| 00:00.09 | alestane | That's like the Egg Salad Donut at the Mr. Donuts in Japan. |
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| 00:03.52 | Lunessa | omg... what will I store my wargame chits in now? |
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| 00:09.32 | Wobin | Lunessa: they're clearly a DRUG |
| 00:10.03 | Lunessa | Clearly. I've been addicted since '79. I'm going to burn in hell. I need a program. |
| 00:11.19 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: ping! |
| 00:12.24 | Adys | acid3 finally released :o |
| 00:13.50 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: pong! |
| 00:13.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Also help me with my AC coupling circuit :< |
| 00:14.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I can't figure it out |
| 00:14.41 | batrick | I don't remember what that is |
| 00:14.58 | batrick | BTW, we're going to have some really shitty problems sharing functions with upvalues |
| 00:15.06 | Shirik|Ecole | yay. |
| 00:15.35 | batrick | shitty to the point where we might as well dump the function and just load it in the other state |
| 00:19.58 | Shirik|Ecole | eh |
| 00:20.04 | Shirik|Ecole | let me think about it |
| 00:20.08 | Shirik|Ecole | trying to finish this circuit real quick |
| 00:20.12 | Shirik|Ecole | there has to be a better solution |
| 00:20.16 | Shirik|Ecole | I'd prefer to conserve upvalues |
| 00:20.40 | batrick | consider a function that sets an upvalue with a value passed to it |
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| 00:21.52 | viisual | Get that gfx problem fixed? |
| 00:23.10 | alestane | Turning off CHaracter shadows makes it go away until they're turned back on. |
| 00:25.12 | Wobin | ... |
| 00:25.14 | Wobin | deep =) |
| 00:28.35 | kergoth | damnit, why does alliance always have the pvp spots in hellfire on this server, kinda hard to do that daily when you cant cap them back |
| 00:28.41 | kergoth | wtb mark of conquest |
| 00:28.55 | ImDulnu | I ended up having a horde capture them for me to get marks |
| 00:29.02 | ImDulnu | turned out to be Malgayne :P |
| 00:29.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:29.23 | kergoth | not a bad idea, maybe i'll get my bro to cap them for me |
| 00:29.36 | kergoth | i miss when you could do tha tquest multiple times a day, i hate that world pvp |
| 00:29.42 | kergoth | want the damn trinket and be done with it |
| 00:29.58 | ImDulnu | I still use the caster trinket at 70 on my priest |
| 00:30.07 | ImDulnu | though I really need to replace it |
| 00:30.22 | kergoth | figure that mana regen should help my hunter, at least until i get a few more mp5 items |
| 00:30.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:35.15 | Antiarc | Did the WoW forums die? |
| 00:37.36 | Cide | no |
| 00:37.43 | Cide | speaking of the wow forums, I love this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103823445&sid=1 |
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| 00:41.41 | Shirik|Ecole | thanks Cide |
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| 00:45.00 | haste | awesome topic is awesome |
| 00:51.48 | Th3Unkn0wn | is there any way to write two different /rw messages depending on whether the macro was left or right clicked? |
| 00:52.36 | MentalPower | yes, but the logic won't fit in a macro |
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| 00:54.32 | Th3Unkn0wn | what would the logic be? |
| 00:55.32 | Th3Unkn0wn | actually, would it end up using SendChatMessage? |
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| 00:57.17 | alestane | Get MacroTalk and use /optsay. |
| 00:58.10 | alestane | Or unless your messages are very long you could probably fit it into a script. |
| 00:58.21 | Th3Unkn0wn | hmm |
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| 00:58.46 | Th3Unkn0wn | I want the message to be "<name> <class> BLINDED" |
| 00:58.58 | Th3Unkn0wn | but be it target or focus, depending on left or right click |
| 00:59.44 | Th3Unkn0wn | omg MacroTalk, hotness, I just read the desc |
| 00:59.49 | Th3Unkn0wn | tyvm, alestane |
| 00:59.58 | alestane | That will make it much easier onyou. |
| 01:00.16 | alestane | And it's very lightweight, only affects run time for chat messages. |
| 01:00.22 | Th3Unkn0wn | beautiful |
| 01:00.47 | Cide | clicking is so slow :/ |
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| 01:01.57 | Gngsk | haste, ping |
| 01:02.06 | haste | Gngsk: pong |
| 01:02.19 | Gngsk | wondering how you plan on doing the saveposition and loadposition stuff |
| 01:02.25 | Gngsk | if you've yet to give it any thought |
| 01:02.40 | haste | it will be added, but I don't even know if it works at the moment :p |
| 01:03.16 | Gngsk | well, in the rev on your gcode those functions are declared but don't do anything, I coded in some hard stuff to loadposition for myself, was just curious how you were going to do it |
| 01:03.20 | Gngsk | guess I will just have to wait and see |
| 01:03.55 | haste | I haven't really tested the maneki on gcode at all |
| 01:04.14 | haste | so it's state is pretty much "to be completed, when tested" |
| 01:04.20 | Gngsk | ahh, is it not mostly your code? I didn't really look at the svn log |
| 01:04.28 | Gngsk | it works just fine, the only thing missing really is the position code |
| 01:04.43 | haste | it is, but I completly redid it a while ago |
| 01:05.00 | Gngsk | ahh, so you have a much different working copy? |
| 01:06.02 | haste | no, my working copy is the same |
| 01:06.15 | haste | the latest SVN (and the last fix to it) was all drycoded |
| 01:06.24 | Gngsk | ahh, ok |
| 01:06.34 | Gngsk | you did a good job then, heh |
| 01:07.27 | haste | *stabs SVN* |
| 01:07.49 | Gngsk | I did notice one time when I rolled all the frames appeared and faded out real quick, but I haven't been able to reproduce it |
| 01:08.02 | haste | last change was 31.12, so it's just before I started leveling my priest |
| 01:08.24 | Gngsk | what level are you now? |
| 01:08.31 | haste | it hit 70 last week |
| 01:08.38 | haste | or so |
| 01:08.48 | Gngsk | nice, priests are fun, you planning to heal or melt faces? |
| 01:08.56 | haste | only melting atm |
| 01:09.02 | Gngsk | cool |
| 01:09.21 | Gngsk | you should try healing, I bet you could come up with some interesting ideas for addons |
| 01:09.38 | haste | I played as a resto shaman from release to naxx |
| 01:09.46 | Gngsk | ahh, that's right |
| 01:10.41 | haste | but hopefully I'm able to spend more time on add-ons now, since I'm not too found of doing quests for ages at the moment :p |
| 01:10.58 | Gngsk | sounds good |
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| 01:21.36 | ImDulnu | 100g on the PTR to whoever can guess what my name means :P |
| 01:22.04 | Cide | you're dull. |
| 01:24.08 | ImDulnu | ~lart Cide |
| 01:24.08 | purl | decapitates Cide conan the destroyer style |
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| 01:29.19 | DBE-Kinj | Hey Everyone! I'm in the process of finding someone who would be interested in making a add-on. From what I've been told it's a fairly simple/fairly quick add-on to be created. If you are interested in more details feel free to message me. (You will be compensated for your time and effort). Thanks! |
| 01:30.07 | JoshBorke | that's not vague at all |
| 01:30.14 | JoshBorke | just say what you want done |
| 01:30.42 | Elessdy | i want my penis to grow 3 inches whenever i crit |
| 01:30.45 | Elessdy | oh. too late! |
| 01:32.56 | WobWork | I dunno |
| 01:33.02 | WobWork | I suspect that would lead to internal tearing |
| 01:33.05 | WobWork | and that's never good =( |
| 01:33.17 | DBE-Kinj | The project is for an addon that will be used for data-collection. |
| 01:34.19 | AnduinLothar | 370is the resist cap, right? |
| 01:34.37 | Corrodias | 75% whatever that is |
| 01:35.02 | kergoth | any hunters around have an opinion on wind serpents? I'm getting kind of annoyed with the way he backs up to hit the lightning at times, should i take it off of autocast and add it to the rotation macro? |
| 01:35.20 | Cairenn | DBE-Kinj: you'd do better to just tell people what you are looking for |
| 01:35.27 | DBE-Kinj | I thought it was 315 |
| 01:35.38 | Cairenn | you'll get a lot more response than if you try to do it in PMs |
| 01:36.25 | Corrodias | yes, kergoth, that's the usual way of using LB |
| 01:36.30 | Corrodias | *popular |
| 01:36.50 | kergoth | still leveling, couldnt really do that before getting steady, but thinking mayb ei should do that now |
| 01:36.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:36.53 | Corrodias | i know there's a macro around for it, but i don't know what it is |
| 01:36.55 | kergoth | okay, i'll try it out |
| 01:36.57 | kergoth | thanks |
| 01:37.05 | Corrodias | it can be found on wowwiki, i'm sure |
| 01:37.55 | kergoth | tempting to give up and go with a ravager or something, but i leveled this guy from 46, i'd hate to abandon him :) though he is still unnamed, poor identityless pet |
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| 01:38.16 | Tuller | gorila |
| 01:38.19 | Tuller | err gorilla |
| 01:40.14 | Corrodias | well |
| 01:40.44 | Corrodias | windserpents don't really overtake cats/ravagers/raptors/etc in dps until you have a high enough ranged attack power, as i understand. and crit, to feed their focus. |
| 01:41.08 | Corrodias | and then are useless against nature-immune bosses, although you can selectively avoid the use of a windserpent on those or just put up with lower dps |
| 01:41.14 | kergoth | hmm, true |
| 01:41.47 | Corrodias | and i don't think that point is reached until early SSC level, though i'm not sure. this is just based off vague blog entries |
| 01:42.10 | DBE-Kinj | Kerg, why don't you just stable him in the mean time? |
| 01:43.27 | kergoth | i'm running out of stable slots, still have my old bat that i was thinking i /might/ level for solo, screech can be handy.. i'm just torn is all :) |
| 01:43.44 | DBE-Kinj | ahh ok |
| 01:44.13 | Gngsk | i always wondered why there's only 2 stable slots |
| 01:44.17 | kergoth | i sorta had a white flying pet theme going, have that rare white bat from tirisfal :) |
| 01:44.19 | Gngsk | or can you buy more? |
| 01:44.24 | kergoth | i think everyone has |
| 01:44.32 | kergoth | 2 is max |
| 01:44.41 | Gngsk | that seems strange to me |
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| 01:44.59 | kergoth | so youc an only really ever have 2 pets, have to keep one slot open for training any new abilities that show up |
| 01:44.59 | Gngsk | would it really be OP to have more or what? |
| 01:45.13 | Gngsk | yah |
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| 01:45.27 | Nechckn | I don't think so.. but I'm sure all the non-hunters would complain. |
| 01:45.28 | Gngsk | I leveled 1-70 with the same pet and keep him around for old time's sake |
| 01:45.41 | DBE-Kinj | hah... me too Gngsk |
| 01:45.42 | Gngsk | but I'm considering abandoning him to level something else |
| 01:46.13 | Gngsk | well, not 1-70, 10-70, but you get the idea |
| 01:47.04 | kergoth | what pet is he? |
| 01:47.40 | Gngsk | white wolf named joey |
| 01:47.46 | kergoth | nice |
| 01:47.54 | kergoth | my horde hunter leveled with a boar, then switched to a scorpid and finally a cat (though the boar is still in the stables). alliance took the bat (named Renfield) from 11 to 46, then the serpent to where he is now |
| 01:47.58 | Gngsk | dwarf hunter, so I picked him up near kharanos |
| 01:48.33 | Gngsk | boar's seem fun, I messed around with one just to level the charge skill |
| 01:48.48 | Gngsk | and I have a scorpid for pvp, never tried a cat though |
| 01:49.01 | Nechckn | I picked up a gorilla on my PVP 59 hunter about 40 and I really like him... |
| 01:49.01 | kergoth | charge is crazy threat, like 4k right off the bat |
| 01:49.04 | kergoth | but when its on cd, you're hosed |
| 01:49.20 | Nechckn | the boars are nice for that- charge helps alot |
| 01:49.36 | Cairenn | IE8 available now: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/internet_explorer_8_has_arrived.php |
| 01:49.59 | Nechckn | woo hoo.. thanks Cairenn! |
| 01:50.13 | Nechckn | I've been waiting for someone to put up a copy somewhere |
| 01:50.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, new build. I honestly wasn't expecting that. |
| 01:50.43 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, hellfire and damnation. Another IE to scrod up my new designs. I'm so not excited. |
| 01:51.00 | Antiarc | Cairenn: While I'm really happy, it means that I now have to test on YET ANOTHER platform :( |
| 01:51.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap 80MB |
| 01:51.03 | AnduinLothar | wtf, rly? |
| 01:51.11 | AnduinLothar | does that mean i can stop supporting ie6? |
| 01:51.19 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: no :D |
| 01:51.22 | AnduinLothar | fuck! |
| 01:51.26 | Nechckn | ha... not likely AnduinLothar |
| 01:51.29 | AnduinLothar | ie6 gives me nightmares |
| 01:51.41 | Antiarc | IE6 is the spawn of Satan. |
| 01:51.44 | AnduinLothar | ie6 gets it's own damn stylesheet every time |
| 01:51.56 | Antiarc | Yup. |
| 01:52.11 | art3mis | they're all spawns of satan |
| 01:52.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | make a stylesheet that tiles goatse every 200 pixels for ie6 users imo |
| 01:52.21 | Antiarc | IE7 is at least workable most of the time |
| 01:52.29 | art3mis | 5.5 is just less annoying cuyz it grew out of the teens ;P |
| 01:52.33 | Antiarc | Though its block formatting context definition still blows chunks |
| 01:53.42 | art3mis | http://www.rlslog.net/warhammer-40000-dawn-of-war-soulstorm-reloaded-proper-crackonly-vitality/ |
| 01:53.58 | art3mis | ignore the warez part of that |
| 01:54.11 | art3mis | and ooo and ahhhh over a new wh40k ;P |
| 01:54.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:54.30 | ScytheBlade1 | W40k is epic |
| 01:55.17 | art3mis | yeah |
| 01:57.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, sorry for being "so late" - but the diffs are up: http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/0.4.0.7994-8016.diff |
| 01:57.38 | ScytheBlade1 | (Or, at least, now they're hosted) |
| 01:58.15 | art3mis | there's no excuse for being late! |
| 01:58.24 | art3mis | especially if you're a girl |
| 01:58.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Unless that excuse is War3 and Warhammer 40k |
| 01:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Sooooo |
| 01:58.36 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 01:58.40 | art3mis | no |
| 01:58.45 | art3mis | thats not an excuse though |
| 01:58.54 | art3mis | thats a legitimate reason ;P |
| 02:01.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Craptastic speeds on the torrent. Probably because I didn't get it before the rush though. :/ |
| 02:03.50 | kd3 | lua>85*3/4 |
