IRC log for #wowroster on 20070403

00:00.44lhunathzanix: that link still not working for you?
00:26.24Zerylit's not, but i downloaded it for him
00:26.28Zerylfoxy, you release it yet?
00:26.57FoxyI posted a beta from what was finished last night
00:26.58lhunathoh so the link works for you but not for him? ;o
00:27.21Zerylya
00:27.24Zeryli'm using opendns
00:27.27Zerylit' wokring just fine
00:27.33Zeryland foxy: my code?
00:27.37Zeryllike what I did last night?
00:27.42Foxyyep
00:27.49Zerylcool, any feedback yet?
00:28.03Foxythere does seem to be some issues on my end but no feed back to my post yet
00:28.13Zerylwhat issues
00:28.26Foxynot inserting some lines...
00:28.31Zerylwtf :(
00:29.14Foxyseems when I do cart and gath together in an upload if gath inserts cart stops on duplicates and does not finish inserts for that zone... might just be me
00:29.22Zerylhrmm
00:29.29Zerylit should step through them one at a time
00:29.30Foxygoing to test some more later
00:29.31Zerylso it shouldn't matter
00:35.32Zanixyeah, the link doesnt work lhunath
00:35.49FoxyZeryl, one or well two things we missed... fishing and treasure for cart
00:36.06Zanixcart for treasure is cart_opn I think
00:36.22Zeryli haven't added it yet
00:36.44FoxyI was reading the other day one or the other open/treasure doesn't work
00:37.10FoxyI used treasure and it worked for footlockers...
00:38.00ZanixI cant remember to be honest
00:38.06Foxyhehe
00:38.59Foxyyou know I didn't think too many would be intrested in this project but it seems to be getting a lot of hits
00:40.50Anaxent_will try to test it tonight after 24 that is
00:40.59Foxy:-D
00:41.01Anaxent_wso does it work with cart now
00:41.09Zerylyes
00:41.10Anaxent_was I do not use gather anymore
00:41.12Foxyya
00:41.13Anaxent_wcool
00:41.19Anaxent_wso exiting
00:41.43FoxyZeryl how do I lock a tread, this forum is not like my bb on nuke :-D
00:41.51Anaxent_wand then to port to DF shoudl be a breeze
00:42.01Zeryldown at the bottom left of the actual thread
00:42.05Anaxent_wis it using get for the forms
00:42.05Zerylshould be a little lock icon
00:42.08Foxyyeah all pages are localized now
00:45.25Anaxent_wso what changes were made to update.php
00:45.40Anaxent_wonly to add the gather upload filed right
00:45.46Zerylyeppers
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00:50.11Zerylso ya
00:50.18Zerylzanix, i'm switching to SMF
00:57.27Anaxent_wand is this addon now using all the rosters path $var
00:58.05Foxyya
00:58.33Anaxent_wgreat news
00:58.48Anaxent_wi wish all addon devs used them
00:59.29FoxyWell Zeryl and Zanix helped there
00:59.35FoxyI was lost till now..
00:59.46Foxynext time I'll know how to start :-D
01:00.14Anaxent_weven better news to hear thx Foxy
01:00.25Foxyyep
01:00.53Foxy<PROTECTED>
01:01.44Zanixhehe
01:01.49Zeryl;)
01:01.50Zanixgood news Z
01:01.56Zanixif you like it
01:10.31Zerylya, maybe
01:10.34Zeryli just broke it
01:10.38Zeryland deleted my mysql db
01:10.41Zeryli screwed up
01:10.59Foxylol
01:11.02Anaxent_wso I will run into issue with DF
01:11.04Anaxent_whttp://wow-deception.com/addons/gatherer/flash/gatherer.swf?addonResults=http://wow-deception.com/addons/gatherer/results.php&amp;continent=&amp;map=
01:11.16lhunathzanix: you sure it's 404? not dns failure or anything else?
01:11.35Zanixhehe
01:12.26Zanixhttp://wow-deception.com/modules/wowrosterdf/addons/gatherer/flash/gatherer.swf?addonResults=http://wow-deception.com/addons/gatherer/results.php&amp;continent=&amp;map=
01:12.29Zanixthat one anax
01:13.19Zanixhttp://wow-deception.com/modules/wowrosterdf/addons/gatherer/results.php?continent=1&map=ASHENVALE
01:13.28Zanixhttp://wow-deception.com/modules/wowrosterdf/addons/gatherer/results.php?continent=&map=
01:13.35Zanixbut that has a 403 error
01:13.42Zanixlhunath: I think its a dns error
01:13.54Zanixbut im gonna upload a copy of jUU to our site
01:13.57Zerylanax: what are the chances I could install gentoo in my vps?
01:13.59Zanixin your download
01:14.02Zerylinstead of FC3?
01:15.01Zerylorif i went to a dedicated server, could I do it there?
