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| 00:06.24 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/30/hybrid-theory-getting-into-raids-as-an-off-spec/ |
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| 00:12.13 | zeeg | hrm |
| 00:12.19 | zeeg | how is my ntfs drive readable in mac os but unrecognized in windows |
| 00:13.44 | amro | lol |
| 00:14.13 | amro | i once force-mounted an ntfs partition with ntfs-3g. next time I booted windows scandisk spent an hour working on it |
| 00:14.27 | Colamage | LOL |
| 00:15.37 | zeeg | how do you get it to run scandisk w/o it trying to format |
| 00:16.02 | amro | it ran automatically at startup and I couldn't skip it |
| 00:16.17 | zeeg | hrm |
| 00:19.48 | Kaso | is ntfs-3g fully write safe? |
| 00:20.26 | amro | Kaso: Not sure. I had problems writing large files with older versions |
| 00:20.33 | amro | I'd avoid writing to NTFS though |
| 00:20.47 | amro | and run ntfsfix when done |
| 00:21.02 | Kaso | mm, i havent looked at ntfs writing for ages, wondered how things were progressing |
| 00:21.54 | amro | does vista use a different version of ntfs? |
| 00:23.38 | Kaso | http://www.msblog.org/index.php/2005/09/16/ntfs-changes-in-vista-any-changes/ |
| 00:26.48 | zeeg | `whats ntfs fix |
| 00:30.04 | amro | linux commandline utility, like chkdsk but not as capable |
| 00:30.20 | amro | comes with ntfsprogs deb package I think |
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| 00:38.11 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Spymaster |
| 00:46.16 | Kaso | Howcome all these are written with female pronouns ? |
| 00:47.20 | foxlit | "her way into the enemy's trus" |
| 00:52.26 | Bagginsww | hello |
| 00:52.36 | Bagginsww | kaso I wish I knew |
| 00:53.05 | Kaso | Fair enough |
| 00:53.09 | Bagginsww | I think its something writers have done more recently to give women "strength" when tradtionally "he" was used for male and women. |
| 00:53.23 | Bagginsww | a form of PC, :p |
| 00:53.27 | Kaso | hehe |
| 00:53.33 | Bagginsww | although in some cases the classes might be more females than males |
| 00:53.44 | Bagginsww | or traditional example is female |
| 00:54.07 | Bagginsww | Like the iconic garona for the spymaster, :) |
| 00:54.39 | Kaso | Well true for spymaster, but the shadow asecendant article earlier was the same. |
| 00:55.59 | Kaso | from my perspective "he" can, (or perhaps should), be used as an un-genered pronoun. |
| 00:56.06 | Kaso | This silly PCness frustrates me |
| 01:03.43 | Bagginsww | kaso I agree |
| 01:03.52 | Bagginsww | and your welcome to re-edit if you like |
| 01:04.12 | Bagginsww | I was simply in a hurry rather than doing it myself... |
| 01:04.12 | Kaso | Nah, if its in the book like that i recon it should be on the wiki like that |
| 01:04.48 | Bagginsww | well I generally remove all refrences to he and him if I can, preferring to go for a more neutral plural case |
| 01:04.53 | Bagginsww | but that takes more work to reedit |
| 01:05.05 | Bagginsww | he, him, her, she, etc |
| 01:05.15 | Bagginsww | to "they", them, their etc |
| 01:05.37 | Bagginsww | But ya Kaso if you think certain articles would be better in male-pronounds go ahead. |
| 01:05.50 | Bagginsww | I'm sure the articles probalby need spell checks too |
| 01:06.02 | Bagginsww | don't always see if I've mispelled |
| 01:08.17 | Bagginsww | btw kaso the book seems to alternate between, she and he pronounds, like they are tying to give both sides equal merit :p |
| 01:08.53 | Kaso | I wonder if theres someone who's job it is to make sure there is equal distrobution of them both |
| 01:08.56 | Kaso | hehe |
| 01:10.43 | *** part/#wowwiki zeeg (n=zeeg@69.109.103.158) |
| 01:16.00 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 01:17.48 | Bagginsww | Luckily I only have one more to unstub, and then its just expanding on some of hte others a bit |
| 01:18.47 | Bagginsww | in some cases the basic heading for the class is very short, and to get more lore you have to read between the lines of the "abilities" lists |
| 01:18.49 | Bagginsww | literally |
| 01:19.04 | Bagginsww | they have bits of lore dispersed between the gameplay mechanics |
| 01:30.53 | Adys | Im thinking of a template |
| 01:31.05 | Adys | that would be used on the wowwiki shortcut redirects |
| 01:31.19 | Adys | im wondering |
| 01:31.22 | Adys | ill test brb |
| 01:33.06 | Kirkburn|afk | oooh |
| 01:33.25 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind#Shadows_.26_Light_cover_.3D_Not_Tyrande |
| 01:36.57 | Skosiris | [18:01] <Fisker-> Skosiris failed to answer my question then! |
| 01:37.05 | Skosiris | [17:56] <dotted> Skosiris!! |
| 01:37.10 | Skosiris | what's going on? :o |
| 01:37.15 | Adys | awww that sucks |
| 01:37.33 | Adys | cant use templates in redirect pages |
| 01:37.40 | Skosiris | hey you, Adys |
| 01:37.48 | Adys | hey you, Skosiris |
| 01:37.51 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:EL |
| 01:38.40 | Kirkburn|afk | The link is broken :P |
| 01:39.08 | Kirkburn|afk | But the idea is cool |
| 01:42.59 | Adys | MatthewS: ping |
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| 01:48.34 | Manga_gelada | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Manga_gelada, what do you mean? |
| 01:52.02 | Manga_gelada | world of warcraft |
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| 01:52.16 | Kaso | i think he was questioning "good" not "wow" |
| 01:52.52 | Kirkburn|afk | yarr |
| 01:53.35 | Kaso | Most servers have good latecey, no/low queues (some have queues but if your starting a new account pick a lower pop one), they go down most weeks on tues/wed for maintainance which normally lasts from like 3-10 but sometimes extends into the afternoon if things go wrong |
| 01:54.33 | Manga_gelada | I mean, most are running mangos right? |
| 01:54.47 | Kaso | mangos? |
| 01:55.04 | Kaso | the fruit? |
| 01:55.38 | Manga_gelada | no |
| 01:55.41 | Manga_gelada | the emulator |
| 01:55.58 | Kaso | the wow servers run proriatary software written by blizzard? |
| 01:55.59 | Manga_gelada | and there is YAWE = yet another wow emu too |
| 01:56.03 | equiraptor | Why would WoW servers run an emulator? |
| 01:56.20 | Manga_gelada | im talking about private servers |
| 01:56.22 | equiraptor | Surely Blizzard doesn't need one. |
| 01:56.28 | Kaso | Manga_gelada, we dont allow disucssion of emulated servers here, if you want to play wow then pay money. |
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| 01:57.28 | Manga_gelada | im comming from lineage |
| 01:57.54 | Manga_gelada | lineage is stupid, too much grinding, from lvl 1 to max lvl you dont do anything but kill mobs |
| 01:57.59 | Kaso | then goto worldofwarcraft.com and sign up an account, or a trial account if you want to give it a go for free. |
| 01:58.36 | Kirkburn|afk | As far as I know, WoW is far less grinding than Lineage |
| 01:58.49 | Gryphen | after playing lineage, i say it is |
| 02:00.39 | Manga_gelada | i think all f2p mmorpgs focus on grinding |
| 02:01.31 | dotted | free2play? |
| 02:01.52 | Manga_gelada | yes |
| 02:02.09 | dotted | lineage isnt free? |
| 02:02.22 | Gryphen | you should be paying for lineage too |
| 02:02.26 | Manga_gelada | l2 java servers are |
| 02:02.51 | dotted | yet again private servers |
| 02:04.43 | Manga_gelada | it was a good idea to play on l2 private servers, I didn't like it, i wouldnt pay for it |
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| 02:06.23 | dotted | idiot |
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| 02:07.13 | Kaso | mmm |
| 02:07.41 | Adys | Bagginsww |
| 02:07.56 | Adys | the chromatic dragonflight was started by nefarian or deathwing? |
| 02:08.07 | Kaso | deathwing |
| 02:08.11 | dotted | deathwing started |
| 02:08.14 | Adys | ok |
| 02:08.19 | dotted | nef finished it |
| 02:08.24 | dotted | afaik |
| 02:08.24 | Bagginsww | uh hmm |
| 02:08.24 | Kaso | deathwing also never really perfected it |
| 02:08.27 | Bagginsww | just a sec |
| 02:08.36 | Kaso | all deathwings' have the weaknesses |
| 02:08.58 | Bagginsww | his father failed at his attempt |
| 02:09.04 | Bagginsww | nefarion was a new attepmt |
| 02:09.25 | Adys | oki |
| 02:09.40 | Kaso | Wait, did deathwing fail completely? |
| 02:09.59 | Kaso | i thought the Draconics in bwl which have the +200% weakness were deathwings versions |
| 02:11.28 | Adys | bler wheres teomyr when we need him |
| 02:12.45 | Bagginsww | well rpg says he "failed" doesn't mean completely I guess |
| 02:13.09 | Sandwichman2448 | He used completely different methods though. |
| 02:14.18 | Bagginsww | dark faction is supposed to ahve more info |
| 02:14.24 | Kaso | the Caydiem quote on the chrom dragonflight page suggests that it is nef's which have the weakness |
| 02:14.26 | Bagginsww | on chromatic flight |
| 02:14.50 | Sandwichman2448 | Hmm... |
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| 02:16.52 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mac needs to be updated |
| 02:19.06 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_functionality_on_Macs that is |
| 02:23.45 | Bagginsww | "Nafarian is one of hte oldest and most powerful children of Deathwing and he recently succeeded where his father (presumably) failed: he has created a group of chromatic dragons. These dragons quickly grow in number, and with the help of his sister onyxia, he plans to use them to rally an entire black dragonflight under his command |
| 02:24.34 | Bagginsww | -Monster Guide btw |
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| 02:39.18 | dotted | fu Adys |
| 02:39.37 | Adys | dotted: user page content is limited |
| 02:39.45 | Adys | its not a personal webpage |
| 02:39.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lightslayer its not finished but you might enjoy that info kirkburn |
| 02:39.53 | dotted | fufufufuufu :((( |
| 02:40.04 | Adys | if an user doesnt want to hear some music when wanting to leave you a message, he wont. |
| 02:40.52 | dotted | they can do that on my talk page :8 |
| 02:41.25 | Adys | its a plain and simple no for this one |
| 02:41.29 | Adys | just deal with it |
| 02:41.38 | dotted | bah you suck |
| 02:42.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Methinks I should read my copy of HPG more |
| 02:43.47 | Adys | tusva! hey :) |
| 02:44.02 | Adys | oh damnit, miranda acting up again |
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| 02:44.11 | Adys | hey tusva |
| 02:44.13 | Tusva | o/ |
| 02:46.12 | Bagginsww | Ya kirkburn lots of interesting stuff in there |
| 02:46.33 | Adys | Tusva: have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Wwsc |
| 02:48.06 | Tusva | looks good...perhaps an icon? :D |
| 02:48.31 | Adys | lol |
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| 02:48.46 | Adys | well redirects need to be done without any text or image in the page |
| 02:48.49 | Adys | except categories |
| 02:48.53 | Adys | hence why it doesnt actually work |
| 02:48.59 | Tusva | i s'pose :( |
| 02:49.01 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:EL |
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| 02:52.00 | Adys | btw Tusva im deleting http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/BC and http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/Beta |
| 02:52.24 | Adys | its outdated and useless now |
| 02:52.42 | Tusva | yep |
| 02:52.50 | Tusva | go for it |
| 02:52.54 | Adys | done :P |
| 02:53.20 | Adys | i cleared my watchlist, zomg |
| 02:53.20 | Adys | You have 86 pages on your watchlist (excluding talk pages) |
| 02:55.53 | [NewsBot] | Blizzplanet: Mike Morhaime at Austin GDC 2007 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1411 |
| 02:56.04 | Tusva | i updated your insane icon spam page btw :P |
| 02:56.18 | Adys | hehe aye saw |
| 02:56.27 | Adys | its to keep them out of unusedfiles |
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| 03:04.27 | Bagginsww | oh kirkburn |
| 03:04.38 | Bagginsww | tharon just messed with some quotes... |
| 03:04.43 | Kirkburn|afk | link |
| 03:04.48 | Bagginsww | book was specif with "some" |
| 03:04.52 | Bagginsww | not genrealy asccpete |
| 03:04.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Anduin_Lothar |
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| 03:05.49 | Bagginsww | It is generally accepted that Lothar was defeated in single combat by Doomhammer, although some belive that Doomhammer did not win fairly and Lothar was killed after being ambushed by a group of Horde's warriors. Regardless, his blade fell from his dead grasp, though it did not lie for long.HPG 171APG 134 |
