IRC log for #wowroster on 20070409

00:02.23Zanixhi fox
00:02.34Zanixcan you test something for me?
00:02.38Foxysure
00:02.48Zanixcheck out roster1 in the svn
00:03.04Zanixwe enabled addon dev read access today
00:03.46Foxycrud... do I need to put in my user/pass?
00:04.08Zanixyes
00:04.18Foxyhehe got to look it up :-P
00:05.08Foxykk, in, what'cha need me to test
00:05.44Zanixjust to see if you can check it out
00:06.01Foxyyeah I'm in
00:06.14Zanixcool
00:06.16Zanixhave fun
00:06.23FoxyStable?
00:06.23Zanixthe addon framework is mostly done
00:06.33Zanixits still alpha status
00:06.37Foxyk
00:07.08Zanixour beta period is going to be longer than with 1.7.x
00:07.16FoxyAJAX :-p
00:07.19Zanixsince 1.8 has some big changes
00:07.27Foxyyeah, good idea
00:07.38FoxyI seen the uniadmin as posted...
00:08.06FoxyI've had no problems so far, but I see there has been some bugs reported already
00:08.41Zanixnot any big ones
00:08.49FoxyOh, has the AddonSDK been  posted for the new roster?
00:09.58Foxymy user pass is not working for roster2, still only Dev access?
00:10.10FoxyJust roster1 is open I take it
00:11.06Zanixno, the sdk is still for 1.7.3
00:11.12Zanixand only roster1 for addon dev access
00:11.26Zanixroster2 framework isnt even done yet
00:11.29FoxyGrrr... I'm so thinking about dropping PHPNuke for my custom CMS or perhaps another CMS system.
00:11.36Foxykk
00:11.36Zanixwell, open that up when its mostly ready
00:11.54Zanixs/well/we'll/
00:12.00Foxywowroster.net is DF yeah
00:12.18Foxyhehe^
00:14.16Zanixyes, it is
00:15.01FoxySay Zanix, is Dragonfly a very secure CMS or does it require a lot of addons for enhanced security... I'm hating nuke atm cause all the script kitties trying to run exploits on Nuke's security
00:18.29Anaxit is very secure
00:18.36Anaxhas a built in security module
00:19.39Foxyhum... I might have to check it out... just hope I can port the nuke db over easy :-D
00:19.53Anaxthat offers security to protect you from bots, flooding, unknown user agents
00:20.07Anaxeven ip, email domains, and referers
00:20.16FoxyBB forums or is it a custom module?
00:20.48AnaxI would try it atleast dragonfly has utilitys to upgrade from other cms like nuke and phpbb
00:21.05Anaxit uses a veriation of bb as the default forum
00:21.32AnaxI and wowroster.net uses the ForumsPro module which also looks like bb with enhanced features
00:21.35Foxykewl, testing it local then... know of a template editor or something of the sort for it?
00:21.53Anaxthe templates are all .html files
00:22.35Anaxso it is fairly easy to template for once you know the variables to use which you can grab from the default theme
00:22.43Foxyoh, heck yeah! I already have some nice wow hacked themes I've been working on the
00:22.55Foxythen*
00:22.57Anaxthe theme system works alot like nuke
00:23.03Anaxwith enhanced fetures
00:23.23Anaxso you could generally run most nuke themes with out issues then add the enhanced data
00:23.52Anaxlike the javascript show/hide feature for all the blocks
00:24.37Foxyhum, strange the core download for DF is sending me in a loop of pages with no download starting
00:25.31Anaxodd
00:26.04FoxyFirefox doesn't like the script they have I guess... works in IE
00:26.33AnaxI downloaded it yesterday with FF
00:26.51Anaxthey have been mmodifying there site quite a bit latley though
00:56.18FoxyHey Zanix you still about?