01:20.30FoxyI like your site nice work
01:25.13Anaxent_wits fc4
01:25.45Anaxent_wbtu unfortanatly it can not bedone unless it will work with the kernall we use
01:26.22Zeryl:(
01:26.49Anaxent_wim going to build a fc6 box this weekend
01:27.00Anaxent_wfor my home use that is
01:27.13Anaxent_wthen try to run wow see how that goes
01:27.59Zerylfinally
01:28.02ZerylI got smf working
01:28.05Zerylwith packages
01:28.26Zerylno i didn't
01:28.28Zerylwtf
01:28.37Zerylscrew it
01:29.18Zeryleven with a full chmod of 777 on ALL FILES and ALL DIRECTORIES it SILTL doesn't work
01:29.21Zerylso forget it
01:33.08Anaxent_wwowah lame
01:45.26Zanixvery
01:47.26Zeryloh well
01:49.03lhunathchmod 777 is evil!
01:49.13Zanixdont start that again
01:49.21Foxylol it is
01:49.24Zanixhehe
01:49.26Zanixi know
01:51.46ZerylI need to find a server that offers gentoo for a vps
01:52.14Zerylbut it doesn't matter, i won't find one for the price i got at startlogic
01:52.16Anaxent_wwhy do you need gentoo
01:52.24Zeryli don't like using outdated software
01:52.26Zerylsimple as that
01:52.32Anaxent_wmakes sence
01:52.44Anaxent_ware you running vista yet
01:52.45Anaxent_wlol
01:52.47Zerylno
01:52.58Zerylnothing works very well on it
01:53.05Zerylthere is a difference between outdated, and usable ;P
01:53.09Zerylusable/stable
01:53.18Anaxent_whaha yes very very true
01:55.52Zerylcleaning up my fs again
01:56.01Zerylwhoa!
01:56.06Zerylgot it down to 14gb free!
01:56.11Zerylgot rid of 8gb :)
01:57.08Zanixcool
01:57.23ZanixI got rid of 30 gb, not by my choise though
01:57.35Zeryl:(
01:57.38ZanixIm never leaving my HD at a computer place ever again
01:57.41Zerylthis is on my vps i got rid of that
01:57.46Zeryli haven't cleaned my local machine
01:57.50Zeryli got a ton of duplicates
01:59.37Anaxent_wyeah it is hard to trust cpu shops with your data
01:59.54Anaxent_wcuz the first thing they like to do is os install
02:05.22Zeryli'm bored, again, i'm tired of being bored
02:14.28Anaxent_wwell im hungry
02:14.37Anaxent_wwhats for dinner guys
02:16.49FoxyPB&J
02:20.47Anaxent_wI havnt had one of them since I was a kid
02:20.49Anaxent_wwell guys
02:20.54Anaxent_wtime to head home for the night
02:20.54Foxylol
02:20.59Foxycya
02:21.01Zeryli had a reuben
02:21.07Anaxent_wI have gatherer installed now in my DF installl
02:21.07Foxy^hum
02:21.10Foxyyum*
02:21.17Anaxent_wjust need to fix a few links
02:21.18Foxyworking okay?
02:21.20Zerylcool
02:21.27ZerylI figured there would be a thing or two to fix for DF
02:21.34Anaxent_wwell not sure if it is working ok yet
02:21.54Foxylet us know on the DF fix or post fixed files plz
02:22.08Anaxent_wI can view the flash via the direct link to it but not any of the maps for it yet
02:22.16Anaxent_woh yeah of coarse
02:22.35Zerylzanix
02:22.39Zanixno
02:22.43Zerylok
02:22.44Anaxent_wthe installs of addons in df does not work they why it does in standalone
02:22.47Zanixlol
02:23.12Anaxent_was for some reason it does not catch the ! select statement
02:23.14Zanixwhats up Zeryl
02:23.27Foxythe flash requires the variables in gatherer.php to echo
02:23.33Zerylthe installer config for 1.8 addons, ($installer->add_config("'110','recipe_conf',NULL,'blockframe','menu'");) where does that number come from?
02:23.50Anaxent_wso for now I had to just include the install file at the tiop of the index page then comment it after it installs
02:24.19Anaxent_wlater
02:24.33Zeryllater?
02:27.35Foxyguess he plans to get back on hehe
02:28.29Zanixthe number is just an 'order' number
02:28.46Zanixwhat order it shows up
02:28.46Zerylwhere do I get an order number?
