so i dont have to wait till the end of the game |
| 05:33.06 | Cidan | then every time you do /played, it will insert dupe data |
| 05:33.21 | Cidan | because it doesn't check to see if the previous data is there |
| 05:33.24 | fromatz | yes i know, eventually it will only trigger the function at the end of the game |
| 05:33.43 | fromatz | so it will trigger once for every game |
| 05:33.53 | Cidan | Hoookay, well then, okay. Move lines 3 and 4 outside of the function anyways. :P |
| 05:33.56 | fromatz | and it will log all games and all stats from all player sin every game |
| 05:34.23 | Cidan | now second |
| 05:34.31 | Cidan | I'm a bit confused as to how you are laying this out... |
| 05:34.50 | Cidan | How are you going to link BGInfo to the players? |
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| 05:35.03 | fromatz | 3rd party program that parses the file |
| 05:35.07 | fromatz | that ill write |
| 05:35.36 | Cidan | but how does it know what is in BGInfo and how it relates to the BGPlayerInfo? |
| 05:35.39 | Recluse | anyone know how large herb/mine detection 'radius' is from character? |
| 05:35.43 | Cidan | I mean, unless you parse it only once |
| 05:35.48 | Cidan | and then start over |
| 05:36.01 | Shirik | so Cidan I found this awesome bug in Vista the other day |
| 05:36.06 | Cidan | Shirik: D: |
| 05:36.12 | Shirik | I think it's exploitable too, I just don't know how yet |
| 05:36.18 | Cidan | oOooo, Do tell |
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| 05:36.53 | Shirik | So when Swing (Java) creates a frame, and then the debugger suspends the application, if you click on that window while it's suspended, Windows detects the application as "not responding" and takes over the frame, right? |
| 05:37.13 | fromatz | cause i know how the savedvariables file is formatted |
| 05:37.37 | fromatz | so i will loop through the file till .eof |
| 05:37.44 | Cidan | fromatz: ergh, okay, you have BGInfo, you have BGPlayerInfo, how do you know which player info goes with what BGInfo? |
| 05:37.50 | Shirik | Well if you move the window, it goes completely black (kinda strange). When you resume the application, swing, instead of taking back the window like it's supposed to be able to, gets a completely new window |
| 05:37.56 | Shirik | Which sounds ok |
| 05:38.12 | Shirik | except that the old window is there. Minor nuisence, but whatever, right? |
| 05:38.12 | fromatz | because it stacks the games and the players info |
| 05:38.13 | Shirik | Not really. |
| 05:38.47 | Shirik | Thing is, even after the JVM shuts down, the window stayed up! If you clicked on it, it would act like it wasn't there (you click whatever's behind it) and it's just this big black box. Then came the trouble.... |
| 05:38.48 | Cidan | Shirik: Elevated? |
| 05:39.25 | Shirik | You can't kill it because the JVM is already shut down (wtf is running it?) You can't click 'close' because Windows just reports it as not responding and then can't close it (because there's no process). So I wrote a C application |
| 05:39.42 | Shirik | A C application to go in and get the process controlling that window, then run OpenProcess() on it |
| 05:39.49 | Shirik | The OpenProcess() call resulted in a BOSD |
| 05:39.50 | Shirik | BSOD* |
| 05:40.04 | Shirik | UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP |
| 05:40.09 | Cidan | fromatz: Ergh, okay, I have two arrays, BGInfo = { bg1, bg2, bg3 } then BGPlayerInfo = {player 1 bg1, player2 bg1, player 1 bg2, ...}; <-- How do you tell the diff? |
| 05:40.25 | Cidan | HAH |
| 05:40.41 | Cidan | Well unlikely you can root the machine or anything, but, that's funny. |
| 05:40.50 | Shirik | well i'm going to find out exactly what I can do |
| 05:40.55 | Shirik | because SOMETHING is going wrong in the kernel |
| 05:41.04 | Shirik | and that's never good :P |
| 05:41.07 | Cidan | I don't think you can exploit it, you can BSOD a machine easier |
| 05:41.18 | Cidan | But a funny bug none-the-less |
| 05:41.20 | Shirik | Well I can BSOD a machine by calling KeBugCheckEx() |
| 05:41.23 | Shirik | but that's boring :P |
| 05:42.04 | Cidan | Hm |
| 05:42.17 | fromatz | its like this BGInfo = { {bg1}, {bg2}, {bg3} } then BGPlayerInfo = {{bg1players}, {bg2players}, {bg3players}}; |
| 05:42.41 | Cidan | well that's not how you're inserting it atm, you realize that right? |
| 05:43.09 | fromatz | table.insert(BGPlayerInfo, {name .. " " .. kb .. " " .. d .. " " .. hk .. " " .. damage .. " " .. healing}); |
| 05:43.16 | Cidan | you're just putting BGPlayerInfo = {{player}, {player}, {player}}; |
| 05:43.18 | Guillotine | hmmm... anybody seen http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8264-EfficientSlashScript.html#info ? Is a table lookup and 2 function calls really all that much more efficient than a loadstring? |
| 05:43.37 | Cidan | right, there is no way to figure out what player belongs to what BG |
| 05:44.28 | Cidan | you'd have to do something like |
| 05:44.48 | fromatz | i had it earlier, but i cant find the pastey of the output |
| 05:44.58 | fromatz | either way it could be parsed since i have bg size of each bg |
| 05:45.17 | Cidan | I suppose, you could get x number of players down the list |
| 05:45.20 | fromatz | you just parse while 1 <= bgsize |
| 05:45.44 | Cidan | oh well, move those lines outside, and your code should work |
| 05:45.55 | fromatz | ill give it a whirl, thanks for the input |
| 05:46.00 | Cidan | YES SIR |
| 05:46.01 | fromatz | appreciate it |
| 05:46.18 | fromatz | i have to learn some how ;p |
| 05:47.48 | fromatz | still no dice |
| 05:47.56 | fromatz | it just prints out the game im in -- > http://wowi.pastey.net/82955 |
| 05:48.54 | Cidan | ah |
| 05:49.06 | Cidan | do us a favor |
| 05:49.21 | Cidan | put local in front of name, kb, hk, deaths, hg |
| 05:49.25 | Cidan | etc |
| 05:49.37 | fromatz | ok |
| 05:49.47 | fromatz | now if i do that are they only local to that for loop? |
| 05:50.01 | Cidan | yes |
| 05:50.17 | fromatz | so then i cant do the condition bg == "wsg" |
| 05:50.26 | fromatz | cause bg is in a seperate, oh nm |
| 05:50.32 | fromatz | you just meant those |
| 05:51.19 | fromatz | still only printing games |
| 05:51.42 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 05:51.42 | Cidan | sec |
| 05:51.43 | Shirik | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4913972337&sid=1 |
| 05:51.46 | Cidan | testing code here |
| 05:51.46 | Shirik | great thread |
| 05:54.36 | Cidan | oh man |
| 05:54.42 | Cidan | I guess I need to be in a BG |
| 05:54.43 | Cidan | huh |
| 05:54.59 | Cidan | I haven't joined a BG in like, a year |
| 05:55.23 | fromatz | lol |
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| 05:55.32 | fromatz | i just commented out everything in that second for loop |
| 05:55.34 | fromatz | except |
| 05:55.42 | fromatz | local name, kb, hk, deaths, hg, faction, rank, race, class, filename, damage, healing = GetBattlefieldScore(i); |
| 05:55.56 | fromatz | BGPlayerInfo = bg .. " " .. status .. " " .. name |
| 05:56.00 | fromatz | and it actually prints |
| 05:56.29 | fromatz | BGPlayerInfo = "Arathi Basin active Harm" |
| 05:56.56 | Guillotine | Shirik: that IS a great thread |
| 05:57.09 | fromatz | great thread was the gilgamesh thread |
| 05:57.19 | fromatz | or all of them for that matter |
| 05:57.28 | Shirik | Guillotine: The opening 6 posts are by far the best part |
| 05:57.34 | Guillotine | indeed |
| 05:58.33 | Cidan | rofl |
| 05:58.36 | Cidan | that thread == wins |
| 05:59.54 | Cidan | wow, I'm in a BG queue |
| 05:59.55 | Cidan | whew |
| 05:59.59 | Cidan | this is... strange |
| 06:01.16 | fromatz | you have to have the scoreboard open when you do /played |
| 06:02.16 | Cidan | kk |
| 06:04.51 | Cidan | stupid AV queue |
| 06:04.55 | Cidan | *kicks AV* |
| 06:05.53 | fromatz | you dont need to wait till the end of the game |
| 06:06.01 | fromatz | it will just pull the stats that are currently on the scoreboard |
| 06:06.32 | Cidan | I know, but I'm in queue |
| 06:06.39 | Cidan | and I don't want to mess up someone elses smaller game |
| 06:06.43 | Cidan | so I'm waiting for AV |
| 06:06.50 | Cidan | since I don't really *play* WoW anymore |
| 06:06.51 | Cidan | I just code |
| 06:06.56 | fromatz | thats all i do |
| 06:07.02 | fromatz | you should see how mad people get in wsg |
| 06:07.05 | fromatz | when i just stand there |
| 06:07.13 | Cidan | Ya see, I don't wanna do that |
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| 06:07.48 | Cidan | man, I miss 40 man raids, D: |
| 06:08.53 | Cidan | okay so |
| 06:09.00 | Cidan | I get an error... |
| 06:09.04 | Cidan | d is nil |
| 06:09.08 | Cidan | and now that I look at it |
| 06:09.11 | Cidan | d is never defined |
| 06:09.17 | Cidan | in BGPlayerInfo |
| 06:09.24 | Cidan | the insert lines |
| 06:09.27 | Cidan | wtf is d? |
| 06:09.41 | fromatz | ah its supposed to be deaths |
| 06:10.05 | Cidan | well that's your problem, imo |
| 06:10.09 | Cidan | it's not defined anywhere |
| 06:10.10 | Cidan | :P |
| 06:10.46 | fromatz | ok ill test that, lol what a dumb error on my part |
| 06:13.36 | Cidan | ya, I just did something silly like d = 1; |
| 06:13.38 | Cidan | and it works |
| 06:13.45 | Cidan | also |
| 06:13.46 | Cidan | christ |
| 06:13.52 | Cidan | I've forgotten how much fun BG's are |
| 06:13.53 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:13.54 | Cidan | lulz |
| 06:14.13 | Cidan | or at least, AV |
| 06:14.25 | Cidan | Now I remember why I love PvP so much; just wish it were in the real world |
| 06:14.30 | Cidan | RATHER |
| 06:14.37 | Cidan | non-instances world |
| 06:14.46 | Cidan | PvP in the real world == prison, D: |
| 06:16.11 | fromatz | still no dice |
| 06:16.14 | fromatz | this is weird |
| 06:16.31 | fromatz | im getting BGPlayerInfo = "Arathi Basin active Harm" |
| 06:16.33 | Cidan | Do you have lua errors enabled? |
| 06:16.39 | fromatz | and i took the line of code out that did that |
| 06:16.52 | fromatz | so nothing is every getting written to that saved variable |
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| 06:17.03 | fromatz | so it must never get into that if statement |
| 06:17.10 | fromatz | even though the condition IS met |
| 06:17.34 | Cidan | well I just putted the table data to the screen to test |
| 06:17.37 | Cidan | and it worked |
| 06:18.19 | fromatz | this is the exact version i am using |
| 06:18.19 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/82956 |
| 06:19.27 | Cidan | insert into line 18 something like, DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(bg); |
| 06:19.31 | Cidan | and check the output |
| 06:20.44 | fromatz | its not printing to screen |
| 06:20.55 | Cidan | That's... not right |
| 06:21.00 | Cidan | bg is empty |
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| 06:21.09 | fromatz | it shouldnt be |
| 06:21.21 | fromatz | when i do BGPlayerInfo = bg it prints warsong gulch |
| 06:21.24 | Cidan | sigh |
| 06:21.39 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.39 | Cidan | 8 status, bg, id, lowlevel, highlevel, size = GetBattlefieldStatus(i); |
| 06:21.59 | Cidan | define status, bg, id, lowlevel, highlevel, size OUTSIDE of the first for loop |
| 06:22.14 | Cidan | do local status, bg, id, lowlevel, highlevel, size; |
| 06:22.17 | fromatz | so it is a scope issue then |
| 06:22.58 | Cidan | also |
| 06:23.00 | Cidan | wtf |
| 06:23.03 | Cidan | lua has break? |
| 06:23.03 | Fisker- | LOLDONGS |
| 06:23.13 | Esamynn | good night |
| 06:23.37 | fromatz | yeah |
| 06:23.40 | fromatz | i looked it up |
| 06:23.43 | Cidan | lua> local eh = {1,2,3}; for i,k in pairs(eh) do print(k); break; end |
| 06:23.43 | lua_bot | Cidan: 1 |
| 06:23.46 | Cidan | holy shit |
| 06:23.49 | Cidan | since when? |
| 06:24.01 | Shirik | .... |
| 06:24.02 | fromatz | it has to be right before an end |
| 06:24.09 | fromatz | otherwise it doesnt work |
| 06:24.09 | Shirik | You asked me if Lua has continue, never break... |
| 06:24.12 | Shirik | uh, no it doesn't |
| 06:24.16 | Shirik | well |
| 06:24.20 | Cidan | That wouldn't make sense if it did |
| 06:24.21 | Shirik | it has to make sense |
| 06:24.32 | Shirik | That doesn't necessarily mean it has to be right before an and |
| 06:24.38 | Shirik | but you can't have instructions after it in the same block |
| 06:24.48 | Shirik | because Lua goes "wtf this code will never run" |
| 06:25.00 | Cidan | lua> local eh = {1,2,3}; for i,k in pairs(eh) do if k == 1 then print(k); break; else print("lol"); end end |
| 06:25.00 | lua_bot | Cidan: 1 |
| 06:25.06 | Cidan | lua> local eh = {1,2,3}; for i,k in pairs(eh) do if k == 2 then print(k); break; else print("lol"); end end |
| 06:25.06 | lua_bot | Cidan: lol, 2 |
| 06:25.07 | Shirik | right :) |
| 06:25.12 | Shirik | However, something like this... |
| 06:25.15 | Gngsk | has break but not continue, prolly why you're confused |
| 06:25.21 | Cidan | OH RIGHT |
| 06:25.22 | Cidan | NEVERMIND |
| 06:25.27 | Cidan | I'm thinking continue |
| 06:25.28 | fromatz | because when that for loop finds the right bg i want it to break out of the for loop |
| 06:25.30 | Cidan | christ I need sleep |
| 06:25.30 | Shirik | lua> local eh={1,2,3}; for k,v in pairs(eh) do break; print(1); end |
| 06:25.30 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: 'end' expected near 'print' |
| 06:25.32 | Cairenn | Benumbed: ping, when you can please |
| 06:25.34 | Shirik | That's why it says that |
| 06:25.38 | Shirik | Because print(1) cannot execute |
| 06:25.46 | Shirik | But you don't necessarily need an "end" after it |
| 06:25.56 | Shirik | HOWEVER |
| 06:25.57 | Shirik | this: |
| 06:26.01 | Shirik | (01:23:20) (Cidan) lua> local eh = {1,2,3}; for i,k in pairs(eh) do print(k); break; end |
| 06:26.02 | Shirik | makes no sense |
| 06:26.11 | Cidan | duh |
| 06:26.17 | Cidan | when do I ever make sense? |
| 06:26.24 | Shirik | I thought it was his code |
| 06:26.35 | Shirik | and thought it might be a reason for the problem |
| 06:26.35 | Cidan | I hate you so much, D: |
| 06:26.35 | Shirik | ANYWAY |
| 06:26.38 | Shirik | I have to get to class |
| 06:26.39 | Shirik | well |
| 06:26.42 | Shirik | I have to get to school |
| 06:26.43 | Shirik | not class |
| 06:26.44 | Cidan | at 1:26AM? |
| 06:26.48 | Shirik | yes |
| 06:26.53 | Shirik | I need to get a few thigns done |
| 06:26.55 | fromatz | http://www.lua.org/pil/4.4.html |
| 06:26.57 | Cidan | hfgl |
| 06:27.11 | Cidan | fromatz: Yeah sorry, I need sleep; I was thinking continue, not break |
| 06:27.19 | fromatz | that was one question i had |
| 06:27.19 | Cidan | fromatz: I really, really wish they would add continue |
| 06:27.22 | Shirik | fromatz: Yes, that does not say it must be immediately followed by an "end" |
| 06:27.27 | fromatz | yeah, i misread |
