IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070418

00:00.48AdysKirk, ''The ## Interface: number in AddOn .toc files is now ## Interface: 20100'''. isnt an undocumentated change is it?
00:00.55KirkburnIs it documented?
00:01.06Adysumm they always documente it no?
00:01.12Adysdocumentate..
00:01.20KirkburnNope, not normally
00:14.28KirkburnMmmm, spaghetti
00:20.31Kirkburn|VistaBibi`ouF, wow, so there's more Northrend stuff than I realised
00:20.49Bibi`ouFactually, not that much
00:20.53Bibi`ouFjust a sword and a shield
00:20.58zeegWhat's with the meowiki? :P
00:21.04Kirkburn|VistaMore than 3 plants :)
00:21.13Kirkburn|Vista~emulate Kirkburn
00:21.20infobotYes, Microsoft! Harder!
00:21.20Bibi`ouFyes i suppose
00:21.20Bibi`ouF^^
00:21.27Kirkburn|VistaUm, not that one infobot
00:21.29Kirkburn|Vista~emulate Kirkburn
00:21.31infobotI hear he's very fond of kittens. Buy him one.
00:21.33Bibi`ouFbut tbh, i'm not sure these are northrend loots
00:21.40Kirkburn|Vista^ zeeg
00:21.50Bibi`ouFthey're named northrend, but they'll probably drop outside of northrend
00:21.55Kirkburn|VistaTrue
00:22.10Bibi`ouFthey already have the iventory icons ready for them
00:22.37Kirkburn|VistaThe design is quite northrendy though
00:22.43Kirkburn|VistaThe shield, at least
00:22.55zeegah
00:23.04Kirkburn|VistaIt's a shield to keep warm in =)
00:23.25Kirkburn|Vistazeeg, not an obsession or anything, obviously
00:23.35zeegobviously :D
00:23.43Kirkburn|VistaI found out I'm rather more allergic to cats than I realised on friday
00:24.16ZiconKitty! ^^
00:24.17Kirkburn|VistaGot lightly scratched by one and came up with itchy bumps :/
00:24.27zeegouch
00:24.28Kirkburn|VistaHah, if only
00:24.49Kirkburn|VistaSo when I do get one, gonna have to be on anti-allergy stuff all the time
00:24.53Kirkburn|VistaIt'd be worth it though
00:24.59zeeghaha
00:26.18Kirkburn|VistaBibi`ouF, the multiple skins would be odd for a new drop though
00:26.33Bibi`ouFmultiple skins is the new toy of Blizzard
00:27.11Kirkburn|Vistaheh
00:27.12Bibi`ouFhighest probability is the use of these items in some kind of Northrend outpost for an event or a new quest
00:27.23Bibi`ouFmaybe to equip the guards here
00:27.44Kirkburn|VistaWhat race's style would you say the shield is?
00:27.47Kirkburn|VistaDwarven?
00:28.12Kirkburn|VistaOoh, I think I spy ram horns?
00:28.34Kirkburn|VistaThe first outpost on the Howling Fjord is ..... dwarven
00:28.42Bibi`ouFlook like orc to me
00:28.53*** join/#wowwiki Trae (n=october@ip24-252-207-46.mc.at.cox.net)
00:29.14Bibi`ouFsmall spikes below the horns, the big arc on the top of the shield (like the horde warrior pvp set)
00:29.50Bibi`ouFand tauren fur on the top.
00:29.54Kirkburn|VistaYeah, I can see high-end orcishness in it
00:30.05Kirkburn|VistaEven dwarves have to keep warm :P
00:30.40Kirkburn|VistaThe sword is kinda Scourgey, lots of them in Northrend
00:31.05Kirkburn|VistaBut then, orc weapons can be like that too
00:31.39Kirkburn|VistaValgarde will be the first point on Northrend for most people
00:32.00Kirkburn|Vista(unless they much has changed since the RPG book was written)
00:32.11Kirkburn|Vista5,000 person town
00:32.14Bibi`ouFtrying to find something else in the files
00:32.24Bibi`ouFbut don't have much luck
00:32.28Bibi`ouFneed the new patch §
00:33.55*** join/#wowwiki Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)
00:33.55*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ
00:33.55Kirkburn|VistaIf the stuff disappears before 2.1's release, that tells us something ;)
00:33.56Bibi`ouFgot a backup of my wowtest :p
00:33.56Kirkburn|VistaTotal population of the Howling Fjord is (was 2-3 years ago) 11,000
00:34.10Kirkburn|Vista60% human, 30% Ironforge dwarf, 5% Drakkari troll, 5% furbolg
00:34.40Kirkburn|VistaOh and a high-elf rules Valguard :)
00:35.31Kirkburn|VistaOh and murlocs abound
00:35.38Bibi`ouFMurlocs ! Murlocs
00:36.00Kirkburn|VistaIn fact, the entire territory is Alliance pretty much, the Horde may have to start in another zone
00:36.05Bibi`ouFhttp://www.pinktoque.com/index.php?p=murloc.php
00:36.06Bibi`ouFMurlocs
00:36.53Kirkburn|VistaFrostmourne is from the area!
00:37.16Kirkburn|VistaSorry, I meant:
00:37.19Kirkburn|Vista"kelmuuwrchgluumulmluil llwr kelmuugl chrwil mmlmilmm!"
00:37.43Bibi`ouFhmmmmm ... i thought it was written chrwilil
00:37.46Bibi`ouFnot chrwil.
00:38.32Kirkburn|VistaI do wonder, how would they miss seven doodads
00:38.54Kirkburn|VistaI know it's a conspiracy theory, but it just sounds too 'planned'
00:39.43Kirkburn|VistaOh, are the warlock T6 wings functional?
00:39.50Bibi`ouFyes
00:40.14Kirkburn|VistaHow so?
00:40.36*** join/#wowwiki kindergip (n=one@h24-207-52-155.dlt.dccnet.com)
00:41.24Bibi`ouFwell as far as i know, the animation is triggered when you put the helm on your head
00:41.34Bibi`ouFbut i'm not sure of how it works after that
00:41.47Kirkburn|VistaWhen you jump :P
00:41.50ShadowedThats it, you equip it and the animation plays but never again
00:41.55Kirkburn|Vistaaww
00:42.14Kirkburn|VistaThe wings are pretty huge, so it would be kinda of annoying in a raid
00:44.30Bibi`ouFyeah ... or in Shattrath 1 year after the release of the Black Temple
00:45.13Kirkburn|Vistalol
00:45.30*** join/#wowwiki Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)
00:45.30*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ
00:46.15Bibi`ouFoh
00:46.23Bibi`ouFI just found a nice idea of contest for my site
00:46.53Kirkburn|VistaOooooh! "When a chest is opened all the items appear in the need/greed fashion like trash drops."
00:47.00Kirkburn|VistaThat's new, right?
00:47.10Tekkubyatta!
00:47.18Kirkburn|VistaNo more chest ninja-ing :)
00:47.21Bibi`ouFhmmmmm, i'm not sure
00:47.27Bibi`ouFactually, yes it's new
00:47.29Tekkubdid they add "the chest despawns after x even if all items are not taken out
00:47.44Kirkburn|VistaI'm looking at the undocumented notes thread atm
00:47.49Tekkubat least, in the wild not instance
00:49.03Adysseriously kirk?
00:49.04Adyslol
00:49.04Adyswow
00:49.38*** join/#wowwiki Gryphen (n=masked@c-76-104-130-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
00:49.38*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Gryphen] by ChanServ
00:49.40Bibi`ouFsometimes i really impress myself.
00:49.47Bibi`ouFi've been working on my tier 5 screenshots for the last two hours
00:50.01Bibi`ouFi managed to copy and paste hmm .... 2 sets.
00:50.09Kirkburn|Vista...
00:51.07Bibi`ouFI spent the last 4 days working on the patch, lazyness is great sometimes !
00:52.37Adysi could stay up longer but im tired and if i go to bed ill fall asleep
00:52.40Adysso nn peeps
00:53.17Kirkburn|VistaUpdated some stuff on http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.1.0_%28Release_Notes%29
00:54.03Bibi`ouFi tried to copy a part of the netherwing page for my site
00:54.15Bibi`ouFtook me 5 minutes to figure out it would be easier to link the site.
00:54.22Bibi`ouFless visible tho :/
00:54.35Bibi`ouFwe need wowwiki banners, flash ones, with naked elves
00:55.56Kirkburn|VistaI saw the giant wowwiki link earlier :P
00:57.28Kirkburn|VistaHey, the wiki has become really fast, I like it :D
00:57.56Bibi`ouFyeah i had a giant wowwiki link on the netherwing post because it was linked on wow-szene.de and didn't want to leave it too empty :p
00:59.41Tekkubyea kirky, we need to guilt up vlad more often
01:06.26Kirkburn|Vistalol
01:06.31Kirkburn|VistaHmm, http://www.wowwiki.com/Mount needs work
01:06.40Kirkburn|Vista(and will need a 2.1 update at the end soon)
01:06.54Kirkburn|VistaIf someone is bored ...
01:07.07*** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-29-116.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr)
01:07.14Kirkburn|Vista(tables are bleh)
01:07.48*** join/#wowwiki kindergipA1 (n=one@h24-207-52-155.dlt.dccnet.com)
01:13.13Kirkburn|VistaJebus, the site is speedy atm
01:13.51*** part/#wowwiki kindergipA1 (n=one@h24-207-52-155.dlt.dccnet.com)
01:14.09*** join/#wowwiki kindergipA1 (n=one@h24-207-52-155.dlt.dccnet.com)
01:15.32Kirkburn|VistaHey, wow I just found how to upload screenshots from online
01:15.44Kirkburn|VistaWithout saving them to my HD first
01:17.08Bibi`ouFbtw
01:17.19Bibi`ouFanyone know if Anzu dropped a mount already ?
01:17.24Bibi`ouF(final boss of the epic flight form quest)
01:19.53Kirkburn|VistaNope
01:19.57Kirkburn|Vista(dunno)
01:21.29Bibi`ouFomfg
01:21.29Kirkburn|VistaSince I just mentioned it, to upload an image straight from a website, paste the direct image link into the file open prompt that appears when you click "Browse"
01:21.33Bibi`ouFPTRs are already up
01:21.47Bibi`ouFand i missed it, fuck fuck , and fuck.
01:25.02Bibi`ouFoh, Kirkburn is gonna be happy
01:25.06Bibi`ouFnew northrend sword it seems
01:25.13Kirkburn|VistaOooharrr?
01:25.28Kirkburn|VistaUgh, I should just kill my laptop's IRC
01:25.59Bagginswwfinaly got a chance to look at ironforge alpha
01:26.21Bibi`ouFironforge alpha ?
01:26.23Kirkburn|VistaBagginsww, you never said if you wanted that earring
01:26.33BagginswwI wonder if the refrences in the short story to "levels" in ironforge is in a short story Alliance Player's Guide
01:26.46Bagginswwwas in refrence/homage to the alpha version.
01:26.49Bagginswwearring?
01:27.13Kirkburn|Vista+1% critical strike
01:27.26Bagginswwhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=91ZKb61xxX0
01:27.32Kirkburn|VistaNorthrend sword, geief
01:27.48Kirkburn|Vista*gief
01:28.56Bagginswwhmm, I've been away writing a research paper most of today
01:28.56Kirkburn|VistaDo you want a free +1% critical hit bonus ear-ring for your Hobbit
01:28.56Kirkburn|VistaGuiding Star Earring :)
01:28.56Bagginswwhmm, sure
01:28.56Bagginswwyou playing the game now?
01:29.16Kirkburn|VistaNope, it's an offer in my magazine :)
01:29.16Bagginswwooh
01:29.24Bagginswwhow does it work?
01:29.47Kirkburn|VistaGot a code on my DVD case
01:29.52Bagginswwcool
01:30.13Kirkburn|VistaGo to COG
01:30.31Kirkburn|VistaLook for the option to "Enter bonus item code"
01:30.38Bagginswwcog?
01:31.03Kirkburn|VistaThe subscription details pages
01:31.12Bagginswwoh ok going now
01:31.16Kirkburn|Vistacogaccounts.codemasters.com it says
01:31.45Kirkburn|VistaBtw, this'll mean you become my bitch :P
01:31.45Bagginswwhmm, this might be a problem, my service is through US company
01:31.51BagginswwMidway :p
01:31.59BagginswwMidway/Turbine
01:32.04Kirkburn|VistaBargh
01:32.06Bagginswwbut i'll check :p
01:32.45Kirkburn|VistaSo many nVidia drivers to choose from today
01:33.02Kirkburn|Vista158.16, 158.19 and 165.01
01:33.10Kirkburn|VistaAnd 158.18 I think
01:33.27Kirkburn|VistaWeird thing is, the last release was 101.70
01:33.41Kirkburn|VistaThat's about 3-4 years difference
01:34.23Bagginswwyep no option for bonus item in US login :(
01:34.29Kirkburn|Vistaaww, noo
01:34.45Kirkburn|VistaNot even on the subscription details pages?
01:34.54Kirkburn|VistaNowhere!?
01:35.26BagginswwOnly the "activate additional product key" option
01:35.35Kirkburn|VistaButtocks
01:35.52Kirkburn|VistaHo hum, find me a Brit playing Lotro
01:36.10BagginswwWell, you get all those other bonuses over there too, lik Lurky, etc
01:36.20BagginswwI feel so left out :( :p
01:36.51Kirkburn|Vistalol
01:38.42Bagginswwso ya about 7 pages into my research paper + 8 pages of interview notes, etc :p only half done :p
01:38.43Kirkburn|VistaArgh, 165.01 or 158.18, can't decide. Maybe I'll just not bother until WU prompts me
01:38.55Kirkburn|VistaAwesome
01:39.17Kirkburn|VistaMy research paper on city sustainability is now 45 pages long, but that's two people's work
01:39.19*** join/#wowwiki kindergip (n=one@h24-207-52-155.dlt.dccnet.com)
01:39.32Kirkburn|VistaCoincidentally, the limit is .... 45 pages
01:39.36Bagginswwheh heh
01:39.44Kirkburn|VistaOh, and your text is 11pt, and 12pt is required :/
01:39.46BagginswwI'm glad I don't have to write one that long at this time :p
01:39.47Kirkburn|Vista8Our
01:39.49Kirkburn|Vista*our
01:40.12BagginswwLOL
01:40.29Kirkburn|VistaBad keyboard! Don't do it again!
01:42.21Kirkburn|VistaY'know, some people think I have a life outside of this channel. God knows who, I don't bother looking.
01:42.31Bagginswwsigh I better tell my guild its best I don't raid tonight... so I can work on reportand get it over with :p
01:43.03BagginswwI hate mirc to be honest... I'm only here because of this channel :p
01:43.15Bagginswwotherwise I wouldn't bother with it LOL
01:43.19Kirkburn|VistaXChat ftw
01:43.25Bagginswwusing xchat
01:43.35Kirkburn|VistaThen don't call it mIRC :P
01:43.40BagginswwI mean I just don't like mirc/xchat type things
01:43.44Kirkburn|VistaThis is just IRC :)
01:43.50Bagginswwok, IRC
01:43.53Kirkburn|VistaWell, I'm glad you stay
01:44.03Kirkburn|VistaGet that bloody Ragestorm on here
01:44.06BagginswwLOL
01:44.17Kirkburn|Vista(I never noticed that was Stormrage backwards)
01:44.27Kirkburn|VistaAnd Varg
01:45.37Bagginswwonly 3 more months I have to put hte moratorium
01:45.37Bagginsww<PROTECTED>
01:45.37*** join/#wowwiki Skyfire (n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
01:45.54Skyfireso is everyone actually playing wow atm? lol.
01:45.56Bagginswwfull time university in hawaii heh heh
01:46.25BagginswwI'm not taking all my warcraft books with me :p
01:46.35Bagginswwso I'll be at a loss for lore so to speak :p
01:46.45Skyfireso expand out of the lore domain ;p
01:47.11Bagginswweh, without warcraft lore, I'll have to go into real world lore ;)
01:47.28Skyfireeh?
01:47.29Bagginswwanycase I don't want to be too distracted
01:47.50Bagginswwreal world lore = my anthropological studies
01:47.58Skyfireah
01:48.06Kirkburn|VistaBagginsww, did I read you right when you said you hadn't read DotD
01:48.19BagginswwI've skimmed it, haven't read it straight through
01:48.36Bagginswwto be honest his style is kind of hard to get into :p
01:48.36Skyfirepft
01:48.47Skyfireyou can read the rpgs... but not a real book. shame.
01:48.57BagginswwI can read encyclopedias :)
01:49.11BagginswwRPG reads more like an encyclipedia :p
01:49.15Kirkburn|VistaBloody nora!
01:49.35BagginswwReally enjoy Golden's style though
01:50.04Skyfireloc/roth, eh
01:50.07Bagginswwworst thing that's been hurting my novel reading is keeping up with class reading :p
01:50.13Bibi`ouFoh.
01:50.14Skyfireheh
01:50.14Bibi`ouFok.
01:50.19Bibi`ouFI guess they're adding northrend items.
01:50.23Bagginswwhmm
01:50.37*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
01:50.37*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ
01:50.39BagginswwI haven't read LoC either
01:50.52Bagginswwonly ROTH
01:50.57NoraBattyUseless!
01:51.03*** join/#wowwiki Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)
01:51.03*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ
01:51.05Skyfiretruth
01:51.12Skyfireit is pretty bad if you haven't read loc
01:51.12NoraBattyTekkub, Bagginsww is useless
01:51.32Bagginswwgenerally I joined Wowwiki because people berated the RPG, and I felt I needed to bring it to more people :)
01:51.41Skyfireew.
01:51.45Bagginswwyou know that takes alot of work bieng a one man evangilist :p
01:51.53NoraBattyI'll have you know I'm television's most famous broom-wielding siren
01:51.57BagginswwLOL
01:52.01Tekkubok
01:53.56NoraBattyMy characteristics include wrinkled stockings, curlers, and a domineering attitude towards my husband
01:53.56Skyfireah
01:53.56Skyfireand this husband would be?
01:53.57NoraBattyWally
01:54.11NoraBattyI am often amorously pursued by Compo
01:56.15Skyfireok, baggins, question
01:56.28Skyfirewhat do you think about frostbite on dim. returns?
01:57.03NoraBattyI think they should be attacked with brooms
01:57.18Bagginswwhmm, no idea.
01:57.41BagginswwI'm fire mage because the guild made me :p
01:57.43Skyfirelol
01:57.47Skyfireyou've never been frost?
01:57.47NoraBattyit's rude to stare
01:58.01BagginswwI was frost last week :p
01:58.43Skyfirelol!
01:58.43Bagginswwbut ya, I haven't seen how bad the diminishing returns is
01:58.43Skyfireso why is frostbite going on dim returns when mace spec (as well as others... impact?) were taking off?
01:58.43Skyfiretaken*
01:59.09Bagginswwweird
01:59.22Skyfireoh wait
01:59.23Bagginswwactually considernig frostbite was rare anyways... how is diminishign returns going to affect it?
01:59.26Skyfirenvm
01:59.46Skyfiremace spec was taken off shared drs with other stuns
01:59.55Skyfireand no, it wasn't that rare :/
02:00.20Skyfirethat's 1/6 (7) times you get a proc
02:00.20Bagginswwfor me it procced 1 out of 10 frostbolts
02:00.33Skyfirethen you were either a) bugged or b) not remembering correcty
02:00.34Skyfire;P
02:00.44Skyfires/correcty/correctly
02:00.50Skyfireoi
02:00.52Skyfirelern2/
02:01.20*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn|Vista (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
02:01.20*** join/#wowwiki Mnky (n=Monkey@CPE-72-133-194-241.wi.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
02:01.20*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn|Vista] by irc.freenode.net
02:01.46Skyfirehmm
02:02.18Skyfireugh
02:02.22Skyfirewhere is the test realm forum?
02:03.18Bibi`ouFKirkburn|Vista
02:03.23Bibi`ouFCRY LITTLE GIRL ! CRY ! http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=119.0
02:04.50Skyfirehmm
02:05.03Skyfireso long as frostbite isn't on shared with fn/freeze, its cool
02:05.34*** join/#wowwiki anticore (i=anticore@216-189-179-075-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net)
02:06.09anticoreAnyone know if theres a way to see if a char is online, without loading the game?
02:06.26Tekkubther isn't
02:06.28NoraBattyBibi`ouF, wow, that's cooools
02:06.29Skyfirei don't think you can do that
02:06.30NoraBatty*d
02:06.41anticore:/
02:07.28Skyfirehuh
02:07.30Gryphenxfire heh
02:07.36Skyfireexternal links to wowwiki work... wtf?
02:08.06Skyfiregryphen
02:08.13anticoregryphen- does the other party need to be registered with xfire also?
02:08.20Gryphenyes
02:08.22Skyfirenvm*
02:08.26anticore:/
02:08.33*** join/#wowwiki rophy (n=Miranda@csw124.cs.nthu.edu.tw)
02:08.41*** join/#wowwiki kindergip (n=one@h24-207-52-155.dlt.dccnet.com)
02:08.49Skyfire<3 you vlad_
02:09.47Skyfirewiki is up
02:11.15Skyfire<- scores first edit
02:11.32Grypheno.O
02:12.25anticorewhats the difference between a raid dungeon and a raid encounter?
02:12.32Skyfireoh
02:12.34Skyfireoh
02:12.36Skyfirelol
02:12.45Skyfirenvm me
02:14.07Skyfireuh
02:14.18Grypheno.O
02:15.29NoraBattyYou got me all excited
02:17.02Skyfirelol gryph
02:18.31SkyfireA "projection" of Illidan Stormrage?
02:22.43Bagginswwfigures I'll try to read DotD this summer...
02:22.47Bagginswwwell finish it
02:22.54BagginswwI'm 1/3 into it already
02:23.09Bagginswwsans skimming through it for quotes for wowwiki :p
02:23.31BagginswwIf I counted skimming past the 1/3 point, I'd have perhaps 2/3 read
02:24.40Bagginswwbut you know... How often I read partway through a book and then get distracted with other things in life :p
02:25.06BagginswwI still haven't finished the first splinter cell book for that reason :p
02:25.46Skyfirelol gryph
02:25.53Gryphenwtf with this dude
02:26.23Bagginswwwho?\
02:26.53Skyfirehave a look at rc
02:27.47Cairennsee?