02:28.48Zeryllol
02:28.59Zerylwe might want to have some sort of way to distribute those
02:33.39Zerylthat was wierd zanix
02:33.51Zerylthe db i specified in the install didn't exist, but it still did the sql anyway
02:36.21Zeryland installing the made by addon, does nothing in the menu
02:37.04Zeryland I can't get my guild to load
02:37.07Zeryl# Guild [ Conviction ] - Deleted
02:37.07Zeryl# Deleted 1 guild with mis-matched guild-id
02:41.41Zerylhrmm, some wierd thigns
02:42.37Zanixthe order number is of your choosing
02:43.02Zanixand the menu doesnt get addon buttons
02:43.04Zanixyet
02:43.09Zerylhrmm
02:43.10Zerylok
02:43.13Zanixplegg still has to work on it
02:45.44Zeryli'm gonna be afkish, i'll still read, but i'm gonna clean my living room
02:53.33Zanixk
03:29.31Zerylbak
03:29.36Zerylback even
03:34.08FoxyZeryl, the script you used to echo the array last night do you have that saved as a file or was that just part of a test
03:36.15Zerylthat was just a test
03:36.20Zerylit's easy to recreate though, why/Z
03:36.23Zeryl?*
03:37.10Foxy... thinking about the .lua exports... that array was almost exactly the cart arrays.... never the less...
03:37.25Zerylya, it was just an array, i'll need to do some tweakign to get it to be a carto export
03:37.39Zeryllet me finish clearing notices on this script, and i'll whip one up for y
03:37.41Zerylya*
03:38.05Foxyoh that's kewl, I was going to start on it and gatherer... but whatever...
03:38.28Foxythink it should write to a file on server or open a page and echo arrays
03:38.36Zanixhey zeryl, if you are bored, and want to do something
03:38.38Zeryli think it should present a file to downloa
03:38.39Zeryldownload
03:38.49Zeryli'm fixing a script, then gonna write the exporter, then do what you want me to :)
03:39.00Zanixlol, ok
03:39.08Foxyhehe
03:39.17Foxyhe likes to find work I think
03:39.18Zanixi was gonna ask if you want to port over the login.php class from AP over to 1.8
03:39.26Zanixhe does
03:39.31Zanixhe asks me for work all the time
03:39.39Foxylol
03:39.39Zanixbut i never give him any
03:39.48Foxyso cruel
03:39.53Zanixbecause I can never think of what needs to get done
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03:43.40Zerylok, i'ms tarting ont he exporter
03:43.42Zerylmaybe
03:43.43Zerylmeh
03:43.43Zerylwhere is the login class
03:43.43Zeryllib/login.php?
03:43.44Zanixyeah
03:43.45Zerylwhat needs to be ported? do you know?
03:43.46Zanixthe one in AP supports a mini user system
03:43.46Zanixit basicly standalone
03:43.46Zanixif you wanna add groups as well, go for it
03:43.46Zerylread dev ;)
03:44.35Foxyfor cart mining...
03:44.36FoxyCartographer_MiningDB = {
03:44.36Foxy<PROTECTED>
03:44.36Foxy<PROTECTED>
03:45.03Foxyexport by zone
03:45.25Foxysame is true for herb
03:45.43Zerylyep
03:45.47Zeryli got the original files still ;)
03:46.02Foxyhehe kk
04:03.43Zanixcouldnt you use one function for all cart files?
04:04.24FoxyI'd think so since the structure is the same
04:04.53Foxyarray structure... only difference is the array name and values
05:15.34Foxycya all tomorrow perhaps... time for a nap
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06:07.09lhunathzanix: any chance you could add a news thingy about juniuploader?
06:07.27ZanixWrite on up and ill post
06:08.57lhunathoki
06:18.31lhunathzanix: http://www.lyndir.com/stuff/news
06:19.39lhunathand if at all possibly, a linky on the 'jUniUploader Forum' text =)
06:25.14Zanixok
06:26.58lhunaththanks :)
06:28.20Zanixok, posted
06:29.37Zanixoh, and that link works now
06:29.41Zanixfor some reason
06:30.37lhunathcool.
06:30.54lhunathI uploaded a newer version, many that did it dunno.
06:33.07Zanixwho knows
06:47.13Zanixnight guys
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13:04.16DrWilylol
13:04.30DrWilyYour powers are useless against ME!
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14:35.49KyrinZ, still slepin'?
14:35.53Kyrinerr, sleeping
14:45.54KyrinPleegWat around?
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14:58.54goku2083hello
14:59.11goku2083could someone help me with installing the wowroster
14:59.31goku2083im having a little difficulty
15:00.05goku2083:banana
15:03.12Kyrindoh!
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15:12.04goku2083hello is there anyone here that ill be able to help me setup this wowroster on my page
15:15.34Kyrindamn!
15:15.37Kyrinmissed again
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15:27.21GeoffPAnyone at the computer to help with installation?
15:27.35KyrinHi
15:27.35Foxyya
15:27.47GeoffPTwo people? Yipes!
15:28.02Foxywhat's the install roster or and addon/
15:28.18GeoffPOkay, I believe I have everything done through Step 2 of WowRoster.
15:28.45GeoffPMy problem's in step 3, where it tells me that I have an outdated client version of mysql.