| 06:27.40 | fromatz | will the break i have break out of the for loop, or only the if |
| 06:27.50 | Shirik | But just think about it |
| 06:27.55 | Shirik | why WOULDN'T you do that |
| 06:28.04 | Shirik | if anything else is there, it would never be reachable |
| 06:28.07 | Shirik | that's why Lua forbids it |
| 06:28.36 | Shirik | Java also forbids this |
| 06:28.42 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/82956 |
| 06:28.55 | Cidan | C doesn't |
| 06:28.56 | Cidan | C rocks |
| 06:28.59 | Cidan | know why? |
| 06:28.59 | Cidan | goto |
| 06:29.02 | Shirik | ....... |
| 06:29.03 | Cidan | I use goto all the time |
| 06:29.05 | Shirik | I can't talk to you anymore |
| 06:29.06 | Cidan | I fucking love goto |
| 06:29.19 | Shirik | p.s. java has goto also |
| 06:29.19 | Cidan | then java sucks |
| 06:29.22 | Cidan | C wins |
| 06:29.23 | Shirik | BUT IF I EVER SEE YOU USE IT I WILL PERSONALLY COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND MUTILATE YOU |
| 06:29.27 | Cidan | ROFL |
| 06:29.31 | Cidan | I hate goto, :P |
| 06:29.37 | Shirik | good :P |
| 06:29.43 | Shirik | funny thing is I grew up on BASIC |
| 06:29.46 | Cidan | but I love continue |
| 06:29.47 | Shirik | and my code was littered with goto |
| 06:29.48 | Cidan | bastards. |
| 06:29.50 | Cidan | I want confinue |
| 06:29.53 | Cidan | er |
| 06:29.53 | Cidan | continue |
| 06:29.55 | Cidan | in lua. |
| 06:30.02 | Shirik | when I first was introduced to C and I was told I shouldn't use goto I was like "wtf why?" |
| 06:30.06 | Shirik | now I'm like "wtf why did I ever use goto" |
| 06:30.19 | Shirik | that being said |
| 06:30.21 | Shirik | Lua has a "goto" in it |
| 06:30.29 | Shirik | I am only aware of one, but it's there |
| 06:30.45 | Shirik | and seriously, gotta go |
| 06:30.46 | Shirik | take care |
| 06:30.58 | Cidan | bai |
| 06:31.52 | fromatz | eh i cant believe i cant figure this otu |
| 06:34.10 | fromatz | and i cant figure out why that doesnt print to screen |
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| 06:46.04 | Guillotine | wait, wtf, Lua has a goto? o.O |
| 06:46.33 | Guillotine | lua> "test" |
| 06:46.34 | lua_bot | Guillotine: test |
| 06:46.46 | Guillotine | hmm, how would you even use the goto? |
| 06:52.36 | kergoth | hmm, i should name my wind serpent.. it's like he has no identity right now :P |
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| 06:56.31 | Tem|AFK | not necesarily, Guillotine |
| 06:56.42 | Tem|AFK | it could just be a reserve word like in java |
| 06:56.52 | Tem|AFK | doesn't do anything, but you can't use it as a varable name |
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| 06:57.46 | Tem|AFK | oh, I misread |
| 06:57.58 | Tem|AFK | Guillotine, the goto isn't in Lua, it's in Lua's source |
| 07:01.35 | |Jelly| | I wish I could get it across to people that cue ~= queue |
| 07:02.11 | Cairenn | not even close |
| 07:02.32 | |Jelly| | How low can your arena rating get? |
| 07:02.42 | Guillotine | Tem: ohhhh |
| 07:03.02 | |Jelly| | Cause today, mine's taken a divebomb just in order to get points. Right now, I'm having to finish the 10th game ... two raid holy priests. rofl |
| 07:05.23 | fromatz | eh, why does BGPlayerInfo = {name .. " " .. race .. " " .. kb .. " " .. deaths} work |
| 07:05.32 | fromatz | and table.insert(BGPlayerInfo, {name .. " " .. kb .. " " .. deaths .. " " .. hk .. " " .. damage .. " " .. healing}); not work |
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| 07:07.38 | Shirik|Ecole | hai Cidan! |
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| 07:11.05 | MentalPower | fromatz: whats the error? |
| 07:16.20 | fromatz | i show you the pastey and try to explain |
| 07:16.48 | fromatz | http://wowi.pastey.net/82957 |
| 07:17.23 | fromatz | specifically the second for loop... i want to iterate throw the number of players in the bg im in and save their data to a table |
| 07:17.38 | fromatz | so i make a check to see if im in wsg or ab or av |
| 07:17.56 | fromatz | but some reason its never getting in those if's |
| 07:18.37 | fromatz | i think its a problem with the variable bg... |
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| 07:31.34 | fromatz | hmm i cant even get DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test"); to work |
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| 07:37.27 | Shirik|Ecole | so apparently I have these new things |
| 07:37.31 | Shirik|Ecole | chocolate skittles? |
| 07:37.36 | Shirik|Ecole | they're actually pretty good |
| 07:37.45 | fromatz | eww |
| 07:37.50 | Shirik|Ecole | I know it sounds horrible |
| 07:38.07 | fromatz | so is it like a chewy chocolate?? |
| 07:38.42 | Guillotine | its called MnMs |
| 07:38.48 | fromatz | ^^ |
| 07:39.41 | fromatz | are there any possible reasons for why DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test"); wouldnt work in an addon |
| 07:40.05 | Guillotine | the AddOn isn't installed correctly |
| 07:40.16 | fromatz | but the rest of the addon works properly |
| 07:40.42 | Guillotine | are you sure you're on the Default Chat Frame and don't accidentally have the combat log focused? |
| 07:41.06 | fromatz | positive, im on the general tab as we speak |
| 07:41.18 | Guillotine | but unless some other AddOn (or yours) does a REALLY shitty job of hooking the chat frame... it should work |
| 07:41.38 | fromatz | maybe im not adding something i need to be able to do it? |
| 07:41.48 | Guillotine | you shouldn't have to add anything |
| 07:41.54 | Guillotine | wait, is it in an event? |
| 07:42.06 | Guillotine | make sure you register for the event |
| 07:42.22 | fromatz | yup |
| 07:42.49 | fromatz | if (event == "TIME_PLAYED_MSG") then |
| 07:42.49 | fromatz | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test"); |
| 07:42.51 | fromatz | end |
| 07:43.02 | fromatz | i do /played and get nothing |
| 07:44.27 | fromatz | not being able to use that makes debugging hard |
| 07:44.35 | Cairenn | hey guys? do any of you know you know where script kiddies hang out and brag about their doings? isp for allakhazam.com null rooted them because the ddos is pushing about 6gb/sec of traffic |
| 07:44.52 | Cairenn | it's been going on since last thursday |
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| 08:01.36 | Antiarc | Cairenn: Depends on who they are |
| 08:02.28 | fromatz | why do addons hate me so |
| 08:02.57 | Cairenn | we just figure if someone's got a fairly hefty botnet to be pushing that much data, he's gotta be bragging about it somewhere |
| 08:05.21 | Antiarc | I don't generally keep tabs on those sorts of communities, but if I hear anything I'll let you know |
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| 08:05.45 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 08:05.48 | Cairenn | appreciate it |
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| 08:17.31 | Fisker- | it's routed btw |
| 08:17.44 | Fisker- | and they don't usually hang out anywhere |
| 08:18.18 | Fisker- | If you could find an infected pc you could also find out what network and channels they use to communicate with eachother |
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| 08:22.41 | Shirik|Ecole | wheeee |
| 08:22.45 | Shirik|Ecole | my first fail2ban ban on my server |
| 08:22.51 | Shirik|Ecole | (first real ban anyway) |
| 08:23.21 | Wobin_ | Cairenn: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14214417@N05/2279301945/ |
| 08:25.08 | Shirik|Ecole | awww |
| 08:25.23 | Cairenn | we do know that they are from all over the world, zombied machines, from a trojan or virus - everything from a single dialup user to a mega corp network |
| 08:25.39 | Cairenn | awwwww! cute! |
| 08:27.59 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 08:28.09 | Wobin_ | The Onion has gotten a lot more funding recently |
| 08:28.13 | Wobin_ | http://www.theonion.com/content/node/74800 |
| 08:30.16 | Fisker- | movie doesn't work |
| 08:30.16 | Fisker- | fu |
| 08:30.23 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-: thats if you can get into the infected machine |
| 08:30.24 | Fisker- | or atleast is slow like hell |
| 08:30.31 | TecnoBrat | sometimes that easy |
| 08:30.32 | Fisker- | your mother is infected |
| 08:30.35 | TecnoBrat | sometimes its not |
| 08:31.26 | Fisker- | how am i supposed to finish my assignment when i'm waiting for this crap to load? |
| 08:33.48 | Fisker- | of course shitty site could just be shiiiiitttyyyyyyyyyy |
| 08:34.14 | Fisker- | Which appears to be the case here |
| 08:37.17 | Guillotine | Hmm, the way I look at the alla thing, its either someone who has a grudge or a script kiddy having fun (in which case they would likely be bragging about it *somewhere*) |
| 08:37.35 | Cairenn | Guillotine: precisely |
| 08:38.04 | Guillotine | If it was incgamers, I'd be more tempted towards the first since they got quite a few people hacked. But Alla... who knows |
| 08:38.31 | Cairenn | it looks more likely to be the second |
| 08:38.46 | Cairenn | which is why we're hoping he might be bragging somewhere |
| 08:40.09 | Guillotine | and I assume you already googled for it, so I really can't think of anything :/ |
| 08:40.20 | Cairenn | oh, oh! they got into a couple of their log files and came up with a couple IPs |
| 08:40.31 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:41.37 | Guillotine | well, both come through Ripe.net |
| 08:42.01 | Cairenn | (because their ISP null rooted them, they've closed their channels, and thus can't get at their log files) |
| 08:42.19 | Fisker- | it's routed :P |
| 08:42.29 | Fisker- | anyways one is japanese the other is french |
| 08:42.47 | Guillotine | most of the ips they'll get are probably zombies though |
| 08:42.57 | Guillotine | that won't help |
| 08:43.01 | Cairenn | yeah, I mentioned that earlier |
| 08:43.06 | Guillotine | yah |
| 08:43.09 | Cairenn | they know that they're zombies |
| 08:43.26 | Guillotine | the best they'll get from an ip is to contact the owner and request access to logs |
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| 08:44.07 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 08:47.50 | |pez| | I need to get phonesubscription that doesn't nag me about renewal of my subscription like every other day. |
| 08:48.21 | Cairenn | morning |pez| |
| 08:48.45 | |pez| | morniin' |
| 08:48.57 | |pez| | I'll probably wander back into bed in a bit |
| 08:49.05 | |pez| | just got up to drive the boyfriend to the bus. |
| 08:49.12 | |pez| | Cause I'm horrible, and make him take the bus. |
| 08:49.20 | Kalroth | evil |
| 08:50.30 | |pez| | that's what he said. |
| 08:50.34 | |pez| | says* |
| 08:50.43 | |pez| | Aaall the way from our driveway, to the busstop |
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| 08:56.00 | |pez| | this looks horribly boring, doesn't it? :\ http://pez.selfip.net:8090/dev/webholmen/ |
| 08:57.16 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 08:57.22 | nevcairiel | needs colors |
| 08:57.50 | |pez| | I was thinking of a colored logo. |
| 08:58.08 | |pez| | but other than that, I don't see colors fitting in anywhere really. Maybe the headers.. |
| 08:58.34 | nevcairiel | some kind of logo would probably already make that thing better |
| 08:59.04 | |pez| | I was thinking of logos yesterday. |
| 08:59.50 | |pez| | and siden "holme" is sort of like a mini island right outside the shore... I was thinking that, and a penguin, since people have in the past, called me one >__> |
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| 09:01.45 | |pez| | I kinda like the thing, but yeah, as it is now, it's looks a tad boring. |
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| 09:03.43 | Guillotine | format is nice, content needs a bit of work imo |
| 09:03.59 | Guillotine | you obviously just copyrighted the Lorem ipsum from another site I saw that was in development |
| 09:04.03 | Guillotine | err, copied |
| 09:04.25 | |pez| | lorem ipsum = mine! :o ... or not really. |
| 09:04.46 | |pez| | but it's good for checking of things stretch, and look pretty when there's read text inside. |
| 09:05.10 | Guillotine | anyway, I'm off to bed, because I have to get up in a couple hours :( Night all! |
| 09:05.19 | |pez| | Ninight ^^ |
| 09:05.21 | |pez| | smeep well |
| 09:05.25 | Guillotine | thanks |
| 09:05.28 | Guillotine | I'll sleep well too |
| 09:05.37 | |pez| | I'll do the same I think. |
| 09:05.41 | |pez| | and dream about colors... |
| 09:06.30 | nevcairiel | its 10am, you cant sleep now? |
| 09:06.36 | nevcairiel | bad pez! |
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| 09:08.05 | Malgayne | oof! |
| 09:08.05 | |pez| | nevcairiel: can too! |
| 09:08.20 | |pez| | I went to bed at like.. 4ish, and then got up for the sole purpose of... driving boyfriend to work. |
| 09:08.26 | |pez| | bus to work* |
| 09:08.28 | |pez| | did that |
| 09:08.31 | |pez| | and I'm sleepy |
| 09:08.49 | nevcairiel | well then, go ahead |
| 09:08.52 | nevcairiel | and sleep well |
| 09:08.57 | |pez| | willdo! thanks ^^ |
| 09:10.20 | Shirik|Ecole | hi Malgayne! |
| 09:10.28 | Malgayne | Hey Shirik. :) |
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| 09:35.04 | Shirik|Ecole | heh, // Seriously, these comments are getting a bit repetitive |
| 09:35.12 | Cairenn | ? |
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| 09:35.43 | Shirik|Ecole | in my code :) |
| 09:35.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I was putting the same comments in every function |
| 09:35.54 | Shirik|Ecole | This time, it was just pointless |
| 09:35.58 | Shirik|Ecole | so that's what I wrote instead |
| 09:36.25 | Shirik|Ecole | it was going to be: IntelliBrain.getDigitalIO().toggle(); // toggle the pin |
| 09:36.29 | Shirik|Ecole | in a function named toggle |
| 09:36.33 | Shirik|Ecole | with one line in it |
| 09:36.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm like... forget that. |
| 09:37.24 | Maldivia | what if people don't have access to the code, and just the docs, how are they to know what is being toggled ? - remember, users are stupid until proven not to be |
| 09:38.54 | Shirik|Ecole | the /documentation/ tells exactly what it does |
| 09:38.56 | Shirik|Ecole | this is inside the code :P |
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| 09:39.03 | Shirik|Ecole | the documentation says this: |
| 09:39.21 | nevcairiel | look what you did Maldivia, now he pastes his docs <.< |
| 09:39.55 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: sorry :| |
| 09:39.59 | Shirik|Ecole | "Toggles the digital output -- if the pin was set high, then it will become low. If it was low, it will become high. This is guaranteed to be an atomic operation" "Code 0x47 CMD_DIGITAL_TOGGLE" "Parameters: none" "Exceptions: none" "Ridgesoft Equivalent: com.ridgesoft.Intellibrain.DigitalIO.toggle()" |
