IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070502

00:00.55vlad_TecnoBrat: Sharks fan, actually
00:01.03vlad_but in canucks vs. dallas, I'm all about the canucks
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00:13.01TecnoBrathaha
00:14.26Devilkoul200 arena points short of gladiators staff... 3550 to spend QQ
00:14.29Devilkoulgrrr
00:15.37pzyk0ticgladiator is the one that looks like something out of star wars right?
00:16.36Devilkoulyea
00:17.09pzyk0ticI don't mind it too much, one of the very few items from pre-BC that wasn'st just reskinned
00:17.24Devilkoulyarr
00:30.06Kirkburn|afkvlad_, what are my plans for tonight? ^^
00:49.15Kirkburn|afkServer shutdown in 12:00 :(
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01:01.25Kirkburn|afkServer go bye bye :(
01:01.44Kirkburn|afkWell, at least I managed to reach 33% Revered with SW at only level 27 :D
01:02.32Kirkburn|afkAnd I haven't even finished Elwynn Forest! (draenei)
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01:32.46Kirkburn|afkzomg The Longest Journey and Dreamfall double pack on Steam! AWESOME!
01:35.36Kirkburn|afk$32.84, not bad price :)
01:38.47winkilleri hate semester projects
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02:05.20vlad_Kirkburn|afk: gonna try to pull the trigger, but I think you're screwed timezone wise
02:05.31vlad_gonna start in probably about 2-3 hours or so
02:05.37Kirkburn|afkI'm screwed :)
02:05.39vlad_so maybe go sleep early and then wake up :)
02:05.43vlad_wake up early I mean
02:06.09Kirkburn|afkI'll wake up ... when I wake up :P No promises!
02:06.19vlad_fair :)
02:06.20Kirkburn|afkI'm sure it'll be fine anyway
02:06.30vlad_yeah, I don't anticipate any major problems
02:06.39vlad_probably will be a lot of stuff that can be cleaned up with the parserfunctions stuff
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02:07.20Kirkburn|afkfunky
02:07.34Kirkburn|afkI just noticed 1.10 still isn't out, or at least, only RC1
02:07.35Sky2042how did tekkub manage to edit tooltip without breaking the wiki? :)
02:07.39vlad_yeah
02:07.44Kirkburn|afkJob queue ftw, Sky2042
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02:08.01Sky2042ecsplica me
02:08.03vlad_I'll do 0.9 now and then 0.10 when it comes out
02:08.08Sky2042explica*?
02:08.11Sky2042^^
02:08.38Kirkburn|afkFine by me, vlad_, all the cool stuff is in 1.8 and 1.9 that I've seen on wikipedia. Hopefully ;)
02:08.52Kirkburn|afkSky2042, the job queue means that it doesn't try to do everything at once
02:09.15Sky2042i knew that... how does the job queue work though?
02:09.17Sky2042lol
02:09.28Sky2042that from inference*
02:09.42Kirkburn|afkhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Job_queue
02:10.24Sky2042oh great
02:10.24Sky2042:P
02:11.00Sky2042when did that start working again? hehe
02:11.31Kirkburn|afkJust over a week ago, I guess
02:13.18Bibi`ouFhmmm, serious question, does someone know how far you can go in datamining before Blizzard gets mad at you ?
02:13.54Sky2042they don't get mad, I don't think, unless you start showing the rest of the world that you're datamining
02:14.02Sky2042like the noggenfogger crew
02:14.07Sky2042;(
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02:14.08Bibi`ouFwell, I'm kinda posting everything on my site.
02:14.09Bibi`ouF:p
02:14.28Sky2042tekkub, nice edit to {{transclude}} :]
02:14.30mirski.
02:14.33Tekkub^^
02:14.35mirskihello
02:14.45Tekkuband a lot of big template edits have gotten a lot smoother
02:14.52Sky2042hello mirski, how are you?
02:14.58TekkubI've not broken the wiki for 10 min in a few weeks
02:15.01Sky2042:D
02:15.02TekkubI blame vlad
02:15.12Sky2042maybe it's cause the css works again?
02:15.13Sky2042:o
02:15.22mirskiok
02:15.42mirskihello people...
02:15.43Sky2042good to hear that mirski
02:15.45TekkubI don't see CSS in there yet
02:15.48mirskii really want wow
02:16.03mirskibut cant afford it since i have to pay for volledge
02:16.04Tekkubso go get a trial
02:16.16Sky2042volledge?...
02:16.19Sky2042college*?
02:16.24Tekkubvollyball
02:16.30mirskiheard something about a privete server is there any good ones?
02:16.34mirskicallodge ok
02:16.37mirskivery funny
02:16.48mirskii'm stoned
02:16.50mirskisorri
02:17.00Sky2042lol
02:17.19Tekkubprivate servers are against the TOS, don't ask about em here
02:17.30mirskisooo oki
02:17.40mirskiwell i dont ive a shit!!!
02:18.03Skosirislol
02:18.04Tekkubgood cause I don't have to shit either
02:21.07winkillerdamn, I hate towork remotely on a box that's just gzipping up the daily backup
02:21.13winkillerit's so sloooow
02:21.51Sky2042qq
02:26.08Kirkburn|afkHow awesome is it to be 1/3 revered with another faction before you hit 30? :P
02:26.35Kirkburn|afkI aim to be exalted with SW before I hit 40 ^^
02:26.47Kirkburn|afk(no BGs, no donations)
02:27.08Sky2042that's the way to do it, if you aim to be exalted with a race at some point
02:27.33Sky2042you've got 14k points still? :)
02:27.38Kirkburn|afkAm 27 atm, did most of the Elwynn quests earlier
02:27.54Kirkburn|afk14k shouldn't be toooo hard if I do all Westfall and Redridge
02:28.31Kirkburn|afkMaking sure I do all quests, too (yay for Wowhead's clean quest lists!)
02:29.20Kirkburn|afkOnce I've done all them I may just move onto Dun Morogh and Loch Modan :P
02:30.19Kirkburn|afkIt's a good thing I'm a hunter, otherwise doing all this would be sooooooo sloooooow
02:30.37Sky2042why would you do the dwarf quests?...
02:30.55Kirkburn|afkI could probably get them exalted too ^^
02:30.55Sky2042you still have arathi highlands, also
02:31.01Sky2042:)
02:31.04Kirkburn|afkah, true true
02:33.07SkosirisKirkburn: I'm glad you like them :)
02:33.10Skosiristhey lack something very important though
02:33.24Sky2042skosiris, why did you make the popup boxes for your icons use lower case letters? :(
02:34.04SkosirisI used some batch renamer to rename all icons to lowercase
02:34.49Sky2042thou art mean
02:34.54Skosirisbecause of the so many inconsistencies between the icon names in SpellIcon.dbc/ItemDisplayInfo.dbc  and the actual icon filenames
02:35.48Kirkburn|afkWhat's missing, oh Skosiris?!
02:36.01Kirkburn|afkDon't leave me on such tenterhooks!
02:36.16Skosirislol :)
02:36.27Skosiristhey are lacking the rewards
02:36.34Sky2042dum dum dum
02:37.46Kirkburn|afknoooooooooooooooooo
02:38.46Kirkburn|afkOOooooooOOOhhhh! Eyonix - "The phoenix mount is rare drop, currently in-game."
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02:47.59Garoun|Loupanahas to be off a'lar
02:48.12Garoun|Loupanaonly logical place I can think of, and I know, very late :P
02:52.22Kirkburn|afkGaroun|Loupana, yeah, I agree
02:52.25Kirkburn|afkI'm off to bed now
02:52.27Kirkburn|afkG'night all!
02:53.35Garoun|Loupananight
02:53.45Sky2042nite
02:56.10Sky2042anybody have a random page that they want someone to have a look at and edit for verbage?
03:00.37winkillergief sleeep
03:00.56winkillerbut I finished my project and also jotted down my homework.
03:01.16winkillerit's 5 am and maybe.. I can do sth useful for 2h now!
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03:12.52Sky2042skosiris disappeared :/
03:33.20Sky2042mikakas gone nuts
03:36.37Sky2042you no take candle!
04:00.40Sky2042how do you copy paste something using mirc?
04:02.00Skosirisselect the text with your mouse (click, drag, release), then paste using ctrl-v
04:02.34Sky2042i've done that
04:03.13Sky2042hitting the ctrl key makes it unselected ;(
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04:36.55Adysalo
04:37.07Sky2042alo
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04:44.03Devilkoulboo, dallas won
04:44.56Adys"omg! they are nerfing locks!"
04:44.57AdysDeath Coil is now is now subject to diminishing returns in the Horror category. Currently, only Death Coil is in this category.
04:45.03AdysOK, how useful
04:45.08Devilkoulrofl
04:45.27Sky2042ORLY?!
04:45.38Sky2042lol
04:45.42Devilkoulits not like they could chain cast it
04:45.43Devilkoulheh
04:45.53Sky2042wonder what they are adding to the horror category to share drs with... :o
04:45.58Devilkoulguess multiple locks?
04:46.03Sky2042ah
04:46.06Sky2042there is that
04:46.11Adys# Auchindoun: Shadow Labyrinth
04:46.12Adys<PROTECTED>
04:46.14AdysYES YES
04:46.26Devilkoulso getting raped 2locks vs. 1 wont be as quick
04:47.52AdysInspect distance has been increased to 30 yards (from 10 yards). very yes to that
04:49.56Sky2042uh, devil... getting raped by 1 lock doesn't even take that long... >.>
04:50.09Devilkoul:P
04:50.27DevilkoulImpact: The delay on the stun effect has been reduced.
