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00:00.27LopeppeppyYes.
00:01.00Lunessawoot
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00:28.26Shirik|Ecole!google LM124
00:28.27batbotShirik|Ecole: LM124 - Low Power Quad Operational Amplifier <http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM124.html>
00:28.34Shirik|EcoleI love batbot
00:28.39Shirik|Ecolemy instant datasheet finder
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00:48.11cogumel0how come if I put "addon:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() -- code -- end)" this works but doesn't work if I put "addon:SetScript("OnUpdate", OnUpdate) local OnUpdate = function() -- same code -- end" ?
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00:49.17Shirik|Ecolebecause at the time you do SetScript, that local is not defined
00:49.37cogumel0-.-
00:49.43Shirik|Ecoleif you had done "local OnUpdate = function() --[[ same code ]] end; addon:SetScript("OnUpdate", OnUpdate)" it would be fine
00:50.04cogumel0lol
00:50.06cogumel0what about...
00:50.16cogumel0nevermind, you just answered it with the previous answer :P
00:50.29cogumel0thx :)
00:50.42Shirik|Ecolenp
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00:51.58cogumel0so this only applies to things that are triggered by wow itself? everything that is triggered by wow itself must be defined before setting the script?
00:53.11wereHamstercogumel0, the lua files are parsed from top to bottom, so if you try to use something that hasn't been created/defined yet it will fail.
00:54.18cogumel0yeah nevermind, I was looking at a bad example.
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01:40.59TemAHAHAHA
01:41.06TemI get yesterday's xkcd now
01:41.09Temthat's hillarious
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01:47.28WobWorkTem: I just lost the game =(
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01:48.37Tem:)
01:49.19TemWobWork, don't feel bad, I lost I < 1 hour
01:49.31Tems/lost I/lost in/
01:50.48Esamynn|Work~fail me
01:50.49purlesamynn|work: Fail.
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01:52.07Esamynn|Work~poke Legorol
01:52.08purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Legorol, pokes Legorol repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
01:54.59WobWorkEsamynn|Work: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A22766402
01:56.54WobWorkYou just lost the Game, too =)
01:56.59WobWorkYou were winning for a while there
01:57.03Esamynn|Worklol
01:57.32Esamynn|WorkI'm quite certain I'll completely forget about it without much trouble :P
01:57.42WobWorkIt's kinda like Mornington Crescent, but not as cool
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02:01.34Lunessagrrr..... There is a certain level of responsibility incumbent on an AddOn or Compilation user to know what the heck they are installing.
02:10.31Cairennwheee, net split!
02:10.31Cairennwow
02:10.31Cairennbig one
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02:11.06Guillotineawww, get away. it was better without you guys
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02:11.16xlviihaha.
02:11.36xlviithat was HUGE!
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02:11.39Guillotinewhy are you welcoming us back! you were the ones that left!
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02:11.40art3misappearantly it was worldwide GM day too
02:11.40Guillotinebiggest netsplit ever
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02:11.40cogumel0there were only 13 of us left in this channel :)
02:11.40xlviii was one of the lucky ones!
02:11.40alestaneMarch Fourth for GMs Day...a rather ironic day for the first Dungeon Master to get TPK'd.
02:11.40cogumel0me too
02:12.08art3mistpk?
02:12.08LopeppeppyI was safe....
02:12.08NightHawkTheSanetotal party kill
02:12.08art3miswhats the t?
02:12.09alestane"Total Party Kill"...a term from organized roleplay. What we in WoW would call a wipe, but more final.
02:12.09art3misahh
02:12.34art3misyeah
02:12.34NightHawkTheSaneits like a wipe, but your characters get deleted afterwards
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02:12.34Legorolhello Esamynn|Work
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02:12.50Legorolyou seem to have poked me earlier
02:12.50art3misit makes me sad sometimes when everyone i grew up with as giants are dying
02:12.50Esamynn|WorkLegorol: indeed, just for fun :P
02:13.03NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: yeah :\
02:13.03Legorolah ok
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02:13.42xlvii[12:08] <Verichip_> wow i survived
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02:13.42xlvii[12:11] <mariorz> < Verichip_> wow i survived
02:13.42xlvii[12:11] <mariorz> XD
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02:13.55art3misGary, Johnny, Sammy Davis jr, jim henson just to naem a few
02:13.55art3misname
02:13.55art3misgeorge burns i dont feel sad for, he far outlived his time and it was more of a punishment than anything when gracey died
02:13.55Temhttp://arcanux.org/lambdacats.html
02:14.06LunessaI met the man several times.  He was interesting, but I didn't much care for him as a person.  His first game did change my life though.
02:14.45alestaneGygax?
02:14.55LunessaGeorge Burns - When I'm his age, I want to be as brilliant and wonderful as he was.
02:15.19Lunessaalestane: Yes, I meant Gygax.
02:15.39art3misGary Gygax Dies, and a Million Wizards and Orcs Weep
02:15.57art3mishell yeah gorge burns is a legend and for ever will be
02:16.02art3misgeorge
02:16.49alestaneI don't think the industry I love would exist if not for him. But by the same token, he founded an industry. How many people can say the same? It's only a shame that he was so close to hitting 70 first.
02:17.11LopeppeppyEternal Twinking.
02:17.51Cidealestane: should've powerleveled.
02:18.05Cidethat wasn't very funny
02:18.23alestaneI thought I heard a rumor that there was a tribute NPC on the PTR.
02:18.31TemCide, don't you get B& for that?
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02:18.37kd3if there is, I haven't seen him
02:18.54kd3that'd be quick, though. didn't the news just break today?
02:18.55alestaneWell, it was a rumor.
02:18.57CideTem: banned? :P who knows!
02:19.13alestaneAnd Wizards of the Coast immediately added a funeral splash screen to their website.
02:19.25Cairennkd3: aye ... couldn't have broken before today, since he only just died today :p
02:20.13MentalPower~seen The_8472
02:20.15purlMentalPower: i haven't seen 'the_8472'
02:21.30art3misthe tribute character to my gygax would have to be at least 3 times the size of a fell reaver
02:21.34art3misas a true giant
02:23.35Xinhuanwho died?
02:23.52alestaneErnest Gary Gygax: 1938-2008.
02:23.55CairennGary Gygax
02:24.01Xinhuanwho exactly is that ~_~
02:24.08Cairennone of the original creators of D&D
02:24.13alestaneWith Dave Arenson, the creator of Dungeons & Dragons.
02:24.30Xinhuanyou mean the original paper and pen dice rolling game?
02:24.37alestaneYes.
02:24.40Xinhuan:o
02:24.55alestaneAnd one of the fundamental influences behind the creation of MMOs.
02:25.06Xinhuani remember playing D&D back when i was young :(
02:25.38Xinhuan~wiki Gary Gygax
02:25.48alestaneD&D is still around and going strong...but its creator is DMing in Heaven.
02:26.02Cairennyup, D&D and Tolkien before them really led to the games we enjoy today
02:29.48Xinhuanthere
02:29.49art3misbahahahahaha
02:29.49art3miscleavland ran out of ballots by 2pm
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02:29.49Xinhuan"Gygax died the morning of March 4, 2008, at his home in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin.[8] He was in semi-retirement,[2] having almost suffered a heart attack after receiving incorrect medication[4] to prevent further strokes after those on April 1 and May 4, 2004."