| 09:40.00 | Shirik|Ecole | happy? :P |
| 09:40.15 | nevcairiel | mm i need a toggle for becoming high too |
| 09:40.33 | Shirik|Ecole | and exactly WHAT is being toggled is dependent upon the bot it's running on |
| 09:40.37 | Shirik|Ecole | all I know is that it's some pin |
| 09:40.49 | Shirik|Ecole | if the user doesn't know what they hooked up to that pin, it's their own damn fault |
| 09:41.01 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: just don't use it twice, then you'll be low again :| |
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| 09:47.21 | Shirik|Ecole | whee |
| 09:47.28 | Shirik|Ecole | only 2 pages left to implement |
| 09:47.30 | Shirik|Ecole | 6 functions |
| 09:47.35 | Shirik|Ecole | time for a break; |
| 09:47.38 | Shirik|Ecole | wow |
| 09:47.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I can't believe I put a semicolon after that >< |
| 09:47.50 | Shirik|Ecole | too many switch-case statements >< |
| 09:48.00 | nevcairiel | i only finished the base framework yesterday, so much modules to write <.< |
| 09:54.50 | Shirik|Ecole | http://wowi.pastey.net/82961-3xt4 |
| 09:55.01 | Shirik|Ecole | only 6 more cases to go in that switch, yey. |
| 09:55.31 | nevcairiel | at least you dont have to do it with if's! |
| 09:55.37 | Shirik|Ecole | haha |
| 09:55.44 | Shirik|Ecole | but at least you don't have to do it over a serial line! |
| 09:55.55 | Shirik|Ecole | man, I'm going to show this program |
| 09:55.57 | Shirik|Ecole | and he's going to read it |
| 09:56.03 | Shirik|Ecole | and be like "wtf is with his comments, was he drunk?" |
| 09:56.09 | Shirik|Ecole | and then he's going to go "wtf was he doing on this at 4 AM" |
| 09:56.29 | Tem|AFK | isn't it 5 for you, Shirik|Ecole ? |
| 09:56.35 | Shirik|Ecole | 5 |
| 09:56.36 | Shirik|Ecole | whatever :P |
| 09:56.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I got here at 1 |
| 09:58.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I do have a question for you guys |
| 09:58.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I have two functions: Speaker.beep() and Speaker.click() |
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| 09:58.39 | Shirik|Ecole | what's the difference? |
| 09:58.48 | nevcairiel | beep beeps, and click clicks? |
| 09:58.51 | nevcairiel | different sounds |
| 09:59.20 | Shirik|Ecole | they are? |
| 09:59.21 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 09:59.27 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe I'm not thinking about one of them correctly |
| 09:59.38 | nevcairiel | just a guess :P |
| 09:59.42 | Shirik|Ecole | oh well! I don't have to care what it does, I just need to get it done. |
| 10:04.38 | Shirik|Ecole | oh shit |
| 10:04.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I forgot about this function.... |
| 10:05.05 | Shirik|Ecole | 9 parameters, each is 4 bytes long >< |
| 10:05.10 | Shirik|Ecole | and I have to extract and decode them all |
| 10:05.17 | Shirik|Ecole | How cruel of me to put it at the end of the document |
| 10:05.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought I was so close to done... |
| 10:20.30 | Tem|AFK | zee oh em f'ing gee |
| 10:20.36 | Tem|AFK | I hate formatting output |
| 10:24.51 | Shirik|Ecole | well fortunately I wrote some functions to help me :) |
| 10:24.57 | Shirik|Ecole | It doesn't do negative numbers correctly but it's close enough |
| 10:25.29 | Tem|AFK | I'm dealing with printing out Scheme code |
| 10:25.38 | Tem|AFK | with proper indenting |
| 10:25.40 | Tem|AFK | and stuff |
| 10:26.04 | Shirik|Ecole | heh, scheme |
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| 11:01.44 | Shirik|Ecole | anyone know off the top of their head the default SVN port? |
| 11:02.00 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: 3690 |
| 11:02.04 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 |
| 11:02.05 | Cide | or 3960 |
| 11:02.07 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 11:02.10 | Cide | but I think it's the former |
| 11:02.11 | Shirik|Ecole | pick one >< |
| 11:02.12 | Shirik|Ecole | blhe |
| 11:02.18 | Shirik|Ecole | now I have go look it up :( |
| 11:02.32 | Cide | cry more |
| 11:02.37 | Cide | 3690 :P |
| 11:02.38 | Cide | told ya |
| 11:03.01 | Cide | (I looked it up) |
| 11:04.12 | nevcairiel | 3690 |
| 11:04.12 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 <3 |
| 11:04.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I forgot to permit SVN on iptables >.> |
| 11:04.13 | nevcairiel | all svn i use is through apache :/ |
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| 11:05.01 | Cide | svnserve is so much simpler |
| 11:05.03 | nevcairiel | wee login and logout works on my CMS |
| 11:07.29 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide I use svnserve |
| 11:07.33 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 11:07.36 | Shirik|Ecole | that was at nevcairiel |
| 11:07.40 | Cide | yeah |
| 11:07.41 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah svnserve is so much easier to use |
| 11:07.47 | Shirik|Ecole | though for some reason my svnserve runs as user apache |
| 11:07.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I need to fix that |
| 11:07.50 | nevcairiel | i figured as much when oyu need the port |
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| 11:07.56 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't even have apache installed.... |
| 11:08.09 | nevcairiel | i run apache on that box anyway, since i use it for testing the stuff i commit =P |
| 11:08.12 | nevcairiel | so whatever |
| 11:08.21 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, tagged 0.2.0 |
| 11:08.24 | Shirik|Ecole | now it's time to go nuts |
| 11:08.28 | Tem|AFK | whew |
| 11:08.29 | Tem|AFK | done |
| 11:08.31 | Shirik|Ecole | tear it to pieces and see what improvements I can make |
| 11:08.33 | Tem|AFK | time to submit this beast |
| 11:09.09 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 11:09.31 | nevcairiel | i should setup a post-commit script that updates my development webserver when i commit something |
| 11:10.12 | Cide | nevcairiel: yep, that's awesome |
| 11:10.17 | Cide | and simple |
| 11:10.26 | nevcairiel | i suppose |
| 11:10.34 | nevcairiel | never cared to do those hooks before |
| 11:10.38 | Shirik|Ecole | sigh |
| 11:10.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't get it! |
| 11:10.44 | Shirik|Ecole | One of my commands takes 300ms |
| 11:11.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I should add a sequence number to transmissions so they don't get duplicated, hm |
| 11:11.09 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: stop trying to figure out the number before infinity |
| 11:11.30 | Shirik|Ecole | but that's a lot of work and will take a lot of time I don't have... |
| 11:12.59 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 11:13.01 | Shirik|Ecole | security just walked in |
| 11:13.06 | Shirik|Ecole | "hi can I see your card" |
| 11:13.10 | nevcairiel | i just place a post-commit file in my repos hooks dir and it should "just work" ? o.O |
| 11:13.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I should have told him I was here 3 hours ago |
| 11:13.35 | Shirik|Ecole | 6AM is semi-normal |
| 11:13.37 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 11:16.41 | Cide | nevcairiel: yep |
| 11:16.45 | Cide | nevcairiel: what os? |
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| 11:16.48 | nevcairiel | linux |
| 11:16.56 | Cide | yeah, just name it post-commit then |
| 11:17.14 | nevcairiel | does it spout errors somewhere? doesnt seem to work |
| 11:17.24 | Cide | no |
| 11:17.30 | Cide | you have to catch them yourself |
| 11:18.04 | nevcairiel | good old redirect then |
| 11:18.05 | Shirik|Ecole | you have to not suck, is what Cide is saying |
| 11:18.18 | Tem|AFK | GOD DAMNIT |
| 11:18.21 | Cide | my post-commit file is just: |
| 11:18.26 | Tem|AFK | my text editor just crashed when I went to save my readme |
| 11:18.32 | Cide | /usr/bin/svn up /path/to/repos |
| 11:18.36 | Tem|AFK | now I have to write the goddamn thing again. |
| 11:18.44 | Cide | and that's it |
| 11:18.48 | nevcairiel | thats what i did |
| 11:18.58 | Cide | or rather, //path/to/working-copy |
| 11:19.13 | Cide | s/\/\//\// |
| 11:20.00 | Cide | clad|office: ping |
| 11:20.40 | clad|office | pong |
| 11:20.58 | Cide | do you know how the auth batons work in the svn api? they're a pain for me |
| 11:21.08 | clad|office | no, I don't =/ |
| 11:21.15 | Cide | boo. alright, thanks anyway |
| 11:29.04 | foxlit | Hm, that's the second time wow crashes with "pure virtual function call" while reloading UI |
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| 11:30.45 | nevcairiel | meh my commit hook is failing because it cant verify the server certificate (i use on that apache), and i cant hit accept on the interactive prompt =P |
| 11:33.52 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit: pure virtuals are fun |
| 11:34.07 | Shirik|Ecole | Someone at one of my meetings a few days ago was like "Wtf, you set a function equal to zero" |
| 11:37.27 | Tem|AFK | well, that took 30 minutes longer than I wanted it to |
| 11:37.40 | Shirik|Ecole | ~hug Tem|AFK |
| 11:37.41 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Tem|AFK |
| 11:37.41 | Tem|AFK | night guys |
| 11:38.00 | foxlit | Hm, third time |
| 11:38.04 | Tem|AFK | got the damn thing submitted and I'm going to fricking bed |
| 11:38.04 | foxlit | Wonder if that's something I'm doing :( |
| 11:38.10 | Tem|AFK | good luck, Shirik|Ecole |
| 11:38.11 | nevcairiel | on live or ptr? |
| 11:38.14 | foxlit | live |
| 11:38.31 | nevcairiel | i bet its something you're doing if it just started |
| 11:38.43 | foxlit | I can't reliably replicate it, though |
| 11:38.47 | foxlit | I'm mainly messing with fonts |
| 11:38.56 | nevcairiel | fonts have been causing crashes before |
| 11:38.57 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 11:39.22 | foxlit | But only during some reloads, it seems downright odd |
| 11:39.38 | Shirik|Ecole | so I broke something |
| 11:39.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't know what |
| 11:39.42 | Shirik|Ecole | but I broke it |
| 11:39.54 | nevcairiel | hooray? |
| 11:39.54 | Shirik|Ecole | Now I'm debating whether or not I revert back to the tag I made on svn |
| 11:40.00 | Shirik|Ecole | :< |
| 11:40.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I commented something out, it broke, I uncommented it, and it's still broke |
| 11:40.11 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 11:40.20 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 11:41.13 | Maldivia | ahh... bugs when they are the best 9 |
| 11:41.29 | foxlit | Think that's the project's way of telling you "stop touching me!" |
| 11:41.55 | Maldivia | foxlit: no, that's just your inner voice... |
| 11:44.25 | Shirik|Ecole | I hate bugs on this thing |
| 11:44.30 | Shirik|Ecole | it takes 30 seconds to upload the code |
| 11:44.35 | Shirik|Ecole | and there's no way to see the exception trace or anything |
| 11:44.54 | Shirik|Ecole | so you just have to guess at what the problem is and turn on or off LEDs to help you know whether or not you're right |
| 11:45.47 | Shirik|Ecole | fortunately, I'm really good at guessing |
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| 11:47.35 | Shirik|Ecole | ....... |
| 11:47.46 | Shirik|Ecole | yet another case of ridgesoft conveniently leaving something out in the documentation |
| 11:48.03 | Shirik|Ecole | developers, if your functions throw exceptions, tell us ALL of them, not half of them! |
| 11:52.23 | foxlit | "...Let's fight crime with mangos and limes..." |
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| 11:54.36 | [Liq] | If Google was to create a wifi hotspot technology, it would be called Gspot. And for those who wish to connect directly to the router, they can use Google's custom ethernet cables call Gstring. |
| 11:57.13 | art3mis | my goodness this spam filter thing is awesome |
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| 12:12.43 | Shirik|Ecole | so |
| 12:12.47 | Shirik|Ecole | do I go home and get a few hours sleep |
| 12:12.53 | Shirik|Ecole | or do I stay here and work on random crap |
| 12:13.21 | art3mis | you need to start carrying a travel pillow |
| 12:13.43 | art3mis | then youcan just nap on benches like the other hippie students |
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| 12:16.49 | Shirik|Ecole | haha |
| 12:16.50 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 12:16.55 | Shirik|Ecole | there are enough other people that do that here |
| 12:17.00 | Shirik|Ecole | well it seems like they do |
| 12:17.09 | Shirik|Ecole | I never actually have caught someone sleeping here but there are some people that always seem to be here |
| 12:17.12 | Shirik|Ecole | like Jason and me |
| 12:17.18 | Shirik|Ecole | which reminds me, Jason needs to gtfo |
| 12:17.22 | Shirik|Ecole | he's been here for like 8 years |
| 12:19.08 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway I think I'm going to go home for a bit |
| 12:19.14 | Shirik|Ecole | probably not go to sleep but w/e |
| 12:19.17 | Shirik|Ecole | I need to take a break from all this |
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| 12:33.53 | art3mis | it would be awesome if they sneaked in 2.4 today |
| 12:34.05 | art3mis | just cuz everyone is totally not ready for it |
| 12:34.14 | Kalroth | including Blizzard themself. :p |
| 12:37.14 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 12:37.22 | art3mis | itll keep the gms on thier toes |
| 12:38.03 | Lukian | what's that site that lets you sandbox your character profile? |
| 12:39.45 | Lukian | http://www.warcrafter.net/ , ty. |
| 12:41.48 | Shirik|AFK | how is that "gear score" rated? |
| 12:42.07 | Shirik|AFK | is 1013 good? |
| 12:42.42 | nevcairiel | i think its total item level |
| 12:42.47 | nevcairiel | sum of all items |
| 12:42.48 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 12:42.49 | Shirik|AFK | that site has some really nice stats |
| 12:42.57 | Shirik|AFK | all heals broken down into HPS/HPM |
| 12:43.24 | Shirik|AFK | Man, I knew that PoM was efficient |
| 12:43.43 | Shirik|AFK | but I didn't realize it was twice as good as a renew, and nearly 4 times as good as a greater heal |
| 12:43.54 | nevcairiel | still depends on healing coefficient |
| 12:43.55 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 12:44.04 | Shirik|AFK | well I think that's taken into account |
| 12:44.09 | Shirik|AFK | based off the way it's presented |
| 12:44.25 | Shirik|AFK | and this is with my pvp spec lol |