| 03:06.13 | Bagginsww | that's how theron changed it |
| 03:06.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, it's not in quote marks, so he wouldn't know |
| 03:06.26 | Bagginsww | , but HPG says differenlty if you care to look up the refrence |
| 03:06.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Mention that if you edit it |
| 03:06.42 | Bagginsww | and add quote marks I guess |
| 03:07.10 | Bagginsww | actually I'll get you the quote and you can edit it so we can avoid head knockign :p |
| 03:09.41 | Bagginsww | "some say he was defeated in in single combat, others claim he was ambushed and slain by a group" |
| 03:11.07 | Bagginsww | from what I can tell, Theron' "generally accepted" comment is real world opinion |
| 03:11.24 | Bagginsww | as opposed to in-universe perspective qualification |
| 03:12.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Done |
| 03:12.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Indeed, in-world takes precedence |
| 03:13.56 | Bagginsww | ya, at least in case where issue is a matter of fan opinion vs. sources. |
| 03:14.23 | Bagginsww | if we got a written comment from Metzen, well... |
| 03:18.04 | Skosiris | dotted |
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| 04:21.55 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind |
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| 04:37.59 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind |
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| 04:53.54 | Bagginsww | true he hasn't given a good reason why he doesn't hink its her :p |
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| 04:56.21 | Sky2042 | quite the crew we're developing in here... |
| 04:56.24 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 04:56.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, responded :P |
| 04:56.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Sky2042, :D |
| 04:56.51 | Bagginsww | hmm i've been raiding |
| 04:57.55 | Sky2042 | bah@tekkub |
| 04:58.11 | Sky2042 | you aren't the only ones editing this thing |
| 04:58.12 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 04:58.14 | Sky2042 | <.< |
| 04:58.19 | Tekkub | ^^^ |
| 04:59.25 | Bagginsww | umm actually he's wrong, medivh is on the cover of one of the rpgs |
| 04:59.51 | Bagginsww | and atonidus is on another |
| 05:00.21 | Bagginsww | Shadows and & Light is the "legends' book showcasing major chracters like mal, and tyrande |
| 05:02.24 | Bagginsww | and kirkburn you have noticed the back of hte pictur right? |
| 05:02.43 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Cenarius1.jpg |
| 05:02.50 | Bagginsww | baby tiger |
| 05:02.57 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.11 | Bagginsww | young blue haired woman next to young man both holiding hands |
| 05:03.16 | Bagginsww | *holding |
| 05:03.22 | Tekkub | totally gay |
| 05:03.23 | Bagginsww | and 3rd elf standing off to the side |
| 05:03.35 | Bagginsww | illidan |
| 05:03.41 | Tekkub | duh! |
| 05:03.49 | Bagginsww | this is one connecte artwork btw |
| 05:04.06 | Bagginsww | it fades from "early" to the "present" |
| 05:04.23 | Bagginsww | both have tiger, blue haired woman, and green haired man |
| 05:05.51 | Bagginsww | let me connect the artwork together as its intended |
| 05:05.56 | Bagginsww | if I can |
| 05:06.51 | vlad_ | so much work |
| 05:07.15 | vlad_ | this working remotely thing is both good and bad... getting tons of stuff done, but the downside is that i'm doing nothing but work :p |
| 05:07.39 | Sky2042 | what, vlad_, are u doing? |
| 05:07.45 | vlad_ | working! |
| 05:07.48 | vlad_ | from new zealand |
| 05:08.03 | Sky2042 | oh... just away from the office? |
| 05:08.10 | vlad_ | yeah, we have a small office here |
| 05:08.15 | Sky2042 | ah |
| 05:08.16 | vlad_ | needed to work with the folks here |
| 05:09.15 | Sky2042 | buuuuuuuuuuurn on kirkburn |
| 05:09.22 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind&curid=17539&diff=668600&oldid=668597&rcid=583526 |
| 05:10.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Hardly |
| 05:10.16 | Kirkburn|afk | As Baggins just said "Shadows and & Light is the "legends' book showcasing major chracters like mal, and tyrande" |
| 05:10.32 | Kirkburn|afk | So yes, it does showcase epic druids ... like Malfurion. |
| 05:12.10 | Sky2042 | ack |
| 05:12.13 | Sky2042 | that's annoying... |
| 05:12.56 | Bagginsww | hmm dream walker |
| 05:13.10 | Bagginsww | is that ingame armor? |
| 05:14.20 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 05:14.26 | Kirkburn|afk | vlad_, seen this? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump&curid=23440&diff=668572&oldid=668238 |
| 05:14.26 | Sky2042 | t3 |
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| 05:14.37 | Sky2042 | bagginsww: t3 |
| 05:14.58 | Bagginsww | ahh I see. |
| 05:14.59 | Bagginsww | thanks |
| 05:15.10 | Bagginsww | its up on samwise sight now, never noticed it |
| 05:15.14 | Bagginsww | well the production art |
| 05:16.18 | Sky2042 | mikaka scares me... |
| 05:16.21 | vlad_ | Kirkburn|afk: looking |
| 05:16.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, so far as I can tell his only reaosn for thinking it's not Tyrande is because her hair isn't blue enough |
| 05:17.10 | Bagginsww | and the reason it isn't is composition issues |
| 05:17.18 | vlad_ | Kirkburn|afk: huh, neat |
| 05:17.19 | Bagginsww | even the tiger is on the "pinkish side |
| 05:17.36 | vlad_ | running the contest could be cool |
| 05:17.36 | Bagginsww | cause of the pink/purple dusky lighting |
| 05:17.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Dunno how we'd sort that, but yeah, could be cool indeed |
| 05:18.29 | Kirkburn|afk | How we'd choose who was eligible I dunno |
| 05:18.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Indeed, how we'd choose a winner, I dunno |
| 05:18.43 | vlad_ | maybe actually run it as a contest |
| 05:18.50 | vlad_ | and come up with something that people have to do to enter |
| 05:19.06 | vlad_ | as opposed to have it be a random drawing |
| 05:19.06 | Sky2042 | aw shit |
| 05:19.06 | Kirkburn|afk | If it was done on 1 vote per edit ... well, varghedin would almost certainly win =) |
| 05:19.10 | Sky2042 | either way, i |
| 05:19.11 | Sky2042 | i |
| 05:19.15 | Sky2042 | i'm fucked* |
| 05:19.26 | Sky2042 | damn legal issues with being underage |
| 05:19.27 | Kirkburn|afk | I shall have a think ... am about to go to bed atm |
| 05:19.30 | Tekkub | something involving amount of submissions in a certain date range? |
| 05:19.46 | vlad_ | Tekkub: maybe, though I can see spam problems |
| 05:19.46 | Tekkub | not number, but size |
| 05:19.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Even then, spammage |
| 05:20.06 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 05:20.29 | Tekkub | most useful new article? |
| 05:20.33 | Bagginsww | hmm too bad the two shots are missing the middle piece |
| 05:20.43 | Bagginsww | I can't find a copy of the panarama |
| 05:20.45 | Tekkub | furriest admin? |
| 05:20.54 | Sky2042 | no, tekkub |
| 05:20.56 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 05:21.05 | Tekkub | you're not an admin you have no say! |
| 05:21.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Least furry admin! Much better ... |
| 05:21.07 | Bagginsww | best I can do is a b&w scan |
| 05:21.26 | Bagginsww | but basically the cenarious side blends over into the throne side |
| 05:21.35 | Kirkburn|afk | I think we need to find out how other wikis have run contests |
| 05:21.38 | Bagginsww | its one fancy piece of artowk |
| 05:21.41 | Bagginsww | artwork |
| 05:22.15 | Bagginsww | purple hair ooh nitpick |
| 05:22.35 | Bagginsww | and I think he's colorblind, and not noticing the fact the whole entire picture is on the purplish side of things :p |
| 05:22.40 | Tekkub | so what, people are expected to have the exact same hair color for 10000 years? |
| 05:22.51 | Bagginsww | and did he not notice tyrande on the cover of war of the ancients? |
| 05:23.20 | Bagginsww | well the original image was telling a story tekkub, I think of the young Tyrande up to modern tyrande |
| 05:23.35 | Bagginsww | cause the tiger is very yong in one picture |
| 05:23.42 | Tekkub | she's a whore I don't want to think about her |
| 05:23.46 | Bagginsww | and large as it fadeds inot the other |
| 05:24.52 | Bagginsww | reminds me I still need to scan up the two versions of khadger in S&L |
| 05:24.59 | Bagginsww | they dont' quite match up either LOL |
| 05:25.05 | Bagginsww | if he's going to use that arguement |
| 05:25.16 | Bagginsww | different artists, different interpretations |
| 05:26.21 | Bagginsww | haw gues swhat |
| 05:26.25 | Bagginsww | white wolf's website |
| 05:27.00 | Bagginsww | calls the pic "tyrande and malfurion |
| 05:27.03 | Bagginsww | nope maybe not, just google screwing things up |
| 05:27.14 | Bagginsww | has the generic file name |
| 05:27.59 | Sky2042 | that couldn't possibly be tyrande, kirkburn! |
| 05:28.00 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 05:29.25 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 05:29.59 | Bagginsww | ok off to scan some artwork |
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| 05:35.07 | BretT845 | is there any way to dl the patches on this channel |
| 05:36.17 | Sky2042 | uh.... no |
| 05:36.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, found a full version of the image - http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer_samwise.php?cat=warcraft&art=95&sub=34 |
| 05:36.59 | Kirkburn|afk | BretT845, latest WoW patches? |
| 05:37.11 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 05:40.40 | Kirkburn|afk | How to balance 11 nails on the head of ONE nail - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUOIQ66rxdI |
| 05:41.55 | Sky2042 | !wwstats |
| 05:41.55 | [NewsBot] | #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html |
| 05:41.55 | Sky2042 | lol kirkburn |
| 05:41.55 | Kirkburn|afk | That Adys, he keeps beating me |
| 05:41.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Such a spammer |
| 05:42.06 | Adys | i like having my name in red |
| 05:42.15 | Kirkburn|afk | dotted, can you change "Baggins.ww" to "Baggins" |
| 05:42.24 | Adys | 1 Adys 650 Bagginsww |
| 05:42.24 | Adys | 2 Kirkburn 244 Bagginsww |
| 05:42.33 | Kirkburn|afk | No! |
| 05:42.36 | Adys | most referenced nicks |
| 05:42.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Stop spamming! |
| 05:42.46 | Kirkburn|afk | :< |
| 05:42.46 | Adys | Adys is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 54 people! |
| 05:42.47 | Adys | Adys's faithful follower, Kirkburn, kicked about 17 people. |
| 05:42.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Now you're just cheating :( |
| 05:42.59 | Sky2042 | aaaaaa, attack of the infobot |
| 05:42.59 | [NewsBot] | [NewsBot] > infobot |
| 05:43.01 | Adys | wow thats the complete channel in offhours |
| 05:43.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait, only 17? |
| 05:43.13 | Sky2042 | wait, what infobot? |
| 05:43.36 | Sky2042 | wtf@[NewBot] |
| 05:43.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, people reference your name all the time, Adys Adys Adys Adys Adys |
| 05:43.53 | Adys | dingdingdong |
| 05:44.01 | Adys | Kirkburn spoke a total of 19007 words! |
| 05:44.01 | Adys | Kirkburn's faithful follower, Adys, didn't speak so much: 14196 words. |
| 05:44.03 | Adys | QQ |
| 05:44.05 | Kirkburn|afk | The witch is dead? |
| 05:44.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Hah, at least I write longer sentences than you :D |
| 05:44.38 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn|afk!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-115-167.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (and i kick 4.8 times more than you) |
| 05:44.39 | *** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn|afk (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 05:44.39 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn|afk] by ChanServ |
| 05:44.53 | Sky2042 | oooo... can i kick someone too? |
| 05:44.54 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Adys] by Kirkburn|afk |
| 05:45.02 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 05:45.05 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Adys] by Kirkburn|afk |