02:29.49Xinhuan:o
02:29.49Xinhuanincorrect medication
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02:39.49WobWorkhm
02:40.02WobWorkI -totally- want to see "The Amazing Race:  Mornington Crescent Edition"
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02:44.55art3mishttp://poststuff5.entensity.net/030308/image.php?pic=hay.gif <-- funny but NSFW and 18+
02:46.19MentalPowerart3mis: very nice
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02:58.16NightHawkTheSaneLunessa: good, cincinnati can suck it. :P
02:58.18Shirik\Ecolelua> i=.112; r=33; return i^2*r
02:58.18lua_botShirik\Ecole: 0.413952
02:59.44Lunessahaha.  Lots of our  "Boss Down" screenies have a word balloon of someone saying "Suck it" in then.
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03:00.50KyrinIf an addon is joining a channel, and then hiding that channel from the chat window, how do I make it show that channel?
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03:03.05WobWorklook in the chat tab of the social [panel?
03:04.05KyrinYeah, I do that, and it works, but I want to essentially stop it from automatically hiding the channel in the chat frame
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03:11.22Shirik|Ecole!google 2N4124
03:11.23batbotShirik|Ecole: 2N4124/MMBT4124 NPN General Purpose Amplifier <http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/2N/2N4124.pdf>
03:11.32Sixen" I've said it before and I'll say it again.
03:11.32SixenThe very best way to get banned is to rickroll the most heavily moderated forum."
03:11.33SixenLmfao.
03:11.36Shirik|Ecole!google 3n4905
03:11.37batbotShirik|Ecole: no results
03:11.44Shirik|Ecole!google 2n4905
03:11.45batbotShirik|Ecole: 2N4905 Datasheet pdf - COMPLEMENTARY SILICON POWER TRANSISTORS ... <http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/2/N/4/9/2N4905.shtml>
03:12.08Shirik|Ecole!google MPSA13
03:12.09batbotShirik|Ecole: Darlington Transistors MPSA13 MPSA14 * <http://www.jaycar.com.au/images_uploaded/MPSA13_D.PDF>
03:12.14Shirik|Ecolefinally
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03:15.55WobWorkShirik|Ecole: are you testing batbot? Or just abusing him =P
03:16.09Shirik|Ecoletrying to put together this damn circuit
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03:16.17WobWorkPS, I hear google can find your information =P
03:16.30Shirik|EcoleI am realizing how difficult it is to be able to reliably read an infrared signal at > 6 ft
03:16.39WobWorkYou need to squint more
03:19.11Kyrinso, no thoughts then I guess?
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03:20.34kd3oh wow... wtf. if this isn't doctored: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5050/wowscrnshot030408210420mv9.jpg
03:20.53kd3apparently an inscription link found its way to a chat channel
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03:21.31Cidekd3: spells are probably not validated
03:21.39Cidewhich means that you can get the tooltip for any spell you want
03:21.59Cideon the other hand, that data has been available for as long as it's been in the spell database :P
03:22.27Gngski thought they said of inscription that they weren't going to just do 'add +x dmg'
03:23.40kd3oh, huh. it is in the database. http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=35043
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03:24.20CideGngsk: *just* going to do
03:24.24CideI'm sure some will be just that
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03:25.19kd3anyone offhand remember the spell link syntax?
03:25.36LunessaI expect the +X damage ones will be the puny weak ones.
03:26.00NightHawkTheSaneheh
03:26.00NightHawkTheSanehttp://themot.org/gallery/d/45773-2/gas_prices.jpg
03:27.01kd3lmao
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03:27.11dylanmHaha.
03:28.25Lunessalol
03:28.37Cairennhah
03:28.51LunessaRemember when we qq'ed about those prices?  Yeah?  Good times.
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03:29.14WobWorkDid you see that lufthansa plane almost crash landing?
03:29.39MentalPowerno...
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03:29.56MentalPoweroh, link gotcha
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03:38.54NightHawkTheSanehttp://consumerist.com/362926/do-coat-hangers-sound-as-good-monster-cables
03:39.01NightHawkTheSanehah, "Of course, a coat hanger doesn't have a Monster Cable lifetime warranty, so if your coat hanger breaks, you'll have to go out and buy another coat hanger."
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03:42.06Cairennlol
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03:43.55IrielThe irony of that story, is that coat hangers are an extremely large cross section conductor
03:44.04IrielSo it's hardly surprising that for a short run interconnect they do well
03:44.23Irielafterall the conductors INSIDE your $2000 amp aren't more than just a good bit of copper and some solder
03:44.53IrielThough that's also a perfect reason why these crazy ass interconnects that somehow have magical properties are bunk
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04:08.49LegorolWobin: lufthansa plane? crashing?
04:08.53Legorolyou got link?
04:09.02LegorolWobWork even
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04:15.19MentalPowerLegorol: http://themot.org/gallery/d/45773-2/gas_prices.jpg
04:16.10Legorolhm, i don't get it
04:17.15Legorolis that a joke of some sort that i'm missing here?
04:18.18WobWorkno not to do with that link
04:18.31sacarascjust look at how cheap them prices are!
04:19.51WobWorkhttp://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/03/germany.plane/index.html
04:21.28WobWorkthat's some seriously good recovering right there
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04:28.08NightHawkTheSaneWobWork: indeed.
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04:31.47NightHawkTheSaneCairenn: i have no idea why you could ever come to that conclusion. >.>
04:32.14kd3really? seems rock-solid to me
04:32.22kd3'course, hiding joins/parts probably helps...
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04:32.33NightHawkTheSanehaha.
04:32.37Cairennkd3: heh
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04:34.03LunessaG'night folks.  I'm headed home. Se you after my I teach people to use Mail Merge tomorrow.
04:34.15Cairennnight Lunessa
04:34.31NightHawkTheSanemail merge eh?.. the mail servers will never forgive you.
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04:35.23kd3hm... it's 23:30 and the only caloric intake I've had today is a can of vault. perhaps I should fix that
04:37.41NightHawkTheSanethe problem with subbed anime is that i can't watch it at the same time i play.. ><
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05:22.49Shirik|EcoleHELL YEAH
05:22.54Shirik|EcoleIt took me forever but it finally works
05:23.21Shirik|EcoleMy robot can finally detect a 2KHz or 4.5KHz signal from 6 feet away reliably
05:23.35Shirik|Ecole(infrared)
05:23.41Shirik|Ecole<-- so happy right now
05:27.12Fisker-<-unhappy
05:27.15Cairennnice
05:27.37kd3whee
05:28.36Shirik|EcoleI have so much respect for those guys that make TV remotes now
05:28.39sacarascShirik|Ecole: and what does it do after detecting it?
05:28.45Shirik|Ecoleso much damn amplification required
05:28.57Shirik|Ecolesacarasc: It's used by the AI when it's finished its task to find the home base
05:29.21Fisker-you're just saying that to sound cool :(
05:29.23Shirik|Ecoleit will start on one of two sides of the competition field, one side is marked by 2.5KHz IR beacon, the other is marked by a 4KHz one
05:29.34Shirik|Ecoleusing this it can figure out where it is and go home
05:30.29sacarascare there ever people who go to events where you show these things off/compete with IR pens and mess up what you're doing?
05:30.37Shirik|Ecolerofl
05:30.47Shirik|Ecoleit would be a bit difficult to shine an IR pen at 4KHz
05:30.56Shirik|Ecolebut no, not really, considering everyone there is an IEEE member
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06:25.27Guillotinethe new XKCD = win
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06:43.46Sixen_I still want to know how to put the colors in Chat
06:43.46Sixen_:/
06:44.00Shirikit's easy
06:44.14Shirik|cRRGGBBFF[text]|r
06:44.24Sixen_Oh
06:44.26ShirikRRGGBB is red, green, blue hex values
06:44.28ShirikFF is just FF
06:44.28Sixen_Yeah
06:44.33Sixen_Similar to the Lua code.