15:29.08Foxywhat version of mysql is on your server?
15:29.11GeoffPServer version is 4.1.14, which it says is fine, but it tells me that my client version is 3.23.49, and not supported.
15:29.13Kyrinwhat php version?
15:29.47GeoffPI'm not sure how to find that out.
15:29.55Kyrinphpinfo page
15:30.08Kyrincreate a page containing: <?phpinfo();?>
15:30.43GeoffP2.6.3, I believe.
15:30.50Kyrinphp?
15:30.54Kyrinyou better hope not
15:30.57Foxylol
15:31.17GeoffPHaha, I'm doing my best to be a beginner at all this... hang on.
15:31.23Foxybro if you pay for hosting and it's that far out...
15:31.25Foxylol
15:31.29Kyrinyeah, for real
15:31.50Kyrinlike I said, make a phpinfo page, should tell us what we need to know, your php version and your mysql client info
15:32.44GeoffPOh, okay, when I start up the Wow Roster Installation, it says I'm using 4.3.11
15:33.19GeoffPAnd it lists my "Client API version" of mysql as 3.23.49
15:33.28Kyrink
15:33.39Kyrinyou pay for hosting?
15:33.45Foxycan you give us a web address
15:33.55GeoffPOf the main site?
15:33.57Kyrindo you have control of the server software in any way?
15:34.01Foxyyeah
15:34.01GeoffPNo.
15:34.06Kyrinyeah
15:34.10GeoffPholycarnage.net, nothing's up.
15:34.42Kyrinhrm
15:34.46KyrinrrDNS
15:34.56Kyrinah, yahoo hosting?
15:35.12GeoffPYes. Too beginner?
15:36.04KyrinI dunno, I'm not familiar with their provisioning, but you're right, you have no control of the server software in *any* way, and no hope of getting it upgraded either :P
15:36.21Foxythat blows...
15:36.29GeoffPSo your main suggestion is "do something else!"
15:36.39Foxysec
15:37.01Kyrinis the mysql server also from the same provider?
15:37.51GeoffPTo the best of my knowledge, I'm looking.
15:38.26KyrinWell... your mysql server, is the address 'localhost' ?
15:39.07Foxyusually, unless they specify a different address in his account settings
15:39.22Foxybeing that it's yahoo I wouldn't doubt it
15:40.02FoxyGeoffp,  make a php file and insert this line in it  <?php phpinfo(); ?>
15:40.08GeoffPIt actually told me to use "mysql" for both
15:40.09Foxysave it and upload it
15:40.26Kyrinwell, it just seems odd that they would give him hosting with client version X and server has version Y... they'd be screwing all their clients, it's not like this is a problem that would only be affecting roster
15:40.45Foxytrue
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15:41.11FoxyGeoffP can you upload that php file and post me the url...
15:41.24Foxyjust needs to be a php file like this
15:41.25GeoffPWorking on it.
15:41.30Foxy<?php phpinfo(); ?>
15:41.36Kyrinwhat kinda traffic are you expecting?
15:42.15GeoffPFairly low, in my opinion.
15:42.37GeoffPFoxy:
15:42.38GeoffPhttp://holycarnage.net/info.php
15:42.49Kyrinand you paying anything for it atm?
15:43.05Foxywow his client is       3.23.49
15:43.26GeoffP$8.95/mo
15:43.26Kyrin<PROTECTED>
15:43.29Kyringg yahoo
15:43.42Kyrinphp build from 2005?
15:43.58Foxyand out dated php too
15:44.04Kyrinwell yea
15:44.04Foxywhat's with that
15:44.15Kyrinslackers imo
15:44.27Harshmagetwo words:  not worth .....it...crap..I can't count this early
15:44.29Foxyhum... yahoo does there own builds on both
15:44.39Foxyat that rate bro
15:44.40Kyrinheh
15:44.44Foxylet me suggest my host
15:44.47KyrinYeah, definately not
15:44.58Zeryl|Sleepor startlogic.com
15:45.06Zeryl|Sleepermm, hi guys ;)
15:45.10KyrinI'd offer to host it for ya
15:45.11KyrinZ
15:45.15Kyrinneed to ask question :P
15:45.21Foxyhttp://www.beachcomber-creations.com/
15:45.35Foxythese guys will do anything at any time to please you
15:45.37Foxy:-D
15:45.49FoxyI've been with them for 2 years now
15:46.15FoxycPanel for server controls, not too bad :-D
15:46.30KyrinCan i get a specific name on my donation record, or just my username only?
15:47.21KyrinI love Plesk
15:47.51Foxy10GeoffP01 I'm using the Standard plan for my hosting
15:48.00Foxyit's very nice to start with
15:48.07KyrinZeryl: Can i get a specific name on my donation record, or just my username only?
