| 00:02.00 | dylanm | Still getting a GoDaddy page. Awesome. |
| 00:02.42 | ScytheBlade1 | dylanm: nuke your DNS server's cache ;) |
| 00:03.22 | dylanm | Maybe I willlll. |
| 00:03.27 | wereHamster | dylanm, yean, nuke comcast :) |
| 00:03.39 | dylanm | It has crossed my mind. |
| 00:03.41 | batrick | hey Shirik, pong? |
| 00:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Problem solved imo |
| 00:04.15 | Shirik | stupid question batrick, nm |
| 00:04.22 | Shirik | Going off to school, bbiab |
| 00:04.22 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1, and with which dns server do you sync? one of the root servers? |
| 00:05.15 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: my server uses the root servers, and any computer/DNS server that I control syncs off of my server |
| 00:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: `rndc -s server flush` `rndc -s router flush` |
| 00:05.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Tada! |
| 00:06.09 | wereHamster | bind, heh? |
| 00:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 00:07.01 | ScytheBlade1 | alias flushdns="rndc -s server flush; rndc -s router fluse" |
| 00:07.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Makes things easy |
| 00:07.42 | ScytheBlade1 | *flush |
| 00:07.44 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah |
| 00:07.49 | wereHamster | do you need to flush that often? |
| 00:07.49 | kd3 | heh, just noticed that all of the class trainers on the arena realms are wearing season 2 |
| 00:07.58 | kd3 | s/season/tier/ |
| 00:08.10 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: no, but I play wiyh DNS a *lot* - so it's useful when I do |
| 00:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | *with |
| 00:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Typing on a new keyboard with frozen hands sucks |
| 00:08.43 | Atriace | Anyone know how to get current game time in milliseconds? |
| 00:09.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: technically you can't, all you have is system uptime with milliseconds |
| 00:09.03 | wereHamster | Atriace, do you need absolute time? |
| 00:09.46 | Atriace | Doing a casting bar. You get the start time, and the end time, but time since cast? |
| 00:10.14 | Atriace | It's all in milliseconds, so I expected to to deduct the gametime (milliseconds) from the end time. |
| 00:10.16 | wereHamster | GetTime() - start_time |
| 00:10.17 | dylanm | That's on your OnUpdate I imagine? |
| 00:10.26 | Atriace | Aye |
| 00:10.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Ack. I want to add more to my unitframes, but from here on out, any of these events that I use will go poof with 2.4 |
| 00:11.18 | Atriace | ... which events? |
| 00:12.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Buffs appearing/disappearing |
| 00:13.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Debuffs too |
| 00:13.36 | ScytheBlade1 | UNIT_HEALTH, UNIT_MANA, etc, all still there |
| 00:13.51 | Atriace | whew.... good. |
| 00:14.11 | ScytheBlade1 | But anything related to combatlog data - basically, everything BUT health, mana, and spell cast events |
| 00:14.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Poof |
| 00:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually maybe even spell cast events |
| 00:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, I like the PTR gmotd |
| 00:15.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That's classy |
| 00:15.39 | Atriace | I don't see it mentioned in the test realm notes. Where are you getting that, ScytheBlade? |
| 00:15.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, spell cast start/stop/etc are still events |
| 00:16.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: sec |
| 00:16.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: two places. One, http://wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_%28Full_List%29 - search for "Replaced in 2.4.0" |
| 00:17.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: second, slouken's post on the matter - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=9#177 |
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| 00:19.00 | Atriace | Ah, not that bad (just CL stuff). You're relying on that info for new unit frames? |
| 00:19.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Some of it ti work nicely, you kinda have to |
| 00:19.19 | ScytheBlade1 | *to |
| 00:19.20 | Atriace | Thanks for the info, btw. |
| 00:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're superimposing hit point gain/loss, for example |
| 00:19.42 | ScytheBlade1 | You can either record current health and display the differences |
| 00:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Or you can simply watch for the clog events, and display that data |
| 00:21.18 | ScytheBlade1 | There are ups and downs to either method |
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| 00:28.27 | Shirik|Ecole | so this is why, when you can't figure something out, it's best to take a break and come back tomorrow |
| 00:28.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I took two seconds looking at this breadboard and said to myself "I'm an idiot" |
| 00:29.14 | Shirik|Ecole | "Well ok, what's the current flowing through the base?" *grabs multimeter* "Wait.... there's no wire connected to the base >.>" |
| 00:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Smooth |
| 00:36.43 | Shirik|Ecole | ~5/330 |
| 00:36.43 | purl | 0.015151515152 |
| 00:36.52 | Shirik|Ecole | ~7.2/100 |
| 00:36.53 | purl | 0.072 |
| 00:39.55 | Shirik|Ecole | Hey batrick, on a MOSFET, what does D, G, S stand for? (See how much I know about BJTs and zero about MOSFETs >< ) |
| 00:40.17 | [dRaCo] | drain, gate, source |
| 00:40.33 | Shirik|Ecole | screw mosfets, too had to use |
| 00:40.37 | Shirik|Ecole | hard |
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| 00:50.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Win |
| 00:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Destruction, Heroic, and Haste potions |
| 00:50.28 | ScytheBlade1 | All on my druid |
| 00:50.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay for alchemy |
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| 01:15.04 | Shirik|Ecole | Anyone know if there's an electronics IRC channel? >< |
| 01:17.46 | Tuller | I would be very surprised if there was not one |
| 01:17.57 | Shirik|Ecole | ##electronics works but I don't know if that's what they talk about in there >< |
| 01:18.01 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm trying to read their pages to find out |
| 01:18.10 | Tuller | probably beastiality |
| 01:18.38 | Shirik|Ecole | ~7/154 |
| 01:18.38 | purl | 0.045454545455 |
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| 01:29.02 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: drain and source is different for p and n channel transistors so be careful :P |
| 01:29.16 | batrick | n channel, source is ground |
| 01:29.22 | batrick | for p channel, source is Vhi |
| 01:32.16 | Shirik|Ecole | Not using mosfets :P |
| 01:32.24 | Shirik|Ecole | being lazy and sticking with my BJTs |
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| 01:37.14 | Maul | Well, that was wierd, was using mibbit and freenode banned me :( |
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| 01:40.49 | Shirik|Ecole | oi |
| 01:40.55 | Shirik|Ecole | they found a very important flaw in my design |
| 01:40.58 | Shirik|Ecole | he's right :< |
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| 01:56.03 | sacarasc | Maul: moral of the story, don't use the same connection as multiple other people, especially if it can be abused by anyone |
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| 02:11.59 | WobWork | oh man |
| 02:11.59 | WobWork | the Rapture index is at 168 |
| 02:11.59 | WobWork | http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html |
| 02:13.31 | Guillotine | haha |
| 02:17.20 | pastamancer | WobWork: do you have your purple sneakers ready for the koolaid social later on? |
| 02:17.41 | kd3 | wtb 3 clean screenshots... nearly done with http://www.wowwiki.com/Arena_Tournament_NPCs |
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| 02:28.29 | Shirik|Ecole | !google MCM4416BP20 |
| 02:28.30 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: no results |
| 02:28.33 | Shirik|Ecole | !google |
| 02:28.34 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 02:28.40 | Shirik|Ecole | !google HQQAN8819 |
| 02:28.41 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: no results |
| 02:28.45 | Shirik|Ecole | ~fail batbot |
| 02:28.46 | purl | batbot: Fail. |
| 02:28.57 | batrick | uh ok |
| 02:29.08 | batrick | just cuz google found nothing! |
| 02:29.10 | batrick | ~lol |
| 02:29.10 | purl | rumour has it, lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 02:29.12 | Shirik|Ecole | wtb knowledge of what this entire cabinet is full of |
| 02:29.33 | Shirik|Ecole | There has got to be something on the order of 1000 of these ICs |
| 02:29.36 | Shirik|Ecole | and I have no clue what it is |
| 02:29.36 | batrick | ~fail purl |
| 02:29.37 | purl | purl: Fail. |
| 02:29.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I just want a fricking op amp |
| 02:29.53 | batrick | QQ |
| 02:31.58 | Shirik|Ecole | this really sucks |
| 02:32.03 | Shirik|Ecole | this relay turns on at 47mA |
| 02:32.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I have 43mA |
| 02:32.15 | Shirik|Ecole | and I have no way of getting it higher |
| 02:32.56 | WobWork | whut? /me lol? |
| 02:33.00 | batrick | there is always a way |
| 02:33.13 | Shirik|Ecole | Well the way is to connect it to the 14V line instead of the 7V line |
| 02:33.37 | Shirik|Ecole | problem is that the 14V line can go as high as 17V, and that's too high for some of the components |
| 02:33.45 | Shirik|Ecole | unless you have a better idea |
| 02:33.56 | WobWork | That does -not- work =P |
| 02:33.56 | batrick | 14V line plus diode |
| 02:33.58 | batrick | mhmmmm |
| 02:34.01 | Shirik|Ecole | relay turns on at 47mA, I have a 7V line that I need to trip |
| 02:34.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought about that |
| 02:34.11 | Shirik|Ecole | wouldn't that cause a lot of power loss? or no |
| 02:34.17 | batrick | don't think so |
| 02:34.55 | Shirik|Ecole | this relay is going to have like a ton of diodes hooked up to it >< |
| 02:35.08 | Shirik|Ecole | one backwards, 4 forwards |
| 02:35.10 | Shirik|Ecole | they'll think I'm nuts |
| 02:36.16 | batrick | Obama is the antichrist |
| 02:36.26 | batrick | "The Antichrist will appear as a political leader with a peace plan and will confirm a 7 year covenant with Israel." |
| 02:36.29 | batrick | lolz |
| 02:36.38 | batrick | he's even muslim it all fits |
| 02:36.46 | Atriace | Obama bin laden |
| 02:36.50 | Atriace | Oops, that's not right |
| 02:36.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:36.59 | Atriace | Obama Hussein Saddam |
| 02:37.02 | Atriace | Oops, wrong again. |
| 02:37.49 | Atriace | Oh whatever his name is. Barak Obama. Be nice to have a president in office with a name like BO |
| 02:37.54 | Atriace | Hope he's not bad BO |
| 02:37.58 | Atriace | that'd be hairy. |
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| 02:41.18 | Shirik|Ecole | !google KHS-173D1-12 |
| 02:41.19 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: no results |
| 02:41.21 | Shirik|Ecole | .... |
| 02:41.53 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf is batbot on about |
| 02:41.57 | Shirik|Ecole | I see the result right here |
| 02:42.50 | sacarasc | likely an api change |
| 02:42.53 | sacarasc | my guess anyway |
| 02:43.01 | Shirik|Ecole | !google test |
| 02:43.02 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: Test.com Web Based Testing Software <http://www.test.com/> |
| 02:44.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol. They must get some interesting spam. |
| 02:45.23 | WobWork | Your search - KHS-173D1-12 - did not match any documents. |
| 02:45.33 | Shirik|Ecole | worked for me |
| 02:45.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I dunno what your problem is :P |
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| 02:46.17 | batrick | no results for me either :P |
| 02:46.23 | WobWork | I dunno |
| 02:46.23 | WobWork | maybe you're hacking google =P |
| 02:47.19 | batrick | !google is shirik bad? |
| 02:47.21 | batbot | batrick: shirik on deviantART <http://shirik.deviantart.com/> |
| 02:47.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ORLY |
| 02:48.26 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf? |
| 02:48.29 | Shirik|Ecole | that's not me -_- |
| 02:48.36 | Shirik|Ecole | mine is http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com |
| 02:48.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I detect a cover up |
| 02:52.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I like how I did a search for the part on the manufacturer's website |