| 05:45.15 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by Kirkburn|afk |
| 05:45.17 | Adys | :( |
| 05:45.33 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Kirkburn|afk] by Adys |
| 05:45.36 | Kirkburn|afk | * Kirkburn|afk removes channel operator status from Adys |
| 05:45.36 | Kirkburn|afk | * Kirkburn|afk gives channel operator status to Adys |
| 05:45.37 | Adys | hah. |
| 05:45.47 | Kirkburn|afk | I already gave it back, silly! :P |
| 05:45.55 | Adys | bleh |
| 05:46.03 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn|sleep] by Adys |
| 05:46.12 | Kirkburn|sleep | heehee |
| 05:46.20 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Sky2042] by Kirkburn|sleep |
| 05:46.27 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Sky2042] by Kirkburn|sleep |
| 05:46.29 | Kirkburn|sleep | Too slow! |
| 05:46.31 | Bagginsww | aalright back |
| 05:46.35 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 05:46.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Panorama.jpg |
| 05:47.00 | Bagginsww | that's the whole composition |
| 05:47.01 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Sky2042] by Kirkburn|sleep |
| 05:47.11 | Bagginsww | when it isn't split into half |
| 05:47.13 | Sky2042 | how do i kick someone? |
| 05:47.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | oooh, well that helps |
| 05:47.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | "/kick Sky2042" |
| 05:47.35 | Bagginsww | told you its kind of a fade from the past into the present |
| 05:47.45 | Adys | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/stockmarket/ here we go again! |
| 05:47.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | Or "/kick Sky2042 BANANA SUNDAE!" |
| 05:47.48 | Sky2042 | it says not enough paramteres... |
| 05:47.50 | Adys | afk a bit :) |
| 05:48.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | toodles |
| 05:48.03 | Bagginsww | btw, the samwise name for the image is Rise of the Immortals or something like that |
| 05:48.07 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Adys!n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net] by Sky2042 (Sky2042) |
| 05:48.08 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-115-167.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 05:48.08 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 05:48.11 | Sky2042 | ah |
| 05:48.28 | Bagginsww | twilight |
| 05:48.30 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Sky2042] by Kirkburn|sleep |
| 05:48.35 | Sky2042 | there we go |
| 05:48.39 | Bagginsww | twilight of the immortals |
| 05:48.42 | Sky2042 | that just fealt good |
| 05:48.44 | Sky2042 | felt* |
| 05:49.30 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Khad1.jpg http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Khad2.jpg |
| 05:55.46 | Karrion | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/images/samwise/WarCraft_Samwise061c_Large.jpg ? |
| 05:55.53 | [NewsBot] | Blizzplanet: Blizzplanet - Interview with Jim Raynor - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1412 |
| 05:57.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | Karrion, arf |
| 05:57.29 | Bagginsww | Now I was in a hurry kirkburn that image is a 1 meg file if someone wants to reduce it down later :p |
| 05:57.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | See what Karrion linked |
| 05:57.49 | Bagginsww | hmm? |
| 05:57.56 | Bagginsww | oh sweet |
| 05:57.59 | Bagginsww | good job karrion |
| 05:58.20 | Bagginsww | now you can delete the big black and white one :p |
| 05:58.39 | *** join/#wowwiki Karrion (n=kieron@corp-gw01.imrworldwide.com) |
| 05:58.39 | Bagginsww | ooh did you notice this |
| 05:58.46 | Bagginsww | the image on the left is memory from the fires |
| 05:58.57 | Bagginsww | its symbolism |
| 05:59.16 | Bagginsww | smoke fades into the image on the left |
| 05:59.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | Symbolism!?! In MY wiki?!?!?! :P |
| 05:59.40 | Bagginsww | it also plays on the theme of shadow and light |
| 05:59.45 | *** part/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-115-167.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 05:59.48 | Bagginsww | light int he past when the world was young |
| 05:59.49 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-115-167.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 05:59.49 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 05:59.54 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bagginsww, post that :) |
| 05:59.56 | Bagginsww | and shadow in the future |
| 05:59.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'm off now |
| 06:00.04 | Bagginsww | too tired to post :p |
| 06:00.08 | Adys | nn kirk |
| 06:00.12 | Bagginsww | about to sleep myself |
| 06:00.20 | JunkHead-Work | Or maybe the image on the left if just your interpretation of what you see in the smoke. |
| 06:00.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | I added |sleep to my repertoire just so I could have a really really afk one ... I don't want to ruin that too |
| 06:00.30 | JunkHead-Work | Some people look at clouds and see teddy bears and stuff. |
| 06:00.54 | Kirkburn|sleep | JunkHead-Work, damn detailed (and colourful!) clouds |
| 06:01.02 | Sky2042 | http://worldofcryingcraft.ytmnd.com/ |
| 06:01.04 | JunkHead-Work | Kirkburn|sleep - Maybe to you. |
| 06:01.06 | Sky2042 | listen to it |
| 06:01.12 | JunkHead-Work | I see a clown riding a blimp.:( |
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| 06:02.01 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:02.04 | Sky2042 | fucking lol |
| 06:02.18 | Bagginsww | oh btw kirkburn the apparently you can't link directly to the large page from samwise site its resstricted |
| 06:02.49 | Bagginsww | bandwidth sapping maybe |
| 06:03.07 | Bagginsww | what I mean is your link doesn't work in your post |
| 06:03.44 | Bagginsww | LOL now he's saying it snot cenarious |
| 06:04.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | I've responded |
| 06:04.26 | Bagginsww | cenariuos is one of a kind, and the only "keeper" with a wooden arm right? |
| 06:04.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | The night elves didn't use frostsabers during WotA??? |
| 06:04.57 | Bagginsww | oh all keeprs have wooden arms I guess |
| 06:05.03 | Bagginsww | but the antler styles are different |
| 06:05.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | Barely |
| 06:05.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | Oh, between what? |
| 06:05.27 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Keeper.jpg |
| 06:05.30 | Bagginsww | keeper |
| 06:05.43 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Cenarius2.jpg |
| 06:05.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | Well, each artists has their own interpretation |
| 06:05.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | There is never any real "standard" for them to draw to |
| 06:05.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Cenarius3.jpg |
| 06:06.02 | Bagginsww | I agree kirkburn |
| 06:06.23 | Bagginsww | what I mean is cenarius horns and keepers seem to be different, cenarius is more moose, keepers are more rain deer |
| 06:06.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | But for him to actually try and convince me it's not Cenarius ... it's just laughable |
| 06:06.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | Night elves did use sabers during WotA, no? |
| 06:06.52 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 06:07.11 | Bagginsww | I haven't read Woat but most accounts say they ahve been using frostsabers for ever |
| 06:07.35 | Sky2042 | aye, they used sabers in wota, but i don't recall if they were frost sabers or not |
| 06:08.08 | Bagginsww | as for tyrandes article in the book |
| 06:08.24 | Bagginsww | I think it says Ash'ah or however its spelled has been with her since her youth |
| 06:08.42 | Bagginsww | checkign |
| 06:08.43 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys|Miranda (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-66-6.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:09.39 | Kirkburn|sleep | An immortal saber? Coooool |
| 06:09.54 | Bagginsww | nah it doesn't seem to talk about it, just talks about how she takes Ash'alah into battle |
| 06:10.14 | Karrion | nah not immortal, she just gets new ones, like Lassie >.> |
| 06:10.28 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 06:11.05 | Kirkburn|sleep | I want to know how he knows how long they've been using frostsabers |
| 06:11.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | (and why he would expect the artist to know or care) |
| 06:11.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | Cool picture > accuracy |
| 06:12.22 | Bagginsww | LOL ya |
| 06:13.13 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Waroftheancients1.jpg that's mal right? |
| 06:13.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Waroftheancients2.jpg and that's tyrande |
| 06:13.57 | Bagginsww | last book had illy |
| 06:15.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | yes and yes |
| 06:15.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | And Krasus and Brox |
| 06:15.35 | Bagginsww | and rhonin |
| 06:15.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | indeed |
| 06:16.19 | Bagginsww | LOL, now he's saying you havne't addressed his points |
| 06:16.30 | Bagginsww | Now, evidently you've decided just to shrug off my points as "silly" as opposed to actually addressing them. I'll keep in mind in the future that when you come to a conclusion, no matter how unsubstantiated it might be, that there's no point in trying to discuss it. I'm glad we had this talk, it'll probably save me time later. - Parqual Fintalas |
| 06:16.47 | Bagginsww | I wonder if he's one of those sol peeps... |
| 06:17.01 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:17.09 | Bagginsww | as a point of note keepers are not in shadows and light |
| 06:17.17 | Bagginsww | only cenarius |
| 06:17.31 | Bagginsww | under the eternals section |
| 06:18.30 | Bagginsww | ahh ya frostsaber info is derived form lore based on frostsaber faction in WoW I think |
| 06:18.46 | Bagginsww | although there are some contradictions with war of the nacients novel I think on the issue |
| 06:21.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | My comment: "Oh this is just completely crazy. You're actually really, really telling me that that's not Cenarius, Tyrande, Mal and Illidan? Seriously, that's just ridiculous. Artists do not care about lore details, and this image was created in 2004. THREE years ago. BEFORE WoW came out. BEFORE many of the novels were released. THREE years before MG came out. You're right, there's little point discussing this if |
| 06:21.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.36 | Sky2042 | he isn't taking coincidence into account, it would seem |
| 06:22.56 | Bagginsww | posted |
| 06:22.57 | Sky2042 | having 3 nes in the same place as one of the demigods can't just be any one |
| 06:24.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | With one being shady |
| 06:24.13 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind#Shadows_.26_Light_cover_.3D_Not_Tyrande |
| 06:24.17 | Sky2042 | fine. one shady |
| 06:24.18 | Kirkburn|sleep | And one having a young frostsaber pet |
| 06:24.27 | *** join/#wowwiki Zeal (n=zeal@host81-151-183-58.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:24.30 | Adys|Miranda | go to sleep kirk |
| 06:24.32 | Sky2042 | zeal!!!! |
| 06:24.40 | Tekkub | omgwtf? |
| 06:24.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | I can't now, Zeal probably wants to strangle me :( |
| 06:24.49 | Tekkub | forget to disable auto-join? :P |
| 06:24.53 | Zeal | i'm jsut here to bug Kirkburn|sleep :p |
| 06:24.55 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 06:25.02 | Tekkub | oh, have at it then |
| 06:25.09 | Kirkburn|sleep | Zeal, what's up with CF? Didn't have a chance to MSN |
| 06:25.11 | Zeal | and to get help on wowi >_<; |
| 06:25.41 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn|sleep!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-66-6.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (you won't bug him!) |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn|sleep (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 06:25.42 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn|sleep] by ChanServ |