| 12:44.27 | nevcairiel | lifebloom does 1650 HPS, and i can keep that on 4 targets |
| 12:44.28 | nevcairiel | ftw? :) |
| 12:45.16 | nevcairiel | altho i am not sure it handles lifebloom correctly due to its unique mechanism |
| 12:45.21 | Shirik|AFK | :< |
| 12:45.23 | Shirik|AFK | druids ftl |
| 12:45.35 | Shirik|AFK | wtf |
| 12:45.36 | Shirik|AFK | 1650 hps? |
| 12:45.40 | Shirik|AFK | No way |
| 12:45.44 | nevcairiel | http://antonidas-eu.warcrafter.net/Nevcairiel |
| 12:45.57 | Shirik|AFK | yeah.......... |
| 12:46.03 | Shirik|AFK | I don't think so |
| 12:46.08 | Shirik|AFK | I think it's only counting the whomp lol |
| 12:46.13 | Shirik|AFK | wait |
| 12:46.16 | Shirik|AFK | wtf at healing touch |
| 12:46.21 | Shirik|AFK | bleh |
| 12:46.25 | Shirik|AFK | druids ftl |
| 12:46.35 | Shirik|AFK | I need to go back to raid spec and see what my stats look like then |
| 12:46.40 | Shirik|AFK | or put on my pvp gear in this spec |
| 12:46.55 | nevcairiel | dont beat yourself, i bet my equip is vastly superior to yours too =P |
| 12:47.07 | Shirik|AFK | well yeah but it still should be ok |
| 12:47.10 | mikma | http://silvermoon-eu.warcrafter.net/Aah |
| 12:47.13 | Shirik|AFK | and it's rating me blue/green in some places :( |
| 12:47.23 | Shirik|AFK | well green in health |
| 12:47.30 | Shirik|AFK | blue/purple in everything else |
| 12:47.33 | Shirik|AFK | not fair |
| 12:47.52 | nevcairiel | haha my mana reg is legendary |
| 12:47.52 | mikma | lawl, i have my "feralgear" on |
| 12:48.05 | Shirik|AFK | yeah I saw that |
| 12:48.10 | Shirik|AFK | I was like "you know what, go die" |
| 12:48.16 | Shirik|AFK | then I closed the window |
| 12:48.23 | Kalroth | lol |
| 12:48.47 | Shirik|AFK | though actually |
| 12:48.50 | Shirik|AFK | mine isn't too too far off yours |
| 12:48.54 | Shirik|AFK | you only have about 50 more than me |
| 12:49.07 | Shirik|AFK | less than that even because I'm currently pvp specced |
| 12:49.26 | nevcairiel | i cant wait for 2.4 |
| 12:49.31 | nevcairiel | the new improved mana reg is so awesome |
| 12:49.32 | Shirik|AFK | I have more mana than you though |
| 12:49.33 | Shirik|AFK | for win! |
| 12:49.39 | Shirik|AFK | you have blue mana |
| 12:49.41 | Shirik|AFK | I have purple mana |
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| 12:49.46 | nevcairiel | what value? |
| 12:49.51 | Shirik|AFK | and I have purple spirit |
| 12:49.53 | Shirik|AFK | owned |
| 12:50.07 | Shirik|AFK | 11.3k mana, 452 spirit |
| 12:50.14 | nevcairiel | buffed? |
| 12:50.17 | Shirik|AFK | don't think so |
| 12:50.24 | nevcairiel | 11.3k mana unbuffed is crazy |
| 12:50.28 | nevcairiel | unless you're disc specced |
| 12:50.30 | Shirik|AFK | I was just afk in shatt at the time |
| 12:50.36 | Shirik|AFK | I'm currently disc specced so that helps like I said |
| 12:50.37 | Shirik|AFK | pvp spec |
| 12:50.40 | art3mis | http://echoisles-us.warcrafter.net/Rozalyn |
| 12:50.50 | nevcairiel | disc spec boosts your mana, thats unfair =P |
| 12:50.52 | Shirik|AFK | STILL I OWNED YOU ADMIT IT |
| 12:51.00 | nevcairiel | i could spec feral and blow your mana out |
| 12:51.03 | Shirik|AFK | lol |
| 12:51.07 | Stanzilla | http://zirkeldescenarius-eu.warcrafter.net/Arcádia |
| 12:51.08 | nevcairiel | 13k mana unbuffed ftw |
| 12:51.10 | Shirik|AFK | and you could also blow up that mana in about 2 seconds |
| 12:51.31 | nevcairiel | probably =P |
| 12:51.38 | Shirik|AFK | I do want to see what it has to say about my pvp gear though |
| 12:51.45 | Shirik|AFK | let me see if I can convince it to switch |
| 12:52.13 | nevcairiel | in general a logout in gear, and hitting resync on warcrafter should work |
| 12:52.45 | Shirik|AFK | yeah that's what I'm doing right now |
| 12:52.49 | nevcairiel | i bet Stanzilla cheated, he is in sandbox mode |
| 12:52.57 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 12:53.20 | Stanzilla | I just clicked resync |
| 12:53.45 | Shirik|AFK | server shutdown in 7:00?! |
| 12:53.46 | Shirik|AFK | aah |
| 12:53.48 | Shirik|AFK | just in time |
| 12:53.48 | Shirik|AFK | lol |
| 12:53.50 | Stanzilla | but I have the stupid karabor neck equipped :( |
| 12:53.59 | Shirik|AFK | I'll help you nevcairiel |
| 12:54.04 | Shirik|AFK | I won't log buffed, k? |
| 12:54.06 | Shirik|AFK | I have no buffs on |
| 12:54.50 | nevcairiel | legendary mana regen still > epic mana pool |
| 12:54.51 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 12:55.54 | Shirik|AFK | meh |
| 12:55.57 | Shirik|AFK | I'm pvp specced |
| 12:56.35 | Shirik|AFK | I will destroy you soon |
| 12:56.35 | Shirik|AFK | when we start owning faces in BT |
| 12:56.35 | Shirik|AFK | and then go into the sunwell |
| 12:56.35 | Shirik|AFK | and one shot everything on the first day |
| 12:56.35 | Shirik|AFK | and all the holy priest gear drops |
| 12:56.39 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 12:56.39 | Shirik|AFK | and because I'm the only holy priest I get it |
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| 12:57.01 | nevcairiel | i still hope fucking illidan drops the healer trinket .. just once .. please? :( |
| 12:57.11 | Shirik|AFK | anyway |
| 12:57.16 | Shirik|AFK | resync isn't working :( |
| 12:57.27 | nevcairiel | armory probably didnt update |
| 12:57.50 | Shirik|AFK | yeah |
| 12:58.18 | nevcairiel | hm i'm like 100 mana short of epic mana |
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| 12:58.42 | Shirik|AFK | something's really wrong though |
| 12:58.51 | Shirik|AFK | It says I've only got 300 mp5 OOC |
| 12:59.02 | Shirik|AFK | that's not right unless my raid spec helps a ton |
| 12:59.11 | Shirik|AFK | oh, 393 heh |
| 12:59.12 | Shirik|AFK | ok |
| 12:59.15 | Shirik|AFK | that's a little more reasonable |
| 12:59.31 | Shirik|AFK | That's another thing I don't like |
| 12:59.35 | Shirik|AFK | this site only ranks mp5 |
| 12:59.40 | Shirik|AFK | in combat mp5 that is |
| 12:59.46 | Shirik|AFK | Priests excel at OOC regen |
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| 12:59.59 | Shirik|AFK | The mere fact that greater heal is so long asserts that |
| 13:01.28 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: OOFSR regen you mean :P |
| 13:01.37 | nevcairiel | i spam HoTs all day, no time for OOFSR |
| 13:01.41 | Shirik|AFK | yes, but everyone just called it OOC so I gave up |
| 13:01.43 | nevcairiel | i need FSR-regen |
| 13:01.46 | Shirik|AFK | and besides |
| 13:01.47 | Shirik|AFK | it's 5SR |
| 13:01.48 | Shirik|AFK | not FSR |
| 13:01.55 | nevcairiel | Five starts with a F |
| 13:01.56 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:01.56 | Cide | well, I guess OOC works |
| 13:02.05 | Shirik|AFK | I used to call it 5SR |
| 13:02.05 | Cide | if you let C = 'casting' |
| 13:02.08 | Shirik|AFK | but nobody knows what that is |
| 13:02.10 | Cide | but it's not really correct either |
| 13:02.13 | Shirik|AFK | because todays' healers are morons |
| 13:02.40 | bleeter | NO U |
| 13:02.45 | Shirik|AFK | It's why priests keep complaining, because the good majority of them don't know what they're doing |
| 13:02.48 | nevcairiel | i bet bleeter is a healer |
| 13:02.50 | bleeter | or alternatively... |
| 13:02.51 | foxlit | WNC is clearly a superiod acronym :P |
| 13:02.54 | Shirik|AFK | "qq I have no regen" |
| 13:03.00 | Shirik|AFK | LEARN TO USE THE FIVE SECOND RULE |
| 13:03.01 | bleeter | if today's healers are morons.. we all know the reason why |
| 13:03.09 | Shirik|AFK | Priests should have no problem weaving in and out of it |
| 13:03.11 | Cide | hey |
| 13:03.13 | Cide | I'm an awesome healer |
| 13:03.14 | Shirik|AFK | bleeter: If anyone's to blame it's me. |
| 13:03.19 | Cide | in fact, I'm awesome at every aspect of the gma |
| 13:03.21 | Shirik|AFK | me > Cide though |
| 13:03.21 | foxlit | qq lifebloom, qq |
| 13:03.21 | Cide | game |
| 13:03.27 | nevcairiel | i always complain at our priests when they're OOM again |
| 13:03.34 | nevcairiel | and cry for a shadowpriest |
| 13:03.36 | nevcairiel | morons :P |
| 13:03.37 | Shirik|AFK | nevcairiel: I am usually the one with full mana |
| 13:03.46 | bleeter | nevcairiel: DPS, but levelling a druid and holy priest atm (priest's 'stuck' at lvl 62 atm) |
| 13:03.48 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: |
| 13:03.53 | Cide | >>> SV.Cide > SV.Shirik |
| 13:03.53 | Cide | Cide: true |
| 13:03.54 | Shirik|AFK | In fact, I am the one who told the raid leader "get the damn shadowpriest out of our group, she should be with the DPS" |
| 13:03.59 | foxlit | There's really only one situation where we use shadow priests for healers |
| 13:04.13 | foxlit | Flames of Azzinoth :*( |
| 13:04.18 | Shirik|AFK | "The healers can handle their mana, and if they can't, they don't belong here." |
| 13:04.26 | nevcairiel | Shirik|AFK: i'm one of the raid leaders .. i just yell at the priests |
| 13:04.32 | nevcairiel | all other healers do fine without a shadow priest |
| 13:04.34 | Shirik|AFK | then you need better priests |
| 13:04.38 | nevcairiel | just they .. cant |
| 13:04.49 | Shirik|AFK | I have no problem whatsoever |
| 13:05.03 | nevcairiel | we just reduced their raid force, two places to generally only one :P |
| 13:05.13 | foxlit | But tbh, it's easier to swap for that then find decent priests. |
| 13:05.15 | Shirik|AFK | soon 0 |
| 13:05.23 | Shirik|AFK | or do you need a spirit buff :P |
| 13:05.27 | bleeter | Cide: awesome at breaking it for everyone :P |
| 13:05.37 | Cide | bleeter: hey, that's another aspect! |
| 13:05.38 | Shirik|AFK | I'm deep holy, screw divine spirit |
| 13:05.44 | nevcairiel | spirit is nice to have, but we've had enough raids without it, because CoH is ftw |
| 13:05.49 | Shirik|AFK | CoH is <3 <3 |
| 13:05.59 | nevcairiel | CoH is the only reason priests _may_ run oom |
| 13:06.06 | Shirik|AFK | And I have people constantly yelling at me for topping both the healing charts and the overheal charts |
| 13:06.12 | Shirik|AFK | solely because of coh spam |
| 13:06.13 | nevcairiel | but not on general tank'n' spank fights |
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| 13:06.16 | bleeter | Cide: as a highschool teacher once told me "If you're going to fuck something up, at least fuck it up real good" ;) |
| 13:06.23 | Shirik|AFK | It'll be like |
| 13:06.30 | Shirik|AFK | Kimina: 50% of raid healing, 50% overheal |
| 13:06.41 | Shirik|AFK | actually that's an exaggeration |
| 13:06.46 | Shirik|AFK | it's usually closer to 40-40 |
| 13:06.48 | Cide | bleeter: yep. why exit with an error when you can segfault? |
| 13:06.59 | nevcairiel | anyway, with 2.4 mana regen improvements, and shadow priest nerfs, we'll probably remove one from the group in favor of some real dps |
| 13:07.02 | Cide | with an error code* |
| 13:07.05 | nevcairiel | so, no healer shadow priest anymore |
| 13:07.22 | Shirik|AFK | you're going to drop a priest? |
| 13:07.23 | Cide | what shadow priest nerfs? |
| 13:07.26 | bleeter | why segfault when you can take out the HAL? |
| 13:07.31 | Shirik|AFK | The ones who are getting the biggest benefit out of the mana regen improvements? |
| 13:07.47 | nevcairiel | ISB nerfs that impact shadow priests, whatever you call it =P |
| 13:07.57 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: shadow priests don't get much from spi regen |
| 13:08.01 | Shirik|AFK | ... |
| 13:08.02 | Cide | mages are superior in that regard |
| 13:08.06 | Shirik|AFK | holy priests |
| 13:08.10 | Cide | yeah |
| 13:08.10 | Shirik|AFK | Shadow priests can go diaf |
| 13:08.13 | Cide | but he said |
| 13:08.17 | Cide | we'll probably remove one from the group in favor of some real dps |
| 13:08.24 | Cide | ^ shadow priest |
| 13:08.25 | Shirik|AFK | I figured he meant a healer |
| 13:08.33 | Shirik|AFK | since that's what we were talking about >< |
| 13:08.38 | bleeter | anyways, i'm off to bed... good to hear/see you all again, take care :) |
| 13:08.42 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: once again |
| 13:08.46 | Cide | >>> SV.Cide > SV.Shirik |
| 13:08.46 | Cide | Cide: true |
| 13:08.49 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:09.06 | Shirik|AFK | >>> SV.Cide = -math.huge |
| 13:09.07 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: nil |
| 13:09.10 | nevcairiel | removing the shadow priest from the healer group is directly connected to the healer |
| 13:10.08 | nevcairiel | i usually hang around in the tank group anyway, so what do i care :D |
| 13:10.38 | Shirik|AFK | >>> SV.Shirik = setmetatable({}, {__metatable = "GTFO", __call = function() return math.huge end, __tostring = function() return tostring(math.huge) end, __lt = function() return false; end, __tonumber = function() return math.huge end}) |
| 13:10.38 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: nil |
| 13:10.48 | Shirik|AFK | >>> SV.Cide > SV.Shirik |
| 13:10.49 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: [string "return SV.Cide > SV.Shirik"]:1: attempt to compare table with nil |
| 13:10.56 | Cide | ha. |
| 13:11.02 | Shirik|AFK | >>> return SV.Cide |
| 13:11.02 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: nil |
| 13:11.07 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 13:11.07 | Shirik|AFK | ha, you're nothing now! |
| 13:11.20 | Shirik|AFK | >>> return -math.huge |
| 13:11.21 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: -1.#INF |
| 13:11.28 | Shirik|AFK | >>> SV.Cide = -math.huge |
| 13:11.28 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: nil |
| 13:11.31 | art3mis | boobies! |
| 13:11.32 | Shirik|AFK | >>> return SV.Cide |
| 13:11.32 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: nil |
| 13:11.33 | art3mis | \o/ |
| 13:11.34 | Shirik|AFK | wtf? |
| 13:11.42 | Cide | I think you messed up the serialization |
| 13:11.45 | Shirik|AFK | I found a new bug with Cide! I win |
| 13:11.50 | Cide | nah |
| 13:11.56 | Cide | it's well established that the serialization sucks :P |
| 13:12.01 | Shirik|AFK | ha |
| 13:12.07 | Shirik|AFK | wait |
| 13:12.11 | Shirik|AFK | you don't serialize metatables do you :< |
| 13:12.18 | Cide | no |
| 13:12.19 | Shirik|AFK | >>> return getmetatable(SV.Shirik) |
| 13:12.19 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: nil |
| 13:12.20 | Shirik|AFK | =( |
| 13:12.24 | Shirik|AFK | I did all that work for nothing?! |
| 13:12.29 | Cide | yes |
| 13:12.32 | Cide | which proves that me > you |
| 13:12.34 | Cide | once again |
| 13:12.53 | Shirik|AFK | >>> return "Cide" > "Shirik" |
| 13:12.54 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: false |
| 13:12.57 | Shirik|AFK | hrm |
| 13:13.11 | Shirik|AFK | wtf |
| 13:13.15 | Shirik|AFK | I was sitting on a resistor |
| 13:13.19 | Shirik|AFK | jabbed me in the butt |
| 13:13.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:13.23 | Cide | ha |
| 13:13.26 | Cide | resist that! |