| 02:52.44 | Shirik|Ecole | and it timed out |
| 02:53.02 | Shirik|Ecole | as if someone doesn't want me to know what this part is |
| 02:53.03 | Shirik|Ecole | ffs it's a relay |
| 02:53.13 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't want to blow it up but I need to know its maximum voltage rating |
| 02:53.43 | widgertick | 1.21 gigawatts! |
| 02:53.50 | Shirik|Ecole | ~lart widgertick |
| 02:53.50 | purl | executes killall -HUP widgertick |
| 02:53.58 | widgertick | ;_; |
| 02:54.18 | widgertick | I didn't know any entertaining movie quotes pertaining to voltage. |
| 02:54.24 | widgertick | I understand the difference. =P |
| 02:54.30 | Shirik|Ecole | *cough* batrick *cough* |
| 02:54.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Stick to coding widgertick ^_^ |
| 02:55.22 | Shirik|Ecole | good |
| 02:55.23 | Shirik|Ecole | you're not as stupid as most software engineers :) |
| 02:55.23 | Shirik|Ecole | Sadly most software engineers know nothing about computers these days |
| 02:56.00 | Shirik|Ecole | you know what, screw it |
| 02:56.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm going to feed 30V into this relay and see if it blows up |
| 02:56.11 | Shirik|Ecole | if it does, oh well. I have about 20 more |
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| 02:56.52 | Shirik|Ecole | WAIT! YES! |
| 02:56.56 | Shirik|Ecole | The site finally found the datasheet |
| 02:57.45 | batrick | gj |
| 02:59.40 | Shirik|Ecole | uh |
| 02:59.40 | Shirik|Ecole | WTF! |
| 02:59.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I found the page |
| 02:59.44 | Shirik|Ecole | http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?C=1&M=BYPN&TCPN=2-1393836-0&RQPN=KHS-17D31-12 |
| 02:59.49 | Shirik|Ecole | Catalog Pages/Data Sheets: |
| 02:59.49 | Shirik|Ecole | None Available |
| 02:59.53 | Shirik|Ecole | ... you're kidding, right? |
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| 03:03.11 | Shirik|Ecole | contrary to popular belief, my disconnection was not due to me blowing up a relay |
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| 03:04.31 | Shirik|Ecole | !google 2N3904 |
| 03:04.32 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: 2N3904/MMBT3904/PZT3904 NPN General Purpose Amplifier <http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/2N/2N3904.pdf> |
| 03:04.44 | Shirik|Ecole | ~hug batbot |
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| 03:08.27 | WobWork | hm |
| 03:08.38 | WobWork | oddly enough autoAway seems to reset |
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| 03:40.52 | Shaktar | hi Iriel, got a question for u |
| 03:41.03 | Iriel | hm? |
| 03:41.20 | Shaktar | remember me? the showgrid flashing problem? your tip worked well |
| 03:41.24 | Shaktar | like magic |
| 03:41.30 | Shaktar | but i have another problem |
| 03:41.59 | Shaktar | i'm getting a taint (action blocked) message when using showgrid |
| 03:42.17 | Shaktar | not having anything to do with your tip |
| 03:45.19 | Shaktar | i don't think i can work around this |
| 03:46.46 | Shaktar | i've put a post up if u have time to look at it |
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| 03:48.22 | Iriel | I dont have time right now, hopefully someone who does will spot it and try and help. Otherwise you can harass me tomorrow 8-) |
| 03:48.59 | Shaktar | i guess i'll harass u tomorrow :) |
| 03:50.56 | Shirik | put your post up |
| 03:51.01 | Shirik | surely someone else can see it |
| 03:52.09 | Shaktar | i just posted it |
| 03:59.10 | Shirik | !ap 1638 |
| 03:59.10 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1638 is, 2v2: 393, 3v3: 455, 5v5: 517 |
| 03:59.13 | Shirik | Shaktar: Where? |
| 04:00.03 | Shaktar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773503744&postId=49757670035&sid=1#32 |
| 04:00.19 | Shaktar | i posted it in the "action blocked" thread |
| 04:02.34 | art3mis | boobies yay \o/ |
| 04:07.19 | Shirik | whoops |
| 04:07.24 | Shirik | I think I left the music on at school |
| 04:07.25 | Shirik | oh well |
| 04:08.30 | art3mis | was it rick astley? |
| 04:09.24 | art3mis | you should use yer electrical skills and wire up all the rooms speakers to play rick astley whenever the door is closed |
| 04:11.57 | batrick | u r |
| 04:18.58 | Shirik | art3mis: I have something really fun planned for this christmas |
| 04:19.13 | Shirik | batrick: are relays supposed to get warm? |
| 04:19.17 | Shirik | rather, do they typically? |
| 04:19.27 | Shirik | it wasn't really "hot" but it was warmer than I'm used to feeling |
| 04:19.33 | Shirik | rather, it wasn't cold :P |
| 04:21.07 | Shirik | batrick: I was thinking |
| 04:21.07 | batrick | Shirik: i wouldn't know |
| 04:21.37 | Shirik | Is there some kind of metamethod that manipulates how pairs, etc. will work? |
| 04:21.48 | batrick | uh, not until 5.2 |
| 04:22.00 | Shirik | could we aim filumlunaris at 5.2? :P |
| 04:22.10 | batrick | I don't see why we would need to |
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| 04:22.51 | Shirik | for tables? |
| 04:23.10 | batrick | still |
| 04:23.30 | Shirik | if we had that, transparent wrapping would be rather simple |
| 04:23.40 | Iriel | For now, usually you only care in your own code, so you just write your own pairs method. 8-) |
| 04:24.08 | Shirik | Iriel: This will be used externally, I'm hoping not to hook any of the API, basically |
| 04:24.29 | Shirik | and I also hope that the fact that it's not really a table would be completely transparent |
| 04:24.30 | Iriel | Ah.. in wow? or outside of wow? |
| 04:24.34 | Shirik | outside |
| 04:24.44 | Iriel | Oh, then just wrap next or pairs |
| 04:25.10 | Shirik | Maybe Iriel has a good idea, batrick? |
| 04:25.26 | batrick | maybe |
| 04:25.29 | batrick | has him :P |
| 04:25.30 | Iriel | I've seen some interesting implementations of that |
| 04:25.47 | Shirik | Iriel, let us say we wanted to share a table across two states. Obviously one has to be the one responsible for GC |
| 04:25.58 | Iriel | for example checking the table metatable for a __next method. |
| 04:26.08 | Shirik | I had the idea of having the responsible state keeping a count of how many other states are using it -- while that's greater than zero, maintain a reference so it will not be GCed |
| 04:26.17 | Shirik | then the problem becomes determining when the other states re no longer using it |
| 04:26.50 | batrick | Iriel: he's talking about seperate global states |
| 04:27.01 | Shirik | I haven't figured out a good soltuion to that yet |
| 04:27.46 | Iriel | Create a userdata in the referenCING state that has a _gc metamethod.. and create a managed reference in the source state that prevents the table from being collected... |
| 04:28.04 | Iriel | and when the userdata is collected, remove the managed reference. |
| 04:28.08 | Shirik | Yeah I thought about that |
| 04:28.12 | Iriel | Ideally you'd do that for table keys during iteration too |
| 04:28.17 | Shirik | then that leaves one final problem |
| 04:28.32 | Shirik | How to make this transparent, if possible |
| 04:28.42 | Shirik | Oh wait |
| 04:28.47 | Iriel | Well, you can't make it REALLY transparent without altering the C code. |
| 04:28.48 | Shirik | you're saying create a userdata along with the table |
| 04:28.52 | Shirik | not make that table the userdata? |
| 04:28.53 | Iriel | Yes. |
| 04:28.57 | Iriel | That would be part of it. |
| 04:29.25 | Iriel | your table wouldn't behave right for rawget/rawset but it'd beotherwise fairly transparent |
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| 04:31.50 | art3mis | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/blackwarelekk.jpg |
| 04:39.30 | Shirik | actually Iriel now I remember the problem |
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| 04:39.49 | Shirik | wait nm |
| 04:39.53 | Shirik | I just need to think about it for a few minutes |
| 04:40.51 | Iriel | Theoretically you just need to proxy get/set/ and next |
| 04:41.05 | Shirik | Okay so we have a userdata |
| 04:41.15 | Shirik | will that be viewed as the table, or just be in existence along with the table? |
| 04:41.25 | Iriel | It'll be referenced by the metamethods for the table |
| 04:42.04 | Shirik | so that when the table is GCed, so is the userdata, and thus __gc is called |
| 04:42.09 | Iriel | Either by putting it in the table (messy), in the metatable (maybe messy), or perhaps looked up via an internal (weak keyed) proxy table key, userdata value reference table |
| 04:42.25 | Shirik | However that raises the problem batrick found earlier with my old solution -- the table doesn't really exist |
| 04:42.35 | Shirik | Lua will never GC it because it doesn't know it exists in that state |
| 04:42.51 | Shirik | I think we need to find a better way of linking the table across states |
| 04:42.58 | Shirik | the lua_xmove is probably a bad idea, as you said batrick |
| 04:45.01 | Iriel | Wait what? |
| 04:45.19 | Iriel | Suppose the table lives in state A |
| 04:45.34 | Iriel | Somehow (and this is the bit I dont understand of your wacky scheme) state B requests a reference to the table |
| 04:46.05 | Iriel | You'd create an ACTUAL TABLE in state B (Call it tB), coupled to a userdata reference (uB) |
| 04:46.31 | Iriel | Somehow, in your magical C code, that would simultaneously create a reference to the table in state A (Call it rtA) |
| 04:46.46 | Iriel | Now, tB has all the proxy junk so it behaves as if it's really tA |
| 04:46.55 | Iriel | and since it's a real table, it's collectable... |
| 04:46.58 | Shirik | mmmm I see what you're doing |
| 04:47.17 | Iriel | and when it IS collected, uB eventually gets GC'ed, and your wacky C code then destroys the reference in state A (rtA) |
| 04:47.33 | Shirik | Yeah I think that's a good method |
| 04:47.40 | Shirik | only problem is, like you said, rawset, rawget, etc. |
| 04:49.36 | Iriel | You have 2 choices... |
| 04:49.49 | Iriel | 1) Change the C implementation to support your special table (in which case you can fix them there) |
| 04:50.02 | Iriel | 2) Hook them like you will pairs or next |
| 04:50.08 | Iriel | Actually, I guess 3) remove them 8-) |
| 04:50.18 | Shirik | 4) Write my own GC support :D |
| 04:50.26 | Shirik | batrick didn't like that idea though |
| 04:50.41 | Shirik | I don't either |
| 04:50.47 | Iriel | I think the less you do the the GC mechanism, the better |
| 04:50.49 | Shirik | I think #2 is the easiest thing to do |
| 04:51.03 | Iriel | let lua handle that itself, you just need to make sure you have the right references in the right places |
| 04:51.14 | Iriel | Dont even try tricky stuff like managing your own reference counts |
| 04:51.32 | Iriel | Just go with a one-proxy, one-userdata approach. |
| 04:51.43 | Iriel | Sorry one-proxy, one-userdata, one-reference approach |
| 04:52.01 | Iriel | you can go back and share proxies etc later if you need to |
| 04:53.27 | art3mis | http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?/input_devices/ocz_prepares_neural_impulse_actuator_for_shipping_next_week/1 |
| 05:02.59 | batrick | interesting approach |
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| 05:04.01 | MonkeyDLuffy | hello |
| 05:04.16 | batrick | hi |
| 05:04.22 | Shirik | hi |
| 05:04.23 | MonkeyDLuffy | :) |
| 05:04.28 | MonkeyDLuffy | hi guyz |
| 05:04.33 | MonkeyDLuffy | im a new player in wow |
| 05:04.44 | Iriel | Yay, fresh blood! |
| 05:04.49 | MonkeyDLuffy | i mean it will be my first time playing IF i get it to work |
| 05:04.56 | Shirik | Speaking of blood |
| 05:05.00 | Shirik | kd3: ping |
| 05:05.03 | MonkeyDLuffy | i cant start the game its getting stuck at authenticating |
| 05:05.05 | kd3 | hm? |
| 05:05.14 | Shirik | I was watching an anime last night I had no idea what it was |
| 05:05.16 | MonkeyDLuffy | i have spent 15 hours trying to fix it |
| 05:05.17 | Shirik | was hoping you might know |
| 05:05.29 | MonkeyDLuffy | :) |
| 05:05.36 | MonkeyDLuffy | blood+ |
| 05:05.37 | MonkeyDLuffy | ? |
| 05:05.37 | Shirik | It was on adult swim, something about fighting and there was this girl to protect, and everyone was being "drained of blood" |
| 05:05.37 | haste | Shirik: I might be able to help :3 |
| 05:05.56 | Shirik | There was something, I think a race, it starts with a K? |
| 05:06.02 | kd3 | that sounds early in the blood+ season |
| 05:06.28 | kd3 | ep 5ish |
| 05:06.28 | MonkeyDLuffy | :P |
| 05:06.42 | Shirik | Yup that's it |
| 05:06.43 | Shirik | <3 kd3 |
| 05:07.06 | MonkeyDLuffy | so anyone has any idea wtf is wrong with my wow . |
| 05:07.07 | MonkeyDLuffy | :P |
| 05:07.33 | Shirik | authenticating |
| 05:07.36 | Shirik | 15 hours? |
| 05:07.43 | Shirik | do you have any firewalls? |
| 05:07.47 | MonkeyDLuffy | i have spent 15 hours trying to fix it |
| 05:07.49 | Shirik | well, no it shouldn't get that far if you do |
| 05:07.51 | MonkeyDLuffy | i think not |
| 05:07.53 | batrick | so shirik we'll have a wrapper function and wrapper table for functions and tables respectively? |