| 02:03.50 | lua_bot | kd3: 63.75 |
| 02:04.04 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: heh, that RSS feed just updated. |
| 02:04.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure you're the only one looking at it |
| 02:04.39 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa4Xn0mOdJ4&feature=related |
| 02:05.16 | Gngsk | what's so funny about it? |
| 02:05.29 | Gngsk | omg, lolz |
| 02:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | +<li>The daily quest Escape from Skettis has had its reward tuned down. |
| 02:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Die devs |
| 02:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Die |
| 02:06.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Everyone hates that quest, and all you do is continually nerf it! |
| 02:06.24 | Gngsk | wtb translation |
| 02:06.50 | Gngsk | ScytheBlade1, with the 25 cap and the nerf people won't do it anymore |
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| 02:07.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Gngsk: I stopped doing it after about two days. But still. arg. |
| 02:10.47 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.45 | ScytheBlade1 | And holy crap, our guild bank tab IS leet. |
| 02:19.14 | Tem|Work | ScytheBlade1, pics or id didn't happen |
| 02:19.22 | batrick | If you update svn with a new revision, do you have to checkout again, or does it know you are working with the newest revision? |
| 02:20.23 | Gngsk | batrick, you mean commit? |
| 02:20.29 | batrick | yes |
| 02:20.33 | MentalPower | if you mean commit, then all you need is update |
| 02:20.44 | MentalPower | svn update |
| 02:21.41 | batrick | Will that remove any changes i've made to my working copy? |
| 02:22.10 | batrick | nvm guess not |
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| 02:25.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: I like what you did with the first tab |
| 02:25.34 | Guillotine | lol |
| 02:25.41 | Guillotine | my characatures |
| 02:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Well that too |
| 02:25.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I meant the item ary |
| 02:25.51 | Guillotine | oh |
| 02:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | *art |
| 02:25.53 | Guillotine | hehe |
| 02:26.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I left a response in tab 2 :P |
| 02:26.07 | Guillotine | oh, we have a second tab now? |
| 02:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | As of about two minutes ago |
| 02:29.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: ping |
| 02:30.54 | art3mis | http://xkcd.com/87/ |
| 02:37.58 | art3mis | im sorry guys come back i wotn paste about raptors anymore! |
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| 02:39.11 | kd3 | lmao. that's awesome |
| 02:50.37 | Sixen_ | What's up with the Guild Bank tab? |
| 02:51.41 | Lopeppeppy | It ate too much salami and is angry? What do you mean, what's up with it? |
| 02:51.41 | Sixen_ | Everyone's talking about how "leet" it is. |
| 02:51.41 | art3mis | id be angry at you too |
| 02:51.48 | art3mis | you == it |
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| 02:55.21 | Tem|Work | ScytheBlade1, I'm at work and can't load up my ptr client |
| 02:55.26 | Tem|Work | screenshots of guildbank plox |
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| 02:57.11 | Sixen_ | agreed |
| 03:03.57 | Cide | yeah wtf |
| 03:04.06 | Cide | someone post a screenshot already |
| 03:04.17 | Gngsk | okay okay, fine, gimmie a sec |
| 03:06.14 | DBE-Kinj | Any Add-on Editors on? I'm looking for someone to code an add-on idea I have. It falls under the category of Data collection/display on a timed basis. If you are interested please message me! (You will be compensated for your time and efforts). Thanks! |
| 03:06.22 | Gngsk | oh, dur, I guess I don't have anything to take a screenshot of, gg |
| 03:07.38 | Cide | DBE-Kinj: you probably want to state how much you are willing to pay |
| 03:08.53 | DBE-Kinj | I have a large budget for the project. Most coders prefer to work at an hourly rate so that's usually how we work it out after they understand the size of the project. |
| 03:09.24 | DBE-Kinj | I was informed it wasn't that large of a project though. |
| 03:09.38 | Cide | you're avoiding my question :P |
| 03:09.52 | WobWork | http://acid3.acidtests.org/ |
| 03:09.59 | art3mis | dont feel bad cide, you should be used to that by now ;P |
| 03:10.03 | WobWork | FF3B3 gets to 60/100 |
| 03:10.20 | MentalPower | current FF2 gets to 49/100 |
| 03:10.29 | MentalPower | or at least mine does |
| 03:10.33 | DBE-Kinj | how am I avoiding your question? |
| 03:10.47 | Tem|Work | DBE-Kinj, btw, I'm personally insulted by being called an "Editor" |
| 03:11.06 | DBE-Kinj | What do you prefer to be called? |
| 03:11.13 | Tem|Work | >< |
| 03:11.28 | Tem|Work | I was hoping you'd get the joke |
| 03:11.38 | kd3 | whee world server down |
| 03:11.46 | DBE-Kinj | I still don't get it =( |
| 03:11.48 | Tem|Work | oh well, my next guess is that you're not a native english speaker |
| 03:11.56 | MentalPower | DBE-Kinj: FYI, you can't do PMs in freenode if you're not registered |
| 03:12.05 | Kaso | Latest Webkit builds get 88/100 on the Acid3, looks almost right. http://img.waffleimages.com/b640d39cf53a0df55c3cbba040a19f99049012e8/webkit%20nightly%20-%20acid3.png |
| 03:12.08 | Tem|Work | though the rest of your text doesn't seem to indicate as such |
| 03:12.16 | Tem|Work | ScytheBlade1, damnit where are my screenshots |
| 03:12.22 | DBE-Kinj | How do I register? |
| 03:12.34 | MentalPower | ./msg nickserv register <password> |
| 03:12.39 | DBE-Kinj | I was referred to come here by another coder that didn't have the time for the project =\ |
| 03:12.41 | MentalPower | ./msg nickserv identify <password> |
| 03:14.01 | art3mis | you fergot to but on yer jerk repellant ;P |
| 03:14.43 | art3mis | but/put |
| 03:15.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem|Work: lol |
| 03:15.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem|Work: I'm pretty lazy |
| 03:15.52 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: pong |
| 03:15.58 | Tem|Work | omg its the omen guy |
| 03:16.02 | kd3 | whee for getting back on the realm before the NPCs spawned. got the zone-wide yell announcing K'iru's arrival |
| 03:16.06 | Antiarc | ~lart Tem|Work |
| 03:16.06 | purl | slaps Tem|Work around with a large trout |
| 03:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: are all of those characters in the guild on accounts you directly own? |
| 03:16.50 | Antiarc | No, Arna is a friend's |
| 03:16.56 | Antiarc | Mckinsey is my wife's |
| 03:16.58 | Antiarc | The others are mine |
| 03:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I just don't want random people popping in with full access to everything (which that rank has) |
| 03:17.27 | Antiarc | That's fine. They're both trustworthy, though |
| 03:17.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't worry about it then |
| 03:18.03 | Cide | soooo |
| 03:18.04 | Antiarc | Arna is a guild master on the live servers, so he's cool and stuff :) |
| 03:18.12 | Cide | someone screenshot the guild bank tab |
| 03:19.10 | Tem|Work | srsly |
| 03:19.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I just wanted to make sure that was the case :) |
| 03:19.42 | Antiarc | Certainly |
| 03:19.46 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 03:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course, I should have asked before I mass promoted, but hey, lesson learned |
| 03:20.41 | Antiarc | Hahah |
| 03:20.50 | WobWork | http://www.nbc6.net/community/15504730/detail.html?rss=ami&psp=news |
| 03:20.51 | WobWork | woohoo |
| 03:20.54 | Antiarc | Well, I can safely say that neither my wife or Arna is going to abuse any power :) |
| 03:20.54 | WobWork | \o/ |
| 03:21.02 | WobWork | That's us, btw, running that |
| 03:21.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, no worries |
| 03:21.06 | AlexanderYoshi | What the hell was up with that guy offering work without specification + hourly rate anyhow? |
| 03:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | AlexanderYoshi: where? |
| 03:21.51 | AlexanderYoshi | Some guy in this channel was asking for ppl to do work without a spec |
| 03:21.54 | AlexanderYoshi | like 20 mins ago |
| 03:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:22.12 | WobWork | He might have had a spec |
| 03:22.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Always makes one incredibly curious just what kind of work they're asking for |
| 03:22.22 | WobWork | but he wasn't too clear about what he actually wanted |
| 03:22.36 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: That happens all the time :P |
| 03:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And my mind always defaults to "sploits!" and "play the game for me!" |
| 03:23.01 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Thelyna (n=burp@222-152-9-26.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 03:23.09 | Antiarc | It's usually just someone that has this idea for an OMG AWESOME ADDON that they want to charge for |
| 03:23.22 | Antiarc | And they don't want to give away any specifics because they think someone will steal their idea |
| 03:24.31 | WobWork | Antiarc: I've got this great idea about an addon that tracks threat... but don't tell anyone, I don't want them stealing my idea |
| 03:24.48 | AlexanderYoshi | Doesn't matter. Even if you have a great idea, greatness is not just inspiration, its the work done to polish it to a shine |
| 03:24.51 | AlexanderYoshi | OMH |
| 03:24.52 | AlexanderYoshi | OMG |
| 03:24.55 | AlexanderYoshi | Antiarc! |
| 03:24.58 | AlexanderYoshi | You did Omen right? |
| 03:24.59 | WobWork | I'll call it CarboniteThreat |
| 03:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:25.02 | MentalPower | oh dear... |
| 03:25.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Rite?? |
| 03:25.19 | AlexanderYoshi | OMG you gotta hear my awesome idea! |
| 03:25.28 | WobWork | Does it involve ponies? |
| 03:25.31 | AlexanderYoshi | Yes |
| 03:25.34 | AlexanderYoshi | and rainbows |
| 03:25.38 | AlexanderYoshi | and candy mountain |
| 03:25.39 | WobWork | Must be awesomet then |
| 03:25.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Then we're ALL interested. |
| 03:25.51 | Lunessa | Don't worry about people stealing ideas, they're generally too lazy and resistant to original thought. |
| 03:26.06 | AlexanderYoshi | Hey Antiarc, seriously, are you still in the channel? |
| 03:26.09 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 03:26.19 | art3mis | just dont believe the unicorn when he asks you to polish his horn for the creamy goodness spray |
| 03:26.23 | AlexanderYoshi | I have a request |
| 03:26.34 | Antiarc | Sure, hit me. |
| 03:26.36 | AlexanderYoshi | I will beg and plead with you to do this simple thing for me. |
| 03:26.49 | AlexanderYoshi | Add an option to disable the right click menus and the drag-out features. |
| 03:26.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:26.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Seconded |
| 03:27.01 | AlexanderYoshi | I hate them, they accidentally get dragged all of the time and it makes me hurt. |
| 03:27.01 | Lunessa | art3mis: Is there any day that goes by where you don't make a strange and convoluted sexual innuendo? |
| 03:27.08 | Tem|Work | (lol, "omg it's the omen guy") |
| 03:27.09 | Antiarc | Locking Omen should do that already |
| 03:27.17 | AlexanderYoshi | See, I have no idea how to actually do that |
| 03:27.19 | Antiarc | But I'm completely reworking that for the 2.4 branch |
| 03:27.20 | AlexanderYoshi | I just drag it around |
| 03:27.24 | Antiarc | Right click the frame |
| 03:27.26 | Antiarc | "Lock" |
| 03:27.27 | Antiarc | :P |
| 03:27.27 | Tem|Work | AlexanderYoshi, it's in the LawlDewdrop |
| 03:27.45 | AlexanderYoshi | And it will NEVER let me drag those threat bars by accident? |
| 03:27.55 | AlexanderYoshi | the ones that get stuck to my hmouse |
| 03:28.03 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 03:28.03 | AlexanderYoshi | and make me reload UI mid-combat |
| 03:28.10 | Tem|Work | a perfect example of why DewDrop is an f'ing terrible excuse for user interface |
| 03:28.20 | Antiarc | If it's locked, no, you can't drag out bars |
| 03:28.26 | AlexanderYoshi | HURRAY |
| 03:28.31 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm telling my guild |
| 03:28.33 | Tem|Work | what happens if you drag out bars? |
| 03:28.34 | Antiarc | I'm completely redoing that for 2.4 |
| 03:28.43 | Antiarc | Because the current implementation is half baked and sucks |
| 03:29.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem|Work: just make a level one alt on the PTR and I'll /ginvite you so you can look yourself |
| 03:29.28 | AlexanderYoshi | Sweet |
| 03:29.34 | AlexanderYoshi | Thanks, Antiarc |
| 03:29.35 | Tem|Work | ScytheBlade1, I've got characters in the guild already |
| 03:29.39 | AlexanderYoshi | that feature has been the bane of my existence |
| 03:29.39 | Tem|Work | ScytheBlade1, I'm not at home |
| 03:29.43 | Tem|Work | so I can't log in |
| 03:29.50 | Tem|Work | (as per the |Work tag) |
| 03:29.50 | Antiarc | I don't use it myself |
| 03:29.54 | Antiarc | But some people absolutely adore it |
| 03:29.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, okay, that makes sense |
| 03:29.57 | Antiarc | So *shrug* |
| 03:29.59 | Tem|Work | what is the feature? |
| 03:30.04 | Tem|Work | I dont' really use omen |
| 03:30.11 | Tem|Work | I think it's a silly crutch |
| 03:30.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I actually use it when the situation works for me. It's useful in a selective number of places |
| 03:30.23 | Antiarc | You can drag out a specific person's bar, and it shows a you vs them overlay bar |
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| 03:30.37 | Tem|Work | I find it interesting to look at the threat numbers after the fight, though |
| 03:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | With relative TPS values |
| 03:30.47 | Tem|Work | ah, neat |
| 03:30.48 | Cide | soo |
| 03:30.53 | Cide | how about that screenshot? |
| 03:30.54 | AlexanderYoshi | I don't mind the feature being there, but I abhor how I can drag it out without knowing what i'm doing |
| 03:31.00 | Antiarc | I'd love to store threat and TPS over time, but that would be insane amounts of memory usage growth |
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| 03:31.12 | art3mis | Lunessa: it happens about as often as you miss the same style of comment ;) |
| 03:31.27 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: god damnit |
| 03:31.29 | AlexanderYoshi | I would be OK if it simply kept the values when combat ended and didn't reset them until the enxt combat started |