| 13:13.28 | Shirik|AFK | wtf was that doing in my pocket |
| 13:13.44 | Shirik|AFK | 10kohm |
| 13:13.52 | Shirik|AFK | it's very sad that I can recognize this in half a second... |
| 13:13.59 | Cide | yes |
| 13:14.06 | art3mis | im more concerned with how you didnt notice being "jammed in the butt" until now |
| 13:14.16 | Shirik|AFK | well I just sat on it now |
| 13:14.22 | Shirik|AFK | I was kinda angled to the left a bit |
| 13:14.24 | art3mis | quick shirik recite the neumonic! |
| 13:14.36 | Shirik|AFK | what mnemonic? |
| 13:14.44 | art3mis | forthe colour order of resistors |
| 13:14.48 | Shirik|AFK | I just have them memorized. Black brown red, then the colors of the rainbow |
| 13:14.51 | Shirik|AFK | ROYGBIV |
| 13:15.08 | Shirik|AFK | (And the last one's grey) |
| 13:15.21 | Shirik|AFK | and besides, it's like from the matrix |
| 13:15.25 | Shirik|AFK | I don't even see the code anymore |
| 13:15.28 | Shirik|AFK | I just see "10kohm" |
| 13:15.38 | Shirik|AFK | it's kinda scary |
| 13:15.42 | art3mis | "Big Boys Race Our Young Girls, But Violet Generally Wins." |
| 13:15.46 | Shirik|AFK | wtf? |
| 13:15.49 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 13:15.52 | Shirik|AFK | And it's not white, it's grey |
| 13:16.07 | Shirik|AFK | oh |
| 13:16.09 | Shirik|AFK | I missed Generally |
| 13:16.10 | Shirik|AFK | heh |
| 13:16.25 | art3mis | Big Bears Run Over Your Gladiola Bed Vexing Garden Worms (go see now) |
| 13:16.35 | Shirik|AFK | wtf |
| 13:16.39 | Shirik|AFK | who taught you to act like this |
| 13:16.59 | Shirik|AFK | I believe I hear someone calling you |
| 13:17.01 | art3mis | laugh |
| 13:17.03 | Shirik|AFK | good fortune |
| 13:17.06 | art3mis | actually theres' quite a few |
| 13:17.16 | Shirik|AFK | the naaru have not forgotten us |
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| 13:17.50 | Shirik|AFK | anyway yeah, I never bothered with that |
| 13:18.01 | Shirik|AFK | and I've done so much sifting through boxes upon boxes of resistors that I don't even need to know it anymore |
| 13:18.03 | Shirik|AFK | I just know |
| 13:18.12 | art3mis | http://www.tineleyspice.org/more.php?id=A891_0_1_0_M |
| 13:19.18 | art3mis | oh i hear a capasitor described funny the otherday |
| 13:20.03 | art3mis | "it looks like a battery cell stack with a plus sign on top, they're all kind of bulging and dark on top is this normal?" |
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| 13:20.08 | art3mis | capcitor |
| 13:21.22 | Shirik|AFK | capacitor |
| 13:21.32 | Shirik | rofl that's a good description |
| 13:22.01 | Shirik | still |
| 13:22.06 | Shirik | nothing beats the capacitor we blew up yesterday |
| 13:22.14 | Shirik | rated for 50V, 100mF |
| 13:22.25 | Shirik | we were sure to put a glass case around it first though |
| 13:23.32 | art3mis | im almost done my 560e thinkpad to sexy digital picture frame project |
| 13:23.41 | art3mis | cuz im bored ;P |
| 13:25.15 | Shirik | ok I'm going to get a few hours of sleep |
| 13:25.16 | Shirik | take care |
| 13:30.30 | Cide | ok, I suck at c |
| 13:30.42 | Shirik|zZz | ooh |
| 13:30.48 | Shirik|zZz | I am the opposite at C |
| 13:30.52 | Shirik|zZz | what do you need :D |
| 13:31.09 | Cide | I need to figure out the svn api :P |
| 13:31.10 | art3mis | i think "few" implies more than 1 shirik ;P |
| 13:31.28 | Shirik|zZz | meh |
| 13:31.30 | JoshBorke | or less than one as the case may be |
| 13:31.37 | art3mis | ~1 |
| 13:31.38 | purl | 1 is a number, silly |
| 13:31.39 | art3mis | ;) |
| 13:31.52 | Cide | pastey is slow |
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| 13:32.12 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: http://pastebin.ca/918917 |
| 13:32.18 | Shirik|zZz | one is the loneliest number that you'll ever see |
| 13:32.20 | Cide | that's part of a struct |
| 13:32.28 | Cide | what the fuck does that even do? |
| 13:32.31 | Shirik|zZz | two is just as bad as one, it's the lonliest number since the number one |
| 13:32.32 | Shirik|zZz | yeah |
| 13:32.41 | Shirik|zZz | wow rofl |
| 13:32.41 | Shirik|zZz | ok |
| 13:32.46 | Shirik|zZz | it's a pointer to a function |
| 13:32.56 | Cide | ok, so I need to set a function |
| 13:32.57 | Shirik|zZz | the function returns a pointer to a svn_error_t |
| 13:33.03 | Shirik|zZz | and takes all those ugly parameters |
| 13:33.25 | Cide | interesting |
| 13:33.37 | Shirik|zZz | the name of the variable is first_credentials |
| 13:33.51 | Shirik|zZz | and you can set it to any function assuming it returns a svn_error_t* and takes all of those parameters |
| 13:33.52 | Cide | I wonder how the hell I'm supposed to set that in python |
| 13:33.55 | nevcairiel | function pointers are a bitch when you're new to C |
| 13:34.08 | JoshBorke | don't they have python wrappers? |
| 13:34.12 | JoshBorke | or is that just perl? |
| 13:34.20 | Cide | JoshBorke: they do |
| 13:34.26 | Cide | but they're not exactly well documented |
| 13:34.29 | Shirik|zZz | wtf is the point of a void** |
| 13:34.40 | Shirik|zZz | might as well be void* |
| 13:34.44 | Shirik|zZz | whatever :P |
| 13:34.51 | Shirik|zZz | void pointers are evil in their own right |
| 13:34.57 | nevcairiel | maybe they need to modify a pointer *shrug |
| 13:35.08 | Shirik|zZz | void* can be cast to void** :P |
| 13:35.11 | Cide | what does *shrug point to? |
| 13:35.22 | JoshBorke | i see no shrug |
| 13:35.32 | Shirik|zZz | must be NULL then, JoshBorke |
| 13:35.39 | JoshBorke | must be |
| 13:35.40 | Shirik|zZz | be careful, nevcairiel might segfault |
| 13:35.49 | JoshBorke | as long as he doesn't core dump |
| 13:35.54 | nevcairiel | i'm segfault safe |
| 13:36.03 | Cide | http://pastey.net/82963 is the full struct |
| 13:36.18 | Cide | I'm scared |
| 13:36.18 | JoshBorke | wtb more sc2 information |
| 13:36.28 | Shirik|zZz | at least they have documentation |
| 13:36.39 | Shirik|zZz | Cide, have you ever coded for Windows in C? |
| 13:36.48 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: no, but I have in c++ |
| 13:36.55 | Cide | I was even more scared then |
| 13:36.55 | Shirik|zZz | It's the coolest way to code, really. Let me summarize it for you. |
| 13:36.59 | Cide | maybe it's the same api |
| 13:37.07 | Shirik|zZz | Create a structure |
| 13:37.15 | Shirik|zZz | Fill out all of the parameters, all 20 of them. |
| 13:37.33 | Shirik|zZz | Keep in mind that 15 of those are either "reserved" or "not used" but you have to set them to specific values anyway |
| 13:37.54 | Shirik|zZz | Fill out the "sizeof" parameter because Microsoft can't call sizeof() on their own for whatever reason |
| 13:38.06 | JoshBorke | all i read is "blah blah blah, i'm whining, blah blah blah" |
| 13:38.12 | Shirik|zZz | Pass the structure to the function that you thought was so simple initially because it only took one parameter |
| 13:38.16 | Shirik|zZz | Check GetLastError, and you're done |
| 13:38.23 | Shirik|zZz | That's windows programming in 5 easy steps |
| 13:38.28 | Shirik|zZz | you just do that over and over again |
| 13:38.39 | Cide | sounds fun |
| 13:38.40 | art3mis | what about the bus? |
| 13:38.56 | Shirik|zZz | By far, the one thing that I still haven't been able to figure out in the MSDN is this |
| 13:39.08 | Shirik|zZz | and yes, I use this function a lot |
| 13:40.25 | Cide | meh |
| 13:40.33 | Cide | ok so I need to provide a function with those parameters |
| 13:40.49 | Cide | but I don't think I can do that through python unless svn provides such a function |
| 13:41.01 | Cide | TypeError: argument number 2: a 'svn_error_t *(*)(void **,void **,void *,apr_hash_t *,char const *,apr_pool_t *)' is expected, 'function(<function foo at 0x01A34AF0>)' is received |
| 13:41.14 | Shirik|zZz | fBinary: If this member is TRUE, binary mode is enabled. Windows does not support nonbinary mode transfers, so this member must be TRUE. |
| 13:41.30 | Shirik|zZz | wtf is the point of that |
| 13:41.33 | Shirik|zZz | seriously |
| 13:41.59 | Shirik|zZz | part of the lovely DCB structure with something around 30 elements in it http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363214.aspx |
| 13:45.51 | Shirik|zZz | here |
| 13:45.54 | Shirik|zZz | isn't it beautiful? http://wowi.pastey.net/82964 |
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| 13:46.11 | Shirik|zZz | "No flow control part 9" "Useless parameter #4" |
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| 13:47.55 | foxlit | PLAYER_TARGET is a valid event, right? |
| 13:48.31 | nevcairiel | PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 13:48.31 | Shirik|zZz | isn't it PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED? |
| 13:48.33 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 13:48.39 | foxlit | it is |
| 13:49.04 | Shirik|zZz | Cide: If you want to be really bad |
| 13:49.07 | Shirik|zZz | you can forcibly cast it |
| 13:49.15 | Shirik|zZz | But that could cause segfaults unless you REALLY know what you're doing |
| 13:49.33 | Shirik|zZz | I do that occasionally with function pointers though because I know they're right and I don't feel like figuring out what minor detail I have to cast |
| 13:49.38 | nevcairiel | reinterpret cast a int on it or so =) |
| 13:49.51 | Shirik|zZz | reinterpret_cast is c++ :P |
| 13:49.56 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 13:49.58 | nevcairiel | right that was C |
| 13:50.12 | Shirik|zZz | also |
| 13:50.24 | Shirik|zZz | I actually found a use for reinterpret_cast the other day |
| 13:50.25 | Shirik|zZz | lol |
| 13:50.38 | Shirik|zZz | someone looked at my code and was like "wtf is this and why is it highlighted like a keyword?" |
| 13:50.57 | Shirik|zZz | ok I think my brain cells are shutting down |
| 13:50.59 | Shirik|zZz | time for sleep |
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| 14:34.44 | malreth | http://www.catandgirl.com/index.php |
| 14:36.24 | malreth | and this one speaks truth: http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive/1957 |
| 14:36.39 | malreth | soufron: where'd you come from? |
| 14:37.08 | foxlit | <FontHeight val="11"/> |
| 14:37.14 | foxlit | Am I doing that wrong? |
| 14:37.22 | malreth | soufron: were you followed? |
| 14:39.31 | |pez| | I don't think my brain agrees that fighting with my alarmclock for 3 hours is a good idea.. |
| 14:40.25 | malreth | foxlit: <FontHeight> <AbsValue val="15"/> </FontHeight> |
| 14:40.48 | nevcairiel | hmm damn you oracle, now i am not sure anymore if i can can do that in mysql |
| 14:40.50 | malreth | yours isn't well-formed |
| 14:40.52 | foxlit | malreth: I was counting on those to be autocollapsable like <Offset>, but |
| 14:40.57 | foxlit | Either form doesn't seem to work |
| 14:41.16 | Cide | whoo |
| 14:41.17 | foxlit | Using <FontHeight><AbsValue val="11"/></FontHeight> inside a <FontString> at the moment |
| 14:41.20 | Cide | figured out authentication |
| 14:41.33 | malreth | also, the .xsd specifies that it doesn't like you |
| 14:41.47 | foxlit | The general idea is that it should override the size of the font it inherits from |
| 14:42.57 | malreth | that wouldn't work... well, it shouldn't |
| 14:43.04 | malreth | since FontStrong derives from LayoutFrame |
| 14:43.22 | malreth | the FontHeight tag is only valid in Font objects |
| 14:43.44 | foxlit | "The following LayeredRegion Derivatives also inherit all of the functions of the FontInstance type: FontString" |
| 14:43.58 | foxlit | Although that might relate more to lua |
| 14:44.15 | foxlit | But stuff like <Color> works, for example |
| 14:45.21 | malreth | FontString itself has Color as an element |
| 14:45.29 | malreth | ah... |
| 14:45.38 | malreth | but it also has FontHeight as an element, too |
| 14:45.44 | malreth | so yes, it should work. |
| 14:45.55 | nevcairiel | anyone good with mysql? |
| 14:46.04 | malreth | nevcairiel: what color SQL is it? |
| 14:46.10 | malreth | i only know green |
| 14:46.20 | nevcairiel | wtf :P |
| 14:47.03 | nevcairiel | anyway, i have the following query, http://ace.pastey.net/82966 .. and i want to avoid the subquery, i tried using the aggregate directly, i know i can do it in Oracle .. but been too long for mysql <.< |
| 14:50.25 | malreth | grr... i can't find the dilbert comic |
| 14:50.30 | Legorol | Cide: what do you mean? |
| 14:50.43 | malreth | it's the one where PHB says he wants a relational database |
| 14:50.55 | Cide | Legorol: mean with what? |
| 14:51.02 | Legorol | [14:41] <Cide> whoo |
| 14:51.03 | malreth | dilbert, figuring that the PHB doesn't know what he's asking about asks him what color SQL he wants |
| 14:51.06 | Legorol | [14:41] <Cide> figured out authentication |
| 14:51.08 | Legorol | is that the PTR? |
| 14:51.09 | Cide | Legorol: oh |
| 14:51.13 | malreth | PHB replies, "Mauve has the most RAM" |
| 14:51.28 | Cide | Legorol: no, I'm trying to figure out how to authenticate to SVN servers using the SVN api |
| 14:51.35 | Legorol | aah ok nvm me then |
| 14:51.46 | Legorol | EU PTRs were having auth problems all day, i thought it related to that |
| 14:51.47 | Legorol | my bad |
| 14:52.19 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/82967 |
| 14:52.22 | foxlit | Doesn't work :( |
| 14:52.30 | foxlit | Ends up with a size 11 fontstring, not size 37 |
| 14:53.24 | foxlit | hrm, or 12 |
| 14:58.08 | Maldivia | think that's expected bahaviour |
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| 14:59.14 | foxlit | It's not logical |
| 14:59.22 | foxlit | It's not coherent with other font attributes, either |
| 15:00.20 | foxlit | Question: the default fonts, such as GameFontNormal, are declared as virtual |
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| 15:00.36 | foxlit | but you can still access them as globals? |
| 15:00.44 | Maldivia | if inheriting from a fontobject, then you have to change the font to update the size |
| 15:00.45 | malreth | ZoneText.xml on line 99 uses a <FontHeight> element in a <FontString> |
| 15:01.16 | malreth | but i can't find its use anywhere else in Blizzard's UI except for in Fonts.xml |
| 15:01.33 | foxlit | Haha |
| 15:01.38 | foxlit | And, ironically, it doesn't work |
| 15:01.47 | foxlit | Auto follow note isn't in size 20 |
| 15:02.17 | malreth | so it could be a bug, then |
| 15:02.29 | foxlit | Maldivia: but supposing I wanted to keep the same font? |
| 15:02.36 | malreth | and since it's only used in one place in Blizzard's UI, they just haven't noticed |
| 15:02.44 | Maldivia | <OnLoad>this:SetFont(GameFontNormal:GetFont(), 20)</OnLoad> |
| 15:03.09 | foxlit | (but you're right, <FontString inherits=".+" font=".+" allows FontHeight to take effect |
| 15:03.32 | foxlit | btw |
| 15:03.45 | foxlit | <FontHeight val="57"/> is just as valid as the nested <AbsValue/> structure |
| 15:04.01 | malreth | reading .xsd makes me crosseyed |