00:58.03Zanixyep
01:00.36FoxySay, I've had a few people with strange issues being reported lately... I mentioned one earlier this week missing data in the nodeNumber column and now there is one saying nothing at all is being inserted... Might you have any insight as to what may be causing this? I've tried it like a few hundred times local to test and I've not been able to duplicate the errors
01:01.43FoxyI have however ran into some data not being parsed from files... quite strange really
01:02.08FoxyThat is nodes not being inserted at all.
01:02.53FoxyWhen there is already a few duplicates, it seems to ignore the rest of the file? At least it appears that way
01:11.30Zanixweird
01:11.39ZanixI ahvent looked at the code lately
01:11.50Zanixsince Zeryl added cart support
01:14.17Foxyif you happen to have a free moment or so... check out some of the current posts for gatherer 0.9b and the files if you would be so kind... I'm totally lost as to why any one would have missing column data now or even nothing being inserted at all unless the changed some files... or have a very out dated version of mySql
01:15.09Zanixok
01:15.23Foxythey * hehe
01:18.17Zanixis what is in the svn the latest files?
01:19.14Foxyslightly modified : http://wowroster.net/Downloads/get=107.html
01:44.14Zanixah, and a note
01:44.19Zanixabout triggers in 1.8
01:44.21Zanixthey are not final
01:44.50Foxynot final as in?
01:58.31Zanixright
01:58.50Zanixthats why I said the addon system isnt "almost" done
01:59.00Zanixs/isnt/is/
02:02.36Foxyoic
02:02.59Zanixwe are moving to classes
02:03.09Zanixinstead of detecting a variable
02:03.11Zanix$mode
02:03.18Zanixyou will make a class
02:03.32Zanixclass AddOnName {
02:03.44Zanixfunction char_pre () {
02:03.47Zanixfunction char () {
02:03.51Zanixfunction char_post () {
02:04.13Zanixfunction guild_pre () {
02:04.16Zanixfunction guild () {
02:04.19Zanixfunction guild_post () {
02:04.26FoxyThis should be kewl :-D
02:04.30Zanixfunction trigger () {
02:04.39Zanixwe are adding one more trigger
02:04.48Zanixthat is ran independant of CP.lua
02:05.47Foxyso it you will not have to upload cp.lua to upload other .lua files?
02:06.17Zanixright
02:07.03FoxyKewl
02:09.02Zanix1.8 is going to be sweet
02:09.50Foxygrr... testing df local and it keeps giving me access denied...
02:13.07Zanixthats not good
02:13.11Zanixwhat says that?
02:13.43Foxyyeah.... Access Denied that's all... guess it doesn't like being run via an IP and not a domain name
02:19.01Zanixtry localhost
02:19.04Zanixinstead of ip
02:19.09Zanixif its on your computer
02:19.22ZanixI know DF can run as localhost
02:20.08Foxyyep that works... silly though
02:33.14AnaxFoxy: this may help ya as well in a local enviorment
02:33.15Anaxhttp://dragonflycms.org/Wiki/id=20.html
02:33.54Anaxwell guys time for me to start powering down here
02:33.58Anaxtime to head home
02:34.04Anaxyou all have a good one
02:34.09Foxyyou too
02:36.35Foxyhttp://dragonflycms.org/Wiki/id=107.html  Oh my, this is giving me some  ideas hehe
02:40.48Zanixhe, i bet
02:40.56Zanixs/he/heh/
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03:30.57Anaxentye guys im back
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05:45.13RobojerkAnax, how did you post count for anonymous reach negative
05:46.23RobojerkAnax, how did your Anonymous post count reach negative anyways?
05:46.29Robojerkoops
05:46.46ZanixI remember him saying it was because of the application module
05:47.12Robojerkyeah, but everytime someone apps, it adds + 1 to the post count
05:47.26Robojerkthen if you delete the post it removes 1
05:48.08RobojerkI hav enever allowed Anonymous posts on my forums..  The only Anonymous posts I have now are from the application module
05:48.18RobojerkI have 3 test apps
05:48.41Robojerkand 3 as the post count..  I'm just trying to prevent this from happening from people using the module
05:49.21Robojerk=)..  I'm probably just being overly paranoid
05:51.52Anaxentyeah im not sure why I inded up with a negitive
05:52.23AnaxentI know the last time I was locked out is because i set the post count to 0 then deleted a anon post
05:52.37Anaxentthen it dawned on me what I was doing
05:52.57RobojerkYou've been using the module longer, maybe a previous version did it..