| 05:08.06 | MonkeyDLuffy | also i have added the ports on my router |
| 05:08.14 | Shirik | batrick: And each one would have an associated userdata |
| 05:08.16 | MonkeyDLuffy | and im running the latest patch |
| 05:08.23 | Cairenn|afk | Kaelten: ping? |
| 05:08.40 | batrick | yes |
| 05:08.52 | batrick | trying to think how we would do full userdata |
| 05:09.06 | MonkeyDLuffy | :? |
| 05:09.08 | MonkeyDLuffy | :/ |
| 05:09.46 | batrick | think we shouldn't do threads, that'd be nuts :P |
| 05:10.05 | MonkeyDLuffy | anyway thanks for everything guyz i guess i will try another channel.. |
| 05:10.23 | Shirik | sorry MonkeyDLuffy |
| 05:10.38 | MonkeyDLuffy | dont worry |
| 05:10.42 | MonkeyDLuffy | im just desperate |
| 05:10.49 | MonkeyDLuffy | i have tried everything i could find |
| 05:10.53 | Shirik | batrick: full userdata is easy :) |
| 05:10.54 | MonkeyDLuffy | or think of |
| 05:11.26 | Shirik | we can use our own userdata type to wrap it |
| 05:13.28 | batrick | don't think so |
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| 05:15.12 | AnduinLothar | Anyone played with the new UI option panel? |
| 05:16.31 | Iriel | Shirik: You could actually have just ONE metadata for this magic table.. |
| 05:16.36 | Iriel | Shirik: For all instances of it, I mean |
| 05:16.48 | Shirik | yeah, but not for different tables |
| 05:16.53 | Maul | I have |
| 05:16.57 | Iriel | Yes, even for different tables |
| 05:17.17 | batrick | O.o |
| 05:17.18 | Iriel | You'd need a lookup from the proxy table instance to the userdata for it |
| 05:17.26 | Iriel | and each method would go through that |
| 05:17.38 | Iriel | That might haev performance implications |
| 05:17.41 | Shirik | but what about determining when the table is GCed? |
| 05:19.07 | Iriel | table with weak keys (the table), and then the userdata as its values |
| 05:19.20 | Iriel | in theory once the table is GC'ed, the userdata gets GC'ed too (since its only reference is gone) |
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| 05:27.42 | Shirik | Iriel: But I thought the same userdata was used by all "magic tables" |
| 05:27.50 | Shirik | or maybe I missunderstood you |
| 05:28.55 | Iriel | One metatable, one set of functions. A different userdata for each magic table |
| 05:33.27 | batrick | are you saying one metatable for each metatable we want to share across states |
| 05:33.32 | batrick | each table* |
| 05:33.55 | batrick | or one metatable for _all_ tables we want to share across states? |
| 05:36.21 | Iriel | the latter |
| 05:38.31 | Sixen | ~seen Duman |
| 05:38.32 | purl | duman is currently on #wowi-lounge. Has said a total of 122 messages. Is idling for 10h 38m 47s, last said: 'those should never break, at least :)'. |
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| 05:50.59 | Th3Unknown | is there a mod that creates a, maybe blizzard-like, unit frame for your focused target? Preferably one that can show a casting bar for the focused unit |
| 05:51.26 | AnduinLothar | FocusTarget |
| 05:51.29 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 05:51.32 | AnduinLothar | FocusFrame |
| 05:51.41 | AnduinLothar | it's an addon. try curse |
| 05:52.06 | AnduinLothar | oh nm, it's on wowi too |
| 05:52.11 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6463-FocusFrame.html |
| 05:52.15 | Th3Unknown | oh perfect |
| 05:52.18 | Th3Unknown | thanks a lot dude |
| 05:52.20 | Shirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6463-FocusFrame.html |
| 05:52.43 | Shirik | why is that not marked as working with 2.3.. |
| 05:53.31 | AnduinLothar | i believe it actually errors, hasn't been updated |
| 05:53.35 | AnduinLothar | but it still works |
| 05:53.40 | AnduinLothar | and it's an easy fix |
| 05:53.47 | Th3Unknown | it was updated on 2-18 |
| 05:53.52 | Th3Unknown | how could it not work o.o |
| 05:53.57 | AnduinLothar | ah, ok then maybe he fixed it |
| 05:54.12 | AnduinLothar | prolly just didn't click the checkbox |
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| 05:59.55 | Guillotine | night all |
| 06:00.05 | Shirik | Battleground info: 11 alliance players. 1 horde player. |
| 06:00.06 | Shirik | No fair. |
| 06:00.15 | Shirik | 12* |
| 06:00.51 | Cairenn | night Guillotine |
| 06:01.00 | Cairenn | ~poke Kaelten |
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| 06:09.08 | Shirik | ~poke Kaelten |
| 06:09.12 | Shirik | ~literal poke |
| 06:09.43 | Cairenn | purl seems to be on vacation |
| 06:10.01 | Shirik | purl's working in other channels |
| 06:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 06:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Funny what a SetHeight() when you meant to do SetHeight() can do |
| 06:10.26 | Shirik | purl, hi |
| 06:10.27 | purl | hello, shirik |
| 06:10.27 | ScytheBlade1 | .. |
| 06:10.29 | Shirik | ?? |
| 06:10.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Height/Width |
| 06:11.49 | Cairenn | ~botsnack |
| 06:11.49 | purl | Cairenn: thanks |
| 06:11.57 | Cairenn | ~poke Kaelten |
| 06:12.03 | Cairenn | hmmmmmm |
| 06:12.10 | Cairenn | ~lart Kaelten |
| 06:12.10 | purl | slaps Kaelten around with a large trout |
| 06:12.21 | Cairenn | seems someone's removed poke |
| 06:19.11 | art3mis | !whalepoke cairenn |
| 06:19.15 | art3mis | ~whalepoke cairenn |
| 06:19.20 | art3mis | aww |
| 06:19.23 | Cairenn | ~whaleblock art3mis |
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| 06:19.35 | art3mis | ~whaletackle cairenn |
| 06:19.38 | Shirik | you all fail |
| 06:19.44 | Cairenn | hmmmmmm ..... me thinks TimRiker has cleaned out a lot of stuff from purl |
| 06:19.48 | Cairenn | ~cairenn |
| 06:19.48 | purl | i heard cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface, also EQI, EQ2I, LotROI and VGI |
| 06:19.54 | Cairenn | ~emulate Cairenn |
| 06:19.54 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 06:19.55 | art3mis | ~lart3mis |
| 06:19.55 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 06:21.18 | Kaelten | :( |
| 06:21.33 | Syzgyn | does anyone have a link to that .xml file full of boss mob id's on the armory? |
| 06:21.41 | Cairenn | hey Kaelten |
| 06:22.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~whalecrit Cairenn |
| 06:23.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | THIS. SHALL. NOT. STAND |
| 06:24.11 | Shirik | what happened to all the whalefu? |
| 06:26.26 | Cairenn | not just the whale stuff that's gone |
| 06:26.29 | Cairenn | poke is gone |
| 06:39.13 | Shirik | Holy shit |
| 06:39.19 | Shirik | people are coding for conspiracy already o.o |
| 06:39.22 | sacarasc | pope did a poo? |
| 06:39.27 | Shirik | I did a google search for my name randomly, and found this: http://code.google.com/p/allpointsbulletin/source/diff?r=6&format=side&path=/trunk/APB.lua |
| 06:40.34 | Shirik | anyway |
| 06:41.14 | sacarasc | i hate to sound totally ignorant, but what is conspiracy in this context? |
| 06:42.03 | Shirik | a raiding UI framework created by Cidan and myself |
| 06:42.18 | Shirik | not released yet though, aside from semi-beta |
| 06:42.21 | sacarasc | ah, ok |
| 06:49.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: lol, grats, they're embedding ace into conspiracy |
| 06:49.32 | Shirik | I saw that |
| 06:49.36 | Shirik | and I was like "... wow" |
| 06:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's pretty much my reaction too |
| 06:49.47 | Shirik | maybe they just did a !google wow library |
| 06:49.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That is... a haha |
| 06:49.53 | Shirik | and then took everything and put it in |
| 06:49.59 | ScytheBlade1 | YOU CAN HOPE |
| 06:50.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Like, I was reading the source, and it took me a minute to find the conspiracy reference |
| 06:50.51 | Shirik | batrick: ping |
| 06:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywho sleeo |
| 06:51.14 | ScytheBlade1 | *sleep |
| 06:51.43 | Kemayo | Do Blizz open the AQ gates on new servers eventually if no-one does the scepter quests? |
| 06:51.54 | Shirik | yes |
| 06:52.22 | Kemayo | Hmm. Any idea what sort of time-limit they go on? |
| 06:53.35 | Th3Unknown | actually, new servers come with the AQ gates already open |
| 06:53.50 | Th3Unknown | you can still do the quests, anyone can, but just not the part of the opening |
| 07:03.30 | Syzgyn | Kemayo: you can't get the scarab-lord title anymore |
| 07:05.32 | Kemayo | Syzgyn: I don't care about that -- I'd just like the mount. |
| 07:06.40 | Syzgyn | Mount is stuck with the title |
| 07:06.54 | Syzgyn | or completed within 10 hours after the first ringing of the gong |
| 07:08.40 | Kemayo | Syzgyn: It looks like the gates are still closed on Cairne, so there might be a shot... |
| 07:09.03 | Syzgyn | really? |
| 07:09.35 | Kemayo | Looking at the realm forums, anyway. I haven't gone and checked. |
| 07:09.49 | Kemayo | It's the new realm -- they opened it something like 3 days ago. |
| 07:11.17 | Syzgyn | It's not on the war effort rank page |
| 07:12.27 | Syzgyn | looks like you're right |
| 07:12.37 | Syzgyn | or at least thats what everyone on the forums seems to think |
| 07:12.47 | Syzgyn | I was under the impression that all new realms started with the gates open |
| 07:16.03 | Kemayo | Well, I'm starting a new toon there regardless. It'd be nice to get the old-school levelling up experience, with level-appropriate instance groups... |
| 07:17.00 | Syzgyn | no thanks |
| 07:17.17 | Syzgyn | I like not having to grind at 40 for a regular mount |
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| 07:19.55 | Kemayo | Pfft, killjoy. :-P |
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| 07:21.17 | Syzgyn | Bah, I forget how to get a unit ID out of its GUID |
| 07:23.33 | Shirik | is there a slash command to loot? |
| 07:23.50 | Syzgyn | not that I'm aware of |
| 07:23.52 | Cairenn | don't think so |
| 07:24.50 | Kemayo | To the best of my knowledge there's no way to do it other than clicking. |
| 07:25.08 | Syzgyn | yeah |
| 07:26.25 | Shirik | I can't click them >.> |
| 07:26.29 | Shirik | don't know what happened |
| 07:27.47 | Syzgyn | lag? |
| 07:28.36 | art3mis | i just won the game! |
| 07:29.38 | Syzgyn | grats! |
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| 07:43.54 | batrick | Shirik: pong |
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| 07:46.53 | Shirik | batrick |
| 07:47.05 | Shirik | in a MOSFET, does current flow from the gate to.... whatever one of the other two pins are >< |
| 07:48.38 | batrick | that question sorta doesn't make sense |
| 07:48.48 | Shirik | ok well, in a BJT |
| 07:49.04 | Shirik | the current flowing from base to emitter controls the current flowing from collecter to emitter, right? |
| 07:49.08 | batrick | If only I could draw you a picture, but my paint skills are nonexistant |
| 07:49.28 | Shirik | in a MOSFET, the gate controls the source and the drain, right? |
| 07:49.33 | Shirik | But does current flow? |
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| 07:49.35 | batrick | no |
| 07:49.39 | Shirik | oh... |
| 07:49.39 | batrick | the gate is your output |
| 07:49.41 | Shirik | ok then >< |
| 07:49.43 | batrick | err |
| 07:49.49 | batrick | one second |
| 07:50.28 | batrick | yes gate would be your input |
| 07:50.36 | batrick | but current doesn't flow from the gate |
| 07:50.41 | batrick | it flows from Vhi |
| 07:51.04 | Shirik | ok and that current is controlled by the voltage at the gate? |
| 07:51.23 | batrick | yes |
| 07:51.36 | Shirik | that's probably what I should be using, not BJTs :/ |
| 07:52.24 | batrick | well, a MOSFET doesn't actually let current flow except during switching |
| 07:52.37 | batrick | the transfer curve looks like a bell curve for current to Vin |
| 07:52.56 | Shirik | if it doesn't let current flow... how does it operate like a switch? |
| 07:53.17 | batrick | there is a voltage change at that node |
| 07:53.29 | Shirik | ah |
| 07:53.42 | batrick | I think I mispoke |
| 07:53.50 | batrick | current flows from source to drain during switching |
| 07:53.55 | batrick | and it's a rather large spike |
| 07:54.12 | Shirik | yeah but I need it to stay on or off |
| 07:54.32 | Shirik | that is, to allow maybe 70mA to flow |
| 07:55.00 | batrick | I don't know, i'd need to look at this shitty book I left at home |
| 07:55.08 | Shirik | heh |
| 07:55.11 | Shirik | I can go read mine later |
| 07:55.12 | Shirik | thanks though |
| 07:55.16 | batrick | wikipedia doesn't have the technical info i need |
| 07:55.28 | Shirik | at least I know there is enough of a difference between BJTs and MOSFETs to assume that I don't know anything about them |
| 07:56.25 | batrick | explain what you want I probably can help you I found the equations i need |
| 07:56.56 | Shirik | ok I know I've told you about my safety switch |
| 07:57.04 | batrick | yes |
| 07:57.07 | Shirik | I have a signal coming in, when it goes low I need to trip a relay |