04:50.29Devilkoulhmm
04:50.38Sky2042ah
04:50.38Devilkoulthought it was instant
04:50.41Sky2042almost
04:50.56Sky2042there is some time between getting hit wth the fire attack and the actual beginning of the stun
04:51.10Sky2042guess that has been eliminated. it was more of a bug i guess
04:51.15Devilkoulyarr
04:51.47Sky2042where are the patch notes? was it released today, or just a new build?
04:51.57Adyshttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/01/ptr-changes-for-may-1/
04:52.01DevilkoulPTR changes for May 1
04:52.06Devilkoulyea, what he said
04:52.44Sky2042ouch
04:52.48Sky2042they're nerfing illumination
04:53.04Sky2042pretty harsh nerf
04:53.40Sky2042lol
04:53.52Sky2042now how did that work: "Felguard: This pet will periodically check to see if you know the talent which allows you to summon it, and die if you do not know the talent."
04:55.36Sky2042nerf to mystic skyfire
04:55.56Devilkoullol
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05:19.51TekkubSky, I assume you spec to get felguard, summon, respec, hope it doesn't die
05:19.52Devilkoulye
05:19.52Sky2042_nah
05:19.52Sky2042_i read the article
05:19.52Sky2042_summon, respec, go into bg, died
05:19.52Sky2042_die*
05:19.53Sky2042_bgs resummon last pet to die
05:19.53Devilkouleven better
05:19.53Tekkubahso
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05:19.53Tekkubseems to me the better solution is to desummon when you unlearn talents
05:19.54Sky2042that would be the theory
05:19.54Sky2042oh well
05:19.54Tekkubor, the more logical one... if the person that summons the felguard don't have the skill to control it....
05:19.54Tekkub<PROTECTED>
05:19.54Sky2042lol
05:19.54Tekkubthat's how I would fx it
05:19.54Tekkubnot only solve the problem, punish those that are cheating
05:19.54winkillerwho is desperate enough to respec for that felguard glitch?
05:21.27Sky2042who knows
05:21.27vlad_soo!
05:21.28vlad_I have good news
05:25.56Sky2042when does the wiki die?
05:25.56vlad_it's going to liiive!
05:25.56Sky2042orly?!!
05:25.56vlad_but I need to post some news on the village pump
05:25.56Sky2042have at it, rustak, god of the wowwiki!
05:25.56Sky2042;P
05:26.45Sky2042hmm
05:28.59Sky2042tekkub
05:29.17Tekkubeh?
05:29.39Sky2042did you manage to get {{loot}} to work with disambigs in {{tooltip}}, or still puzzling? :o
05:29.52Tekkubloot in tooltip?
05:29.52Sky2042editcoughnamecough
05:29.55Sky2042lol
05:30.00Sky2042i r on crack
05:30.05Tekkubloot takes disambigs now
05:30.08Sky2042tooltip needs to work with disambigs
05:30.17Tekkubokey
05:30.20Sky2042yeah, i've glancing through the templateedits in the past week
05:32.49Sky2042wtfux is http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Spell-rank/header supposed to be? :X
05:52.20Sky2042lol
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06:07.16doktoreashi to all
06:07.23doktoreasanyone play wow with mac?
06:07.47Tekkubdamn hippies
06:07.58vlad_haha
06:08.57TekkubI sit in Chipotle with my Vista laptop nibbling on my burrito, working on programs, and acting high and mighty
06:09.05vlad_haha
06:09.21Tekkub...hijacking wifi from the not-starbucks coffee shop next door
06:11.11Sky2042hmm
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06:15.11Sky2042hmm
06:15.32Sky2042vlad_ did you kill the wiki?
06:15.40vlad_sure hope not!
06:15.46Sky2042nvm
06:15.51Sky2042internet got clogged up
06:16.54TekkubSuccexy, think that's the most creative name I've seen in some time
06:17.12Sky2042suck-sexy?
06:17.14Tekkubso vladder... how much longer?
06:17.16Sky2042:o
06:17.17Tekkubyou know you want ot :)
06:17.40vlad_Tekkub: well, i'm posting some news first
06:17.57Tekkubpost news then take down wiki so we can't read news?
06:18.04vlad_yeah, that doesn't seem smart
06:18.07vlad_I was thinking of taking it down tomorrow
06:18.14vlad_but meh, it's 11
06:18.31vlad_so I can stay up :p
06:22.36Sky2042tekkub: no, not you
06:22.43Sky2042there are others though...
06:22.46Sky2042:]
06:22.47Tekkuberf?
06:22.58Sky2042you betcha
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06:23.02Sky2042you're missing out ;P
06:26.40Sky2042now isn't http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32756#22323 just the awesomest looking gun ingame?
06:26.58Bibi`ouFI think this ranged weapon sucks sir.
06:27.48Sky2042find a better looking one then nublet!
06:28.37Bibi`ouFHmmmm
06:28.39Bibi`ouFok.
06:28.51Bibi`ouFhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/t5_weapons/hunter.jpg
06:29.24Sky2042no
06:29.27Sky2042lose
06:29.29Sky2042find another
06:30.01Bibi`ouFlose ? LOSE ?
06:30.05Bibi`ouFwtf !
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06:31.02Bibi`ouFanyway, http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=152.0
06:32.10Sky2042lol, mage dagger looks gimp
06:32.17Bibi`ouFyup
06:32.48Sky2042pretty looking war sword
06:33.25Sky2042the durids get a floooooower
06:33.26Sky2042:)
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06:33.29Bibi`ouFyeah
06:33.34Bibi`ouFand the druid is labeled as rogue dagger
06:33.37Bibi`ouF*cough*
06:34.20Sky2042lol
06:36.44Sky2042hmg
06:36.54Sky2042they are making maiev look like she's from wc3
06:36.56Sky2042cooooooooooool
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06:48.50Sky2042shadowsong?
06:49.00Sky2042bitch who wants illidan dead?
06:49.04Sky2042-_-
06:49.13Sky2042at least, recaptured anyway
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07:00.52p30nofc
07:00.57p30ni want his blades tho
07:01.07vlad_finally posted
07:01.11vlad_http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#WoWWiki_moving_to_Wikia.21 :)
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07:20.13Adysvlad_: Awesome :)
07:23.10vlad_yarr!
07:23.32vlad_You still get to have me do the upcoming upgrades :)
07:24.57vlad_but that'll happen in a timely fashion
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07:43.18sancusTIMELY?!
07:45.17JunkHead-Work11 dvd's for 91 bucks.
07:45.23JunkHead-Work94* bucks.
07:46.22Bleeterraaar
07:48.48vlad_yeah!
07:48.51vlad_it'll be timely-ish.
07:48.55vlad_or something.
07:49.05vlad_i have to get up early tomorrow (er, later this morning)
07:49.15vlad_so I'll take it down and do a backup and then fire it up in read-only mode for now
07:49.40Tekkubhey vlad, few things :)
07:49.52Tekkub1) we keeping wowwiki.com or will it be wow.wikia?
07:50.32Tekkub2) think it might be of interest to split the API off into a seperate wiki entirely?  then we don't need API_Pagename etc
07:51.17vlad_Tekkub: will be wowwiki.com, at least for the foreseeable future
07:51.33vlad_for 2, that's a good idea to think about -- we should figure that out
07:51.38sancuswowwiki.com is the domain people know, be silly to change that right now
07:51.41vlad_we could move API into its own namespace at least
07:51.45vlad_yeah
07:51.55Tekkubnamespace will do
07:52.02Tekkubsame for servers and guilds?
07:52.51vlad_guilds actually might want a separate wiki
07:52.59vlad_so that they can be "their own"?
07:53.13Tekkubguilds and servers should be in the same wiki
07:53.16vlad_I gotta go get a few hours of sleep though -- maybe create a discussion page and link it off the village pump for potential reorg ideas?
07:53.23Adysbbl, replacing my graphic card hopefully now
07:53.27vlad_true, since the guilds are on the servers
07:53.27vlad_hmm
07:53.32Tekkubbut if wikia is will to host more than one, we should push for a logical division of our content
07:53.48vlad_yeah, though
07:53.58vlad_"world of warcraft-related stuff" is a pretty logical division :)
07:53.58Tekkubwell what we got... API, lore, item/quest/mod/WDB stuff, servers and guilds
07:54.08vlad_lore might be an interesting separate wiki
07:54.16Tekkublore and in game DB stuff can stay togethr
07:54.19vlad_though there's a lot of lore stuff linked directly to actual wow stuff
07:54.30Tekkubyea it is closely linked
07:54.33vlad_ok, really gotta fall asleep now :)
07:54.38Tekkubokey :)
07:54.47TekkubI'll throw ideas at the pump
07:55.01Adysbah always on interesting discussions im gonna miss out :<
07:55.03Adysanyways, bbl
08:01.59Tekkubactually, API and addons could break off into their own wiki
08:02.24TekkubAce devs might even be willing to move that wiki over
08:05.15Bleeterhaha
08:08.11Bleeterthing is, would any particular project like to have their API etc. editable by anyone? I'd suspect that sub-domaining (or similar) specific addon sets and setting up specific admin rights would be needed
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08:21.45TekkubBleeter, ace's api is in a wiki already dink
08:22.07Tekkubsame with cosmos :P
08:22.23Bleeteryes, I'm aware
08:22.56BleeterI'm just trying to think of a reason *why*, despite numerous requests, it's not been moved into WoWWiki space
08:23.10Bleeterand, I suspect, that might be a reason. thus, the comment above.