05:53.24AnaxentI do not think the app module will cause issue it could have been a previous version but im still thinking it was from the upgrade to fpro 2
05:53.35Anaxentjust not sure yet on really why
05:53.48Robojerkyeah..
05:54.40RobojerkI was thinking of getting rid of half the module
05:54.46AnaxentI would really like to get this app mosule finished though
05:55.10Robojerkon the index.php of Application, why couldn't we add the dropd downs to set desirability there
05:55.18Anaxentand was thinking of making it a roster addon instead with features only for df
05:55.22Robojerkkind of like the forums hides delete post stuff
05:55.40Anaxentyeah we could add most of the files right into index
05:55.52Zanixpersonally, id like to apply it on our site
05:55.56Anaxentand there is alot of html code
05:56.11Zanixso we can recruit dev members and such
05:56.16Robojerklol
05:56.20Anaxentthat needs to be converted to template
05:56.27Anaxentgood idea Zanix
05:56.32RobojerkI was thinking of that too
05:56.45Anaxentif that is the case it should be more of a form builder module then
05:57.10Anaxentthat would allow users to build what they want then have it store it in the db
05:57.56Zanixright
05:58.03Zanixthat sounds good
05:58.11Anaxentbut in the end id like for it to allow users to register to the site and maybe even auto join them to a group once aproved
05:58.28Zanixthat would be very nice
05:58.41RobojerkI don't see how you're going to do the auto join
05:58.50Robojerkabove me =)
05:59.58Anaxentwell the thing is... the df register module allows custiom fields
06:00.24Anaxentbut does not allow custom select option fields
06:00.42RobojerkI kind of wrote out a solution on the forums if I remember correctly
06:01.04Anaxentthe auto join part can come from a preset group in the admin or allow who ever aproves it to choose from a list
06:02.02RobojerkI'll trust you..  I'm still surprising myself with what I am able to do in php consider I am not a programmer in any sense
06:03.58RobojerkIf I want to do something, I look for existing code that does what I want and slowly re-write it..  Kind of like pounding a square peg in a round hole approach..  I've been thinking of taking classes or somthing
06:07.32RobojerkAnyways, like I was saying I was thinking of axeing the Recruitment_settings module and add ability into the index.php but make it so only a certain group can edit desirability or close recruitment
06:08.52RobojerkIt would make it easier to run 2 versions of the module at the same time without having the users rewrite the links in the script
06:08.55Anaxentwell because it is a module you can set the gorup settings in the module gonfig
06:09.46Anaxentor are you talking about each class
06:09.57Anaxenthaving its own group
06:10.38Robojerkeither
06:11.03Anaxentcus right now I have a group called clas leaders
06:11.18Anaxentand only have that module viewable to them
06:11.37RobojerkI'm talking about integrating the modules
06:11.40Robojerkinto 1
06:13.58RobojerkI'll try to do it and show you sometime this week
06:14.08Anaxentah i see what you mean
06:14.18Anaxentthat im sure can be done
06:14.46Anaxentwith if (is_group()){}
06:14.52Robojerkyeah
06:14.59Robojerkthey see the dropsdowns
06:15.04Anaxentthe thing is im not sure on how to have more than one group
06:15.23AnaxentI know we can set it to a certain group
06:15.40Anaxentis_group($g_id)
06:15.55Anaxentand $g_id can be defined from a form in the admin cp
06:16.05Anaxentbut id like to have more than one group
06:16.26Anaxentand if I can figure that out rosterdf can be enhanced even further
06:16.36Robojerk=)
06:29.22Robojerknigfht
06:29.26Robojerknight even =)
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13:53.56Ignatheoshi there, is there someone who can please advice me, were to find a premade forum, to put into webpage
13:55.41Ignatheosplease!