06:44.39ShirikIf you want to do this from the chat window, you have to do it slightly different
06:44.47Shirik\124cRRGGBBFF[text]\124r
06:44.49Sixen_That's what I was referring to. Sorry, =o.
06:44.58Sixen_If I can ask, what's the 124 represent?
06:45.02Shirik|
06:45.12Shiriklua> string.byte("\")
06:45.12lua_botShirik: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>'
06:45.16Shiriklua> string.byte("\\")
06:45.17lua_botShirik: 92
06:45.20Shirikuh
06:45.22Shirikoh whoops
06:45.26Sixen_=p
06:45.27Shiriklua> string.byte("|")
06:45.27lua_botShirik: 124
06:45.44Shirikthing is, the chat window is "helpful"
06:45.48Shirikit converts | into ||
06:45.57Shirik\124 gets around that
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06:46.15Sixen_Ah
06:46.48Sixen_So simply typing "\124c001122FF[hi]\124r" should work?
06:46.53Sixen_Just as an example./
06:47.01Shirikdon't even need the [ and ]
06:47.07Shirikand you need to do that in a script
06:47.13Sixen_Ah.
06:47.19Sixen_Then how did people get it in the MOTD?
06:47.21Shirikfurthermore, if you try to say that
06:47.24Shirikyou'll get disconnected
06:47.30Sixen_I didn't get d/ced :P
06:48.00Shirikhttp://wowwiki.com/API_GuildSetMOTD
06:48.23Sixen_Oh, duh.,
06:48.43Sixen_Hmph, can I do it in a macro?
06:48.49Sixen_Or does it have to be a script.
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06:49.11Shirikno difference
06:49.15Sixen_=o
06:50.04Sixen_[23:46:11] [S] <10:Sixen>: \124c001122FF[text]\124r
06:50.19Shirikyou would still do /script in the macro...
06:50.23Sixen_Sorry Shirik, it's late...
06:50.33Shirikwhat are you talking about
06:50.35Shirikit's only 2 am
06:50.42Sixen_I have to wake up in a few hours for school :(
06:51.09ShirikI have to study for a test in a few hours :D
06:51.14Sixen_:P
06:51.33Shiriknode analysis, mesh analysis, superposition theorem, and norton's and thevenin's methods
06:51.37Shirikfun stuff
06:51.46Sixen_Ow.
06:53.34MentalPowernight
06:53.41Sixen_Night MP.
06:55.08Sixen_Argh.
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06:57.55Sixen_Mmmm, what did you do to stop that unexpected symbol to happen?
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07:03.59CairennHave I mentioned lately that I hate, loathe and despise winter?
07:04.09Sixen_That sucks, :(
07:04.21IrielToo many polar bear attacks? Penuins in the road?
07:04.49Sixen_=p
07:04.54CairennAnother 25-30 cm of snow, freezing rain and ice pellets between now and tomorrow evening
07:04.57Sixen_<PROTECTED>
07:05.37Sixen_I suck at life... I still can't figure out why I can't fix that.
07:07.22Sixen_Ugh... I'm an idiot. Roflmao.
07:07.37Sixen_Nope, nevermind.
07:08.19Sixen_*cough*any assistance?*cough*
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07:16.19TemSixen_, ChatFrame1:AddMessage(" \124c00112299hi\124r")
07:16.36Sixen_=O.
07:16.45AntiarcYaaaaaaaaaaaay new hardware.
07:16.57AntiarcCore 2 Duo 6750 and an 8800GT :D
07:17.10Antiarc80 FPS in Shattrath is blowing my mind
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07:19.32Sixen_Ahahaha. Thanks Tem, <3.
07:19.38Sixen_It's late.. I need sleep.
07:19.43Sixen_That being said, /sleep.
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07:22.12SixenIs the book in the "Topic" by Iriel, etc?
07:22.29SixenEr, Cairenn, Cog, and someone else?
07:22.30IrielNot I, but various of the denizens of the channel
07:22.46IrielCladhaire
07:22.46CairennClad, Kael & Cog
07:22.53SixenAh
07:23.02SixenYeah, =). I might get that, seems interesting.
07:23.34SixenAnyways, i'm going to bed. Good night~
07:24.30Cairennsweet dreams
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08:36.29RayneO_o
08:36.43RayneI need someone whos good with Parrot, kthnx.
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08:37.44RayneAnyone even awake?
08:38.01amronope =)
08:38.29RayneDidnt think so
08:38.39Cairennzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
08:38.43Rayne:<
08:38.47RayneAnyway, ill ask.
08:39.26RayneSince I just started using Parrot, how do I configure an area so that only critical abilities, like heals and such I recieve, show up there, and normal attacks show up in another area?
08:40.09Maldivia*yawn*
08:40.12RayneCant seem to pick it out
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08:45.03RayneNo one? :<
08:47.56clad|officemorning all
08:47.57clad|officein theory
08:50.25Cairennhi clad|office
08:51.32clad|officehow are things?
08:51.59art3mismsbt > parrot ;)
08:52.09art3miswhy does it feel like a friday night?
08:52.17clad|officeheh
08:52.39Rayneart3mis: Im starting to get that same impressing
08:52.41Rayneer
08:52.43RayneImpression*
08:53.05art3misparrot follows the ckk rule of beable to configure EVERYTHING with no real meaningful relationship menu for settings
08:53.31art3misand im not saying that just cuz i hate librock ;P
08:53.48art3misi switched back to msbt long before he made rock so nyah ;)
08:54.21art3misi think i need a tablet
08:54.34art3misive decided that i have no computer graphics skills
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08:54.46art3misbut that would change if i could just freehand draw crap
08:57.03art3mismeh i wish i had some vick vaporub
08:57.07art3misvicks
08:57.35art3misone sinus completely stuffed and drippy, the other totally open and dry
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08:57.58NightHawkTheSaneart3mis: i really hate that. ><
09:00.53Raynegah, im probably missing how to do this
09:01.46art3misits alright when im sleeping
09:01.55art3misi just turn over and it drains and i get another 2 hours sleep
09:02.06art3missitting upright poses a problem though heh
09:04.32art3mis>>> 188 - 125
09:04.38art3mis> 188 - 125
09:04.45art3mis>> 188 - 125
09:04.53nevcairiellua> 188 - 125
09:04.53lua_botnevcairiel: 63
09:04.58art3misthanks
09:05.10nevcairiel>>> was cide iirc =P
09:05.40Kalrothhaha
09:06.12Kalroth--> 188-125
09:06.12batbotKalroth: > 63
09:06.38KalrothI wonder if it's possible to make the two Lua bots give each other commands
09:07.03nevcairieli think they ignore each other
09:07.17Kalrothaw
09:07.18RayneSeems like a hate hate relationship
09:07.29Kalroth--> /msg nevcairiel hay there sexy
09:07.29batbotKalroth: @ [string " /msg nevcairiel hay there sexy"]:1: unexpected symbol near '/'
09:07.34KalrothD'oh!
09:07.42Kalroth--> print("/msg nevcairiel hay there sexy")
09:07.42batbotKalroth: /msg nevcairiel hay there sexy
09:07.44Kalrothhrmf
09:08.01KalrothNow I just need it to escape my string somehow
09:08.06nevcairielhe fixed that along time ago =P
09:08.09KalrothDarn
09:08.47Kalroth--> print("Q"..char(9).."Q")
09:08.47batbotKalroth: @ [string "return  print("Q"..char(9).."Q")"]:1: attempt to call global 'char' (a nil value)
09:08.52Kalroth--> print("Q"..chr(9).."Q")
09:08.52batbotKalroth: @ [string "return  print("Q"..chr(9).."Q")"]:1: attempt to call global 'chr' (a nil value)
09:09.01Kalrothwtf, Lua doesn't have chr()?