| 07:57.21 | Shirik | the relay will keep itself on - I just need it to be tripped for maybe a millisecond minimum |
| 07:57.54 | Shirik | anyway, thing is, I have THREE signals I need to watch - if one of them is high and the other two are low, then I need at least about 60mA to flow across this circuit which goes through the relay (150 ohm) |
| 07:58.08 | batrick | so when the gate voltage is low, you want 70ma to flow |
| 07:58.18 | batrick | ? |
| 07:58.32 | Shirik | well, there's 3 signals coming in |
| 07:58.38 | Shirik | when one of them is high and the other two are low |
| 07:58.55 | Shirik | and it's "at least" 70mA to flow |
| 07:59.02 | Shirik | the actual current doesn't matter so long as it's higher than that |
| 07:59.04 | batrick | give me a boolean equation for these inputs |
| 07:59.30 | Shirik | V+T'A' |
| 07:59.39 | Shirik | == V+(T+A)' |
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| 08:02.43 | batrick | what p/n channel transistors are you using |
| 08:06.52 | cladhaire | oh you silly chip monkeys :P |
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| 08:17.30 | Cairenn | That's such a good movie - "A Few Good Men" |
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| 08:18.11 | Cairenn | "I want the truth!" "You can't handle the truth!" |
| 08:19.37 | batrick | i think i might get a really good organ for 120$ |
| 08:30.11 | batrick | someone name something cpu intensive that involves lots of adding and multiplying loops |
| 08:30.19 | batrick | in loops* |
| 08:30.43 | kd3 | factorials |
| 08:31.38 | batrick | nah, much worse |
| 08:37.23 | Antiarc | Texture blending :P |
| 08:37.42 | Antiarc | Render multiple semi-transparent textures over each other |
| 08:37.50 | Antiarc | Granted, a good app will use the GPU for that |
| 08:37.54 | Antiarc | But it's a hell of a lot of math :P |
| 08:38.20 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 08:38.24 | Antiarc | Fractal computation |
| 08:38.25 | Antiarc | There you go |
| 08:39.54 | batrick | No I need something I can implement in an hour or two |
| 08:40.20 | batrick | matrix manipulation isn't new and exciitng... i'm looking for something different |
| 08:41.59 | Kalroth | http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/articles/eng/2551.htm batrick |
| 08:45.00 | Shirik | batrick: mersenne primes |
| 08:45.11 | Shirik | typical CPU stress test |
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| 08:53.34 | batrick | Kalroth: /sigh |
| 08:54.15 | Kalroth | What?! |
| 08:54.33 | batrick | 1 to 2 hours, not weeks |
| 08:54.45 | Kalroth | I thought you knew how to code? |
| 08:56.15 | Kalroth | batrick: http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/calculate-pi-to-arbitrary-precision-sample-java-code/ |
| 08:56.55 | Kalroth | and I quote; "This is just an example. I use it to load test my server." |
| 08:56.59 | Kalroth | There you go, baby! |
| 08:57.08 | batrick | thanks sweety |
| 08:57.39 | batrick | it's too bad I'd need a string to represent it |
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| 08:58.04 | Kalroth | why? |
| 08:58.19 | batrick | I'm doing this in C |
| 08:58.36 | batrick | something 1 million digits long obviously can't be stored in an int/double |
| 08:59.01 | batrick | and differentiating between int and floating point arithmetic is one thing I'm setting out to do |
| 09:04.57 | Shirik | I'm an idiot |
| 09:06.12 | Shirik | however, I realized the mistake afterwards |
| 09:06.26 | Kalroth | Too late, you can't take back what you said. |
| 09:06.33 | Shirik | so you all will never know that I responded to a post that was actually a keylogger |
| 09:06.37 | Shirik | he had a really good story attached to it |
| 09:28.20 | batrick | haha |
| 09:34.12 | art3mis | wanna see what fun adsense can be? |
| 09:34.20 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca |
| 09:34.49 | Shirik | night everyone |
| 09:35.05 | Shirik|zZz | Hey art3mis |
| 09:35.13 | Shirik|zZz | have you ever heard of "Xtreme Protector v1.05" ? |
| 09:36.02 | Shirik|zZz | k guess he's gone |
| 09:36.03 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 09:36.06 | art3mis | hi |
| 09:36.19 | art3mis | in the context of haxxoring? |
| 09:36.32 | art3mis | or rather messing with warden |
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| 09:44.41 | Shirik|zZz | art3mis: No, in the context of someone trying to post an exe to wowinterface and me trying to see wtf it was, and me running a tool on it which states that the file was encrypted and appears to have been encrypted with "Xtreme Protected v1.05" |
| 09:46.49 | Shirik|zZz | It says 98.2% sure of Xtreme Protector v1.05. 68% sure of tElock v0.98 |
| 09:46.54 | Shirik|zZz | So it's probably one of those two |
| 09:47.01 | Shirik|zZz | and then I need to figure out how to decrypt it |
| 09:47.19 | Shirik|zZz | But first, I shall sleep. Night! |
| 09:49.34 | Shirik|zZz | wow, today's xkcd confuses me |
| 09:54.12 | batrick | so i did manual loop unrolling on this critical loop |
| 09:54.21 | batrick | and program time increased |
| 09:54.23 | batrick | so awesome |
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| 10:03.56 | batrick | actually |
| 10:03.58 | batrick | this is great |
| 10:04.07 | batrick | I have an example of where loop unrolling is useless |
| 10:14.08 | wereHamster | the compiler knows when unrolling loops makes them faster, so I wouldn't do it myself |
| 10:14.31 | nevcairiel | the compiler cant effectively unroll dynamic loops tho |
| 10:15.19 | wereHamster | batrick, did you take a look at the assembly the compiler produces in both cases? |
| 10:16.53 | batrick | I don't need to I understand why |
| 10:17.26 | batrick | the array offset isn't constant, so the loop unrolling doesn't benefit at all |
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| 10:49.44 | Thrae | Shirik|zZz: Gah, WoW UI Manager doesn't like any of my addons. |
| 10:50.15 | clad|office | Thrae: what do you mean? |
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| 10:51.18 | clad|office | what kind of problems are you having? |
| 10:51.36 | Thrae | It still can't find the UIDs of any of the addons I have installed, like Bongos2. |
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| 10:52.08 | Thrae | I thought Shirik's latest version can parse for the UIDs? |
| 10:52.22 | clad|office | are they your favorites |
| 10:52.24 | clad|office | that's what it uses |
| 10:52.44 | Thrae | No...I guess I'll have to do that then. |
| 10:52.48 | clad|office | it doesn't try to search the entire site, since that would amount to a ddos |
| 10:53.04 | clad|office | just add em as favs on wowi |
| 10:53.06 | clad|office | and they show up |
| 10:53.30 | foxlit | Hm, it can't actually be that hard |
| 10:53.53 | foxlit | dump every id and ever mod name into a text file, zip it -- bound to be quite small :) |
| 10:54.10 | clad|office | name is not unique |
| 10:54.11 | clad|office | far from it |
| 10:54.24 | clad|office | favorites isn't unreasonable |
| 10:54.32 | clad|office | ostensibly, you'd want them tagged somewhere anyway |
| 10:54.48 | foxlit | It results in better behavior, though |
| 10:54.59 | clad|office | and uses heuristics |
| 10:55.02 | foxlit | as opposed to "I don't know what you wanted", you'd get "Did you want one of those?" |
| 10:55.03 | clad|office | favorites is always correct |
| 10:55.03 | Thrae | Still, requiring you to mark an addon as your "favourites" when it isn't causes addons to get unreasonable reputations |
| 10:55.30 | Thrae | Bongos2 might be a "favourite" of mine, but I'm just testing out Healbot Continued and don't really consider it a "favourite". |
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| 11:02.51 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | WoW programming book http://tinyurl.com/2gdel9 | "Cynically speaking, one could say that it is true to life to be cynical about it." - Paul Tillich |
| 11:03.15 | [dRaCo] | something like another "favorite" list... like favorites, only not. |
| 11:03.21 | clad|office | i didn't say i liekd it |
| 11:03.25 | clad|office | i just said why it was the case |
| 11:04.23 | clad|office | in my understanding |
| 11:04.25 | clad|office | class time |
| 11:04.41 | batrick | bye |
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| 11:50.53 | Falcon213 | >=[ |
| 11:51.30 | Falcon213 | came back to work on my raidtargets mod, and now I set the secure buttons statically, out of combat, but they still won't target |
| 11:51.34 | Falcon213 | mobFrames[n]:SetAttribute("unit", "raid" .. n .. "target");mobFrames[n]:SetAttribute("type", "target") |
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| 12:00.37 | batrick | Shirik|zZz: ping? |
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| 12:43.31 | [Liquidor] | http://i27.tinypic.com/i6cp6a.jpg -- Any suggestions to what addon I could use for my ChatFrame? Same issue with my twink: http://i27.tinypic.com/svosoo.jpg |
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| 13:05.11 | break19 | I dont see the updater as an installer.. but as an updater... |
| 13:08.38 | [dRaCo] | what's wrong with the chat frame |
| 13:08.39 | [dRaCo] | ? |
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| 13:29.46 | Baldor | try prat, ochat or pchat? |
| 13:30.09 | Baldor | http://ixo.no/cgit/cgit.cgi?r=oChat.git for ochat. |
| 13:30.11 | Baldor | http://code.google.com/p/p3lim/wiki/pChat for pchat |
| 13:30.19 | Baldor | and prat can be found on wowace |
| 13:30.47 | nevcairiel | isnt pChat just a ripoff of oChat again? |
| 13:31.00 | Tem|AFK | probably |
| 13:31.02 | Baldor | probably, just throwing out suggestions |
| 13:31.26 | nevcairiel | i should use a stricter license on my upcomming mods :) |
| 13:31.40 | [dRaCo] | basically, anything named *Chat :P |
| 13:32.25 | nevcairiel | haha anything named p* is a o* ripoff |
| 13:32.30 | nevcairiel | if you look at his gcode page |
| 13:32.50 | nevcairiel | oh some stuff are from tekkub too :P |
| 13:36.54 | haste | yeh, p3lim can't code |
| 13:36.56 | haste | only modify |
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| 13:47.24 | haste | wat |
| 13:47.31 | Fisker- | nevcairiel did it |
| 13:51.32 | sag_ich_nicht | we got SPELL_SUMMON and SPELL_CREAT? fuck yes, now let us track lifebloom and PoM properly and i might be able to actually get accurate numbers! |
| 13:51.43 | sag_ich_nicht | +E |
| 13:54.19 | nevcairiel | who needs accurate healing numbers |
| 13:54.34 | Fisker- | Blizzard |
| 13:54.37 | nevcairiel | but they wont do it for PoM/Earthshield/PoM |
| 13:54.42 | Fisker- | Then they wouldn't be buffing druids and priests |
| 13:54.46 | nevcairiel | because thats how the game mechanic works |
| 13:55.37 | Atriace | I want to see a crown on priests again. |
| 13:55.51 | Fisker- | well you could technically still let the mechanics be the same while still making it possible to track |
| 13:55.55 | Fisker- | again? |
| 13:55.57 | Fisker- | It never left |
| 13:56.09 | nevcairiel | priests never had the crown :P |
| 13:56.20 | Fisker- | You guys are just QQ'ing because your healingmeters don't track other op heals |
| 13:56.43 | Atriace | Ever since TBC, it's only been Druids and Shamans that always heal the most (that I've seen) |
| 13:56.58 | nevcairiel | l2coh |
| 13:57.56 | nevcairiel | Anyway, its silly to say priests should be best on healing just because they're priests "the healer class" |
| 13:58.06 | Atriace | Well |
| 13:58.28 | nevcairiel | nature power > holy power |
| 13:58.36 | nevcairiel | thats why druid+shamans > priests and pallys :P |
| 13:58.48 | Fisker- | remember to stick palas in the bottom |
| 13:59.05 | nevcairiel | anyway, a good priest can as well top the healing charts |
| 13:59.13 | nevcairiel | with CoH easily too |
| 14:00.58 | Atriace | It's a matter of principle. I just don't think hybrids should naturally outperform pure-breeds. It's just not right. |
| 14:01.18 | [dRaCo] | priests aren't pure-breeds |
| 14:01.30 | [dRaCo] | shadow is a viable option |
| 14:01.34 | nevcairiel | if you would be pure, shadow priests wouldnt exist in raids |
| 14:02.05 | Atriace | Holy priests are pure-breeds. Shadow simply became a viable alt-form. |
| 14:02.28 | kd3 | whee waking up to a roommate freaking out because the fire alarm's going off downstairs and he called 911 before walking inside to turn off the oven and nearly getting a fire truck called |
| 14:02.29 | Atriace | As much as Warriors are pure-breed tanks, that gained dps viability. |
| 14:02.38 | kd3 | s/downstairs/next door/ |
| 14:02.42 | Fisker- | Because everyone should be viable in DPS |
| 14:02.52 | Fisker- | so that's why all healers should also be viable in healing |
| 14:02.59 | nevcairiel | A druid originally was a pure healer, with TBC they got tanking and melee dps viable too |
| 14:03.14 | sag_ich_nicht | bullshit |
| 14:03.22 | nevcairiel | before BC you didnt see many ferals |
| 14:03.28 | Atriace | too true |
| 14:03.33 | sag_ich_nicht | druids tanked fine before TBC, you just had to l2p to do so |