| 03:31.31 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: what server and faction? |
| 03:31.33 | AlexanderYoshi | but w/e |
| 03:31.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: what'd I do? |
| 03:31.39 | Cide | you were lazy |
| 03:31.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: US PvE Alliance PTR |
| 03:32.00 | AlexanderYoshi | whoa |
| 03:32.04 | AlexanderYoshi | cide pulling out the big L bomb |
| 03:32.16 | Cide | yep |
| 03:32.21 | Antiarc | My primary concern there would be that it recycles all the threat tables a few seconds after combat ends, which would be a potential CPU slowdown, which is bad right hwen combat starts |
| 03:32.22 | Tem|Work | AlexanderYoshi, we've been asking for screenshots for like an hour |
| 03:32.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 03:32.40 | ScytheBlade1 | In my defense |
| 03:32.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm raiding now :P |
| 03:32.59 | Cide | I'm sleeping |
| 03:32.59 | art3mis | is that what the kids are calling it these days? |
| 03:33.00 | Cide | beat that |
| 03:33.35 | AlexanderYoshi | Screenshots of what? |
| 03:33.37 | AlexanderYoshi | My face? |
| 03:33.42 | Cide | you wish |
| 03:33.43 | Tem|Work | meh |
| 03:33.45 | ScytheBlade1 | AlexanderYoshi: the PTR guild bank |
| 03:33.47 | Tem|Work | been there done that |
| 03:34.02 | Tem|Work | Alex, your face is more interesting when I melt it |
| 03:34.03 | AlexanderYoshi | I do |
| 03:34.37 | ScytheBlade1 | AlexanderYoshi: hey, speaking of, what are the chances you could put a few hundred thousand gold in said guild bank? ;D |
| 03:36.27 | Cide | I'm onto my third patch |
| 03:36.31 | Cide | just to get this fucking screenshot |
| 03:36.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: lol |
| 03:36.43 | JoshBorke | what's this talk about guild bank? |
| 03:36.46 | Cide | you guys suck, honestly |
| 03:36.54 | ScytheBlade1 | If I knew why people cared I'd tell you, JoshBorke |
| 03:37.03 | AlexanderYoshi | ? |
| 03:37.12 | AlexanderYoshi | I would be fired within the hour |
| 03:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that's kind of what I guessed |
| 03:37.29 | JoshBorke | did alexander write a new ui for the gildbank? |
| 03:37.49 | AlexanderYoshi | me? |
| 03:37.49 | AlexanderYoshi | No |
| 03:37.56 | JoshBorke | but there is a new ui? |
| 03:37.57 | AlexanderYoshi | What changed? |
| 03:38.05 | JoshBorke | i don't know! |
| 03:38.08 | JoshBorke | that's what i want to know! |
| 03:38.13 | AlexanderYoshi | News to me! |
| 03:38.16 | Beladona | if you guys wait, wdnaddons has the new files up in a few seconds |
| 03:38.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: lol. read chat. |
| 03:38.26 | JoshBorke | TOO SLOW BELA! |
| 03:38.26 | Beladona | I had a lot of updates to do |
| 03:38.36 | Beladona | sorry, been kinda offline for 2 weeks |
| 03:38.53 | Guillotine | Sctyhe: what about it? |
| 03:39.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: all of the above is due to you, haha |
| 03:39.30 | Guillotine | oh |
| 03:39.31 | Guillotine | lol |
| 03:39.48 | Guillotine | damn, I forgot to include Alex in my charactures |
| 03:40.12 | Beladona | http://wdnaddons.com/0408016 |
| 03:40.14 | Beladona | done |
| 03:40.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: if you're still patching, I've got an HTTP mirror |
| 03:40.38 | Cide | oh, gee, thanks |
| 03:40.44 | Cide | could've just helped with the screenshot :P |
| 03:40.48 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a lot more effort than you'd believe to get a screenshot over to this box :P |
| 03:41.08 | Cide | meh |
| 03:41.09 | Cide | invite me |
| 03:41.12 | Cide | "Screensigher" |
| 03:41.18 | AlexanderYoshi | ?? |
| 03:41.28 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm nobdy |
| 03:41.43 | JoshBorke | that's what imageshack is for! |
| 03:41.53 | Guillotine | my fun with the guild bank owned |
| 03:42.03 | Guillotine | I love how just about nothing having to do with guilds is sanitized |
| 03:42.05 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm just a sad penguin with an overbite and lots of other unattractive features |
| 03:42.26 | *** join/#wowi-lounge |pez| (n=user@91.80-203-213.nextgentel.com) |
| 03:43.18 | |pez| | damnit, why do I have to be so damned annoyed by snoring |
| 03:43.56 | Tem|Work | Guillotine, so are you telling me I can get stuff through that damn filter on the guild bank tabs? |
| 03:44.00 | AlexanderYoshi | Because you were born that way? |
| 03:44.07 | Tem|Work | I _really_ wanted to have a tab named "Random Crap" |
| 03:44.07 | |pez| | What're you waiting for ScytheBlade1? :P |
| 03:44.08 | Tem|Work | but I can't |
| 03:44.12 | AlexanderYoshi | Wait a sec, aren't you that mean person who didn't drive her boyfriend to work? |
| 03:44.20 | Tem|Work | because that has "inappropriate" language |
| 03:44.24 | kergoth | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1196/ |
| 03:44.26 | ScytheBlade1 | |pez|: this channel to explode over "screenshots." Read up. |
| 03:44.39 | AlexanderYoshi | Where are the screenshots? |
| 03:44.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Coming, I'd assume |
| 03:44.51 | |pez| | how can I read up, I joined like... right before you said something |
| 03:44.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide is running to the bank as we speak |
| 03:45.08 | ScytheBlade1 | |pez|: so you did... in that case I'm much too lazy to explain :P |
| 03:45.18 | |pez| | Aha |
| 03:45.38 | Cide | www.cide.ws/media/tab1.jpg |
| 03:45.52 | Cide | www.cide.ws/media/tab2.jpg |
| 03:45.54 | |pez| | AlexanderYoshi: Yes, I am that mean person. I got him good dinner, so he forgave(?) me. |
| 03:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: pfft |
| 03:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: info button on page one |
| 03:46.05 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 03:46.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Note that you can scroll it down |
| 03:46.20 | Cide | I'm working on that one |
| 03:46.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay |
| 03:46.42 | |pez| | What's the info button thingie? |
| 03:46.49 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll see in a moment :) |
| 03:47.11 | Cide | www.cide.ws/media/info1.jpg |
| 03:47.12 | Cide | www.cide.ws/media/info2.jpg |
| 03:47.14 | Cide | www.cide.ws/media/info3.jpg |
| 03:47.29 | ScytheBlade1 | There we are |
| 03:47.44 | JoshBorke | heh, what is that? |
| 03:47.57 | ScytheBlade1 | What does it look like? ;) |
| 03:47.59 | AlexanderYoshi | Pez, you are forever memorialized in my memory as having a sad, crying boyfriend out in the cold snow now. |
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| 03:48.13 | AlexanderYoshi | oh hey |
| 03:48.18 | Cide | now I must sleep |
| 03:48.19 | AlexanderYoshi | I DID know about that new tab |
| 03:48.20 | |pez| | AlexanderYoshi: He wasn't sad and crying, he was angry and grumpy, but not at me! |
| 03:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:48.24 | Cide | ^ Tem|Work, make sure to take a look |
| 03:48.30 | JoshBorke | night |
| 03:48.38 | Cide | because I'm shutting that webserver down |
| 03:48.41 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o dolby-wowi] by ChanServ |
| 03:48.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:48.43 | Cide | in about 10 sec |
| 03:48.44 | Tem|Work | thanks, Cide |
| 03:48.52 | Cide | anytime |
| 03:50.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Hope you all enjoyed the screenshots |
| 03:50.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Anti-climatic much? ;) |
| 03:51.22 | Tem|Work | no, it was great |
| 03:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:51.56 | Beladona | what new tab? |
| 03:51.59 | Beladona | info? |
| 03:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:52.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Good thing Cide turned off his webserver! |
| 03:52.27 | WobWork | yeah =\ |
| 03:52.35 | WobWork | we might have seen that image =P |
| 03:53.10 | AlexanderYoshi | it was epic |
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| 03:55.21 | Beladona | mmm, yeah. you like that don't you |
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| 03:55.57 | Arcaia | I r need rogue question answered -> Fist/Sword - still viable? |
| 03:56.56 | AlexanderYoshi | Is the info tab real? |
| 03:57.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 03:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on the PTR |
| 03:57.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Log in and see for yourself, heh |
| 03:58.51 | WobWork | Beladona: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTby_e4-Rhg |
| 03:59.54 | Beladona | oh gawd |
| 04:00.10 | Beladona | if I ever get that nerdy, kill me |
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| 04:02.33 | Antiarc | Phoenix -> LA is about 6 hours, yes? |
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| 04:02.55 | Beladona | why, you gonna go to Blizzard and smack someone? |
| 04:03.03 | Antiarc | No, driving out for a guildmate's funeral :/ |
| 04:03.07 | Antiarc | Trying to plan when to leave |
| 04:03.08 | Beladona | oh |
| 04:03.27 | Beladona | 6 hours seems long for Pheonix to LA |
| 04:03.35 | Antiarc | Mayne it's 6 hours at the speed limit |
| 04:03.52 | Beladona | lol |
| 04:03.55 | Beladona | ok |
| 04:04.08 | Sixen_ | Cide, your website is down. |
| 04:04.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen_: that's because he went to bed |
| 04:04.23 | Sixen_ | Ah |
| 04:04.28 | Sixen_ | What's the "Info tab"? |
| 04:04.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Log in to the PTR and see, lol |
| 04:04.58 | Beladona | a tab that shows info |
| 04:05.02 | Beladona | sorry I couldn't resist |
| 04:05.06 | Sixen_ | Thanks. |
| 04:05.06 | Sixen_ | -.- |
| 04:05.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Beladona: you're exactly right, lol |
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| 04:08.06 | Sixen_ | Does everyone have access to the GB? |
| 04:09.58 | Beladona | its a guild permission set that allows or dissalows access to it. so the answer is "maybe" |
| 04:10.22 | Beladona | "depends" would also be accurate |
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| 04:14.40 | Gngsk | haste, ping |
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| 04:16.12 | MentalPower | awww... someone killed the info pane stuff |
| 04:16.43 | MentalPower | or not |
| 04:16.49 | MentalPower | I was looking at the wrong onw |
| 04:16.56 | MentalPower | one* |
| 04:17.39 | Tem|Work | oh lol |
| 04:17.39 | |pez| | I need to turn immune towards snoring! Waaah! >__> |
| 04:17.49 | Tem|Work | the Icy Viens tooltip is wrong |
| 04:17.52 | Tem|Work | it's backwards |
| 04:18.01 | |pez| | maybe I should buy earplugs or something. |
| 04:18.08 | Sixen | Haha |
| 04:18.19 | haste | Gngsk: pong |
| 04:18.28 | haste | (god why am I still up) |
| 04:18.42 | Tem|Work | "... and reduces chance to avoid interruption caused by damage by 100%" |
| 04:18.50 | |pez| | (I dunno, haste, why are you?) |
| 04:19.12 | haste | (It's 5AM :<) |
| 04:19.20 | |pez| | (indeed it is) |
| 04:20.00 | Gngsk | haste, suggesting an option to toggle between straight hiding frames and fading them, the fade is nice but it makes the frames show up when you might not want them to |
| 04:20.19 | Gngsk | of course, that's prolly not something you're gonna implement anytime soon, just a note while I've thought of it |
| 04:20.34 | |pez| | I know I'm up because the boyfriends snoring is keeping me awake. :P |
| 04:21.17 | Gngsk | roll him over |
| 04:21.27 | |pez| | he's already rolled over. |
| 04:21.38 | |pez| | if I stroke him, he stops, but then starts again when I stop. |
| 04:22.00 | |pez| | and I stop automagically when I'm about to fall asleep. |
| 04:22.12 | |pez| | but then he does a huge snore, and wakes me up again. |
| 04:22.27 | Gngsk | he's snoring while sleeping on his stomach? |
| 04:22.39 | |pez| | Gngsk: no, sideways. |
| 04:22.46 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 04:22.50 | |pez| | he doesn't like sleeping on his stomach |
| 04:23.00 | |pez| | I've never ever seen him do it. |
| 04:23.07 | |pez| | kd3? >__> |
| 04:23.19 | kd3 | you really want to know? |
| 04:23.23 | |pez| | Yes. |
| 04:23.29 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, kd3. |
| 04:23.36 | kd3 | "<|pez|> if I stroke him, he stops," |
| 04:23.49 | |pez| | tummystrokes. |
| 04:24.05 | |pez| | if I stroke other more private places, he'd just wake up and have his way ;P |
| 04:24.11 | Keias | at least I'm not the only one to catch that |
| 04:24.23 | Keias | then roll back over and sleep? |
| 04:24.23 | |pez| | perverts, all of you XD |
| 04:24.24 | Gngsk | i doubt anyone missed it |
| 04:24.28 | Keias | lol |
| 04:25.02 | |pez| | Keias: I'm unable to fall asleep. :P |
| 04:25.33 | haste | Gngsk: I didn't understand your arguemnt, but okey :p |
| 04:27.10 | kd3 | what the hell are "chips ahoy thin crisps"? |
| 04:27.16 | Lunessa | |pez|: Don't accuse us of thinking the natural thing. |
| 04:27.27 | |pez| | Lunessa: okok XD |
| 04:27.36 | |pez| | sowwy |
| 04:28.44 | |pez| | ahwell, the snoring from the bedroom seems to have stopped for a while now. |
| 04:28.51 | |pez| | I should attempt smeeping again. |
| 04:29.26 | Gngsk | haste, well I use a mod that auto rolls in certain situations, in those cases I don't want to see the loot frame, with the fadeout it shows for a split second, with hide it doesn't show at all |
| 04:30.00 | Keias | Good luck |pez| |
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| 04:30.53 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 04:30.57 | |pez| | Keias: thankyou ^^ |
| 04:32.05 | kd3 | oh, neat. some of blizz's webservers are running fedora |
| 04:32.32 | Lunessa | Night all. |
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| 04:56.34 | Tem|Work | ScytheBlade1, http://images.gammatester.com/pics/bf61dad02b805e4287151b6bdef055ce.jpg |
| 04:56.37 | MentalPower | ~lart winamp |
| 04:56.37 | purl | eats winamp's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
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| 05:02.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem|Work: hey, that's nice |
| 05:03.01 | Tem|Work | it's a little bit broken atm |
| 05:03.03 | Tem|Work | but I'm working on it |
| 05:03.14 | Tem|Work | the offsets get a screwed up when you have multiple icons on a line |
| 05:03.18 | Tem|Work | and that I can't figure out |
| 05:03.23 | Tem|Work | I think it's a Blizzard bug |
| 05:03.26 | Olison | Tem|Work: that's nice, keep us posted please :) |
| 05:03.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 05:05.39 | Tem|Work | btw, I've already released the addon |
| 05:05.55 | Tem|Work | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8287-ChatIcons.html |