08:23.26dottederr
08:23.56Bleetertho of course I ahve no real idea... just guessing lol
08:24.16Bleeterand that I haven't looked at anyone's wiki in over a month, things may have changed :P
08:25.35Tekkubif there is a reason, it's to keep up ad revenue to keep the dev and download servers up
08:25.55Tekkubbut I think they've been moved into curse's space, so that might not be a big concern anymore
08:26.04Tekkubbesides it's the forum that gets the most traffic
08:26.43Bleeteryar, well it's just insane to have API spread across multiple places.
08:26.54Tekkubhence "move" :)
08:43.19JunkHead-WorkPoop.
08:43.37JunkHead-Work300-375 Tailoring is going to require more Netehrweave than I had hoped.:(
08:44.01p30nhow much is more?
08:44.14JunkHead-WorkI'm looking at a guide on the wow forums.
08:44.22JunkHead-WorkIt predicts about 2460 cloth.
08:45.13JunkHead-WorkThat's almost twice the amoutn I have saved up.
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08:53.55doktoreashi to all
08:54.11doktoreaswhat this error mean? http://gaming.ngi.it/forum/showthread.php?t=432056&page=2
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08:57.25dotteddoktoreas if we were able to read italian we might be able to help you :/
08:57.56doktoreasoh lol sorry wrong paste
09:02.35doktoreashttp://www.wowwiki.com/Shade_of_Aran
09:24.16dottedwhat error?
09:26.58doktoreasfrom within function "SiteStatsUpdate::doUpdate". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (localhost)".
09:29.48Tekkubhappens from time to time, just refresh
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09:33.51AdysKirkburn, beep
09:33.58Adysor, Kirkburn|afk actuakkt
09:34.10Adysactually* oO
09:40.22Adyshm nvm actually =P
09:40.32AdysIll be back later, maybe
09:57.22dottedB O R I N G
09:57.24dotted!
09:57.25dottedLOLOL
09:57.29dotted:D:D*:DD,WÅERPMRÅ
09:57.30dottedWELF¨
09:58.54doktoreasdotted, same error on 9999 refreesh :D
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09:59.52Punkie`doktoreas: try like, ctrl+f5
10:01.14doktoreassame :(
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10:40.47Tekkubmuahahahaha!
10:40.56TekkubI want a shirt that says "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0"
10:41.47Tekkuboh, oh noes, infobot just logged that... now he's going to get a cease and decist from the copyright nazis!
10:42.34Kasohu?
10:43.18Tekkubhttp://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?shownews=7138
10:43.24Tekkubthat splains it
10:43.38TekkubI never got a DeCSS shirt, tho I did keep the mp3s
10:43.49TekkubI _NEED_ a 09 F9 shirt
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10:44.30Tekkubthey even have a name for it... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
10:45.41Slagertdoes that include growing a huge nose and becoming cross-eyed?
10:45.54Tekkubdunno
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10:49.29Tekkubhttp://www.cafepress.com/09f9
10:49.48Tekkubahahahahahaha!  I love buing things I don't need online
10:52.14Tekkuband to continue the story
10:52.14Tekkubhttp://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?shownews=7143
10:53.35p30nhehe nice
10:54.17Tekkubwelp, looks like tomorrow the laptop gets another sticker
10:54.28Tekkuband I order me a new tshirt
10:54.30dottedTekkub i just bought a domain with the hex code :D
10:54.39Tekkuborly?
10:54.56dottedthen im gonna have BNC running using that as vhost
10:55.20dotted09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.dk
10:55.28dottedimba vhost tbh
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10:56.18p30nsure is nice dotted
10:56.39dotted[12:58:12] ::: 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 Erroneous Nickname
10:56.40dottedaww
10:56.55Tek09f9I tried too ><
10:57.04dot09f9lolol creative
10:57.06Tek09f9everyone join in!
10:57.25Tek09f9join or I'll kick you!
10:57.33Tek09f9I wonder...
10:57.39p30n09f9=)
10:57.52Tek09f9* #09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
10:57.56Tek09f9baka!
10:58.01p30n09f9those others are undercover DMCA
10:58.10p30n09f9those who wont chime in :p
10:58.59tek09f911029d74egod we're such rebels
10:59.03dot09f911029d74eidd
10:59.10dot09f911029d74eteenage rebilion ftw
11:00.20dot09f911029d74ebesides DMCA cant really tough me
11:00.49tek09f911029d74eit can touch me it all it wants
11:00.55tek09f911029d74ebut I might get turned on
11:01.05dot09f911029d74e:o
11:01.48tek09f911029d74eyou know, these bitches are gonna make so much money off these tshirts
11:02.36dot09f911029d74eidd
11:04.14tek09f911029d74eoops...
11:04.20tek09f911029d74ehttp://tekkub.blogspot.com/
11:05.00dot09f911029d74eoh a lolblog
11:05.28dot09f911029d74ei wish cafepress had a european shop
11:05.38dot09f911029d74ecosts shitloads to import US stuff
11:06.46dot09f911029d74enerf import taxes
11:07.45p30n09f9word!
11:08.41a09f911029d74e35wow.com down?
11:09.25dot09f911029d74eworks fine
11:09.31dot09f911029d74ewww.wow.com
11:09.42a09f911029d74e35worldofwarcraft.com
11:09.52dot09f911029d74e=)
11:10.17Kasothat key was discovered like 3 months ago you know
11:10.42dot09f911029d74eKaso more loike 2 weeks ago
11:10.57dot09f911029d74ea09f911029d74e35 wow-europe.com works :p
11:11.07Kaso11th February 2007, 13:09
11:11.19Kasothats when it was discovered
11:11.20Kasohttp://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121866&page=6
11:11.20dot09f911029d74esource?
11:11.29a09f911029d74e35dot09f911029d74e: except I don't have a EU account and I need to access account management
11:12.53dot09f911029d74eKaso hmm odd, what was released 2 weeks ago - im missing something. besides its no matter, its fun to spread the numbers now becuase of all the hype
11:12.58tek09f911029d74e02/11/07, the day the DRM died, again... ?
11:13.39tek09f911029d74eclad!
11:13.44clad|workhai
11:13.46Kasoits just this digg thing that's gotten it prevalence all of a sudden, doom9 guys have been cracking hd/blueray for ages
11:13.46tek09f911029d74ejoin the crazy rebelion
11:14.01dot09f911029d74eKaso i know
11:14.07clad|worki dont want to be bludgeoned with the dmca
11:14.11clad|workplus i'm going tow ork
11:14.19tek09f911029d74e<PROTECTED>
11:15.18dot09f911029d74edmca is full of fail, good thing i dont live in the us :p
11:15.43tek09f911029d74eokey, me make sleep now so I can make sex tomorrow *crosses fingers*
11:16.02dot09f911029d74ekek
11:19.02Kasohttp://labs.digg.com/swarm/ is pretty amusing to watch re: numbers
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11:49.31Hobinheim|workKirkburn|afk
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12:38.34Kirkburn|afkMeep
12:38.44Kirkburn|afkI just read the news
12:39.18Kirkburn|afkI can't believe Jimbo Wales offered
12:40.43Kaso|CyclingToTowhat what?
12:41.20Kirkburn|afkTo move wowwiki to wikia
12:41.36Kirkburn|afkJimbo Wales being essentially the founder of wikipedia
12:41.38Kaso|CyclingToTowoah
12:41.49Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#WoWWiki_moving_to_Wikia.21
12:42.24*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn|afk -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Go vote! http://tinyurl.com/366sje | Nominate a Featured Article today! WW:FA | Go vote! WW:EL | WoWWiki moving to Wikia - http://tinyurl.com/yt836t
12:43.03KasoWikia servers will be pretty sexy
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12:48.12KasoIve pretty much got my linux set up and running again Kirk, but given that rustak is gonna be upgrading mediawiki tonight i might leave it a day or two
12:48.43KasoI hope the wikia servers dont fuck up my bot! i dont wanna have to re-write the network code :<
12:52.47Hobinheim|workuhh what kind of bot are you using that it would need to be re-written?
12:53.22Hobinheim|workok gg to work
12:53.24Hobinheim|workbrb
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12:56.06Kitanhello all
12:56.15Kitanwow... I expected a lot of chatter going on
12:56.28Kitangiven the wikia announcement
13:00.31equiraptorhrm?
13:00.56equiraptoroh.
13:04.38p30n09f9Kitan: enlighten me
13:10.49dotted[Kitan]: wow... I expected a lot of chatter going on <- why :O?
13:15.07Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#WoWWiki_moving_to_Wikia.21
13:15.15Kirkburn|afk^ that's why
13:15.46Kirkburn|afkKitan, we haven't got anyone to discuss it with atm :P I think it's cool, and I definately respect Jimbo Wales
13:16.21Kirkburn|afkIt's /not/ going to mean relinquishing control
13:18.09Kitannod
13:18.37Kitanwell hob just left a slightly frustrated comment.  I assumed others would be discussing it here.
13:20.01Kirkburn|afkNo Hob to discuss it with :P
13:20.34Kitanheh
13:20.34Kitanso you are all for the move Kirk?
13:20.35Kirkburn|afkHe's automatically suspicious of this stuff anyway ^^ (and I think that's fair)
13:20.36Kirkburn|afkYes
13:21.12Kirkburn|afkLess pressure on vl.ad for one
13:21.56Kirkburn|afkI've added to the talk now
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13:31.29KitanKirk
13:31.44Kitanwhy hasen't the Illidian article gone FA?