09:09.17Kalrothor is that some silly escape?
09:09.20nevcairiellua> string.char(9)
09:09.20lua_botnevcairiel: No output
09:09.34nevcairiellua> string.char(100)
09:09.35lua_botnevcairiel: d
09:09.58nevcairiellua> "Q" .. string.char(9) .. "Q"
09:09.58lua_botnevcairiel: QQ
09:15.38WobinGary Gygax: Rolling in his grave. (natural 20)
09:15.43WobinRIP
09:16.40Kalroth:D
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09:31.29Shirik(03:37:51) (@Cairenn) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
09:31.31Shirikha!
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10:23.43|pez|I really hate snow
10:24.47CairennHave I mentioned lately that I hate, loathe and despise winter?
10:24.50CairennAnother 25-30 cm of snow, freezing rain and ice pellets between now and tomorrow evening
10:25.03Cairenntell me about it ><
10:25.11|pez|Oh, ew, that's worse than here.
10:25.16|pez|but the winter sort of tricked us.
10:25.33|pez|there was awesome springlike weather, warming sun, no rain, and such.
10:25.43|pez|and bam, the day after, it's almost snowstorm. :P
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10:41.02KalrothCairenn: You need a lot of wood, some gasoline and a box of matches. No more winter!
10:41.10Cairennheh
10:42.13ElkanoCairenn is in Caqnada, so she has lots of wood ^^ just flame the forests ;)
10:42.27KalrothCanada, eh?
10:42.29Kalroth:P
10:42.39CairennElkano: no
10:42.45Elkano*mindtricks* there is no q
10:43.13Elkanoyou aren't anymore?
10:43.26CairennI won't flame the forests
10:43.46Elkanoah ^^
10:43.56amrowinter is over, here :)
10:44.16KalrothCairenn: If you don't like snow, why do you reside in igloo country?
10:44.45Elkanowell, it would keep you pretty warm, promote global warming (thus hindering another winter) and, in case you survive, would propably also get you a warm place in jail
10:44.46amrocanada > US
10:45.05CairennElkano: forest fires are bad, mmkay?
10:45.43Kalrothamro: Depends on where you live in Canada. If you get too north, then you'll be fighting eskimos for your igloos.
10:46.17Elkanotrue, Cairenn, true... I'm a firefighter myself; fortunatly wasn't involved into fighting one, yet
10:46.35Cairennmy granddad was a fireman
10:46.49Cairennand he did
10:47.01amroKalroth: as long as you're not in Quebec, it's good :)
10:47.28Keiashow can you not like snow? :(
10:49.28CairennElkano: there's actually both a (fire break) lagoon and a lane in the Yukon named after him
10:49.51Industrial/cast [combat,pet] Mend Pet; [nocombat,pet] Dismiss Pet; [nopet] Call Pet; Revive Pet
10:49.54Industrialwould this work?
10:50.07Industrialeg mend if in combat, call if in combat, call out of combat, dismiss out of combat or revive
10:52.12CairennKeias: easy'll enough, when it's paired with dark and cold and bad walking and bad driving and ....
10:53.02Keiaswell the bad drivers do make things annoying and dangerous :(
10:53.07KeiasBut aside from that!
10:53.20KeiasAnd we had that the freezing rain and ice here too
10:53.32Keiasall afternoon.  But then turned to just snow at night
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10:56.24AlexanderYoshiDo you know the muffin man?
10:56.32clad|officeThe muffin man?
10:56.41AlexanderYoshiThe muffin man.
10:56.48clad|officeYes, I know the muffin man!
10:57.14AlexanderYoshiThen, tell me where he is, before I dunk you into a boiling cauldron of millk!
10:57.28clad|officeNot the gumdrop buttons!!!!!
10:57.36Cairennthat lives down drury lane
10:58.26AlexanderYoshiBye
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11:40.43IndustrialBK
11:40.49IndustrialOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
11:42.17Elkanonoppnoppnopp
11:42.37|pez|I almost feel bad for not driving the boyfriend to work today
11:43.24AlexanderYoshiWhy wouldn't you?
11:43.33AlexanderYoshiNow he has to walk in the rain.
11:43.39AlexanderYoshiYou're the worst friend ever.
11:44.05AlexanderYoshiJust break up with him now and end his torment.
11:44.42AlexanderYoshiThen get back to grinding bloodsail faction.
11:44.45|pez|It's more like a snowstorm than rain really.
11:45.22|pez|Oh, I like whips.
11:45.48AlexanderYoshiTo make it up to him, you need to make his main's rep page look like this one:
11:45.49AlexanderYoshihttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Dragonblight&n=Leishmania
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11:48.26AlexanderYoshiI still can't believe someone in the game ground bloosdail to 20999
11:48.33AlexanderYoshi*Bloodsail
11:50.38cogumel0how can I find out what the name of the frame where the world map map is displayed is called? not the WorldMapFrame, only the part where the map images are displayed inside teh WorldMapFrame.
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11:51.39amrocogumel0: use DevTools
11:54.18cogumel0just hover over the frame?
11:55.15amro<PROTECTED>
11:55.16amrothen hover
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11:57.34cogumel0cheers
11:59.19cogumel0gah that's confusing, the number and names of frames change when just hovering over the part taht I want to know -.-
12:01.33cogumel0are all frames hidable?
12:02.16|pez|I'd think so.
12:02.34foxlitamro: did you try that?
12:02.42foxlitBecause framestack disappears when world map is shown
12:03.29cogumel0foxlit, you can resize world map and have it appear again :)
12:03.32cogumel0that's what I did
12:03.49cogumel0resized it to 60% to show both the tooltip and the world map
12:03.50foxlitworld map is resizable? :/
12:03.55cogumel0it's a frame ain't it?
12:04.15cogumel0hooksecurefunc(WorldMapFrame, "Show", function(self)
12:04.15cogumel0self:SetScale(0.60)
12:04.29foxlitA needed, but not sufficient condition.
12:04.45foxlitBut let me re-address that
12:04.49foxlitcogumel0: did you try that?
12:04.58cogumel0try the resize part? yes.
12:05.15foxlitis the framestack tooltip visible, then?
12:05.27cogumel0yes
12:05.45foxlitOkay.
12:05.49cogumel0and I get multiple tooltips according to where I put the mouse, and I always put it inside the map itself obviously. I mean the area where the map is displayed
12:05.59cogumel0What's WorldMapButton ?
12:06.08cogumel0I tried to hide it and nothing happened that I can see...
12:06.14cogumel0it's not MiniMapWorldButton, thato ne I know
12:14.56cogumel0ok, think I got it
12:15.24cogumel0strangely enough, there seem to be 2 frames that are exactly the same thing...
12:16.02cogumel0one is the empty background (WorldMapButton) and the other is the image of the map (WorldMapDetailFrame)
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12:37.56cncfanaticshello everyone
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13:06.18Keiashttp://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/wan/595784465.html
13:06.20KeiasPretty epic
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13:11.31nevcairieloh well another one
13:11.36nevcairielnot that its somethign new
13:11.40dezzisimpsons did it
13:12.28nevcairielprobably fake like the other one
13:13.02Elkanolooking at the pic I'd rather request 5k myself for mounting her...