15:48.20HarshmagecPanel seems to be easier to manage than plesk or the Godaddy homebrew
15:48.28Foxyyes
15:48.45FoxycPanel is good for beginners too hehe
15:48.59Kyrinwell, with cPanel it's all on one page
15:49.09GeoffPFoxy, does that include a domain hosted?
15:49.12ZerylKyrin, I do believe that it can be changed, if need be
15:49.33Zerylor you could create a user w/ that name ;)
15:49.49Kyrin>.<
15:50.09KyrinI just wanna give a donation on behalf of the PAA 'cause we use it so much
15:50.23Kyrinoh, and for the record, I hated your April fools joke >.<
15:50.31Zerylhehe, sorry ;)
15:50.39Zeryland what is PAA? ohh, penny arcade allicane?
15:50.42Zerylalliance*?
15:50.44Kyrinso mean, i was excited as hell, and then I was like, wait... it can't be...
15:50.46Kyrinyea
15:51.36Zerylhey foxy, in the release you just made .9B, did you include the updated enUS.php?
15:51.52Foxyyeah should be
15:51.53Kyrinroster.pa-guilds.org  12guilds, and possibly letting more in =/
15:52.25Foxybad address
15:52.36KyrinZeryl: if I put in 'comments' field to change the name to 'Penny Arcade Alliance' is that doable?
15:52.54Kyrinroster.pa-guilds.org is a bad address?
15:52.56GeoffPFoxy, the link you gave me for what to use for hosting, do the prices listed include a registered domain name, or is that a seperate issue?
15:53.41Zerylit's looking like everyone is having issues with the addition I made to enUS.php
15:53.54ZerylKyrin: ya, also send zanix a PM on the forums, so that he can do that for you
15:54.07Kyrink
15:54.13Foxyif you have a domain name already registered you're good to go it does not include the price of one if I remember right
15:55.12GeoffPBah, I'll need a new one then.. suggestions for cheap domain name grabbers?
15:55.19Foxyhttp://beachcomber.net/hosting.htm
15:55.26Zerylnoe, you didn't include the enUS.php :(
15:55.33Foxywhy you need a new one?
15:55.46Foxyyou sure?
15:55.52Harshmageheh...I like that... "And the award for the best season finale EVER goes to.... BSG, Season 3"
15:56.03Kyrinheh
15:56.05GeoffPThe one I have is through Yahoo, they'll pull it if I cancel my monthly service
15:56.06Kyrinkotw motd :P
15:56.26Harshmageyeah...it is the BEST one
15:57.07KyrinCha-ching :P
15:57.32Kyrindoh!
15:57.34Zerylfoxy: 100% sure, there is no zonecont line
15:57.47Kyrinwas there somewhere to specify where I wanted my donation to go towards?
15:57.58Foxyoh sh8t your right
15:58.00Foxylol
15:58.01Zeryltowards?
15:58.08KyrinI want it to go towards something I'll use, not Dragonfly development =(
15:58.18Zerylit's for server fees
15:58.25Kyrinoh, k
15:58.26Zerylit's for wowroster.net's hosting
15:58.27Zerylhehe
15:58.32Zerylwe're all doing this free ;)
15:58.34Kyrinso just ignore 'Your donation will assist the ongoing development and porting of further modules for CPG Dragonfly CMS.'
15:58.42Zerylhaha
15:58.46Zerylhe didn't change the default text
15:58.52Kyrinheh :P
15:58.56Foxyuse a .us name, I did, godaddy special offer :-D
16:02.09Foxydamn it, I goofed that one bad
16:08.04GeoffPTrying to register a domain name for hosting elsewhere, GoDaddy is asking me to enter at least two valid nameservers.. what are they asking me for?
16:08.33Foxywhen you sign up for hosting
16:08.47Foxythe host will give you name servers to point your domain name too
16:09.11GeoffPOkay, so in other words, it doesn't apply to me, as I'm purchasing a new domain.
16:09.11Foxynameserver1.host.com  like that
16:09.29Foxycorrect... you can change the dns at any time
16:11.52Kyrinuse zoneedit
16:12.03Kyrinor n/m
16:12.07Kyrinit'll come with your hosting
16:12.08Kyrin:P
16:12.13Foxy:-D
16:12.13Kyrinjust not in my case :P
16:12.21Kyrinsince I host my own :)
16:13.01KyrinFor march: Total KBytes 68607742  
16:14.10PleegWathi
16:14.16Kyrin'sup Pleeg
16:14.27PleegWatOn phpinfo: There's a phpinfo page packaged with roster at roster/phpinfo.php
16:17.21Foxyhope he got a new host set up
16:17.58PleegWatHm, we're up to another good start at donations
16:17.58FoxyYahoo must be freaking nuts running hosting packages like that
16:18.20PleegWatyeah. mysql client version << server version...
16:19.56FoxyI'd donate but I'm so broke I've had to eat PB&J s for the last 2 weeks... think it's giving me an ulser too
16:21.17Foxywow how long are the servers due to be down
16:22.37PleegWatwhat servers?