13:31.55Kirkburn|afkCause, er, I'm slow
13:31.58Kirkburn|afkI'll do it later
13:32.12Kirkburn|afk(also, other admins are slow, but fear me when it comes to the Main Page)
13:33.09Kitanheh
13:33.11Kitanok good to know :)
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13:53.53dottedKirkburn|afk
13:53.53dotted!
13:53.55dotteddamm
13:53.59dotted*damn
13:54.00dotted!
13:54.01dotted?
13:54.02dotted:(
13:54.08Kirkburn|afkMmhmm?
13:55.19dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Ommra
13:55.20dotted!
13:55.23dottedKirkburn|afk
13:57.09Hobinheim|workhiyo!!
13:57.50Hobinheim|worki'm all for progress, in regards to wikia
13:58.00Hobinheim|workbut i can't help but shake the feeling joining a conglomerate is a bad thing
13:58.03Hobinheim|workit seems a little TOO good
13:58.09Hobinheim|worklike podshow, which is crap, so i've heard
13:58.10dotted:D
14:00.11*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn|afk -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Nominate a Featured Article today! WW:FA | Go vote! WW:EL | WoWWiki moving to Wikia - tinyurl.com/yt836t
14:00.16Kirkburn|afkWikia isn't crap :)
14:00.33Kirkburn|afkdotted, http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Ommra#Criticism
14:00.55Hobinheim|workshow me a wikia site that looks as sexy as ours
14:01.27dottedKirkburn|afk just remove the section already :D
14:02.29Kirkburn|afkHobinheim|work, just cause we're moving to wikia, doesn't mean we have change the design
14:02.44Kirkburn|afk(adverts notwithstanding)
14:02.48Hobinheim|workKirkburn|afk, what if there are weird wikia policies that we have to follow
14:02.49Hobinheim|worklike that
14:02.53Hobinheim|worki can't think of anything else
14:02.58Hobinheim|workbut i'm just saying... super suspicious
14:03.10Kirkburn|afkThey won't interfere, don't worry
14:03.11dottedthen go read on their policies and find somthing nasty
14:03.12Hobinheim|worklook, if we can pull a ninja and keep the domain and design, i'm all for it
14:03.19Hobinheim|workit's just that i haven't been convinced otherwise with existing wikia sites
14:03.22dottedwhat if's doesnt do anyone good
14:03.29Hobinheim|workdotted, i know, i tried this morning, nothing fishy
14:03.36Hobinheim|workof course it does
14:03.38Kirkburn|afkYes, the domain will of course stay, though it may be a redirect
14:03.38dottedthen dont worry :)
14:03.45Hobinheim|workredirect not good enough
14:03.54Kirkburn|afkA masked redirect
14:04.00Hobinheim|workthat's fine
14:04.10Hobinheim|workan intelligent, sexy, apache re-writing one is fine enough
14:04.22Hobinheim|workthat's how alll of mediawiki works anyway, haha
14:04.37Kirkburn|afk(example of a masked redirect - http://www.georgepribul.com)
14:05.05Hobinheim|workwhat a stupid domain name... lolz
14:05.10Kirkburn|afk:)
14:05.16Hobinheim|workwell where is it really?
14:05.19Kirkburn|afkThe address is actually .eu
14:05.29Hobinheim|workzomg! traitor!
14:05.35Kirkburn|afkBut you wouldn't know from browsing it
14:05.39Kirkburn|afklol
14:05.40Hobinheim|workhah it works
14:06.40Kirkburn|afkHobinheim|work, regarding the design
14:06.45Kirkburn|afkCheck out 24.wikia.com
14:07.00Hobinheim|workmemory alpha and uncyclopedia seem to be doing pretty well for themselves
14:07.07Hobinheim|workthey are wikia converts, if i understand correctly
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14:07.16Hobinheim|worki.e. just like us. independents that migrated to wikia and kept their domains
14:07.38Kirkburn|afkindeed
14:07.43Hobinheim|workmasked redirect, Kirkburn|afk, just as you said
14:07.49Hobinheim|workcheck out uncyclopedia.wikia vs uncyclopedia.com
14:08.14deltronmy fav. wiki is ed
14:08.18Kirkburn|afkSee, it'll all be fine :)
14:08.20Hobinheim|workif... it goes well. i'm in support of it. if it doesn't go well.. I WAS AGAINST IT!!!
14:08.34Kirkburn|afklol
14:21.21dottedKirkburn|afk lern me lua
14:21.36Kirkburn|afkhah
14:21.40Kirkburn|afkI'll have to learn first
14:28.23dottedWTB Code tool with auto-completion for Lua and the WoW and Ace2 API
14:28.38dottednow that would be phat
14:28.44Hobinheim|workyou mean a fully fledged LUA IDE with fakenized WoW environment
14:29.00Hobinheim|worksometimes i wonder if the blizzard UI is really written in lua
14:29.17Hobinheim|worki guess it is, judging from how certain things look, act, hook, and give errors
14:29.22Hobinheim|workbut at the same time it's very WTF?!
14:29.29dotteddoesnt have to be an IDE, but sure
14:31.21Teomyrwell, for that you need a complete and standardized API documentation first
14:32.18Hobinheim|workwell Teomyr the wiki community has pretty much stepped up and did that, in its formal absence
14:32.24Hobinheim|workyay!
14:32.56Hobinheim|worki'm sort of confused at this whole wiki design philosophy....
14:33.00Hobinheim|workwikis, by and large, look like shit
14:33.08Hobinheim|workmediawiki's monobook looks like /less/ shit
14:33.14Hobinheim|workand it's very usable and recognizable
14:33.23Hobinheim|workbut it has a weakness of not really allowing for expression
14:33.33Hobinheim|workand it pretty much exposes to the viewer how the site runs
14:33.49Hobinheim|workwe need to see some sexy looking mediawiki's that don't look like WP
14:33.59Teomyri really like the design of the wowace wiki
14:34.16Hobinheim|workit still has the square tabs at the top
14:34.21Hobinheim|workbut i do like the poker/ace theme a lot
14:34.26Hobinheim|workand it's still boxy
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14:40.21Kirkburn|afkTekkub just got me crying with laughter
14:40.43dotted:)?
14:40.45Hobinheim|workhow?
14:41.01Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Transclude "This article is a transcludable page, therefore it may only contain a few words, a tooltip, a price tag, a table, or a small puppy."
14:41.56Hobinheim|worki was thinking of when i grow up if i'll have a dog by my side
14:41.58dottedhmm
14:42.46Hobinheim|workwow bull3t is only 14 yo that's crazy
14:42.57Hobinheim|workthe internet is so :psyduck: about people's contributions vs their ages
14:43.34deltron:w-hat:
14:43.48Hobinheim|worki really like this page http://www.wowwiki.com/Jarien_and_Sothos/Loot_of_note
14:44.04Hobinheim|workdeltron, do you know SA emoticons?
14:44.12Hobinheim|workthere is a w-hat but i dunno how to type it
14:44.17deltronimg-timeline
14:44.25TeomyrHobinheim|work: guess who made that page :P
14:44.43deltronHobinheim|work: i have stairs
14:45.15Hobinheim|worki couldn't think of any other greeting besides something not PG and completely offensive
14:45.47dottedlike?
14:45.58Hobinheim|workFUCK YOU
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14:46.22Hobinheim|workoh i feel bad now
14:46.51Tuqui-tuqui>.>
14:47.25Tuqui-tuquizomg! I have the intraweb-herpes!
14:47.27Hobinheim|worka sexy disease
14:47.32Tuqui-tuquiiHerps
14:47.37Hobinheim|work:quagmire:
14:48.02Hobinheim|worki think they removed the w-hat so it isn't in my emoticon pack anymore
14:51.10Hobinheim|workTeomyr, nice page, i'm saving it for future reference
14:51.36Teomyrthank you. i was planning to do that for all dungeon set 2 bosses
14:51.46Teomyrand then make one big page where you can see the loot that they drop
14:51.50Hobinheim|workbest make it templatized before you continue
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14:52.15Hobinheim|workmy coworker is a nelf rogue, should i just oust him right now?
14:52.28Hobinheim|workforbid communication
14:52.33Teomyrdunno if i'll continue it. it's probably better to finish the wowhead extension first
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14:56.38Hobinheim|workare night elf rogues the bane of anyone?
14:56.55Hobinheim|worki know nelf hunters are....
15:02.26deltronNE *
15:06.14Kirkburn|afkIllidan now FA!
15:07.00Kirkburn|afkVote for more, people :)
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15:27.08eztipstsienibashy, got some problems with the wiki. Evry time i try to access the bosspages for Romeo &julianne, The Big Bad Wolve or  some other parts of the Karazhan-Boss-Pages i get  something like A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
15:27.09eztipstsienibas<PROTECTED>
15:27.11eztipstsienibasfrom within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doquery". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (localhost)".
15:27.50Tuqui-tuquiyeah, Ive had a couple of error with some of those exact links as well
15:31.13Tuqui-tuquiquestion regarding Kharazham: How many times can you run Khar in on day? Also, can you reset the raid multiple times?
15:32.16TecnoBratDoes anyone know if spell hit gear effects partial resists? Also, if it effects heartbeat checks on fear?