| 06:25.51 | Zeal | ah, i jsut wnated to talk about how you did some of the stuff, as the addon i'm workong on atm seems to do similar things, and would hope to make sure it didn't conflict. |
| 06:26.07 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mdMb6bRXt4 this isnt such a bad remix |
| 06:26.08 | *** join/#wowwiki rophy (n=Miranda@csw118.cs.nthu.edu.tw) |
| 06:26.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | What type of addon? ClearFont is v simple in that it just replaces standard fonts |
| 06:26.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | Really, the best way to find out if it conflicts is just to test :P |
| 06:26.46 | Sky2042 | lern2live adys |
| 06:26.47 | Sky2042 | lern2live |
| 06:26.54 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind#Shadows_.26_Light_cover_.3D_Not_Tyrande |
| 06:27.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yeah, tried linking him that image twice already ^^ |
| 06:27.38 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 06:27.39 | Kirkburn|sleep | :D |
| 06:28.01 | Sky2042 | oh my... |
| 06:28.12 | Zeal | changes the font of adds new font strings to unit frames. |
| 06:28.14 | Bagginsww | You should link him the two pics of khadger form the same book, to knock it into his head artists ahve different interpretations :p |
| 06:28.23 | Zeal | *of, and adds, |
| 06:28.38 | Zeal | or w/e.. makes sense somewhere there :s |
| 06:28.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | lol |
| 06:29.10 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Khadgar |
| 06:29.14 | Kirkburn|sleep | If it adds new ones, no conflict, but if it changes the existing one, ClearFont may override it |
| 06:29.19 | Kirkburn|sleep | Best just to try it out |
| 06:29.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bagginsww, he destroys one of his own arguements halfway thru if you notice ... first he mentions the change in facial markings as a reason, then says "All this means to me is that the markings are not permanent and she can wear them as she pleases" |
| 06:29.58 | Bagginsww | Lawl |
| 06:30.25 | Adys | is theron at it again? |
| 06:30.32 | Bagginsww | hmm he just posted between you and me... |
| 06:30.54 | Sky2042 | not theron adys |
| 06:31.00 | Sky2042 | but taht would be funny |
| 06:31.30 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:31.33 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 06:31.38 | Sky2042 | he really does not like you kirkburn |
| 06:31.41 | Sky2042 | go to bed |
| 06:32.18 | Zeal | eh, i don't really mind if it overides it, but clear font inherits some bad positioning and poor font size choices of the default ui is all :p |
| 06:32.43 | Zeal | namely statustext on the unit frames |
| 06:33.23 | Zeal | blizz have it huge, and thus they've put ltos of it off vertical center to compensate :/ |
| 06:33.54 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Policy/Writing/Lore#Infobox_arts |
| 06:33.58 | Zeal | so, as long as clear font only changes the font, not the styling, size, positioning etc, should be all good. |
| 06:33.58 | Adys | can we have more comments please |
| 06:34.05 | Zeal | it fails |
| 06:34.31 | Kirkburn|sleep | Zeal, only font :) |
| 06:34.45 | Bagginsww | oh hi zeal |
| 06:34.48 | Adys | kirk aint you supposed to sleep |
| 06:34.55 | Zeal | lol, hey Bagginsww |
| 06:34.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | Parqual is far too much fun |
| 06:35.00 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Zeal] by Adys |
| 06:35.18 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE im being that bored |
| 06:35.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | "generally most of the artists at Blizzard are responsible for the lore details" ... what does that even mean? |
| 06:35.25 | Zeal | i'll probably stay on here until i give up coding for the ni..morning >_> |
| 06:35.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | It's onl 7:35 am |
| 06:35.56 | Bagginsww | only one refrence to frostabers in wc3 manual |
| 06:36.10 | Zeal | and fyi, my problem has been solved. i was being noob with locals.. |
| 06:36.12 | Bagginsww | no mention of date of their existence |
| 06:36.45 | Adys | AAAARGGHHHH |
| 06:36.48 | Adys | gimme a terrain editor |
| 06:37.04 | Adys | I want to design a zone :< |
| 06:37.14 | Adys | terrain creator actually, editors already exist |
| 06:37.15 | Adys | meh |
| 06:38.21 | Sky2042 | lol kirkburn |
| 06:38.34 | Sky2042 | why are you playing the part of the flamer? |
| 06:39.32 | Bagginsww | his latest post makes even less sense... |
| 06:39.41 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 06:39.49 | Adys | Bagginsww: link? |
| 06:39.55 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind |
| 06:40.02 | Adys | shitty hell, im hungry, brb |
| 06:40.28 | Adys | ah its the guy who was complaining about the other cover shit not representing malfurion and tyrande? |
| 06:40.30 | Bagginsww | He's trying to apply modern lore on something drawn in 2003-4 period :p |
| 06:40.39 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 06:41.19 | Bagginsww | doesn't he know what they say about hindsight? |
| 06:41.23 | Sky2042 | wyrihaximus2!!! :P |
| 06:41.58 | Adys | Perhaps this was supposed to showcase an epic druid? - Parqual Fintalas |
| 06:41.59 | Adys | lol |
| 06:42.02 | Adys | nice |
| 06:42.06 | Zeal | said poster is a nub, all bow before the bookkeepers |
| 06:42.25 | Zeal | take it ragestorm still never made it on here? XD |
| 06:42.33 | Adys | ~seen ragestorm |
| 06:43.04 | infobot | Adys: i haven't seen 'ragestorm' |
| 06:43.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | "Right, so if I hold up a banana, but don't have a label from the producer on it saying "this is a banana", it could quite possibly not be a banana?" |
| 06:43.04 | Adys | it could be a dildo! |
| 06:43.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | haHA! |
| 06:43.04 | Adys | its our teabingh who learned how to indent stuff tbfh |
| 06:43.06 | Zeal | a banananana shaped dildo |
| 06:43.07 | Adys | noob |
| 06:43.18 | Adys | infobot, noob |
| 06:43.24 | infobot | ACTION has died. |
| 06:43.31 | Adys | infobot, rez me |
| 06:43.38 | Adys | infobot, dance |
| 06:43.39 | infobot | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 06:43.42 | Zeal | infobot, who am i |
| 06:43.44 | infobot | zeal shut up, you are a nobody |
| 06:43.50 | Adys | infobot, zeal? |
| 06:43.51 | infobot | rumour has it, zeal is now level 26 |
| 06:43.51 | Zeal | :( |
| 06:43.56 | Adys | haha |
| 06:44.01 | Zeal | 26? rofl |
| 06:44.09 | Zeal | 70 and pwning ;) |
| 06:44.29 | Zeal | more mag tomorrow, yay |
| 06:44.29 | Adys | infobot, no, zeal is and has been level 70 for a while |
| 06:44.31 | infobot | okay, Adys |
| 06:45.21 | Zeal | i got 3 new items today in kara, managed to get 3 raids going in the guild, all 3 did all but 2 bosses in one day. decent achievement :) |
| 06:45.27 | Adys | infobot, sleep with me tonight |
| 06:45.31 | infobot | ACTION sends with me tonight to bed without supper |
| 06:45.51 | Adys | grammar mkaayyy |
| 06:46.18 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mdMb6bRXt4 |
| 06:46.21 | Adys | I like it |
| 06:46.44 | Zeal | still need to do netherpsite and illhoof/maiden/nightbane. eahc raid left a differnt one out :p |
| 06:48.44 | Zeal | needs to be a better way of getting rid of there prefixs :( |
| 06:48.49 | Zeal | *these |
| 06:49.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bagginsww, got seven reasons for Mikaka |
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| 06:50.17 | Bagginsww | posted too |
| 06:54.12 | Adys | I installed quartz and uninstalled a few other addons |
| 06:54.14 | Adys | really happy with it |
| 06:56.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | The clothes also fit the WotA group |
| 06:56.38 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 06:56.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | Tyrande in priestess dress, Malfurion in simple garb, Illidan in cool stuff |
| 06:57.23 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Phoenix mount, comics, hotfixes. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=251.0 |
| 06:58.33 | Bagginsww | and Kirburn as far as I know all covers had context to stuff inside the books |
| 06:58.59 | Bagginsww | Lands of mystery shows cover of stuff related to kalimdar which makes up the main bul of the book |
| 06:59.11 | Bagginsww | manua o fmonsters had artwork of monsters covered inside the book |
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| 06:59.44 | Bagginsww | horde & alliance compendium had artwork of alliance dwarf battiling a horde orc |
| 07:00.06 | Bagginsww | Magic and mayhem had a runemaster battling a steamwarrior |
| 07:00.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | Oh certainly |
| 07:00.30 | Bagginsww | since the major content in shadows & light is legends and enternals |
| 07:00.43 | Bagginsww | well what best to represent that? |
| 07:01.08 | Bagginsww | two characters who improtant to the book, and a demigod they had a strong connection to |
| 07:02.09 | Bagginsww | he wants us to claim that MG background is inconsistent LOL |
| 07:02.26 | Bagginsww | um sure its valid, it just didn't exist 3 years ago :p |
| 07:03.01 | Bagginsww | oh btw he claimed the christmas artwork was mal |
| 07:03.07 | Bagginsww | it was not mal it was cenarius |
| 07:03.13 | Bagginsww | let me get you the link |
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| 07:04.01 | Bagginsww | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer_samwise.php?cat=warcraft&art=79&sub=34 |
| 07:04.08 | Bagginsww | christmas 01 |
| 07:04.12 | Bagginsww | if you dont' see the picture |
| 07:04.19 | Bagginsww | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/images/samwise/WarCraft_Samwise045c.jpg |
| 07:08.57 | Kirkburn|sleep | Sure it's Cenarius, not just a Keeper? |
| 07:09.08 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 07:09.19 | Kirkburn|sleep | Says "Keeper" on the prezzie :P |
| 07:09.25 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 07:09.33 | Bagginsww | though how many other keepers have "beards" |
| 07:09.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | That one? ;) |
| 07:09.43 | Bagginsww | but he automatically assumed it was malfurion |
| 07:11.24 | Bagginsww | in anyase the antlers are closer to ingame cenarious than ones for keepers, but that's a minor detail |
| 07:11.31 | Bagginsww | I supose |
| 07:12.25 | Bagginsww | cen had the moose horns, and samwise artwokr for keepers have the pointy raindeer horns |
| 07:12.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | All it shows is that different people draw antlers differently |
| 07:13.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | With, wonderfully, goes against another of his arguments |
| 07:13.05 | Kirkburn|sleep | *Which |
| 07:13.23 | Bagginsww | uh same artist kirkburn :) |
| 07:13.29 | Bagginsww | I was talking about samwise art |
| 07:13.52 | Bagginsww | samwise has consistently drawn keepers true keepers with pointy antlers |
| 07:14.02 | Bagginsww | and cen with moose antlers |
| 07:14.14 | Bagginsww | which makes the christmas interesting |
| 07:14.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/viewer_samwise.php?cat=warcraft&art=79&sub=34 |
| 07:14.51 | Bagginsww | arhta sa t able |
| 07:14.58 | Bagginsww | christ 02 |
| 07:15.06 | Bagginsww | do you seehttp://www.sonsofthestorm.com/images/samwise/WarCraft_Samwise046c.jpg |
| 07:15.09 | Bagginsww | do you see malfurion? |
| 07:15.21 | Bagginsww | oh druid on the left that has no horns |
| 07:15.24 | Bagginsww | *right |
| 07:15.40 | Bagginsww | ok maybe twiggy orns kinda hard to make out |
| 07:16.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | I don't see how it has any relevance |
| 07:16.52 | Bagginsww | http://www.battle.net/war3/nightelf/units/keepergrove.shtml ok standard keeprs in warcraft 3 with pointy horns |
| 07:16.56 | Bagginsww | but have beards |
| 07:17.52 | Bagginsww | although malfurion isn't consisent, he's got blue hair in game, green hairin other pictures lol |
| 07:18.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | This is one of the most ridiculous discussions I've ever had |
| 07:18.45 | Zeal | you sure? |
| 07:18.55 | Bagginsww | ya kirburn defintely |