| 05:09.09 | Olison | nice |
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| 05:18.50 | AlexanderYoshi | sweet mod |
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| 05:19.15 | Shirik|Ecole | Hello everybody!! |
| 05:19.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Did you miss me?! |
| 05:20.46 | Cairenn | lol, hi Shirik|Ecole |
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| 05:36.48 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:36.50 | WobWork | Brilliant Glass |
| 05:37.03 | WobWork | "You have quite a treasure in that there BRILLIANT GLASS"... |
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| 05:41.13 | Guillotine | wow, I just realized something about the commercial for "21", the movie about the kid from MIT who counts cards. It shows one part where a couple says what they want to buy and he tallys up the total cost in his head. Yet it shows those classic math symbols going around his head. My question is this: What the hell do sines, cosines, and integrals have to do with adding up a couple numbers to get a total price? |
| 05:41.40 | |Jelly| | Going around his ass to get to his elbows? |
| 05:41.54 | art3mis | it makes its mathy instead of grade1 flash cardish |
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| 05:42.06 | WobWork | 1 and 1 is 2 |
| 05:42.12 | |Jelly| | lies |
| 05:42.12 | WobWork | 2 and 2 is 4... |
| 05:42.16 | WobWork | sorry |
| 05:42.16 | |Jelly| | Don't lie to us! |
| 05:42.19 | |Jelly| | We see through it! |
| 05:42.20 | WobWork | 2+2=5 |
| 05:42.35 | widgertick | O_o |
| 05:42.41 | widgertick | THERE ARE |
| 05:42.45 | widgertick | FOUR LIGHTS |
| 05:43.04 | MentalPower | babylon5 |
| 05:49.26 | Cairenn | Once you look upon the face of a Vorlon you are forever changed |
| 05:51.04 | art3mis | thats not his face look higher you perv |
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| 05:51.30 | Guillotine | rofl |
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| 05:57.16 | art3mis | http://www.whorepresents.com/ |
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| 05:59.31 | Gngsk | wow |
| 05:59.48 | Gngsk | that's almost as good as http://www.penisland.net |
| 06:01.25 | Fisker- | pen island = obvious troll |
| 06:02.06 | Gngsk | you never bought one of their pens? |
| 06:02.56 | Sixen | lawl |
| 06:03.03 | WobWork | Don't be fooled by those imposters at www.penisland.org |
| 06:03.04 | Sixen | I saw a bunch of those. |
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| 06:03.24 | widgertick | We used to send packages to recruits in the Marines Corps from penisland.net |
| 06:03.37 | Sixen | lol |
| 06:03.57 | widgertick | Those and army brochures |
| 06:04.03 | widgertick | Always result in hillarity |
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| 06:04.28 | widgertick | Hello, despicable cog-lover. |
| 06:05.08 | Tem | lawl, sprockets |
| 06:05.14 | Tem | lawl, cogs |
| 06:05.14 | WobWork | like you can talk, you bloodsucker of widgers |
| 06:05.38 | widgertick | Those widgers had it coming. |
| 06:05.46 | WobWork | parasite! |
| 06:05.48 | diesprockets | copy editors need to stick to copy editing... |
| 06:05.57 | diesprockets | "Does and mean either just as or? If not, then how is it certain that d is also false given the and and not an or? M.E." |
| 06:06.00 | widgertick | British gardening implements have gone unpunished TOO LONG! |
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| 06:06.54 | WobWork | cogwheel: wtf? |
| 06:07.31 | cogwheel | (nick change /to/ diesprockets, that is) |
| 06:07.41 | WobWork | no not the nick change |
| 06:07.44 | WobWork | the quote |
| 06:07.50 | art3mis | After the third boss in botanica is a room with a bunch of Blood Elves and some non-elites named Mutate Fleshlasher. These grant 12 reputation with the Shatar when killed. Here's the thing though, another Mutate Fleshlasher spawns every 10 ish seconds! What you need to do to get unlimited reputation is keep the last Blood Elf in the pull (or room, whichever you prefer) CC'd and these little non-elites keep spawning. My friend mage and I ( |
| 06:07.56 | cogwheel | WobWork: oh heh |
| 06:08.01 | art3mis | neat |
| 06:08.28 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: ping |
| 06:08.46 | WobWork | cogwheel: it looks like that sentence lacks some vital punctuation |
| 06:08.48 | cogwheel | WobWork: i was describing shortcut evaluation and she didn't understand the difference between and and or |
| 06:08.57 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: pong |
| 06:09.17 | batrick | do you have to take a data structures and algorithms class? |
| 06:09.26 | WobWork | She was trying to disprove -what- you were writing about? |
| 06:09.35 | WobWork | rather than the grammar/spelling of such? |
| 06:09.50 | Shirik|Ecole | negative |
| 06:09.51 | cogwheel | something like that XD |
| 06:09.53 | Shirik|Ecole | only software engineering did |
| 06:09.57 | WobWork | Crazy |
| 06:10.03 | batrick | ... ahhhh.... |
| 06:10.03 | Shirik|Ecole | though I kinda already knew that stuff |
| 06:10.12 | batrick | it's on par with signals and systems =) |
| 06:10.17 | Shirik|Ecole | is it? |
| 06:10.25 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't think it was that bad when I was helping my friend last semester |
| 06:10.28 | batrick | you don't go into the gory mathematical details :P |
| 06:10.28 | Shirik|Ecole | a bit of a pain I guess |
| 06:12.49 | Shirik|Ecole | !google JRC 3580 |
| 06:12.50 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: 4470-01-384-3580 - Buy Online <http://4470.iso-parts.com/nsn/4470-01-384-3580> |
| 06:13.15 | Fisker- | Can you get a deposit date for a particular item? |
| 06:13.24 | Fisker- | without reading or parsing the log? |
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| 06:16.36 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: btw I got a library up and "running" for it |
| 06:16.48 | batrick | running means up until a segfault =) |
| 06:16.52 | batrick | I'm too tired to locate it |
| 06:17.05 | batrick | and I'm pissed that lua_load and lua_dump are so rediculously complicated |
| 06:22.49 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: holy PTR note changes |
| 06:22.56 | kd3 | ya |
| 06:23.05 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 06:23.05 | ScytheBlade1 | +<li>Chain Lightning: This ability will no longer jump to secondary targets which are under the effect of crowd-control spells that break on taking damage. i.e. Polymorph, Sap, etc. |
| 06:23.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Applied to pretty much everything |
| 06:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Cleave, Multi-Shot, Swipe, Chain Lightning, and Avenger's Shield |
| 06:23.42 | kd3 | and a few items |
| 06:23.49 | art3mis | why is it that a bowl of cereal reagrdless of type tastes so much better inthe middle ot eh night than it does in the morning |
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| 06:28.32 | art3mis | mmm cinamon toast crunch |
| 06:28.38 | batrick | because your nose is stuffed with the shit you breathed from your pillow and you probably didn't brush your teeth :P |
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| 06:32.47 | art3mis | heh my nose is stuffed up from the sniffley cold |
| 06:32.57 | art3mis | i cant find my vicks vapo rub |
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| 06:50.33 | Guillotine | you mean vicks vapow wub? |
| 06:50.40 | art3mis | yes |
| 06:50.52 | art3mis | my fingers arent stuffed up so i can type normally ;P |
| 06:51.56 | art3mis | mmm marshmellowy peeps |
| 06:52.04 | art3mis | if only real chicks went down this easy |
| 06:53.09 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 06:57.11 | art3mis | best comic book guy line ever |
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| 07:02.34 | Duman | wow |
| 07:02.44 | Duman | the ptr client just made my machine assplode |
| 07:05.51 | Shirik|Ecole | 20 feet! |
| 07:05.54 | Shirik|Ecole | It works 20 feet away! |
| 07:05.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I win. |
| 07:06.08 | Cairenn | good |
| 07:06.11 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually it probably works further but I can't test any further away, the wires don't reach >< |
| 07:08.45 | MentalPower | night |
| 07:08.51 | Cairenn | night MentalPower |
| 07:11.15 | MentalPower|ZZzz | y? |
| 07:11.30 | art3mis | its a cuddle toy before bedtime to keep the other monsters away |
| 07:12.06 | MentalPower|ZZzz | err... alright... |
| 07:12.12 | MentalPower|ZZzz | thanks... I guess... :) |
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| 07:14.01 | batrick | VICTORY |
| 07:14.05 | batrick | i'm a beast |
| 07:14.11 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: I got it working |
| 07:14.16 | Guillotine | night all! |
| 07:14.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I got this working too :P |
| 07:14.57 | Cairenn | night Guillotine |
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| 07:36.05 | art3mis | http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/20071207-214523.jpg |
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| 07:41.14 | art3mis | ewww |
| 07:41.23 | art3mis | those cold-eze zinc tablets are horrid |
| 07:41.42 | art3mis | was fine while it disolved and then i coughed and its a whole new gross taste |
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| 07:50.59 | art3mis | http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100528275&N=10000003+90401+500262 |
| 07:51.04 | art3mis | ^^ i love those externals |
| 07:51.44 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 07:52.25 | nevcairiel | rather expensive just for the looks though |
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| 07:52.34 | art3mis | nah |
| 07:52.49 | art3mis | 500gb at 279 is standard for externals |
| 07:53.08 | nevcairiel | the disc in it should be at what .. 80 tops, 200 for the case? |
| 07:53.46 | nevcairiel | tbh i dont know about prices in the US that much, but seems expensive to me =P |
| 07:53.55 | art3mis | thats about normal for externals |
| 07:54.03 | art3mis | maybe 30$ or so too high |
| 07:55.22 | art3mis | it is home depot though ;P |
| 07:56.37 | art3mis | http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100607135&N=10000003+90401+502798 |
| 07:56.42 | art3mis | thats not a bad price |
| 07:56.52 | art3mis | only like 100$ offa standard |
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| 08:03.28 | art3mis | REGANOMICS! |
| 08:11.49 | clad|sleep | yo momma was a reaganite |
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| 08:13.02 | art3mis | nope but she was part of trudeau mania ;P |
| 08:15.07 | art3mis | man i gotta get a psp again |
| 08:15.14 | art3mis | there's a god of war for it |
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| 08:38.36 | Shirik | hm |
| 08:38.46 | Shirik | The top raiding guild on the server sent me in-game mail |
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| 08:39.17 | Shirik | "We're going to be having an available spot for a healing priest soon on our main team and wanted to know if you would join us. <XXX> recommended you, so we figured we'd give you a shot" blah blah |
| 08:39.36 | Shirik | I think I'm too busy :P |
| 08:39.48 | Kalroth | When did they clear BT? |
| 08:40.02 | Shirik | hmm |
| 08:40.10 | Kalroth | and "main team"? wtf |
| 08:40.27 | Kyrin | Okay, this is driving me mad... I cannot get my addon to join this channel and NOT hide it from the chatframe, what should I be looking at to make this happen? |
| 08:41.01 | Shirik | I'm not sure they have yet |
| 08:41.08 | Shirik | (@ Kalroth) |
| 08:41.13 | Shirik | this is a rather new server so yeah |
| 08:41.23 | Kalroth | Shirik: Oh okay, fair enough |
| 08:41.23 | Shirik | They may have, I wouldn't know |
| 08:41.26 | Shirik | I don't follow them too much |
| 08:41.31 | Kalroth | That also explains why they invite you! |
| 08:41.32 | Shirik | I just have some friends in there |
| 08:41.35 | Shirik | die. |
| 08:41.37 | Kalroth | :P |
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| 08:43.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:53.26 | Kalroth | now Shirik hates me :( |
| 08:53.36 | clad|away | we all do |
| 08:53.41 | clad|away | why should he be any different? |
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| 08:56.50 | Kyrin | so, I am using 'JoinChannelByName' and it seems the channel is being hidden from the chatframe by default, and using 'AddChatWindowChannel' does not appear to unhide it... |
| 08:57.47 | Stanzilla | try JoinPermanentChannel |
| 09:01.06 | Kyrin | I assume it's the same syntax as JoinChannelByName? |
| 09:01.10 | Shirik | oh I got friends in low places |
| 09:01.19 | Shirik | !api JoinChannelByName |
| 09:01.19 | WoWLuaircBot | Shirik: type, name = JoinChannelByName("channelName" [,"password" [,frameID]]) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_JoinChannelByName |
| 09:01.35 | Kyrin | !api JoinPermanentChannel |
| 09:01.36 | WoWLuaircBot | Kyrin: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_JoinPermanentChannel |
| 09:01.40 | Kyrin | exactly... |
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| 09:01.50 | clad|away | its there |
| 09:01.54 | clad|away | one moment |
| 09:01.59 | Kyrin | No, it's not |
| 09:02.03 | Kyrin | I'm lookint at the GFL |
| 09:02.09 | Shirik | hm |
| 09:02.10 | clad|away | not on the wiki |
| 09:02.13 | Shirik | interesting |
| 09:02.13 | clad|away | but the wiki is shit |
| 09:02.14 | Kyrin | ah, k |
| 09:02.15 | clad|away | hence my one moment |
| 09:02.21 | Kyrin | fair enough |
| 09:02.38 | clad|away | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0ff66879862d4baa6ad84a04b0abbf96.png |
| 09:02.40 | Kyrin | sadly the wiki is my best resource, aside from the real people here |
| 09:02.45 | clad|away | give me a month |
| 09:02.47 | clad|away | and it won't be |
| 09:03.43 | Gngsk | this news is intriguing |
| 09:03.43 | Kyrin | well, I like the people here, you going to kill them all in a month? |
| 09:03.44 | Kyrin | :) |
| 09:04.54 | clad|away | Gngsk: when the book is released, the comprehensive companion site is released as well |
| 09:04.56 | clad|away | we'll leave it at that |
| 09:05.19 | Shirik | that reminds me clad|away |
| 09:05.24 | Shirik | what's up with images.gammatester.com? |
| 09:05.33 | Shirik | oh it's back, nm |
| 09:06.47 | Shirik | man, this competition this weekend is going to be so awesome |
| 09:06.50 | Shirik | I think it was designed with me in midn |
| 09:06.52 | Shirik | mind* |
| 09:07.01 | Shirik | 7PM Friday to 7PM Saturday, 24 hours straight programming challenge |
| 09:07.03 | clad|away | i had the domain redirecting, i fixed it |
| 09:07.36 | Kyrin | hrm, k, JoinPermanentChannel also hid the channel, i'm trying to specify a chatframe on join now, see if that help, else I'm going to bed |