15:33.04Tuqui-tuquilotsa questions today :<
15:33.34winkillerTuqui-tuqui: it's a fixed 1week timer
15:33.40winkillerlike 40mans
15:33.48winkillerotherwise it would be loot paradise
15:33.51Tuqui-tuquiahhh
15:33.54Tuqui-tuquithanks you :D <3
15:34.03winkillernp
15:34.07winkillerreset is each maintenacne
15:34.16TecnoBratGruul / Mag are bugged on our server right now
15:34.24TecnoBratThere is no raid id being generated
15:34.32TecnoBratyou can kill them, soft reset, kill them again
15:36.49sancusthat's bliz kwality
15:37.22TecnoBratsome guilds are doing just that
15:37.29TecnoBratI'm staying away from that myself
15:37.56sancusit's likely safe
15:38.01sancuslast time that shit happened
15:38.06sancusall they did was 3-day suspensions
15:38.08TecnoBratseems too close to "knowingly exploiting a bug" but .. meh
15:38.09sancuswhich is loooollll
15:38.23Tuqui-tuqui:o
15:38.25Tuqui-tuquioh man... harsh
15:38.34amroyeah, 3 whole days
15:38.36Tuqui-tuquibut how are players suppose to know its a bug? :p
15:38.43sancusTecno: Yes, but when half your raiding population is knowingly exploiting a bug you can't very well permaban them all
15:38.51sancusso you slap on the wrist
15:39.22amroif it's just one guild they might permaban, but if there's more they won't
15:39.51sancuscourse there will be more :p
15:40.06TecnoBratsancus, true
15:40.42sancusI still dont understand how shit like that gets through testing
15:40.44TecnoBratTuqui-tuqui, you serious? a guild raiding a 25 man doesnt know that an instance not saving raid ids isnt a bug?
15:40.53Tuqui-tuquiI kid! I kid! ^_^
15:41.03TecnoBratthats what someone told me last night
15:41.08TecnoBratin gchat
15:41.18sancusthe obvious answer is "what testing?"
15:41.25TecnoBratsancus, heh
15:41.39sancusUNIT TESTS ARE GREEN SHIP IT
15:41.53sancus(if they even have those, I have my doubts)
15:42.09Kirkburn|afkEver the cynic :)
15:42.26TecnoBratclearly, they need more tests :P
15:42.38sancusThe day I'm no longer cynical of Blizzard Entertainment is the day you're shovelling dirt on my grave
15:43.08Kirkburn|afkWell that's fortunate, I was just thinking of shooting you later
15:43.51Kirkburn|afkOh god, did I just say that out loud?
15:44.17sancusbring it on bitch!
15:44.19Kitaneztips I am not having this problem... could you check again?
15:44.28Kitanhahahah!
15:44.32Kitanstupid window not scrolling
15:45.08Kirkburn|afkTime for the Redridge quests :D
15:45.29TecnoBratI just did all of the duskwood ones last night on my 26 shaman
15:45.42TecnoBratnow I gotta go back to RR, finish up some there
15:45.44sancusyou guys are consumer whores
15:45.45sancusjust fyi
15:45.53TecnoBratand then head back to duskwood again
15:46.08TecnoBratconsumer whores? COOL! I'm a whore!
15:49.47vlad_are consumer whores high-rent or low-rent whores?
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15:51.33sancusin this case low-rent, although it woudl depend on what consumer good you are whoring for
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15:56.34Devilkoulhttp://www.qj.net/WoW-player-harrasses-woman-in-game-gets-beat-up-by-woman-s-husband-IRL/pg/49/aid/91058
15:56.34Devilkoulhah
15:57.29Traebah, "World server is down"
15:57.34Devilkoulyea
15:57.45Devilkoulnath is freaking out this AM as well
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16:01.04Traedamn, Doomhammer is down but other realms aren't
16:01.05Trae:(
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16:03.40amroa bunch of realms are still down
16:04.27Tuqui-tuqui:o
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16:09.38Kitandepends on the consumption vlad
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16:32.33AdysLo <3
16:32.44Teomyrhi
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16:47.41dottedQuestion!
16:47.52dottedTo cockblock or not to cockblock on the wiki?
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16:49.01sancuspersonally I feel you should keep your cock away from the wiki
16:50.17Adysare you trying to get into teomyr's quotes again sancus? oO
16:51.17sancuslol
16:56.16dottedthen by latest revert is fine then
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18:14.36KirkburnAlmost half revered with SW now, just done Redridge :)
18:15.15KirkburnHeh, I have higher rep with SW than Exodar ^^
18:23.08DevilkoulSW rep matters?
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18:23.26abecxyes devil
18:23.34abecxfor when you need to repair etc ;p
18:23.37Devilkoul:P
18:23.47Devilkoulget off my lawn abe, this my channel
18:23.48Devilkoul:P
18:24.34abecxall the message boards, news sites, instant messages, and irc channels i visit are dead
18:24.37abecx:(
18:26.08Devilkoulman, i have to go to this lame ass seminar tonight to rep my company.  grrr no wow 4 me
18:26.29Devilkoulbetter be some hotty booth babes there
18:27.21abecxhttp://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/humpandpuke.gif  seriously lmfao everytime
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18:28.44Adys2010whatever
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18:29.01Bibi`ouF2010 ? rly ?
18:31.42dottedhttp://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3981/uwotcq3.jpg <- lol
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18:37.38KitanStorm wind?
18:37.45KitanBah stormwind
18:37.49KitanFor the Horde!
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18:58.03Tuqui-tuquiChildren's Week quests are not available to level 20 players???
18:59.46MatthewSwheee, i hear the tailoring nerfs are being backed otu
19:02.38Tuqui-tuquiyep
19:02.45Tuqui-tuquithey announced it yesterday :)
19:03.03MatthewSyeah, I just got the Spellfire set for my mage last week.  I was going to be a mite annoyed.
19:03.16MatthewSI figure if they are going to nerf it they should do it gradually
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19:06.09MatthewSdump the database, copy extensions & configs.
19:07.09Hobinheim|workis it that easy, MatthewS? is it that easy?
19:07.39MatthewSno, but close enough
19:08.31Hobinheim|workso, deltron, how long have you been, you know.
19:09.08MatthewSI'm me?  and in the spirit of disclosure I also work for Wikia
19:09.52Hobinheim|workto what capacity do you work for them?
19:09.58Hobinheim|workhave you been sent to spy on us?
19:10.08MatthewSsite operations, technical sides of things
19:10.14Hobinheim|workKirkburn is the sassy one.
19:10.18Hobinheim|workGryphen is the shy one.
19:10.21MatthewSwell, i elected so send myself to spy on you.
19:10.36Grypheno,O
19:10.40Hobinheim|workwell, what can you tell us about wikia
19:10.43Hobinheim|workto assuage my fears
19:10.50Hobinheim|workor to just assuage in general
19:10.50MatthewSi've been in here on and off for a bit.  wikia runs a bunch of channels on freenode so i have to be on irc anyway
19:10.58MatthewSwhat would you like to know?
19:11.04MatthewSwe have big bunches of wiki's
19:11.07Hobinheim|workwhy should i trust you guys
19:11.15Hobinheim|workor why is my paranoia unmerited
19:11.30Hobinheim|worki've a hard time finding bad press with the wikia conglomerate
19:11.34MatthewSumm, ok, i am not a community team member so im going to say things that wont sound right.
19:11.41Hobinheim|workand one of the pages on the site seems to openly avoid vendor lock in
19:11.49MatthewSyou shouldn't trust us, i dont see why you'd ever trust any provider of services completely
19:11.59Hobinheim|workas a technical fellow, i agree with you completely
19:12.22MatthewSwe're trying to provide space for communities to collect themselves and do their thing
19:12.39MatthewSwe are a business, we have to find a model that is profitable. so we have our priorities, as a you community you have yours.
19:12.49MatthewShow we intersect, that's the fun of discussion i guess
19:13.16Hobinheim|workhave you ever heard of podshow?
19:13.18MatthewSnope
19:13.48Hobinheim|workpodshow is this... thing. it's like wikia. some douche decided to wrangle up any podcasts that were interested... to monetize their otherwise free work. i dunno if you're familiar with podcasts in general
19:14.05Hobinheim|workanyway... turned out to be really shady. promises not kept. rebranding of things. very sketchy
19:14.11Hobinheim|workhow do we know this won't turn out like podshow
19:14.38MatthewSi can't honestly make any claims that it would or wouldn't.
19:14.44Hobinheim|workhmm...
19:14.48Hobinheim|workwhat do you like aobut wikia?
19:14.56Hobinheim|workmore importantly, what DON'T you like about wikia?
19:15.23MatthewSwell, i believe the people mean well.  they seem to have an almost naive view at times of how this will work. it's kind of refreshing
19:15.23KirkburnHobinheim|work, stop being so paranoid!
19:15.39Hobinheim|workKirkburn, stop being so idealistic!
19:15.53KirkburnI'm not, I'm just not spending my life worrying
19:15.56Hobinheim|workyeah i'm not even totally sure of your profit model tbh
19:16.08KirkburnIt's a done deal, y'know
19:16.19Hobinheim|workit's never done, in SPAARTA
19:16.30GryphenHobinheim|work i wouldnt worry about it much, you wont change that it's going to wikia
19:16.38Gryphenheh
19:16.43MatthewSi think we have some interesting issues in how we do things as the company is so spread out around the world
19:16.57Hobinheim|workGryphen, i can at least illuminate some concerns that people have that they're too chicken to ask themselves
19:17.19GryphenWhat will it do?
19:17.21Hobinheim|workMatthewS, it's not just a local company that happens to deal with virtualized products?
19:17.28Hobinheim|workit can bring us answers
19:17.44Hobinheim|workyou don't just walk into a dark tunnel with the smell of cheese
19:17.48Hobinheim|workyou gotta play it safe
19:17.54MatthewSand no, the profit model isn't entirely worked out. we are a startup and we're venture funded right now
19:18.22MatthewSthat depends, is it wine cured goat cheesE?