02:29.48Kirkburn|VistaAah, crazy lady
02:30.02Cairenn;)
02:30.03Kirkburn|VistaI bet she's got lots of cats
02:30.29Cairenn2
02:30.51Kirkburn|VistaTwo more than me :(
02:31.42Gryphen+1 for me
02:31.48Gryphencat++
02:32.17Kirkburn|VistaSounds like you just looted a [Cat]
02:32.21Cairennlol
02:32.46Kirkburn|VistaCan I trade you this selection of [Toothpicks]?
02:33.17Kirkburn|VistaThe images on the left are ugly ... but only until someone makes a BT template
02:34.05Skyfireb...t... template?
02:34.33Kirkburn|VistaBritish Telecom, you fool
02:34.52GryphenBritish...Telecom...?
02:34.53Kirkburn|VistaGryphen, some people just don't understand warnings do they
02:34.54Skyfireexcuse me for not being english.
02:35.00Skyfire:/
02:35.00Gryphenhehe yah
02:35.06Gryphenhe does now :D
02:35.09Kirkburn|VistaBlack Temple
02:35.16Kirkburn|VistaLook at the even more recent changes
02:37.49Skyfireis there a scope other than biznicks that adds +ranged hit?
02:38.33Skyfireguess that's a no/.
02:41.28*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
02:41.28*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ
02:47.52Skyfireargh
02:47.59Skyfirewhere's skosiris when you have a suggestion for him?
02:57.51Bibi`ouFKirkburn|Vista : http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/bt/illidanshields.jpg
03:03.47Skyfirei think, thats what i'm going to do...
03:03.51Skyfire:o
03:04.31Skyfire... nnoooo more wildhammer clan?
03:04.32Skyfire:(
03:04.49Skyfirerevantusk is gone too
03:05.40*** join/#wowwiki kindergip (n=one@h24-207-52-155.dlt.dccnet.com)
03:12.29Bagginswwrevantuaks was gone for a while
03:12.38Bagginswwthey are finally removing wildhammer?
03:13.03Skyfirethey removed it in 2.0.3... or so said the reputatino page
03:13.12Skyfirewhich means, tbh
03:13.15Skyfiretbc*
03:14.50Bagginswwyou mean its gone already I never noticed?
03:15.10Bagginswwdid anyone copy down the lore text that used to be attacked to it and reventusk? :p
03:15.10Skyfirethat's what http://www.wowwiki.com/Reputation says
03:15.54Bagginswwwhat patch are we on currently? I honesn't haven't kept track :p
03:16.00Bibi`ouFBagginsww : they removed the wildhammer faction when BC came out
03:16.00Bagginsww*honestly
03:16.06BagginswwI see
03:16.09Skyfirealmost 2.1.0
03:16.10Skyfire:x
03:16.28Bibi`ouFotherwise you could have bought cheaper flying mount as an ally because the wildhammers are the one selling them
03:16.28Skyfirehttp://www.wowwiki.com/2.0.3#Misc
03:16.36Bagginswwahh I see
03:16.43Skyfire"Wildhammer faction removed."
03:16.53Bagginswwinteresting its not liek we needed them
03:17.01Bagginswwthat faction I mean
03:17.27Bagginswwonly thing it helped with pre-TBC was slightly cheaper flightpath :p
03:18.48BagginswwYou know though pre-TBC, I kept track of patches, because they seemed to always have some really big addition. But most of the TBC patches have just been tweaks her or there. Except the upcoming 2.1.0
03:18.56Skyfireessentially
03:19.10Skyfirebliz is just making sure everything in bc ran smoothly before adding the big stuff
03:19.17Bagginswwheh heh
03:19.28Bibi`ouFhave fun keeping track of changes in the 2.1.0 patch !
03:19.31BagginswwAlthough practically nothing is known about the clan besides this, and some even belived that the clan's name was simply a mistake, and that the intended reference was to either the [[Twilight's Hammer Clan]] or the [[Burning Blade Clan]], one of the [[World of Warcraft]] [[Realms]] is named Lightning's Blade, implying that the clan did exist.
03:19.37Bagginswwhorrible run on run run for your lives
03:19.55Skyfirethat wasn't too bad yourself
03:19.57Skyfire;P
03:21.04BagginswwI'm editing that stupid run on... Wants to kill theron the just...
03:21.34Skyfiretheron could use a nice beating, imio
03:21.37Skyfireimo*
03:21.47Skyfires/imio/imo/
03:22.46BagginswwLOL
03:22.47Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Lightning%27s_Blade_Clan
03:23.11Bagginswwhmm, thinks of using the small size speculation warning...
03:23.24Bagginswwbig orange questionmark looks bad there
03:25.10Bagginswwalright someone who was editing black temple edited out the links to black citadel, and black temple and citadel articles... :p
03:25.19Bagginswwoh I see where they moved it
03:25.31Bagginswwok no problem
03:25.38*** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-29-116.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr)
03:27.47Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Lightning%27s_Blade_Clan
03:27.54Bagginswwalright that's better, IMO
03:28.17Bagginswwand why do we have two types of speculatoin warnings?
03:35.58Kirkburn|VistaBagginsww, it should have the normal one
03:36.05Kirkburn|Vista{{speculation}}
03:36.07Bagginswwok
03:36.19Bagginswwthough does that icon have to be so big?
03:36.43Kirkburn|VistaWhere did you find that one?
03:37.12BagginswwI see it floating around, in differnet places...
03:37.23Bagginswwcan't think of any specific one at the moment
03:37.27Kirkburn|VistaIf you see it, change it :)
03:37.35Kirkburn|VistaGiant ? is cool :P
03:38.02Bagginswwahh I kind of like some of the "smaller" warning templates, like we use for BC and stuff.
03:38.22Bagginsww{{i-note||Speculation}}
03:38.30Bagginswwyou can look up the history on that.
03:39.34BagginswwI'notes are something ZEal made?
03:41.47Bagginswwactually I'm pretty sure he made it, first place I saw it used, was an article he created.
03:42.03Kirkburn|VistaQuite likely
03:42.40*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
03:42.40*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ
03:42.40Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:I-note
03:43.06Kirkburn|afkI'm off to bed
03:44.11*** join/#wowwiki Hobinheim (n=Hobinhei@207-38-224-165.c3-0.43d-ubr9.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com)
03:51.06Skyfirehuh
03:51.16Skyfirebtw, inote is an evil template
03:51.44Skyfire'''Note:''' works very well, or the information can be moved to a == Notes == section
04:01.36*** mode/#wowwiki [-b *!*@modemcable244.155-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] by Tekkub
04:02.33*** join/#wowwiki Skosiris (n=sdgdsg@modemcable244.155-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
04:02.33*** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ
04:08.43*** join/#wowwiki booz (n=Hobinhei@207-38-224-165.c3-0.43d-ubr9.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com)
04:09.12*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Hobinheim] by ChanServ
04:10.29Skyfiremm....
04:12.10Skyfireah yes, skosiris
04:12.14Hobinheim|sleepyslowiki.com
04:12.18Skyfiretruth
04:12.23Hobinheim|sleepycan't even preview an edit
04:12.24Skyfiresomeone edited a template i bet ;(
04:12.32Hobinheim|sleepylady vashj is hacking the wiki
04:12.37Skyfirewtb skosiris sssssssss
04:14.36Skyfireah yes
04:14.40Skyfirethat would be my fault i think
04:17.57Skyfirewell, there's another broken template page
04:18.00Skyfirelooooool
04:18.08Skyfiredon't edit Template:Questbox if possible
04:18.14SkyfireI think that is what is killing the wiki
04:21.38Skyfireit might be wise to lock that template...
04:21.39Skyfire:/
04:21.54*** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-29-116.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr)
04:24.50Skyfirehi hi sko!
04:24.54Skyfirequestion for ya
04:24.57Skosirisyes?
04:25.47Skyfirewould it be possible to create a filter that would just list the items in a list? no tableation
04:25.50Skyfireor something?
04:26.10Skyfirei'd like to be able to copy paste lists of items without having to delete all the extra stuff
04:26.40Skyfirehobinheim, you here still?
04:28.04Skosirisdo you need only the item names?
04:29.34Skyfireyeah
04:30.08Skyfire>_>
04:31.00Skosirisif you use Firefox, you can hold down control and click to select the cells you want
04:31.11Skosirise.g.
04:31.15SkosirisMartin ThunderThe Twin Blades of AzzinothWarglaive of Azzinoth (Left)Warglaive of Azzinoth (Right)Andonisus, Reaper of SoulsAshbringer
04:31.20Skyfireah
04:31.30Skosirisit adds a tab character between each, which you can replace to a newline character
04:31.59Skyfirethat's a nice tip :)
04:31.59SkyfireAlanna's EmbraceAncient Spellcloak of the HighborneAngelista's GraspAnger-Spark GlovesArcanist BeltArcanist BindingsArcanist Boots
04:32.15Skosiristhis works with any html table :)
04:33.29Skyfirezomg 2500 edits
04:36.42Skyfirehuh
04:36.56*** join/#wowwiki Psyker7 (n=Psyker7@203.28.246.152)
04:37.35Psyker7is there an escape character in templates? i want it to put a pipe character on the page calling it....
04:38.29Skyfirewait for kirkburn to come back
04:40.14Psyker7hrm.... backslash doesn't work... can't find any docu on mediawiki or on wowwiki :(
04:40.39Skosirishmm
04:41.01Skosiristry 2 pipes in a row
04:41.02Skosiris||
04:41.41Psyker7just tried that... doesn't work
04:41.49Psyker7'|' doesn't work either....
04:43.16Skosirismaybe there's an alternative solution
04:43.29Skosiriswhy do you need to use a pipe?
04:43.33Skyfireyou know when somebody has gone off the deep end: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96959750&sid=1
04:44.02Psyker7i'm trying to make a template that will make armory links for guild names....
04:44.22Psyker7if the guild names have spaces it breaks the link at the space, so you need the pipe so the wiki knows when the link is supposed to end
04:44.59Skosirislol @ Legolaise
04:45.02Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Psyker7/Sandbox2
04:45.03Skosiristhat's such an awful name
04:45.07Skosirisit sounds like mayonnaise
04:45.12Skyfirelern2legolas
04:45.13Skyfirelol
04:45.19Skyfirelegolas the mayonnaise!
04:45.21Skyfire:D
04:45.34Psyker7[http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/guild-info.xml?r=Uther&n=Warriors of Wollongong | Warriors of Wollongong]
04:45.47Psyker7is what it should be.... template doesn't let me pass the pipe =(
04:46.06Skyfireuh...
04:46.16*** join/#wowwiki clad|work (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-74-71-116-245.twcny.res.rr.com)
04:46.32Psyker7heh.... that is amusing....
04:48.12Karrion<PROTECTED>
04:48.58Psyker7that works... but i don't want to have to pass the guild name to the template twice, formatted differently
04:49.28Psyker7{{:User:Psyker7/Sandbox|Sevina|Alliance|Uther|Human_Female|Mage|70|Warriors of Wollongong|[[Knight-Captain]]}}
04:49.34Karrionah, I see what you mean
04:49.35Psyker7is what it is atm... i don't want to have to go
04:49.52Psyker7{{:User:Psyker7/Sandbox|Sevina|Alliance|Uther|Human_Female|Mage|70|Warriors of Wollongong|Warriors+of+Wollongong|[[Knight-Captain]]}} =(
04:49.52Skyfireuh,,, psyker
04:50.06Skyfireeh, nvm
04:50.08Skyfirei r idiot
04:50.13Psyker7^.^
04:50.34Psyker7at least the armory link works fine for character names as they never have spaces =)
04:50.55Skyfireyet...
04:51.48Psyker7;)
04:52.05Psyker7they day they let us have spaces is the day we get to rename our characters.... that would be cool.... lol
04:53.05Psyker7oh well.. i'll live
04:53.24SkyfireSkyfire Frarcan
04:53.27Skyfire:o
04:53.36Psyker7would be cool for server pages as well if i could get it figured out... auto link to armory =)
04:53.38SkyfireFrorcan
04:53.42Skyfirebetter
04:53.56Psyker7heh
04:53.58SkyfireFrorcane?
04:54.00Skyfirehmm
04:54.30SkyfireArcro
04:54.33KarrionPsyker7: I'm looking to see if I can find a template of some kind that can do a string replace ' ' to '+'...
04:54.35SkyfireSkyfire Arcro
04:55.11Psyker7yeah, i tried to find a url formatting template... no luck
04:55.25Psyker7it shoudl actually be %20 instead of '+'
04:55.51Skyfireno...
04:55.57Skyfireoh boy
04:56.01Skyfirethis... again.
04:56.02Skyfirelol
04:56.22Karrionhehe I remember that discussion
04:56.31Psyker7oh? lol
04:56.38Psyker7i don't believe i was there :)
04:56.56Skyfiregood thing
04:56.57Skyfirelol
04:57.09Skyfirei wish we could browse the armory :(
04:57.17Skyfireinstead of straight searching...
04:57.22Skyfirelike, browsing guilds by server
04:57.29Psyker7aah yes, it should be +'s =)
04:57.40Skyfire-_-
04:57.51*** join/#wowwiki JunkHead-Work (n=none@static-65-73-21-211.br1.atm.al.frontiernet.net)
04:58.16Karrionlong story short, after the '?', + and %20 are identical, before the '?' they may or may not be depending on the software
04:58.53Psyker7hrm.... i don't profess to be an expert on urls :P
04:59.27Psyker7would be easier if there was just an escape in the template, the browser would probally use %20's
05:02.11Skyfirehuh... feedback could be researched in wc3 for arcane towers and?...
05:02.43Skyfirewhat is the name of that unit
05:02.44Skyfiregrrr
05:02.58Skyfirespell steal is all i'm coming up with :(
05:03.08Skyfiresorceress, priest, and?...
05:08.05KarrionPsyker7: doesn't look like it's possible without ParserFunctions (and I'm not excatly sure how even then)
05:09.11Psyker7with parserfunctions you could do a search replace ont he spaces couldn't you?
05:14.30DuTempeteSkyfire!
05:16.08*** join/#wowwiki Zicon (i=zicon@rosetta.nwo.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
05:18.31Skyfireyo yo
05:18.38Skyfireque quieres?
05:18.48Skyfiredutempete
05:18.57vlad_ugh
05:19.02vlad_mw templates make Rustak cry
05:19.05DuTempeteno much, just saying hi ;)
05:19.07vlad_bring on the ParserFunctions :p
05:19.22DuTempetemw, vlad?
05:19.33Karrionactually we need StringFunctions rather that ParserFunctions -- StringFunctions gives us #urlencode!
05:19.38Skyfirehi hi du
05:19.47Skyfirelol
05:20.16vlad_medawiki
05:20.19vlad_er
05:20.20vlad_mediawiki
05:22.27*** join/#wowwiki JunkHead-Work (n=none@static-65-73-21-211.br1.atm.al.frontiernet.net)
05:22.28Skyfireooooo
05:22.34Skyfireare you taking it out?
05:22.44Skyfirenope
05:22.49Skyfirestill up :P
05:23.16DuTempeteoooh, the things you don't remember from childhood... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0EPk1k1uzE
05:23.29Skyfirelooooool
05:26.16Skyfire:0
05:26.41Skyfirecomeon rustak, bring it down man!
05:26.43Skyfire:P
05:29.29Karrion|Meetingzomg
05:29.57SkyfireGG
05:30.01Skyfirefucking owned
05:30.03Skyfirebtw, dutempete
05:30.10Skyfirehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM_AmHbWAoY&mode=related&search=
05:31.28Karrion|MeetingPsyker7: http://www.blah.com/?{{urlencode:This is a test}}
05:31.50Karrion|Meetingand now, that meeting >.<
05:33.04Skyfirelol
05:33.08Skyfirebeast wars for the fucking win
05:33.11DuTempeteSomehow I get the feeling that the movie isn't going to be that preachy...
05:33.21Skyfireearly cgi is so... terrible looking
05:33.43Skyfirehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P2agqq-wKo
05:34.40Psyker7sweet Karrion|Meeting - http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Psyker7/Sandbox2
05:36.57DuTempeteThis is odd... the wiki is suddenly demanding that I validate my email address...
05:37.02DuTempeteWhat's that about?
05:37.13Psyker7read village pump - to stop bots / spammers
05:37.20DuTempeteah
05:38.35Tekkubyea you fucking botspamer
05:38.41DuTempeteoh!  oh!  somebody fixed the preferences pages so I can actually read them, now!!! YAY!!!!
05:39.01Psyker7omgomg!!
05:39.10Psyker7it's amaaaaazing
05:39.11TekkubOMG OMG could that mean something is actually getting CCS'd? :)
05:40.26DuTempeteOMG!
05:40.46DuTempetenot... CSS!
05:41.28Skyfireis it sad that i am so thoroughly enchanted by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P2agqq-wKo ?
05:42.02Psyker7is there a guild list template?
05:42.33Skyfireas in?
05:42.40Skyfiresurely not {{guild}}?
05:43.05Psyker7no, as in for server pages..... if not i might make one
05:43.32Skyfireoh.... no, no templates, but there are tables here and there already
05:43.44Psyker7yeah i've got a table on my own server page....
05:43.54Psyker7if its a template then can do auto armory links but
05:44.37Psyker7can't see one....
05:44.48Psyker7would 'http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Guild_List' be ok?
05:44.56SkyfireTemplate:Guild list
05:45.08Skyfiredecap the second word
05:45.21Psyker7on it :)
05:46.11DuTempeteWouldn't a table or remplate on server pages kind of discourage the average user from adding their guild to the list?
05:46.32Skyfirenot at all
05:46.38Psyker7makes it easier
05:46.49Psyker7atm they add '*Anzacs - [http://www.anzacsguild.com/]' for example
05:46.49Skyfirethey don't have to deal with all the tabling
05:47.14Psyker7after template would be {{Guild_List|Anzacs|www.anzacsguild.com}}
05:47.33Psyker7minus the cap... >.<
05:47.46Skyfireyou need to add a |server| to that
05:47.47Skyfire:o
05:48.06Psyker7hrm....
05:48.15Skyfireyou'll need to make an alternate template for eu guilds
05:48.17Skyfire:]
05:48.20Psyker7page name.... hrm....
05:48.27Psyker7if they are on server pages....
05:48.33Skyfireno
05:48.48Skyfirei wish though
05:53.29Psyker7{{#sub:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|7|-3}}
05:53.42Psyker7would get the server name if its on a server page
05:53.52Psyker7{{#sub:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|-2|}}
05:53.57Psyker7would get the locality
05:54.23Skyfiretekkub: yes
05:54.42Skyfireeh
05:54.55Psyker7O,o
05:55.04Skyfirenot you psyker
05:59.42DuTempeteWow, I like this server page: http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Whisperwind_US
06:00.33Skyfirecrafterlist would be nicer if it made the links like {{Loot}} does
06:02.36DuTempeteprobably
06:02.48Skyfirei saw someone working on that earlier today...
06:03.03Skyfirein their userspace
06:03.26DuTempeteanyone know if there's a way to make your watchlist show each individual edit, rather than grouping edits on a single page under the most recent edit?
06:03.43Skyfireyes
06:03.44DuTempeteYeah, I went there after reading a pump topic
06:04.50Skyfirepreferences -> watchlist
06:04.50Skyfirecheck "Expand watchlist to show all applicable changes"
06:04.50DuTempeteKiltek said he was taking a look at it
06:05.06DuTempeteSee, I couldn't see all that preferences shit until today ;)
06:05.29SkyfireLern 2 highlight text -_-
06:05.33Skyfirewith your cursor
06:08.29DuTempeteI was doing that before, but I'm lazy, and shouldn't have to.
06:08.35Skyfirelol
06:09.37Skyfirehttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Chippydip/Sandbox/Template:Crafting_row
06:09.56DuTempetedizamn... what's all that other crazy info on there, now, that I didn't ask for?
06:10.28Skyfirewho you talking to?
06:10.40DuTempetemyself
06:10.50DuTempetetalking about the watchlist
06:10.57Skyfireblgh
06:11.42Skyfirepsyker7: row maybe not a such a good thing
06:11.52Skyfirelol
06:13.55Psyker7i'm fiddling...... /shrug
06:15.07Skyfireeh, save it under a new subpage
06:15.19Skyfirecan you set it to 50% for me?
06:15.21Skyfire:)
06:16.06Skyfireo
06:16.43Skyfirehuh
06:16.45Skyfirehmm
06:17.28Psyker7lol
06:17.45Psyker7trying to sort out the table header now to be in two columns
06:17.50DuTempeteMy server page doesn't get a lot of hits, though
06:18.34DuTempeteI'm debating whether to add the table in, or not.
06:18.50Skyfirewhich table?
06:19.13Skyfirehmm... i have early release tomorrow.
06:19.39Skyfireyou bork it psyker
06:19.40Skyfirelol
06:21.09SkosirisSky
06:21.19Skyfire?
06:21.25DuTempeteoh, shoot.  Stupid battlegroup template makes it look funny
06:21.28Skosiriswould you happen to be running Mac OS X ?
06:21.28Psyker7bork?
06:21.32Skyfirebroke
06:21.42Skyfireand no, i'm not ;(
06:21.43Psyker7still working atm, now adding the second column
06:34.42Skyfireugh
06:34.48Skyfirei hate binomial distributions
06:36.20Skyfiremake sure to make horde red! :P
06:36.45Skyfireand ew psyker
06:37.06Psyker7yeah >.<
06:37.14Psyker7not sure what happened there
06:37.20Skyfirehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Shadowmoon_US#Guild_Listing
06:37.34Psyker7aye thats what i was aiming for lol
06:37.43Skyfirei should be able to just add guilds, rather than having to use piping :/
06:38.04Psyker7the pipes didnt work anyway..... atm you'd have to match one alli guild to a horde guild... = bad
06:38.15Skyfireyeah
06:38.19Psyker7tables over tempates = ugly
06:38.23Skyfirethe quest continues!