13:13.27dezziyou'd hit it
13:13.28dezzidon't lie
13:13.51dezzishe's got a quality set of funbags
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13:15.46nevcairielgoogle should offer some image-comparions search, so you can search for that image on other pages :P
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13:17.18Elkanohow about www.itooksomepicturesfromthewebpretenditsmyexgirlfriendandnowtrytomakemoneyvialayeradds.com/?id=h4x0r ;)
13:17.35Elkanowould be usefull for such pages, too
13:17.52nevcairieli need to register that page
13:17.56nevcairielis there a max length for domain names?
13:17.57nevcairiel:D
13:18.01Elkanothe typo is intended, otherone was taken ;)
13:18.06nevcairiellol
13:18.09nevcairielreally?
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13:19.03dezziis that in reference to thisbitch?
13:19.04dezzilol
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14:04.54Adys[14:17:56] <nevcairiel> is there a max length for domain names?
14:04.57Adys64 chars no?
14:05.58Adyshttp://www.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com/signup.php :|
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14:08.46ralfWORKAdys: 255 octets
14:09.44cogumel0what's the max coordinates in x any y in a map?
14:09.51ralfWORKnfc
14:10.05ralfWORKAdys: http://www.ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2003/msg00969.html
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14:13.24MentalPowercogumel0: 1,1
14:13.49MentalPowercogumel0: 0 <= x <= 1
14:15.51ralfWORKwow, that craigslist link is a hoot!
14:16.47AdysralfWORK: :o
14:19.01ralfWORK:)
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15:29.30batrickhttp://xkcd.com/290/ I love that xkcd
15:29.49ralfWORKheh nice
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17:11.31ralfWORKdude that was like yesterday
17:11.34ShirikI may have to go play D&D now finally, see what it's like
17:11.40Shirikhey I don't watch the news
17:11.50ralfWORKit's on teh intarwebz
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17:17.17foxlithttp://www.spirit-dreams.net/ui/notepad/10/QMZ
17:17.31foxlitThere _must_ be a cleaner way to do that
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17:18.03nevcairielparsing a IEEE float eh?
17:18.06foxlityep
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17:19.25foxlithrm, should fix that highlighter
17:19.28foxlitexp isn't reserved
17:19.44Shirikwell foxlit
17:20.07ShirikI have to say IEEE floats were designed with bitwise arithmetic availability in mind
17:20.07foxlitThe [6, 10] loop looks annoying in particular
17:20.30ShirikI would find the papers for you but I really have to go
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17:21.31foxlitI semi-read the spec, it's mostly the math that bugs me
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17:26.26|pez|I do not look forward to picking up the boyfriend from work today.
17:26.32ralfWORKwhy?
17:26.34|pez|There seems to be chaos on the roads.
17:26.38ralfWORKahh
17:26.40ralfWORKwhere you at?
17:26.49|pez|Bergen, Norway.
17:26.58ralfWORKright right
17:27.16|pez|it was like a snowstorm earlier today, and then there was rain.
17:27.36|pez|and people obviously can't drive acording to the conditions, so there is chaos.
17:30.34|pez|http://www.bt.no/webtv/?id=9814
17:30.54nevcairieli bet thats in some language i dont understand
17:30.56|pez|yes
17:31.02|pez|http://www.bt.no/webtv/?id=9814
17:31.19ralfWORKnevcairiel: it's norwayish
17:31.23nevcairielplus it requires WMP11
17:31.26nevcairielwhich i dont have =P
17:31.36|pez|Oh, crap on a stick
17:31.59|pez|why can't people use something halfway sensible atleast.. XD
17:32.00nevcairielbut'll take your word for it that your weather is crappy
17:32.10|pez|for encoding and posting vids.
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17:32.24|pez|It is, busses are hours late, people are driving off roads..
17:32.26nevcairielthe flash video player is rather common
17:32.30nevcairielwhat youtube uses
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17:50.06|Jelly|Can someone who plays a lock higher than say ... 46 tell me why this lifetap thing is such a "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING" nerf?
17:50.37NightHawkTheSanebecause locks are all whiny idiots?
17:50.40zenzelezzI don't play a lock so I can't, but it sounds a bit like the "mend pet nerf"
17:51.08nevcairiel|Jelly|: because it increases the amount of taps you have to do .. and tapping = wasted dps =P
17:51.12|Jelly|20% of your max mana versus 580mana before specing affliction?
17:51.12nevcairielits not that bad really tho
17:51.17|Jelly|How so?
17:51.30nevcairielin the time you tap, you cannot dps, obviously
17:51.30|Jelly|with the nerf, it's five taps. 20, 40, 60, 80, 100
17:51.31NightHawkTheSanenevcairiel: its not really increased taps to max mana though
17:51.33ralfWORKbecause it's the first nerf to the most OP class in the game?
17:51.37ralfWORK;)
17:51.49ralfWORKif they were priests, they'd be used to it
17:52.02|Jelly|Agreed. Note the PI change.
17:52.09NightHawkTheSanewhat it is is that it's a vastly increased, and percentage based, health cost, which kind of flies in the face of lock itemization
17:52.44NightHawkTheSanewith the new lifetap, locks are better served by having mage-like stats, instead of stacking sta.
17:53.11|Jelly|*shrug*
17:56.28ralfWORKwell I do have to say one of the things I love/hate about locks is that they have basically infinite free mana in a raid/group setting
17:56.50NightHawkTheSaneits only infinite as long as there are healers dumb enough to keep healing them.
17:57.01ralfWORKand they do...
17:57.06NightHawkTheSanei don't..
17:57.17ralfWORKI guess you're pretty hardcore then
17:57.26ralfWORKI see a health bar not full, I fill it
17:57.27NightHawkTheSaneno, i just go oom enough healing people who -actually- take damage.
17:58.12NightHawkTheSaneplus, i get annoyed at our locks who lifetap to half health between pulls, and standthere like jackasses expecting to be healed.
17:58.37ralfWORKthe more chaotic the encounter, the less I'm going to tell the difference between splash damage and lifetap
17:58.45ralfWORKNightHawkTheSane: now that's a different issue entirely
17:59.05NightHawkTheSaneralfWORK: true, but in that case, i'm just spamming CH anyway, so it just hits who it hits. :P
17:59.22ralfWORKNightHawkTheSane: yep
17:59.51ralfWORKso that lock gets healed anyways
17:59.56ralfWORKand has near infinite mana
17:59.56batricknow blizz just needs to nerf locks in pvp
17:59.58ralfWORKlike I said :)
18:00.29NightHawkTheSaneralfWORK: well i can't control where CH goes, sadly. :P
18:00.37ralfWORKhehehe
18:00.51NightHawkTheSanebatrick: the LT change -is- a pvp nerf, though, its pretty much entirly why it was changed
18:01.10batricko ? then very good :)
18:01.27batrickmay the nerfing of locks continue
18:01.34ralfWORKyes, carry on ;)
18:03.02batrickman
18:03.12batrickthe warlock tears in lock forums are tasty
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18:08.09ralfWORK:D
18:08.39batrickyou know mages wouldn't cry this hard at a nerf of that magnitude
18:08.43batrickwe always have the lube ready
18:08.50batrickwarlocks you know... they're virgins
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18:09.26ralfWORKpriests put lube on every morning when they wake up
18:09.29ralfWORKit's just the way it is
18:09.36Valaron|WorkInteresting.
18:14.56art3mishttp://www.rlslog.net/amd-unveils-780-series-graphics-45nm-cpus/
18:15.02|Jelly|nevcairiel: thanks for fixing the enable/disable "bug" in bartender. (clicking on it while it's unlocked)
18:15.14nevcairielwhat bug?
18:15.26nevcairielh that
18:15.36nevcairielthat was a side effect of another fix really :D
18:15.41|Jelly|Ahh.