19:18.28MatthewScause i tend to walk pretty much anywhere for that
19:18.33Hobinheim|worki dunno as long as it's not slimey cheese
19:18.51MatthewSwell, there's an office of 6-7 people in san mateo, california
19:18.55MatthewSthere's 4 people in nyc
19:18.57Hobinheim|workthere's not enough skepticism in the world...
19:19.02MatthewSa couple in england.
19:19.12Hobinheim|worki'm not saying everybody don your tinfoil hats, although that would be a good idea...
19:19.20MatthewSand then you can go and click on the about_wikia links on the site to find all the other countries people are in
19:20.00Hobinheim|workthat's cool
19:20.00Hobinheim|worki gather uncyclopedia and memory alpha are your biggest sites
19:20.00MatthewSand we have then another...13-15 people in poland
19:20.10MatthewSsounds like a personal issue :)
19:20.16Hobinheim|workbut that's a lot of people =)
19:21.12MatthewSuncyc and m-a are among our larger ones
19:21.45Hobinheim|workwhat's your two largest?
19:22.13Hobinheim|workwhat of your smaller wikis? are there any plans to purge wikia of smaller bodies or its it strictly on a growth plan for now?
19:22.32Hobinheim|workalso, where on your rank of large wikis would we be if we joined, given our statistics page
19:22.41MatthewSdepends on what you call largest, from my POV uncyc and wookipedia generate the most traffic i see
19:23.30MatthewSwe are working out what to do with smaller/dead wikis. i dont think there's a specific plan on that yet
19:24.44Gryphenhttp://www.wikia.com/wiki/World_of_Warcraft
19:24.46Gryphenheh
19:25.10MatthewSim going to say you'll probably be among the top 5.
19:25.13Hobinheim|workwait wtf is that?
19:25.37Hobinheim|workalso... how do you compare to mediawiki if you're a forked version?
19:25.45Hobinheim|workphew thank god the ydon't have a lot of pages
19:25.48Hobinheim|workwe can just eat them
19:26.35MatthewSwe don't fork much from MW
19:26.44vlad_hey MatthewS!
19:26.49MatthewSallo vlad
19:26.50Hobinheim|workjust a couple hooks to handle multiple users and special databases i bet?
19:27.11MatthewSwe have a universal db for users for most of our wikis
19:27.28Hobinheim|workis our views thing broken or what?
19:27.36MatthewSwe do have a set of in house extensions and those require attention when we upgrade versions
19:28.18Hobinheim|workcompared to other wikis on the largest wikis site, we have a disproportionately large number of page views
19:28.32MatthewSand yeah, wikia has some WoW content, mostly related to some various realms
19:28.44Hobinheim|workterrible. assimilate them ALL
19:29.24Hobinheim|workwtf is a qweki and a richdex...
19:30.32Hobinheim|workin no way are these sites forreal forreal
19:30.42Hobinheim|workhttp://s23.org/wikistats/largest_html.php
19:30.53Hobinheim|workseems like spam to me
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19:31.27Hobinheim|workMatthewS, are you a programmer?
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19:31.47MatthewSnope
19:32.04Hobinheim|workhmm... what do you do then?
19:32.07MatthewSwell, i spend time writing bits of code. but i dont consider myself a programmer
19:32.11Hobinheim|workare you a DBA?
19:32.17Hobinheim|workan admin?
19:32.30MatthewScall me an admin
19:32.45Hobinheim|workyou can call me al
19:32.52Hobinheim|workbahh dap bap bap, bahh dap bap bap
19:32.56MatthewS...
19:33.02Hobinheim|workdum dum beh, bahh dap bap bap
19:33.07xb95back away slowly, very slowly.
19:33.10xb95just smile and nod and he might not attack.
19:33.11MatthewSim going that...
19:33.12GryphenHobinheim|work gets the good drugs
19:33.14sancusdon't worry about Hob, he's sort of the mascot
19:33.17Hobinheim|worklol
19:33.22Hobinheim|workyay!
19:34.25KitanWikia is on apache?
19:34.28Kitannot lighttpd?
19:34.29MatthewSyes
19:34.32MatthewSno
19:34.45Hobinheim|workzomg why apache
19:34.55Hobinheim|worki thought all the big boys used lighttpd
19:35.02sancuserr no
19:35.06Grypheno,O
19:35.16Kaydeethree...
19:35.26sancusother way around really, lighty is the exception..
19:35.41deltronlighttpd is generally for the image servers IIRC
19:35.45MatthewSit's here and it works. i'm going to be quite pleased to look at what vlad has done with lighttpd and see what optimizations we can make.
19:36.25Hobinheim|workthe ideal scenario would be me going on and on about tin foil hats
19:36.36Hobinheim|workand then the switch happens and i'm like DON'T DO THE SWITCH EVERYTHING WILL CHANGE
19:36.43Hobinheim|workand then you say, but hob, we already did the switch three weeks ago
19:36.46MatthewSah, you spent a few days hunting for your tin foil hat recipe in april, didnt you?
19:36.49Hobinheim|workTHAT would abe a successful migration
19:37.16Hobinheim|workwait so you play wow? or you like reading and understanding blizzard april fools announcements?
19:37.32Hobinheim|workboth are equally sad
19:37.35MatthewSi have a 70 mage, 65 war, 61 priest, whole host of random little banking alts
19:37.42MatthewSyes, i am ;)
19:37.51Hobinheim|workzomg
19:37.58MatthewSim out here in sunny california and im not out being a beach bum.
19:38.27MatthewSsince i grew up in soggy old NY i think i should be camped on the beach with a laptop working, but nobody really wants to agree with me.
19:38.45MatthewSok, that's why i dont like wikia :)
19:38.49Hobinheim|workwhere did you grow up!
19:38.53vlad_I totally agree
19:38.54Hobinheim|worki just moved to astoria!!!
19:38.58vlad_crappy day here in california today
19:39.04vlad_I guess it became acceptably sunny
19:39.13Gryphencrappy day in seattle :)
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19:39.23Gryphenwe sent it down
19:39.24vlad_I don't think anyone's really realized how many engineers in california want to be beach bums
19:39.30vlad_there's a huge untapped market
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19:39.42vlad_someone needs to just provide beach wireless access, as well as comfy lounge chairs
19:39.43MatthewSi've lived in rego park, elmhurst, bushwick, westbury (nassau), and lower manhattan
19:40.09dottedHobinheim|work http://wiki.ytmnd.com/Main_Page there is a nice looking wiki for ya :D
19:40.31Hobinheim|worki'm always afraid to click on ytmnd's... they tag so long to load
19:40.35Gryphenugh
19:40.42MatthewSvlad: im waiting for someone to set something like that up in santa cruz.
19:40.51Hobinheim|workzuhh i don't know all those neighborhoods. i'm just a jersey boy with a dream
19:41.05MatthewSelmhurst/rego park is right near astoria :)
19:41.06Hobinheim|works/tag/take
19:41.31Hobinheim|workyou know what else is near astoria, FRESH DIRECT, BUT THEY DON'T DELIVER TO MY HOUSE. unbelievable...
19:41.44MatthewSof course, astoria is "far away"
19:42.21Tuqui-tuquiAstoria is like 10 minutes from Manhattan >.>
19:42.27Tuqui-tuquithats not far -.-
19:42.52Tuqui-tuquiI use to live in Rego Park, now I live in Kew Gardens ^_^
19:43.13MatthewSoh where abouts?
19:43.45MatthewSi have fond memories of rego park, it's where i got ticketed for jaywalking
19:43.46Tuqui-tuquiQueens Blvd and Main Street
19:43.55Tuqui-tuquiI like to live close the subway
19:44.02Tuqui-tuquiyou mean Rego Park?
19:44.08MatthewSyeah :)
19:44.15Tuqui-tuqui<PROTECTED>
19:44.19Tuqui-tuquiI had a studio there
19:44.25vlad_grr
19:44.34vlad_people shouldn't be allowed to schedule me for interviews at 4pm on a friday
19:44.56vlad_that's practically MFBT
19:47.45MatthewSi should be in san jose. so im going to disappear
19:49.06dottedHobinheim|work that wiki isnt a ytmnd -.-
19:49.44Adys|afknn peeps
19:50.38Hobinheim|worknewyorkwiki.com
19:50.46Hobinheim|workmean failure between time?
19:51.03Hobinheim|workmother fucking bad ttttttttttttttform?
19:55.06Gryphen-.-
19:59.09Hobinheim|workhey let's say you have a wiki... that's still growing
19:59.20Hobinheim|workand you keep adding pages, but they should be linked to other pages...
19:59.25Hobinheim|workwhat's the best way to go about that?
19:59.33Hobinheim|worki'm sort of just adding the page names to the Main Page
19:59.38Hobinheim|worksorta like a glossary?
19:59.42Hobinheim|worki dunno it feels weird
20:18.46vlad_Hobinheim|work: mother f'ing beer time!
20:18.46Hobinheim|workhappy hour
20:18.52Hobinheim|workor "any reason is a good reason"
20:18.59Hobinheim|works/f'ing/fucking
20:22.17Hobinheim|workhttp://www.qj.net/WoW-player-harrasses-woman-in-game-gets-beat-up-by-woman-s-husband-IRL/pg/49/aid/91058
20:24.22Devilkoulbout 4 hours late, beat ya to it!
20:24.22Devilkoul:P
20:25.06KirkburnHobinheim|work, as much as I love your love of swear words, I don't think you need to 'fix' other people's too
20:26.00KirkburnYou're forumulating a response, I can tell :)
20:26.22KirkburnOr you're just slow. One of the two.