| 09:07.45 | clad|away | wow |
| 09:08.04 | clad|away | only 95 megs of pictures on gt.com |
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| 09:08.36 | Wobin | gt.com? |
| 09:08.41 | Shirik | mostly mine, haha |
| 09:08.47 | Wobin | oh |
| 09:08.50 | Kalroth | gammatester, Wobin :) |
| 09:10.36 | Kyrin | yeah, nfg |
| 09:13.17 | Kyrin | i'll flog myself more later, must sleep now |
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| 09:13.57 | Shirik | HA! |
| 09:14.07 | Shirik | I just saw the female BE mage avatar on the WoW forums |
| 09:14.13 | Kalroth | boobies? |
| 09:14.22 | Shirik | amusingly I couldn't tell if it was a guy or a girl until I checked the gender thingy |
| 09:14.27 | Kalroth | >< |
| 09:14.44 | nevcairiel | long hair and so? |
| 09:14.45 | Shirik | I actually thought it was a guy, went to another page and was like "wait, did that say female?!" |
| 09:14.51 | Shirik | well the hair was covered by helm |
| 09:15.01 | nevcairiel | did they change the avatar? |
| 09:15.02 | nevcairiel | link! |
| 09:15.08 | NightHawkTheSane | wow. i just healed most of za without my weapon equipped .< |
| 09:15.08 | Shirik | example is first post: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103803837&sid=1 |
| 09:15.09 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 09:15.18 | nevcairiel | you rock NightHawkTheSane |
| 09:15.29 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 09:15.31 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 09:15.38 | Kalroth | that's the same as it always has been, no? |
| 09:15.48 | nevcairiel | the face looks female-ish, if you pay real close attention |
| 09:16.48 | Shirik | yeah but I was only kinda glancing over it |
| 09:16.50 | Shirik | and it's 4AM |
| 09:18.45 | batrick | shirik |
| 09:18.57 | batrick | i got it working but it segfaults if I put it in a loop of saying "hi" |
| 09:19.26 | batrick | e.g. while true do filum.create(function() print"hi" end) end |
| 09:20.10 | batrick | anybody know if pthread_t is a pointer or is it an actual structure? |
| 09:20.39 | clad|away | batrick: no idea, but whatcha working on? |
| 09:20.58 | batrick | it's a threading library for Lua i'm working on with Shirik |
| 09:21.06 | clad|away | cool, what sets it apart from the others? |
| 09:21.11 | batrick | (who currently has been slacking!) |
| 09:21.27 | batrick | you can pass all objects (except threads) between threads |
| 09:21.33 | clad|away | very cool! |
| 09:21.36 | batrick | except Lua threads* |
| 09:21.58 | batrick | thanks :) |
| 09:22.05 | clad|away | now quick, require ulimit.h and include a way to manage cpu/memory limits |
| 09:22.07 | nevcairiel | pthread_t is a pointer, iirc |
| 09:22.10 | clad|away | I'm waiting. |
| 09:22.19 | batrick | lol... |
| 09:22.30 | clad|away | later folks |
| 09:22.33 | clad|away | be back in 15 |
| 09:22.49 | batrick | clad|away: that's actually a cool idea |
| 09:22.49 | Shirik | batrick: After this weekend I can really sit down and take a look at it |
| 09:22.57 | Shirik | been really busy this week :< |
| 09:22.58 | batrick | I could give Lua an allocator function you could set limits on |
| 09:23.08 | Shirik | nevcairiel: But that's not how windows does it! |
| 09:23.21 | batrick | Shirik: how does windows do it? |
| 09:23.21 | nevcairiel | windows doesnt care a flying fuck about pthread :P |
| 09:23.27 | Shirik | Windows uses "handles" |
| 09:23.31 | batrick | are they pointers? |
| 09:23.36 | Shirik | nope |
| 09:23.40 | batrick | fuck life |
| 09:23.43 | Shirik | in fact, two handles can point to the same thing |
| 09:23.45 | Shirik | but be different values |
| 09:23.53 | nevcairiel | if someone asks about pthread, that implies a native pthread implementation, and not some windows shit |
| 09:23.54 | batrick | fuck winblows |
| 09:23.59 | batrick | why are we supporting that again? |
| 09:24.06 | Shirik | Because too many people use windows :P |
| 09:24.16 | batrick | I konw... it's a joke! |
| 09:24.23 | Shirik | Don't worry, I'll take care of the Windows stuff |
| 09:24.25 | clad|away | they can geta posix implementation |
| 09:24.28 | clad|away | fuck them |
| 09:24.29 | Shirik | I have enough experience in that |
| 09:24.35 | clad|away | the allocator is the easy part |
| 09:24.44 | clad|away | the cpu time monitor should be easy tho with your library |
| 09:24.46 | clad|away | i'd hope :P |
| 09:24.55 | batrick | I dunno |
| 09:25.14 | batrick | I'm still in the very early stages of development |
| 09:25.26 | batrick | the fact that I got a running version is pretty nuts |
| 09:26.00 | batrick | Shirik: as penalty for your slacking you get to change all the pthread code everywhere to something mor egeneral =) |
| 09:26.08 | batrick | I don't envy you. |
| 09:26.22 | nevcairiel | just use a pthread wrapper on windows =P |
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| 09:36.25 | batrick | ah damn |
| 09:36.35 | batrick | I can't use pthread_t as an identifier (pointer) |
| 09:39.18 | Shirik | This is like when I was trying to put FILE*s into Java today |
| 09:39.19 | Shirik | what a pain |
| 09:39.41 | batrick | man |
| 09:39.43 | batrick | this could get ugly |
| 09:39.51 | batrick | I think I'm going to have to assign my own identifier |
| 09:41.23 | Shirik | well I need to get some rest |
| 09:41.32 | Shirik | we'll talk next week hopefully -- I have a lot to do this week like I said |
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| 09:48.26 | batrick | k np |
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| 10:03.44 | batrick | nevcairiel: just fyi, pthread_t's type is not defined, it could be implemented as a pointer, structure, etc. |
| 10:05.36 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 10:05.52 | nevcairiel | i just grep'ed the *nix include file |
| 10:06.01 | nevcairiel | typedef unsigned long int pthread_t; |
| 10:06.07 | nevcairiel | whatever works i suppose =P |
| 10:06.18 | batrick | that's just how it's implemented on your box :P |
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| 10:09.23 | nevcairiel | does it really matter what type it is anyway? |
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| 10:23.57 | batrick | nevcairiel: yes if you want to use it as an identifier |
| 10:28.26 | Gngsk | so in 2.3 if I want to do something when I gain/refresh a buff I gotta register PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED and scan through all my buffs? |
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| 10:40.19 | clad|office | okay, whats up |
| 10:44.55 | mikma | we got a new helicopter that transports people from Helsinki to Estonia... |
| 10:44.58 | batrick | Gngsk: if you're just starting work on this, I'd wait till 2.4, as all of that is about to change |
| 10:45.07 | mikma | so, they have this: http://vacc.fi/df/files/ohhcq_23_985.jpg |
| 10:45.17 | mikma | 2 things: Cargo Release, and Fire Bucket! ahahahahaa |
| 10:45.31 | mikma | yeah, dump the customers in the ocean will ya |
| 10:46.17 | clad|office | I'm sorry |
| 10:46.21 | clad|office | GAH |
| 10:46.54 | Gngsk | batrick, yah I know, that's why I started my question qualifying I was talking about 2.3, was just looking for confirmation really |
| 10:46.54 | Kalroth | mikma: Honest mistake! |
| 10:47.47 | mikma | Kalroth: and after dumping, fire a bucket so all the walrus can join them haha |
| 10:55.04 | batrick | Gngsk: sorry I didn't read that fully heh |
| 10:55.15 | batrick | <- is tired from debugging thread segfaults =) |
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| 11:07.22 | Gngsk | batbot, np thanks for the help :P |
| 11:07.27 | Gngsk | er, batrick ^ |
| 11:08.36 | batrick | i didn't help much but yw :P |
| 11:09.02 | batrick | btw, I believe PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED only works for some buffs |
| 11:09.43 | batrick | one of the problems with blizzards old combat system (and probably on of the main reasons it was changed) was the eventer were not intuitive by any stretch of the imagination |
| 11:09.52 | batrick | events* |
| 11:09.56 | batrick | damn my spelling sucks |
| 11:09.57 | batrick | i should sleep |
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| 12:03.01 | Nom- | W_T_F |
| 12:03.11 | Nom- | I just got hijacked off wowinterface.com by one of the banner adds |
| 12:03.20 | |pez| | ew |
| 12:03.32 | Nom- | Telling me to install some antivirus thing which was one of those typical spyware popups |
| 12:04.42 | clad|office | do you have a URL or any other information |
| 12:04.45 | clad|office | so we can look into it? |
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| 14:02.37 | Josh_Borke | ~lart vhaarr |
| 14:02.37 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses vhaarr's head to break the homerun record |
| 14:02.45 | vhaarr | ~whalecrit Josh_Borke |
| 14:02.45 | purl | ACTION crits Josh_Borke with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Josh_Borke dies |
| 14:02.50 | Josh_Borke | ~whaleparry |
| 14:02.56 | Josh_Borke | ~whaleparry vhaarr |
| 14:02.57 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry vhaarr's attacks. |
| 14:02.58 | Josh_Borke | blast |
| 14:03.10 | vhaarr | Any admins/moderators around? I need to transfer ownership of one addon and change the categories of 2 addons that have been moved to "Outdated". |
| 14:03.46 | Josh_Borke | your best course of action is to PM cairenn with links to the addons in question and what category you want them in |
| 14:03.58 | Josh_Borke | as far as the transfer ownership, are you obtaining or releasing? |
| 14:03.58 | vhaarr | alright, will do |
| 14:04.03 | vhaarr | obtaining |
| 14:04.18 | Josh_Borke | i would say same deal then |
| 14:04.23 | vhaarr | alrighty |
| 14:04.24 | Josh_Borke | just explain why you are obtaining |
| 14:08.20 | vhaarr | done, thank you |
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| 14:09.46 | |pez| | now the question is. did this person register, before he sent any PMs. |
| 14:10.06 | Josh_Borke | yes |
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| 15:10.39 | Kaso | wow the denizens of ##java are knobs |
| 15:15.49 | Maldivia | how so |
| 15:16.31 | Kaso | banned me for repeating a question 20min after i first asked it. |
| 15:16.39 | Maldivia | nice |
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| 16:04.34 | zenzelezz | no u |
| 16:05.10 | cog|work | just got full approval for the home loan which is as good as cash in my pocket when we find a house =D |
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| 16:47.33 | art3mis | Seerah: some days we're lucky if fin can form a coherent sentence with english words ;P |
| 16:47.42 | Seerah | lol |
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| 16:48.25 | Seerah | I think that's just cause he's slightly crazy ;) |
| 16:48.40 | art3mis | i was gonna say belgian |
| 16:48.51 | art3mis | same diff i suppose ;) |
| 16:50.04 | Seerah | hubby had me helping him fix his BigWigs install last night |
| 16:50.30 | zenzelezz | he's slightly Belgian? |
| 16:50.36 | Seerah | turned out that the Plugins and Extras modules had somehow gotten disabled in the Addons menu which left those menus empty, Funky |
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| 17:08.28 | Kaso | Quote about IE8 beta (yah i know its beta so you can judge yet, but quote is funny). |
| 17:08.33 | Kaso | I didn't think there was a way for Microsoft to make their browser even worse, but they fucking did it. This piece of shit doesn't even render the W3 validator page right. That's right. IE8 fails to properly render code written by the body that defines web standards, on a page used by web designers across the world to validate their code for standards compliance. Way to go, Microsoft. |
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| 17:08.58 | Adys | lol kaso |
| 17:09.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not looking forward to having my web coding life frelled up by IE8. |
| 17:09.29 | |pez| | and, it randomly breaks computers ^^' |
| 17:09.44 | cogumel0 | how do I get my addon accepting slash commands? |
| 17:09.44 | zenzelezz | I'll hold my judgement until it's out of beta |
| 17:09.46 | |pez| | I love the word frell. |
| 17:09.50 | Adys | same zenzelezz |
| 17:09.57 | Kaso | cogumel0, http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command |
| 17:10.43 | Kaso | Its a brave move of microsoft to have "standards(cough)" mode as default, it'll break alot but hopefully we'll finally be able to move the internet past this quirks mode crap |
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| 17:11.32 | Lopeppeppy | I just don't want to have to program around yet another version of IE compatibility. *sigh* |
| 17:12.03 | cogumel0 | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME, is that the chat frame currently on top? |
| 17:12.07 | |pez| | there needs to be more whoring of decent browsers. |
| 17:12.21 | cogumel0 | like... if I have combat frame up, will it be DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME ? |
| 17:12.23 | Kaso | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME is ChatFrame1, the first chat frame ever made |
| 17:12.40 | cogumel0 | why use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME instead of ChatFrame1 then? -.- |
| 17:12.48 | nevcairiel | it might change |
| 17:12.48 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:12.56 | cogumel0 | right, other addons might change that |
| 17:12.58 | cogumel0 | gotcha |
| 17:13.09 | Kaso | well IE8 is going to be alot closer to web standards than anything else has been, thats commendale |
| 17:13.28 | nevcairiel | Kaso: anything else would've been really sad after all that big talks |
| 17:13.40 | Kaso | mm |
| 17:13.54 | Kaso | though the XHTML thing they said a while back is pretty sad :< |
| 17:14.05 | |pez| | what'd they say? |
| 17:14.22 | Kaso | basically, dont expect proper xhtml support |
| 17:14.25 | Kaso | lemme find a quote |
| 17:14.31 | |pez| | that's... lame. |
| 17:14.32 | nevcairiel | what should i use then? |
| 17:14.36 | nevcairiel | XHTML is all i use |
| 17:14.38 | |pez| | html5? :P |
| 17:14.44 | cogumel0 | what's the difference between having something being done on the onload function and just having them running in the "root" of the lua? |
| 17:15.02 | nevcairiel | wasnt there XHTML 2.0? |
| 17:15.07 | Lopeppeppy | It doesn't matter if it's better, worse, indifferent.... I will still have to program web pages that are compatible with yet one more version of web browser. |
| 17:15.09 | cogumel0 | I mean, in theory don't they get executed at the same time without having to setup a script? |
| 17:15.30 | Lukian | nevcairiel, yeah but it's done finalised yet :( |
| 17:15.30 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: our lives are hard. ;__; |