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18:21.40Rayne|Jelly|: Hiya stranger
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18:22.09|Jelly|drama rama
18:22.42Rayne?
18:23.32zenzelezzhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/04/funny-pictures-we-findz-in-larryz-kamera/
18:24.44ralfWORKdis better: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-cat-punches-cat-in-box.jpg
18:28.10Mr_Rabies3what are warlocks whining about?
18:28.17ralfWORKMr_Rabies3: lifetap changes
18:28.31Mr_Rabies3wah
18:28.40ralfWORKinorite
18:28.58Mr_Rabies3i wish i had a button to trade 20% hp for 20% mana
18:28.59Mr_Rabies3i'd be a rich man
18:29.07ralfWORKno shit
18:29.13Mr_Rabies3because of the whole infinite loop thing
18:29.14Mr_Rabies3but yanno
18:29.42ralfWORKhmm...
18:30.46ralfWORKdoes a health pot restore more health than a mana pot?
18:31.12zenzelezzyes, mana pots don't restore any health
18:31.18ralfWORKbleh. sorry.
18:31.28zenzelezzis that the best you can do? :(
18:31.29ralfWORKdoes a health pot restore more health than a mana pot restores mana
18:31.43batrickhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/04/funny-pictures-thats-not-a-lolrus-thats-my-wife/
18:31.51ralfWORKbatrick: I like that one alot
18:32.14batrickhaha
18:33.39ralfWORKso... did I stump the chump?
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18:39.14Maldivialol... the devs are using spells as pseudo-IM ?
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18:51.44KasoWhatcha mean Maldivia ?
18:57.12Lunessa... station.
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19:07.47Lunessahttp://xkcd.com/392/
19:10.25mikmahttp://xkcd.com/376/
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19:31.22foxlithttp://xkcd.com/391/
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19:40.01zenzelezzso I log on to ICQ for the first time in... five years? And within hours I get a message "my sister has been nagging me to get a hold of you" o_O
19:40.11nevcairiellol
19:40.32ralfWORKICQ was horrible
19:41.04ralfWORKcan't believe it still exists, honestly
19:41.19zenzelezzI disagree. It turned bad, but at first it was pretty decent at the time. These days it lacks a lot, but having a multi-protocol client I don't see a reason not to use it when I still have an account
19:41.43ralfWORKlast I recall
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19:41.49ralfWORKit didn't have anything like IM
19:41.54ralfWORKit was more like SMS
19:42.03zenzelezzit always was, just longer messages
19:42.28zenzelezzI stopped upgrading after 2000a
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19:42.38LopeppeppyLike many other things, I had to get ICQ for work-from-home communication.
19:43.09ralfWORKheh
19:43.12amroI never used it. I didn't get why you had to memorize your ID
19:43.30ralfWORKmemorizing numbers ftl
19:43.49Gnarfozmulti-protocol clients ftw
19:44.55LopeppeppyExactly.  Trillian handles my needs.
19:45.07ralfWORKadium, bitches
19:45.34amropfft. real hackers use raw TCP sockets
19:45.46ralfWORKnetcat > trillian
19:45.54amropidgin > *
19:46.06amroactually, kopete > pidgin > *
19:46.22ralfWORKkopete < netcat
19:48.33amrohttp://xkcd.com/341/ =)
19:53.28art3mishttp://www.nostradamusonline.com/sample_chapter.php
19:54.24Shirik|EcoleI think I intentionally write my code to make it difficult :(
19:54.40Shirik|Ecoleprivate static native long initChecker(File file);
19:54.51Shirik|Ecoleanyone think of any more keywords I can add to it?
19:55.43cog|workin java can you do long int as a synonym of long?
19:56.24Shirik|Ecolehm
19:56.25Shirik|Ecoleprobably
19:56.43Shirik|Ecoleapparently not :(
19:56.45Shirik|Ecoleoh well
19:57.40art3misyou could write it all in lolcat
19:57.53art3miswith on the fly rot13
19:57.57art3misand no whitespace
19:58.06art3misthat would make for fun times
19:58.38Shirik|Ecolehehehe
19:58.40Shirik|Ecolefd = reinterpret_cast<jlong>(POPEN(file, "rw"));
19:58.44Shirik|Ecolea valid use for reinterpret_cast!
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20:04.04nevcairielwhats jlong?
20:05.03viisualpfft reinterpret_cast
20:06.27nevcairielwhy would you just a file pointer to a jlong (i just assume jlong is java-long, so long long)
20:06.43Shirik|Ecolenevcairiel: a JNI
20:06.44nevcairiels/just/cast/
20:06.48Shirik|EcoleJNI type*
20:07.07Shirik|Ecolea jlong is 64 bits, and the problem is that a file descriptor doesn't really have a type in Java
20:07.10Shirik|Ecolethere is no pointer in Java
20:07.17Shirik|Ecoleso I'm just using a private long to store it
20:07.42nevcairielah
20:07.47nevcairieli see
20:07.55nevcairieland thats not possible with a normal cast? =P
20:10.23Shirik|Ecolenot in C++
20:10.38Shirik|Ecolethey differ in levels of indirection
20:10.44Shirik|EcoleAlso, I'm remembering how ugly it is to use JNI now :(
20:10.47Shirik|Ecoleenv->GetMethodID(clazz, "getAbsolutePath", "()Ljava/io/File;");
20:10.50Shirik|Ecoleand that's an easy example
20:10.59Shirik|Ecolethat third parameter is a pita
20:22.58art3misStephen Hawking: Master of the Universe
20:23.15ralfWORKtrue story
20:24.40Fisker-art3mis
20:24.45Fisker-i'm having sex with internet explorer 8
20:24.48Fisker-make a ui about that
20:25.20art3misi cant zoom in that much to be accurate
20:25.44Cairennooooh, cold
20:26.14Fisker-:(
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20:37.26ralfWORKwait uhm
20:37.37ralfWORKwhy are we secksing IE?
20:37.55ralfWORKI've wanted to rape IE before, but that's different
20:38.03Cairenn...
20:38.25ralfWORKit's true :(
20:38.57art3misralf you've got taht backwards
20:39.14art3misie fucks you many many times without permission
20:39.16ralfWORK"in russia, IE rapes you!"?
20:39.20ralfWORKoh ok
20:39.34art3missoemtimes you like it and it makes you giggle
20:39.40ralfWORKit doesn't rape as much as it molests
20:39.50ralfWORKlike my uncle bob
20:39.50art3misother times you wish that your dad wold walk in
20:40.24ralfWORKhe never does :(
20:40.35Nechcknyikes
20:40.43art3misthats what you get for growing up hillbilly
20:40.53ralfWORKwell
20:40.57ralfWORKtruth be told
20:41.03ralfWORKuncle bob is also my father
20:41.09ralfWORKD:
20:42.01Rayne|Jelly|: You there?
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20:45.37art3misspeaking of hillybilly father/uncle combos?
20:45.45NechcknEh hem...  Shirik  Missing daily pic update, amigo
20:46.25ralfWORK:D
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20:58.01ralfWORKhey
20:58.09art3misany of you chumps know of a mysql->mssql for vs8?
20:58.12ralfWORKdo any of you guys use web based guild event scheduling tools?
20:58.15art3misor if it handles it normally?
21:02.40kd3hup, new PTR client's available
21:02.50kd3geez! 83.6MB
21:03.02kd3are they shipping kitchen sinks again?
21:03.26deltroncrap 83.6MB PTR patch?
21:04.10kd3lua> 35+13+7.5+4.3+9.5+23+83.6
21:04.10lua_botkd3: 175.9
21:04.20kd3176MB of PTR patches... insanity
21:04.58nevcairieloh a new patch?