06:41.15*** join/#wowwiki roxutee (n=eetu@dsl-tregw3-fe4bdf00-249.dhcp.inet.fi)
06:44.15Psyker7not sure if its doable as a single table if theya re going to be next to each other. I could do it with one table floated left, one right, with widths of 50%.....
06:51.35*** join/#wowwiki Kaos (n=Kaos@vir78-1-82-230-45-137.fbx.proxad.net)
06:54.26DuTempeteHey, Skosiris, what up?
06:55.34DuTempeteCould you do it, Psyker7, but require there to be a few extra pipes floating about?  Or is that only doable with tables?
06:56.15DuTempeteOr, rather, it could just be rows, and variables for alilance and horde?
06:56.26Psyker7dno
06:56.31Psyker7what i've got atm works... two seperate tables
06:56.36Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Psyker7/Sandbox2
06:57.34DuTempeteTable's alright, but it doesn't follow standard wiki CSS =P
06:57.46Psyker7lol
06:57.52Psyker7thoughts?
06:57.53DuTempetenot that I dont' like it  :)
06:58.10DuTempeteI would stick with the red and blue
06:58.13Psyker7ideally i'd like it to be a single template header....
06:58.16DuTempetesince that's super popular
06:58.36DuTempeteI don't think you can do that
06:58.44Psyker7that's what i thought :(
06:58.48DuTempeteit would require indefinite variables
06:59.02DuTempeteundefined in the template script
06:59.31DuTempetesince you don't know how many guilds will be on the list
06:59.38Psyker7atm it needs an alliance header, a horde header, and a footer + the actual guild list template
07:00.13DuTempeteJust needs one header
07:00.24Psyker7how?
07:00.35DuTempetewe're talking one table, right?
07:00.45Psyker7i would like a single table
07:00.45Psyker7its 2 atm
07:00.55DuTempeteoh, you're talking about what you have now
07:01.30Psyker7i'm lost >.<
07:01.44DuTempeteSee, ideally, you could make one, and guild entries would be under the variables Alliance, and Horde, and new entries would be numbered
07:01.52DuTempetelike Alliance1, Alilance2, and so forth
07:01.56Psyker7yes
07:02.04DuTempetebut I don't know of any way to get that to work in a template
07:02.13Psyker7my thinking :P
07:02.27Psyker7no way to define right / left
07:03.04DuTempeteit would involved an if template
07:03.41DuTempetesuch as: if horde*, then add alliance cell, fill horde cell
07:03.59DuTempetethat you could do
07:04.59DuTempeteBut I dunno if numbering variables like that would even be a good idea...
07:05.27DuTempetesince the list should be alphabetized, that means users would have to renumber each variable when they add a new guild
07:07.59*** join/#wowwiki zeeg_ (n=dcramer@c-69-181-197-42.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
07:08.49*** join/#wowwiki Kaos (n=Kaos@vir78-1-82-230-45-137.fbx.proxad.net)
07:14.10*** join/#wowwiki Brommi (n=yes@0x535d71ef.slnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
07:16.15*** join/#wowwiki the_squid (n=Alex@dsl-220-235-114-228.sa.westnet.com.au)
07:21.59Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Psyker7/Sandbox2
07:21.59Psyker7DuTempete =)
07:22.09Psyker7the templates exist int he Template namespace now
07:22.45DuTempeteawesome
07:22.51DuTempeteNot sure that footer is really necessary, though
07:22.59DuTempeteBut it looks good
07:23.17Psyker7for longer lists... i've got craploads of guilds on my server page
07:23.21Psyker7about to update it to it :)
07:23.27DuTempetelol really taht many?
07:23.59*** join/#wowwiki Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)
07:23.59*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ
07:29.59Psyker7hrm.... having the entire website listed makes it too wide =(
07:30.26DuTempetelol
07:30.54DuTempetelink me your server page?
07:31.05Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Uther_US
07:31.07Psyker7havn't saved yet
07:32.04*** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr)
07:32.04*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ
07:32.10AdysMorning peeps
07:32.27Psyker7howdy adys
07:34.56Psyker7hrm, it also doesn't work with websites that arn't recognised by the wiki as websites
07:35.50Psyker7actually no... websites with a = sign in them >.<
07:38.13*** join/#wowwiki Bleeter (n=Bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter)
07:38.45*** join/#wowwiki Elkano (i=Elkano@client0065.vpn.uni-saarland.de)
07:39.43Elkanofyi: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors seems to be broken
07:40.24*** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-29-116.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr)
07:42.12*** join/#wowwiki dotted (n=me@194.182.114.197)
07:43.35Tekkuba template psy?
07:43.48Psyker7yeah fixed it now Tekkub :)
07:43.56Tekkubk
07:44.10TekkubI wrastled with = in links in templates for a while
07:44.29Tekkubcan't use {{t|<link here>}}
07:44.39Tekkubmust be {{t|1=<link here>}}
07:45.28Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Uther_US#Guild_Listing
07:45.34Psyker7new template for guild lists finished :)
07:46.02Psyker7ew at the numbers for links but :(
07:46.15Psyker7O,o one stuffed up
07:46.21JunkHead-WorkThat's nice.
07:46.45SkosirisLOL
07:46.57SkosirisAdys, Tek, you've got to watch this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYu6fpaNrBA
07:47.38Psyker7Ah just did a typo.... fixed :)
07:48.46Tekkubwhy?
07:48.48TekkubI hate him
07:49.08Skosirisshe gets pwned
07:50.50Adysthis is pathetic, lol
07:52.04Adysthe comments on it are worse tho
07:52.47Skosirishttp://www.digg.com/videos/comedy/Quentin_Tarantino_OWNS_Movie_Reviewer_on_Live_TV
07:52.47AdysKiiiirrk
07:53.06AdysWhy did you separate "Mounts" and "Items" in the undoc'd changes
07:56.59DuTempetePsyker7, have you tried using CSS and {{clrl}}?
07:57.11DuTempeteI bet you can get the two to line up
07:58.05Psyker7the line up fine atm.... ?
07:58.15DuTempeteI mean next to each other.
07:58.44DuTempeteFF2.1 shows the horde box to the right, and underneat the alliance box
07:59.28Psyker7i got ff2.1..... looks fine unless i make my window REALLY small
07:59.45Psyker7i'll have a fiddle but :)
08:00.16DuTempeteoh, wtf, I'm still running 2.0.0.3...
08:00.51DuTempeteoh, nm, that's the newest
08:00.56DuTempeteI've got 2.1 on the brain =P
08:01.35Psyker7meh
08:01.35Psyker7i knew mine was up to date... 2.0.0.3 it is :)
08:01.36DuTempetewell I dunno why they don't show up next to each other
08:02.02DuTempeteI run 1280x1024 reso
08:02.11Psyker7clrl put it below it
08:02.32Psyker7where abouts you saying i should put it?
08:02.51Psyker7i though it was more to move stuff below something rather than keeping two things beside each otehr
08:03.05Tekkubclrl will put it below on the left
08:03.14Tekkubclr will put it below all left and right
08:03.51Psyker7check it now
08:03.56Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Uther_US
08:04.40Tekkubwhatcha doing the guild list?
08:04.53DuTempeteclr drops it underneath the aligned template?
08:05.03Psyker7the guild list
08:05.29DuTempeteTekkub, do you see the two tables sitting next to each other?
08:05.43Tekkubokey, you making like a template/boilerplate/something?
08:05.49Tekkubyes
08:05.49Psyker7template
08:05.59Psyker7they should be next to each other :) so thats good lol
08:06.01Tekkubokey, opinions.....
08:06.03DuTempeteOdd... why don't I...
08:06.05Tekkubbrace yourself
08:06.12Psyker7lol go for it
08:06.21Psyker7my first go at a real template :P
08:06.31Tekkub1) website links... rip off the elinks default globe
08:06.36DuTempeteCan't find the clear cache option in FF...
08:06.39Tekkubadd text "Website" to the link
08:06.49Tekkub[1] [2] [1223] is fugly
08:06.55Tekkub2) armory
08:07.00Tekkubget a nice icon there
08:07.07Tekkubadd text "Armory"
08:07.07Psyker7aaah good ID
08:07.17Tekkubdrop the title headres completely :)
08:07.24Psyker7aww.. i like em :P
08:07.33Tekkubmake the main cell backgrounds fit the faction
08:07.37Tekkubally dk bsue
08:07.42Tekkubwhorde dk red
08:07.46Tekkub*blue
08:07.54Psyker7easy enough
08:07.56DuTempeteHa! got it, and yes, now it's aligned correctly
08:08.25Psyker7good to know :P
08:08.34Tekkubdon't span the whole page either, looks like .... bad .... left .... right .... justified ... news ... article on widescreen
08:08.44Adysspammers
08:09.01Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.1.0_%28Undocumented_Changes%29
08:09.02AdysMoved
08:09.03Psyker7suggestions on a width ?
08:09.04Tekkublet the columns auto-fit to content
08:09.26Psyker7hrm.. icons for armory...
08:09.45DuTempetePsyker, I was basing my 1 template comments on seeign them separately... it looks fine lined up like that, shouldn't really be necessary to make 1 template this way.
08:09.50Tekkublemme find a nice wow one :)
08:10.02Psyker7http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/favicon.ico ?
08:10.23Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Chest_Chain.png ?
08:10.41AdysYeah the official worldofwarcraft one is fine
08:10.49Tekkubtheir favicon isn't 22x22 is it?
08:10.51DuTempeteI like favicon better
08:11.05Adysbut yup we need 22x22
08:11.11Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Helmet_08.png
08:11.22Adysanything tbh
08:11.25Tekkuboh better... http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Helmet_21.png
08:11.41Psyker7oo
08:11.48Tekkubpurdy :)
08:11.50Adysjust upload something, it can be changed later
08:11.51DuTempeteI thought someone got a favicon on the wiki?
08:12.02DuTempeteit was on the village pump
08:12.39Psyker7so make it smaller and upload it?
08:14.07Tekkubyea, make a 22x22 png
08:14.33Tekkubsame cat, same name + "-22x22"
08:15.22AdysUpdated Template:Elink
08:15.54DuTempeteoh, my bad, I didn't recognise the terminology
08:17.09Adyscan someone upload the icon?
08:17.23AdysImage:Icon-armory-22x22.png i think
08:18.38Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Icon-armory-22x22.png
08:18.39Psyker7done
08:19.09Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki_talk:Policy/Writing/Lore&curid=33290&diff=589447&oldid=500634
08:20.19Psyker7my bad forgot the cat >.<
08:21.17*** join/#wowwiki |Rg4B|-rOnslaugh (n=titank88@66.206.148.83)
08:21.25|Rg4B|-rOnslaughhey everyone
08:21.29|Rg4B|-rOnslaughanyone still up
08:22.04Psyker7lol
08:22.24TekkubI love ignoring those short attention span types
08:22.34Tekkubdon't get that IRC is meant to be left open
08:27.10Psyker7mostly done....
08:27.16Psyker7but dinner time bbl
08:41.10*** join/#wowwiki drin (n=drin@atwork-46.r-212.178.112.atwork.nl)
08:41.10drinmorning : )
08:41.10Adys"
08:41.10AdysThe change to Devastate in 2.1 is being reverted and will not be a change for the patch once it goes live. We've done some additional damage testing and the output is in far excess of what we had thought it would provide."
08:41.10drinIs the one that made the template/skin for wowwiki an insider?
08:41.15drinnooooooooo : (
08:41.38sancuslol
08:41.50sancusone of these days, bliz will figure out how to use spreadsheets
08:41.57drinhehe :D
08:42.04Adysand bg matching system "slipped out of the patchnotes by mistake"!
08:42.08Adyshaha, awesome
08:42.35sancusI have nfc how you can make a simple change to a single ability and not be able to PRECISELY predict the exact amount of difference it will make with full access to the combat mechanics code
08:42.45Adys"Yeah, its a major change we announced since what.. not even 2 monts
08:42.52sancusit ain't rocket science
08:42.58AdysWe "forgot" to include it in the patchnote
08:43.08Adysand yea agreed
08:43.37AdysEU realms back up btw
08:43.39sancusbut I'm not surprised or anything
08:44.18Adyskek
08:44.19Adys"When asked why the matching system didn't make the notes, Drysc responded: I would guess it's because the patch notes don't fill themselves in as we make changes."
08:44.36drinhehe
08:44.43drinChangemanagement FTW :D
08:45.05Adyswtf honestly? the patchnotes is 83 kb long, and the undoc'd changes are already 15kb long
08:45.08Tekkubheh, that's like the post to the UI forum, think it was Drysc too...
08:45.25TekkubUI forum always has a nice sticky by Iriel detailing every UI change
08:45.33Tekkubwell updated, big list every patch
08:45.48TekkubDrysc comes in, make another 2.1 sticky with about 1/4 of the changes
08:46.11TekkubI was so happy, I got to say "READ THE DAMN STICKIES BEFORE YAOU POST!" to a Blue
08:46.21Tekkubthe thread got removed a few days later :)
08:46.27dottedhah
08:46.39*** join/#wowwiki Pyrhos (n=nn@ANantes-157-1-108-65.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr)
08:48.44Adyslol
08:48.56Pyrhosyo !
08:49.25AdysAnyone has the new flasks' stats under the hand?
08:49.34AdysNeed to add them to the alchemy additional notes >.>
08:49.47Adysnot the new stats of the old flasks, the stats of the new flasks
08:50.06sancus"keep your rest-of-blizzard incompetence out of the UI department, thx!"
08:50.17Adyshaha
08:50.56sancusI remain convinced the only competent software developers in Blizzard are the UI guys and the engine programmers
08:51.41Tekkubyea, and to top it off, I get to refer to the UI guy as "Slow Ken"
08:52.07TekkubI know slouken hates me
08:52.17TekkubI hope I get to go to BlizzCon and molester his beard
08:54.09AdysLol at everyone crying because they cant get free epix because they are not honored with violet eye blah blah
08:54.22Adysno raiding experience = not supposed to test that shit, for once its a good idea they had
08:54.26dottedmeh why would he hate you oO?
08:54.52dottedAdys
08:54.53dotted- Flask of Fortification 500 HP and 10 Defense Rating
08:54.55dotted- Flask of Mighty Restoration 25 MP / 5sec
08:54.57dotted- Flask of Relentless Assault 120 AP
08:54.59dotted- Flask of Arcane Fortification 35 Arcane Resist 20 HP / 5sec
08:55.00AdysNo no no
08:55.02dotted- Flask of Shadow Fortification 35 Arcane Resist 20 HP / 5sec
08:55.03dotted- Flask of Titans 400 HP
08:55.05Adysl2read
08:55.05dotted- Distilled Wisdom 65 Intellect
08:55.07dotted- Supreme Power 70 Spell Damage
08:55.09dotted- Chromatic Resistance 25 Resist All
08:55.18Adys[18 Apr 07 10:50] * Adys * not the new stats of the old flasks, the stats of the new flasks
08:55.49Adyssigh dotted :p
08:57.11DuTempeteYou're such a brat, Adys. =P
08:57.18AdysI know :D
08:57.59DuTempeteDotted, I think you should bitch-slap him.
08:58.57DuTempeteNow that I've wasted 3 hours editing, and not doing homework...
08:59.04dottedAdys your life failed :p
08:59.13DuTempeteGood one, dotted!
08:59.57Adys:p
09:00.12AdysI'd kick you out from the channel but i cant be arsed
09:00.23DuTempetearsed?
09:00.32Adysdamn americans
09:00.38DuTempetehey!
09:00.46DuTempeteIt's fucking americans, to you frenchies!
09:01.00DuTempeteget it right, geez.
09:01.34Psyker7back from dinner
09:01.40Psyker7and http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Guild_list_create
09:01.41Psyker7tada
09:01.44PyrhosUnstable Flask of the Bandit +20 Agi +40 AP +30 Sta
09:01.46PyrhosUnstable Flask of the Beasts +20 Agi +20 Str +30 Sta
09:01.48PyrhosUnstable Flask of the Elder +20 Int +8 MP5 +30 Sta
09:01.50PyrhosUnstable Flask of the Physician +20 Int +44 Healing +30 Sta
09:01.52PyrhosUnstable Flask of the Soldier +20 Crit Rating +20 Str +30 Sta
09:01.54PyrhosUnstable Flask of the Sorcerer +20 Int +23 Spl Dmg +30 Sta
09:02.06Psyker7ooo
09:02.09Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Uther_US#Guild_Listing in action :)
09:02.11DuTempetecolors, psyker7!
09:02.19Psyker7l2reload properly
09:02.27DuTempetedie.
09:02.42Adysugh
09:02.44Psyker7next?
09:03.02Adyselink isnt really made for this king of links tbh
09:03.09DuTempetethe headers, too, silly
09:03.09Adysi mean, its ugly
09:03.36Psyker7agreed the elinks are a little ugly.... i'll kill headers =)
09:03.45DuTempeteand put n some cell padding...
09:03.47Adyskill out the icon :p
09:03.57Bleeterraar!
09:04.19winkilleri like it
09:04.34Psyker7hrm padding would be a bit better...t he icon could mb be smaller i reckon
09:04.49DuTempetethe icon is good, don't list to Adys
09:04.52DuTempete*listen
09:05.17AdysI wonder
09:05.20DuTempetejust get rid of the header/footer, and color the title cells
09:05.31Adyswhen they will release a zone and "forget to put it in the patchnotes"
09:05.37DuTempetelol
09:05.41DuTempetesoon, probably
09:05.53Adysthey actually forgot to list a major change
09:05.59DuTempeteEQ used to do that, but they would say "new zones available....
09:06.01Adyspeople talking about it for months
09:06.07DuTempetewhich change?
09:06.15AdysBG Gear matching system
09:06.25Psyker7title cells DuTempete ?
09:06.32DuTempeteI thought I saw something about gear matching?
09:06.34AdysDuTemplate*
09:06.38DuTempetehehe
09:06.40AdysNo, nothing about it anywhere
09:06.59DuTempetethe "Alliance" and "Horde" cells should be colored appropriately, as well
09:07.55Adyslol, they still didnt fix the flying mount bug oO
09:08.53winkillerI played PTR only once, and found it completely useless
09:09.13DuTempeteheh... I don't have time to play on the regular realms, let alone PTR
09:09.20winkillerwas before the rogue patch, but how should I test something if the gear I got was 100% different from mine...
09:09.50winkillerimagine a dagger rogue in pvp blues compared to full t2+epic swords/daggers
09:10.30Psyker7wierd... padding didnt work
09:10.58DuTempetewinkiller, I think they do an exact copy now
09:11.10winkillermuch better, yea
09:11.11DuTempetelink me the template again, psyker7?
09:11.47winkillerNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
09:11.57winkilleryou should be stabbed for that colors >>
09:12.09winkillerrevert asap or I'll die of eye cancer :/
09:12.18DuTempeteack
09:12.22DuTempeteno kidding
09:12.24DuTempetehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Drak%27thul_US#Guilds
09:12.25Adysinteresting
09:12.32DuTempetelook at those table colors, psyker7
09:12.41Adysthey added an npc that asks you to be exalted with shatar, cenarion expedition and the aldor
09:12.54winkillereu still down?
09:12.59DuTempetefrightening, Adys
09:13.06Adysno winkiller
09:13.12Adysrealms back u
09:13.14Psyker7i'm fixing the colors sheez.... lol
09:13.15Adysup*
09:13.20DuTempetehehe
09:13.27Psyker7got people harrassing me at college as well... goign to movies in a bit
09:13.30winkillerah, pw typo
09:14.09DuTempetesmooth, winkiller
09:14.27DuTempetetell them to fuck off, wow wiki is more important
09:15.26Psyker7lol
09:16.52DuTempetepsyker7, it's cellpadding, not padding
09:16.54Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Uther_US#Guild_Listing
09:17.14Psyker7ok remind me to brush up on my css sometime... my bad
09:17.20Psyker7although i quite like the padding effect :P
09:17.25DuTempetenp, I'm trying to be helpful =P
09:17.27winkilleruse the drakthul-colors on the heading
09:17.30winkillerand it's fine I guess
09:17.51Psyker7cellpadding one word?
09:18.08DuTempetepadding just adds padding to the table
09:18.14DuTempeteaye, one word
09:18.49DuTempeteSo, Adys, when are you going to define "arsed" for me?
09:18.59Adysbothered
09:19.26DuTempetewell that's lame.
09:19.47DuTempete=P
09:19.53DuTempeteSill frenchies.
09:19.56DuTempete*silly
09:19.58Psyker7DuTempete - does cellpadding only work when on a cell? or can i define it int he tables style?... doesn't seemt ob e working
09:20.22DuTempeteit should work in the table parameters...
09:22.20Psyker7can you figure why it isnt then? it appears there on the page in correct html... but it doesn't seem to be padding
09:22.56*** part/#wowwiki JunkHead-Work (n=none@static-65-73-21-211.br1.atm.al.frontiernet.net)
09:23.15DuTempetekks, I'll see what I can do.
09:23.43Psyker7<table class="wikitable" style="background-color: #000022; padding: 5px; cellpadding: 5px;" align="left">
09:23.47Psyker7looks right =(
09:26.29DuTempetetry taking out the padding parameter
09:26.43DuTempeteor putting cellpadding before padding
09:27.01DuTempeteCSS does this ordering thing I still don't understand
09:28.07Psyker7no difference
09:28.13DuTempeteI'm curious, though... why did you create one template for EU and one for US?
09:28.18DuTempeteohh... links, nm
09:28.43Psyker7=) I didn't make the EU one... but i named the original US
09:29.13DuTempetealright, lemme do some copy-pasting and see what I can work out
09:30.37Psyker7know what ... can probally kill the (EU) one and just add an extra thing to the template with an iff
09:30.39Psyker7*if
09:31.39DuTempetewhere are you getting the 4th colum from?
09:31.47DuTempetemebbe
09:32.04DuTempeteand the alliance/horde parts don't really need the specification
09:32.05Psyker7there we go....