| 15:04.05 | Maldivia | FontObjects locks both font and size, which is the reason you have to specify both to override |
| 15:04.19 | Maldivia | (and extra attributes aswell) |
| 15:04.38 | foxlit | Essentially, I need to create a new FontObject |
| 15:04.44 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 15:04.51 | foxlit | Which kind of defeats the purpose :( |
| 15:05.16 | Maldivia | the only thing you can change by inheriting from a font object, is the color |
| 15:05.19 | foxlit | Since then changes to the old font object would not be reflected in the new one |
| 15:05.47 | Maldivia | there was a lot of discussions about this when FontObjects were introduced |
| 15:05.50 | break19 | lol.. where's the car? http://www.bigducky.com/4images/details.php?image_id=218 - also.. for sale: http://www.bigducky.com/4images/details.php?image_id=131 |
| 15:06.34 | foxlit | Do I need to make <Font>s virtual, btw? |
| 15:06.57 | foxlit | seems to work either way |
| 15:07.33 | Maldivia | Fonts are weird, as they always appear both virtual and not virtual :) |
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| 15:13.23 | malreth | i was going to buy pocket wizards... but i might wait for these to come out |
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| 15:15.55 | malreth | ooh.. and new macbookpros today |
| 15:16.04 | sioraiocht | orly? |
| 15:16.10 | sioraiocht | anything good? |
| 15:16.27 | |pez| | new macbookpros? :o |
| 15:16.35 | malreth | penryn procs, bigger HDs, 2gb RAM standard, and multitouch pads |
| 15:16.39 | sioraiocht | nice |
| 15:16.45 | sioraiocht | 2gb RAM has been standard for w hile |
| 15:16.46 | malreth | new nvidia video |
| 15:16.50 | sioraiocht | yeah |
| 15:16.50 | sioraiocht | wow |
| 15:16.53 | sioraiocht | NICE video |
| 15:17.10 | |pez| | neat |
| 15:17.15 | sioraiocht | Why can you be more like those MBPs? |
| 15:17.22 | sioraiocht | s/can/can't |
| 15:17.35 | |pez| | I'd like a macbook pro really. |
| 15:17.50 | sioraiocht | |pez|: mine has been awesome |
| 15:17.54 | malreth | new macbooks, too... |
| 15:18.35 | |pez| | I'm not actually sure what I'd *use* mine for. |
| 15:18.42 | |pez| | but it looks awesome... |
| 15:18.44 | sioraiocht | hehehe |
| 15:19.15 | |pez| | Ohwell, I'm getting a newold computer soon. |
| 15:19.18 | |pez| | desktop type |
| 15:19.26 | |pez| | I can save up for a macbook pro in the meantime. |
| 15:19.39 | |pez| | while I use that. |
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| 15:21.38 | art3mis | meh i hate losing laptop drives |
| 15:22.13 | art3mis | apeparantly too seagate and toshiba both have 7200rpm 2.5" sata drives out now |
| 15:22.27 | malreth | time to go to my supervisor and say, "macbookpro... GIEF!" |
| 15:22.49 | |pez| | malreth: can you say you need two, and ship one my way? |
| 15:23.10 | malreth | |pez|: you'd have to agree to work for me, first |
| 15:23.23 | malreth | how good are you at unpacking computer boxes? |
| 15:23.39 | |pez| | I'm awesome at that! |
| 15:23.45 | malreth | s/ing c/ing 75 c/ |
| 15:24.01 | |pez| | like, cardboard ones? |
| 15:24.04 | malreth | yah |
| 15:24.11 | |pez| | I love opening boxes. |
| 15:24.18 | |pez| | boxes are fun |
| 15:24.21 | malreth | the kind that dry out and cut your hands after the first 12 |
| 15:24.30 | |pez| | more fun if they're actually mine. |
| 15:24.32 | malreth | and fill the air with particulate matter and dust |
| 15:24.41 | malreth | and dry your sinuses and make your nose blead |
| 15:24.43 | malreth | bleed |
| 15:24.44 | Keias | I used to play in boxes as a little kid |
| 15:24.46 | Keias | It was awesome. |
| 15:25.03 | malreth | |pez|: are you immune to cancer? |
| 15:25.04 | |pez| | malreth: if it'd get me a macbook pro, surething XD |
| 15:25.21 | |pez| | malreth: probably not. :\ |
| 15:25.53 | |pez| | Don't you have any other jobs for me? |
| 15:26.06 | |pez| | I could... massage you and get you coffee whenever? |
| 15:26.41 | malreth | |pez|: how are your barista skills? can you pull a ristretto espresso? |
| 15:27.01 | |pez| | No clue what it is. |
| 15:27.04 | |pez| | but I learn fast! |
| 15:27.31 | malreth | |pez|: well, we'll keep your resume on fire-- UH, i mean file |
| 15:27.38 | malreth | thanks for coming in |
| 15:27.44 | malreth | don't call us, we'll call you |
| 15:27.58 | |pez| | Ok! .. that doesn't sound good ^^;; |
| 15:29.32 | sioraiocht | ? |
| 15:29.55 | |pez| | malreth does not plan on hiring me so I can get a macbook pro XD |
| 15:30.05 | |pez| | So... I'll go make use of myself, and wash the dishes. |
| 15:30.19 | Keias | Steal one |
| 15:30.26 | Keias | Thats always the answer! |
| 15:30.31 | malreth | I'm sorry, but I cannot comment on the hiring process. |
| 15:32.33 | malreth | i find it funny that the MacBookPros come with more video RAM than the iMacs |
| 15:34.11 | Keias | You can't be too surprised by that, considering how iMacs have always been. |
| 15:34.17 | malreth | oooh.... today's awesome video: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/25/wind-turbine-self-de.html |
| 15:37.30 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.01 | Fisker- | more like last weeks awesome video Maldivia |
| 15:41.03 | Fisker- | malreth |
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| 15:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, win |
| 15:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.savagechickens.com/blog/2008/02/magical-place.html |
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| 15:51.36 | break19 | I still like the for sale pic. |
| 15:51.52 | break19 | For Sale! http://www.bigducky.com/4images/details.php?image_id=131 |
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| 15:56.14 | Esine | ok so |
| 15:56.20 | Esine | which one is for sale? the girl or the car? |
| 15:56.30 | Esine | because the description really fits both |
| 15:56.35 | Esine | :> |
| 15:57.40 | Esine | oh wait :[ *woosh* |
| 16:02.08 | |Pixel| | ... |
| 16:02.10 | |Pixel| | /clap |
| 16:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
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| 16:04.23 | art3mis | http://blowingsmokethemovie.com/images/lolsecretz.jpg |
| 16:04.49 | Keias | Thats my headset. Damn thieving cat. |
| 16:05.04 | art3mis | but he needs it to criez! |
| 16:08.38 | art3mis | http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/tfd-archives/tfdarchive-nov04.php |
| 16:09.22 | ralfWORK_ | he has a sad :( |
| 16:10.05 | art3mis | then i realized i invented corrugated cardboard, great job dude |
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| 16:15.23 | art3mis | Seedless Bacon.... Finally I can eat bacon withouthavign to spit out the seeds! |
| 16:19.28 | ralfWORK_ | lolwut? |
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| 16:22.31 | art3mis | http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/010108/made-of-zip-disks.gif |
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| 16:23.05 | Gahru | Morning |
| 16:23.14 | art3mis | hi spanky |
| 16:23.18 | Gahru | :D |
| 16:23.42 | Gahru | question, a mod ive seen on videos, it flashes an icon on the screen when that ability is ready, anyone know what thats called? |
| 16:24.01 | malreth|ghost | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.02 | art3mis | cooldowncount or something |
| 16:25.02 | malreth|ghost | outdated, but most likely still works |
| 16:25.03 | malreth|ghost | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4511-JIMsCooldownPulse.html |
| 16:25.31 | malreth|ghost | Total protonic reversal! |
| 16:25.43 | Gahru | thats the one malreth thanks |
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| 16:27.40 | ralfWORK_ | hmm. that looks interesting |
| 16:27.52 | ralfWORK_ | only thing is... well... |
| 16:28.00 | ralfWORK_ | it'd also have to track when dots are off |
| 16:28.34 | ralfWORK_ | hmm or maybe not |
| 16:29.04 | Gahru | so no patch 2.4 today? |
| 16:29.09 | ralfWORK_ | hah doubt it |
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| 16:29.20 | ralfWORK_ | last I heard the PTR was still busted |
| 16:32.02 | Valaron|Work | Fixed X services |
| 16:32.04 | Valaron|Work | Whew |
| 16:32.52 | Gahru | well good, hopefully they can get the servers back up soon, cause im bored... lol |
| 16:32.57 | Gahru | 2pm :( |
| 16:33.00 | ralfWORK_ | lol |
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| 16:43.01 | ralfWORK_ | doh! that explains why the armory is fucking up today |
| 16:43.04 | ralfWORK_ | always forget that |
| 16:48.22 | TecnoBrat | ralfWORK_, what does, the fact that its the armory? |
| 16:48.35 | ralfWORK_ | heh |
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| 16:56.32 | Legorol | any other EU players having trouble logging on to PTR or know what the reason is? |
| 16:56.44 | Legorol | by having trouble I mean: my password is claimed invalid |
| 16:56.46 | nevcairiel | i dont think anyone can connect to EU PTR |
| 16:56.52 | Legorol | ok |
| 16:56.57 | Legorol | i thought it's only a few people |
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| 16:57.12 | Legorol | i'm hoping this is a sign that they are working on the US-EU-Korean cross-PTRs |
| 16:57.25 | Legorol | and working out the kinks in authentication as a result |
| 16:57.25 | nevcairiel | i dont really care about that |
| 16:57.32 | Legorol | but it might just be a random messup ^^ |
| 16:57.39 | Legorol | nevcairiel: are you EU? |
| 16:57.42 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 16:57.52 | nevcairiel | but what would i want on the US or Asian PTRs |
| 16:58.34 | Legorol | i'm hoping that the point about Blizzard testing the US/EU/Korean mixed PTR is because they are secretly trying out potential techniques for cross-region play |
| 16:58.54 | Falcon213 | but they don't even have cross-server play |
| 16:59.04 | Legorol | we are not talking cross-server |
| 16:59.10 | Legorol | we are talking being able to login cross-region |
| 16:59.16 | Legorol | very different thing |
| 16:59.27 | Legorol | eg. if i could roll a character on US realms with my EU account |
| 16:59.33 | Legorol | and/or migrate |
| 16:59.43 | Falcon213 | oh |
| 17:00.18 | Legorol | the way the announcement was put about the cross-region PTRs, I understood it as "when you login with your account, you will have access to all the PTR realms" |
| 17:00.29 | Legorol | which would pave the way to the kind of cross-region play i was referring to |
| 17:01.40 | Legorol | but i might just be hoping too much :) |
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| 17:03.43 | Esamynn|Work | Hola n00bs and n00betts! 8) |
| 17:04.02 | ralfWORK_ | HALLO THAR Esamynn|Work |
| 17:07.55 | Esamynn|Work | ok, who let ralf out of his cage again???!! |
| 17:08.03 | ralfWORK_ | k sorry :( |
| 17:08.22 | Esamynn|Work | ~poke ralfWORK_ |
| 17:08.22 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ralfWORK_, pokes ralfWORK_ repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 17:47.01 | foxlit | oops |
| 17:47.22 | foxlit | tex:SetTexture(1,2,3); tex:GetTexture() == "Solid Texture" |
| 17:47.59 | zenzelezz | what about it? |
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| 17:48.12 | foxlit | I was kind of relying on that to store the three colors |
| 17:48.23 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 17:49.20 | Cide | foxlit: :SetTexture(1, 1, 1) :SetVertexTexture() :GetVertexTexture() |
| 17:49.34 | foxlit | VertexColor, surely? |
| 17:49.37 | Cide | err |
| 17:49.38 | Cide | yeah |
| 17:50.09 | zenzelezz | an empty SetVertexColor call? |
| 17:50.25 | Cide | no... |
| 17:50.36 | Cide | use :SetVertexColor() instead of :SetTexture() |
| 17:50.58 | Cide | and then you can retrieve it with :GetVertexColor() |
| 17:51.04 | Atriace | Cide is right. |
| 17:51.12 | Cide | Atriace: I already told you |
| 17:51.14 | Cide | I'm always right |
| 17:51.21 | zenzelezz | I'm not arguing that, I was just trying to figure it out; but I see it now |
| 17:51.23 | Atriace | That was last week. :p |
| 17:51.40 | foxlit | np, I was just counting on it to work the other way as well |
| 17:51.44 | foxlit | Trivial to fix |
| 17:52.33 | Atriace | Actually... I was using :SetTexture() and noticed it drops real frames when the operation is called. I wish I knew why. |
| 17:53.14 | Cide | it's fairly expensive |
| 17:53.53 | foxlit | lacking optimization, then |
| 17:54.06 | Atriace | As in, it re-retrieves the texture data, loading it into memory? |
| 17:54.28 | Atriace | rather than just storing it in memory and swapping the reference. |
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| 17:56.17 | malreth | http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-02-07/bandais-bubble-wrap-popping-keychain-now-with-moe |
| 17:56.39 | malreth | japan is a wonderful place |
| 17:57.07 | Maldivia | Atriace: if a texture is no longer referenced anywhere, it's purged from memory cache |
| 17:57.39 | Maldivia | Atriace: every single texture can't be stored in memory all the time :) |
| 17:58.42 | Atriace | Sigh... c'est la vie. |
| 17:59.20 | Maldivia | Atriace: just keep an off-screen reference to it, then it won't be purged, if you're swapping between two textures constantl |
| 18:01.21 | Cide | or use two Texture objects and :Show()/:Hide() |
| 18:01.38 | malreth | Cide's method is probably better |
| 18:02.27 | Atriace | That one actually occured to me, but then I realized I was scaling my texture down from its original size anyway, so i just cropped it, and kepted more data on the single texture. |
| 18:02.40 | malreth | kepted? |
| 18:02.45 | Atriace | kepted isn't word. >_< |
| 18:02.52 | malreth | it is now |
| 18:02.57 | Atriace | lol |
| 18:03.17 | Atriace | I don't like verbing words. |
| 18:04.02 | malreth | i prefer nouning verbs |
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| 18:15.03 | Lunessa | ... station |
| 18:16.21 | malreth | WTF! I just lost $16! You had negative monies in there?! |
| 18:17.14 | Lunessa | A wormhole, I has it. |
| 18:17.28 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 18:17.35 | Lopeppeppy | Not something I'd admit in public. |
| 18:17.51 | Lunessa | It leads monies to my bank account. RAWR |
| 18:18.09 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
| 18:18.19 | Lopeppeppy | Not something I'd admit in public.... |
| 18:19.07 | Lunessa | I have a problem with over-sharing. |
| 18:19.30 | Atriace | Anybody here with mastery of tables who wouldn't mind helping me with a fairly specific issue? |
| 18:19.46 | Lunessa | Umm, I'm not the guy to ask about tables. |
| 18:19.52 | dylanm | Pose the question. |
| 18:20.20 | dylanm | Before someone does ~asktoask and I enrage. |
| 18:20.47 | nevcairiel | ~asktoask |
| 18:20.48 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:20.54 | nevcairiel | just to see dylanm enrage |