21:05.04nevcairielwtf is in 80mb
21:05.17Fisker-didn't they talk about a universal ptr patch?
21:05.27ralfWORKhrm
21:05.46kd3then it'd be a 176MB patch... WoW-0.4.0.7994-to-0.4.0.8016-enUS-patch.exe is 83.6MB alone
21:06.35kd3wtb a good peer
21:07.00ralfWORKI wonder if there is a raid signup thing with EPGP
21:07.38nevcairieli dont get any data on the enGB file
21:07.39nevcairielwtb
21:09.40deltronralfWORK: don't think there is
21:10.09ralfWORKdeltron: hmm. k.
21:10.19ralfWORKI need to get some web based signups going on
21:10.36ralfWORKbut I didn't want to be an idiot and write something that already exists
21:13.45deltronralfWORK: phpraider.com
21:14.02deltronhttp://sanctuary-guild.org/raid/ is what my old guild uses
21:15.13ralfWORKhmm. seems decent
21:15.20ralfWORKwhat do you think of it?
21:15.31deltronit's easy to use
21:15.37deltronI used to administer it
21:15.44ralfWORKok, that was my next question :)
21:15.44deltronthat site and stuff, not bad at all
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21:25.15CairennNSFW: http://www.break.com/index/how-to-get-rid-of-annoying-co-workers.html
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21:29.01Josh_Borkewell i just HAVE to look at it now
21:29.18Cairennfrikkin' hilarious, imo
21:29.25Fisker-that's barely nsfw :o
21:30.19Cairennsome traditional offices might not appreciate it, so better to put the tag on than get someone in trouble
21:31.01amrothat was too funny
21:31.22GngskI'm tellin' the boss!
21:31.51Fisker-i always masturbate with my boss
21:31.56Josh_Borkelol
21:32.38Josh_Borkevery funny though
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21:43.25TecnoBratdoes anyone know the name of a mod that made a worldmap out of minimap slices?
21:43.41ralfWORKCairenn: wtf
21:43.50kd3the beta of atlas2 did. dunno if it's still being worked on
21:44.11IndustrialYatlas
21:44.15Industrialdoesnt include BC
21:44.48TecnoBratIndustrial, thanks
21:45.46Industrialnp
21:46.05IndustrialI wish note addons worked with it ;)
21:46.26Industrialmainly TomTom *cough* clad|office *cough*
21:48.01ralfWORKphpraider looks cool
21:49.17deltronlulz
21:49.33deltronthe new version of phpraider he has coming out looks pretty sweet also
21:52.35kd3huh, it looks like the lock QQing payed off. Lifetap change was reverted
21:52.51ralfWORKpfft
21:52.54ralfWORKfuck locks
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21:55.23deltronnerfed shaman yet again :P
21:55.39ralfWORKwait you mean they don't get a MS?
21:56.37ralfWORKdeltron: btw, can this be installed standalone?
21:56.39ralfWORKit appears so
21:57.38ralfWORKdeltron: phpraider, that is
22:00.24deltronyes
22:00.33deltronyes to both :P
22:02.07ralfWORK:)
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22:05.30Cairennart3mis: you should have mail!
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22:11.48kd3ckknight, Guillotine, ScytheBlade1, Duman: diff email incoming. if anyone else wants a copy of the 7994-8016 diffs, /msg me an email address
22:12.14Guillotinekd3: thanks <3
22:12.18nevcairielno hosted web thing anymore?
22:12.27nevcairielanyway
22:12.29kd3don't have access to that server any more
22:12.55Gngskhaste, ping
22:12.57Guillotineso I came up with the best, most geeky username/domain name
22:12.58nevcairieltoo bad
22:13.08hasteGngsk: pong
22:13.18Gngskis Maneki functional atm?
22:13.22hasteno idea
22:13.30hasteI haven't had the pleasure to test it yet
22:13.38hastebeen busy leveling :p
22:13.55GngskI have it and a style loaded, but the normal blizzy group loot frames show up
22:14.24hasteyes, the styles are LoD to prevent people from testing it for me
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22:14.36hastethat way I don't get any complains when it doesnt work
22:14.54kd3heh, whoops. they shipped another doodad for northrend
22:15.02GngskI hope you don't think *I'm* complaining!
22:15.30hasteno, this behaviour is very much intended! :3
22:15.50hasteI just don't want people to roll wrong / miss rolls in-case it doesn't work
22:16.03Gngskahh, okay, I could care less about that while I'm testing
22:16.12hastejust manually load it then
22:16.17GngskI did
22:16.22ImDulnudid you guys see the inscription they accidently added? o.O
22:16.23GngskI just stock pile ethereum keys, make a group and go to town
22:16.49kd3that got shipped in the very first PTR build according to wowhead's database
22:17.10ImDulnuI know, but people really just noticed it recently
22:18.11Gngskhaste, you've outdone yourself.
22:18.21hasteoh?
22:18.23Gngskshade is pure sex
22:18.26Gngskgotta run though, later
22:18.32hasteshade isn't my initial idea :)
22:18.36hastethank Lyn for that one
22:18.57hasteI have another minimalistic design in my for myself tho'
22:19.06kd3hah. figured
22:19.17kd374MB of the 83.6MB is sunwell/MT/IQD music
22:19.31ImDulnuwow, the patch is slow as hell :( 256k in about 10 mins
22:19.48hastenew PTR patch?
22:19.51ImDulnuyah
22:19.57kd37994-8016. 83.6MB
22:20.50kd3sweet. not going to be subjected to kara music starting bombing runs
22:21.07ImDulnuI love kara music
22:21.18kd3so do I, but it doesn't fit up in quel'danas
22:21.23ImDulnutrue
22:21.50Temanyone else unable to log in atm?
22:21.56Tem(stuck at authenticating)
22:22.05ImDulnuon live or PTR?
22:22.08Temlive
22:22.15Temwas there a ptr patch?
22:22.18ImDulnuyup
22:22.21LunessaYay for AppleCare.
22:22.21kd37994-8016. 83.6MB
22:22.47Temtime to go find out if they fixed icons yet
22:22.48kd3nope. live-side auth is working. just got to my char select screen
22:23.13Temkd3, litterally as you said that, I got through
22:25.20ckknightkd3: thanks for the diff
22:25.28kd3np
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22:33.27ImDulnuhmm, I wonder if CopyTable was made as a global function. it seems to be being used in a lot of places in the newest version
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22:38.29kd3huh... looks like they're getting ready for a spanish-localised version of WoW in the americas
22:38.34ImDulnuinteresting, they're actually converting a lot of the old code to use GUIDs
22:38.35kd3+ESMX = "Spanish (Latin American)";
22:40.13kd3and yes, CopyTabe() is global. defined at the end of UIParent.lua
22:40.42kd3s/Tabe/Table/
22:42.49ImDulnusweet, I can probably make use of that
22:43.09ImDulnuanyway, thanks for the diffs :)
22:44.23kd3huh.. the 5-man kael fight music uses the login screen lei motif
22:44.32ImDulnuhaha
22:44.47ImDulnuThey should really use the Lament of the Highborne again
22:44.58kd3it's there in some of the zone walking music
22:45.05ImDulnureeeally
22:45.16ImDulnuI have to explore the new areas more
22:45.46kd3that's what most of today's patch was... the final music
22:46.16kd3rather than no music for the first patches, a copy of eversong music which was using the lament of the highborne leimotif for the next few, or a version of the login screen for the last few builds
22:46.48Gnarfozhm, music is in now, looks like they're finalizing it, then
22:47.24ImDulnuhmm, the patch may come out sooner than I thought
22:47.51kd3I'm going to be shocked if it comes out before mid-april
22:48.43ImDulnuthats what I was thinking
22:48.59ImDulnubut, in the past, when they add music its usually only 2-3 weeks
22:49.12ImDulnuthen again, they reverted a lot of changes
22:49.56kd3ah, there's lament again. general magisters' terrace walking music
22:53.21kd3PTRs up
22:54.28ImDulnuty :D
22:54.48ImDulnu<3 my new nick. Though I doubt anybody gets it
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23:04.06alestaneSo, uh...what's up with this "Vorho" guy?