| 14:03.55 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: they still were no warrior replacement equip wise |
| 14:03.59 | Atriace | That'd be once in a blue moon you'd see that prior to TBC. |
| 14:04.05 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel heh |
| 14:04.16 | nevcairiel | itemization for ferals sucked before tbc |
| 14:04.43 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 14:04.44 | nevcairiel | itemization for any hybrids did tho =P |
| 14:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | our MT will tell you differently :P |
| 14:04.59 | [dRaCo] | itemization for most hybrids still sucks :( |
| 14:05.08 | sag_ich_nicht | she's been feral before BC and she tanked just fine :P |
| 14:05.09 | nevcairiel | ferals get pretty good gear now |
| 14:05.18 | [dRaCo] | most |
| 14:05.35 | nevcairiel | so do tanking pallys |
| 14:05.38 | nevcairiel | and shadow priests |
| 14:05.49 | [dRaCo] | but neither enhancement shamans nor ret palas |
| 14:05.54 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 14:06.06 | sag_ich_nicht | !c EU Gul'dan Ruknor |
| 14:06.10 | WoWLuaircBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (5/8/48). 9167 HP; 5703 Mana; 91 mana regen; 2 mp5; 9986 Armour; 1756 AP; 272.900 Melee DPS; 30.31% melee crit; 96 melee hit; 136 +spell dmg/heal; 7.77% dodge; 5.00% block; 28 resilience;[[ TBR: 1401 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmjmj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uynsq ][ Updated: Mon Mar 3 09:15:50 2008 EST ]] |
| 14:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | my gear is just fine |
| 14:06.34 | nevcairiel | its not as good as other gear tho |
| 14:06.36 | sag_ich_nicht | and that's 2020 AP selfbuffed with imp. BoM :P |
| 14:06.39 | nevcairiel | 2.4 fixes t6 ret |
| 14:06.40 | nevcairiel | for example |
| 14:06.51 | sag_ich_nicht | no it doesn't |
| 14:07.05 | sag_ich_nicht | the T6 4p setbonus is a piece of shit |
| 14:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | it's completely useless |
| 14:07.32 | sag_ich_nicht | it fixes the stats for most other ret items tho |
| 14:07.34 | nevcairiel | my set bonus could be better too, but thats a pointless discussion :P |
| 14:07.38 | [dRaCo] | nevcairiel: yeah, but took 'em long enough |
| 14:08.03 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: no i mean, it is LITERALLY pointless, hammer of wrath resets the swingtimer. i use a 3.8 weapon. |
| 14:08.04 | sag_ich_nicht | gg |
| 14:08.13 | Fisker- | The T5 holy paladin setbonuses is gay |
| 14:08.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- atm it is, but considering the spellhaste changes in 2.4 i don't think it's _that_ bad anymore, it's still shitty tho |
| 14:09.15 | Fisker- | it's too situational regardless |
| 14:09.15 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/t6v3_paladin.jpg .. hmm looking at that, set bonus is different :p |
| 14:09.23 | Fisker- | I only spam holy light in emergencies |
| 14:09.33 | nevcairiel | you just have to know when to use it :D |
| 14:09.37 | Fisker- | i can't dictate when the emergencies are so i'm pretty fucked |
| 14:09.43 | nevcairiel | after a swing :) |
| 14:10.20 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: no, it's a waste of DPS |
| 14:10.46 | sag_ich_nicht | it's been calc'd over and over on EJ, it's a completely pointless and useless setbonus |
| 14:11.15 | sag_ich_nicht | also 2.4 doesn't change the fact that horde ret paladins are favored by easily over 200 dps just because they have SoB |
| 14:11.34 | sag_ich_nicht | and this gets worse in 2.4 with all the new +haste plate |
| 14:12.13 | nevcairiel | SoB is rather circumstancial .. cant use everywhere |
| 14:12.19 | nevcairiel | unless you get a shadow priest to heal you : |
| 14:12.34 | sag_ich_nicht | SoB can be used just fine, CoH and chain heal is ftw |
| 14:13.03 | nevcairiel | what do alliance get instead of sob? |
| 14:13.59 | sag_ich_nicht | seal of vengeance, a tanking seal who's proc rate is too low to be useful |
| 14:14.42 | sag_ich_nicht | it's good for bosses if you know what you're doing but it requires a slow 1h weapon, which then again sucks because of misses, etc. |
| 14:16.08 | sag_ich_nicht | actually in 9/10 bossfights i'm perma-hp capped and wish dark runes were easier to get hold of |
| 14:18.34 | Industrial | hm, there is no such thing as a player nameplate? |
| 14:18.39 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:19.13 | sag_ich_nicht | huh? |
| 14:19.26 | sag_ich_nicht | oh you mean |
| 14:19.30 | sag_ich_nicht | for the player himself |
| 14:19.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well no |
| 14:19.34 | Industrial | yes |
| 14:19.35 | sag_ich_nicht | get a hud. |
| 14:19.36 | Industrial | aw |
| 14:19.45 | Industrial | I dont like huds |
| 14:19.51 | sag_ich_nicht | neither do i. |
| 14:20.26 | Industrial | I'm trying out using nameplates namely (:p) for pvp but im wondering how that will affect my screen as I always look at my own hp too |
| 14:21.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial did you check out Aloft? |
| 14:22.06 | Industrial | im trying Shadowed's nameplate addon |
| 14:25.10 | Atriace | How would you pass an event argument to your OnUpdate() function? |
| 14:25.59 | Atriace | I mean, I know how to pass an argument, but OnUpdate is always going. The event would fire once and then.... |
| 14:26.19 | Industrial | OnEvent ? |
| 14:26.46 | sag_ich_nicht | don't use OnUpdate, use OnEvent D: |
| 14:27.18 | Atriace | I need OnUpdate to animate. |
| 14:27.32 | Atriace | Using an argument from the event fired. |
| 14:27.54 | Baldor | couldn't you just place your playerframe over your head? :S |
| 14:27.54 | Maldivia | Atriace: set a variable, and read it from the OnUpdate |
| 14:28.06 | Industrial | what Maldivia said |
| 14:28.17 | Industrial | Baldor: I could :p |
| 14:28.26 | Atriace | Maldivia: it'd have to be a global at that point, no? |
| 14:28.27 | Industrial | Baldor: already decided that plates are not my thing tho |
| 14:28.40 | Industrial | Atriace: no, just known inside/before the onupdate function |
| 14:28.55 | Industrial | local a; function OnUpdate() if a=blah then end end; |
| 14:29.09 | Atriace | ah, that'll work. |
| 14:29.30 | Atriace | I've been doing too much inside functions... sigh. |
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| 14:32.56 | Atriace | Is there a way to declare variables with all the possible UnitIDs without having to spell out each UnitID? |
| 14:33.23 | Atriace | Like a recursive declaration till end of UnitID list? |
| 14:35.23 | Baldor | Industrial: yea, it takes some getting used to, but they're invaluable in nagrand around those pillars. |
| 14:36.09 | Industrial | and im hunter :P |
| 14:36.26 | Industrial | I dont play arena (yet?) tho |
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| 14:47.15 | break19 | Industrial: how does shadowed's nameplate addon, compare to, say aloft? I've never used either, but thinking about doing so... |
| 14:47.29 | Industrial | never tried aloft so :p |
| 14:47.45 | break19 | well hell, you aint no help. lol |
| 14:48.00 | Industrial | :x |
| 14:48.15 | Industrial | any hunters here? I'm thinking of speccing MM for a while |
| 14:48.20 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cZE0VREz0xoxMhhrtb0z |
| 14:48.24 | Industrial | that any good? |
| 14:48.32 | Atriace | Break19: I use Aloft, but never heard of Shadowed's nameplate addon. |
| 14:49.07 | break19 | Industrial: what's your 'intent' with him? |
| 14:49.27 | Industrial | pvp |
| 14:50.00 | Industrial | all I do now with bm is pop my red IWIN button and dps as I do in pve and run :| |
| 14:50.21 | Industrial | and lose or pot shot ppl at low health :p |
| 14:50.26 | Industrial | go honor! not. |
| 14:51.42 | Industrial | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Boulderfist&n=Seryan |
| 14:53.23 | break19 | Industrial: to be honest, I dont use counterattack, or deterrence |
| 14:54.28 | Industrial | yeah but where would you put it? improved wing clip 3/3 ? |
| 14:55.00 | break19 | Industrial: this is what I'd do: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cZE0VoVuhestMhMhx |
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| 14:55.06 | Rinor | Maldivia? :) |
| 14:56.38 | break19 | remember, in pvp, threat doesnt matter.. so if you're smart, you'll be using multi-shot every time it's available. and with viper aspect up, mana is never an issue, so I didnt bother with the -manacost talents either.. |
| 14:58.31 | break19 | but honestly.. BM is a very good pvp build as well.. just gotta remember to always play to your spec's strength.. BM hunters basically kite while their pet beats the crap out of em MM just goes fullbore dps and hope to win the dps race.. survivalist hopes to outlast them. |
| 14:58.34 | [dRaCo] | mana is never an issue? drain team, anyone? |
| 14:58.35 | Maldivia | Rinor: ? |
| 14:58.43 | Rinor | yeah |
| 14:58.47 | break19 | [dRaCo]: he didnt say armory.. :p |
| 14:58.53 | break19 | err arena.. |
| 14:58.55 | Rinor | hey Maldivia, just typing you a PM ;P |
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| 14:59.29 | [dRaCo] | who plays BGs anyway? |
| 14:59.30 | break19 | in arena, yea, I'd add a little more -manacost stuff, probably at the cost of imp barrage |
| 14:59.37 | break19 | I do. |
| 14:59.42 | [dRaCo] | just BGs? |
| 14:59.45 | [dRaCo] | no arena? |
| 14:59.48 | break19 | nope. |
| 14:59.59 | break19 | arena teams are expensive.. and I'm a cheapass. heh |
| 15:00.03 | [dRaCo] | I'd bore to death :/ |
| 15:00.36 | break19 | besides.. I dont have the equipment to do arenas.. besides. my main isnt my hunter anymore. |
| 15:00.37 | [dRaCo] | I don't like BGs anymore since that AV exalted grind back in vanilla WoW |
| 15:01.07 | [dRaCo] | but I had to get the unstoppable force :D |
| 15:01.07 | nevcairiel | av exalted in vanilla wow wasnt that bad |
| 15:01.07 | nevcairiel | tbh |
| 15:01.14 | [dRaCo] | no, definitly doable |
| 15:01.41 | [dRaCo] | but there were too many stupid kiddies |
| 15:02.02 | nevcairiel | those are always there..^^ |
| 15:02.14 | [dRaCo] | yeah, that's why I don't enjoy BGs |
| 15:02.25 | [dRaCo] | in Raids or Arena, I can at least pick my team mates |
| 15:02.37 | Industrial | I dont enjoy bg because it takes fucking 50 av's to get you one piece of s1. I have two pieces now |
| 15:02.44 | Industrial | love ab tho |
| 15:02.49 | [dRaCo] | welfare epics :/ |
| 15:03.01 | Industrial | pf. i have to work less in kara kthx |
| 15:03.12 | Industrial | just mash my dps button |
| 15:04.04 | nevcairiel | one dps button? warlock or hunter ? :P |
| 15:04.09 | [dRaCo] | tbh, I kinda hate huntards with s1 complete, honor stuff complete and green trinkets |
| 15:04.23 | [dRaCo] | too stupid to gear up properly |
| 15:04.30 | Industrial | nevcairiel: hunter |
| 15:04.55 | [dRaCo] | Seen one lately with strength gems in his S1 gear |
| 15:05.55 | Industrial | [dRaCo]: i dont even have s1 complete so that makes me stupid? just because I play hunter? how did you get to wherever you are with your geaR? did you ever wear s1 at some point or did your guild run you through instances so you could skip it? |
| 15:06.32 | Industrial | you cant say i dont work for my shit :p |
| 15:06.33 | [dRaCo] | no, it doesnt make you stupid. |
| 15:06.43 | Industrial | < [dRaCo]> too stupid to gear up properly |
| 15:07.00 | Industrial | o please tell me how to gear up properly |
| 15:07.12 | [dRaCo] | na, you're not getting my point |
| 15:07.18 | Industrial | I get wasted in 2 seconds in arena. how am I to get points? |
| 15:07.24 | Industrial | with.. better gear! |
| 15:07.31 | [dRaCo] | I'm not saying every hunter in S1 is stupid |
| 15:08.02 | [dRaCo] | but the ones who grinded to 70 and then afk'd in AV until they could buy S1 |
| 15:08.30 | [dRaCo] | and btw, I got there by running instances, for weeks. was one of the first 70 chars on my server |
| 15:08.40 | [dRaCo] | and yes, I wore S1... in S1 :P |
| 15:08.43 | break19 | why afk as a hunter? just as easy to stand in your boss's room and arcane shot anyone who peeks around to look at the boss :) |
| 15:09.01 | [dRaCo] | I dunno why they do that, but they do that. |
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| 15:09.38 | sioraiocht | hi clad|office |
| 15:09.47 | Industrial | I never defend av :p |
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| 15:12.03 | [dRaCo] | those hunters in S1 keep bugging me to take them to gruul or w/e since now they've got purplz... but still no fucking clue on how to dps :/ |
| 15:12.21 | [dRaCo] | if you do, you're clearly not one of 'those' |
| 15:13.23 | [dRaCo] | I tend to generalize, sorry. |
| 15:13.39 | Industrial | :p |
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| 15:14.17 | [dRaCo] | there's just too many of 'em on my server |
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| 15:19.46 | Industrial | ok so 0/46/15 it is |