09:32.21Psyker7i just got it.... without using css.... would be better with it but
09:32.21DuTempeteyes!
09:33.02DuTempetemebbe try 5em
09:33.48DuTempetehrmm... how to prevent it from adding padding to the top and bottom, though...
09:33.56DuTempetelemme go look it up on my CSS site
09:34.15DuTempetebtw
09:34.18DuTempetehttp://www.w3schools.com/default.asp is my hero
09:34.36Psyker7you can't go 5em on it.... only takes numbers with html
09:35.08Psyker7there is no cellpadding option with css....
09:35.31DuTempeteokies, lemme try this
09:35.41DuTempeteyeah, you're right
09:35.49DuTempeteit needs to be added in each cell
09:35.52Psyker7can do
09:35.56Psyker7doing it now in fact
09:35.56Psyker7style="padding-left:5x; padding-right:5px;
09:36.33*** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.136)
09:36.34DuTempeteexactly
09:37.31DuTempete<3 W3!
09:39.39Psyker7got it
09:39.42Psyker7http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Uther_US#Guild_Listing
09:40.36DuTempetemuuuuch better
09:40.41DuTempeteif you want to shorthand the CSS
09:40.53DuTempeteuse "padding: 0px 5px"
09:41.08DuTempeteinstead of specifying both sides
09:41.50Psyker7meh
09:45.16Tekkubheading color is fugly, darken it :)
09:45.33Tekkuband now, bedtime!
09:45.44DuTempetetwo more things, psyker7
09:46.02DuTempetein guild_list_horde, and guild_list_ally
09:46.25DuTempetehorde, cell color should be #322
09:46.34DuTempetechange border to border-bottom
09:46.52DuTempeteally, cell color sould be #223, and change border to border-bottom
09:47.52Psyker7so you reckon keep the color the same throught the whole thing? /shrug
09:48.07DuTempeteyou could probably remove background-color from the cell parameters entirely, sinc you have it in the table parameters
09:48.13DuTempeteyeah, same color
09:48.50DuTempeteand personally, I like a white border better than a blue border... but that's minor
09:49.04DuTempeteyes, that's it!
09:49.21DuTempetegorgeous ;)
09:49.54DuTempeteoh!
09:50.02DuTempeteWhat about links to each guild's article?
09:50.16Psyker7they don't always exist... not sure if that's worth it
09:50.27Psyker7looking at if statements now for EU vs. US
09:50.54DuTempeteIt's absolutely worth it.  Those articles are there for a reason.
09:51.38Psyker7what variable name do i use for EU US? loc?
09:52.16DuTempetehrm...
09:52.41DuTempeteyeah, loc or location would probably work
09:52.57DuTempeteor region
09:53.39DuTempetelol... red light district...
10:04.54*** join/#wowwiki Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)
10:04.54*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ
10:06.23DuTempeteonly thing I'm worried about is special characters in the URL, psyker7
10:06.39DuTempeteI expect that some browsers won't replace them
10:06.56DuTempeteso they would have to be replaced manually
10:07.17DuTempeteand they might not think of that when entering their server into the template
10:08.59Psyker7the template uses {{urlencode}}
10:09.02Psyker7so that's not a problem
10:09.17Psyker7you can remove the (EU) now btw... its a single template
10:09.59DuTempeteokies
10:10.28Psyker7is it just EU and US atm with armories?
10:10.55DuTempeteI dunno, honestly
10:11.03DuTempeteBUT, it's not giving me the US armory
10:11.12DuTempeteit's putting in the EU armory
10:12.19Psyker7>.< thought i just checked that
10:12.42Psyker7oh my bad...defaults to EU.... add |loc=EU on the end of each guild =)
10:12.52Psyker7or |loc=US
10:12.53DuTempeteahhh ok
10:13.04DuTempeteforgot about that ;)
10:14.26DuTempetenice
10:17.58*** join/#wowwiki Teomyr (i=teo@p54A36E8E.dip.t-dialin.net)
10:17.58*** mode/#wowwiki [+v Teomyr] by ChanServ
10:20.55DuTempetelol
10:21.15DuTempeteone of the guilds on my server doesn't exist anymore... good thing I checked the armory =P
10:21.26sancusscrub guilds do that
10:21.40sancus;p
10:22.30DuTempeteoh... psyker7
10:22.52DuTempeteSome guilds name their pages "Guildname Guild"
10:23.14DuTempeteThat will ruin the armory URL
10:24.08Adyshey teomyr
10:24.16Teomyrhey :)
10:25.39DuTempeteshoot, maybe guild articles aren't compatible with the way you've written the template...
10:25.42DuTempetehow to fix that?
10:26.17*** join/#wowwiki Royal (n=m@cp291458-b.landg1.lb.home.nl)
10:26.48Psyker7i should change it... i think the policy is "Guild:<guildname>_(<loc>)"
10:27.05DuTempeteno guild namespace
10:27.06Psyker7like "Guild:Anzacs_Uther(US)
10:27.15Psyker7hrm.... was that servers... hang on
10:27.26DuTempeteand the location is for disambiguation only
10:27.52DuTempeteI mean, I could always change the pages
10:28.05DuTempetebut if there's a disambiguation, the armory URL is screwed
10:28.29Psyker7no.... you can change the internal link without changing the guild name
10:28.38Psyker7the official stance ong uilds:
10:28.38Psyker7The guild pages should be in the Guild namespace, contain the complete name of the guild, and be followed by the guild's server and country code in parentheses. Example: [[Guild:The Mighty Guild (Arthas US)]]. Note there is no space between Guild: and the guild name. However, there is a space between the guild name and the following parenthetical.
10:28.42DuTempetewhat do you mean?
10:28.58Psyker7i'll fix it dw..... but if people don't use the proper format it won't link to it
10:29.04Psyker7it should be
10:29.05Psyker7[[Guild:The Mighty Guild (Arthas US)]]
10:29.22DuTempeteoh, well then nobody on my server has it right =P
10:29.36Psyker7it was only ratified recently
10:29.46DuTempetenot even my guild, whose page *I* created... but then that was the first thing I ever did on wow wiki =P
10:29.54DuTempeteah, that would explain it
10:30.13DuTempeteso I should probably go through and do some moving and redirecting
10:31.01DuTempeteWell, I have to run
10:31.05DuTempeteI have to get ready for work
10:31.43Psyker7catch
10:32.33DuTempetecatch?
10:33.09DuTempeteadd a pipe to get rid of the namepaces =P
10:35.01Psyker7done
10:35.02DuTempeteokies, I'm out
10:35.04DuTempetelates
10:35.19DuTempetelooks good!
10:35.23DuTempete<3
10:42.12*** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr)
10:42.12*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ
10:50.57*** join/#wowwiki Juido (n=chatzill@dslc-082-082-087-190.pools.arcor-ip.net)
10:53.09Juidohello :) is there a german wow/lua channel on this server ?
10:54.11dottedPsyker7 it needs borders
10:54.18dottedLOL
10:54.32dottedi had mirc scrolled half way up -.-
10:57.03winkillercommon mistake
11:01.28Psyker7heh
11:01.33Psyker7does it still need borders?
11:01.41Psyker7and i don't know Juido
11:02.13Psyker7<PROTECTED>
11:06.32dottedgief link
11:07.03dottedPsyker7
11:07.54dottedyes it still need borders
11:54.17Hobinheim|sleepyanybody here asian?
11:54.33Hobinheim|sleepywow no one has said anything for like 50 min...
11:55.31p30npikaboo
12:03.52winkillerboo
12:12.15abecxis there anyway to tab align in wowwiki?
12:12.40abecxfor instances Month Day, Year:\t Contenthere
12:12.45winkillerin [code] or such
12:12.52winkillerotherwise no, use tables
12:13.36abecxty
12:17.36winkillerWTF http://www.wowwiki.com/M%C3%B8%C3%B8%C3%B1_G%C3%BB%C3%A5rd
12:17.44winkillerban nonascii
12:18.14Teomyrbad idea, winkiller
12:18.28winkillernah, depends
12:18.43winkilleras you see it can easily lead to major madness
12:19.08Teomyri'd ban excessive usage
12:19.22winkillerI seriously doubt the common sense of people forming such a guild in general
12:19.43winkillerah.. Øméñ (Guildmaster
12:19.51winkillerthere we have it :P
12:19.52Teomyrlol
12:20.02winkillershouldn't this use Guild: btw?
12:20.10winkillerwasn't that ratified only lately?
12:20.25Teomyrit should
12:20.27sancusI don't know why they allow extended ascii in guild names
12:20.35sancusshould be disallowed just like in char names
12:20.36sancusoh well
12:20.43winkillerwell, on German servers äüö is perfectly fine
12:20.50winkillerstandard keyboard, for example
12:21.07sancussure, have some exceptions for localization purposes
12:21.16winkillerbut still, EU/US should be pure ascii
12:21.25winkillerfor whisper-sanity's sake
12:21.41Teomyrhehe
12:21.46sancusguild pages on wowwiki are lol though
12:22.24winkillerTemplate:Guild list foot - Template for horde guild list.
12:22.28winkillerPsyker7: *
12:34.01*** join/#wowwiki DrunkDuck (i=HannuAnk@adsl-82-141-88-61.kotinet.com)
12:49.35*** join/#wowwiki dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk)
13:02.47*** join/#wowwiki TheMiner (n=MoreBloo@dynamic-acs-24-154-38-22.zoominternet.net)
13:02.53TheMinerany admins awake ?
13:03.05winkillerthey never are :P
13:03.37TheMinerWell I kinda found what I thinks a bug ... http://www.wowwiki.com/Powerlevel_fishing it comes up wit hthe downtime message but other parts of the site r fine
13:03.55TheMinerand i really need to get back to that article to max my stuff hehe
13:04.03TheMinerand i cant find ne cached copies on yahoo lol
13:04.49Teomyrworks for me
13:05.07TheMinerwell would u wana do me a big favor lol bec its messed up for me
13:05.19TheMinerwould you ming copying and pasting everything o nthat page into an email and get it to me ?
13:06.15Teomyrit doesn't work if you refresh the page? did you check that your browser doesn't cache it?
13:06.57TheMinerrefresh over and pover and nothing but the rest of the sites fine far as i can tell... i know how to clear the entire cache but how would I clear it for just the one item / page id hate to have to clear my entire cache
13:07.30Teomyrright
13:08.06Teomyrbtw, the article says the content is from these threads on the forums: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=73459695&pageNo=1&sid=1 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=73459695&pageNo=2&sid=1
13:08.07AdysIm always awake
13:08.10AdysIm just AFK
13:08.33TheMinerok but im asking how would I clear the cache for just the one page ... i dont wana clear the entire cache... because i got stuff i dont wana get rid of... but ya il lcheck those links
13:08.51Adysadd &action=purge
13:09.13Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Powerlevel_fishin&action=purge
13:09.24AdysFishing, even
13:09.31Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Powerlevel_fishing&action=purge
13:09.33Teomyror try holding shift while clicking refresh in your browser
13:09.37TheMinerthx ill give that a shot and LOL... sure ur awake lol
13:09.53Adysblah blah, was afk
13:10.05Adysteo, doesnt work with firefox
13:10.16TheMinerim usin ie 6
13:10.21TheMinerand the shift refresh thing worked
13:10.28Adysie6?
13:10.32Adyswho's asleep..
13:10.44TheMinerya im usin a ninternet explorer 6 browser
13:10.57TheMineri have firefox installed but i use ie
13:10.58Adyscould be worse i guess
13:11.04TheMinerlol
13:11.14Adysupdate it to ie7 already ><
13:11.16TheMineri have i think 4 browsers instaled but i just like ie heh
13:11.24TheMineri dont like the new "looK"
13:11.38TheMinerid use ie7 if it kept the look of ie6
13:11.38Adysheh fair enough
13:11.49Adyshttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/18/breakfast-topic-not-tonight-honey-i-have-a-raid/ This article is awesome
13:11.51TheMinernot that i dont like ie7 bec i do i just despise the look of it
13:12.07TheMinerlol just the title alone makes me wana check it out LOL brb
13:12.19Adys"Then there are the problems that arise when the significant other does start playing WoW. My boyfriend is constantly hogging the computer. My fiancee only wants to play elves. Why do my guildmates keep hitting on my wife? Help, my girlfriend rolled the same class I did and we're fighting for gear!"
13:12.36dotted[@Adys]: teo, doesnt work with firefox <- yes becuase its ctrl+f5
13:12.42AdysMeh
13:12.43Adysthanks
13:15.53*** join/#wowwiki Kitan (n=a158ff8b@65.110.43.170)
13:15.58Kitanhello all
13:16.26Adyshttp://www.action-figure.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=ImageBank&file=index&id=80314 wow
13:16.35Adysheya kitan
13:17.15Kitanwhat is wow about the action figure?
13:18.13Adysjust reading wow insider atm
13:18.35Adyshttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/17/illidan-says-you-are-not-prepared-for-my-coolness/
13:26.14*** join/#wowwiki Tuqui-tuqui (n=Tuqui-tu@smtp.badertv.com)
13:29.25winkilleryeah, couples using the same gear/slots in raids must really suck
13:33.58Kitanwhere did that come from win killer?
13:34.55winkillerAdys' link
13:35.03winkillerah sorry
13:35.04winkillerhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/18/breakfast-topic-not-tonight-honey-i-have-a-raid/
13:35.07winkillerbefore you joined
13:40.05AdysIn the category "Why thottbot sucks"
13:40.06Adyshttp://www.thottbot.com/?n=1061820
13:40.37Teomyrlol
13:40.58AdysI have no clue how that could even pop up
13:41.43KitanMy wife plays way more than I do
13:41.47Kitanin reference to that article
13:42.53*** join/#wowwiki rophy (n=Miranda@220-132-204-186.HINET-IP.hinet.net)
13:43.17Kitanhttp://www.dracolichguard.org/gallery/image_detail.php?gallery=0&image_id=774&gid=1246
13:43.29Kitanmandatory link to a picture of my children. :-P
13:43.53Kitancalc exam today ?:( bleh
13:44.06Kitanno ? just bleh
13:45.29AdysOk
13:45.37AdysIm going to edit Template:Tooltip
13:46.45Kitanuh oh
13:46.55AdysWiki going down
13:47.30*** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-29-116.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr)
13:49.48Kitanwhat did you change adys?
13:50.09AdysRemoved the need of Template:Spell:12345 to Spell:12345 redirects
13:50.15Adysgoing to delete the template redirects
13:50.16*** join/#wowwiki Dragofix (i=Dragofix@dsl-hkigw8-fe10f800-107.dhcp.inet.fi)
13:54.35winkillermy girlfriend would play more than me if she had the time
13:54.35AdysA database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
13:54.35Adys<PROTECTED>
13:54.35Adysfrom within function "Job::batchInsert". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (localhost)".
13:55.18Bagginswwfun its dead again :p
13:56.53Adysya my bad etc :p
13:57.06Bagginswwhmm
13:58.19Kitannaughty Adys!
13:58.23Kitan~spank Adys
13:58.29infobotACTION bends Adys over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Adys's pasty white buttocks.
13:58.29Tuqui-tuqui:o
13:58.32Adysstop beeping me
13:58.34Adysdamnit
13:58.38Kitanuh
13:58.40Kitansoryr adys :)
13:58.45AdysGrrrr.
13:58.48Tuqui-tuquioh... fun is over :<
13:58.49Adys~growl kitan
13:59.21Adysback up
13:59.32dotted~~~~~~
13:59.34infobotACTION takes out a revolver and shoots dotted in the head three times.
13:59.52dotted[15:59:03] [infobot]: Someone already said that 8 seconds ago
14:02.16Kitanwhats up dotted?
14:02.32dottedthe sky :<
14:02.38dottedhar har har im funneh =)
14:02.43Kitanheh
14:02.55Tuqui-tuquihttp://worldofraids.free.fr/news-patch/full-t6/mage-t6.jpg
14:09.10Adysyeah its really some sick stats, not surprising tho
14:09.15Tuqui-tuqui:>
14:09.31Tuqui-tuquiIm going to run Black Temple a thousand times for it ^_^
14:09.44Bibi`ouFwtf ! linking worldofraids instead of my site !
14:09.49Bibi`ouFThis is madness !
14:09.54Tuqui-tuqui:o
14:10.00Tuqui-tuquiI swear it was my evil twin!
14:11.45winkillert6 looks awful
14:11.52winkillerboth mage and rogue
14:11.58Tuqui-tuqui>.>
14:12.20Tuqui-tuquiBibi`ouF, whats your site linkie?
14:12.31Bibi`ouFwww.mmo-champion.com
14:12.42Tuqui-tuquithanks you to you ^_^
14:12.45Bibi`ouFwe've got screenshots, tons of them.
14:13.12Tuqui-tuquiyou know, on an undead female, the T6 set does not look bad :)
14:13.30Tuqui-tuquioh, added to favs by the way :)
14:14.18Bibi`ouFanyway, need a lore info
14:14.21Psyker7any ideas....
14:14.29Bibi`ouFi'm sure Adys will be happy to google it !
14:14.35Bibi`ouFanyone know who is Lord Balthas ?
14:14.35Adysmm?
14:14.42Bibi`ouF(Illidari Lord Balthas actually)
14:14.52Psyker7{{if|http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=108421|true|false}}
14:14.54Psyker7returns false >.<
14:14.54Adysisnt that a blood elf demon?
14:15.12Psyker7{{if|=|true|false}} returns false =(
14:18.44*** join/#wowwiki Juido (n=chatzill@dslc-082-082-087-190.pools.arcor-ip.net)
14:20.53Tuqui-tuquiheh paladins look fruity with their tiara ^_^
14:23.38Psyker7whoo fixed =)
14:23.48*** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-29-116.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr)
14:24.01Psyker7stupid = signs in templates *shakes fist*
14:24.42BagginswwI think that we should add a secondary language section to the racebox
14:25.21Hobinheim|sleepy*shakes fist* = :argh:
14:25.24Bagginswwthat is for languages that are not traditional race language but second language learned.
14:25.41Hobinheim|sleepyBagginsww, how many characters have secondary languages?
14:25.47Hobinheim|sleepyand if anything, make it conditional
14:25.50Bagginswwin the RPG quite a few.
14:25.52Kitaneveryone?
14:25.53Bagginswwya make it conditional
14:25.59Bagginswwonly shows up if its used
14:26.05Kitanor do you not mean common
14:26.16Bagginswwwell for example, ogres
14:26.22Bagginswworcish is a secondary language
14:26.28Bagginswwmain languages are common and low common
14:26.54Bagginswwconsidering that almost eveyr race knwos Common however, as a standard language, that leaves low common as their main main language.
14:27.17Hobinheim|work...
14:27.22Hobinheim|workso many rules...
14:27.40Bagginswwya well I think if you stick with Main language, and secondary languages you'll be fine
14:28.18BagginswwRPG calls them "Bonus Languages" but personally I don't like the sound of that
14:28.28BagginswwSecondary sounds better imo.
14:28.41AdysBaggins
14:28.58Bagginswwya?
14:29.06Adysdoes Lord Balthas ring any bell for you?
14:29.15AdysIllidari Lord Balthas
14:29.37Bagginswwhmm no
14:29.51Bagginswwillidari boss in temple?
14:30.07AdysNot sure
14:30.32Bagginswwonly Illidari I've seen have been shadowmoon valley I think
14:33.39Bagginswwmy idea hobinheim is we can list "main language" in main language section, and usual learned secondary languages in secondary section. Then within each related article we have a language section  that explains the  reasons for learning secondary ones, as well as just pointing out their main language.
14:34.17Bagginswwthere is usually a one sentence bit of lore in RPG for why races would learn certain secondary languages
14:34.42Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Satyr
14:35.05BagginswwThere is tough one, ;)
14:35.13Bagginswwsince satyrs now come from all those races :p
14:35.51Bagginswwsurprised that there aren't human satyrs.
14:37.01Bagginswwanycase I'd have to check the article again I think the "primary language" of former races" are actually secondary languages to Eredun
14:37.37Bagginswwso we could move those to secondary section, and add explanation that they come from Satyr's primary language in former life.
14:37.46Bagginswwin its own "language section"
14:38.28Tuqui-tuquiBibi`ouF, ah luvs j0o and your site!
14:38.39Tuqui-tuqui:D those ray mounts look badass ^_^
14:38.56Bagginswwray mount?
14:39.02Tuqui-tuquiyeah! :D
14:39.05Bagginswwlink
14:39.15Tuqui-tuquihttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=117.0
14:39.39Tuqui-tuquidruids also get exlcusive mounts :<
14:39.41Tuqui-tuquibah
14:39.53Tuqui-tuquiI wish there was a way to get exclusive mounts =\
14:40.11Bagginswwcool
14:40.13Tuqui-tuquieven though that would defeat the whole point of exclusivity
14:40.15Tuqui-tuqui-.-
14:40.25Bagginswwexclusive mounts?
14:40.36Bagginswwuh don't druids just have shape change
14:40.53Tuqui-tuquihttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/druidhorde.jpg
14:40.59Tuqui-tuquihttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/druidalliance.jpg
14:41.31Bibi`ouFactually
14:41.36Bagginswwalright who are the skyguarde?
14:41.45Bibi`ouFTerokkar faction
14:41.53Bibi`ouFThey're located north of skettis
14:41.57Bibi`ouFthey also have an outpost near Ogri'la
14:42.06Bagginswwyep those epic shape changes are cool
14:42.25Hobinheim|workBagginsww, w/e, sounds good
14:42.27Tuqui-tuquiThey dont look like shap changes
14:42.33Tuqui-tuquithey have reins =\
14:42.39Tuqui-tuquiit looks like they are mountable
14:42.45Tuqui-tuquioh wait
14:42.47Tuqui-tuquinvm :p
14:42.48Tuqui-tuquilol ^_^
14:43.04Bagginswwhowever they'll still have to do arena if they want the fastest mount in the game...
14:43.12Tuqui-tuquiyeah...