| 18:21.08 | zenzelezz | this feels unusual... spent $2300 on something that wasn't computer parts, yet I don't feel wrong about it o_O |
| 18:21.18 | nevcairiel | hookers? |
| 18:21.38 | zenzelezz | too expensive |
| 18:21.48 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: So, this one, she's not inflatable? |
| 18:22.15 | zenzelezz | I have neither inflatable or non-inflatable; just visiting |
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| 18:23.32 | Esamynn|Work | Atriace: ask the people said, ask your question |
| 18:24.29 | Atriace | wow, flood of text. |
| 18:24.34 | Atriace | I took it to private chat. |
| 18:24.37 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Plane tickets? Good man. |
| 18:25.25 | zenzelezz | don't know about the last part, but yes, plane tickets |
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| 18:28.47 | Shirik|Ecole | wheee |
| 18:28.52 | Shirik|Ecole | my bot passed inspection |
| 18:35.07 | foxlit | Shirik, the question is |
| 18:35.12 | foxlit | Have you finished coding |
| 18:35.27 | foxlit | void getOutOfControlAndTryToTakeOverTheWorld(boolean violently) // ? |
| 18:36.38 | Lunessa | that function can be called by it's defined name, "Brain" |
| 18:39.19 | Lopeppeppy | Whuzza brain? |
| 18:39.37 | Maldivia | foxlit: he finished it, but when he tried to use it, the program keept crashing with a Pure Virtual Function Call exception |
| 18:40.11 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. I can't log out of my WoW game. Server is completely borked! |
| 18:40.28 | foxlit | keeel! |
| 18:40.54 | Lopeppeppy | Copying my Saved Variables before I force-kil. |
| 18:41.28 | Maldivia | tried /run SendChatMessage("\n") ? |
| 18:41.40 | MentalPower | Atriace: for futire reference, its best if you post the question in the channel, that way more than one person can look at it and answer. If the question requires referencing code, use http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 18:41.48 | Atriace | I'm really hating politeness, formality, and consideration of others at this moment as it's paralyzing me from asking what I really want to ask. And rather than duck the issue and outright ask, I feel compelled to write something so self-depricating as this wall of text to explain myself. >_< |
| 18:42.06 | Cide | Atriace: stfu. |
| 18:42.08 | Cide | sorry, I had to |
| 18:42.13 | Atriace | Thanks, I would to. |
| 18:42.35 | MentalPower | just ask |
| 18:42.38 | MentalPower | srsly |
| 18:42.49 | kergoth | Maldivia: love that, i made that a /dc slash command for conveient logouts without the stupidass delay |
| 18:42.52 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:42.55 | Atriace | So, I already asked Nevcariel, and he's pointed me in the right direction. but here it goes: |
| 18:43.06 | Atriace | I'm trying to create a new profile in the Bartender3 DB and then load it. The following code (http://wowi.pastey.net/82952) does work to an extent, but it replaces the old database. I'm told by Nevcairiel that you need to index the keys so the defaults get created, before you set them. |
| 18:43.12 | foxlit | ALT+F4? |
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| 18:43.31 | Lopeppeppy | Prety much, foxlit. |
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| 18:44.00 | Atriace | I've been well enough on the rest of Lua, but I'm hitting my head trying to figure out how to manipulate tables. I seem to be rereading chapters in Pil cluelessly. |
| 18:44.07 | Maldivia | apparently, alt-f4 (or rather, the mac version thereof) doesn't save saved variables ? |
| 18:44.44 | foxlit | You're right; windows one doesn't either |
| 18:44.49 | foxlit | It's more or less a straight crash |
| 18:45.21 | foxlit | Erm, ColorPickerFrame and alpha? |
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| 18:45.23 | Maldivia | windows version of wow does save on alt-f4 |
| 18:45.31 | Lopeppeppy | Maldivia, sometimes force-quitting the game can bork my SV's, and I wasn't going to take the chance. |
| 18:45.33 | Saint-N | anyone here installed Entourage lately? |
| 18:45.35 | foxlit | I need to do something special to get that to display the slider? |
| 18:46.08 | foxlit | the microsoft mac email client? |
| 18:46.09 | Saint-N | and more importantly do you know that if you instlal the entourage standalone does it require an install code? |
| 18:46.11 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 18:46.18 | foxlit | Not a clue, use Mail |
| 18:46.29 | Saint-N | 1and1 used to give outlook2007 and entourage away with thier exchange service |
| 18:46.39 | Maldivia | foxlit: set .hasOpacity = true |
| 18:46.44 | Saint-N | I've got both but I don't remember seeing an entourage cdkey as it were |
| 18:47.10 | MentalPower | Atriace: index the keys before the defaults get created? |
| 18:47.18 | foxlit | Urgh, there goes my neat abstraction |
| 18:47.24 | Atriace | I quoted that part from Nev. |
| 18:47.26 | Shirik|zZz | 13:35:00) (foxlit) void getOutOfControlAndTryToTakeOverTheWorld(boolean violently) // ? |
| 18:47.32 | Shirik|zZz | No, it follows the three laws |
| 18:47.36 | Shirik|zZz | such a function wouldn't compile :) |
| 18:47.37 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: index the keys before the defaults get created? |
| 18:47.58 | foxlit | Shirik: but surely the premise of the movie version of "I, Robot" holds? |
| 18:47.59 | MentalPower | Shirik: who said that violated the three laws? |
| 18:48.02 | nevcairiel | I dont have time to explain how AceDB-2.0 works.. ^^ |
| 18:48.02 | Maldivia | Shirik: see my reference to "Pure Virtual Function Call" exception :) |
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| 18:48.33 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: I know how AceDB works, it does not store the defaults in the SV file, I'm just asking what you meant by that |
| 18:48.54 | Shirik | Maldivia: Surely that exception couldn't be thrown until it spawned more of itself |
| 18:49.03 | Saint-N | as a side note, no entrourage 2004 doesn't require a code |
| 18:49.04 | Shirik | once it has bots that inherit from it, then I could see that happening |
| 18:49.18 | MentalPower | or more exactly, it only stores whats in the table, excluding the metatable's (default's) contents |
| 18:49.21 | Shirik | foxlit: Unfortunately, one thing still bothers me about that movie |
| 18:49.28 | nevcairiel | its a ['*'] default, you need to index the key, and AceDB will create the subtable with the default values for you |
| 18:49.32 | Shirik | The bots decided to harm humans to protect them |
| 18:49.36 | Shirik | but the law didn't say to protect them |
| 18:49.39 | nevcairiel | you just cant assign a new table to it and expect it to work |
| 18:49.45 | Lunessa | saint-N - I have Entourage installed. |
| 18:49.46 | Shirik | it said bots are not allowed to place humans in danger |
| 18:49.54 | Shirik | they weren't doing the placing in danger |
| 18:49.58 | foxlit | "... or through inaction allow humans to come to harm" |
| 18:50.02 | foxlit | Works both ways |
| 18:50.09 | Shirik | oh was that part of it? |
| 18:50.12 | Shirik | I missed that |
| 18:50.20 | Shirik | now it all makes sense |
| 18:50.22 | foxlit | There actually was a story about that, too |
| 18:51.11 | Lunessa | Bah... for the real scoop read the damned novel. |
| 18:51.25 | foxlit | The damned novel isn't anywhere close to the movie :P |
| 18:52.21 | Shirik | I need to read the book |
| 18:52.27 | Shirik | (you were implying that it was a good book, yeah?) |
| 18:53.09 | foxlit | In particular, the story about meta interpretation of the first law is relegated to a relatively minor role |
| 18:53.42 | foxlit | It's not the worst thing you could ever read :) |
| 18:54.15 | foxlit | [btw, referring to the collection of short stories, not the I, Robot novel] |
| 18:54.26 | foxlit | s/novel/short story/ |
| 18:54.33 | nevcairiel | wow tortoisesvn is smart, i can auto-complete the function names in my php files when typing my commit log |
| 18:54.33 | nevcairiel | ftw. |
| 18:54.48 | Shirik | yeah |
| 18:54.51 | Shirik | tortoisesvn = <3 |
| 18:55.01 | kergoth | tortoise is a beast |
| 18:55.07 | kergoth | wtb a less bloaty version |
| 18:55.16 | Cide | ace it and be done with it |
| 18:55.18 | Fisker- | i threaten you with slavery and death! |
| 18:55.40 | Shirik | it's bloated? |
| 18:55.43 | Shirik | why would you say that |
| 18:55.59 | nevcairiel | sometimes it manages to kill explorer |
| 18:56.04 | nevcairiel | when tsvncache is hanging again |
| 18:56.08 | Cide | I don't really care about features like diff trees and stuff |
| 18:56.09 | Lunessa | I, Robot the "novel" is actually a collection of short stories, threaded together. Each story deals with robots and various interpretations of the 3 laws. |
| 18:56.45 | Lunessa | Shirik: Read it. It's very good. |
| 18:57.23 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.25 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.27 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.28 | MentalPower | After a while Azimov adds the "zeroth" law: |
| 18:57.30 | MentalPower | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.55 | Shirik | Law #1 should have been Law #0 anyway |
| 18:58.00 | Shirik | who codes 1-based |
| 18:58.01 | Shirik | seriously |
| 18:58.03 | Shirik | were they using lua? |
| 18:58.08 | MentalPower | yup |
| 18:58.49 | Fisker- | 1. Robots are not allowed to think for themselves |
| 18:58.59 | Fisker- | the game has been won |
| 18:59.28 | zenzelezz | you shall not make robots in the likeness of man |
| 18:59.28 | Lunessa | The books were written for non-scientists. The stories are good reads. Very much the classic 1950s and 1960s views of the bright and wonderful future. |
| 18:59.56 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind. |
| 19:00.09 | ralfWORK_ | hehehe |
| 19:00.10 | ralfWORK_ | exactly |
| 19:00.13 | batrick | why are you guys discussing irobot... |
| 19:00.24 | zenzelezz | Lunessa++ for remembering the correct wording |
| 19:00.24 | Fisker- | because then you have something to ask about |
| 19:01.30 | Cairenn|afk | Benumbed: ping? |
| 19:02.27 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.37 | Saint-N | heh that's the best quote for today |
| 19:03.01 | Saint-N | Lunessa: I was actually curious about the install wether it needed an install key, but appearantly it doesnt |
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| 19:03.22 | Lunessa | It doesn't. Office 2004 products didn't. |
| 19:03.47 | Saint-N | my mac install of office 2004 asks for it |
| 19:03.52 | Saint-N | its kinna wierd |
| 19:04.05 | ralfWORK_ | office for mac is kinda weird period |
| 19:04.11 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 19:05.00 | Esamynn|Work | MentalPower: yah, you can see where that first law Azimov created is flawed |
| 19:06.00 | MentalPower | they are all flawed in one way or another, they are by definition and design too ambiguous and full of abstractions to be practically useful |
| 19:06.14 | MentalPower | but then again, that was Asimov's intent |
| 19:06.18 | Esamynn|Work | heh |
| 19:07.07 | Lunessa | Yes, the "Positronic Brain" and allowing humaniform robots free will constrained by those laws made for good stories. |
| 19:07.09 | Esamynn|Work | I mean, a very basic example "injure" that would need to be far more explicitly defined |
| 19:10.14 | ralfWORK_ | I prefer the way the terminator was programmed instead |
| 19:10.27 | Esamynn|Work | meaning? |
| 19:10.38 | ralfWORK_ | when the terminator is told to not kill anyone |
| 19:10.45 | ralfWORK_ | he severely maims them instead |
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| 19:11.15 | Shirik | rofl |
| 19:11.22 | Shirik | I never saw any terminators so |
| 19:11.27 | ralfWORK_ | really? |
| 19:11.28 | ralfWORK_ | wow |
| 19:11.28 | TecnoBrat | tie them on a train track |
| 19:11.33 | ralfWORK_ | they are classic |
| 19:11.34 | TecnoBrat | then you don't kill them |
| 19:11.36 | TecnoBrat | the train does |
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| 19:12.24 | ralfWORK_ | sigh |
| 19:12.31 | ralfWORK_ | svn merging sucks when you're working with nubs |
| 19:12.37 | TecnoBrat | rofl, yes |
| 19:12.45 | Josh_Borke | s/when you're working with nubs// |
| 19:12.45 | Shirik | ,ej |
| 19:12.46 | Shirik | meh |
| 19:12.50 | Shirik | I ENJOY SVN merges |
| 19:12.52 | ralfWORK_ | lol |
| 19:12.55 | Shirik | it's all a game |
| 19:12.59 | Shirik | how many conflicts I can get in a merge |
| 19:13.03 | Shirik | one time I had 100% conflict |
| 19:13.03 | ralfWORK_ | I enjoy them too, when I'm the one doing it |
| 19:13.06 | Shirik | it was awesome |
| 19:13.07 | ralfWORK_ | wow |
| 19:13.19 | Shirik | we ... disagreed on an API |
| 19:13.20 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:13.22 | ralfWORK_ | was it a real conflict or just a retarded dos/unix newline thing? |
| 19:13.28 | Shirik | no it was a real conflict |
| 19:13.32 | ralfWORK_ | wow that's pretty good |
| 19:13.36 | Shirik | problem was |
| 19:13.45 | Shirik | we were both working on the same thing (bad idea) and disagreed on an API to use |
| 19:13.51 | ralfWORK_ | hhahahahahahaa |
| 19:13.52 | ralfWORK_ | FAIL |
| 19:13.59 | Shirik | well thing is |
| 19:14.08 | Shirik | he was developing the Linux version and I was developing the QNX version |
| 19:14.15 | Shirik | but it didn't like that too much |
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| 19:16.04 | Saint-N | speaking of terminator |
| 19:16.07 | Saint-N | they're making a new one |
| 19:16.10 | ralfWORK_ | oh? |
| 19:16.10 | Saint-N | with christian bale |
| 19:16.16 | ralfWORK_ | hah wow |
| 19:16.22 | Saint-N | he's gonna play john conner |
| 19:16.24 | ralfWORK_ | wonder how good it'll be |
| 19:16.34 | Saint-N | I believe its gonna be set after the humans lose ;P |
| 19:16.46 | Saint-N | it can't be worse than #3 ;P |
| 19:17.21 | Saint-N | and at least bale is pretty |
| 19:17.21 | ralfWORK_ | 2 was definitely the best one, imho |
| 19:17.21 | Saint-N | and as a side note |
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| 19:17.22 | |pez| | I don't remember any of them. |
| 19:17.22 | Saint-N | the terminator from #2 is gonna be in the tv series I think |
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| 19:17.30 | Saint-N | which is awesome cuz he's a great terminator |
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| 19:19.00 | Lunessa | grrr... NoScript+Firefox 2.x = lock up. |
| 19:19.18 | zenzelezz | works fine for me |
| 19:19.52 | ralfWORK_ | getting back to SVN merging |
| 19:20.01 | ralfWORK_ | what REALLY sucks is this nub didn't document what revs he was merging |
| 19:20.10 | ralfWORK_ | so I have no goddamn clue how he broke it |