16:22.52FoxyUS wow servers
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16:23.18PleegWatno idea
16:23.23PleegWatno patch this week AFAIK
16:23.28FoxyOh noez... this isn't good
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16:24.09PleegWatchecked on the forums yet?
16:24.28Foxyna,
16:24.53Harshmageit's just 9:30, az time....for us, they're usually not up till 10 or 11
16:25.18PleegWatwell, EU is always 3-11
16:25.22PleegWatbut EU only has one timezone
16:25.35Foxyman I hate DST
16:26.04FoxyIndiana and Arizona use to never change now I have to change my stupid clock! GRRR!
16:26.58PleegWatyeah, they should stop the DST garbage. Economic costs for oversleeping, ppl out of rythm, etc. are higher than the supposed electricity savings
16:27.39Foxytrue dat
16:28.11PleegWatI've even heard research claiming there isn't an electricity saving at all
16:28.48Foxywell no most likely not since you get up before the sun now and have to turn on the lights lol
16:28.55Foxyimo
16:30.29PleegWatwell, need to go off for diner
16:30.30KyrinPleegWat: I figured I would wait 'till the new month so the name would stay up there longer
16:30.46Kyrinthat and it was already over goal last month
16:33.40KyrinI really should spiff up that roster site a bit
16:33.47Kyrinbut I'm horrible with design :P
16:34.19FoxyI love css! http://wowroster.net/pastebin/index.php?show=111
16:34.59KyrinI assume you're lying :P
16:35.22Foxyno really... do everything in div and then apply css :-D
16:35.51HarshmageI love coffee...
16:36.01Foxymaking a fake, well duplicate style sheet to match worldofwarcraft.com
16:36.02Harshmagebut it's not acting very fast
16:36.16Kyrinah, true, I did enjoy using css to adjust the layout of the site, putting the realm status up at the top of my forums instead of wasting space on the sidebar
16:36.54FoxyUH OH!
16:36.55KyrinSo... any suggestions for prettying up that roster landing page I have?
16:36.56FoxyNotice: Undefined variable: output in /home/dragonk/public_html/roster/update.php on line 222
16:36.57FoxyNotice: Undefined index: realm in /home/dragonk/public_html/roster/lib/wowdb.php on line 2099
16:37.19Foxywhen uploading cp, pvp, gatherer, and both cart
16:37.41FoxyKyrin you got a url?
16:37.48Kyrinhttp://roster.pa-guilds.org/
16:38.43Foxythis is for a shared public roster or hosting ya?
16:39.12KyrinThis is for our alliance of guilds
16:39.16Foxykk
16:39.48KyrinI'm working on a "version" of the roster that combines them all
16:40.21Foxymaybe do it like those top 100 guild sites do... you know like a sig from each guild in a list, you can put the stats per guild under their sig or something like that
16:41.40KyrinHrm... yeah, I could use a modded siggen to have a 'guild sig'
16:41.40Foxyyeah that might be kewl too...
16:42.16Foxysomething like this but a better layout etc... http://smcdk.gotop100.com/
16:42.21Zerylhi pleeg ;)
16:42.47Foxyhttp://www.fpsdaily.com/top100/
16:42.53Foxyjust some ideas you know
16:43.30KyrinYeah, I should get the guilds to design banners for their guilds
16:43.39KyrinYay!  WoW gold for prizes :P
16:43.48Foxy:-D
16:47.47Kyrinshit
16:47.49Kyrinpatch today
16:48.58Kyrindidn't we just talk about no patch today?
16:49.16Kyrin10:18 <@PleegWat> no patch this week AFAIK
16:49.21Kyrinbad news >.<
16:49.29Kyrin2.0.12.6546 today
16:50.02Zerylwhat changed?
16:50.05Zerylmore nerfs to ferals?
16:57.27Kyrinhttp://www.wowwiki.com/2.0.12
16:57.33Kyrinfixes just
16:57.39Kyrinerr, just fixes
16:57.45Kyrinlike the bugged instances
16:57.49ZerylPerl guys don't actually code, they just throw fistfuls of scrabble tiles on the floor and type in whatever characters show face up
16:57.56Kyrinand a mac fix
17:04.23Foxylol zeryl
17:06.50Foxyphh... what's the command in prompt to get your current ip
17:06.55Foxybeen too long
17:07.54Zerylifconfig or ipconfig depending on os
17:08.05Zerylbrb
17:12.22PleegWathi
17:12.46PleegWatyet another bugfix patch under 2.0?
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17:37.50Foxycheap theme of worldofwarcraft.com I'm making just for giggles http://66.244.107.188/michaelshirley/
17:38.26Foxyxhtml and css
17:38.54Foxylooks horrable huh?