14:43.16Tuqui-tuquiand be top .05%
14:43.17Bagginswwif its true arena mount is 310% :p
14:43.25Tuqui-tuquiin other words... NEVER!
14:43.27Tuqui-tuquiBWAHHAHAHAAH
14:43.52Bagginswwuh as far as I know everyone gets a chance at that mount. People who get it probably slow down on their PVP LOL
14:44.00Bagginswwso others will be in the top .05
14:44.13Bagginswwand besides the PVP resets
14:44.20Bagginswwdoesn't it?
14:44.23Bagginswwevery 3 months or so
14:44.46Tuqui-tuquiI dont know
14:44.51Tuqui-tuquihow long has arena been out?
14:44.57Tuqui-tuquiand the season is still not over? -.-
14:45.01Bagginswwway I read it arena games is on a 3 month season or so
14:45.25Tuqui-tuquiooh :o
14:45.27Tuqui-tuquikk
14:45.29Bagginswwarena was a little late starting too
14:45.44Bagginswwa few weeks after release
14:46.24Bagginswwrelease was on the 16th of january?
14:46.44Bagginswwarena didn't start until 28th or so not sure
14:47.35Tuqui-tuquiohhhh
14:47.39winkillerit was early startin
14:47.51winkillertoo few already 70
14:48.24Bagginswwwell on my server the arena announcers didn't show up unil like 2-3 weeks after release
14:48.42winkilleryeah, that IS early
14:48.43Bagginswwbut there was something about glitches or crashes caused by them at the time
14:48.57winkillerlike a month to get to 70 would've been better
14:49.02Tuqui-tuquibah
14:49.13Bagginswwgetting to 70 wasn't that hard though
14:49.15Tuqui-tuquiproblem after season ends, another batch of new 70s are going to be comepeting for them
14:49.28winkillernot hard, but time consuming
14:49.36BagginswwI don't bother with it myself
14:49.40Bagginswwdon't have the time
14:49.46Psyker7arenas arn't time consuming.....
14:49.57Bagginswwit is for those that are hardcore :P
14:49.59Psyker71 hour a week and you got the games required
14:50.01Tuqui-tuquithey are if you wanna be on top
14:50.08Psyker7no - more games != higher rating
14:50.08Tuqui-tuquiwhich is whats required for the mount
14:50.22Psyker7winning 10 games and losing none is better than winning 90 and losing 10
14:52.13Bagginswwso its done by percentage
14:52.36Bagginswwnot score?
14:53.10Bagginswwanycase I'm off to my class, take care everyone.
14:55.38*** join/#wowwiki Lysistrata (n=yousuck@xdsl-81-173-249-116.netcologne.de)
14:56.24*** join/#wowwiki ClydeJr (i=86a3ff0d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-3035a7b2898a3334)
14:56.30*** mode/#wowwiki [+v ClydeJr] by ChanServ
14:57.44ClydeJrHuh, is this email authentication thing new?
15:00.29Kirkburn|afkyup
15:00.37Kirkburn|afkVandalism and spam protection :D
15:00.48Kirkburn|afkIt was already supposed to be on, too :P
15:00.59Kirkburn|afkAdys, you're an evil wiki killer, y'know
15:01.05Adys<3
15:01.18Hobinheim|workmediawiki installed at work!
15:01.24Kirkburn|afkYay for being able to read prefs btw
15:01.28Kirkburn|afkWhat else has changed?
15:01.40Tuqui-tuquiI cut my hair yesterday :D
15:01.49Tuqui-tuquidoes that count? :>
15:01.51Kirkburn|afkOn the wiki, you crazy person, you
15:01.58Tuqui-tuquioh... >.>
15:02.10Hobinheim|workughh e-mail validation :fap:
15:02.18KitanI cut my hare last night
15:02.20Kitanshaved it
15:02.36KitanKirk you iron fisted dictator btw
15:02.40Kitanman that guy was mad at you
15:03.22Hobinheim|workKirkburn|afk likes fisting?
15:03.55ClydeJryou shaved your rabbit?
15:05.05Kirkburn|afkKitan, ParatwaSS?
15:05.32Kirkburn|afkEveryone, go visit http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Settableall :)
15:07.40*** join/#wowwiki Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn)
15:07.40*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ
15:07.47winkillerbtw, where do I apply for RC patrol? or is that outdated?
15:08.01Kirkburn|afkOh, yeah, I forgot about that stuff
15:08.07Kirkburn|afkWhat's your name on the wiki?
15:10.46Kirkburn|afkAdys, also you mean paperdump killer :P
15:10.54Adyslol
15:10.55Adyssorry for that!
15:11.01Kirkburn|afkheh, np
15:11.01Adysit seems its causing load problems
15:11.03Adysat least for me
15:11.11Adysthe recent changes take ages to load the image
15:11.13Kirkburn|afkI believe you
15:11.21Adysand until its loaded i cant open anything else :/
15:11.26winkillerKirkburn|afk: Flotsam
15:12.08Kirkburn|afkYou're now a patroller
15:12.31Kirkburn|afkCan you go to your preferences and tick the penultimate box on Editing
15:12.44winkilleromw
15:12.53Kirkburn|afkAnyone else here not a patroller?
15:13.01dottedme
15:13.10winkiller[x] Mark edits I make as patrolled
15:13.11Hobinheim|workwhat's the difference between a sysop and a buereucrat again...
15:13.16Kirkburn|afkwinkiller, yup
15:13.28Kirkburn|afkHobinheim|work, the fact I can make people admins, bots, etc
15:13.41winkillerdone
15:13.47Kirkburn|afkdotted, done
15:14.24dotteddone
15:14.59Hobinheim|workisn't a sysop higher than a bureaucrat?
15:15.21dottedbrb
15:15.22Hobinheim|workn/m
15:15.26Hobinheim|workfound it
15:16.03Kirkburn|afkHobinheim|work, silly names, I know
15:16.17Hobinheim|workit's mediawiki's fault
15:16.24Kirkburn|afkYup
15:18.16Kirkburn|afkClydeJr, can you tick that option I mentioned too?
15:18.24Kirkburn|afkAnd dotted if you haven't already :P
15:18.45Kirkburn|afkPreferences --> Editing --> [x] Mark edits I make as patrolled
15:21.22*** join/#wowwiki norgul (n=joakim@ti211110a080-1235.bb.online.no)
15:21.24norgulhi
15:21.27Kirkburn|afkhullo
15:24.03*** join/#wowwiki Bleeter_ (n=Bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter)
15:24.15*** join/#wowwiki dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk)
15:24.32ClydeJrKirkburn, done.
15:24.39Kirkburn|afkClydeJr, thanks :)
15:24.54vlad_hrm wtf
15:24.55Kirkburn|afkI hope everyone is enjoying the newly readable preferences ;)
15:25.03Kirkburn|afkvlad_, wassup?
15:25.22vlad_was the wiki down for a while this morning?
15:25.26TecnoBratKirkburn|afk, wow, that Template_talk:Settableall ....
15:25.34Kirkburn|afkAye, Adys edited a popular template
15:25.43norgulit's so fun to play wow now
15:25.45Kirkburn|afkTecnoBrat, fun, eh :) I love abuse
15:25.45Adysaye
15:25.53TecnoBratKirkburn|afk, heh yea...
15:25.54norguli've critted 1588 with frostbolt :D
15:26.01vlad_ah, ok
15:26.07norgullvl 60
15:26.12vlad_I really wonder why that screws over mw so hard
15:26.26norgulmw?
15:26.29Kirkburn|afkIt recalculates every single bloody page :/
15:26.33Kirkburn|afkMediaWiki
15:26.46norgulah
15:26.50Kirkburn|afkFor some reason it doesn't do it on demand
15:27.03Kirkburn|afkDunno if that changes since 1.7, or if it's an option though
15:27.32vlad_it's supposed to add the pages to the work queue
15:27.39vlad_and then process them slowly
15:27.46Kirkburn|afkIt's not :P
15:27.52vlad_yeah :p
15:28.05Kirkburn|afkIt seems to cut out doing /anything/ else until the work is done
15:28.15Kirkburn|afkPriorities messed up?
15:28.57Kirkburn|afkAh, something called the Job queue I think?
15:29.03vlad_right
15:29.14Kirkburn|afkThere's some stuff about it on Wikimedia
15:29.25TecnoBratdid you guys upgrade from an old version of the wiki or something?
15:29.29Kirkburn|afkNot yet
15:29.59Kirkburn|afkvlad_, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Job_queue
15:30.09Kirkburn|afkMaybe the setting needs tweaking
15:30.17TecnoBratKnow if there is anyway to fix http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors? "1213: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (localhost)"
15:30.35vlad_oh
15:30.35vlad_http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Job_queue
15:30.39Kirkburn|afkYup, that one
15:30.39vlad_"one job per 500 operations"
15:30.42Kirkburn|afkTecnoBrat, fine for me
15:30.48TecnoBratKirkburn|afk, log out
15:30.55Kirkburn|afkYou previously misread it vlad_ ?
15:31.08vlad_and it runs one job per request
15:31.11vlad_TecnoBrat: hrm, sec
15:31.23Kirkburn|afkOoh, I see
15:31.28TecnoBrat:)
15:32.17Kirkburn|afkTecnoBrat, is that the only one you've found with that problem?
15:32.28TecnoBratonly one I have seen, yea
15:32.35vlad_that's very weird
15:32.45TecnoBratBut I haven't looked
15:32.54TecnoBratI just tried sending a friend their yesterday
15:33.07TecnoBratthere*
15:33.09Teomyrworks for me... is your browser caching it?
15:33.16TecnoBratTeomyr, you logged out?
15:33.23Teomyrnp
15:33.25Teomyrno
15:33.27norgul"Ice Block": This ability no longer makes mages immune to "Weakened Soul" from "Power Word: Shield". However, using this ability now causes "Hypothermia", making the mage unable to cast "Ice Block" again for 30 sec.
15:33.28TecnoBratlog out :P
15:33.33norgulWTF?
15:33.40TecnoBratit works fine when you are logged in.
15:33.40norgultaken from patchnote
15:33.49Hobinheim|workhey vlad_ :)
15:33.56Hobinheim|workhow did preferences get updated?
15:33.58Teomyrlol, right
15:34.06Hobinheim|workthrough what magic
15:34.07Teomyr<-- confused
15:34.13Kirkburn|afknorgul, that's a buff, not a nerf
15:34.18TecnoBratTeomyr, so am I, don't worry.
15:34.33Kirkburn|afkCSS update
15:34.33norgulok, phew
15:34.37norgulgot scared
15:34.54TecnoBratWell, it means you can't double iceblock now
15:35.03norgulmy understanding of english can be, ehm, fucked sometimes :/
15:35.17TecnoBratHow is it a buff? lol
15:35.28vlad_Hobinheim|work: I poked stuff
15:35.51Kirkburn|afkYou could previously Ice block faster than once every 30 seconds?
15:35.58TecnoBratYes
15:36.03Teomyrcold snap
15:36.05Teomyrcooldown reset
15:36.07TecnoBratIceblock, cold snap, ice block
15:36.17norgulcan't you do that anymore?
15:36.19Kirkburn|afkAh, then it's part nerf, part buff
15:36.30norgulfuck blizzard
15:36.31norgul:P
15:36.37winkilleroh, guildlist has a huge problem
15:36.37norguli hate them
15:36.39Teomyrthat's a nerf only
15:36.44norgulso?
15:36.50winkillerit requires all guilds to be in the new official format
15:36.54winkillerintrawiki...
15:36.58Kirkburn|afkOh, you're right, sorry, I'm the one misreading it
15:37.05norgulwhat's the point with cold snap when ice block still got some cooldown?
15:37.06TecnoBrathehe
15:37.40TecnoBratnorgul, 1) frostnova 2) the cooldown of iceblock is larger than 30 secs :)
15:38.03norgulcrap
15:38.17norgulmage is under power
15:38.46Kirkburn|afkSo anyway, I can't see why patch mirrors has a problem :/
15:39.24Kirkburn|afkI don't see any weird template usage or anything
15:39.40Kirkburn|afkI guess those who can't see it don't complain because they're not logged in :P
15:39.59ClydeJrI've gotten that same error message on other pages. I think its just the wiki burping when someone changes a big template
15:40.14vlad_it's fixed I think
15:40.35norguldruid deserves a big nerf
15:40.47norgulwarlock too
15:41.04Kirkburn|afkConfirmed, except ... why is the page using my last edit?
15:41.47winkillerKirkburn|afk: ok, /Foo_Bar is a guild site now. redirect to Foo_Bar_(Server_EU) or delete the original article?
15:41.49Kirkburn|afkAt the top I get "Template:Patch mirrors/Toc
15:41.49Kirkburn|afk"
15:42.15norgulwhat are you guys doing?
15:42.25Kirkburn|afkwiki stuff :)
15:42.30winkillerI personally am trying to clean up my server page
15:42.30norgulok, i see
15:42.42winkillerincluding the guild wiki entries
15:42.42Kirkburn|afkWhat do people see when they look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors *when logged out*
15:43.07norgulthought you were coding addons :P
15:43.09Kirkburn|afkIt's a subpage of the server?
15:43.22Kirkburn|afkNah, that goes on in #wowi-lounge, #wowace and elsewhere
15:43.34Psyker7winkiller - i made the guildlist template use the new policy because it is a policy.... the guild article should be at 'Guild:Guildname (Server (Locale))' - anything else should redirect to that page
15:43.39norgulok, i do some programming in C
15:44.01winkillerPsyker7: yeah, I know :) the question only was whether to delete or redirect :)
15:44.17Kirkburn|afkpoke poke poke What do people see when they look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors *when logged out*
15:44.20vlad_I'd even suggest Guild:NA/Servername/Guildname or somesuch
15:44.28vlad_Kirkburn|afk: it looks fine to me now
15:44.29norgulgotta play football
15:44.34norgulbuy folks
15:44.37Kirkburn|afksee ya
15:44.38norgulbye*
15:44.39norgullol
15:44.45Teomyrcya
15:44.51norgulsee ya
15:45.00Kirkburn|afkWeird, I'm trying refreshing the cache, but it's still showing my penultimate edit
15:45.01vlad_brb, need to get out of bed
15:45.11Hobinheim|worklol not out of bed yet?:
15:45.14Hobinheim|workhow do you compute from bed?
15:45.19Psyker7winkiller - as long as no other guild articles exist with that guilds name its ok to redirect to the correct page.... the content should be on the correct page however, with redirects to it, not the other way around.
15:45.24Psyker7just use the move button
15:45.25ClydeJrKirburn, logged out, I see the page with Template:Patch mirrors/Toc  at the top
15:45.31winkillerok
15:45.33Kirkburn|afkI wasn't until about 2 hours ago. That's somewhat worse though, since I'm way more than two hours ahead of vlad_ ...
15:45.38vlad_wait, what should it show?
15:45.54vlad_I don't see the sql error any more
15:45.55vlad_brb
15:45.57Kirkburn|afkIt should show the template, not a link to the template
15:46.01vlad_ah
15:46.23TecnoBratvlad_, what was the problem?
15:46.25ClydeJrbut when I log back in, it shows the template correctly
15:46.32Kirkburn|afkI tried changing {{:Patch mirrors/Toc}} to {Patch mirror/Toc))
15:46.40Kirkburn|afkThe latter causes the error, so I changed it back
15:46.50Kirkburn|afkHowever, when logged out, the wrong version shows :/
15:47.17TecnoBratseems like something funky with memcache?
15:47.21Kirkburn|afk(*causes the current problem, not the database error)
15:48.36Kirkburn|afkhaha! Fixed!
15:48.39Kirkburn|afkI made another edit
15:48.54Kirkburn|afkIt seems it wasn't caught up for some reason
15:49.32TecnoBratweird
15:49.47Hobinheim|workare <br/>s the only way of forcing a line break in wiki code
15:49.55Hobinheim|workfor adjacent lines
15:51.47Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Settableall
15:52.32Hobinheim|worki'm like geeking out at work hard core
15:52.38Hobinheim|workgetting to work on wikis again...
15:52.49Kirkburn|afklol
15:53.26Hobinheim|workok that needed to be handled goon style
15:53.28Hobinheim|worksass = boot
15:53.34TecnoBratI've always been unclear when it is cool to make a change to a page, and when you shouldn't
15:53.37Hobinheim|workwhat a waste...
15:53.49winkilleroh damn, I moved to a page without Guild: preceding.. move again or how do you fix that?
15:53.59Hobinheim|workwell the WP trend, even though we aren't WP, is to go ahead and make the change anyway and worry about it later
15:54.12Hobinheim|workwinkiller, just move it again or let one of us know if something needs to be deleted
15:55.11winkillerdepends whether the original url links to the moved links to the moved or directly to the rightr one..
15:57.32winkillerah got it
15:58.48winkillerGuild: is also for guild cooperations/groups of guilds, right?
15:59.30ClydeJrWoo, deadlock :P
16:01.01Kirkburn|afk*sigh* http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:ParatwaSS&curid=94822&diff=589831&oldid=587315&rcid=502235
16:02.08winkillercould some admin please delete http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Dominion_%28Aggramar_EU%29 and http://www.wowwiki.com/United_Forces_of_Aggramar_%28Aggramar_EU%29
16:02.14winkillerthese were the 2 moving mistakes I made.
16:02.15Adysreverted, kirk
16:02.43winkillernow Old_name redirects correctly to Guild:Old_name_(Aggramar_EU)
16:02.43Hobinheim|worki wish there was a provision to delete users...
16:02.58Hobinheim|workwinkiller, usually you badge something for speedy deletion and give a reason
16:03.13Hobinheim|workoh you want the original targets deleted?
16:03.20winkillerno
16:03.24winkillerI changed A->B
16:03.27Kirkburn|afkAdys, hmm, I wasn't going to revert it :P
16:03.27winkillerand bw as wrong
16:03.32winkillerso I moved B->C
16:03.39winkillernow it's redirect A->C (correct)
16:03.41winkillerand I need B deleted
16:03.46Hobinheim|workwhich one is B
16:03.48Adyswhy kirk? I was about to block him :P
16:03.50Hobinheim|workthe ones you linked?
16:03.53winkillerthose 2 I posted
16:03.57Kirkburn|afkDon't give him that pleasure!
16:04.01winkillerwithout Guild:
16:04.12winkillerI'm still learning :P
16:04.26Kirkburn|afkAdys, if he's pissy about he asking for reasons, that's his problem, not ours :)
16:04.42Adyswth, I thought it was someone else
16:04.54AdysBah
16:05.17TecnoBratFWIW, he should of asked .. hell .. I hear that wowwiki has a irc channel setup, where its easy to dicuss possible changes you want to make
16:05.21Kirkburn|afkAdys, nvm
16:05.23TecnoBratcould be a rumor though.
16:05.26Kirkburn|afkI added back his comment
16:05.35AdysWas about to do that >.>
16:05.44AdysBah kirk!
16:05.54Kirkburn|afkAnnoys me that he called it the "us Wikipedia"
16:05.55TeomyrTecnoBrat: wtf, where on earth did you hear about that??!!1
16:06.11Kirkburn|afkIt's not the bloody American wikipedia, it's /English/
16:06.46Kirkburn|afkThe US wikipedia is Conservapedia :P
16:06.53TecnoBratlol
16:07.12TecnoBratTeomyr, I think its a rumor :P
16:07.24Teomyr:D
16:07.34Kirkburn|afkCrazy talk
16:07.37AdysKirkburn|afk: checked the undocumented changes since this morning.?
16:07.47TecnoBratAdys, they are updated?
16:07.50Kirkburn|afkWhy the hell would I want to talk to the users?
16:07.54Adysyes tecno
16:07.58Adysmoved and updated
16:07.59TecnoBratsweet
16:08.00Kirkburn|afkAnd moved
16:08.11AdysGear matching system undocumented made me lol
16:08.14Kirkburn|afkheh, so yeah, I did see
16:09.05Kirkburn|afkOnly prelim notes, though, might have been a last minute thing?
16:09.17Kirkburn|afkKinda like forgetting to add the Black Temple though, I guess :P
16:09.28Adyshaha
16:09.51TecnoBrathow do they know that is even in? ...
16:09.55Kirkburn|afkOh, wait, we forgot to mention, we took about the hunter class and added evil bunnies.
16:10.00Adysthey said it on forums
16:10.06AdysSaw how I updated 1.9.0 patchnotes too?! =)
16:10.07Kirkburn|afk*out
16:10.14Kirkburn|afkI did, you freak
16:10.18Adyshahah
16:10.27TecnoBrat"Stealthed elite Roof Stalkers have been added to the roofs of Orgrimmar."
16:10.29TecnoBrathahahaha
16:10.34winkilleryay. the guildlist template rocks
16:10.49Kirkburn|afkAdys, I edited the beta patch notes 2 days ago :P
16:10.57Adysfreak
16:11.01Adyscan I kick you?
16:11.05Kirkburn|afkThat is, patch 0.6 --> 0.12
16:11.07AdysIn ze bells!
16:11.17*** kick/#wowwiki [Adys!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn|afk (Not if I kick you first)
16:11.18*** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr)
16:11.18*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ
16:11.35*** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn|afk!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (l2autorejoin)
16:11.35*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn|afk (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
16:11.35*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn|afk] by ChanServ
16:11.42*** kick/#wowwiki [Adys!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn|afk (Noob)
16:11.43*** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr)
16:11.43*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ
16:11.46Tuqui-tuqui...
16:12.00*** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn|afk!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (doing instance, i cant kick too fast)
16:12.00*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn|afk (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
16:12.00*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn|afk] by ChanServ
16:12.09*** kick/#wowwiki [Adys!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn|afk (Then don't kick at all!)
16:12.10*** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr)
16:12.10*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ
16:12.23*** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn|afk!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (Why not?)
16:12.23*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn|afk (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
16:12.23*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn|afk] by ChanServ
16:12.41*** kick/#wowwiki [Adys!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn|afk (Cause I said so, and you're my bitch)
16:12.42*** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr)
16:12.42*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ
16:12.43Hobinheim|workoh someone changed my user page... are you here on irc person
16:12.53Adysthis is silly :P
16:12.54Hobinheim|workwow...