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15:42.51FoxyHi there all
15:55.46PleegWathi
15:57.27FoxyPleegWat, you run Dragonfly on your site?
15:57.32PleegWatno
15:57.38Foxykk
15:58.07PleegWatI've considered it at some point, but I don't really run a production site. Also, appearantly on windows DF only runs in the server root and that's unhandy
15:58.26Foxytrue :-D
15:59.02PleegWatYou seen the 1.8 alpha yet?
16:00.02Foxynope, talked to Zanix about the addon changes, looks like it should be really kewl
16:00.20PleegWatwell, the SVN is available to addon authors now
16:00.45Foxyyeah, haven't takent he time to check it out yet
16:01.15PleegWatic
16:01.58PleegWatWe're looking forward to any constructive criticism.
16:02.45FoxyI'll download it and install before I go to my meeting and check it out about 3 or 4 a little after noon here now
16:03.01PleegWatk
16:03.04Foxyany thing I should know about before I install?
16:03.10PleegWatnot really
16:03.32PleegWatAnax did a clean install last night, so the installer might be fine
16:03.37PleegWats/might/should/
16:03.39Foxykewl, should I test the update (if this is an option) or fresh
16:03.45PleegWatThere is an upgrade option
16:03.49Foxykk
16:04.02FoxyI'll duplicate my db then and test it out
16:04.02PleegWatThere is a ported altmonitor in the branches dir of the addon SVN
16:04.36PleegWatThere is also a port of the madeby addon in the SVN itself, but it doesn't use as many features
16:05.43PleegWatwell, I'm going off for dinner. Good luck.
16:05.55Foxyty, cya
16:06.20Foxywow this dragonfly cms is wicked fast compared to nuke
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16:35.31Anaxgood morning everyone
16:35.39FoxyHi there
16:39.11Anaxhi Foxy
16:39.17Anaxhow do you like DF so far
16:39.47Foxywow it's a very fast cms
16:40.12Foxyit blows nuke out of the water as speed goes
16:41.40Foxylooking at the DF Roster
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16:45.19Foxyman I need a static IP bad ol
16:45.22Foxylol*
16:54.09Anaxhaha
16:54.14Anaxyeah me as well for home
16:54.28Anaxmy dunamic don't change much though
16:54.49Anaxrosterdf is a very easy install as well
16:55.04Foxyyeah my web host has issues with me uploading and then opening many connections to my site... it just stops responding at times
16:55.20Anaxand once you get it working pls try to get gatherer working for us
16:55.29Anaxah lame
16:55.36Foxysame, I have a router that holds the IP till the router is reset or 30 days>
16:55.43Anaxwhat kind of access do you have to your server like the httpd.conf
16:55.53FoxyIs Gatherer not working in the DF Roster?
16:55.54Anaxthe hosted one
16:56.04Anaxno it is not yet
16:56.10Foxyhum...
16:56.15Anaxalot of it is due to the linking
16:56.27Anaxleo link system rewrites the urls to be .html urls
16:56.28FoxyI have full access to my host
16:56.34Anaxas you can see at wowroster.net
16:56.49Anaxthen you should up the max connections on your hosted box
16:56.56Foxyhave you tested with LEO off?
17:00.24AnaxI have not had the chance yet
17:00.47Foxykk, I might do that when I get back from my meeting today
17:31.50Anaxfoxy im pretty sure it will work with out leo as I know you are not using the getlink() functions
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17:56.44Guest811test
17:57.54Guest811Hello,  I am interested in advertising on www.wowroster.net, to what address should we contact?
17:59.14ds001PM Zanix I would guess.
17:59.20ds001Zanix is the boss man.