17:50.14PleegWatI've seen worse
17:50.18PleegWatthe right side is too far right
17:50.18Foxyhaha
17:50.43Foxyyeah there's much to do on it... but hey it actually validates :-D
17:50.45PleegWatthere's a gap between where the 'sheet of paper' ends and where the right border is
17:51.22Foxyyeah I've been looking at that for like 20 minutes... I think the image is bad... the css for it is 100% correct
17:51.54PleegWathm, it's probably the css though
17:52.04PleegWatopera does exactly the same as ff
17:52.51Foxyie too... :-P
17:53.44PleegWatI think it's taking the width for the contentcenter div as an advisory
17:54.04PleegWatthe table inside it is configured 100% so it's pused out to be as wide as possible
17:55.39PleegWatdisable the table width and the div width parameters
17:57.11Foxyrefresh
17:58.18Foxyit's the image :-P
17:58.25PleegWatThe #contentcenter width parameter needs to be removed
17:59.15Foxyrefresh
17:59.27PleegWatyup, that looks better
17:59.53Foxyna, hehe that silly bar image on the side needs edited
17:59.55PleegWatslight disalignment in the right bar, but that was already there and I'd say it needs to be corrected in the images
18:00.09Foxythat's what I was saying hehe
18:01.19Foxythe blank area (refresh) is for side quick links
18:01.32PleegWatfirebug rules
18:01.36Foxyor blocks like in nuke or something like that
18:01.44Foxyfirebug?
18:01.55PleegWatFF addon
18:01.58Foxyoh?
18:02.03Foxynever seen this one
18:02.09PleegWathelps identify what CSS is influencing an element
18:02.29PleegWatIt's got some overlap with the dom inspector, but it's much easier to use
18:02.42PleegWathttp://www.getfirebug.com/
18:03.37PleegWatIt's also how I dug up the armory XML streams in like 30 seconds
18:04.08Foxyway better that WebDev's bar in FF?
18:04.16Foxythat is the veiw CSS huh
18:04.18PleegWathm, don't know that one
18:04.44Foxyyou say it breaks in to DOM? that makes it better :-D
18:05.25Foxythe Web Dev tool bar just lets you inspect and edit on the fly for changes
18:05.30PleegWatYeah, the source it shows, like that in the dom inspector, is the actual code at that moment, including possible javascript changes
18:06.04PleegWatSo it actually allows you to look at stuff like the armoury html code, which you can't with a normal 'view source'
18:06.54Foxykewl
18:11.57Foxythis is nice :-D
18:12.09Foxyman I love Mozilla Dev Center... they document all browsers and the work arounds and not just their own like MS
18:12.27PleegWathm, never looked at that
18:12.38Foxyhttp://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs
18:12.42Foxylots of good reads
18:12.56PleegWatah, right
18:13.08PleegWatI usually check there if I need to know stuff about the DOM framework
18:13.09Foxyhttp://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Useful_CSS_tips:Color_and_Background
18:13.54Foxyvery nice when working with cross browser / os scripting
18:14.58lhunathinteresting.
18:15.28lhunathwhich you always are when you're writing for the web.
18:15.36Foxy:-D
18:16.01Foxyyep, but making a site validate and look the same in all browsers is a challenge some times...
18:16.22lhunathtrust me, I know
18:16.48Foxy<-- gets annoyed with sites that are not 508 compliant or at least have valid mark up
18:16.52lhunathtime and time again I have wished I would one day meet a person called internet explorer so I could beat him up.
18:17.03Foxylol
18:17.12Foxyno no ie5 on mac
18:17.20Foxytalk about a stupid concept
18:17.35lhunathpeople actually use that?
18:17.43lhunathsafari isn't *that* bad
18:18.08Foxydid, I had some umpteen thousand hits from it at my last job
18:19.02Foxyhttp://66.244.107.188/roster/addon.php?roster_addon_name=gatherer&continent=3&map=ZANGARMARSH
18:19.09Foxythat's alot of nodes hehe
18:20.13PleegWatyeah
18:20.17PleegWattakes quite a while to load
18:20.34Foxyyeah...
18:21.04Foxymy isp sucks too... so that's half the time
18:21.05ds001"You will be notified via email if you have been accepted into one of the Age of Conan beta phases. "
18:21.05lhunathpleegwat: tried http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-developer-tools/?page=2 ?
18:21.07Foxyoh
18:21.08ds001btw.. AoC beta signus are up :D
18:21.17Foxylink?
18:21.19lhunathpleegwat: opera's firebug
18:21.30PleegWathm, lemme take a look
18:21.36Foxyhehe
18:21.42ds001http://beta2.ageofconan.com/beta_application/
18:21.53PleegWatWould be nice, we often have trouble getting the more complicated stuff to work in opera
18:22.12PleegWatonce it works in FF and opera, if it still doesn't work in IE, it's usually not worth the bother
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18:22.36ds001Roster Devs are not alloud to register for the AoC beta, because if accepted would distract them from R2.