16:12.59Kirkburn|afkAdys is silly
16:13.12*** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn|afk!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (DONT CALL ME SILLY!)
16:13.12*** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn|afk (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
16:13.12*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn|afk] by ChanServ
16:13.30Adysakfk asec
16:13.40*** kick/#wowwiki [Adys!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn|afk (afk a sec)
16:13.41*** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-119-238.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr)
16:13.41*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ
16:14.04Kirkburn|afkSoo, anyway, what's up Hob?
16:14.22Hobinheim|workKirkburn|afk, nothing
16:14.31Hobinheim|workjust looking for the person on irc so it's easier to discuss
16:14.47Kirkburn|afkNah, he's not here afaik
16:14.54Kirkburn|afkWe need to get more people on IRC
16:15.06Hobinheim|worki made a change that didn't match the boilerplate so i was just saying that the article is so short following the boilerplate makes it look silly
16:15.21Hobinheim|worka veritable soiree if you will
16:15.25Hobinheim|worklike the snooty blood elf party
16:15.30Kirkburn|afklol
16:15.43Hobinheim|workwe can serve wine and lynx meat and bloodthistle petals
16:15.43Hobinheim|workand get high together
16:17.35Kirkburn|afkheh
16:17.45Kirkburn|afkWe're all too stoned to reply
16:19.38Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Join_the_IRC_channel.2C_slackers
16:25.30*** join/#wowwiki Royal (n=m@cp291458-b.landg1.lb.home.nl)
16:27.24AdysPreferences are still fugly :P
16:27.37AdysBut we can edit it now right?
16:27.41Adysor temporary solution
16:28.13Hobinheim|workprobably temporary
16:31.21Adysbtw
16:31.29Adysif its editable
16:31.54Adysdoes that mean we can fix http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Noarticletext without the ugly hax?
16:34.50*** join/#wowwiki Gryphen (n=gryphon@mail.alexdevco.com)
16:34.50*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Gryphen] by ChanServ
16:34.52AdysKirkburn|afk: moo
16:35.00Kirkburn|afkBing bong
16:35.05Gryphenquack
16:35.12Adysdoes that mean we can fix http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Noarticletext without the ugly hax?
16:35.43Kirkburn|afkTry it :)
16:36.33Adysdont make me do that sweety
16:36.36AdysI suck at css
16:40.21Kirkburn|afkFailure! http://www.wowwiki.com/Bobs
16:40.46Hobinheim|workwhoever was asking to delete the redirects... i did
16:40.53Kirkburn|afkReverted, we can fix it later
16:46.41PougeeKirkburn just one more question. Did you level up with the succubus?
16:46.57PougeeOr do the Voidy + Affliction
16:47.04Kirkburn|afkNope, VW
16:47.08Kirkburn|afkAnd demo
16:47.19AdysHobinheim|work: the template:spell ones?
16:47.19Kirkburn|afkAlways been demo, always vw until TBC
16:47.46PougeeTBC?
16:48.45Kirkburn|afkBurning Crusade
16:50.02Pougeehow has tbc changed things
16:50.32Kirkburn|afkAdded the felguard!
16:51.17winkilleractually no
16:51.24winkillerit was one patch before tbc :P
16:51.40winkillerand with 10/41/0 or such locks were even more imba
16:52.03Hobinheim|workhuh?
16:52.11Hobinheim|workAdys, no, the two guild redriects
16:52.17Adysah k
16:53.31Pougeeohh ok
16:53.49Pougeeso you just voidy and dotted untill you got the felguard?
16:53.58Kirkburn|afkYup
16:54.27winkillerHobinheim|work: thanks, saw it
16:57.06Hobinheim|afkvoidwalker = demo pve pet
16:57.22Hobinheim|afksuccubus = affliction pve pet
16:57.27Hobinheim|afkuntil mana starts becoming an issue
16:58.49Kirkburn|afkCairenn just linked this :) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5fe_1176635740
16:58.50PougeeIve found the voidwalker as an demonologist pet doesnt do much damage
16:59.00Pougeeit just tanks
16:59.07Hobinheim|afkPougee, it's not a damage pet; exactly
16:59.27Cairennthis one still wins best "article" of the day, in my book: http://www.brainsnap.com/national/518/jack_thompson_a_person_of_interest_in_va_tech_shooting
16:59.58PougeeI cant understand why you would run a voidwalker with an weak affliction tree
17:01.07Kirkburn|afkHaving a VW is like having a low powered tank in your group
17:01.26Kirkburn|afkGreat at keeping aggro
17:01.32Kirkburn|afkCairenn, lol, yeah :)
17:02.54Gryphenim sure you saw the JT Kotaku article?
17:02.56Hobinheim|afkaww so insulting....
17:03.15Bibi`ouFout of control sewer video on ... live leak ?
17:03.17Bibi`ouFinteresting.
17:03.22Hobinheim|afkPougee, you can't understand?
17:03.28Hobinheim|afkas in someone's doing it? and you're like what the christ?
17:04.31Hobinheim|afki'll copy the wowwiki layout and impress my coworkers
17:04.34Hobinheim|afkthanks Kirkburn|afk!!!
17:05.12PougeeI just thought spec'ing into demonolgy you would use a more damage based minion other than the voidwalker and relying on dots
17:05.24Pougeepre felguard of course
17:07.17Hobinheim|afkin demonology, you do whatever helps you get the job done
17:07.32Hobinheim|afksometimes you tank (imp / succ), sometimes you don't (vw, felh, felg)
17:07.42Hobinheim|afkdemonology's strength is its ability to adapt
17:08.36*** join/#wowwiki hendricius (n=hendrici@e182067003.adsl.alicedsl.de)
17:08.48Hobinheim|afkimp is good for parties or if you have no shards
17:08.51Hobinheim|afkvw is good for solo pve
17:09.07Hobinheim|afksucc is good for cc against humanoids or maxing out your dmg
17:09.12hendriciushey !
17:09.20Hobinheim|afkfelhunter is good for neutralizing different things, melee, magic, stealth
17:09.22hendriciusI have a question regarding the WoWwiki style
17:09.30Hobinheim|afkfelguard is the vw's successor, for the most part
17:09.31hendriciusHas it been made yourself or downloaded somewhere ?
17:09.42Hobinheim|afki think it was made in-house
17:10.04Pougeeawesome thanks again Hobinheim
17:10.14Pougeethats the info Ive been searching for
17:10.59*** join/#wowwiki Sting-Ray_ZA (n=bob@dustpuppy.is.co.za)
17:11.01Teomyrhendricius: it's a modified version of the default monobook style, as far as i know
17:11.21Adys19:09:08 Keli'dan the Breaker's Fire Nova hits you for 2486 Fire damage. (5038 resisted) (2553 absorbed)
17:11.22Adyswee
17:12.10*** join/#wowwiki lauz (n=Random@124.177.119.8)
17:12.21lauzi need halp
17:12.27Sting-Ray_ZAGreetings Fellow Wowwikians... I thought it about time I joined the fray here on IRC...
17:12.41Hobinheim|afkTeomyr, bingo. it's still very monobook, forgot that part
17:13.05lauzdespite the pronounciation being listed on WoW Wiki, I am still trying to prove that c'thun's name is pronounce like Ka'thoon rather than See'thun
17:13.17TeomyrSting-Ray_ZA: welcome :)
17:14.59Teomyrlauz: that might be correct, though i don't know how to prove it either. internally, c'thun seems to be called "Kathune"
17:15.41Teomyrwow, 16x antialiasing
17:16.52lauzim sick of people saying see-thun
17:16.53lauzmakes me cry
17:17.10Hobinheim|afki'm sick of people in general, v:(v
17:17.49AdysAye Kathune
17:18.03Adysthats why i laughed at the warlock voidwalker named "Kathuune"
17:18.13Teomyr19:16:27: Loading model: Creature\Bodyofkathune\bodyofkathune.m2
17:18.38Adysy
17:22.20AdysHobinheim|afk: check Fang of Vashj
17:22.23BagginswwHobinheim were you able to update the racebox, while I was gone?
17:22.27Adysfor short articles it's like that it should be
17:23.07BagginswwCthun, makes me think of Cthulu
17:23.53Adysns :p
17:24.45Hobinheim|afkBagginsww, i didn't know i was supposed ot?
17:24.59Bagginswwahh well you talked about making it conditional
17:25.04BagginswwI like that idea
17:25.05Hobinheim|afkAdys: :(
17:25.14Hobinheim|afkoh i thought you knew how to do it :)
17:25.14BagginswwI don't know anything about that sort of thing
17:25.23Hobinheim|afklook at questbox's code for an example
17:25.27Bagginswwnah I'm lore junky, not a tech hound :)
17:25.27Hobinheim|afkor just do the edit and show me
17:25.42Hobinheim|afkadys, i don't like the article now...
17:25.46BagginswwI no almost nothing about template construction
17:25.48Hobinheim|afkok seriously afk
17:25.51Hobinheim|afklunch time!
17:25.55Adysthen you dont like about 5 000 articles
17:26.01Adysbecause they are about all like that
17:26.07BagginswwTeomyr, are the graphic elements from old hellfire still in the game?
17:26.13Adysno
17:26.19Adysthey were removed in 1.12 i believe
17:26.33Bagginswwahh, none of those cool mushroom? :(
17:26.50Adysaye, but i can reinstall my wow 1.1.2
17:27.00AdysI got most major patches too
17:27.03TeomyrBagginsww: old hellfire?
17:27.16AdysTeomyr: the one southwest of EK
17:27.17Bagginswwya I think it was going to be a battleground or cavern's of time locatin
17:27.23Adysooohhh
17:27.29AdysThis one was never implemented
17:27.42Bagginswwit had red mushroom forests like in Warcraft II
17:28.05Bagginswwbut it was after the destruction of draenor
17:28.15Bagginswwyou could see rifts and stuff
17:28.22Adyshm
17:28.27Adysdo you have screenshots?
17:28.31Bagginswwsome of the areas and graphics are still there in game, but htey switched them.
17:28.34Bagginswwadys I might somewhere
17:28.49Adystry and find them, because its odd, it never existed ingame afaik
17:29.00Adysunless you are actually talking about the EK-Outland thing
17:29.01BagginswwIt did
17:29.08BagginswwI used wowmapviewer
17:29.14Adysthen it can only be that
17:29.19Bagginswwit was actually on the same map file as eastern kingdoms
17:29.26Adysyes its this one :P
17:29.33Adysi dont remember mushroom forests
17:29.33Teomyri don't get it :P
17:29.34Bagginswwya
17:29.40AdysTeomyr you eejit
17:29.50Bagginswwwell their was like one forest
17:29.56Adysthe outland part of EK map they removed in 1.12 ish
17:30.10Bagginswwjust a bunch of random mushrooms styles  in one section
17:30.16Bagginswwthey were cool looking
17:30.18Adysill check
17:30.41Teomyraaah, you mean the thing that was once supposed to be outlands?
17:30.47AdysOutland*
17:30.51AdysYes
17:31.25Bagginswwya well it was definitely hellfire penninsula
17:31.45Bagginswwoveral map design didn't change much with the current one. although I think it was flipped
17:32.03Bagginswwthat dead pit lord skeleton was in the south instead of the north
17:32.30Bagginswwstrangest thing was the Silithid tunnels heh heh
17:33.17Bagginswwanycase adys I have wowmap viewer still, I can always take more screenshots if I install the old version of the game
17:33.28Adysno need
17:33.33AdysI got it aswell
17:33.36Bagginswwcool
17:33.43Adysi thought you were talking about another hellfire
17:34.08BagginswwI think that one was originally going to be used for cavern';s of time event
17:34.16BagginswwI can't confirm that though
17:34.16Adysi dont think the one supposed to be hellfire peninsula BG was ever implemented in game
17:34.23Adysdont think so tbh
17:34.30Adysi think it was the first works of Outland
17:34.53Bagginswwwell almost every currently ingame caverns of time event has been in game earlier
17:35.03Bagginswwold hillsbrad, black morass
17:35.07Adysyeah but in a separate instance
17:35.21Bagginswwwell they were on caverns of time map
17:35.30Bagginswwat least at one time
17:35.33Adysit would actually make sense they'd start working on Outland from EK
17:35.35TeomyrBagginsww: there are some graphic elements from old outlands
17:35.42Bagginswwya, that's what I was wondering
17:35.46TeomyrBagginsww: like those floating mushrooms
17:35.49TeomyrBagginsww: http://vs157092.vserver.de/wow/outland_floating_shroom02.png
17:35.51*** join/#wowwiki Laraul (i=dustin@ip68-105-130-166.tc.ph.cox.net)
17:35.53Adysoooh
17:35.56Adysyeah i remember now
17:35.59BagginswwIfloating trees too
17:36.05BagginswwI think we should categorize them
17:36.13Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoW_Expansion_2 do something like that for htem
17:36.15Adysthere were a shitload of them
17:36.27Adyshm not sure about this page btw
17:36.37Adysits considered unreleased datamined content
17:36.40Bagginswwtrue
17:37.00Bagginswwalthough I think it looks better the way they did it rather than having them on blue screen :p
17:37.17Adys:P it did ^^
17:37.26Bagginswwthat was worse :p
17:37.45BagginswwI hope these doodads get used someday :(
17:38.02Bagginswwthe floating alliance pine trees were funny
17:38.40Adysyeah
17:38.43Bagginswwanycase, the old outland map was kind of linear
17:38.43Adysmeh
17:38.46Adysso much content
17:38.50Adysthey still have to release
17:38.52AdysUndermine
17:38.53AdysGilneas
17:38.56AdysStormwind Jail
17:38.56Bagginswwya
17:38.59Adyspfff
17:39.10Bagginswwstormwind "Vault"
17:39.35Adysheh yeah
17:39.48Adysdont think they'll ever release it ://
17:40.07Bagginswwas I recall old outland hellfire was surrounded by mountains, except for edges with rifts.
17:40.24Bagginswwit really had a battleground/instance feel to it IMO
17:41.20Bagginswwwhich is why when I heard that, third caverns of time event was going to be Hellfire, I thought they were just going to recycle that
17:43.36Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/M%C3%B8%C3%B8%C3%B1_G%C3%BB%C3%A5rd yep retarded article, like that will ever get hits, LOL....
17:43.49Bagginswwit won't show up on a moon guard search LOL
17:45.58Bagginswwanyone have site they'd be willing to host any sound files, I make?
17:46.23Bagginswwright now that would mainly be Eredun phrases from Warcraft III
17:47.35Kirkburn|afkAdys, you caused ParatwaSS to accuse me of things I didn't do :/
17:47.49Adysgief link plx
17:47.58Kirkburn|afkSee RC
17:48.00Kirkburn|afkTop
17:48.05Adysok
17:48.10Adyssec
17:50.44Adys<sigh>
17:51.00Adysthis guy won't be a big loss.
18:02.08Kirkburn|afkMade some fairly large changes to Lasy Vashj :)
18:02.11Kirkburn|afk*Lady
18:02.29Kirkburn|afkSo, what for our next FA?
18:03.30the_squidlol
18:03.36the_squidi just caught a goldenscale vendorfish
18:05.14*** join/#wowwiki Skosiris (n=sdgdsg@modemcable244.155-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
18:05.18*** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ
18:07.08Bagginswwand a vendorfish is what?
18:07.27dotteda fish to vendor
18:09.39Bagginswwahh
18:09.47Bagginswwso its a grey that's worth alot?
18:10.02the_squidits worth 6g
18:10.08the_squidi laughed.
18:10.13Bagginswwwow
18:10.27the_squidhttp://www.thottbot.com/i27442
18:10.30Bagginswwworth more than many trash greens
18:12.39AdysKirkburn|afk: Illidan!
18:12.47Adysafk a bit :)
18:13.27BagginswwIllidan's new appearance is based off old warcraft III concept art for demonhunters.
18:13.45Bagginswwall those runic tattoos.
18:13.58TecnoBratHmm, so if I stole Gyphon's user page, think anyone would care?
18:14.07TecnoBrat:P
18:14.44Kirkburn|afkWell ... Gryphen?
18:14.45Gryphennope, dont think anyone would :)
18:14.50Kirkburn|afkheh
18:14.58TecnoBrathehe
18:15.03Kirkburn|afkI do! Damn you, TecnoBrat!
18:15.05TecnoBratits a nice layout :)
18:16.00dottedif i stole Kirkburns signature, think anyone would care?
18:16.02Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:KTSUNSTRIDER.jpg needs a bigger pic :p
18:16.09Gryphenthanks, i sort of stole it from the old main page
18:16.11dottedoh wait i already did :p
18:16.12Kirkburn|afkdotted, change the colours at least :P
18:16.28dottedhmm
18:16.30Kirkburn|afkI command over yellow to orange, go for another run :)
18:16.38dottedsure 1 sec
18:19.19TecnoBratdotted, I stole it already, and editted it :P
18:21.22*** join/#wowwiki Kaos_ (n=Kaos@vir78-1-82-230-45-137.fbx.proxad.net)
18:21.32dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Dotted/Sig
18:21.51Kirkburn|afkCool, text is a bit dark on it though
18:25.00dottedwill have to do for now :p
18:26.09Kirkburn|afkOkay, done lots of stuff to the Illidan article
18:27.45Bibi`ouF[20:15:55] <Bagginsww> http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:KTSUNSTRIDER.jpg needs a bigger pic :p
18:27.49Bibi`ouFingame shot or wowmodelviewer ?
18:30.50Kirkburn|afkThat shot is in-game
18:31.02Kirkburn|afkOh right, no, no modelviewer shot yet
18:31.30*** join/#wowwiki Hobinheim|afk (n=Hobinhei@207-38-224-165.c3-0.43d-ubr9.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com)
18:34.37TecnoBratLOL wtf ..
18:34.37TecnoBrat{{clr}}
18:34.44TecnoBratoops, http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Korgath_US
18:35.05TecnoBrat"Several other guilds in Naxxramas include" "(H) Team Handulous (Ragnaros)"
18:35.15TecnoBratthats so awesome
18:35.49Bibi`ouFKirkburn|afk : just asked if a modelviewer shot will be fine as a bigger one
18:35.49TecnoBratwow wtf, they know all about my guild
18:35.51abecxdidnt you know ragnaros was a summonable boss in naxx? ;p
18:37.34TecnoBratAre guild pages supposed to be "Guild Name" or "Guild:Guild Name"?
18:37.54TecnoBratOr even "Guild Name (Guild)"?
18:38.54Kirkburn|afkBibi`ouF, yes, I'm saying a model viewer shot is not allowed (yet)
18:39.05Bibi`ouFoh ok
18:44.41AdysServer:Servername CC/Guildname
18:44.53Adysshould have always been that way tbh
18:45.45TecnoBratAdys, doesnt look like it is that way though :(
18:45.58Adysnah its not the implemented way
18:46.04Adysatm its Guildname
18:46.11Adysor Guildname (Guild) if disambig needed
18:47.23Gryphenhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Writing/Guild_pages
18:47.35GryphenGuild:
18:49.29Kirkburn|afkBtw, I'm going to suggest Illidan for the next FA, can people take a look at it and see if they cna improve it further?
18:49.58Gryphenrevert all Kirkburn edits and it will be perfect
18:57.44norgulIce block and frost nove nerf -_-
18:58.18Kirkburn|afkPerfect :P
18:58.29Gryphensomeone say something?
18:58.40norgulwhy nerf mage?
18:59.12Kirkburn|afkBecause certain aspects of a class need it?
18:59.21Kirkburn|afkDouble ice blocking is a bit too much, surely
18:59.22norgulhmm
18:59.26norgulno
18:59.33norgulnot really
18:59.39norgulthat's so unfair
18:59.58Kirkburn|afkWhat, to have an invulnerability option?
19:00.03norgul30 sec cd after cold snap?
19:00.24Adysno
19:00.25Adysice block
19:00.30Kirkburn|afkWhat Adys said
19:00.45Adysdouble iceblocking is unfair in arenas only
19:00.50norgulice block has got 30 sec cd after cold snap?
19:00.52Adysfor the rest mage survivability is fucked up
19:00.55Kirkburn|afkYou can still double ice block, but 30 secs apart
19:01.06norgulLOL
19:01.20AdysNorgul: when you use ice block you get a 30 sec "forbearance-like" debufrf
19:01.22Kirkburn|afkFrom the beginning of the first one, I would have thought
19:01.24norgulwhat the hell is the point with cold snap, then?
19:01.29Adysso its actually 20 sec
19:01.30Kirkburn|afkHow long does ice block last?
19:01.35Adys10 sec
19:01.45Kirkburn|afkYeah, so it just forces 20 seconds between ice blocks
19:01.58Adysits not that bad, they could have made it worse
19:02.02norgulbut what's the point with cold snap?
19:02.03Adysthough its a silly pve nerf
19:02.20norguli hate blizzard
19:02.20Adysthey should just fix the class
19:02.28norguli'll stop playing :P
19:02.39Adysdo so then, blizzard made this game
19:02.51Adysblizzard made you play this game, if you had fun with it its because of blizzard
19:02.59norgulmages are not at the top on the list who they need to nerf -_-
19:03.08AdysNo
19:03.24norgulWarriors are at the bottom, then mages
19:03.27Adysits not because they suck at balancing class that they actually want to nerf mages
19:04.17AdysDoes blizz suck at balancing PvP? Yes. Does blizz suck at balancing PvE? More or less. Does blizz suck at integrating PvP and PvE into a single game? YES. But Blizz made this game and if you still play it there has to be a reason
19:04.22Adysend of the line for that
19:04.24norgulwithout ice block, mage is 50% weaker
19:04.38Adysyou still have ice block >.>
19:04.44norgulit's fucked
19:04.47norguli do
19:04.52norgulbut cold snap
19:05.04norguli only use it in emergency
19:05.09Adysno its not, cold snap is actually still useful to reset frost nova etc
19:05.17Adysyou have to use a different tactic in arenas thats all
19:05.20Adysit sucks, yes
19:05.28Adysi agree, im a mage and i think its unneeded
19:05.35norguli use ice block in AOE
19:05.39Adysbut theres no reason to say they killed the mage
19:05.44Adysthey did that a while ago.