| 15:20.27 | [dRaCo] | it's a nice spec unless you encounter a lolstep rogue |
| 15:22.17 | Atriace | Can you print the globals table to chat window? |
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| 15:23.21 | Atriace | nm |
| 15:23.24 | Atriace | Found it. |
| 15:25.18 | Industrial | wouldnt do it |
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| 15:38.44 | Atriace | horror! |
| 15:39.00 | Lopeppeppy | The shame! |
| 15:39.20 | Atriace | you can't specify a global variable's name by using a function argument!? |
| 15:39.37 | Atriace | i.e., arg1_isDancing |
| 15:40.05 | dylanm | What |
| 15:40.54 | Atriace | Lets say you have a function which takes 1 argument (which happens to be your target). You specify a global var inside the function using the argument as part of the global name |
| 15:41.20 | Atriace | ergo, arg1_isDancing=1 should result in target_isDancing=1 |
| 15:41.34 | Atriace | but arg1_isDancing ? target_isDancing |
| 15:41.36 | dylanm | You don't magically turn a string into a variable name like that. |
| 15:41.58 | dylanm | Is it even a string? |
| 15:42.10 | Atriace | the argument is a string |
| 15:42.12 | dylanm | Because then you do _G[arg1 .. "_isDancing"] |
| 15:42.31 | dylanm | arg1_anythinghere is a completely different variable. |
| 15:42.47 | Atriace | Thanks Dylanm |
| 15:43.08 | dylanm | No problem! |
| 15:43.10 | Atriace | but.... isn't arg1 not a global? |
| 15:43.17 | Atriace | if a function argument? |
| 15:43.56 | dylanm | Of course it isn't a global. |
| 15:44.08 | Atriace | but.... isn't _G = getglobal? |
| 15:44.09 | dylanm | That doesn't matter. You just want to construct a name. |
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| 15:44.56 | Atriace | well, as long as it gets the job done |
| 15:45.13 | dylanm | It's good to understand it. |
| 15:46.20 | dylanm | lua> a=1 do local b="a" print(_G[b]) end |
| 15:46.21 | lua_bot | dylanm: 1 |
| 15:48.48 | Baldor | anybody knows of an addon that just tracks incomming / outgoing AH money? |
| 15:49.00 | kd3 | beancounter? |
| 15:49.43 | Baldor | hm, not quite like that. I'd like to keep track of my total money over a period of time, so to speak |
| 15:49.57 | Baldor | beancounter just keeps track of what you buy/sell items for, right? |
| 15:50.10 | Lopeppeppy | I know lots that count all money, but none that just track *auction* profits |
| 15:51.01 | Baldor | any recomendations that are clean, simple and dont require me to have fubar |
| 15:53.13 | [dRaCo] | all fubar-plugins work without fubar |
| 15:53.24 | Lopeppeppy | True. |
| 15:53.42 | Lopeppeppy | I use MoneyFu. |
| 15:53.53 | [dRaCo] | so get moneyFu, attach it to your minimap and be happy |
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| 16:09.37 | art3mis | meh this sucks i need to get some aleve |
| 16:09.49 | art3mis | sleeping in 2 hour chunks sucks crap |
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| 16:11.14 | cog|work | art3mis: nyquil imo |
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| 16:13.33 | break19 | he wants to sleep, not pass out drunk. :p |
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| 16:14.18 | cog|work | 1/2 dose then :P |
| 16:15.38 | break19 | I dont "dose" when I take nyquil.. I just take a swig as if I'm a drunken streetbum with a 5th of whisky. |
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| 16:22.01 | cog|work | Same here, but only 'cause i'm good at estimating a tbsp :P |
| 16:22.38 | cog|work | someone in my family nearly died from a tylenol overdose a couple years ago so i'm not too keen on downing huge amounts at once... |
| 16:23.21 | cog|work | (tylenol being one of nyquil's ingredients) |
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| 16:34.58 | Atriace | Is there a way to always make 1 digit past the decimal show? |
| 16:35.05 | art3mis | i hate the skydome and the cn tower too i hate nathan phillips square and the ontario zoo |
| 16:35.41 | art3mis | cog|work: they mucked with the nyquil formula in the us, it doesnt have the same effect as the old stuff im used to and acido makes me sick |
| 16:35.56 | art3mis | cog|work: if since it cant knock me out as fast i end up just worse |
| 16:36.20 | cog|work | i think there's another product that reproduced the original nyquil recipe... |
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| 16:39.17 | Lopeppeppy | Buckley's kicks your ass, but it works. |
| 16:39.48 | art3mis | yeah but im not sick |
| 16:40.00 | art3mis | and im not gonna drink that if im not sick ;P |
| 16:40.06 | art3mis | no sir, nu uh |
| 16:40.53 | Lopeppeppy | It's nasty, but it works. I'm allergic to pine pollen, it's a major act of faith to take any of that crap due to the smell.... |
| 16:41.22 | art3mis | heh im canadian, i've long known the goodness of buckleys |
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| 16:41.44 | art3mis | but i was needing sleep not sickness cureing ;P |
| 16:41.52 | Lopeppeppy | Valerian/ |
| 16:41.53 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 16:42.01 | art3mis | need otc |
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| 16:43.28 | art3mis | ive got lunesta rx's if i wanna go get em, but i'd rather not get those since wifey likes eatting them all for no reason(because they max out at 5mg ingested, more doesnt mean more effective) |
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| 16:47.12 | Lopeppeppy | Valerian works well for me, totally otc. |
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| 17:21.09 | Shirik|Ecole | so apparently if you have a .doc file on your SVN |
| 17:21.11 | Shirik|Ecole | and you update it |
| 17:21.32 | Shirik|Ecole | TortoiseSVN, when you ask it for a diff, opens it in word with the little "track changes" thingy and marks everything that changed |
| 17:21.34 | Shirik|Ecole | that's awesome. |
| 17:22.06 | cog|work | <3 TortoiseSVN |
| 17:22.21 | nevcairiel | wow |
| 17:22.24 | nevcairiel | thats nice |
| 17:23.32 | TecnoBrat|Work | lol really? |
| 17:23.35 | TecnoBrat|Work | thats awesome |
| 17:23.57 | TecnoBrat|Work | doc files in your svn seems weird, but okay! :) |
| 17:24.23 | TecnoBrat|Work | well, it doesn't seem so weird now |
| 17:24.27 | TecnoBrat|Work | with that feature, lol |
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| 17:31.03 | Shirik|Ecole | tecnobrat: SDS, SRS, etc. |
| 17:31.07 | Shirik|Ecole | That's why they're there |
| 17:31.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I would prefer not to lose 70 page documents |
| 17:37.13 | Shirik|Ecole | My linear circuits professor is so strange |
| 17:37.19 | Shirik|Ecole | From his notes: "To understand what is mesh current, let us consider the basketball-dribbling problem below where a group of players practice dribbling in loops, as shown in Fig. 3.2(a)." |
| 17:37.39 | dylanm | Haha. |
| 17:37.46 | Shirik|Ecole | ... what does basketball have to do with this >< |
| 17:37.54 | Lopeppeppy | It's his hobby?> |
| 17:38.09 | art3mis | he likes it when grown men dribble |
| 17:38.14 | pastamancer | it beats "assume a spherical cow of uniform density" |
| 17:38.28 | Shirik|Ecole | "Suppose five players start from A, dribbling along the horizontal lane; at B, two players turn right and go down vertical lane BE, and three keep going forward and make a right turn at C. Then all the players join again at E and proceed to A. In this case, for each minute, there will be five basketballs dribbled from D to A, two from B to E, and three from C to F." |
| 17:38.34 | art3mis | he thats an old physics/math joke |
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| 17:39.03 | art3mis | "first lets assume the cow is spherical...." |
| 17:39.31 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 17:39.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sure the aerospace guys here wish they could do that |
| 17:42.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'd like a spherical steak... |
| 17:42.56 | Shirik|Ecole | go to disney world |
| 17:43.03 | Shirik|Ecole | they have mickey mouse shaped everything |
| 17:44.03 | art3mis | "bowling balls are incredibly sharp, you just never know where the edge is" |
| 17:44.07 | Lopeppeppy | Ick. No mouse surprise for me. |
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| 17:44.50 | Cairenn|afk | hey Malgayne |
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| 17:45.32 | Malgayne | morning. :) |
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| 17:47.42 | Shirik|Ecole | gotta run to class |
| 17:47.43 | Shirik|Ecole | take care |
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| 17:51.35 | art3mis | http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/magazine/02jewishness-t.html?ei=5088&en=44ecd3791c67f578&ex=1362114000&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all |
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| 18:17.07 | foxlit | Okay, question |
| 18:17.17 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, answer! |
| 18:17.28 | foxlit | t = "<html><body>%s</body></html>"; |
| 18:17.54 | foxlit | SimpleHTML:SetText(t:format("<p>One</p><p>Two</p>")); SimpleHTML:SetText(t:format("<p>One</p><br /><p>Two</p>")); |
| 18:18.04 | foxlit | The first case has no spacing between paragraphs |
| 18:18.18 | foxlit | The second case has excessively large spacing between paragraphs |
| 18:18.27 | foxlit | (> one line of ordinary text) |
| 18:19.09 | foxlit | That changed in 2.3, the previous behavior was to insert an equivalent of a single blank line. |
| 18:19.16 | foxlit | The question, then, is: What gives? |
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| 18:19.44 | Arrowmaster | try using <p></p> for a single blank line |
| 18:20.00 | nevcairiel | shouldnt <br /> just do that? |
| 18:20.01 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 18:20.05 | Arrowmaster | it should |
| 18:20.36 | Arrowmaster | although having <p>text</p><p>more text</p> you should already have a single blank line between them |
| 18:20.46 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 18:20.52 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 18:21.30 | foxlit | Blank paramgraphs have no effect |
| 18:21.37 | foxlit | paragramorphs! |
| 18:21.39 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 18:21.57 | nevcairiel | their HTML Renderer is weird |
| 18:22.00 | foxlit | Anyway, whitespace in p is ignored |
| 18:22.16 | foxlit | And causes the HTML parser to break altogether |
| 18:22.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:22.31 | nevcairiel | its a non-breaking space .. not a breaking one .. :P |
| 18:22.39 | Arrowmaster | you cant use ? |
| 18:23.01 | foxlit | It's more of a "You can't break at this space" :) |
| 18:23.15 | foxlit | s/e"/e" space/ |
| 18:23.25 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: no. |
| 18:23.32 | Arrowmaster | well a 'this is a space, but you cant wordwrap on it' |
| 18:23.38 | nevcairiel | it still breaks the parser, so the not-break is broken :P |
| 18:24.52 | nevcairiel | does it support style="white-space: nowrap;" ? |
| 18:25.17 | foxlit | hey |
| 18:25.22 | foxlit | That's CSS |
| 18:25.24 | Arrowmaster | does it support style at al? |
| 18:25.33 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 18:25.46 | foxlit | It supports it by ignoring it |
| 18:25.53 | nevcairiel | <nowrap> tag? |
| 18:25.58 | foxlit | as opposed to breaking and having you collect the pieces |
| 18:26.10 | foxlit | nev: no |
| 18:26.18 | nevcairiel | stupid simplehtml |
| 18:26.18 | foxlit | The wiki page on SimpleHTML is quite good |
| 18:26.24 | nevcairiel | just get a gecko engine in there |
| 18:27.00 | foxlit | Is it too late to post a "What have ou done to HTML rendering?" post in the 2.3 changes thread? :P |
| 18:27.04 | nevcairiel | according to that page, it doesnt even support <p> |
| 18:27.13 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
| 18:27.14 | nevcairiel | im blind |
| 18:28.21 | Arrowmaster | just create a new post and ask slouken whats up with <br /> |
| 18:28.42 | Arrowmaster | oh and does any &*; style stuff work? |
| 18:28.49 | foxlit | Some does, some does not |
| 18:29.02 | foxlit | In fact, let me just add that in there |
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| 19:03.50 | art3mis | mmm peanut butter and cheese whiz |
| 19:04.03 | Cairenn | ewwww |
| 19:05.17 | ralfWORK | is there at least a cracker in there? |
| 19:05.36 | art3mis | nope sammich |
| 19:05.41 | art3mis | its actually quite good cairenn |
| 19:05.41 | ralfWORK | oh k |
| 19:05.47 | Cairenn | ewwwww |
| 19:05.51 | art3mis | and you cant call yerself canadian if you havent tried it ;P |
| 19:06.00 | Cairenn | oh yes I can! |
| 19:06.06 | art3mis | its really yummy together for some odd reason |
| 19:06.09 | Cairenn | cheese whiz is just nasty |
| 19:06.09 | art3mis | nu uh! |
| 19:06.16 | ralfWORK | uh |
| 19:06.17 | Adys | Why would you want to call yourself canadian.. |
| 19:06.20 | art3mis | no wait cheese whiz is awesome |