18:22.39FoxyOpera is, well... haha not my cup of tea to work with
18:28.33PleegWat? where?
18:29.05PleegWatWe're currenlty already being distracted by 1.8
18:29.22PleegWathttp://leegwater-68.demon.nl/RosterSVN/roster1/trunk/
18:29.48lhunathI have to admit I like Firebug more than the Opera Development Center
18:32.40PleegWatYou don't see much of the 1.8 changes in normal view, but the admin section has had a big overhaul, and there have been significant changes to the addon framework
18:35.29ds001I've had a tour by Zanix a few nights ago.  1.8 is very nice.  I really like the addon framework and how your trying to centralize some important code (like link creation) and as a Addon Dev I _really_ like the admin panel plans.
18:36.01ds001and the char.php is purdy. ;)
18:36.29PleegWatthere's a bug in the item bonuses section
18:36.33PleegWatnot sure when it popped up
18:36.58PleegWatand there's a new menu system from AP I still need to insert
18:39.01lhunathsomebody had fun with opacity
18:39.13ds001Something I would like to see but understand it would be a lot of work -- increasing the size of the char.php UI.  rather then 40x40 icons, use 48x48 icons.  If you increased by that I think the talents would all fit in one screen with out scolling.
18:39.39PleegWatHm, not sure about the amount of work
18:39.54PleegWatwould need a lot of size parameters changed
18:39.59ds001using 48x48 icons it should look crisper for 64x64 icons downsized in browser.
18:40.07lhunathand make the font size pixel based so it fits when you zoom / change font size in browser.
18:40.19PleegWatWe've also considered distributing only a 64px icon pack for 1.8
18:41.24ds001also with the larger icons we can fit more info in the center of the UI
18:41.37ds001but the pulldown boxes are nice now. :)
18:41.44PleegWatyeah, they are
18:41.57lhunathsay; I was wondering; to what degree would it be possible to calculate a Wowhead talent calculator ID out of the talent tree; for use with http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=embed
18:42.34lhunathmt_build (optional)Use this variable to set a predefined build.
18:43.15PleegWatlemme see
18:43.58lhunathI'm sure they'd give you the algorythm if you mailed and asked; they're nice people.
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18:44.24KaosWell you could do it easier with the url from the official talent tree as that is just a flat per number of points spent in a talent position in the tree
18:44.31PleegWatThey definitely are, there's already some stuff we're working with them on
18:44.54PleegWatCheck the 1.8 link I gave above. It has blizz talent calculator link
18:45.15lhunathinteresting.
18:45.45PleegWatHm. This ajax frame file is a dirty hack. But how to improve...
18:46.10KaosAh I see, cool :)
18:46.11KaosA nice addon perhaps once 1.8 is with us to see the different talent structures
18:46.11Kaosso a list of everyone in the guild 10+
18:46.21Kaosand then a x/x/x split of their links with links to their talent trees
18:46.46PleegWatPossible
18:46.59Kaosyeah just throwing ideas out there :)
18:47.01PleegWatBut it'd be either one query per char or using subqueries to get the numbers
18:48.34Kaoshow are the talents stored in the DB?
18:48.58PleegWatone record per char per talent
18:49.15Kaosvalue plus description i'm guessing?
18:50.52PleegWatyeah
18:51.57PleegWathttp://www.wowroster.net/pastebin/index.php?show=112
18:55.49PleegWatWe might change it for R2. Have just memberid,tree,x,y,points in the DB and fetch the rest from wowhead
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19:38.35ds001hmmm.. trying to mess with lhunath's jUniUploader.jnlp file... every time I link to it, it just opens as XML..  do i need to make the server know about this file type or something?
19:39.19ds001if I link to lhunath server it works as expected..
19:39.45ds001<-- java Noob.
19:51.39Zerylhttp://www.infernoptix.com/index.htm
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19:58.25Zerylhttp://www.blackwidowbakery.com/demo/meatcake/
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21:04.16HarshmageOh, and Dell Gold level support are nice people.
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23:09.29Zerylsup my people
23:16.12ds001yo zeryl
23:17.26ds001hehe.. funny webjunk.. http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/9422  NSFW
23:19.23Zerylheh
23:19.50Zerylso wrong
23:19.55ds001aye
23:20.13ds001cracks me up tho..
23:21.37ds001look like i managed to break jUU..
23:21.38ds001[  SEVERE: Shell      ]- Command to execute was not found!
23:21.38ds001java.lang.RuntimeException: Command to execute was not found!
23:21.45Zerylha
23:29.13ds001wtf.. guess i can try a reboot.. tis a windows box.. :P
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23:33.51ds001aww.. windows cure-all didn't work.
23:34.55ds001I can't get jUU to launch.. I want my money back.
23:35.43ds001any sort of diag I can run and send to help fix it?

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