17:59.32Guest811ok
18:17.42PleegWathi
18:17.53Anaxunfortanatlly we do not like ads
18:18.00Anaxhey PleegWat hows it going
18:18.12PleegWatI'm not on static IP but if you pay enough attention you know weeks in advance if your IP is gonna change
18:18.37ds001Yar, I thought so.. but I didn't think it was my place to say that.. :)  so I just told him to contact Zanix.
18:19.08PleegWatWhy should we run ads? We've been meeting our donation target monthly since we started taking them
18:20.15ds001More money for jello shots?
18:28.24PleegWatThe only reason why we'd need more money is if/when we start setting up paid hosting
18:29.53PleegWatAnyway, you seen the 1.8 alpha yet?
18:30.23ds001Zanix showed me 1.8 a week ago.
18:30.57PleegWatYeah, but as an addon dev you've got SVN read access now. You can set up your own install.
18:31.43ds001I need to do that... this past week has been rough..  I have not had a chance to even update my projects..
18:32.20ds001and then C&C3...
18:32.30PleegWatyeah, been playing that too last week
18:32.36PleegWathaven't really got round to it this weekend
18:32.58ds001played that too much on sunday...
18:33.13ds001in fact.. i think thats all i did on sunday.. hah
18:33.40PleegWatheh
18:33.57PleegWatall I did on sunday was surfing and roster coding
18:34.29ds001I've been a fan C&C forever.. I wish I was better at the multiplayer aspect.
18:34.43ds001I always get my butt kicked..  most people are insane.
18:35.05PleegWatI'm no good at multiplayer either
18:35.26AnaxI need to also pick up that game
18:35.42Anaxthen we could do a multiplayer game between us all
18:35.47ds001You can Download it now...  pretty neat..
18:35.54ds0016gig DL :)
18:36.00Anaxpay and download?
18:36.03PleegWatyeah
18:36.07ds001yep
18:36.19PleegWatWasn't it 4.5G though?
18:36.23Anaxwhat about making backups for future hd wipes
18:36.39PleegWathaven't dug for the location of the temporary files yet
18:36.39ds001no manual or box tho..  but if that don't matter.. same price as box.
18:36.57PleegWatYou can get the manual from the ea link app after installing
18:37.03PleegWatnot before installing, weirdly
18:37.06ds001could be.. i got the box just because I like em'  makes me feel more geeky.
18:37.11ds001:)
18:41.33PleegWathm, ea's good at hiding files it seems
18:42.04PleegWator a gig, not sure what size it defaults to
18:45.20PleegWatOK, I need length, not size...
18:46.38PleegWatls * -force -recurse | where -filterscript { $_.length -gt 100mb }
18:46.41PleegWatshould not give too many hits
18:47.56PleegWatDirectory: Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\FileSystem::C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\EA\EALink\cache\{ C25D77E9F4E07DB7F5C28E5A0E5D303C }\cnc3_base
18:47.58PleegWatbingo
18:49.11FoxyI'll take the ad money to pay my student loans hehe
18:49.54PleegWatDid actually look there initially, but for my own account, not All Users
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21:50.20Anaxso whats everyone upto
21:50.46Anaxit is starting to get quiet here at work well atleast the madness has ended
21:51.28PleegWatAbout to go to bed
21:51.36PleegWatwaiting for the bathroom to be vacant so I can brush my teeth
22:02.42Anaxah good deal
22:03.12Anaxim about to install a rar lib to my server so I can pack/upack rar files
22:14.15Anaxthis pic rocks
22:14.17Anaxhttp://www.gnu.org/graphics/badvista-trash.png
22:53.20Anaxok as im looking at modifying the application module I have also started looking into how DF allows the admin to create custom user fields
22:53.29Anaxhttp://wowroster.net/pastebin/index.php?show=116 line 43-66
22:57.59Anaxso im thinking of allowing the admins to build there own custom forum for there own application and for the most part DF already does this by default but does not have the select option

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