| 19:06.29 | ralfWORK | I don't think I'd ever try to call myself canadian |
| 19:06.41 | Adys | Did I just get smacked by a canadian :( |
| 19:06.45 | art3mis | adys same reason you picked a mis spelling of a fata disease previous applied to the gay community |
| 19:06.51 | art3mis | fatal |
| 19:07.04 | Cairenn | yes, yes you did |
| 19:07.15 | Adys | Do you know what I am?! |
| 19:07.27 | Adys | I'm french, now canadians dont smack frenchies |
| 19:07.28 | art3mis | an immuno defect? |
| 19:07.35 | art3mis | bahahaha |
| 19:07.41 | Cairenn | Adys: I smack anyone that deserves it |
| 19:07.46 | art3mis | the french |
| 19:07.48 | art3mis | hahahah |
| 19:07.50 | Adys | French dont deserve it! |
| 19:08.18 | art3mis | ayds: the french dont deserve anythin, that doesnt stop them from QQing though ;P |
| 19:08.35 | Adys | lol |
| 19:08.52 | Adys | I'm right now QQing for a non grayed-out cancel button |
| 19:08.57 | art3mis | we wanna seperate.... give us 2 billion $'s to do it! |
| 19:09.15 | Adys | What's the point of putting a "Cancel" button on a very long install if its to gray it out all the way until the install is over |
| 19:09.25 | art3mis | to taunt you |
| 19:09.41 | art3mis | oh cairenn, you have to see this documentary called "Let's all Hate Toronto" |
| 19:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | Blame Canada |
| 19:09.49 | Cairenn | art3mis: lol |
| 19:09.55 | art3mis | ist amazingly funny |
| 19:10.21 | art3mis | they had a sign that says "I love toronto" and timd how long it took for someone to yell "toronto sucks" |
| 19:10.30 | art3mis | the longest gap of time was 12 seconds |
| 19:10.37 | ralfWORK | ROFL |
| 19:10.54 | art3mis | the also had a sign that read "honk of you love toronto" and it took 3 minutes on a busy street for a honk |
| 19:11.14 | art3mis | oh my god it was hilarious |
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| 19:11.41 | art3mis | title music was arrogant worms |
| 19:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: to annoy you endlessly |
| 19:12.06 | art3mis | i hate the skydome and the cn tower to, i hate nathan phillip square and the ontario zoo |
| 19:12.10 | Adys | no kidding :/ |
| 19:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: end process! |
| 19:13.04 | Adys | Rather let it go |
| 19:13.11 | Adys | just damn annoying |
| 19:13.31 | art3mis | http://www.letsallhateto.com/ |
| 19:14.32 | art3mis | why do all trees point west? because toronto sucks that much |
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| 19:15.35 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE |
| 19:17.38 | art3mis | ^^ thats some good watching |
| 19:17.52 | art3mis | special them labelling australia on the map as iran for the push pin |
| 19:18.21 | art3mis | Kafi Anan, is a coffee or a person? |
| 19:18.25 | kamdis | that's ebarrassing |
| 19:18.34 | art3mis | its amusing |
| 19:18.42 | art3mis | almost as rad as rick mercers talking to americans |
| 19:18.45 | kamdis | it makes me cringe. |
| 19:18.49 | art3mis | specially the mike huckabee part |
| 19:19.00 | kamdis | Of course, they don't show any of the people who got answers correct. |
| 19:19.12 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:19.26 | art3mis | rick mercers ends with a 5 year old calling his mom stupid and answering all the questions ;P |
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| 19:20.38 | art3mis | al-quedea is a wing of the masonic order |
| 19:20.56 | kd3 | nowai |
| 19:21.14 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyLtAPPynEQ <-- rick mercer ones |
| 19:21.18 | art3mis | parts 1-5 |
| 19:22.01 | kamdis | I can't take any more. |
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| 19:22.13 | art3mis | watch them! |
| 19:22.28 | art3mis | the rick mercer ones are awesome for the sole fact he's talking to politicians |
| 19:22.49 | art3mis | as well as the public and various students and proffs at the ivy league schools |
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| 19:25.30 | art3mis | congratulations canada on legalizing insulin |
| 19:25.36 | ralfWORK | orly? |
| 19:26.07 | art3mis | congratulations canada, 800miles of paved road! |
| 19:26.15 | ralfWORK | hahahhaah |
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| 19:28.11 | Shirik|Ecole | purl, ping |
| 19:28.12 | purl | pong |
| 19:28.56 | art3mis | congratulations canada on becoming part of north america |
| 19:30.41 | ralfWORK | since when! |
| 19:30.43 | art3mis | hi im governor mike huckabee, congratulations canada on preserving your national igloo |
| 19:33.57 | art3mis | congratulations canada on getting FM radio |
| 19:34.20 | art3mis | congratulations canada on getting grade 9 |
| 19:35.00 | |pez| | Aaah, the yearly seating process for The Gathering.... |
| 19:35.39 | art3mis | we feel that the 4 seasons dont accurately describe the 2 months of darkness that all of canada endures in the months of july and august, we've got 3 names "the slumber" "the equinox" and "canadark" which would you choose? |
| 19:35.54 | art3mis | "how about the montreal canadiens, thats pretty dark |
| 19:36.58 | art3mis | would you consider going to calgary and heading out out on a boat to the ice flows? |
| 19:37.16 | art3mis | congratulations canada on letting the irish vote |
| 19:38.07 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0juz1sT0TRE |
| 19:39.21 | ralfWORK | wtf |
| 19:39.35 | art3mis | it was a show that the university of calgary put on |
| 19:39.46 | art3mis | it ran for a whole 2 hours before they got shut down and expelled |
| 19:39.56 | ralfWORK | what about? |
| 19:40.17 | art3mis | it was a native radio station |
| 19:40.35 | art3mis | compelte with bad racial jokes stereotyping and funny accents |
| 19:41.54 | ralfWORK | ohhh |
| 19:45.19 | art3mis | http://brocket99.net/station.htm |
| 19:45.28 | art3mis | i kind of want the fuckin' whities hat |
| 19:47.52 | Industrial | Shirik|Ecole: ping |
| 19:51.48 | Industrial | Shirik|Ecole: about the wowui updater - its a download itself on the site right? can it update itself? :p |
| 19:52.33 | Industrial | Shirik|Ecole: also when you do install a new version it puts the start menu entry back in the default position and my renamed old one doesnt work anymore =/ |
| 19:56.13 | Industrial | oh, it also puts a shortcut on the desktop again :p |
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| 20:11.12 | Industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/43574/488d2199/hamster_vast_in_videogame.html |
| 20:11.15 | Industrial | CUUUUUUUTE |
| 20:11.17 | Industrial | ^______________________^ |
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| 20:20.43 | ralfWORK | lulz! |
| 20:21.56 | kamdis | Xinhuan, fwiw I agree about the bloat. |
| 20:22.06 | Xinhuan | /chuckle :) |
| 20:22.56 | kamdis | I wish I could turn off that part of Recount. |
| 20:23.00 | kamdis | oh well. |
| 20:23.08 | ralfWORK | what, the bloat part? |
| 20:23.14 | Xinhuan | oh it measures network traffic too! :) |
| 20:23.15 | kamdis | the threat part, specifically |
| 20:23.19 | kamdis | and that |
| 20:23.32 | kamdis | and anything that's not damage/healing related |
| 20:23.41 | ralfWORK | like dispel count? |
| 20:23.48 | ralfWORK | and number of rats killed? |
| 20:23.52 | kamdis | heh |
| 20:24.10 | Xinhuan | there's actually an addon on wowace that counts the number of rats killed :D |
| 20:24.13 | Xinhuan | and only rats |
| 20:24.31 | Xinhuan | it begins with RAT-something |
| 20:24.36 | ralfWORK | there's one that counts how many times you jump |
| 20:24.43 | kamdis | You have to do something to entertain yourself during the painful eleventy billionth run in KZ |
| 20:24.50 | ralfWORK | don't know if it counts NE flips or not though |
| 20:24.58 | Xinhuan | it doesn't really count jumps hehe |
| 20:25.03 | ralfWORK | YES IT DOES |
| 20:25.04 | kamdis | BE spins > NE flips. |
| 20:25.05 | Xinhuan | it just securehooks the Jump() function |
| 20:25.18 | Xinhuan | so its actually a counter for the number of times you hit the jump button (spacebar) |
| 20:25.22 | ralfWORK | you're no fun anymore :( |
| 20:25.29 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 20:26.02 | ralfWORK | let me have my fantasy |
| 20:26.18 | Xinhuan | i wonder which damage meter will turn out to be the "best" after 2.4 |
| 20:26.34 | Xinhuan | best, meaning accuracy |
| 20:26.39 | Xinhuan | of the numbers collected |
| 20:26.40 | kamdis | What do you use, Xinhuan? |
| 20:26.44 | ralfWORK | good question |
| 20:26.46 | kamdis | currently |
| 20:26.48 | Xinhuan | i use swsstats |
| 20:26.55 | ralfWORK | I'm looking forward to threat being built in |
| 20:26.59 | Xinhuan | mostly because |
| 20:27.00 | ralfWORK | (granted, that's not 2.4 but...) |
| 20:27.07 | Xinhuan | 2/3 of my guild/raid uses swstats |
| 20:27.17 | Xinhuan | so syncing would result in more accurate figures |
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| 20:27.58 | kamdis | yeah, that's why I have recount |
| 20:28.07 | kamdis | my guildies just LOVE it |
| 20:28.11 | ralfWORK | I used to use swstats |
| 20:28.14 | ralfWORK | using recount now |
| 20:28.15 | Xinhuan | shirik wait you you get the "; expected" errors :D |
| 20:28.16 | End | recount is pretty neat |
| 20:28.21 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: because Java, too, is looking to the stars |
| 20:28.46 | Xinhuan | i just took 2 minutes to figure out why the compiler is complaining about the variable "a" in "if a == b {blah blah}" |
| 20:29.39 | Xinhuan | kinda annoyed me that it didn't actually generate a "( expected" |
| 20:29.52 | Xinhuan | what else could follow the "if" keyword anyway, apart from a "(" |
| 20:30.12 | zenzelezz | which compiler? |
| 20:30.20 | Xinhuan | c++ |
| 20:30.30 | zenzelezz | that's not a compiler, it's a language |
| 20:30.46 | Xinhuan | right |
| 20:30.58 | Xinhuan | visual studio 8 to be exact |
| 20:30.59 | zenzelezz | VC++, Borland, GCC, ..? |
| 20:31.02 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 20:32.05 | Xinhuan | so is there anything that can actually follow a "if" that is not a "(" ? |
| 20:32.28 | Falcon213 | yes, a space, a tab, a return |
| 20:32.38 | Xinhuan | whitespace doesn't count ~_~ |
| 20:32.41 | Falcon213 | =P |
| 20:33.06 | wereHamster | Falcon213, by return you mean newline, right> |
| 20:33.08 | wereHamster | ? |
| 20:33.27 | Falcon213 | whatever you want to call it |
| 20:33.29 | TecnoBrat|Work | no |
| 20:33.33 | TecnoBrat|Work | he types <return> |
| 20:34.37 | wereHamster | it's 'enter' on my keyboard -.- |
| 20:35.01 | Falcon213 | windows is technically a newline and a return |
| 20:35.10 | Falcon213 | nix just newline |
| 20:35.17 | TecnoBrat|Work | if you wanna be a technical yea :P |
| 20:35.34 | wereHamster | not \r\n ? |
| 20:36.36 | TecnoBrat|Work | yea its \r\n |
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| 20:39.02 | zenzelezz | if you wanted to be technical it's "carriage return" and "line feed", not newline/return |
| 20:39.10 | Falcon213 | well these days windows can *usually* handle just a \n |
| 20:39.30 | Falcon213 | but that might be the compiler |
| 20:39.45 | Falcon213 | not sure tbh |
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| 21:22.34 | ScytheBlade1 | It should be reported as an X86 boot sector |
| 21:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Er whoops, wrong channel |
| 21:23.29 | Lopeppeppy | ... heh. *winks* |
| 21:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa, responses |
| 21:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: would be pretty trivial to find out ;) |
| 21:24.32 | zenzelezz | cogwheel has been known to be a bit trivial |
| 21:24.36 | Lopeppeppy | Cog isn't gonna go searching for answers, he prefers delivery-zen! |
| 21:26.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah well. His problem. :D |
| 21:27.00 | Lopeppeppy | delivery-zen comes with great chopsticks and a fortune cookie. |
| 21:27.34 | art3mis | what about duck sauce? |
| 21:28.18 | Xinhuan | curry sauce > duck sauce |
| 21:28.51 | art3mis | curry sauce is yucky on spring rolls/egg rolls though |
| 21:29.01 | Lopeppeppy | I like duck sauce. |
| 21:29.08 | Lopeppeppy | Should come with all happy meals |
| 21:29.13 | art3mis | speaking of wifey made the most awesome chicken curry last night |
| 21:29.23 | art3mis | err speaking of.... |
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| 21:31.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Well that took the channel interesting places. |
| 21:33.10 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: it would be trivial if i knew the second thing about IRC... |
| 21:33.21 | cog|work | (i only know the first thing) |
| 21:33.33 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: /whois |
| 21:33.47 | Xinhuan | secret revealed: cog knows his wow insideout, but fails at irc :) |
| 21:33.55 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:33.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, yeah |