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| 19:35.26 | Shirik | ralfWORK_: You know what I do in those situations? |
| 19:35.42 | ralfWORK_ | does it involve heavy weaponry? |
| 19:36.05 | Shirik | revert server, commit my copy, send email to "nub" stating "I undid your commit because it breaks everything. Have fun merging." |
| 19:36.23 | ralfWORK_ | oh yea well |
| 19:36.28 | ralfWORK_ | thing is |
| 19:36.34 | ralfWORK_ | everyone I work with is scared of SVN |
| 19:36.39 | Shirik | rofl |
| 19:36.39 | kd3 | whee. ruin broke again |
| 19:36.47 | ralfWORK_ | so the idea of branching and stuff pretty much blows them away |
| 19:36.54 | ralfWORK_ | so if they ever do it, they ask me |
| 19:37.01 | ralfWORK_ | to hold their hand through it |
| 19:37.30 | ralfWORK_ | so, now enter the young buck that started a few weeks back |
| 19:37.59 | ralfWORK_ | who lives in his parents basement and drinks some obscure cola-like beverage straight out of 2 litre bottles |
| 19:38.11 | ralfWORK_ | and doesn't show up on time |
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| 19:38.21 | ralfWORK_ | and he had the brilliant idea to branch something in a project |
| 19:38.33 | ralfWORK_ | then when he merged shit in, it undid someone elses shit |
| 19:39.00 | Shirik | nice. |
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| 19:53.32 | Lunessa | Mah-na-ma-nah! |
| 19:57.31 | Shirik | o.o |
| 20:00.02 | Cairenn | bunumpbunump |
| 20:00.08 | foxlit | oh fs |
| 20:00.19 | foxlit | ColorPicker's opacity slider doesn't trigger its changed event |
| 20:05.14 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, sup |
| 20:05.18 | Cairenn | you tell me |
| 20:05.39 | Kirkburn | Did you get the email? |
| 20:05.41 | Cairenn | got yours, nothing since |
| 20:05.56 | Kirkburn | Oh, you may need to repeat what you said to me back to her |
| 20:06.09 | Cairenn | she hasn't bothered to contact me |
| 20:06.11 | Cairenn | that's my point |
| 20:06.30 | Cairenn | anyway, as I said, I suppose it doesn't really matter |
| 20:06.40 | zenzelezz | hey, either share the details or take it to private :-p |
| 20:06.52 | Cairenn | not like it'll be any great loss for you guys if I pull my contributions |
| 20:10.21 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: not any big thing, I'm just considering pulling (the very little) contributions I've made to the wiki |
| 20:12.02 | Shirik|zZz | Are you still there? |
| 20:12.05 | Shirik|zZz | Nap time. |
| 20:12.12 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Shirik|zZz |
| 20:12.48 | nevcairiel | i wonder how shirik survives that crazy daily routine |
| 20:12.52 | nevcairiel | like work at 3am |
| 20:12.59 | nevcairiel | sleep at whatever time now |
| 20:13.00 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 20:13.02 | Cairenn | same way I do |
| 20:13.17 | Cairenn | you do what ya gotta do, and survive on naps |
| 20:14.18 | nevcairiel | i mean, i can do with very little sleep for quite a while, but after sometime there is always a point where i just end up in my bed, and sleep for like half a day, and after that i'm back on a normal daily schedule .. |
| 20:16.07 | Shirik|zZz | I only have 45 minutes :) |
| 20:16.09 | Shirik|zZz | IEEE meeting toda |
| 20:16.23 | Shirik|zZz | I just intend to be missing some sleep |
| 20:16.24 | Shirik|zZz | oh well |
| 20:16.45 | Shirik|zZz | but yeah, you kinda do what you gotta do |
| 20:16.49 | Shirik|zZz | Cairenn has a lot of experience with this |
| 20:16.53 | Shirik|zZz | but I yell at her so she goes to sleep |
| 20:19.47 | Lunessa | She's like the rest of us? Crazy with the lack of the sleeping and the bad food, and the too much time at a keyboard? |
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| 20:22.33 | Cairenn | yup |
| 20:22.54 | Cairenn | speaking of which .... |
| 20:22.57 | Lunessa | See, this is why we all <3 you. |
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| 20:23.29 | kd3 | mm, salty |
| 20:23.54 | Cairenn | very salty - Miss Vickies's Sea Salt & Malt Vinegar |
| 20:24.01 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, salt. |
| 20:24.03 | Cairenn | yummmmmmmy! |
| 20:24.23 | Cairenn | I tend to crave salt a lot more than I crave sweets |
| 20:25.51 | Lunessa | mmmm... Those are good chips/crisps. |
| 20:26.13 | malreth | i hate the smell of malt vinegar |
| 20:26.25 | malreth | i used to work at Captain D's when I was in high school |
| 20:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | I adore Take 5 candy bars. Chocolate covered pretzel thing good salt chocolate num. |
| 20:26.38 | Cairenn | that'd do it |
| 20:26.44 | malreth | the scent of malt vinegar or cheap fast food fried fish makes me ill |
| 20:26.46 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: heh, yup |
| 20:26.52 | Lunessa | nom nom nom nom |
| 20:27.00 | Lunessa | I don't eat fish. |
| 20:27.04 | Lopeppeppy | Get some. PMS stops. |
| 20:27.10 | Lopeppeppy | Magic |
| 20:27.27 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: rofl |
| 20:28.01 | Lopeppeppy | Magic. |
| 20:28.06 | Lunessa | Magic! |
| 20:28.28 | Lopeppeppy | Magic should be encouraged wherever you find it. |
| 20:28.38 | Cairenn | indeed! |
| 20:29.34 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: I just tried to confirm my email on WoWWiki and it said it sent the confirmation email, but I haven't received it yet |
| 20:30.42 | Kirkburn | Reporting it |
| 20:30.49 | ralfWORK_ | REPORTED |
| 20:31.50 | Cairenn | danke |
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| 20:40.56 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, since I'm being asked to ask - not in spam folder/no typos? |
| 20:41.06 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 20:41.10 | Cairenn | oh |
| 20:41.17 | Cairenn | yeah, already checked |
| 20:43.16 | Kirkburn | ta |
| 20:55.37 | Cairenn | you guys might find this an interesting read: http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2005/04/hits_where_it_h.html |
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| 20:56.20 | Lopeppeppy | I love the permeable boundaries between RL and fantasy... |
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| 21:02.50 | malreth | It's astounding the level of hate those countries still have for each other. |
| 21:02.56 | malreth | it's incredibly irrational |
| 21:04.41 | malreth | i spit water on political mine fields |
| 21:04.46 | Maldivia | speaking of... what about http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/02/nations-spies-w.html |
| 21:04.56 | Cairenn | yeah, that's weird too |
| 21:05.51 | ralfWORK_ | hahahaha that's nutty |
| 21:08.26 | Lunessa | You have to wonder... what causes enmity to persist for millennia? I mean really, does it matter that much to you (generic) what happened so long ago that everyone who was involved has been dust for for so long they're indistinguishable from generic dirt? |
| 21:08.36 | Falcon213 | why.. doesn't it hold some merit? it's just a small study to see if they can find anything from it |
| 21:09.05 | Falcon213 | and I think they're referring more to 4chan-type terrorism than world terrorism |
| 21:09.38 | ralfWORK_ | let's say |
| 21:09.49 | ralfWORK_ | it's not exactly what I'd like to see my tax dollars spent on |
| 21:10.33 | Falcon213 | Lunessa: when you are brought up to hate someone, it's not so simple as to just stop hating them |
| 21:10.48 | Falcon213 | same reason racism still exists |
| 21:12.01 | Lunessa | Falcon213: I understand. Indoctrination is a powerful effect. And a life spent hating is a powerful thing to change. I'm just shocked that something goes on for multiple thousands of years. Probably over something meaningless and stupid like, "They stole a pig from my ancestors." |
| 21:13.23 | Esamynn|Work | who can guess which one? |
| 21:13.34 | ralfWORK_ | oh I know it! |
| 21:14.04 | ralfWORK_ | Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. |
| 21:14.17 | Esamynn|Work | well, not the first sentence, but yah |
| 21:14.23 | Lunessa | "Told you already once I have. STFU you will, yes.... !" |
| 21:14.28 | Esamynn|Work | ~cookie ralfWORK_ |
| 21:14.37 | ralfWORK_ | nom nom nom ty |
| 21:14.41 | Falcon213 | Yes.. whenever I'm feared in wow it angers me |
| 21:14.44 | Falcon213 | =P |
| 21:14.55 | ralfWORK_ | HAHAAHAH |
| 21:15.01 | ralfWORK_ | yes, yes same here |
| 21:15.03 | ralfWORK_ | well |
| 21:15.07 | ralfWORK_ | not when I'm feared exactly |
| 21:15.24 | ralfWORK_ | just when I'm feared by a !@#$ warlock who has zero CD on the !@#$ thing |
| 21:15.31 | Falcon213 | usually leads to the other guy suffering though =D |
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| 21:15.43 | ralfWORK_ | rofl |
| 21:16.07 | Esamynn|Work | hate is far easier than understanding |
| 21:16.16 | ralfWORK_ | screw you hippy! |
| 21:16.36 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart ralfWORK |
| 21:16.36 | purl | whips out a sword and chops ralfWORK in half |
| 21:17.04 | ralfWORK | why can't we all just get along |
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| 21:31.14 | bleeter | here's something to amuse you, the toon in hit #3 on this search http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Harkknight has turned up in customer support crying how his account's been banned |
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| 21:32.37 | ralfWORK | orly? |
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| 21:34.54 | bleeter | oh, actually.. he's complaining that his other account got banned, from one that's being advertised as available for rent |
| 21:38.39 | Esamynn|Work | LOL |
| 21:38.53 | widger|work | Now, I'm not a rocket scientist |
| 21:38.56 | widger|work | But that's probably a bad idea. |
| 21:39.12 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:40.13 | widger|work | I bet the JPL uses goblin engineers. |
| 21:40.38 | Esamynn|Work | and what is the JPL? |
| 21:40.47 | bleeter | jet propulsion labs |
| 21:40.48 | widger|work | Jet Propulsion Laboratory =P |
| 21:40.52 | bleeter | caltech? |
| 21:40.55 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 21:41.02 | bleeter | can't recall the institution they're parented to |
| 21:41.06 | widger|work | NASA |
| 21:41.45 | bleeter | oh, I thought it was some part of a university that had kinda been taken under the wing of NASA, not an actual NASA dept. thanks for the clarification :) |
| 21:49.13 | zenzelezz | they're both just branches of the free masons |
| 21:50.18 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 22:06.00 | Lunessa | I'm reading the forums... and ... well, I have nothing to add. |
| 22:06.05 | ralfWORK | hahahaha |
| 22:06.20 | ralfWORK | I find when I read too many forums |
| 22:06.25 | ralfWORK | I either want to off myself |
| 22:06.34 | ralfWORK | or off everyone else |
| 22:06.35 | ralfWORK | or both |
| 22:07.10 | Lunessa | Let me know when those urges get really strong... I want to seal the door on my bunker before you go off. |
| 22:07.15 | ralfWORK | :) |
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| 22:17.11 | Shirik | omg big storm ftl |
| 22:17.19 | Shirik | been a while since I've seen a storm this big |
| 22:17.43 | Shirik | and then all of a sudden it becomes quiet |
| 22:17.46 | Shirik | that's never a good thing |
| 22:18.00 | widger|work | You're in another IRC dimension. |
| 22:18.07 | Shirik | o.o |
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| 22:19.11 | kd3 | ya, it was weird up in statesboro today... woke up to ~30mph winds buffeting the apartment, til the storm hit |
| 22:19.19 | Shirik | http://www.accuweather.com/radar-local.asp?anim=0&type=R1&site=KJAX |
| 22:19.20 | Shirik | not fun |
| 22:19.46 | Shirik | I'm in that one little group on that "daytona beach" dot |
| 22:19.56 | Shirik | where somehow a big random "red" group has formed all around my area |
| 22:19.58 | Shirik | and nowhere else |
| 22:20.04 | kd3 | yeah, that was the front that hit us noonish |
| 22:20.56 | Shirik | it was windy all day too yeagh |
| 22:21.05 | Shirik | I'd estimate about 30 |
| 22:21.19 | Shirik | gave up trying to use a cell phone nobody could hear me |
| 22:22.23 | malreth | When God cleanses the Earth of its filth in the Day of Reckoning, He will start with Japan first. |
| 22:22.43 | kd3 | whuzzat? |
| 22:23.07 | Shirik | why japan :< |
| 22:23.09 | Shirik | I like Japan |
| 22:23.14 | malreth | It's called Holy Wrath. LERN2BIBLE! |
| 22:23.27 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart malreth |
| 22:23.27 | purl | takes out malreth with the trash |
| 22:23.28 | Shirik | Wouldn't that kill us all though? |
| 22:23.30 | Shirik | It's a chain effect |
| 22:23.40 | kd3 | lmao. what a perfect lart |
| 22:23.46 | Esamynn|Work | no kidding |
| 22:23.49 | Esamynn|Work | ~botsnack |
| 22:23.49 | purl | Esamynn|Work: thanks |
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| 22:36.49 | batrick | I'd say he'd start with the middle east but eventually one of them will nuke the area to take out the infidels |
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| 22:46.08 | foxlit | The size of my update notes rivals that of a minor WoW patch :( |
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| 22:47.55 | Shirik | batrick: He doesn't have to start with them |
| 22:47.58 | Shirik | they will blow themselves up |
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| 22:49.46 | batrick | that's what I meant :D |
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| 23:05.37 | Lunessa | You see Daffy, he doesn't have to shoot you now. |
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| 23:09.48 | kd3 | but whee for hortus... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4913973224&sid=1&pageNo=3#44 |
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| 23:13.42 | Lunessa | Bananas taste good. |
| 23:14.03 | Fisker- | my guess is that they're going to put the realms together now |
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| 23:32.02 | Shirik|Ecole | lookie Cairenn I'm still alive! |
| 23:32.08 | Cairenn | good |
| 23:32.13 | Cairenn | thank you |
| 23:32.16 | kd3 | SSOIDH |
| 23:36.12 | Fisker- | btw kd3 i'm going to be right |
| 23:36.12 | Fisker- | :o |
| 23:36.56 | kd3 | hm? |
| 23:37.19 | Fisker- | about the ptr |
| 23:37.37 | Fisker- | they are merging realms or making all realms available for all regions |
| 23:37.42 | Fisker- | i know it to be true and so on |
| 23:38.13 | kd3 | after hearing that they probably weren't coming up tonight, that was my assumption too. it'd make sense, if only two weeks late |
| 23:39.47 | Fisker- | i really should start on that 7-page assignment for today |
| 23:42.33 | Duman | hmm |
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