19:05.52norguloh?
19:05.54norgultell me
19:06.16Adysthey did that in 2.0.1
19:06.30Adysmages were fine for two major patches, 1.11 and 1.12
19:06.38norgulwhat kind of nerf?
19:06.51AdysWhat nerf? I didnt talk about nerf
19:07.04Adysthey killed the class, that doesnt necessarily mean they nerfed it
19:07.06norgulwarrdoh
19:07.33norgulkilled without nerf? :S
19:07.34Adysthey screwed pve balancing all over
19:07.39Kirkburn|afkum, /me pokes the wiki
19:07.42norgulok
19:07.50norguli'm off
19:07.52norgulbye
19:07.52Adysmages were always meant to be one of the first class in pve
19:07.54Adyscya
19:09.03Adysthats the bad side about an irc chan, you cant help it you'll get the usual forum whiners anyways >.>
19:09.04Adyssigh
19:15.31*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn|afk -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Suggested project: edit and organise class pages | Nominate a Featured Article today! WW:FA
19:15.56Gryphenorganize
19:16.03Gryphen:p
19:20.23Hobinheim|afkwhat's the point of iceblock
19:20.23Kirkburn|afkJust updated WW:DNP
19:20.27Hobinheim|afkit's like the chicken button?
19:20.29Kirkburn|afkGryphen, nevah
19:20.42*** join/#wowwiki EvilJohn (n=eviljohn@67.110.71.22.ptr.us.xo.net)
19:20.43*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Hobinheim] by ChanServ
19:31.34*** join/#wowwiki Bibi` (n=bibi@AVelizy-151-1-86-109.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr)
19:43.33*** join/#wowwiki ClydeJr (i=86a3ff0d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-e679847f62f8893f)
19:50.23*** join/#wowwiki ClydeJr (i=86a3ff0d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-c9f028e2aeb28eda)
19:50.46*** mode/#wowwiki [+v ClydeJr] by ChanServ
19:58.47*** join/#wowwiki Lysistrata (n=yousuck@xdsl-213-196-230-74.netcologne.de)
20:14.31*** join/#wowwiki Industrial (n=tom@a80-100-243-86.adsl.xs4all.nl)
20:15.47IndustrialI was wondering, are there any (thus "Free", I guess) questing guide on wowwiki? I dont mean Information that eg wowhead provides but a guide to say Duskwood or 20-30 Alliance or even how to grind up a tradeskill
20:16.15IndustrialI can Imagine that this is very valuable information to the more experienced players that make na alt or just for people that dont feel like reading quest texts
20:16.44IndustrialOfcourse I tried googling but yeah;
20:16.44Gryphenhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guides
20:16.51IndustrialBUY JOANAS LEVELING UIDE NOW
20:16.53Industrialetc
20:17.47Industrialhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Power_leveling
20:17.47Industriali
20:17.49Industrialic*
20:18.46IndustrialIm asking this because im creating a path to walk through for myself for Duskwood (I started at level 26 and m skipping some stuff tho)
20:18.56Kirkburn|afkzomg Industrial
20:19.10Industrialbut unless i actually _draw_ it im going to lose it and ill have to look it all up again :P
20:19.18IndustrialKirkburn|afk: w0t
20:19.24Kirkburn|afkHullo
20:19.32Industrialliekhainstuff
20:19.58Kirkburn|afkI remember a website had a an alliance guide, I forget which, one sec
20:20.29Kirkburn|afkTadaa! http://www.wow-pro.com/
20:21.04Industrialthx
20:21.18Kirkburn|afkSpecifically: http://www.wow-pro.com/node/603
20:22.01ClydeJrAnytime I hear someone talking about guides, they always mention wow-pro.com, specifically the guides by Jame or Jaime or something like that
20:23.35Kirkburn|afkJame, yeah
20:24.20TecnoBratWow, like every guild page is almost named incorrectly
20:24.42IndustrialIt wont be much but if you want I can make some starters area powerleveling guides (the ones listed 1-6 on http://www.wowwiki.com/Power_leveling)
20:25.09Kirkburn|afkTecnoBrat, policy only just changed
20:25.26Kirkburn|afkTecnoBrat, will be bot fun, methinks :P
20:25.29TecnoBratKirkburn|afk, ahhh that explains it
20:25.45TecnoBratI just edited the Korgath US page to make all of the links follow the policy
20:25.54TecnoBratThere was only one guild with a page tho :P
20:27.17Kirkburn|afkIndustrial, yeah, why not :)
20:27.41Industrialk
20:29.27Kirkburn|afkThis going anywhere? http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Hobinheim/Quest_Guide
20:29.41Hobinheimno
20:29.48Hobinheimon phone w stpuid nank
20:29.51Hobinheimbank
20:29.55Hobinheimy wuts up
20:30.16Kirkburn|afkWell, can it be used?
20:30.33Hobinheimsec
20:31.10Kirkburn|afk(would be good for http://www.wowwiki.com/Power_leveling )
20:32.40Hobinheimno it wouldn't actualy
20:32.44Hobinheimthat guide is very...scenic
20:32.49Hobinheimit has every quest that i could find
20:32.56Hobinheimjoana even found one i skipped =(
20:33.00Hobinheimanyway, point is...
20:33.08Hobinheimpeople almost always want speed leveling guides
20:33.23Hobinheimand although it was tailored for convenience, in no way is it a speed guide
20:33.30Hobinheimi dunno what to do really
20:34.53*** join/#wowwiki Kitan (i=a158ff8b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-20e8aca8c0960ae0)
20:35.00KitanSweetness!
20:35.05KitanI'm back
20:35.07*** join/#wowwiki Skyfire (n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
20:35.15Kirkburn|afkHullo Kitan, Skyfire
20:35.24Skyfire<- is getting his lazy ass on irc.
20:35.27Kirkburn|afkHobinheim, but it's so nice
20:35.29Skyfire:D
20:35.38Hobinheimaww Kirkburn|afk, thx
20:36.06*** join/#wowwiki Kitan (i=a158ff8b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-8e93d59e1c9ad8a5)
20:36.12Kitanum... back again?
20:36.12Kirkburn|afkKitan, what happened?
20:36.13Kitanheh
20:36.27KitanI was stupid and hit back on the page launching the irc proxy
20:36.30Kitanto go back to the wiki
20:36.32Kirkburn|afkSkyfire, we just can't get rid of you, can we ;)
20:36.39Kirkburn|afkKitan, nice work
20:37.05Skyfire:)
20:37.37ClydeJrGlad you saw my note, Kitan
20:38.38Kitanyeah thanks ClydeJr
20:38.54Kitanspamming "Recent Changes" looking for that dumb bot is boring
20:39.07Gryphenbot should be gone
20:39.13Kitansweet
20:39.21KitanI check for other stuff too
20:39.21Kitan:)
20:39.27Skyfirelol
20:39.47Kirkburn|afkBagginsww, LotRO has got a pretty good review from CVG - 9.2
20:42.48Skyfirerage's reply to "get on irc, slackers" - "I will deign to respond when this firestorm of exams is over. Sometimes, I can't help but wonder if Kil'jaeden is secretly trying to sabotage us." sounds liek an excuse :)
20:42.49Kirkburn|afkFrom users, it's got an average of 8.2, but those can't really be trusted
20:42.49*** join/#wowwiki Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)
20:42.49*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ
20:43.23Kirkburn|afkLol, I didn't say users of what... users of Metacritic
20:43.31Skyfireook, here's a cloth bonus that's worth absolutely nothing
20:43.45Skyfire(2) Set: Reduces melee damage taken by 5.
20:43.49Skyfire-_-
20:44.01Skyfireas if i plan on standing around to be beaten on
20:44.30Ziconskyfire: What set?
20:44.47SkyfireThe Unyielding
20:44.51Skyfirethe tailoring set
20:45.04Skyfireonly a two piece set too :/
20:45.14ClydeJrMaybe its meant to be 5%
20:45.24ZiconThe hell? That's ... stupid.
20:45.57ZiconApparently for PvP use, but still.
20:46.19Skyfireyeah...
20:46.29Skyfirenice resilience, i guess... more of a lock item, tbh :/
20:46.38Hobinheimy33t!!!
20:46.45Skyfireorly>!
20:46.48Skyfire?!*
20:46.48TekkubAdys, I like Hob's version... http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Fang_of_Vashj&diff=prev&oldid=589660
20:47.02Tekkubdon't overdo a page that has no real info
20:47.03Skyfireblgh
20:47.03Tekkub:P
20:47.15Kitanwhoa!
20:47.20Hobinheimtekkub, how do you know these things
20:47.24Hobinheimdo you like... stalk our RCs?
20:47.37TekkubI was going to do exactly that to that page, just never did
20:47.54Hobinheimbut apparently every page is like that..
20:47.58Kirkburn|afkYou almost made me spit out my drink :/
20:48.04Tekkubfuck the boilerplate
20:48.04Hobinheimsee, the problem is people are being robotic about the content
20:48.08Hobinheimwhen you really need not be
20:48.09Hobinheimsee!
20:48.11Hobinheimfuck the boilerplate
20:48.27Tekkubif there's no pertinent data on a page, why make it all sectiony and overstupid looking
20:48.28Kirkburn|afkApparently you really were one minute ago
20:48.31Hobinheimthat's very ambiguous
20:48.40Hobinheimcould you imagine what it feels like to be the boilerplate in that position
20:48.43Adysdelete the page as a whole and give a link to wowhead
20:48.52Hobinheimno, we give context clues at least
20:48.53Adysbtw, later for the beepings, talking with a friend atm
20:49.02Hobinheimyou could say oh this is a neat rogue weapon or looks nice on my warlock
20:49.03Kirkburn|afkI think the Boilerplate feels like it's being raped and defiled by evil dictor-like admins
20:49.22TekkubAdys, gee I think I've been saying that for a while, but the thott kiddies won't accept that idea
20:49.55Adysheh
20:50.00dottedfuck the thott kiddies, they are kids after all
20:50.04Tekkubokey fine, I'm fine with adys's version, if you drop the TOC and "Soruce" section
20:50.15Hobinheimwow tekkub is playing master psychic today
20:50.20Hobinheimthat's what i should have said earlier
20:50.22Adysagreed with tek
20:50.22Hobinheimplease use autotoc
20:50.25Tekkubthere's no need to start with a section heading when there's only it and an elinks section
20:50.35Tekkuband DON"T FORCE TOCS ASSHOLES
20:50.37Hobinheimfor shucks sake a toc on such a minimalist page is ugly
20:50.42dottedLOL
20:50.43Skyfiretruth
20:50.51Tekkub2-section TOCs on a tiny pages looks stupid
20:51.03Skyfireitem pages should be __Notoc__d :/
20:51.11Skyfireunless it's thunderfury or atiesh
20:51.12Skyfire:x
20:51.19Tekkub"OMG I CAN"T FIND THE ELINKS THEY'RE TOO FAR DOWN!"
20:51.22*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Quote of the Day: DONT FORCE TOCS ASSHOLES! | Nominate a Featured Article today! WW:FA
20:51.24Hobinheimwow
20:51.29Hobinheimthis is like... uber chorus of truth
20:51.31Tekkubno sky, let MW decide on a TOC
20:51.33Adysafk
20:51.35Hobinheimwe have quotes of the day? =(
20:51.39Tekkubdon't force it either way on item pages
20:51.42Kitanlots of screaming in here
20:51.46Hobinheimdon't force it, baby
20:51.51Kitanalso I am not a kid and I like thott
20:51.52Skyfiremw is a bitch for tocforing
20:51.53Hobinheimjust let it go in nice and ...
20:51.53Tekkubyea Kitan I just woke up :)
20:51.53Hobinheimwait....
20:51.53Skyfiretocs*
20:51.58TekkubI'm a bitch in the morn
20:52.00Kitanthough my wowhead conversion is fairly far along
20:52.07AdysHob, check my userpage, ffs.
20:52.12Adysofc we have quotes of the day
20:52.19*** join/#wowwiki Kaso (i=Jonathan@host81-151-110-175.range81-151.btcentralplus.com)
20:52.19*** mode/#wowwiki [+v Kaso] by ChanServ
20:52.24SkyfireKASOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
20:52.26Adyslo kaso my dear :D
20:52.32Kasohello dears!
20:52.34dottedlol spam
20:52.43Skyfirebtw, kitan, lern2wowhead
20:52.46Skyfiregg
20:52.49Kirkburn|afkWow, that was unexpected
20:52.50dotted=)¨
20:52.56Hobinheimwell i meant on the IRC MOTD
20:53.10Kirkburn|afkThe topic?
20:53.18Kirkburn|afkAny admin can edit the topic
20:53.20Skyfire>:)
20:53.31Hobinheimi can't :(
20:53.44Hobinheimooo there are no evil faces in my emoticon pack
20:53.46Hobinheimi think...
20:53.47Hobinheim:mad:
20:53.48dottedHobinheim clearly is the worst admin =)
20:53.49Hobinheimthere we go
20:54.05dotted[@Hobinheim]: :mad:
20:54.05dottedfail
20:54.13dotted:P
20:54.16Kirkburn|afkDepends on the IRC client, the basic way is to type /topic <the full topic text>
20:54.16Hobinheim:colbert:
20:54.23dotted[@Hobinheim]: :colbert:
20:54.29Hobinheimi don't want to nuke the existing topic
20:54.39TecnoBratif you use mirc, just doubleclick whitespace
20:54.39Kirkburn|afkNo, that's why you copy it all, then change it
20:54.53Hobinheimoh well. one day.
20:55.03TecnoBratHobinheim, what irc client do you use?
20:55.04Kirkburn|afkWith XChat you edit the bar which appears over the top of the chat area
20:55.28*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn|afk -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Quote of the Day: "DONT FORCE TOCS ASSHOLES!" - Tekkub | Nominate a Featured Article today! WW:FA
20:55.47*** topic/#wowwiki by Tekkub -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Quote of the Day: "DONT FORCE TOCS [on item pages] ASSHOLES!" - Tekkub | Nominate a Featured Article today! WW:FA
20:55.51sancussomeone got a toc forced in the wrong place
20:56.11TecnoBratLOL
20:56.13TecnoBratwhere?
20:56.13TekkubI'll force your TOC sancus
20:56.19dotted[22:57:27] !Hobinheim! VERSION Trillian
20:56.24Hobinheimwhen you read sancus too fast
20:56.27Hobinheimit's like..
20:56.34Hobinheimi'll force a TOC up your... sancus.
20:56.47Kitanwow Hob
20:56.56Skyfireuh, kirkburn, can you fix that topic
20:57.04TekkubHob's a perv today
20:57.08Skyfireoh wait, nvm
20:57.09Tekkubgood, I can slack
20:57.14Skyfiretekkub was helping
20:57.20Hobinheimwhat's to fix?
20:57.54Kirkburn|afkGod it takes years to read all my RSS feeds
20:58.21Kirkburn|afkEverytime I try and read them all, something distracts me and more appear :(
20:58.36dottedlolol lern2netvibes
20:58.39Tekkubyea kirk... I neglect my ZDnet or Discover News feeds for a few days and they're 100+
20:58.53Kirkburn|afkKaso, given what you said on wowi, no item pages for a while then?
20:59.00Tekkuband bastard Google Reader doesn't have "mark all visible as read" just "mark all read"
20:59.05Gryphen<3 google reader
20:59.07TecnoBratAnyone know what the policy is on naming server pages? "Server CC"?
20:59.14Kirkburn|afk<3 IE7 reader
20:59.16Hobinheimpolicies policies...
20:59.18dottedNetvibes > Google
20:59.46Hobinheimnot using rss feeds > *
20:59.47KasoYah, basically when i use my linux hard drive, within a day or so it corrupts, i can fix it fine with fsck but i fear one day it wont work anymore, so im trying not to use linux till i can get a new hdd
20:59.50KitanWhat did Kaso say?
20:59.58Hobinheimi actually bought feed demon but i can't keep treating web pages as e-mail, it's just plain weird
20:59.59Kirkburn|afkServer:<Name> <US/EU> I think
21:00.00Kitanahh
21:00.00Kasoill sort it out when i get back to uni next week i think
21:00.13Kitanhrm
21:00.27dottedKirkburn|afk did you change it oO?
21:00.29Kitanmeh.. I will just run the quality update after you are done with your tooltip one.  Less pages for me to pull.
21:00.43Kitanand thusly less traffic on the wiki
21:00.48Kirkburn|afkChange it?
21:01.19Kitanspeaking of that. the bot requests page is dry!
21:01.22dottedde facto standard name for europe realms is 'Europe'
21:01.34TecnoBratLooks like it might be "Server:<Name> <US/Europe>"
21:01.34Kitankaso, is yoru tooltip update going to remove Itemset_Links?
21:01.38Kirkburn|afkwatchout's stuff can be finished? He seems to be busy atm
21:01.50Kirkburn|afkTecnoBrat, ah, yup
21:02.03Kirkburn|afkI was just checking
21:02.03KasoI dont know any about Itemset_Links, can you explain?
21:02.29Kitan{{Itemset_Links}} is deprecated
21:02.40Kitanand used inside of Tooltipcss
21:02.47Kitanmostly
21:02.47Kasoah right
21:02.54Kitanyou are dumping that right?
21:03.19Kasoin its current form it would be removed, but then the tooltip would have no reference to the itemset i think
21:03.43Kitanok
21:03.48Kitanjust looking for botish type tasks
21:03.58Kitanassumed you had that one taken care of but since I could ask you I did
21:03.59Kitan:)
21:04.30Kasomy bot doesnt Convert tooltipcss as much as replace it with a completely new {{tooltip}} generated from armory data
21:04.42Hobinheimmy coworker asks what happens if you upload a non image to the wiki
21:04.47Hobinheimnot our particular wiki of course
21:04.50Hobinheimis that even possible?
21:04.54vlad_yeah
21:04.59vlad_there's a list of allowed types that can be uploaded
21:05.18Hobinheimand i guess you could sort of refer to it with [[Media: ]] ???
21:05.19vlad_it just lives as a blob (like you get the same thing as an image just no preview etc.)
21:05.22Kirkburn|afkzomg, it's him again
21:05.23vlad_yep
21:05.45Kitanoh.. so you aren't parsing tooltipcss but going out to the armory huh?
21:05.46Kitanthat is cool
21:05.46Kirkburn|afkYeah, the upload page used to mention the Media: thing, but I got rid of it for simplicity :P
21:06.06dottedwow i lost my grip on my laptop due to vlad_ typing :D
21:06.28Skyfirelol
21:06.43Adysill be back early in the morning,nn ppl
21:06.47Hobinheim:fap: is the proper response
21:06.56Hobinheimor :flashfap: if you're really excited
21:07.04Hobinheimor :dance:
21:07.07Hobinheimor :neckbeard:
21:07.09dotted:fap: ?????
21:07.14Hobinheimyou know. fap.
21:07.17Hobinheimit's that sound you make
21:07.23Hobinheimfap fap fap fap....
21:07.29*** join/#wowwiki Sky2042 (n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
21:07.46dottedit would help if i could see your smileys i think :p
21:08.00ClydeJrYou don't want to see those smilies...
21:08.16TecnoBratit has nothing to do with smileys...
21:08.46Sky2042...
21:10.12Hobinheimyou're probably wondering what neckbeard is, but it's more of a misnomer
21:10.23Hobinheimit's a very jolly smiley clapping his hands together
21:10.31Hobinheimhe's so happy it can brighten anyones day
21:10.41Hobinheimi know if i was depressed i would look at neckbeard and immediately feel better
21:11.10Kitanlater all
21:11.26*** part/#wowwiki Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn)
21:16.16Sky2042is wowhead down, or is it just me?
21:17.57*** join/#wowwiki Cairen1 (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
21:18.34ClydeJrnot that I can tell. Its responding for me
21:18.44equiraptorwowhead just loaded for me.
21:19.28Sky2042eh
21:19.30*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ
21:23.26Bibi`ouFInsidion / Obsidia / Furywing / Rivendark
21:23.29Bibi`ouFany name ring a bell ?
21:23.41Kirkburn|afknope
21:23.48Kirkburn|afkWhy?
21:23.56Bibi`ouFit seems they are dragons
21:28.11Kirkburn|afkWhere?
21:28.28Hobinheimhow come whenever i'm totally up on my chatlog, no one says anything
21:28.37Hobinheimthen when i'm afk you guys chat up a novel :mad:
21:29.21Gryphenwe dont want your participation
21:29.26Sky2042lol
21:32.19dottednn
21:32.33Kirkburn|afknight dotted
21:32.58Kirkburn|afkAww, his msg got cut off
21:37.09Skyfirepsyker needs to fix that..
21:37.11Skyfirehmm
21:37.52Hobinheimi don't even know how to leave a funny log message =(
21:39.04Skyfire?
21:43.19Hobinheimwhen dotted left, he left a message
21:43.24Hobinheimhow does one do that?
21:44.03Skyfire<PROTECTED>
21:44.11Skyfirelet's see if that works :)
21:44.27vlad_/quit I hate you all
21:44.29*** join/#wowwiki Skyfire (n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
21:44.34vlad_(that was an example)
21:44.36vlad_(;)
21:44.40Skyfiredid that work?
21:44.42vlad_(er, ;)
21:44.45Skyfire>_>
21:49.02IndustrialKirkburn|afk: http://pastey.net/13871
21:49.12IndustrialKirkburn|afk: I declare it public domain, enjoy.
21:49.41Kirkburn|afkIndustrial, make it into a wiki page :)
21:49.53Industrialdo I need an account? :p
21:49.55Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Power_leveling
21:50.01Kirkburn|afkYes :)
21:50.12Industrialyesh i modeled after the one that was already there
21:50.15Industrialic
21:50.33Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Powerlevel_Coldridge Valley would probably be appropriate
21:50.47Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Powerlevel_Coldridge_Valley even
21:53.16Hobinheimwho is this industrial
21:53.19Kirkburn|afkTurned all these into links - http://www.wowwiki.com/Power_leveling#The_Guides
21:53.21Hobinheimand where did this content come from?