| 07:19.02 | Bagginsww | malfurion is never consisent |
| 07:19.04 | Zeal | i've seen worse, and had plenty more :P |
| 07:19.07 | Bagginsww | his horns change in every picture :p |
| 07:19.37 | Bagginsww | 3 bloody prototypes in art of warcraft 2 with different horns LOL |
| 07:19.55 | Bagginsww | *art of warcraft |
| 07:20.25 | Adys | ~wwquotes |
| 07:20.37 | infobot | http://teo.selfip.net/wowwiki-quotes.txt |
| 07:21.03 | Bagginsww | ya you can't link samwise site thorugh wiki |
| 07:21.33 | Kirkburn|sleep | Works for me |
| 07:21.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | It's the method of leech prevention |
| 07:21.43 | Bagginsww | Access Denied |
| 07:21.43 | Bagginsww | You do not have permission to view this page. You will be redirected to the main page in 10 seconds. If this does not work for any reason click here to return to Sons of the Storm. |
| 07:21.43 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | If you copy the link into your browser it should work |
| 07:22.03 | Bagginsww | ya that would but he was probably just clicking on it |
| 07:22.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | It prevents leeching by seeing where you came from |
| 07:23.17 | Bagginsww | btw mal was in the cinemas wasn't he in wc3? |
| 07:23.30 | Bagginsww | I thin he had the tall antlers in those shots |
| 07:23.38 | Bagginsww | but that's a different artist interp again |
| 07:23.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | This is over 100 edits so far |
| 07:23.51 | Bagginsww | wow |
| 07:24.16 | Zeal | don't like having to resort to hooking blizz's functions :( |
| 07:29.30 | Bagginsww | in anycase the book doesn't discuss anyone else with white tigers |
| 07:29.44 | Bagginsww | only character in s&l with a white tiger is Tyrande |
| 07:30.08 | Zeal | haha, fuck you stupid mana bar prefixing.. |
| 07:30.29 | Bagginsww | ok he's right about epic druid looking close to the cover art, however... we know tyrande wouldn't be two-timing |
| 07:31.57 | Bagginsww | so she's probably in the arms of malfurion |
| 07:31.57 | Bagginsww | and the theme is tied into the left picture |
| 07:31.58 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Epicdruid.jpg samwise epic druid |
| 07:40.13 | Zeal | wtf the hell do i have up town girl in my head?!??! get it out!!! >_<;;; |
| 07:40.17 | Zeal | *why the |
| 07:40.45 | JunkHead-Work | Up Town Girl? |
| 07:40.54 | Bagginsww | scary |
| 07:40.54 | JunkHead-Work | Haha |
| 07:40.58 | JunkHead-Work | I'm sorry to hear that. |
| 07:41.36 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvDKZcwpA0 |
| 07:41.40 | JunkHead-Work | See if this helps. |
| 07:43.08 | Zeal | it may just! |
| 07:44.05 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnHhD7zTjc |
| 07:44.08 | JunkHead-Work | This might also. |
| 07:45.49 | Zeal | not bad |
| 07:45.57 | JunkHead-Work | Which one? |
| 07:47.02 | JunkHead-Work | That first link, the Band "Hurt", reminds me a lot of Stabbing Westward, who were one of my favorite bands back when they were together. |
| 07:47.35 | JunkHead-Work | The second link, the band "Lennex", is a bdn I found out because the lead singer wa son that show "Rockstar : Supernova", which was a singing competition. |
| 07:47.51 | Zeal | both good |
| 07:47.57 | JunkHead-Work | The guy basically got kicked off due to lack of interest. |
| 07:48.06 | Zeal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imbz8wWlaSw > * youtube fails at giving it justice :( |
| 07:48.08 | JunkHead-Work | And saying that he was only doing it to promote his own band. |
| 07:48.32 | JunkHead-Work | I'm not very big on Within Temptation. |
| 07:48.41 | JunkHead-Work | I have some of their stuff, but never listened to it a lot. |
| 07:48.42 | Zeal | the video id almost says imba! XD |
| 07:48.46 | Zeal | pfft |
| 07:48.49 | Zeal | love them |
| 07:48.59 | Zeal | oh! |
| 07:49.12 | Zeal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu_9Joygyno plug ;) |
| 07:49.43 | JunkHead-Work | Oh I'm not saying anythign bad about them, they sound good. I just never really got into them though. |
| 07:50.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bagginsww, http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind#Arbitrary_break_three |
| 07:51.15 | Zeal | aww, it's gone down a star :( |
| 07:54.04 | FISKER_Q | noooooo |
| 07:54.12 | FISKER_Q | skosiris stoel my attn whoring |
| 07:55.37 | Mike-N-Go | how does Halla work, do you have to kill all the enemy NPCs before you can cap it? |
| 07:56.38 | Bagginsww | about to post kirburn |
| 07:59.11 | FISKER_Q | damn |
| 07:59.20 | FISKER_Q | i feel like the biggest duche alive |
| 07:59.37 | Zeal | what about skosiris? :S |
| 07:59.45 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhTQoU0-dYQ&mode=related&search= |
| 08:00.09 | FISKER_Q | Was with this guy over MSN and he told me his workplace(he's an intern right now) will hire him as a employee nomatter if he's still sick |
| 08:00.21 | FISKER_Q | And i said "Hehe you're pretending to be sick" |
| 08:00.24 | Zeal | and Mike-N-Go, you can invade it on foot, but it's not the best idea, jsut use the wyvern roosts, drop bombs until all npc's are dead, run in and capture. |
| 08:00.27 | FISKER_Q | "No i have cancer" |
| 08:00.30 | FISKER_Q | :/ |
| 08:00.41 | Zeal | :o |
| 08:00.50 | Mike-N-Go | I was standing on the flag poll.. |
| 08:00.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bagginsww, added a table :P http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind#Arbitrary_break_three |
| 08:01.00 | Mike-N-Go | In the middle of Halla flaged. |
| 08:01.01 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:01.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | Post faster >< |
| 08:01.18 | Zeal | well dunno then |
| 08:01.26 | Zeal | though i've never stood on top of it, lol |
| 08:01.46 | Bagginsww | As as another note, cover artwork on most if not all of the RPG books relates to what inside the books. Lands of Mystery had artwork of creatures found in Kalimdor which related main bulk of hte book. MOnster guide had various creatures found inside the book, manual of monsters was the same way. Magic & Mayhem had a runemaster fighting a steamwarrior, which were two playable units in the book, lands of conflict had a picture |
| 08:01.46 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.47 | Bagginsww | no other night elves with tigers in the book, its the only thing it could link to. Now you argued that antlered man could link to epic druid, which I will conceint could be true, although it would beg the question why Tyrande would be in his arms if it isn't Malfurion. It could also be linked to Malfurion, because Malfurion is essentially the given character in the book to represent the "epic druid" class, mentioned in the b |
| 08:01.52 | Bagginsww | ook, tieing it all together. Lastly, the book discusses in several places how Malfurion, Illidan, Tyrande came before the Demigod Cenarius to gain assistance. Everything that fits the samwise panorama picture. Are these all just coincidences? I really don't think so. |
| 08:01.53 | Kirkburn|sleep | woah |
| 08:02.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | Like my table? |
| 08:03.06 | Bagginsww | ya its clean |
| 08:03.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | I was almost going to put nothing under "against", but I thought it would be silly |
| 08:03.25 | Bagginsww | the hair? |
| 08:03.26 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 08:03.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | "To summarize so far: facial markings, irrelevant. Hair colour, irrelevant. Frostsaber lore, irrelevant." |
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| 08:06.04 | Bagginsww | lol ya |
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| 08:06.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | I think Ragestorm will have the shock of his life when he sees the chat |
| 08:08.09 | FISKER_Q | anyone here 1337 in linux? |
| 08:09.13 | Bagginsww | LOL I know |
| 08:11.22 | WyriHaximus2nd | FISKER_Q, how 1337 do you need it? |
| 08:12.03 | Bagginsww | red my post kirk? |
| 08:12.19 | Kirkburn|sleep | yarr |
| 08:12.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'm off to read RotH in bed. I think the fun is over for now :P |
| 08:13.19 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 08:13.20 | Bagginsww | gnight |
| 08:14.10 | Zeal | nn kirkbum |
| 08:33.13 | FISKER_Q | WyriHaximus2nd oh somewhat in the area of deleting files in a directory based on filesize |
| 08:33.45 | WyriHaximus2nd | Needs to be bash script I gues? |
| 08:34.23 | FISKER_Q | yeah i guess |
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| 08:36.20 | WyriHaximus2nd | hmmm give me some time :P |
| 08:39.54 | FISKER_Q | alright |
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| 08:56.54 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/31/tv-news-looks-at-in-game-advertising/ |
| 09:06.52 | Zeal | nn wowwikians |
| 09:16.53 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/31/lightning-round-for-ny-assembly-video-game-bill-passed-in-a-day/ |
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| 09:20.18 | WyriHaximus2nd | FISKER_Q, gonne ask a college about this :) |
| 09:24.18 | TranquilRage | Is it acceptable to ask about the relative merits of some talent builds here? |
| 09:25.12 | WyriHaximus2nd | FISKER_Q, the find commend supports searching for files of different sizes so you can pick the right ones out, if you pipe that into rm you should get the stuff you want :) |
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| 09:27.27 | foxlit | [[T3_Weapon]] -- junk? |
| 09:33.03 | JunkHead-Work | I'm A Junk! |
| 09:56.54 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/31/game-retailers-association-says-no-sale-to-ny-video-game-bill/ |
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| 11:50.34 | FISKER_Q | damnit Dotted |
| 11:50.37 | FISKER_Q | you stupid grammar whore |
| 11:50.46 | FISKER_Q | alright WyriHaximus2nd thanks :P |
| 11:51.05 | WyriHaximus2nd | FISKER_Q, np let me know if you need more help :) |
| 11:51.15 | WyriHaximus2nd | man page should tell you all |
| 11:51.24 | Dotted | lern2english FISKER_Q |
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| 11:53.02 | Dotted | FISKER_Q http://ekstrabladet.dk/flash/kultur/article303834.ece :D:D::D:D:D |
| 11:54.10 | Apollozeus | ROFL |
| 11:54.20 | Apollozeus | I don't speak Danish, but those look so fag |
| 11:54.38 | Dotted | danish comedians |
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| 12:00.19 | Dotted | Apollozeus its a cycling team with 2 riders "sponsered" by a condom company |
| 12:00.25 | Dotted | Team Easy On :D |
| 12:00.33 | Apollozeus | XD |
| 12:00.52 | Dotted | but not a team really just comedy |
| 12:01.52 | Dotted | they are making fun of the resent confessions made by various riders |
| 12:06.24 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/breakfast-topic-famous-last-words/ |
| 12:11.42 | FISKER_Q | Dotted i did learn 2 english |
| 12:11.47 | FISKER_Q | but i copied another wiki article |
| 12:11.52 | FISKER_Q | and it was plural there |
| 12:11.55 | FISKER_Q | forgot to check it :P |
| 12:11.57 | Dotted | lern2english FISKER_Q |
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| 12:13.08 | FISKER_Q | btw Dotted |
| 12:13.14 | FISKER_Q | someone made a parser for wowhead |
| 12:13.19 | FISKER_Q | but it's tooltip is stupid |
| 12:13.44 | Dotted | just copy the css from mmo champion or wor |
| 12:13.50 | Dotted | but link? |
| 12:14.00 | FISKER_Q | sec |
| 12:14.11 | FISKER_Q | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar/viewitem.php?s=21e46be78cbcc0fb84a57d0da180e828&i=561 |
| 12:14.32 | FISKER_Q | as you can see it seems to expand according to the size of the text |
| 12:15.07 | FISKER_Q | anyhow what's the link to the mmo-champion css? |
| 12:15.15 | FISKER_Q | found it |
| 12:15.16 | FISKER_Q | *fap |
| 12:15.17 | FISKER_Q | * |
| 12:15.54 | Dotted | gief link to the parser nub |
| 12:16.03 | FISKER_Q | http://forums.eqdkp.com/index.php?showtopic=9342&st=0&gopid=50331&#entry50331 |
| 12:16.06 | Dotted | because that looked like thott |
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| 12:21.05 | Boubouille | FISKER_Q |
| 12:21.08 | FISKER_Q | Boubouille ! |
| 12:21.11 | Boubouille | there is a forum post about it, lazy ass :/ |