20:27.01dottedor randomly afk
20:27.12amrohttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100340669&sid=1&pageNo=1
20:27.22KirkburnI include that in "slow", noone has an excuse to be afk ^^
20:28.01dotted<- afk
20:28.29dottedor rather af-freenode
20:28.53dottedim on too many irc networks
20:29.14Hobinheim|work?
20:31.22dottedidd
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20:43.29KirkburnWoo, 61.1% revered with SW, and still only level 28
20:45.35Devilkoulso that flight to STV costs you 50c instead of 75c?
20:45.36Devilkoul:P
20:45.47Tekkubgo you, you're so close to getting a shitty horse
20:46.35Devilkouli did the exalted grind on my gnome mage back in the day when it was rough.. before cloth turn ins
20:46.56Devilkoulsupply box to blasted lands ftl
20:47.04Devilkoul600 some odd times
20:47.17Tek09f911029d74ethere was a repeatable?
20:47.19Devilkoulyea
20:47.30Teomyr<3 aq war effort
20:47.35Tek09f911029d74eI thought they added the cloth because it was literally impossible to get exalted
20:47.39DevilkoulThe Lost Supplies
20:47.44Devilkoulna
20:47.56Tek09f911029d74emaybe hoomons were special
20:48.09Devilkoul+25 rep with SW per completion
20:48.12Devilkoulhttp://www.thottbot.com/q1423
20:48.14vlad_lol Tek
20:48.25vlad_(@ nick)
20:48.33Devilkoulhah, nice1
20:48.45Teomyris that a reference to something?
20:48.49dot09f911029d74eTek09f911029d74e what should i do with my domian www.09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.dk?
20:48.51Tek09f911029d74eheya vlad, should I slip the key up to the wiki somewhere and see if we can score us one of those cease and decists?
20:49.10vlad_ugh
20:49.12vlad_please no :)
20:49.30Tek09f911029d74enot sure dot
20:49.35dot09f911029d74eTeomyr click on my link
20:49.35dot09f911029d74e*rawr*
20:49.55Kasooh god, theyre still at it with those keys
20:49.57dot09f911029d74eimba vhost for a bnc :p
20:50.01Kasodid i say that out loud?
20:50.56Tek09f911029d74ecome on kaso, you know you want to put on your black eyeshadow and lipstick and rebel with us
20:51.04Kasohaha
20:51.11Kasosounds appealing
20:52.10dot09f911029d74ehttp://diggforgreatjustice.ytmnd.com/
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20:57.07Teomyromg! look at my hostmask!!!11
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20:57.22deltronlol
20:57.32deltronyou seem to be very excited about ipv6
20:57.55Teomyri just wanted to show off how 1337 i am
20:58.03dot09f911029d74eTeomyr OMG IPv6
20:58.05dot09f911029d74e!!!
20:58.06dot09f911029d74e1111111111
20:58.08dot09f911029d74elol
20:58.09dot09f911029d74elal
20:58.10dot09f911029d74elyyl
20:58.11dot09f911029d74e:D
20:58.15dot09f911029d74espam -.-
20:58.17*** kick/#WOWWIKI [dot09f911029d74e!n=gryphon@mail.alexdevco.com] by Gryphen (OWNED - 199 Kicks -)
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20:58.37dot09f911029d74eGryphen sucks :((((
20:58.44dot09f911029d74eTek09f911029d74e slap him
21:00.36Tek09f911029d74e:P
21:01.58Hobinheim|workwow tek is a hyper dvd nerd
21:02.12Hobinheim|workoh nine.... whoa ooo oh.... efff nice....
21:02.20Hobinheim|workuhh.... eleven... oh two ooooooo....
21:02.28Tek09f911029d74e:P
21:02.48Tek09f911029d74eI doubt I'll ever own an HDDVD anyway
21:02.58Hobinheim|worki don't even know what that stuff is
21:03.13Teomyrit's funny how things as small as 128 bit can be so important and valuable
21:03.37Tek09f911029d74ethe industrie's attempt to get rid of a prefectly fine medium they think is broken
21:04.02Tek09f911029d74eand attempt to convince people they need a higher resolution on their video watchering
21:04.34Tek09f911029d74ewhen the mass majority of what they watch is still shitty 30FPS interlaced shit
21:05.58Tek09f911029d74eagreed hob, with their whole new design of upgradable shitty protection, it's just gonna make the hacking even funner to watch
21:06.31Hobinheim|workno i meant i just want to watch whatever. heroes, spaceballs, porn, etc
21:06.43deltronhehe
21:06.44Tek09f911029d74ecause you know in the end the hackers with a passion for freeing the content will work faster than the code monkeys who are only doing it for the shiney pennies
21:07.06Tek09f911029d74epfft, you get your shows on DVD and not BT?
21:08.27Tek09f911029d74ehttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Reputation&curid=14694&diff=620503&oldid=612786&rcid=532874
21:08.47Tek09f911029d74ethis is the second time he's done that
21:09.17Tek09f911029d74enot more intuitive when the number next to a level doesn't match the game if you ask me
21:10.00Tek09f911029d74eand he only "fixed" half of the reps to his shitty new system
21:10.53*** join/#wowwiki Sandwichman2448 (n=cyrillpi@80.167.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com)
21:13.16Devilkouli think im getting punked... one of my clients didnt like the design i did and sent me this, http://www.exoticmanzanita.com, as an example of a site that is ""Wow!  What a cool looking site!!"
21:13.24winkillerTek09f911029d74e: it's not exactly new. also armory also uses absolute numbers
21:13.35winkillerI'd prefer to have both systems in that table..
21:14.25Tek09f911029d74ehrm?
21:14.42winkillerif you talk about that 21000..
21:14.45winkillerbah, I'm blind
21:14.46winkillernvm
21:15.11winkillerbut blizzard uses a scale from -39000 to *calc* sth like +42000 for rep
21:15.31Tek09f911029d74eif anything, keep the old numbers and add a second cloumn, total rep needed from Neutral-0 to get this rep
21:15.41Hobinheim|workwow that is a cool looking site
21:16.05Teomyrwow Devilkoul! what a cool looking site!
21:16.06Devilkoul:P
21:16.09Devilkoulbasterds
21:16.25winkillerlol
21:16.33Devilkoulneeds more inner bevel and comic sans imo
21:17.35Teomyrit also lacks some marquee java applets
21:18.39Zicondevilkoul: Honestly, there's only one solution. Your client is too far gone. You'll have to put him down. Here, have a shotgun.
21:18.52Devilkouli just got the go ahead on that
21:19.03Kirk09f911029d74I'm leik totally with the times!
21:20.06Tek09f911029d74ego kirk go
21:20.15Kirk09f911029d74:D
21:20.20Tek09f911029d74ewe'll show those MPAA assholes!
21:20.34Kirk09f911029d74I saw the stuff earlier today, wish I'd seen digg when it was going on
21:21.51winkillerwhy do you have such strange names?
21:22.19Gryphenread the internet much winkiller?
21:22.20winb36d331451a61oh, automatic nicklength.. that's a reason
21:22.35winb36d331451a61Gryphen: zero today
21:22.35Kirk09f911029d74It's a hexadecimal riddle!
21:22.37Sandwichman2448I want one.
21:22.41Kirk09f911029d74http://digg.com/tech_news/Digg_s_DRM_Revolt_Forbes_com
21:22.42winb36d331451a61oh, hex?
21:22.44winb36d331451a61I tried md5
21:23.10Kirk09f911029d74"When the site's administrators attempted to prevent users from posting links to pages revealing the copyright encryption key for HD-DVD discs, Digg's users rebelled. Hundreds of references to the code flooded the site's submissions, filling its main pages and overwhelming the administrators' attempts to control the site's content."
21:23.24Hobinheim|worknerd rebellion
21:23.25Kirk09f911029d74The encryption key is our names :)
21:23.35Kirk09f911029d74(part of, at least)
21:23.43Kirk09f911029d74Off to buy dinner, brb
21:23.46Sandwichman2448KEWL
21:24.21Hob8675309whoa ooo whoa ooo ohhh oh.... jenny jenny, who can i turn to...
21:24.45Hob8675309bwow, doo wow, bwow bwow doo wah doh wah doh
21:26.30winb36d331451a61http://digg.com/political_opinion/11_year_old_girl_kills_2_armed_illegle_home_invaders
21:29.19Hob8675309hmm
21:29.22Hob8675309that sounds rough
21:29.29Devilkoulyea, just read that... sucks for them
21:29.38Devilkoul" Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine"
21:29.39Devilkoulrofl
21:30.13Hob8675309if i focus really hard, i can hear the sound that someone makes when they focus their chakra
21:30.22Hob8675309you guys watch naruto?
21:30.52Sandwichman2448Did you see there is a new Son of Storm on the site? He is the guy that makes the amazing chaicter consepts and cover are for stuff!
21:30.58Sandwichman2448DEATH TO ANIME!!!!!!!
21:31.06Sandwichman2448DIE DIE DIE!
21:31.18Sandwichman2448THE CORRUPTION RUNS DEEP!
21:31.30Sandwichman2448Ahem...
21:32.50Tek09f911029d74ehrm... MW got an option to always collapse the TOC by default, I'm about sick of them
21:33.09Tek09f911029d74eI rarely use em, and they're always in the way of the page flow somewhere
21:33.10Hob8675309Kirk09f911029d74, how is the main page editable/maintainable if it doesn't use standard headers and edit links
21:33.50Hob8675309maybe it's just a mess... i've never maintained the main page, cept that one time with the infernal party...