21:53.45Kirkburn|afkIndy is a coder
21:54.01Kirkburn|afkAnd ab obsessive compulsive alt creator, I bet
21:54.07Hobinheimboo i have to go home right now..
21:54.08Kirkburn|afk*And an
21:54.14Kirkburn|afkSee ya Hob
21:54.14Hobinheim|afki'll be back on later tonight
21:54.16Hobinheim|afksee ya
21:54.32IndustrialKirkburn|afk: yeah i have 30 chars or so :< highest 42 :P
21:54.40Kirkburn|afklolo
21:54.52IndustrialI get bored easily.
21:55.15Kirkburn|afkI think each of the links are correct, so should be a case of filling each in :D
21:56.00Skyfireit's raining outside...
21:57.46Skyfireok
21:57.49Skyfireit's not raining anymore
21:57.51Skyfireit's hailing.
21:58.23Skyfirewonder if we're gonna' get thunder... we never get thunder in my area :/
21:58.53Skyfirehobin, did /quit I quit work?
22:03.33*** join/#wowwiki foxlit (n=me@0x50c4b029.albnxx9.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
22:05.44Skyfireindustrial, don't worry about the formatting for now. I can fix what you miss :)
22:07.45IndustrialGot it I think :D http://www.wowwiki.com/Powerlevel_Coldridge_Valley
22:08.42Skyfireyeah, i'll tweak it for you
22:10.34Skyfireweee
22:11.24Skyfirelol
22:11.31Skyfire"If you die you suck."
22:11.39Skyfirelet's try not to add that sort of thing :P
22:12.11*** join/#wowwiki DuTempete (n=chatzill@c-69-243-137-249.hsd1.in.comcast.net)
22:12.25DuTempeteWhat up?!
22:12.35Skyfireme!
22:12.39DuTempeteeep!
22:13.06*** join/#wowwiki drxfaust (n=scrier@c-69-250-146-103.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
22:14.31Skyfirehe has a point
22:19.45DuTempeteDammit, where's psyker7... it was fine when I left this morning, and then he fucked with it more.
22:19.51Skyfirewhat?
22:20.09DuTempetehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Guild_list_create
22:20.34Skyfireand?
22:21.16Skyfirehe fixed it, tbh
22:21.20Kirkburn|afkBagginsww, some Deathwing news
22:21.23Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1308
22:21.43Kirkburn|afkI think it needs adding to the Deathwing article?
22:21.48DuTempetehe cut off the word armory, skyfire.
22:21.52Skyfireno, i did
22:21.55DuTempetewhy?
22:21.56Skyfire;)
22:22.29DuTempeteweb is alright, but there's no point in abbreviating armory, let alone abbreviating something that isn't common enough terminology yet, for it to be intuitive.
22:22.53Skyfirebecause, why lengthen the page horizontally (unnecessarily)? some servers having stuff on the right side that we don't want to have issues with...
22:23.45Skyfireyou are more than welcome to change that if you must
22:25.19Skyfirekirk, is baggins here>
22:26.02Kirkburn|afkIf you want to do it, by all means :)
22:26.07Skyfirek
22:26.23Skyfireit should prolly be added to neltherion's page as well :)
22:26.55Skyfireif the wiki doesn't die
22:27.11Kirkburn|afkNeltharion being ... Deathwing
22:27.43Skyfireeak
22:27.43Skyfirei ment nefarian
22:27.45Skyfirehehe
22:29.09Teomyrgood night everyone
22:31.57Skyfirenice typo
22:32.00Skyfiregotta love blizzard
22:38.23*** join/#wowwiki Danzig (i=Danzig@cpe-67-11-233-8.satx.res.rr.com)
22:39.45Skyfiredon't edit the nelth article; i'll touch it up here in a sec
22:44.43TecnoBrato.O that Guild list template is nice
22:45.16TecnoBratI think I need to add that to the Korgath US page :)
22:45.29Bagginswwya, kirkburn there is something in the RPG that might tie into it
22:45.47Bagginswwdiscussion of Deathwing still sending orders to his minions
22:46.51Bagginswwanother possibility is the other Black Dragon in world, the one by the arena in blade edge montains.
22:47.09Bagginswwbut I hope its deathwing :)
22:47.24BagginswwHopes they add deathwing's island to the game ;)
22:47.32Kirkburn|afkI think it has been established it isn't, but I'm not sure
22:47.59Skyfirebagginsww, take it from there... i transcribed the page and some of the commentary.
22:48.03Kirkburn|afkSabellian is his dragon form name
22:48.16Bagginswwya, Sabellian, thanks
22:48.20BagginswwI meant "The Master"
22:48.29Skyfireand changed his status; he definitely isn't still imprisoned by alexstrazsa :)
22:48.36Kirkburn|afkThe Master?
22:48.43Bagginswwit doesn't say "Deathwing" explicitely
22:48.55Skyfiretrue
22:49.02Kirkburn|afkOh I see now
22:49.04Skyfireno, it is deathwing
22:49.09Skyfire"his progeny" implies it
22:49.13Skyfire:o
22:49.17Bagginswwya implied
22:49.23Bagginswwbut he's not hte only one laying eggs, ;)
22:49.33Bagginswwtechnically hey can't
22:49.35Bagginsww*he
22:49.37BagginswwI hope
22:49.42Skyfirebut it has to be a he... >_>
22:49.46Skyfire"he" lol
22:49.49Skyfireor maybe not
22:49.50Bagginswwya
22:49.58BagginswwI'd put a speculation on that for now
22:50.24Bagginswwmaybe toss it into the "current wereabouts" section
22:50.33Bagginsww*current location
22:52.29BagginswwIt would be interesting if Infinite dragonflight is what you gety if you crossed black with bronze
22:53.33Bibi`ouFbtw for those who care
22:53.46Bibi`ouFi can confirm there is a raven mount dropped by the boss of the druid's epic flight form
22:54.24Kirkburn|afkIn addition!?
22:54.52Bibi`ouFyup.
22:55.01Kirkburn|afkIs anyone editing Deathwing atm?
22:55.45Bagginswwnot I
22:56.05BagginswwI may add more to it later
22:56.07Bagginswwbut not now
22:56.18TecnoBratHmmm need an opinion. Was thinking about editing this page to use the Guild_list templates .. should I just dump the comments for each of the guilds listed?
22:56.34TecnoBrathttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Korgath_US
22:57.19Skyfireno krik, im not
22:57.38Skyfirei'll go have another go at it if you want
22:57.50Bagginswwbut really His Progeni's failur section needs to be moved into the curren location speculatin
22:57.59Kirkburn|afkGimme a few mins
22:58.11Kirkburn|afkThe Prestor stuff, when did that occur exactly?
22:58.16*** join/#wowwiki Viper007Bond (n=viper@75-164-145-118.ptld.qwest.net)
22:58.23Skyfireloc
22:58.30Skyfireugh
22:58.32Skyfirenot loc xD dotd
22:58.42Skyfirehe was lord prestor in the beta
22:58.58Kirkburn|afkHmm, the DotD is before the Lord Daval Prestor section ... confusing
22:59.05Skyfirewhere it should be
22:59.16Kirkburn|afkBut they're both at the same time
22:59.17Skyfirewow is more than 4 years after dotd
22:59.21Skyfire-_-
22:59.35Skyfiredotd was before the third war
22:59.36Kirkburn|afkNo, read the Lord Daval Prestor section
22:59.50Bagginswwbest I can tell kirkburn he's used that diguise during second war, and after
22:59.52Kirkburn|afkIt's talking about DotD stuff
23:00.00Bagginswwmostly after
23:00.17Skyfirei'd move that to the bottom
23:00.23Kirkburn|afkAch, so you /did/ mean LoC
23:00.28Skyfirelol no
23:00.44Kirkburn|afkah, nvm, I'll just finish what I'm doing now
23:00.57Skyfireyes, i'd move that section a bottom with the note that he was in wow-beta but isnt now.
23:01.56Bagginswwone thing I found interesting was no one ever added the story of Deathwing as told in Beyond the Dark Portal
23:02.04Bagginswwso I added a section the other day
23:02.14Skyfire!!!
23:02.16Skyfirelol
23:02.31Bagginswwactually people tend to ignore the stories told in the RTS alot :p...
23:02.44BagginswwI'm not saying that there have been retcons, but we don't know for sure
23:03.00Skyfirelol
23:03.17Skyfirei think its because most ppl have been playing since wc3 or later
23:03.17Kirkburn|afkBaggins, I was editing ti!
23:03.19Kirkburn|afkARGH
23:03.20Skyfirelol
23:03.25BagginswwI think so skyfire
23:03.27Bagginswwsorry kirkburn
23:03.28BagginswwI"m done
23:03.44Kirkburn|afkYes, I overwrote what you did, since I was doing it too :P
23:04.19Bagginswwuh grim batol section still needs to be in it
23:04.28Kirkburn|afkIt's not relevant to anything
23:04.39Kirkburn|afkit neither confirms, denies or says /anything/
23:05.13Bagginswwwell its current location section, grim batol rumor needs to be in it. although if you like I can get direct rpg quote if that's better
23:05.16Skyfiresomeone needs to edit the intro of the page also
23:05.22Kirkburn|afkThat would be better, yeah
23:05.38Bagginswwthere are at least one other rumor too
23:05.41Bagginswwrpg gives out
23:05.56BagginswwI think I'll toss up the adventure seed rumor too for fun
23:06.15Bagginswwthe one rumors near the end of his life he goes to the dragonblight to die LOL
23:06.22Bagginswwand asks for forgiveness
23:06.23Kirkburn|afkBy all means mention the Grim Batol stuff, but I just removed a quote which actually said nothing whatsoever, apart from it being a humourous conversation with a CM
23:06.37Kirkburn|afkBagginsww, ugh, I hated that
23:06.41BagginswwMe too
23:06.44Bagginswwit was silly
23:06.49Bagginswwsilly, silly
23:06.49Kirkburn|afkCompletely
23:07.11Kirkburn|afkSkyfire, what's up with the intro?
23:07.17BagginswwReally, Brann needs to check his sources, ;)
23:07.25Kirkburn|afkOh that bit
23:07.33Kirkburn|afkI'm not editing it atm if you want to do stuff Bagginsww
23:07.40Bagginswwno I don't have the time right now
23:07.48Kirkburn|afkOkay, my turn again then :P
23:09.00Bagginswwheh heh
23:09.58Bagginswwanycase its highly possible he might have been at grim batol once, he might have even escaped since then :)
23:10.15Kirkburn|afkWhat places have people suggested?
23:10.19Bagginswwwe'll never know how much truth to that rumor there is.
23:10.48BagginswwIn RPG? Grim Batol, for one. Dragonblight, :p... Outland too I think
23:11.06Bagginswwmaybe blackrock mountain
23:11.21Skyfire:x
23:11.26Kirkburn|afkgrrr
23:11.28Kirkburn|afkStill editing
23:11.28BagginswwLOL
23:11.35BagginswwI'm not
23:11.49Bagginswwlook kirkburn I can get ou the grim batol quote in a sec
23:11.58Bagginswwyou can add it in, while you edit :)
23:12.53BagginswwJust remember context to the rumor its pre-WoW, and if it had any truth, he could have easily escaped since then.
23:14.04Skyfirejust tell me when you're done editing kirkburn, and then i'll ninja edit :)
23:14.37Kirkburn|afkGo ahead now
23:16.17Skyfireew
23:16.21Skyfireyou edited my section...
23:16.24Skyfire;(
23:16.43BagginswwGrim BAtol also has the distinction of being the last place that the evil black dragon Deathwing was spotted. I do not believe that he is dead -- perhaps the red dragons have taken him captive?"-LoC, 75
23:17.09BagginswwI think there is another mention of the Grim Batol in one of the other books too, I'll let you know when I find it
23:18.02Kirkburn|afkSkyfire, aww, I liked my design
23:18.32Kirkburn|afkYours is more compact though
23:18.33Skyfireyou can have it back, but it was a sore to my eyes, tbh
23:18.38Skyfireyeah, i know
23:18.40Skyfire:)
23:18.50Kirkburn|afkOh, I hated the bars
23:18.59Skyfireme too
23:19.00Skyfirehehe
23:19.10Skyfirewho needs bar when you can just throw an extra enter in?
23:19.13Skyfirebars*
23:22.32TecnoBratDoes anyone have a nice server page?
23:22.35Skyfireuh... where did you find the quote on gilneas?
23:22.44TecnoBratthat I can steal some ideas from
23:22.50Skyfirehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Mal'Ganis_US
23:23.04Skyfireor mine, which is http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Shadowmoon_US
23:23.41Skyfireshadowmoon's going to be adding the guild list template here shortly... >_>
23:24.24TecnoBratSkyfire, I was thinking about doing that to... http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Korgath_US
23:24.34TecnoBratDont know if those comments for the guilds are worth keeping
23:24.48BagginswwDeathwing, an ancient and powerful black dragon,
23:24.48Bagginswwassumes the form of Lord Prestor — a young human
23:24.48Bagginswwdiplomat — and infiltrates the high council of the
23:24.48BagginswwAlliance. Using subtle magic, the dragon ensnares
23:24.48Bagginswwthe minds of the human leaders and forces them to
23:24.49Bagginswwgrant him the title of king of Alterac.
23:24.56Bagginswwthat happened sometime during the second war
23:25.23Skyfireso then... why would he be in gilneas?
23:25.27Skyfirelol
23:25.47BagginswwI don't know
23:26.03BagginswwI think that was a fan rumor because we don't know much about gilneas
23:26.09Bagginswwand why its locked up
23:26.27Bagginswwother rumors about gilneas though, is that naga took over
23:26.52Kirkburn|afkUgh, I just can't get the location section to read well
23:26.56Kirkburn|afkSkyfire, want to have a crack?
23:27.10Bagginswwbtw, that's page 34, that discusses the time he was "king of alterac"
23:27.15Kirkburn|afkAlso, how do we not have an article on Mount Kajaro?
23:27.47Skyfirei'll have a go after i make my server page look pretty
23:27.53Skyfirewhich i've wanted to do all day
23:28.54Bagginswwwell kirkburn only info about moun kajaro is from Lands of Mystery, and not many people have the RPG I guess...
23:29.30Bagginswwits a big book, I haven't even come close to pull all info form it :p
23:29.38Kirkburn|afk:)
23:29.48*** join/#wowwiki Kirochi (n=kiroforc@m201.net81-64-58.noos.fr)
23:29.58Kirkburn|afkKirochi, !
23:30.07Kirochihi there !
23:30.11Bagginswwusually when I added info from a book its because I was randomly skimming and come across somethign that was interesting to me at the given time
23:30.19KirochiI have a small problem
23:30.48Kirkburn|afkDon't worry, it's not the size that matters
23:30.57KirochiI just can't edit pages on WoWwiki. Oh boy that's annoying, I've just had my copy of LoM
23:30.58Kirochi:'(
23:31.56Kirochishould I say a big one then ?
23:31.56Kirkburn|afkYou can't edit?
23:31.56Kirochinay
23:31.56Kirochiit asks me to enter an e-mail in my preferences before
23:31.56Kirkburn|afkCan you tell me more? Why?
23:32.05Kirochibut I've already written it, it dates back to october, at least
23:32.25Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Email_authentication_now_required_to_edit
23:32.25Kirochiit just won't let me edit pages
23:32.25Kirkburn|afkI think you may be affected by the above
23:32.35Kirochiouch, so you mean the village pump can be useful sometimes ?
23:33.26KirochiMy e-mail is already registered
23:33.50Kirkburn|afkvlad_, you may be able to help here
23:34.22Kirochiand even when I rewrite it it will neither let me post on a talk page nor edit an article
23:34.31Kirkburn|afkIt won't let you log in?
23:34.41KirochiNay, I'm already logged in
23:34.52Kirkburn|afkLog out and log back in?
23:34.53Gryphenyou need to authorize the email
23:34.57Gryphennot just enter it
23:35.07Gryphenthere is a link to send yourself the auth
23:35.19Kirochium
23:35.42Kirochiand that means ?
23:35.50Gryphengo to, http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Preferences
23:36.02Kirochiaaahhh
23:36.04KirochiI see
23:36.12Kirochithat small link down there
23:36.14Kirochi-_-
23:36.28Kirochithanks a lot guys
23:36.34Kirkburn|afk:D
23:36.49KirochiAFK cleaning my eyes, there's a huge pile of shit up'em
23:37.03Kirkburn|afkluverly
23:37.31KirochiAT LAST
23:37.35Kirochiwell, thanks again
23:37.42Skyfirekirkburn, did baggins solve your issue with current location, or you going to need more help? :)
23:38.13Kirkburn|afkHaven't done anything on it, fiddle away
23:39.41Skyfirebaggins, what info do we have to support gilneas?
23:39.46Skyfireoh yes
23:39.50Skyfirebc it's not open yet
23:39.52Skyfire...
23:40.04Bagginswwand that Genn Greymane apparently sponsored Prestor
23:40.18*** join/#wowwiki _dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-13-21.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr)
23:40.23Bagginswwso maybe Prestor returned to Gilneas and convinced him to close it
23:40.27Bagginswwthat's one fan theory
23:40.50Skyfireweak theory
23:40.51Skyfire:/
23:40.57Skyfirecan we get rid of that one?
23:41.10Kirkburn|afkIt's not weak
23:41.10Skyfireand what is there to support mount kajaro>
23:41.22Skyfire<- is editing article
23:41.23Bagginswwskyfire read the entire article
23:41.29Skyfireah
23:41.29Kirkburn|afkThe fact his normal lair is a giant volcano
23:41.31Bagginswwhttp://www.blizzplanet.com/content/681/
23:41.35Bagginswwits a pretty good theory
23:41.43Bagginswwall three are good theories
23:41.50Bagginswweven kajro one
23:42.06Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/bigpost/raven_god.jpg
23:42.07Bibi`ouF^^
23:42.22Bagginswwits interesting apparently black dragons turn grey when its close to the time they are to molt
23:42.36Bagginswwthey have to dip in lava in order to help burn off the old ski
23:42.39Bagginsww*skin
23:42.57Kirochium
23:43.00Skyfirei thought blackwing didn't have skin anymore...
23:43.06Skyfiredeathwing*
23:43.11Skyfirejust the adamantite armor
23:43.13Kirochiin the nether wing encampment in outland
23:43.29Kirochia female black dragon states that DW is alive
23:43.29Kirochiright ?
23:43.44Skyfireyes
23:43.49Skyfirewe just added that
23:43.50Skyfire^^
23:44.00TekkubI'm sure he is, just waiting for a good time to come out
23:44.04Kirochi(sorry just read it on official french wow bbs)
23:44.06Bagginswwkirochi, it implies that he is alive, but never states his name explicitely
23:44.18Tekkubbesides, he'd just respawn
23:44.19Bagginswwso not yet full confirmation
23:44.31Kirochi"the master"
23:44.37Kirochior suche
23:44.39Kirochi-e
23:44.40Bagginswwya, "The Master", we know its a male
23:44.50Bagginswwit has progeny
23:45.10Bagginswwbut still almost every black dragon vies to usurp Deathwing's position :p
23:45.11Tekkubmaybe he meant "The Maester" and just typo'd
23:45.25Skyfirelol
23:45.42Bagginswwso "The Master" could be just a dragon that's manipulated himself into a position of power
23:45.50Kirochiwho would it be ?
23:45.57BagginswwSabellian is another possibility :)
23:46.01KirochiNefarian is deadzor
23:46.09BagginswwSabellian is very mysterious
23:46.13TekkubOny and Neth's other sibling maybe?
23:46.20Bagginswwcould be
23:46.51Tekkub"Rebecca", the illigitame half-sister
23:47.14Bagginsww"Deathing vanished not long ago, which has led to an unfettered "feeding frenzy" among his dragonflight all conspire to achive dominance.
23:47.22KirochiMount Kajaro, hmmm
23:48.07Skyfireslight edit
23:48.14Skyfirehave a looksee
23:48.25BagginswwSome claim they receive  regular messages from Deathwing (though none has been confirmed as yet); others assert that Deathwing is dead and that a new monarch of their flight must be chosen.)
23:48.55BagginswwInfighting becomes even more vicious and violent among the black dragons, whith the conflict spilling into their surrounding territories.
23:49.02BagginswwMoM, 29
23:49.11Bagginswwif anyone wants to add some of that to "Current Location" info
23:50.43Kirkburn|afkBtw, I just toned down the long article warning
23:50.51Kirkburn|afkIt's not been a technical issue for a long time
23:50.57BagginswwMount Kajaro (Undermine) because Deathwing's usual lair was in a volcano, attended by Goblins.
23:51.03Bagginswwhad to toss in goblins
23:51.13Kirkburn|afk(it was changes on wikipedia two years ago)
23:51.29KirochiI was surprised to find no murlocs or mur’guls in
23:51.30Kirochithe Eye. I assume that the naga slay any murlocs
23:51.30Kirochithey find here (or that the dim creatures are
23:51.30Kirochisharp enough to steer clear of this place — unlike
23:51.30Kirochisome dwarven adventurers I could name).
23:51.36Kirochiouch sorry flood><
23:51.46Kirkburn|afknp
23:52.37Bagginswwheh heh
23:53.53Skyfirenp there baggins
23:54.37Kirochiomg LoM's description of Kezan fits my criteria
23:54.48KirochiI want to live there, avast!
23:55.57Kirochihttp://www.radioblogclub.fr/open/138792/pirates/Pirates%20of%20the%20Carribean
23:56.03Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Deathwing#Current_location
23:56.17Bagginswwfeel free to rework those additions
23:56.44Bagginswwmust still add the silly, dragonblight rumor too :p
23:57.08Skyfirei don't like how you quoted that; the beginning is obvious.
23:59.12BagginswwStill in command, some black dragons, claim to receive regular messages from Deathwing (though none has been confirmed as yet)...MoM 29
23:59.12BagginswwDead, Some of the black dragons assert that Deathwing is dead and that a new monarch of their flight must be chosen.MoM 29
23:59.58KirochiARR PIRATEZ

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.