| 12:21.24 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 12:22.03 | Boubouille | [R] MKD fiskersucks |
| 12:23.26 | Boubouille | watch your pm |
| 12:26.41 | FISKER_Q | btw Dotted did skosiris add the item manually or what then? :P |
| 12:26.51 | Dotted | yeah |
| 12:26.55 | FISKER_Q | wtf |
| 12:26.57 | Dotted | i pmed him |
| 12:27.06 | FISKER_Q | I WANT STEVE BALLMER IN A PICTURE TO THE LEFT WITH A LINK TO MY PAGE |
| 12:27.07 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 12:27.15 | FISKER_Q | to the right actually |
| 12:27.16 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Kaso] by ChanServ |
| 12:27.26 | Dotted | ok |
| 12:27.29 | Qaletaqa | wut |
| 12:27.42 | Dotted | gief ballmer pic then |
| 12:28.36 | FISKER_Q | google motherfucker |
| 12:28.36 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 12:28.36 | Dotted | no |
| 12:28.38 | Qaletaqa | this chick i know is totally freaking out because her zonealarm or some similar firewall software keeps telling her that people on the internets are attacking her computer, and she is convinced that all of the "attacks" are personal |
| 12:28.39 | Dotted | gief link or die |
| 12:28.40 | FISKER_Q | http://www.tuaw.com/media/2006/03/ballmer.jpg |
| 12:29.15 | Dotted | crop it so it only shows his head |
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| 12:32.23 | Dotted | Fisker- Adys removed my music :(( |
| 12:34.00 | Fisker- | crop it to what size? :P |
| 12:34.14 | Dotted | no larger than 100x100 |
| 12:34.26 | Dotted | lower is preferable |
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| 12:36.48 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ballmer.jpg |
| 12:36.49 | Fisker- | :D |
| 12:39.04 | WyriHaximus2nd | Somehow it looks like the devil him self ... |
| 12:39.32 | Fisker- | i am the devil |
| 12:39.33 | Fisker- | himself |
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| 12:42.33 | WyriHaximus2nd | Who would be the four crownprinces of hell? It's allways devil this devil that but he needs to lads to help him xD. |
| 12:47.45 | Dotted | !updatewwstats |
| 12:49.09 | Dotted | !updatewwstats |
| 12:50.17 | Dotted | !updatewwstats |
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| 12:50.48 | Dotted | Fisker- |
| 12:52.35 | Fisker- | Dotted ! |
| 12:53.11 | Dotted | Fisker- |
| 12:53.12 | Fisker- | btw imo we should all embed that song you had on your userpage into our signatures |
| 12:53.28 | Dotted | aye |
| 12:54.46 | Dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Dotted&oldid=660469 |
| 12:54.48 | Dotted | \o/ |
| 13:06.24 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/what-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-expansion/ |
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| 13:59.53 | Aikanaron | wtf...never hire environmentilists....never |
| 14:00.51 | |Pixel| | :D |
| 14:05.55 | Qaletaqa | wow |
| 14:05.56 | Qaletaqa | yeah |
| 14:06.24 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/around-azeroth-would-you-be-prepared-if-gravity-reversed-itself/ |
| 14:16.50 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 14:16.57 | Fisker- | i just datamined your armory :O |
| 14:17.33 | Kaso | In your armory, mining your lewt |
| 14:17.40 | Fisker- | yarr |
| 14:18.11 | WyriHaximus2nd | Great another kid that thinks warcraftrealms.com has something to do with private server X_x |
| 14:18.18 | Qaletaqa | have any of you used the roster plugin that imports armory data? |
| 14:18.30 | Fisker- | omg you h4x0r reported WyriHaximus2nd |
| 14:18.55 | WyriHaximus2nd | Fisker-, rofl! |
| 14:19.27 | WyriHaximus2nd | It has to do something with the website domain it has to how else can they think it xD |
| 14:20.17 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 14:27.46 | Kaso | Hey Kasobot! |
| 14:27.52 | Kaso | KasoBot, Sup? |
| 14:27.52 | KasoBot | KasoBot Status is as follows : Processing itemID 23407 (Supple Cotton Bracer) Session status: 7/9999999 page generations complete. |
| 14:28.22 | Kaso | KasoBot, queue |
| 14:28.23 | KasoBot | KasoBot Edit Queue is 8 long at 10s between edits this is aproximately 1min queue |
| 14:28.23 | KasoBot | First 8 entries in queue; Padded_Running_Shoes, Farstrider's_Tunic, Sentry_Bracers, Supple_Cotton_Bracer, Farstrider's_Bracers, Well_Crafted_Long_Bow, Well_Crafted_Sword, Well_Crafted_Staff, unknown, |
| 14:28.29 | Kaso | lovely. |
| 14:30.07 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30311 |
| 14:30.08 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30311 |
| 14:30.41 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30314 |
| 14:30.43 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30314 |
| 14:30.44 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30318 |
| 14:30.45 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30318 |
| 14:30.49 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30312 |
| 14:30.51 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30312 |
| 14:31.06 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30317 |
| 14:31.07 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30317 |
| 14:39.40 | Kaso | KasoBot, die |
| 14:39.42 | KasoBot | Killing KasoBot process, at request of Kaso |
| 14:39.59 | Kaso | that is confusing... |
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| 14:41.02 | Kaso | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30311 |
| 14:41.05 | Kaso | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30314 |
| 14:41.08 | Kaso | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30318 |
| 14:41.14 | Kaso | oop |
| 14:41.41 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30311 |
| 14:41.41 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30314 |
| 14:41.41 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30318 |
| 14:41.42 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30312 |
| 14:41.42 | Kaso | KasoBot, overwrite 30317 |
| 14:41.42 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30311 |
| 14:41.43 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30314 |
| 14:41.45 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30318 |
| 14:41.45 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30312 |
| 14:41.45 | KasoBot | Attempting to overwrite itemID 30317 |
| 14:41.52 | Qaletaqa | what exactly is it doing, man? |
| 14:42.06 | Qaletaqa | if you don't mind my axin' |
| 14:42.41 | Kaso | Well my bot is doing its stuff and making item pages, and those manual commands up there are to over-write some non-boilerplated pages which proper stubs |
| 14:42.54 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Warp_Slicer&diff=prev&oldid=669310 |
| 14:44.09 | Fisker- | edit whore! |
| 14:44.16 | Dotted | spammer |
| 14:44.33 | Dotted | use dcc or something to issue commands :< |
| 14:45.01 | Kaso | i can use pm, but then the channel was silent so i didnt see anyone complaining |
| 14:45.09 | Fisker- | yay worldserver down |
| 14:45.20 | Dotted | lol |
| 14:50.39 | Dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ashes_of_Al%27ar bah |
| 14:52.50 | Kaso | bah? |
| 14:56.24 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/around-azeroth-would-you-be-prepared-if-gravity-reversed-itself/ |
| 14:56.25 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/what-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-next-expansion/ |
| 14:56.25 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/breakfast-topic-famous-last-words/ |
| 14:56.25 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/30/hybrid-theory-getting-into-raids-as-an-off-spec/ |
| 14:56.25 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/30/how-old-are-those-playing-your-class/ |
| 15:00.20 | Dotted | lol |
| 15:00.56 | Dotted | Kaso armory link |
| 15:01.23 | Kaso | what armor link? |
| 15:01.26 | Kaso | armory link |
| 15:01.31 | Kaso | Me armory link? |
| 15:01.48 | Dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ashes_of_Al%27ar that armory link |
| 15:01.49 | xb95 | you armory link. |
| 15:02.14 | Fisker- | OH U |
| 15:02.24 | Dotted | lol |
| 15:02.29 | Dotted | not armory link |
| 15:02.32 | Kaso | i didnt do that page dotted...? |
| 15:02.43 | Dotted | sigh :p, the ezralink |
| 15:03.49 | Kaso | im confused by you dotted |
| 15:04.08 | Dotted | me2 |
| 15:04.14 | Dotted | nvm |
| 15:07.26 | Bagginsww | So kirkburn are you really asleep? |
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| 15:07.39 | Dotted | someone will fix it eventually |
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| 15:16.24 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/wow-rookie-all-you-needed-to-know-about-stats-part-1/ |
| 15:23.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bagginsww, totally :P |
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| 15:24.42 | Bagginsww | ahh you read my latest post? |
| 15:26.27 | Bagginsww | guess so, saw yours |
| 15:26.28 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yeah, so far as I recall WotA describes them growing |
| 15:26.48 | Beer-Bot_v8-18 | Wow, my server really did die, the best pvpers left for an RP-PvP realm lol :( |
| 15:27.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | I think Tyrande is shocked because they could be demon horns, but then goes on to say "but actually, they're different, more natural"-type thing |
| 15:27.15 | Bagginsww | well in anycase if "shapes" of antlers is related to "position of power |
| 15:27.23 | Bagginsww | it could mean that they grew even further |
| 15:27.39 | Bagginsww | when he took up position to replace Cenarius he, :) |
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| 15:28.44 | Kaso | Kirkburn|sleep, you around for a while now? |
| 15:29.04 | Kirkburn | what's up? |
| 15:29.29 | Kaso | Kasobot is up and spewing out items again |
| 15:30.25 | Kaso | But, the thing is i'm heading away for the weekend in a bit, Im not sure what to do. |
| 15:30.30 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light#Arbitrary_break_three |
| 15:31.51 | Kirkburn | Kaso, only do as much as you feel comfortable doing :) |
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| 15:32.35 | Kaso | Well im contemplating leaving it on over the weekend, but i'd kinda like someone (you, or adys) to keep and eye on it, and perhaps pause it over-night when noone is around |
| 15:32.57 | Adys | mm? |
| 15:33.37 | Kirkburn | Well, I'm out tonight, but can do ... so we can pause and unpause now? |
| 15:34.08 | Kirkburn | And I'm sure Adys will help |
| 15:34.08 | Kaso | You can pause, but not unpause |
| 15:34.08 | Kaso | so you have to calculate how long you want it paused for |
| 15:34.16 | Bagginsww | edited |
| 15:34.16 | Kaso | KasoBot, pause 1 |
| 15:34.17 | KasoBot | Pausing KasoBot process for 1min, at request of Kaso |
| 15:34.31 | Kaso | thats how it works |
| 15:35.07 | Thrae | KasoBot, pause 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 15:35.16 | Thrae | Smarter then I thought! |
| 15:35.26 | Kaso | >.< |
| 15:35.30 | Adys | lol |
| 15:35.31 | Kaso | you broke it |
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| 15:37.56 | Kaso | Thrae, try again :> |
| 15:38.03 | Thrae | KasoBot, pause 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 15:38.03 | KasoBot | Non-ops can only pause for less than 5min. |
| 15:38.09 | Thrae | Awww |
| 15:38.23 | Kaso | KasoBot, pause 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 15:38.30 | Kaso | KasoBot, pause 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 15:38.31 | Kirkburn | How many more items does it have to do? |
| 15:38.33 | KasoBot | Pausing KasoBot process for 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000min, at request of Kaso |
| 15:38.34 | TecnoBrat | KasoBot, pause 5 |
| 15:38.46 | KasoBot | Pausing KasoBot process for 5min, at request of TecnoBrat |
| 15:38.48 | Beer-Bot_v8-18 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105982570&sid=1 |
| 15:38.50 | Beer-Bot_v8-18 | lol topic |
| 15:38.57 | Kaso | i can stop the pause from console ofc |
| 15:39.07 | Thrae | You should probably put a limit on it anyway ;) |
| 15:39.07 | Kaso | Kirkburn, im on 24181 |
| 15:39.15 | Kirkburn | "Kill pause"? :P |
| 15:39.22 | Kaso | so about 6000 or something? |
| 15:39.31 | Thrae | Well it seems one pause overwrites another, anyway, so it's not a big deal |
| 15:39.37 | Kirkburn | How long is 6000? |
| 15:39.43 | Kaso | itll take a while |
| 15:39.45 | Thrae | 6000 == 6000 minutes? |
| 15:39.46 | Kirkburn | 100 hours, duh >< |