21:34.04Hob8675309i'm copying the wowwiki layout for my company's internal doc wiki
21:36.01Tek09f911029d74e"Show table of contents (for pages with more than 3 headings)" ... appears to have no effect
21:36.18Tek09f911029d74eno matter, I'll use FF addin + css majicks to jus make them go away
21:36.32Hob8675309Tek09f911029d74e, do the wikicode buttons work for you on wowwiki?
21:36.41Hob8675309they weren't working for me in safari last night, in addition to firefox yesterday
21:36.52Tek09f911029d74ethewa?
21:37.25Hob8675309when you edit pages, there are buttons that insert wiki code
21:37.27Hob8675309like insert signature
21:37.30Hob8675309do those work for you?
21:37.32Tek09f911029d74enever use em
21:39.17Hob8675309can you try?
21:40.08Sandwichman2448Hello everybody.
21:40.19amroHob8675309: they don't work here either
21:40.22amroSandwichman2448: hi
21:40.53Hob8675309*sigh* i think they got broken at some point in time
21:40.56Hob8675309amro, thanks for reporting
21:41.29amroHob8675309: looking at the source, it seems the code was commented out
21:41.41amrooh wait nvm
21:42.40Hob8675309arg you can't transclude HTML... booo
21:42.47Hob8675309like partially complete html....
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21:44.39Hob8675309yay partial wikicode works
21:52.21Kirk09f911029d74"how is the main page editable/maintainable if it doesn't use standard headers and edit links" <-- I use the "edit this page" button >.<
21:55.06KasoI dont like tha tlook of that Kaos guy
21:55.14KasoWorringly close to my name!
21:55.45Kirk09f911029d74lol
21:56.22Sandwichman2448A oerson said on this that my name is weird... is that true?
21:56.30Sandwichman2448Person
21:57.20winkillertoo many digits confuse people
21:57.24winkillerlike 4
21:57.38Sandwichman2448Look at kickburns new name
21:57.46Sandwichman2448NVM
21:57.48KirkburnWhat new name!?
21:57.49winkillerit's temporary
21:57.50winkiller:P
21:57.53KasoHaha
21:57.53Sandwichman2448LOL
21:58.25Hob8675309why, are they wrong?
21:58.33winkillersome genius didn't unequip the pants ion draenei for example
21:58.40winkiller"starting stats"
21:58.46Sandwichman2448...
21:58.47winkillerfor me clearly without armor
21:58.56winkillereven if it's 40->42 :P
22:00.16winkillerStromrage gets some new hunters
22:00.22winkillerguess I may as well check the other races
22:01.37Sandwichman2448Anyone see my Tuskarr female consept for my rumors page? I hate to toot my own horn but it's funny.
22:01.53Sandwichman2448Is it vandalism?
22:02.10Sandwichman2448DO NOT BAN ME PLEASE!
22:02.25Grypheno,O
22:03.10Tek09f911029d74eokey my wikilife just got happier
22:03.10Sandwichman2448What?
22:03.22Sandwichman2448It may be innapropreae.
22:03.32Tek09f911029d74eI removed TOCs from showing
22:04.04Sandwichman2448Sorry.
22:05.04Sandwichman2448Did anyone see it?
22:07.13Hob8675309gg
22:07.14Hob8675309laters
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22:07.26Sandwichman2448Bye
22:12.48winkillerwtf? tauren hunters get no shoes
22:15.38winkillerok, hunter starting stats fixed for all races
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22:40.07Sandwichman2448Hellio
22:40.14Sandwichman2448Hello
22:42.34Kasohey ho!
22:42.36Kasolets go!
22:43.34Sandwichman2448K
22:44.12Sandwichman2448Go where?
22:49.35Sandwichman2448Kaso?
22:49.44Sandwichman2448Hello?
22:50.48Kasorawr
22:50.54Gryphenono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle.
22:50.55Kasoits a line from a song
22:51.54Sandwichman2448Makes an emote to hug the birdlion.
22:54.31Kasoinfobot, hug Gryphen
22:54.41infobotACTION jumps into Gryphen's lap and huggles and *hugs* Gryphen
22:54.41Kasodoes infobot hug?
22:54.49Kasohe does!
22:55.04Sandwichman2448He not a person... how he do things?
22:55.20winkillerisn't Spi/SPI more common than Spr?
22:55.39Sandwichman2448Spee spi spappy
22:57.05Sandwichman2448How does infobot do stuff? is not he just a program?
22:57.07Kasoi think it depends on what sort of rpg background you come from
22:57.31Kasoyah but what is "stuff" if not data packets
22:57.40Kasoare you being silly?
22:58.56zeegO.o
22:58.56Sandwichman2448is he autonomus or is someone controlling him?
22:59.28GryphenSandwich you call a taco a pie?
22:59.30zeeginfobot:, who is zeeg
22:59.33infobotzeeg: what are you talking about?
22:59.35zeegerm
22:59.36zeeg-.-
22:59.39zeeginfobot: zeeg is my hero
22:59.41infobot...but zeeg is already something else...
22:59.46zeeg:<
22:59.48zeegwhat is zeeg
23:00.01zeegsomeone make it work :<
23:00.10Sandwichman2448FOR THE OVERMIND!
23:00.18zeeginfobot: Sandwichman2448 is crazy
23:00.20infobotokay, zeeg
23:00.31Grypheninfobot, no zeeg is is crazy
23:00.33infobotGryphen: okay
23:00.36zeegno wy!
23:00.38zeegit lies
23:00.57Sandwichman2448ME NAM CUZ I LUK 2 EET FUD! WOOOOOOO...T! I am not crazy.
23:01.30Sandwichman2448Eehehehehehe!
23:02.38Sandwichman2448why do you call me insane?
23:04.54Sandwichman2448So... Can I advertize my speculation page? NO? OK.
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23:07.25Sandwichman2448HI!
23:09.55KasoYou're slightly scary
23:12.31Sandwichman2448Why? :(
23:13.16Sandwichman2448?
23:13.17Sandwichman2448?
23:18.23TecnoBratSLIGHTLY?!
23:18.30TecnoBrat.... I think thats an understatement
23:18.54TecnoBrat~zeeg
23:18.57infobotwell, zeeg is is crazy
23:19.09zeegno infobot, zeeg is your hero
23:19.14zeegerr
23:19.18zeeginfobot, no zeeg is your hero
23:19.20infobotzeeg: okay
23:19.21zeegyay!@
23:19.24TecnoBratinfobot, no zeeg is crazy
23:19.26infobotokay, TecnoBrat
23:19.30TecnoBrat:P
23:19.34zeegjerk
23:19.36KasoIs Sandwichman2448 serious? or is it some big gimmic?
23:19.38TecnoBrathaha
23:19.45TecnoBrathes a gimmick imo
23:20.37Sandwichman2448I'm a gimmik?
23:21.24GryphenSandwichman is the real ihazcheezburger
23:23.17Sandwichman2448No...
23:23.29Sandwichman2448I'm not! <:(
23:23.48Sandwichman2448I'm not a vandal!
23:24.09Sandwichman2448I hame made vagely useful contribs!
23:26.00Sandwichman2448*Cries*
23:26.44Sandwichman2448I am not scary creepy or insane. Thank you.
23:27.32winkillerWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
23:27.53winkillerwhich colorblind colorvandalized that page? http://www.wowwiki.com/Felstalker_Armor
23:27.56TecnoBratNow you made me look at your contribs
23:28.03TecnoBrathttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Worn_Shortsword&diff=prev&oldid=620595
23:28.03TecnoBratlol
23:30.30Sandwichman2448What is wrong with that?
23:30.55TecnoBratjust your comment :P
23:30.58Sandwichman2448?
23:31.09Sandwichman2448Explain.
23:31.40TecnoBrat"That is the stupidest argument I have ever seen."
23:31.59Sandwichman2448How is that wrong?
23:32.01TecnoBratmade me laugh :P
23:32.06Sandwichman2448Oh...
23:32.14TecnoBratnote the "lol" from above
23:32.38Sandwichman2448LOL... Thank you. See: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Sandwichman2448
23:34.07winkillerhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Guild:Nihilum_%28Magtheridon_EU%29&curid=34294&diff=614100&oldid=607192&rcid=526445
23:34.54Sandwichman2448That is very biased
23:35.57winkillerdunno. calling the Guildleader of one of world's "best" guilds in terms of progressions talented is hardly biased
23:36.18winkillerthat's like saysing "they won the the worldcup, they are talented"
23:36.32winkillerbut well, it's just funny :P
23:36.38TecnoBratI would say all of the members of that guild are talented
23:36.58TecnoBratHard to do what they do without being talented .. /shrug
23:37.03Sandwichman2448He does not prove how he is talented, if theyy won the world cup, that is evidence.
23:39.24Sandwichman2448Umm... how am I a gimmick?
23:40.17winkillerpff, no 250club :( so I need. 230 more edits..
23:41.40Sandwichman2448How many moree do I need?
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23:43.07Sandwichman2448Hello again.
23:44.19winkillerSandwichman2448: go to "mnmy contributions", click "100" and count pages by using "next 100"
23:46.58Sandwichman2448oh...
23:48.21Sandwichman2448Am I in the 500 club?
23:50.39Sandwichman2448Am I? I do't mean to be rude.
23:52.18Sandwichman2448Umm... I am! Why are not I in the club?
23:52.46winkilleryou have to invite yourself I guess
23:54.31Sandwichman2448Oh... how do you allign a pic in the center of a page?
23:56.00Kaydeethree"<center>stuff</center>"?
23:59.13Sandwichman2448IT WORKS! thank you.

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