| 21:34.04 | cog|work | Xinhuan: i fail at much of wow too |
| 21:34.14 | Xinhuan | modest! |
| 21:34.38 | cog|work | the only 70 raid i even know where it is is kara... |
| 21:35.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure you know where TK and SSC are |
| 21:35.14 | cog|work | i don't even know WHAT TK & SSC are... |
| 21:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay that's pretty bad |
| 21:35.42 | ScytheBlade1 | So if I may ask... what do you do, when you play? |
| 21:35.53 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 21:36.03 | cog|work | alts mostly |
| 21:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | (Aside from make addons :P) |
| 21:36.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I know a bunch of people who do that.. I kinda do it, but, not really |
| 21:36.30 | cog|work | i went on a pvp binge when i was burning out on the book |
| 21:36.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 2 70s and then... a 30 and a 12 |
| 21:36.34 | Xinhuan | what about Lopeppeppy? |
| 21:36.41 | Xinhuan | do you know what TK and SSC are? hehe |
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| 21:39.21 | ScytheBlade1 | For reference: TK (Tempest Keep) is the MASSIVE spaceship inbetween botanica and mechanar. Serpentshrine Cavern (SSC) is located behind the huge waterfall, as soon as you come up for air after diving down into Coilfang Reservoir |
| 21:40.13 | ralfWORK | BT/Kara/ZA are really the only ones that aren't near other 5-man stuff iirc |
| 21:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 21:40.43 | ScytheBlade1 | And even then, Black Temple is hard to miss... considering that the general area covers 1/5th of SMV |
| 21:40.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure the zone in sucks, but, at least people know where it is |
| 21:41.05 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 21:41.09 | Lopeppeppy | Xinhuan, I do raid on multiple characters on my main realm, as an officer of my raid group. Just because I love Cogwheel doesn't mean I don't know. |
| 21:41.17 | ralfWORK | I don't know where the actual BT entrance is... but I know the area |
| 21:41.24 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 21:41.33 | cog|work | ===ScytheBlade1 <n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1> “Death” |
| 21:41.34 | cog|work | ===ScytheBlade1: member of #wowi-lounge |
| 21:41.36 | cog|work | ===ScytheBlade1: attached to irc.freenode.net “http://freenode.net/” |
| 21:41.37 | cog|work | ===ScytheBlade1 is identified to services |
| 21:41.39 | cog|work | ---End of WHOIS information for ScytheBlade1. |
| 21:41.40 | cog|work | = no help |
| 21:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | what, weird |
| 21:42.00 | ScytheBlade1 | For me it lists channels that I'm on |
| 21:42.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And what channels you're on too |
| 21:42.25 | Lopeppeppy | Different IRC clients probably do it different. |
| 21:42.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: stick to the right side when you walk down the dead center. It's a crack in the wall on the right side |
| 21:42.34 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: ahh k |
| 21:42.39 | ralfWORK | not that I needed to know it |
| 21:42.40 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:42.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Well now you do :) |
| 21:42.55 | ScytheBlade1 | You actually enter through the sewers |
| 21:42.59 | ralfWORK | I'll probably not see BT before expac |
| 21:43.00 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: ##pxe, in answer |
| 21:43.03 | ralfWORK | or... even after then :( |
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| 22:08.29 | foxlit | Something is mildly uninspiring about the BC end-bosses |
| 22:08.39 | foxlit | Vashj is out to establish a water-utilities monopoly |
| 22:09.20 | zenzelezz | didn't you read the PTR notes? Water is missing all over outland |
| 22:09.32 | foxlit | Kael is... doing something very, very quietly |
| 22:10.03 | foxlit | Illidan is just brooding there in his dark tower |
| 22:10.28 | art3mis | kael wants all the spice |
| 22:10.34 | kamdis | illidan is emo |
| 22:10.34 | art3mis | illidan has always been emo |
| 22:10.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:11.00 | foxlit | In short, that band of amateurs isn't even out to destroy the world |
| 22:11.03 | kamdis | art3mis: neener, beat you! |
| 22:11.04 | art3mis | the trolls all qwant some old world god to come "rescue" them |
| 22:11.08 | zenzelezz | Illidan is the lord of Outland, what more could he want? |
| 22:11.12 | art3mis | kamdis: not on my screen toots ;P |
| 22:11.23 | kamdis | zenzelezz: a hug? |
| 22:11.27 | art3mis | zenzelezz: better lootreavers ;P |
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| 22:11.40 | zenzelezz | art3mis: he has none |
| 22:11.47 | zenzelezz | Void is Kael's, Doom is Kil'jaeden |
| 22:11.50 | art3mis | thats why he wants better ones |
| 22:12.16 | art3mis | hes upset the other kids get transformers and he's stuck with inhumanoids ;P |
| 22:12.48 | art3mis | although now that i think about it all the reavers look remarkably like the robot that bender wrestles |
| 22:13.05 | foxlit | And what has Kil'Jaeden done for world demolition, recently? |
| 22:13.20 | art3mis | manaforge uro ;) |
| 22:13.27 | art3mis | uru |
| 22:13.40 | art3mis | the manaforges and umm prison |
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| 22:14.17 | art3mis | i wonder why ragnos doesnt leave MC and go through the portal |
| 22:14.29 | art3mis | all that dry air and fire would do him a world of good |
| 22:14.58 | art3mis | heh that would be a sad noob day |
| 22:15.11 | art3mis | kiting ragnos to the portal |
| 22:20.14 | zenzelezz | you'd think he would burn up all the oxygen and die on his own after a while |
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| 22:20.55 | [dRaCo] | ragnaros needs air to breathe? |
| 22:21.01 | zenzelezz | no |
| 22:21.04 | zenzelezz | but you need oxygen to burn |
| 22:21.11 | zenzelezz | didn't you pay attention in school? |
| 22:21.16 | [dRaCo] | magic flames! |
| 22:21.59 | [dRaCo] | since he doesn't stop burning when covered in ice, he definitly isnt made of normal flames |
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| 22:43.37 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/03/funny-pictures-bad-day-here-i-fix-it/ |
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| 22:45.17 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, thank you zenzelezz! |
| 22:45.17 | cog|work | wtb crossed fingers |
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| 22:47.38 | art3mis | i bet you get turned down |
| 22:47.45 | art3mis | and the reason is gonna be "you're a gnome" |
| 22:47.59 | art3mis | and the bank officer will look at you and scream FOR THE HORDE! |
| 22:48.29 | Falcon213 | not an equal-opportunity lender? |
| 22:48.40 | art3mis | they never are |
| 22:48.47 | cog|work | ~lart3mis |
| 22:48.48 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 22:48.56 | cog|work | ahh... been a long time since i done that |
| 22:49.11 | kamdis | there's no title 9 protection for gnomes |
| 22:49.13 | cog|work | and now you have the flu too!! |
| 22:49.13 | art3mis | makes ya feel taller doesnt it |
| 22:49.14 | kamdis | :P |
| 22:49.27 | art3mis | purl caught teh flu? |
| 22:49.34 | cog|work | from me, duh |
| 22:49.39 | art3mis | gross |
| 22:52.07 | art3mis | ever have a green coloured drink and think oo watermelon and each time you sip it wyou think oo watermelon, only to realize that its sour apple? |
| 22:52.44 | cog|work | they recently found that the flu virus coats itself in a butter-like substance during cold weather to protect itself, hence winter being flu season... or.... melts in your mouth, not in your hands... |
| 22:53.00 | art3mis | flu == m&ms? |
| 22:53.01 | Keias | Granny Smith apples are the greatest |
| 22:53.07 | Keias | much better than those silly red ones |
| 22:53.19 | art3mis | crab apples are awesome too |
| 22:53.23 | art3mis | i lurv the sourness |
| 22:53.35 | art3mis | and they make really good pies |
| 22:53.52 | Keias | Yeah, I love sour flavored stuffs |
| 22:54.12 | art3mis | ooo i put in my ASSP thigy today |
| 22:54.15 | art3mis | thingy |
| 22:54.28 | art3mis | and the only reports ive gotten back were THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:54.34 | art3mis | from friggin ceos |
| 22:55.51 | foxlit | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 22:56.01 | art3mis | na nana nana nanana na na na nana |
| 22:56.28 | cog|work | woot! |
| 22:56.35 | art3mis | heh my wife got something from thinkgeek the other day and its this little box |
| 22:56.38 | cog|work | IN YO FACE ART3MIS |
| 22:56.46 | cog|work | GNOME POWUR |
| 22:56.47 | art3mis | the box it came in rather is like 6x6x4 |
| 22:57.00 | art3mis | and my cat decided thats a perfect place to curl up |
| 22:57.04 | art3mis | so?!!? |
| 22:57.18 | art3mis | im preapproved for car loans and credit cards and gas cards and home refinancing! |
| 22:57.31 | art3mis | the envelopes says sos! |
| 22:57.40 | art3mis | so whens the house party? |
| 22:58.06 | cog|work | i'll keep you posted :P |
| 22:58.19 | art3mis | which house did you get anyways? |
| 22:58.34 | art3mis | werent you looking at like 3 different ones? |
| 22:58.42 | cog|work | haven't chosen yet, though we hope to get this one http://www.ziprealty.com/buy_a_home/logged_in/search/my_home_detail.jsp?listing_num=20738377&property_type=SFR&mls=mls_ca_ba&cKey=6tk4k372&source=CABAREIS |
| 22:59.17 | art3mis | sign in FAIL! |
| 22:59.17 | cog|work | erm |
| 22:59.17 | cog|work | wrong link sry |
| 22:59.17 | cog|work | bleh |
| 22:59.59 | art3mis | i wonder if you tried really hard if you could make a malted with malt liquor |
| 23:00.00 | cog|work | we're still looking right now (haven't even been to any). I jsut wanted to get preapproved so we could put in an offer that carried more weight |
| 23:00.07 | art3mis | groovy |
| 23:00.11 | art3mis | get one with a pool |
| 23:00.17 | art3mis | kidney shaped |
| 23:00.21 | art3mis | with no water in it |
| 23:00.40 | art3mis | so we can sk8! |
| 23:00.44 | art3mis | sk8 or die! |
| 23:01.01 | art3mis | im surprised you were listening as long as you were |
| 23:01.07 | cog|work | me too |
| 23:01.43 | kamdis | And you still are! |
| 23:01.49 | cog|work | ZOMGLIEZ |
| 23:02.00 | art3mis | http://archive.vexingviews.com/motivation/youfailatfailing_1.jpg |
| 23:02.15 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:03.07 | kamdis | art3mis? http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9294/retardtj0.jpg |
| 23:03.51 | art3mis | i have two legs thank you very much! |
| 23:04.02 | kamdis | heh |
| 23:04.13 | kamdis | i love htat picture |
| 23:04.13 | art3mis | 1 hurts to walk on and i need to be aroused though |
| 23:04.18 | kamdis | *that |
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| 23:04.38 | art3mis | its the owl version of pinky and the brain |
| 23:05.04 | art3mis | http://bioethics.net/podcast/images/pinky_and_the_brain.jpg |
| 23:05.04 | art3mis | see! |
| 23:05.17 | art3mis | compelte with brows and looks |
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| 23:10.23 | Shirik|Ecole | ~lart3mis |
| 23:10.24 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
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| 23:24.04 | Legorol | does anyone happen to have the link to that flash animation about the moooing cow and the S&M farmer? |
| 23:24.19 | Legorol | where the song goes "i'm a cow, can't you see, i live in the country, moooo moooo, mooo moooo" |
| 23:28.30 | Lopeppeppy | http://members.iinet.net.au/~afleay/cow/ if you didn't get it already. NSFW btw. |
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| 23:32.22 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf Legorol |
| 23:32.25 | Shirik|Ecole | I did not need to see that >< |
| 23:32.29 | kd3 | oh good god. not another one. gunman reported at app state |
| 23:32.37 | Shirik|Ecole | app state? |
| 23:32.53 | kd3 | appalacian state university. div i-a school |
| 23:33.19 | Shirik|Ecole | great. |
| 23:34.03 | Shirik|Ecole | 6:32pm Emergency Alert Cancelled |
| 23:34.03 | Shirik|Ecole | The Administration, in consultation with Appalachian State University police and Boone police, have returned the campus to a normal status. Students and personnel remaining on campus may leave with caution. |
| 23:34.11 | Shirik|Ecole | as an update for you kd3 :) |
| 23:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | what @ /cow/ |
| 23:39.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Just |
| 23:39.47 | ScytheBlade1 | what |
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| 23:58.07 | batrick | hi friends |
| 23:58.30 | Cairenn | hey batrick :) |
| 23:59.34 | cog|work | hola |
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