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| 15:40.02 | Kaso | 6000 is a big guess though |
| 15:40.04 | TecnoBrat | 4 days, 4 hours Kirkburn :P |
| 15:40.15 | Kaso | prob less than 3000 page edits |
| 15:40.34 | Kaso | the problem is with pause im being lazy with pause and just doing "os.execute("pause "..time.."m") |
| 15:40.36 | Fisker- | Kaso according to my calculation it takes 22 hours to go from 1-99999 |
| 15:40.38 | Fisker- | in pure downloads |
| 15:40.44 | Fisker- | so how can't you be done already? :P |
| 15:40.57 | Kaso | well first i have a 10second limit between edits |
| 15:41.10 | Kaso | secondly i have to do parsing on the pages after i download em |
| 15:41.52 | Kaso | i takes about 5-6 seconds per item to "process" then the edits work in a seperate thread each ten second spaced |
| 15:41.52 | Fisker- | parsing smarsing |
| 15:41.53 | Fisker- | :O |
| 15:42.07 | Fisker- | so about 3 weeks from 1-99999 |
| 15:42.12 | Fisker- | given that they all contain data that is |
| 15:42.43 | Kaso | Kirkburn, i cant believe there is sutch debate over that picture >.< |
| 15:42.45 | Fisker- | this sucks so much |
| 15:42.59 | Fisker- | uploading 4000 files on ftp 3-5kB in size |
| 15:43.21 | Fisker- | and FTP is horribly slow in uploading several files |
| 15:43.25 | Kaso | Add into that the various bug fixes ive had to do, the various downtimes due to the wiki crapping up, and also the fact that sometimes i like to play games and stuff with my computer so the bot isnt always running :> |
| 15:43.40 | Fisker- | dedicated server ftw |
| 15:44.01 | Fisker- | perhaps i should make a bot do the same thing |
| 15:44.05 | Fisker- | and pwn you |
| 15:44.05 | Fisker- | :P |
| 15:44.08 | Kaso | >.< |
| 15:44.40 | Kaso | well ive got a >5000 edit head start :> |
| 15:45.19 | Fisker- | Kirkburn what do you say? Should we ban Kaso for spamming the wiki? |
| 15:45.28 | Fisker- | i think we should |
| 15:45.51 | Kaso | haha |
| 15:45.59 | Kaso | 6024 edits as of 20seconds ago |
| 15:46.05 | Fisker- | how can you see that? |
| 15:46.17 | Kaso | counting pages on user contributions >.< |
| 15:46.30 | Fisker- | stop it |
| 15:46.36 | Fisker- | that's MADNESS |
| 15:47.06 | Kaso | haha |
| 15:48.50 | Kirkburn | Kaso, the discussion was fun :P |
| 15:49.11 | Kirkburn | If he could have actually shown me a good reason why it wasn't them, I might have agreed |
| 15:49.59 | Kaso | i like the common sense "Who the hell else would it be" point |
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| 15:52.24 | Kaso | Ok, im gonna go pack my bags; im leaving it in your hands Kirkburn and Adys ! |
| 15:52.31 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 15:53.12 | Kirkburn | Kaso, you should borrow the emergency stop button from wikipedia |
| 15:53.13 | Adys | have fun kaso |
| 15:53.45 | Kaso | i saw that the other day actually |
| 15:53.47 | Kirkburn | A one click link for admins to temp ban and stop the bot |
| 15:54.16 | Kaso | then i'd have to write some sort of web-interface for the bot then, and that sounds like alot of work |
| 15:54.26 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Malfurion_Stormrage#Location.3F |
| 15:54.35 | Kirkburn | Kaso, no, not quite what I mean |
| 15:55.34 | Kirkburn | Like this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aksibot |
| 15:55.34 | Kaso | explain then |
| 15:56.06 | Kirkburn | This template - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emergency-bot-shutoff |
| 15:56.14 | Kaso | So it just bans the bot? |
| 15:57.23 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Teron Gorefiend movie by Nihilum - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=252.0 |
| 15:58.41 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 15:59.25 | Kirkburn | We could probably just steal the whole template :P |
| 15:59.37 | Kaso | Im already making KasoBot/Button |
| 15:59.52 | Kaso | if you wanna steal the template for a global thing even better |
| 16:00.29 | Kaso | Hmm |
| 16:00.35 | Kaso | didnt know wowwiki disliked svg |
| 16:00.58 | Kirkburn | WW:SR it! |
| 16:01.14 | Kirkburn | I like the "grind with my sister" thread |
| 16:01.17 | Kaso | already up there |
| 16:01.42 | Kirkburn | I find it odd when people talk about grinding at low levels though :/ I guess they mean levelling, not grinding. |
| 16:02.07 | Kirkburn | Grinding is what you're stuck doing in the late 40s, early 50s =) |
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| 16:02.37 | Thrae | The 50s had the Prohibition. |
| 16:02.37 | Kirkburn | (actually, having said that, it's not as bad as I expected ... there's *just* about enough quests) |
| 16:06.25 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/wow-moviewatch-nihilum-vs-kaelthas-sunstrider/ |
| 16:08.42 | Beer-Bot_v8-18 | [12:04:pm] <Thrae> The 50s had the Prohibition. |
| 16:08.45 | Beer-Bot_v8-18 | what? |
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| 16:11.44 | Bagginsww | oh, btw kirkburn I get impression, that guy we were aregueing with probably never red S&L, and was only going by what he could glean form samwise website, :p |
| 16:12.21 | Bagginsww | He wanted a "fact" check on the name Ash'alah, which was a fact from the book. |
| 16:12.34 | Bagginsww | related to tyrande's tiger |
| 16:12.37 | Kirkburn | >< |
| 16:13.47 | Bagginsww | plus the fact he didn't seem to know that the book discusesss illidan, tyrande and malfurion coming to Cenarious for instruction/help, long before hte war of the ancients and the first highborne |
| 16:14.09 | Bagginsww | simple to learn the way of the druids |
| 16:14.27 | Bagginsww | so that malfurion could pass that knowledge to the rest of his people |
| 16:18.15 | Bagginsww | oh readread it actually it was just before the war, but when the demons first attacked |
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| 16:18.35 | Bagginsww | they sought him out, to get help for their people |
| 16:18.42 | Bagginsww | in order to stop the invasion |
| 16:18.48 | Kaso | 240 Random suffix items in a row, wierd. |
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| 16:19.12 | Kaso | Kirkburn, Adys; im gone now, look after him good. |
| 16:19.19 | Adys | will do |
| 16:19.21 | Adys | have fun kaso |
| 16:19.34 | Kirkburn | Indeed, have a great weekend! |
| 16:19.38 | Bagginsww | oh krkburn |
| 16:19.44 | Bagginsww | how about this from frostsaber history, |
| 16:19.48 | Bagginsww | from manual of monsters |
| 16:20.02 | Bagginsww | Frostabrs have helped night elves since Kalimdor was first settled |
| 16:20.05 | Bagginsww | hah |
| 16:20.08 | Kaso | im revising for a philosophy exam, dont think i'll be having fun :< |
| 16:25.00 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light |
| 16:25.11 | Kirkburn | Oooh, new non-combat pet! http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow.pets/invertebrates/miscellaneous/firefly.asp |
| 16:26.17 | Kirkburn | Wow, http://www.warcraftpets.com/ is cool |
| 16:26.23 | Bagginsww | To be fair the section was 'Saber ca't and the line was actually referring to both frostsaber and nightsaber, and made very little distinction between the two besides a few stat differences, and combat styles. |
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| 16:26.40 | Bagginsww | but it was saying both had been helping night elvs since kalimdor was first settled |
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| 16:29.05 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, cool |
| 16:29.12 | Kirkburn | be back in a bit |
| 16:29.15 | Bagginsww | but ya, he can't use "hindsight" |
| 16:29.21 | Bagginsww | MG, LOL |
| 16:31.48 | Kaso|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KasoBot |
| 16:31.51 | Kaso|afk | Ok really gone now. |
| 16:33.46 | Kaso|afk | the last 520 items have all been random suffix items ^_- |
| 16:40.17 | Apollozeus | honestly |
| 16:40.26 | Apollozeus | those saber cats should all have their own article |
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| 16:43.18 | Boubouille | Kirkburn|afk ! |
| 16:43.22 | Boubouille | Vista support requested ! |
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| 17:02.32 | raipe231 | What is the point of getting Overpower rank2 for warrior. It only increases the damage from 10 to 15. |
| 17:04.32 | Devilkoul | for warriors, str is 1:2 AP? |
| 17:06.25 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/burning-crusade-reference-guide/ |
| 17:07.44 | Devilkoul | raipe231- uh what you mean that's a 50% damage increase |
| 17:08.05 | Devilkoul | why wouldnt you get it? |
| 17:08.08 | Devilkoul | expensive for ya? |
| 17:08.10 | raipe231 | but isn't 5 damage quite irrelevant |
| 17:08.22 | Kirkburn|afk | What level is that? |
| 17:08.28 | raipe231 | for en effect you get to do only once in awhile |
| 17:08.45 | Devilkoul | um at lower levels it all adds up |
| 17:09.01 | Kirkburn|afk | The level 60 effect is only +35 |
| 17:09.02 | Devilkoul | your gonna have to get it sooner or later |
| 17:09.23 | raipe231 | well I think rank2 overpower is only available at level 26 or something like that. and thats why it makes no sense to me |
| 17:09.39 | Kirkburn|afk | It's an instant attack, i.e. an extra attack with bonus damage |
| 17:10.00 | Devilkoul | lvl 28 |
| 17:10.10 | TecnoBrat | Interesting thread for those of you who like storytelling: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106668261&postId=1065790885&sid=1 |
| 17:10.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Compare levels here - http://www.wowhead.com/?search=overpower |
| 17:10.17 | Devilkoul | rank 1 is +5 btw and rank 2 is +15 |
| 17:10.49 | raipe231 | yep. just sounds a bit too little for me. |
| 17:11.01 | raipe231 | my mistake. it is 5 -> 15 |
| 17:13.22 | raipe231 | Anyway it does not give any WOW! effects for me. Basicly just irritates to advance levels and get crap like that available :) |
| 17:13.38 | raipe231 | but maybe thats just me |
| 17:13.49 | Devilkoul | its only a few silver for the upgrade |
| 17:13.54 | Devilkoul | worth it imo |
| 17:14.12 | Devilkoul | might not be the supa reach around your looking for but it's just lvl 28 nyways |
| 17:14.12 | Devilkoul | :D |
| 17:16.09 | raipe231 | I am playing with a friend of mine who plays a mage. They get all kinds of fun staff. I am not so sure how usefull though, but something cool to test anyway. |
| 17:16.49 | Devilkoul | cool |
| 17:17.18 | Devilkoul | get him to twink you out! :D (if he's high lvl) |
| 17:18.01 | raipe231 | she. and no she is at level 28 |
| 17:18.12 | Devilkoul | ahh |
| 17:18.24 | TecnoBrat | raipe231, except overpower with talents has a 50% crit rate. So its well worth it IMO |
| 17:18.41 | Devilkoul | ye imp overpower, if you have points there |
| 17:18.57 | raipe231 | ok. was not aware of that |
| 17:19.13 | Devilkoul | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=12290 |
| 17:20.02 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light |
| 17:20.04 | Bagginsww | he's back |
| 17:20.17 | TecnoBrat | Yea, so its an attack that has a 50% crit rate, that cannot be dodged, parried or blocked :) |
| 17:21.15 | raipe231 | to put it that way it sounds good. too bad I am building the fury tree. |
| 17:25.06 | Kirkburn|afk | I love this thread, especially when they start talking about Mary Hinge - http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=289899225&sid=1 |
| 17:32.42 | Skosiris | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=10204 |
| 17:32.42 | Skosiris | would anyone be so kind as to confirm the locations of Misha |
| 17:32.58 | TecnoBrat | lol wow |
| 17:32.59 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light#Arbitrary_break_three posted kirkburn |
| 17:33.40 | Bagginsww | Uh I encountered Rexxar by gruul's lair but not misha |
| 17:34.13 | chemosh_ | I've seen both in the stronghold iirc |
| 17:34.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Frostmaul? Frost giants? |
| 17:34.51 | Bagginsww | oh btw, there is a very cool new samwise artwork for rexxar that's superior to his ingame model |
| 17:35.03 | Bagginsww | should go up for his lore pixture |
| 17:35.07 | Bagginsww | *picture |
| 17:35.10 | Bagginsww | very nice composition |
| 17:35.13 | Bagginsww | background and everything |
| 17:35.15 | Bagginsww | and misha |
| 17:35.31 | Bagginsww | from tcg I think |
| 17:39.28 | Kirkburn|afk | I find it odd he thinks we've been personally attacking him |