| 17:15.31 | Kaso | basically Onload will happen after your frame is created, whereas raw lua file could be executed earlier depending on how you lay it out |
| 17:15.48 | Lukian | nevcairiel, I think most of them perceive html5 as a better option |
| 17:15.52 | Lopeppeppy | It's not... hard, just thrice-damned annoying and stupid. |
| 17:15.59 | cogumel0 | after the frame is created? doesn't that imply that you are using xml? |
| 17:16.04 | |pez| | Lopeppeppy: right. |
| 17:16.18 | |pez| | atleast my horribly boring site looks 99% the same in all the current browsers |
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| 17:16.36 | zenzelezz | which site is that? |
| 17:16.41 | cogumel0 | in my case for example I'm not using xml, I'm creating my frame in lua and only using onupdate (ofc I check if the frame has already been created so that I don't keep creating frames everytime it goes to the onupdate) |
| 17:17.13 | cogumel0 | and amazingly enough, this was a rewrite of an addon that already existed... and I managed to reduce the memory by 60% |
| 17:17.25 | cogumel0 | hence my question :P |
| 17:17.40 | Kaso | if you're using CreateFrame there is no OnLoad |
| 17:17.43 | |pez| | zenzelezz: the one that needs more color, and color coordination - http://pez.selfip.net:8090/dev/webholmen/ XD |
| 17:17.51 | Kaso | Basically onload is the same as code executed on the next line of CreateFrame |
| 17:18.01 | cogumel0 | ahh! |
| 17:18.29 | Kaso | with createframe by the time you can set the onload, its already executed, so too late :> |
| 17:18.36 | cogumel0 | so it's the onload of the frame, not of the addon |
| 17:18.47 | zenzelezz | |pez|: also needs content ;) |
| 17:18.54 | |pez| | the only thing that breaks on above mentioned webbie, is the menulinks. |
| 17:18.58 | |pez| | and the | between them |
| 17:19.08 | |pez| | zenzelezz: yesyes, details ;P |
| 17:19.32 | cogumel0 | so... just to make sure my line of thinking is correct... |
| 17:19.41 | Kaso | RE:XHTML : t also sounds as if IE support for XHTML is not going to be an IE 8.0 thing. "We don't want to do a half-formed job" of XHTML support, Wilson said. He did note that Microsoft is testing a parser and experimenting with integrating multiple schema, however. |
| 17:19.59 | nevcairiel | whats so hard about XHTML support? |
| 17:20.08 | nevcairiel | a XML Parser is easier then a SGML parser *shrug |
| 17:20.15 | Lukian | haha |
| 17:20.17 | Lukian | so true |
| 17:20.39 | cogumel0 | in an addon that only does something once the WorldMapFrame is open, it would be pretty much a waste to check the even PlayerLogin and have the frames created on PlayerLogin instead of onupdate of the WorldMapFrame, that is only executed the first time WorldMapFrame is visible |
| 17:20.48 | nevcairiel | there is even XHTML 5 .. |
| 17:20.53 | nevcairiel | MS was just lazy again |
| 17:20.58 | zenzelezz | 5? We're not even at XHTML 2 |
| 17:21.03 | zenzelezz | HTML 5, XHTML 2 |
| 17:21.06 | nevcairiel | its an alternative |
| 17:21.16 | nevcairiel | HTML 5 -> XHTML 5 |
| 17:21.17 | cogumel0 | because else the frames would be created at playerlogin and there's the chance the player won't even open the map during that play session and the frames are already created, wasting more memory |
| 17:21.28 | cogumel0 | is that correct? |
| 17:21.28 | nevcairiel | they skipped the versioning scheme |
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| 17:22.25 | |pez| | Ok, so I liked the look of Drupal, but it was sort of quirky moving around. |
| 17:22.39 | Kaso | Umm, basically the way it works is this cogumel0, wow loads the entire default UI, so UIParent and all child frames, after that is complete it then loads each addon in alphabetical order(usually) loading the addon's code, then SV's then firing that addons ADDON_LOADED. Finally the loading bar screen is hidden and then PEW is fired |
| 17:22.44 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: when did this happen? I've not heard a word about XHTML 5 yet |
| 17:23.17 | cogumel0 | SV? PEW? |
| 17:23.31 | Kaso | Saved variables |
| 17:23.35 | Kaso | and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 17:23.42 | cogumel0 | right |
| 17:23.45 | cogumel0 | but what I mean is... |
| 17:24.07 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: i would link you wikipedia .. but the english article is quite incomplete .. and german might not be your thing..^^ |
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| 17:24.50 | cogumel0 | if you are creating an unnecessary frame at PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD that might not be used for the entire duration of the "playing experience" of the player... that will occupy more memory than having it created only when WorldMapFrame is visible for the first time, right? |
| 17:25.16 | Kaso | ah i see |
| 17:25.24 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: http://xhtml.com/en/future/x-html-5-versus-xhtml-2/ |
| 17:25.26 | Kaso | yes hidden frames will use up memory |
| 17:25.35 | cogumel0 | creating it on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD vs creating it the first time it's actually needed and "seen" |
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| 17:26.22 | Kaso | its better to create on demand, except that if it is a large, complicated frame it might lag the UI for a second as you create it, which is why it is sometimes better to create on login, but usually not needed |
| 17:26.36 | cogumel0 | would it help to reduce the memory if you destroy the frame everytime the WorldMapFrame is closed and have it created everytime it's open again? |
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| 17:27.31 | Kaso | You cant destroy frames |
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| 17:27.45 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: so it's not a W3 thing? The site confuses me |
| 17:27.53 | cogumel0 | hehe, now that I think of it, even if you could, it wouldn't really help |
| 17:27.53 | Kaso | they will never be Garbage collected even if there are no references to them |
| 17:28.30 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: its a W3C Workgroup |
| 17:29.28 | nevcairiel | http://www.w3.org/html/wg/ |
| 17:29.42 | cogumel0 | since there's no way of knowing when WorldMapFrame is opened and closed, you would have to use OnUpdate and - if possible - destroy the frame in the end of the OnUpdate function only to have it recreated at the beggining of the OnUpdate again. Since OnUpdate runs way too many times per second provided the frame is visible, it would actually be even worse :P |
| 17:29.56 | zenzelezz | you could hook WorldMapFrame's OnShow |
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| 17:30.35 | cogumel0 | you can't destroy frames anyway, so it ends up being the same, and I need the onupdate to check the player's coordinates anyway. |
| 17:31.08 | cogumel0 | I can have it running only once every 20 OnUpdates though, that should help minimize the memory consumption |
| 17:31.13 | Kaso | You want to have as little as possible application logic in OnUpdate |
| 17:31.23 | zenzelezz | yeah, but that doesn't mean it's impossible as you implied to see when the WorldMapFrame is opened or closed :) |
| 17:31.39 | cogumel0 | Point taken zenzelezz |
| 17:32.23 | cogumel0 | I'm assuming there's no way the player can actually change 0.01 coordinates in less than 20 OnUpdates, not even on a Mount? |
| 17:32.48 | Kaso | Events > hooks > OnUpdates |
| 17:32.58 | Kaso | cogumel0, try it and see. |
| 17:33.34 | cogumel0 | Kaso, I was told that, but funny thing is... the addon that I've slightly changed seems to be working with less memory with "everything" on OnUpdate. |
| 17:33.55 | Kaso | perhaps less memory, but id imagen tonnes more CPU |
| 17:34.08 | Kaso | and CPU kills fps many orders of magnitude more than memory |
| 17:34.41 | cogumel0 | well I've only added 1 line that's being executed on every single OnUpdate |
| 17:34.48 | pneumonochrome | So, I've noticed that more and more addons are becoming big, multi-addon groups of addons. I'm wondering how much interest would be out there in the community in trying to get Blizzard to implement the following change in the addons system: Allow addon authors to specify that an addon is part of a specific group, "ThisGuysAddons," for example. Then, when the SV files are saved by Blizz, rather than save them |
| 17:35.17 | cogumel0 | it's an if to check if the frame has already been created. |
| 17:35.33 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/cpu.jpg -- CPU time and effect on FPS |
| 17:35.40 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/memory.jpg -- Memory useage and effect on FPS |
| 17:35.57 | cogumel0 | that way... if it's the first time running the onupdate, it enters the if, creates the frame and changes the variable to true to say the frame has been created |
| 17:36.22 | cogumel0 | next time it goes there it only does the check on the if, realizes the condition returns false and continues to simply updating the coordinates |
| 17:36.36 | Kaso | I'd be better to just securehook the onshow of the frame i think. |
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| 17:50.35 | cogumel0 | how do I securehook the onshow of a frame? |
| 17:50.39 | cogumel0 | gonna give it a try |
| 17:51.02 | nevcairiel | frame:HookScript("OnShow", function() end) |
| 17:53.09 | cogumel0 | thx |
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| 18:13.12 | art3mis | http://www.grackle.net/cat/vomit.html |
| 18:13.32 | Shirik | "I realize students are inundated with survey's, but this one is directed just to you, the workers. Did you know that over 30% of ERAU students work on campus at one time or another over a years time. The great stats gathered from that information is that student workers maintain higher grades than non workers and 90% of you stay in college! Thank you all for your contribution to ERAU! We absolutely cannot function without you!" |
| 18:13.50 | Shirik | They forget to tell you that the reason 90% of us stay in college is because we're overworked and have to take summer classes or extra years |
| 18:14.32 | art3mis | only becazuse you havent become a good little methhead ;P\ |
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| 18:39.47 | Shirik|Ecole | soo |
| 18:39.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I just found out "ls -l" works in command prompt |
| 18:39.58 | Shirik|Ecole | that's interesting |
| 18:40.07 | ralfWORK | uhm... why wouldn't it work? |
| 18:40.11 | art3mis | in xp? |
| 18:40.14 | Shirik|Ecole | yes in xp |
| 18:40.18 | ralfWORK | ohhh ok |
| 18:40.27 | art3mis | you installed an sdk or the unix tools/wintools pack |
| 18:40.31 | zenzelezz | not on my XP |
| 18:40.38 | Kaso | yah that isnt default |
| 18:40.40 | ralfWORK | or cygwin ;) |
| 18:40.43 | art3mis | ms bought wintools and is giving out all thier apps |
| 18:40.56 | Kaso | i know cos every time i try to dir i accidently ls |
| 18:41.13 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 18:41.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Yeah I did it by accident really |
| 18:41.21 | Shirik|Ecole | but it just worked >< |
| 18:41.37 | |pez| | Oh, crap, my eyes randomly faded out for a second there. |
| 18:41.52 | zenzelezz | day dreaming? |
| 18:41.54 | |pez| | losr focus. |
| 18:41.57 | |pez| | lost* |
| 18:42.05 | |pez| | no, stuff just sort of blurred. |
| 18:42.11 | Shirik|Ecole | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2f7d937da52a1199080f83c82f4d5b9f.jpg |
| 18:42.50 | zenzelezz | could be anything; but it's not a standard thing |
| 18:43.26 | Shirik|Ecole | it's awesome |
| 18:43.32 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't have to worry about typing the wrong thing anymore |
| 18:48.03 | wereHamster | What's the maximum file name in windows? I don't think the .doc file has reached the limit :) |
| 18:48.15 | wereHamster | file name lenght |
| 18:48.43 | Shirik|Ecole | good question |
| 18:48.45 | zenzelezz | 255 |
| 18:48.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I read it on MSDN once |
| 18:48.48 | zenzelezz | includig the path |
| 18:48.53 | Shirik|Ecole | that sounds right |
| 18:49.10 | zenzelezz | so don't bury it in a deep folder structure if it has a long name |
| 18:49.25 | wereHamster | 255 including the path? you sure? |
| 18:49.34 | zenzelezz | not positive, but I do believe so |
| 18:50.37 | Cide- | that sounds unreasonable |
| 18:51.20 | Cide- | well, maybe not |
| 18:51.32 | Cide- | 255 is pretty long |
| 18:52.01 | art3mis | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247.aspx |
| 18:52.16 | zenzelezz | "In the Windows API, the maximum length for a path is MAX_PATH, which is defined as 260 characters. A path is structured in the following order: drive letter, colon, backslash, components separated by backslashes, and a null-terminating character, for example, the maximum path on the D drive is "D:\<256 chars>NUL"." |
| 18:52.50 | art3mis | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_filename |
| 18:53.07 | ralfWORK | that's... odd |
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| 18:56.03 | wereHamster | linux/limits.h:#define PATH_MAX 4096 /* # chars in a path name including nul */ |
| 18:56.45 | wereHamster | but _POSIX_PATH_MAX is 256 ... |
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| 19:03.12 | Shirik|Ecole | yay for JNI |
| 19:03.18 | Shirik|Ecole | FILE* fd = reinterpret_cast<FILE*>(env->GetLongField(self, env->GetFieldID(env->GetObjectClass(self), "popenFileDescriptor", "J"))) |
| 19:03.25 | Shirik|Ecole | thank god the signature was easy... (only "J") |
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| 19:05.19 | Cide- | nice |
| 19:05.24 | Cide- | that's a lot of nested calls |
| 19:05.32 | Cide- | to the same object |
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| 19:22.54 | Lunessa | ... station. |
| 19:23.00 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 19:23.00 | ralfWORK | station! |
| 19:26.00 | Lopeppeppy | Indeed. |
| 19:30.56 | Nechckn | Shirik any Robo pic updates? |
| 19:33.10 | zenzelezz | sometimes it annoys me how people arrange their action bars... like when they die to Air Burst because they're clicking the Naj'entus spine instead of the Tear which apparently are side-by-side |
| 19:34.31 | ScytheBlade1 | They're changing hourly |
| 19:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Flipping betwe-- haha |
| 19:34.40 | ralfWORK | oh? |
| 19:34.55 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the servers in their rotation isn't synched. hahaha. |
| 19:34.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That makes sense. |
| 19:35.05 | ralfWORK | ah gotcha |
| 19:35.09 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: compare |
| 19:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/patchnotes/03-06-2008-11.diff |