23:05.17alestaneAnd why exactly does he think he needs to present us all with HIGs?
23:05.32KalrothI prefer HUGs
23:06.54alestaneThey are better, yes. But some random poster in the UI forum is trying to drill human interface guidelines into the addon-author community.
23:07.34alestaneI'm of the opinion that all the things he recommends are in fact desirable, but by the LEGION is he an @$$!
23:09.26kd3<PROTECTED>
23:09.47Esamynn|Workhow so?
23:09.59foxlitPah
23:10.03kd3I'm skipping across the sky on what appears to be a dead hawk
23:10.09foxlitThe policy is "I wrote this because I needed it, if you don't, shoo."
23:12.05alestaneAlso, in my experience I can make a functional addon in about half an hour, an easily usable one in four or five hours.
23:12.31Esamynn|Worksounds about right
23:13.07alestaneSo while clean user interfaces are great, they're also the bulk of an author's work.
23:13.45alestaneThere's this weird black patch following my footsteps on the PTR.
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23:17.19alestaneDid they revert Life Tap on the PTR?
23:18.11kd3afaik
23:19.37ImDulnuhahaha
23:19.43ImDulnulook at our guild bank Info tab
23:20.06alestaneAnyone know how to fix the way the floor has turned all black?
23:21.25viisualA new videocard?
23:22.05alestaneI do need a new computer, but that's the only way to address that.
23:22.26viisualFrom your description at least, it sounds as if it is a texture mapping problem, possibly from footprints (kinda how illidain leaves that fiery trail when he walks, and snow has footprints)
23:22.49alestaneIt doesn't just follow me though. Large patches of the floor are black.
23:23.21viisualSS and upload it in under 7 minutes before I leave work =P
23:29.24alestaneviisual: try http://genjitsugames.com/images/ss1.jpeg
23:29.28alestaneTwo more coming
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23:31.33alestanehttp://genjitsugames.com/images/ss2.jpeg
23:31.40alestanehttp://genjitsugames.com/images/ss3.jpeg
23:32.30KalrothThat's most likely some driver issue
23:32.34KalrothDid you upgrade lately?
23:33.24alestaneIt's a Mac Mini with integrated video. I don't upgrade my drivers.
23:33.39alestaneDoesn't happen on live, those are from the PTR.
23:34.05viisualIt's one of two things.
23:34.25viisualLighting, or a bounding volume being displayed in a strange manner ;)
23:34.45viisualSo what alestane said, I would suggest upgrading drivers, and messing with any settings that deal w/ lighting
23:35.52viisualHope that helps in some manner ;) - going home to peeveepee!
23:36.46alestaneApparently it's not an isolated issue with Macs after the last PTR build.
23:37.17batrickShirik: ping
23:39.37ImDulnuThe guild bank info tab on our PTR guild is leet
23:43.33kd3lope; you in westfall right now?
23:44.13alestaneIt's a definite sideeffect of the "Character Shadows" setting AFAICT.
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23:47.16KyrinIn an addon, it uses 'RemoveChatWindowChannel' I believe hide the traffic in a channel from view... how do I do the opposide?
23:47.53Kyrinshould be a ', to' in there after believe
23:49.19Lunessa*sigh* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103813523&sid=1 - I want to chime in, but anything I say will be compounding the original poster's error of hubris and/or be even more condescending.  It's lose/lose/fail no matter what.
23:49.53Shirik|Ecoleanyone here know how to AC couple a signal?
23:49.58Shirik|Ecolerandom question but I figured I'd ask
23:50.16alestaneLunessa: Vorho?
23:50.21LunessaYeah.
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23:51.23LunessaSee, he's not entirely wrong about design.  But he's being an ass and refuses to see he's an ass.  And anything I say is going to sound like me saying, "You're an ass. But you have a point.  BUT YOU'RE AN ASS."
23:51.32alestaneA great example of badly presenting valid views.
23:52.21kd3oh wow... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103773379&postId=51032556993&sid=1#74103773379&postId=51032556993&sid=1#74
23:52.23alestane80% of the time I spend developing an addon goes into the UI, I'd say. The function is done in the first hour or so, but I have to edit the SavedVariables file to configure it.
23:52.45alestanekd3: phreaked link.
23:52.55kd3bah http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103773379&postId=51032556993&sid=1#74
23:52.58batricki'd say about 80% of addon development is making it so other people can use it :P
23:52.59Shirik|Ecolekd3: try to not link 500 times
23:53.00Shirik|Ecolekthx
23:53.11Kalrothbatrick: That's true for all applications.
23:53.23dylanmJesus druids in 2v2.
23:53.27batrickall user-friendly applications :P
23:53.30Shirik|Ecolekd3: interesting
23:53.33dylanmI didn't know it was that crazy.
23:53.50Lunessaalestane: Yeah.  The interface to a function is more work than the function itself usually.  Especially when people are accustomed to very polished and feature rich software.
23:54.17kd3lmao. digg: "First WoW: Wrath of the Lich king Inscription spell found"
23:55.00Tem|Workkd3, lol @ mage 2v2 representation
23:55.06kd3no kidding
23:55.22Tem|WorkI'm surprized to see warriors at less than 100 on 5v5, thought
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23:55.27Tem|Works/thought/though/
23:55.30kd3anyway, afk. grocery run
23:55.52CideTem|Work: drain teams :/
23:56.07Tem|WorkCide, warriors aren't good on drain teams?
23:56.13Tem|Work"lawl I dun use mana"
23:56.21Cideya but
23:56.29Cidehunters have ms too
23:56.37Cideand more importantly, viper sting
23:56.47Tem|Workso what, 2x hunter, lock, 2x priest?
23:56.49Wobinoh my god
23:56.50Wobinhttp://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_127127,00.html
23:56.58Cidethe backbone is usually hunter, lock, priest
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23:57.00Wobin... a meat patty, egg and bacon
23:57.07WobinON TWO GLAZED DONUTS
23:57.13Tem|Workdamn you Wobin
23:57.20Tem|WorkI'm fucking hungry now
23:57.39Wobinwho the fuck eats a donut hamburger?
23:57.47NightHawkTheSanei totally would
23:57.48Tem|Workdude, eggs & bacon on hamburger is awesome
23:57.55Tem|Workadding donuts is a natural extension
23:58.00NightHawkTheSane^^
23:58.01WobinTem|Work: oh no doubt about the first
23:58.21Tem|Workanyway, I've gotta run to work
23:58.22WobinI tend to find however, that donuts don't have the structural stability of a bread bun
23:58.27Tem|WorkI'll remote to my machine from there
23:58.35NightHawkTheSaneWobin: so you've actually tried this, then? :P
23:58.41LunessaOMG - That's a heart-attack on a plate.  MUST HAVE ONE
23:58.56WobinNightHawkTheSane: er... purely speculation on my part
23:59.32NightHawkTheSaneWobin: suuuuure.
23:59.35Wobinhttp://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/826059,CST-NWS-bagban05.article
23:59.40WobinOh now -that- is forward thinking =P
23:59.49WobinStop DRUGS IN THEIR TRACKS!

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