| 19:35.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/patchnotes/03-06-2008-12.diff |
| 19:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/PTR/patchnotes/03-06-2008-09.diff |
| 19:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That's out of order, whoops |
| 19:35.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Last link, first, second link |
| 19:35.30 | Rayne | ScytheBlade1: Im just happy they reverted life tap. |
| 19:35.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Rayne: I'm not. NERF LOCKS IMO. |
| 19:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 19:35.51 | ralfWORK | hhaha weird |
| 19:35.55 | ralfWORK | yea and nerf locks |
| 19:35.56 | ScytheBlade1 | (Quick, guess my main class!) |
| 19:36.14 | Rayne | ScytheBlade1: The way they did it though was a little much. 25% life for 25% mana is just way too much. |
| 19:36.24 | Rayne | 18 - 25 Would have been understandable. |
| 19:36.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Precious locks and their precious HP |
| 19:36.56 | Rayne | You lose 25% of your life to cast 3 spells and see how you like it. :/ |
| 19:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh, in PvE all that heals do is overheal. In PvP, well, that was the point of the nerf. |
| 19:37.45 | ScytheBlade1 | s/heals/healers/ |
| 19:38.16 | Rayne | ScytheBlade1: Tell me about it. |
| 19:38.33 | Rayne | My 'main healer' does 50% overheal in TK / SSC, and wonders why hes oom all the time. |
| 19:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:38.50 | ScytheBlade1 | A single healer on a single lock has no excuse for 50% overheal |
| 19:38.56 | Cide | the lifetap nerf was fine |
| 19:38.59 | Cide | locks cried too much |
| 19:39.14 | Rayne | He also seems to think warrior tank = pali tank, so his pali tank has maybe 100 spell damage on it. |
| 19:39.22 | Rayne | Basicly, hes retarded. |
| 19:39.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Agreed @ Cide - it wouldn't change PvE except to lower overheal |
| 19:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:39.29 | ralfWORK | Rayne: our pally tank is the same way |
| 19:39.31 | Cide | nah, it would change pve |
| 19:39.39 | Rayne | It would change pve alot |
| 19:39.40 | ralfWORK | running around with an unenchanted King's Defender |
| 19:39.41 | Cide | but not massively |
| 19:39.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Right |
| 19:39.44 | Cide | Rayne: not really |
| 19:39.51 | Rayne | ralfWORK: Ours has mongoose on his |
| 19:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Right @ Cide that is |
| 19:40.02 | ralfWORK | Rayne: ohhh even better |
| 19:40.13 | zenzelezz | paladin tank with Mongoose? |
| 19:40.15 | Rayne | All he does is brag that he has as much HP as my t5 Warrior. |
| 19:40.25 | Rayne | And his TPS is about 400~ under mine. |
| 19:40.31 | Rayne | So I just laugh at his failure. |
| 19:40.32 | ralfWORK | ouch |
| 19:40.37 | ralfWORK | gee, wonder why |
| 19:41.05 | Rayne | If I cant taunt and throw one shield slam and keep aggro from him by barely trying afterwords, hes doing something wrong. |
| 19:41.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha. My RSS feed of the patch note changes is now 2.5MB. |
| 19:41.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I should fix that.. |
| 19:41.30 | Rayne | er, |
| 19:41.32 | Rayne | I can** |
| 19:41.45 | Rayne | But yeah, bad healer, bad tank. |
| 19:42.07 | ralfWORK | bad player |
| 19:42.15 | Rayne | Yup. |
| 19:42.45 | Rayne | Oh, and his 70 shaman is enhancement, and he uses a shield all the time, wont dual wield. |
| 19:42.50 | Rayne | Forgot that |
| 19:43.03 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 19:43.06 | ralfWORK | seriously? |
| 19:43.28 | ralfWORK | just... wow |
| 19:43.29 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 19:43.33 | Rayne | I know. |
| 19:43.46 | Lunessa | meh. Depends on how you spec - if you don't spec dual wield then using a shield or 2H makes a little sense. Not as good mind you. |
| 19:43.48 | Rayne | Im disgraced to know that hes a higher rank in the guild im in and hes so retarded. |
| 19:44.09 | ralfWORK | no, he said "uses a shield" |
| 19:44.22 | ralfWORK | not 2h vs dual wield |
| 19:44.38 | ralfWORK | speaking of, Fury dropped last night ;) |
| 19:44.55 | Lunessa | I know. And I said... "en using a shield or 2H makes a little sense." |
| 19:45.08 | Lunessa | emphasis on /little/. |
| 19:45.25 | ralfWORK | yea... maybe... |
| 19:45.27 | ralfWORK | like zero! |
| 19:45.31 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 19:45.36 | ralfWORK | that's just amazing |
| 19:45.39 | break19 | my 70 war is basically, full prot.. and when he solo's he uses a shield. |
| 19:45.56 | Rayne | I do too, its higher DPS. |
| 19:46.01 | Rayne | And most warriors dont realize this... |
| 19:46.14 | break19 | indeed it is.. its also more survivability |
| 19:46.25 | Rayne | break19: Agreed. |
| 19:46.26 | ralfWORK | I had a prot warrior rank top DPS on aran once |
| 19:46.32 | ralfWORK | I almost quit the game after that |
| 19:46.38 | Rayne | ralfWORK: I would have left the guild. |
| 19:46.41 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 19:47.16 | ralfWORK | I think he had a few T5 pieces |
| 19:47.17 | Rayne | break19: But yeah, I dont understand these warrior that throw on their pickup DPS gear, lose about 4K life and say theyre doing more DPS without talents in any sort of 2H combat. |
| 19:47.18 | ralfWORK | but still |
| 19:47.54 | Rayne | MAYBE if you could use Devestate with a 2H I could see it. |
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| 19:49.03 | break19 | Rayne: yea.. |
| 19:49.11 | mikma | so, will the epicmounts get reduction in the price? |
| 19:49.16 | Rayne | ralfWORK: Can you view armory at your work? |
| 19:49.21 | ralfWORK | Rayne: ya |
| 19:49.33 | Rayne | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil'jaeden&n=Axyorix Theres his 'pali tank' |
| 19:49.36 | Rayne | 106 Spell damage. |
| 19:50.36 | Lunessa | So is this just "rag on my guildee, 'cause I think he sucks" day? |
| 19:50.53 | break19 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.03 | Rayne | Lunessa: He does suck though, and I rag on him in vent, guild chat and officers chat. |
| 19:51.07 | ralfWORK | Rayne: our prot pally: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Elune&n=Cozmozii |
| 19:51.19 | Rayne | Because he doesnt get the point that PROT PALIS NEED SPELL DAMAGE TO BE EFFECTIVE |
| 19:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: dunno. Want to add some guildies of yours to the mix? |
| 19:51.42 | Lunessa | *shrug* So, we're interested why? |
| 19:52.13 | Rayne | Because the conversation started with his druid with 50% overhealing in SSC / TK, and it lead to tanks, and his tank came up. *shrug* |
| 19:52.56 | Rayne | What the heck. O_o Think my wife was on my warr when I went to bed last night, im in half my pvp gear... |
| 19:53.13 | ralfWORK | rofl |
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| 19:55.04 | Rayne | Anyone want a kitten? |
| 19:55.27 | ralfWORK | was your kitten playing WoW? |
| 19:55.34 | zenzelezz | I have an 11-year-old who thinks she's a kitten still |
| 19:55.37 | Rayne | Nah, theyre only like a week old |
| 19:56.34 | Rayne | break19: Are you keyed for Heroics with Lower City yet? |
| 19:56.52 | break19 | Rayne: i dunno, honestly. heh |
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| 19:56.58 | Rayne | :P |
| 19:57.05 | Rayne | Well, if you are... |
| 19:57.57 | break19 | he's a pretty 'fresh' 70.. |
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| 19:58.03 | Rayne | Get yourself a good group from your guild and farm first boss of crypts on heroic, and get these |
| 19:58.04 | Rayne | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27847 |
| 19:58.17 | Rayne | Dump 2 12 stam gems into them and youre good til t4. |
| 19:58.37 | break19 | very nice. |
| 19:59.35 | Rayne | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27520 is potentially better then your felsteel helm as well |
| 19:59.53 | Rayne | DAMN YOU ARMORY UPDATE MY GEAR |
| 20:00.39 | break19 | he hasnt even done Sh yet.. |
| 20:01.41 | break19 | what sucks is, its difficult for me to run instances right now.. and until my youngin gets a little older, it'll remain that way. |
| 20:02.47 | Saint-N | you just need a kid leash |
| 20:02.50 | Saint-N | and a tree |
| 20:03.06 | Saint-N | that and something shiny just out of reach will free up hours of raiding time |
| 20:03.23 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:03.24 | break19 | Saint-N: she's 6 months old.. she wants food. constantly. |
| 20:03.26 | break19 | heh |
| 20:03.56 | Saint-N | they have these baby sized hamster feeders..... |
| 20:04.11 | Saint-N | <-- doesn't have kids and never wants them |
| 20:04.22 | Saint-N | thankfully wifey despises the little parasites too |
| 20:04.45 | Lunessa | ... |
| 20:04.59 | Lunessa | Breeding, it's not just for idiots anymore. |
| 20:05.02 | Saint-N | although if she had wanted kids I don't think I would have married her due to my rather complete and utter despisal of them |
| 20:05.16 | Saint-N | I have no qualms about renting them |
| 20:05.23 | Saint-N | from ages 5-11 |
| 20:05.38 | Saint-N | at 5 they can walk talk and poop on thier own and at 11 they start hating thier parents |
| 20:05.48 | break19 | http://i27.tinypic.com/1zchjc8.jpg |
| 20:05.52 | Saint-N | all other ages and I'd be perfectly happy that I never saw them |
| 20:06.10 | Lunessa | until the female ones are 18? |
| 20:06.41 | Saint-N | at least 5 years younger than me |
| 20:06.49 | Saint-N | that's about the age of my sister |
| 20:06.57 | Saint-N | and I find most of her friends inspiid |
| 20:07.00 | Saint-N | inspiid |
| 20:07.06 | Saint-N | man I can't type that word |
| 20:07.14 | Rayne | Stupid Armory -_- |
| 20:07.18 | kd3 | insipid |
| 20:07.31 | Lunessa | Just checking to see if you we're still among the living, or if we needed to know that "N" stood for Nosferatu. |
| 20:07.31 | Saint-N | thanks its my gayboard and my fingers conspiring against me |
| 20:07.42 | Saint-N | luney: say the nick out lound |
| 20:07.45 | Saint-N | loud |
| 20:07.55 | Saint-N | it'll make complete sense ;) |
| 20:08.02 | Lunessa | I have. I was just making a jack-ass joke. |
| 20:08.05 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:08.18 | Saint-N | its short for saint nicholas or santa as well |
| 20:08.33 | Saint-N | and since satan == santa its all good |
| 20:08.46 | ralfWORK | I want to go to mars, k |
| 20:09.00 | Lunessa | "Get your ass to Mars." |
| 20:09.03 | Saint-N | a synonym for elves is goblins, thus santa employs goblins in his quest to subvert the christian belief of jesus being born on xmas |
| 20:09.33 | Saint-N | GET TO THE CHOPA! |
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| 20:20.01 | Rayne | So wait...next patch Nethers are BoE, and Vortexes are buyable through badges, right? |
| 20:20.18 | ralfWORK | correct |
| 20:20.22 | ralfWORK | that's what I understand |
| 20:20.38 | Rayne | Might just save 75 badges to upgrade my sword then.. |
| 20:20.46 | ralfWORK | yea, not a bad idea |
| 20:20.52 | Rayne | Instead of spending 50DKP on 5 vortexes. :/ |
| 20:22.40 | foxlit | http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=156302 |
| 20:23.28 | Rayne | "Were sorry but this video is not available." ;_; |
| 20:23.32 | Lunessa | I'm actually happy that I'll be able to pick up a vortex for badges. |
| 20:25.19 | Rayne | I think they were like 15 badges |
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| 20:42.15 | Lunessa | Getting badges in a smaller guild = doable. Getting Vorticies not as easy. |
| 20:42.28 | ralfWORK | totally |
| 20:42.32 | ralfWORK | we get 22 a week |
| 20:42.39 | ralfWORK | at least we did, until I cancelled kara |
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| 21:00.59 | Shirik | btw, batrick, for your learning :) |
| 21:01.13 | Shirik | "AC Coupling" as I was referring to last night resolves this problem: |
| 21:02.01 | Shirik | I have an infrared receiver (phototransistor, specifically) which creates a current whenever it detects a signal. That results in a voltage at its anode. The signal is 4KHz or 2.5KHz depending on what I'm receiving. |
| 21:02.29 | Shirik | Problem is the ambient light in the room changes what that voltage might be (the DC offset). AC Coupling will get rid of that DC component of the signal and only allow the fluctuatiing signal through |
| 21:02.40 | Shirik | (a high pass filter) |
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| 21:06.38 | ralfWORK | k |
| 21:09.06 | ralfWORK | which bot? |
| 21:09.34 | Nechckn | Shirik's bot |
| 21:09.39 | ralfWORK | URL? |
| 21:09.48 | Shirik | Nechckn: How about saturdays >< |
| 21:09.55 | Nechckn | Ugh... fine, fine |
| 21:09.57 | Shirik | I don't have any good pictures right now |
| 21:10.03 | Shirik | and we won't meet again until late Saturday |
| 21:10.18 | Nechckn | ehhehe that's cool- just want to see progress is all |
| 21:10.29 | Nechckn | I live vicariously through others, after all |
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| 21:10.54 | Shirik | it looks beautiful right now though |
| 21:10.57 | Shirik | no wires thrown everywhere |
| 21:11.01 | Shirik | all the cables are tied neatly |
| 21:11.09 | ralfWORK | Shirik: URL? |
| 21:11.14 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:11.15 | Nechckn | well, with those clear sides... you have to |
| 21:11.33 | ralfWORK | you put the pictures up on some site I assume? |
| 21:11.34 | Shirik | ralfWORK: ? |
| 21:11.36 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:11.44 | Shirik | I guess I can show you the old ones |
| 21:11.58 | ralfWORK | sure. curiosity + boredom = ralfWORK |
| 21:12.05 | Nechckn | ehhehehe |
| 21:13.05 | Valaron|Work | Dangerous combination. |
| 21:13.24 | ralfWORK | yea. it is. |
| 21:13.32 | ralfWORK | I found out some neat things today though |
| 21:13.37 | Nechckn | I still think that is an awesome thing to work on... I'd actually join a robotics club if that weren't ever so dorky. |
| 21:14.07 | Nechckn | as a project for school or work- then it's okay. =) |
| 21:15.18 | Shirik | hell no |
| 21:15.22 | Shirik | people don't think battle bots is dorky |
| 21:15.34 | Shirik | have you seen some of those guys? It looks like they're power lifters or something |
| 21:15.35 | Nechckn | hmmm.. that's true |
| 21:15.44 | Shirik | My school used to have a battle bots team |
| 21:15.46 | ralfWORK | I still don't see a URL! |
| 21:15.48 | ralfWORK | ;) |
| 21:15.49 | Shirik | I don't know what happened to that |
| 21:15.52 | Shirik | ralfWORK: I'm looking for it! |
| 21:15.55 | Nechckn | I wonder if there is such a team or whatever in the Washington, DC area |
| 21:15.56 | Shirik | Surely Nechckn still has it |
| 21:15.58 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 21:16.04 | Shirik | Nechckn: I'm from that area o.o |
| 21:16.05 | ralfWORK | COME ON HELP ME OUT HERE PEOPLE |
| 21:16.07 | Shirik | I just don't go to school there |
| 21:16.10 | kd3 | oh good grief... they're planning a worldwide stress test of an already-strained server on sunday |
| 21:16.19 | ralfWORK | kd3: woot! |
| 21:16.21 | Nechckn | what would the url look like Shirik? |
| 21:16.28 | Nechckn | then I can check history |
| 21:16.30 | Shirik | probably imageshack |
| 21:16.34 | Nechckn | kk... brb |
| 21:16.36 | Shirik | or images.gammatester |
| 21:16.38 | Shirik | but I think imageshack |
| 21:17.07 | ralfWORK | does it have tits? |
| 21:17.29 | Nechckn | http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7243/bot3hf9.jpg |
| 21:17.30 | Shirik | no... |
| 21:17.34 | ralfWORK | oh. k. |
| 21:17.41 | Shirik | aw that's a crappy picture |
| 21:17.45 | Shirik | that's in its "fault" state |
| 21:17.48 | Nechckn | http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7200/2477453278332855960tu9.jpg |
| 21:17.51 | Shirik | when it detects a problem it latches power off until you reset |
| 21:18.02 | Shirik | find the one with blue leds :( |
| 21:18.21 | Esamynn|Work | kd3: what server is this? |
| 21:18.27 | Nechckn | http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/416/bot2zi5.jpg |
| 21:18.28 | kd3 | the tournament test realm |
| 21:18.32 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 21:18.37 | Shirik | yeah |
| 21:18.39 | Shirik | that's a pretty one |
| 21:18.41 | Shirik | <3 Nechckn |
| 21:18.49 | ralfWORK | how much of the work to build it is electronic in nature and how much is software? |
| 21:19.14 | Shirik | good question |
| 21:19.17 | Nechckn | I am digging the blue leds.. that one is cool |
| 21:19.19 | Shirik | it's a split load so I can't really say |
| 21:19.25 | ralfWORK | Shirik: ok, gotcha |
| 21:19.26 | Shirik | there's a lot of hardware AND a lot of software |
| 21:19.32 | ralfWORK | well I mean like... |
| 21:19.36 | Shirik | Nechckn: We didn't even put them there :) |
| 21:19.39 | ralfWORK | I can solder crap |
| 21:19.40 | Shirik | that's from the power supply |
| 21:19.49 | ralfWORK | but if it's circuit design |
| 21:19.50 | ralfWORK | and stuff |
| 21:19.55 | ralfWORK | then i'd be so in over my head |
| 21:19.59 | Nechckn | It's actually quie the complicated bot.. from what Shirik has told me.. you could do one that is much more simple |
| 21:20.01 | Shirik | ralfWORK: Can you design a circuit to convert a logic-level serial line into a RS232 serial line? |
| 21:20.09 | Shirik | that's just one of the many boards that we've had to do |
| 21:20.10 | ralfWORK | Shirik: no sir |
| 21:20.18 | Shirik | and everything on there is hand designed, aside from the PC/104 |
| 21:20.33 | Nechckn | Oh my.. I didn't realize that- that's quite cool. |
| 21:20.39 | ralfWORK | ok, gotcha |
| 21:20.49 | Shirik | the software is also all custom aside from the OS |
| 21:20.55 | Nechckn | I thought it was more kit with extras.. not the other way around. |
| 21:21.36 | Shirik | We have some mechanical engineers make that plastic casing, we have some electrical engineers handling the power circuitry, we have computer engineer (me) handling the interface between electrical components and software |
| 21:21.45 | Shirik | and then we have software engineers (me and one other) developing the AI |
| 21:21.47 | ralfWORK | oh ok |
| 21:21.52 | ralfWORK | so it's a team thing |
| 21:21.53 | ralfWORK | cool |
| 21:21.57 | Shirik | yeah |
| 21:22.25 | Nechckn | See... that's the kind of thing I think would be fun.. that way you could "do" the things you know and still learn bits from what the others are doing. |
| 21:22.34 | Shirik | So I'll design the circuits that convert electrical signals into something that the microcontrollers that can read it, and then the software that provides a way to access it, etc. |
| 21:22.45 | Shirik | Nechckn: Yeah, I've learned a lot doing this :D |
| 21:22.53 | ralfWORK | Shirik: school project? |
| 21:22.54 | Shirik | Like before two days ago I had no idea how to AC couple a circuit |
| 21:23.12 | Shirik | ralfWORK: The school's chapter of the IEEE group, but other than that it's not school sponsored really |
| 21:23.29 | ralfWORK | Shirik: ok, so like, |
| 21:23.41 | ralfWORK | it's not a class project, but you're doing it with people you go to school with? |
| 21:23.46 | Shirik | right |
| 21:23.50 | ralfWORK | awesome |
| 21:24.02 | Nechckn | what school do you attend? |
| 21:24.27 | Shirik | embry-riddle aeronautical |
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| 21:24.42 | Nechckn | oh.. I forgot.. let's tie this into the topic "WoW, that's cool!" okay, continue... =) |
| 21:25.28 | Nechckn | Daytona.. pfft... what, are you on vacation? ehhehe |
| 21:25.31 | Duman | argh! |
| 21:25.36 | Duman | post timer for edits = wtf |
| 21:25.46 | kd3 | ya. that's damn annoying |
| 21:25.50 | Shirik | hehehe |
| 21:25.59 | Shirik | Actually, when you live near the beach |
| 21:26.02 | Shirik | you kinda don't go anymore |
| 21:26.13 | Shirik | much like I lived up near DC but never went to the smithsonian museums, etc. |
| 21:26.59 | Nechckn | indeed... I know the feeling. actually been to VA Beach 3 more times since moving from there than when I lived there. =) same with smithsonians and such here |
| 21:27.13 | kd3 | meh, I know the feeling. lived in tampa til I was 10. had season passes to disney but it's not like we ever went |
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| 21:28.08 | Nechckn | Hmm.. surely some bizarre psychology at work here! |
| 21:29.35 | kd3 | shifting gears for a sec... wtf? via fark: "[Stupid] San Francisco's new federal building built without air conditioning and has an elevator that stops only at every third floor" |
| 21:29.53 | ralfWORK | huh? |
| 21:30.20 | Nechckn | wow... crazy |
| 21:30.33 | ralfWORK | I wonder how many people got fired for that |
| 21:30.51 | Lunessa | No A/C ... ? |
| 21:30.54 | Lunessa | WTF? |
| 21:30.58 | kd3 | fired... the leads involved should have their heads on pikes |
| 21:31.08 | kd3 | the article in question: http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/San_Francisco_s_Green_Building_Nightmare_5428.html |
| 21:31.27 | Lunessa | Did the designers ever suffer a muggy summer in SF? Fuck - it's BRUTAL |
| 21:31.56 | Nechckn | it's a very handsome structure... but surely there must be some system of AC |
| 21:32.08 | ralfWORK | Shirik: so uhm, what's the bot gonna do at the end of the day? |
| 21:32.51 | Shirik | It needs to search for several payloads on the court (which varies between hard, sandy, and gravel terrain) |
| 21:32.57 | Shirik | It needs to pick the best 4 and then bring them back to base |
| 21:33.12 | Shirik | if you pick more than 4, the highest scoring ones you got are awarded to the other team |
| 21:33.31 | ralfWORK | oh it's a competition |
| 21:33.47 | ralfWORK | what's "the best 4"? |
| 21:34.20 | Shirik | There are 7 blocks of 4 categories (2 for each except for the best one, which only has 1) |
| 21:34.31 | Shirik | they score 10, 20, 30, and 35 points |
| 21:34.47 | Shirik | we want to get one of the 20, two of the 30, and the 35 for best score |
| 21:34.59 | ralfWORK | so... |
| 21:35.02 | ralfWORK | just random blocks? |
| 21:35.02 | Shirik | and yes, it's a double elimination tournament |
| 21:35.18 | Shirik | yup |
| 21:35.24 | Shirik | but we can't choose randomly |
| 21:35.27 | Shirik | but they could be placed anywhere |
| 21:35.42 | ralfWORK | hrm |
| 21:35.48 | Shirik | so it has to find them, distinguish between them, and bring them back |
| 21:35.50 | ralfWORK | do they have numbers on them? |
| 21:35.51 | ralfWORK | I mean |
| 21:36.05 | Shirik | they have an RFID tag on them as well as color coded |
| 21:36.06 | ralfWORK | what's the distinguishing bits between the blocks? |
| 21:36.10 | ralfWORK | ahh |
| 21:36.18 | Shirik | the RFID tag, though, has a range of about 6 inches |
| 21:36.25 | kd3 | ouch |
| 21:36.25 | Shirik | you won't be able to tell what it is until you get to it, basically |
| 21:36.29 | ralfWORK | eek |
| 21:36.30 | ralfWORK | ok gotcha |
| 21:36.35 | ralfWORK | and time is important? |
| 21:36.46 | Shirik | you also won't be able to tell where it is based on the RFID tag |
| 21:36.48 | Shirik | 6 minute time limit |
| 21:36.53 | ralfWORK | k |
| 21:37.54 | Shirik | in the event of a tie, whomever picked up the last block in their bin first wins |
| 21:38.06 | Nechckn | kd3 I read that man... holy damn. As the end states, green is supposed to take into account the impact on the pople. That is outrageous! |
| 21:39.09 | Nechckn | Shirik I just think that is so cool... when is the competition? |
| 21:39.16 | Shirik | early april |
| 21:39.19 | Shirik | so we're running out of time :P |
| 21:39.38 | Nechckn | damn... I hope your- eh hem- software folks are up to the task |
| 21:39.48 | Nechckn | that is a really short time to debug and all |
| 21:39.54 | Shirik | hey, I'm one of them! |
| 21:40.05 | Nechckn | my point exactly ehhehhehehheeh |
| 21:40.07 | Shirik | also, we have a programming competition this friday-saturday |
| 21:40.17 | Shirik | starts friday 7pm |
| 21:40.20 | Shirik | goes for 24 hours straight |
| 21:40.40 | ralfWORK | how's that work? |
| 21:40.44 | Nechckn | good god... I hope you get a really big cash prize of some sort |
| 21:40.47 | Nechckn | =) |
| 21:41.07 | ralfWORK | Shirik: any guesses how much money in materials it will/has cost? |
| 21:41.17 | Shirik | I can tell you how much so far |
| 21:41.28 | Shirik | but these numbers might be a bit whack because some of this stuff is aircraft-grade material |
| 21:41.34 | Shirik | because that's what we have at the school :P |
| 21:41.37 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 21:41.38 | ralfWORK | k |
| 21:41.45 | Shirik | The PC/104 was $2200 |
| 21:41.52 | Shirik | that you can't avoid, it's a mini-computer :P |
| 21:41.55 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 21:42.01 | Shirik | Each of the microcontrollers was $16, we have two. |
| 21:42.17 | Shirik | Each of the relays was $49, we have two |
| 21:42.53 | Shirik | The fault circuit was 4 transistors and a 556 timer which probably cost about $6 |
| 21:43.07 | ralfWORK | so sounds like under 3k? |
| 21:43.40 | Shirik | The serial conversion circuit had a MUX, MAX233, and a transistor, which would have been about $10. Yeah I'd estimate about $2700 |
| 21:43.54 | Shirik | after you factor in the plastic materials, etc. |
| 21:44.25 | Shirik | The power supply probably cost quite a bit |
| 21:44.26 | Saint-N | the pc/104 was sexy though! |
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| 21:44.32 | Saint-N | you can't put a price on sexy! |
| 21:44.36 | Shirik | yes, it's named anna |
| 21:45.53 | Saint-N | Analytical No Not Anal Machine |
| 21:46.00 | Saint-N | ^^ shiriks codename |
| 21:46.04 | ralfWORK | hehehehe |
| 21:46.17 | Shirik | that's awesome. |
| 21:48.20 | Saint-N | I gn0es! |
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| 21:48.39 | Saint-N | shhh be quiet peppy is back |
| 21:49.33 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, it's a ghost. Carry on, do. |
| 21:49.39 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, zenzelezz. |
| 21:50.01 | Saint-N | mmm licorice |
| 21:50.15 | Saint-N | dammit now I made my self hungry for that taste |
| 21:50.30 | Saint-N | today is not going well for mr.stomach and mr.brain |
| 21:51.13 | Lopeppeppy | Yik. Licorice is not nice. Chocolate is always good though. |
| 21:51.23 | Saint-N | mr.stomach says "man I want some orange juice go get me some" mr.brain says "sure!" then I walk downstairs and mr.brain has promptly forgotten that I wanted orange juice |
| 21:51.40 | Saint-N | only to remember after I'm back upstairs in my office |
| 21:51.49 | Saint-N | and mr.stomach reminds mr.brain that I wanted orange juice |
| 21:52.04 | Saint-N | its strawberry twizzlers |
| 21:52.14 | Saint-N | how can you not like strawberry twizzlers? |
| 21:55.19 | ralfWORK | ... |
| 21:56.04 | Lopeppeppy | Easily... yukky. |
| 21:56.14 | Lopeppeppy | If it ain't chocolate, what's the point? |
| 21:56.33 | NightHawkTheSane | strawberry twizzlers != licorice... |
| 21:56.57 | Lopeppeppy | Still don't equal good either though. |
| 21:57.26 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thats another matter entirely :P |
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| 21:59.22 | Lopeppeppy | Make mine Godiva, kthx. |
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| 22:08.30 | Duman | twizzlers are nasty |
| 22:08.43 | Duman | red vines are fine |
| 22:11.40 | Shirik | ?? |
| 22:12.07 | kd3 | that's my usual comment when something breaks on the wiki |
| 22:12.28 | Shirik | squid? |
| 22:12.38 | Adys | splat |
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| 22:13.06 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_cache |
| 22:13.27 | Shirik | oh right |
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| 22:14.44 | Duman | how mnay squid servers do you have in front of it? |
| 22:14.58 | kd3 | dunno. would have to ask the wikia techs |
| 22:15.00 | Duman | ahh |
| 22:15.23 | Duman | any idea how much traffic wowwiki does? |
| 22:16.05 | kd3 | lots. we've been in the alexa top 1k for a while now. think we've broken 3M daily page views for a while too |
| 22:16.52 | zenzelezz | any stats on most popular pages on the wiki? |
| 22:17.16 | Adys | stats were removed for server issues |
| 22:17.17 | Adys | :P |
| 22:17.35 | kd3 | kirkburn would know but his laptop hates life right now |
| 22:18.42 | kd3 | damn it dotted |
| 22:20.53 | Saint-N | oo my adsense on wowdev has made me a whole 8.49 so far ;P |
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| 22:48.29 | batrick | Shirik|zZz: right |
| 23:02.45 | foxlit | It'd be trivial to arrange third-party tracking via scripts |
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| 23:28.05 | foxlit | ~seen Tuller |
| 23:28.09 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 21h 49m 50s ago, saying: 'err gorilla'. |
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| 23:44.17 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4822935263&sid=1 could probably use another bump :*( |
| 23:44.22 | foxlit | Poor topic feels neglected |
| 23:44.35 | foxlit | Though if someone could run that test on the PTR client first, it'd be <3 <3 |
| 23:54.27 | batrick | Shirik|zZz: pcall bug doesn't work on it =) |
| 23:54.33 | batrick | already it's better than LuaTask |
| 23:54.36 | Shirik | batrick: lmao |
| 23:54.48 | batrick | i'm a beast |
| 23:55.56 | batrick | although if I create a large number of tasks (about n > 250) it segfaults |
| 23:55.58 | batrick | i dunno why :( |
| 23:58.19 | batrick | probably forgetting to pop an element somewhere on the kernel |
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