| 17:39.54 | Bagginsww | ya, I think he knows his arguements are week so now he's resorting to victim fallacy |
| 17:39.59 | Kirkburn|afk | The only point that that might have occured is when he complained about the linsk not working (despite him using an almost identical link) |
| 17:39.59 | Bagginsww | *weak |
| 17:40.22 | Kirkburn|afk | bleh |
| 17:41.10 | Kirkburn|afk | "learn to internet" ... is that really an insult? I guess it could be ... :P |
| 17:41.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/know-your-lore-cairne-bloodhoof/ |
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| 17:49.43 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Khad1.jpg http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Khad2.jpg both from shads and light LOL |
| 17:50.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Sylvanas_Windrunner#Picture_Suggestion |
| 17:50.30 | Bagginsww | Lawl |
| 17:51.29 | Devilkoul | Skosiris, specific boss? |
| 17:51.58 | Devilkoul | or just general images |
| 17:52.32 | Devilkoul | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/archi10.jpg |
| 17:52.36 | Devilkoul | thats a good ingame arch one |
| 17:53.23 | Skosiris | I would like a general image of the landscape |
| 17:53.37 | Skosiris | w/o any players ` |
| 17:53.40 | Devilkoul | k |
| 17:53.45 | Devilkoul | ill see what i can dig |
| 17:55.18 | Bagginsww | ahhh he took it to my talk page kirburn |
| 17:55.22 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Baggins#Limited_knowledge_of_source_material.3F |
| 17:57.50 | Kirkburn|afk | I saw :P |
| 18:00.58 | Devilkoul | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/loading/Hyjal.jpg -- loading screen |
| 18:01.27 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/get-in-line-rezzing-order-and-you/ |
| 18:02.00 | Devilkoul | oh and found, http://www.curse-guild.org/hyjal/tyrande.jpg ingame Tyrande |
| 18:03.41 | Skosiris | Devilkoul, the kind of shot I`m looking for is http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&7.718#21768 |
| 18:03.42 | Devilkoul | yea |
| 18:05.13 | Devilkoul | still looking :D most kill shots im going through |
| 18:05.13 | Devilkoul | mostly* |
| 18:08.20 | Bagginsww | gg |
| 18:09.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, sorry, I'm giving you edit conflict hell |
| 18:10.48 | Bagginsww | np |
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| 18:11.10 | Bagginsww | posted |
| 18:11.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, a useful tool for when you make an error is <strike>bad text</strike> |
| 18:11.38 | Kirkburn|afk | TimRiker, hullo?! |
| 18:12.17 | Kirkburn|afk | (nvm, I see you've joined many channels) |
| 18:12.29 | Bagginsww | posted with the strike |
| 18:13.05 | Bagginsww | ok so he admited that he didn't read it from the book |
| 18:14.12 | Bagginsww | LOL he posted again |
| 18:16.23 | Apollozeus | lol baggins |
| 18:16.23 | Apollozeus | "You seemed to be unawhare that book describes the scene in the panoramic picture" |
| 18:16.23 | Apollozeus | You seemed to be unaware of the correct spelling of unaware :P |
| 18:17.43 | Kirkburn|afk | >< |
| 18:19.47 | Bagginsww | posted |
| 18:20.39 | Kirkburn|afk | bbiab |
| 18:22.11 | Bagginsww | bbiab? |
| 18:22.16 | Apollozeus | be back in a bit |
| 18:22.17 | Bagginsww | be back in a bit? |
| 18:22.20 | Bagginsww | oh ok |
| 18:22.20 | Apollozeus | :P |
| 18:22.27 | Apollozeus | ok |
| 18:22.29 | Apollozeus | what should I do |
| 18:22.36 | Apollozeus | in wow |
| 18:22.47 | Apollozeus | resume leveling my priest |
| 18:22.54 | Apollozeus | get the onyxia attunement |
| 18:23.04 | Apollozeus | grinding consortium rep |
| 18:23.11 | Apollozeus | or.. world of motecraft |
| 18:23.14 | Apollozeus | ? |
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| 18:27.49 | Bagginsww | probalby skip ony most people do :p |
| 18:28.15 | TecnoBrat | Devilkoul, what guild are you in? |
| 18:28.52 | Devilkoul | China Finger |
| 18:28.58 | Devilkoul | no name |
| 18:29.03 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 18:29.08 | TecnoBrat | you in hyjal? |
| 18:29.08 | Devilkoul | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Nathrezim&n=Devilkoul |
| 18:29.12 | Devilkoul | oh fk no |
| 18:29.14 | Devilkoul | i wish |
| 18:29.20 | Devilkoul | we still in ssc |
| 18:29.20 | Apollozeus | haha |
| 18:29.22 | Apollozeus | there are like |
| 18:29.26 | TecnoBrat | (Devilkoul) still looking :D most kill shots im going through |
| 18:29.27 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 18:29.28 | Apollozeus | only three guilds in Hyjal |
| 18:29.36 | Devilkoul | not my kill shots |
| 18:29.37 | Devilkoul | :D |
| 18:29.50 | deltron | dnt, nihilum, and ??? |
| 18:29.54 | Apollozeus | Forte |
| 18:29.55 | Devilkoul | curse |
| 18:29.57 | Devilkoul | hah |
| 18:29.58 | Apollozeus | is DNT out there? |
| 18:30.03 | deltron | oh dnt not there? |
| 18:30.05 | TecnoBrat | DnT has done Kael |
| 18:30.07 | deltron | they are slacking!! |
| 18:30.08 | TecnoBrat | so yea |
| 18:30.22 | TecnoBrat | I dont know if they are killing bosses in Hyjal tho |
| 18:30.36 | TecnoBrat | they should be .. have nothing else to do |
| 18:30.42 | Apollozeus | it's been quite some while since DNT had a world first |
| 18:30.48 | Apollozeus | it's all about Nihilum nowadays |
| 18:31.13 | deltron | for the horde! |
| 18:31.36 | TecnoBrat | so is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32896 a 100% drop now? |
| 18:31.44 | Apollozeus | yes |
| 18:31.49 | TecnoBrat | 40 per kill? |
| 18:31.51 | TecnoBrat | or 1 per kill |
| 18:31.57 | TecnoBrat | err 25 per kill* |
| 18:32.18 | Apollozeus | dunno |
| 18:32.23 | Apollozeus | I don't assume 25 per kill |
| 18:32.31 | Apollozeus | would be truly overrated |
| 18:33.33 | Apollozeus | yeah |
| 18:33.35 | Apollozeus | 1 per kill |
| 18:33.37 | Apollozeus | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32895#z0z |
| 18:33.46 | Apollozeus | this one is 1 per kill as well |
| 18:34.43 | Fisker- | of course |
| 18:34.50 | Fisker- | no reason for it to be 25 per kill :D |
| 18:35.32 | Fisker- | gonna be fun to see how this work out economy wise |
| 18:35.50 | Fisker- | at a point this can be used as a for-profit item for guilds with problems having people attuned |
| 18:35.54 | Dotted | if it was 25 per kill it would be a 2500% drop |
| 18:36.27 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/the-origin-of-daily-questlines/ |
| 18:37.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Baggins |
| 18:38.24 | TecnoBrat | Dotted, would it? |
| 18:39.01 | Dotted | ye |
| 18:39.03 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29906 = everyone in the raid can loot it |
| 18:39.50 | Dotted | wll TecnoBrat it only shows for the player when he loot the corpse as 1 :p |
| 18:39.54 | TecnoBrat | so not really "25 drops" more "everyone gets one" |
| 18:40.18 | Dotted | but technically its 2500% |
| 18:42.06 | Dotted | Skosiris http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32458 need som moderation tbh |
| 18:43.45 | Skosiris | Dotted, users will take care of that |
| 18:44.00 | Skosiris | they already did actually :) |
| 18:44.06 | Dotted | should be deleted tbh |
| 18:44.08 | Boubouille | [20:35:14] <Fisker-> at a point this can be used as a for-profit item for guilds with problems having people attuned |
| 18:44.13 | Boubouille | that's what I said when I posted the news :( |
| 18:44.17 | deltron | Skosiris: is there any way to get rid of all the 2.1 changes spam? just moderate them down? |
| 18:44.22 | Boubouille | you're stealing my ideas :( you stealer :( |
| 18:44.33 | Skosiris | deltron: yeah, that would be the way |
| 18:44.49 | deltron | Skosiris: roger that, it's quite annoying tbh |
| 18:45.09 | Dotted | an idea that isnt patentable in a country with sane patent laws, cant be stolen |
| 18:46.04 | deltron | Fisker-: heh gj on finding the mount :P |
| 18:46.20 | Skosiris | deltron: any page you're referring to? |
| 18:47.22 | deltron | Skosiris: let me get a few..sec |
| 18:49.48 | deltron | Skosiris: item 28735 |
| 18:50.13 | TecnoBrat | That Phoenix story is a great story imo |
| 18:50.36 | deltron | Skosiris: item 28765 |
| 18:51.02 | Skosiris | yeah just rate them down :) |
| 18:51.08 | deltron | been doing that |
| 18:51.16 | Skosiris | that's the best way to remove redundant/useless comments |
| 18:51.47 | deltron | do the negatives get scraped? |
| 18:51.58 | Skosiris | of course |
| 18:52.04 | deltron | excellent |
| 18:56.00 | Skosiris | lol @ http://2mdn.aolcdn.com/viewad/598266/6-300x250.jpg |
| 18:56.05 | Skosiris | (just saw this ad on wowinsider) |
| 18:56.11 | Skosiris | looks so gross |
| 18:56.37 | deltron | also |
| 18:56.59 | deltron | how would we go about removing comments like "drops off of blah blah" after they have been linked |
| 18:57.05 | deltron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28774#z0z |
| 18:57.40 | Devilkoul | ewww |
| 18:59.08 | TecnoBrat | deltron, like which? |
| 18:59.09 | Skosiris | hmm, we'd need 27 people to downrate the comment lol |
| 18:59.27 | TecnoBrat | Doing it now! |
| 18:59.29 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 19:04.54 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light |
| 19:04.56 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 19:04.59 | Bagginsww | it goeson and on |
| 19:06.00 | Bagginsww | To be frank the covers of War of the Ancients never specifically say they are "picturs of Illidan, Brox, Tyrande, Mal, Rhonin, Kras" etc |
| 19:06.13 | Bagginsww | but we know they are by what the story is about |
| 19:06.33 | Bagginsww | oh cover of WC3 with the night elf no source says that is "Tyrande" either |
| 19:06.45 | Bagginsww | and yet, it matches certain artwork we have for Tyrande |
| 19:07.32 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/your-first-wow-in-wow/ |
| 19:07.38 | Apollozeus | seriously |
| 19:07.53 | Apollozeus | I wonder why you keep debating with him |
| 19:08.02 | Apollozeus | he's in denial, there's no end to it |
| 19:10.20 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light |
| 19:12.38 | deltron | TecnoBrat: see the link? |
| 19:14.46 | Bagginsww | Lafs at appoly, indeed |
| 19:14.54 | Bagginsww | *appolo |
| 19:14.58 | Bagginsww | *apollo |
| 19:15.06 | Apollozeus | :P |
| 19:15.32 | Bagginsww | To be frank (and a little hawkeye tossed in... :p) . |
| 19:15.34 | Bagginsww | I had to say that LOL |
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| 19:18.48 | Apollozeus | Baggins |
| 19:18.49 | Apollozeus | it's on |
| 19:18.58 | Apollozeus | he's calling your comments "bullshit" :P |
| 19:20.00 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light |
| 19:22.22 | Apollozeus | hmm |
| 19:22.34 | Apollozeus | it's becoming a he said she said discussion now :/ |
| 19:22.49 | Bagginsww | Actually your the one that has been "begging the question" from the get go, even from your initial post on this subject... So I'll be the umpteenth person to call you on your bullcrap... |
| 19:22.52 | Bagginsww | ya appolo |
| 19:22.57 | Bagginsww | *apollo |
| 19:23.15 | Skosiris | what's with the argument about Tyrande? |
| 19:23.20 | Apollozeus | well |
| 19:23.28 | Apollozeus | he's seen a certain picture featuring her |
| 19:23.33 | Apollozeus | and he's CERTAIN it's not her |
| 19:23.43 | Apollozeus | despite overwhelming evidence |
| 19:23.45 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Panorama.jpg |
| 19:24.06 | Bagginsww | btw it sarted because he only knew about rightside |
| 19:24.10 | Bagginsww | of the picture |
| 19:24.13 | Bagginsww | not the entire picture |
| 19:24.21 | Apollozeus | he seems to be one of these fag christians ("EVOLUTION RLY DIDNT HAPPEN U NUTS!!") |
| 19:24.27 | Bagginsww | but even still he tried to "deny" the left side when proven that they were one |
| 19:24.46 | Bagginsww | I'm a christian but I believe in evolutio? Will I go to hell, LOL |
| 19:24.53 | Bagginsww | whatever |
| 19:25.01 | Apollozeus | well not all christians are fags obviously |
| 19:25.05 | Bagginsww | ya |
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| 19:25.11 | Skosiris | yeah but who cares anyway? :P |
| 19:25.16 | Apollozeus | just the ones that deny which has been proven right time and time again |
| 19:25.25 | Skosiris | drawings are always different from one another |
| 19:25.29 | Bagginsww | I don't agree with every point of evolution though. But creationists bother me.. |
| 19:26.27 | Apollozeus | well, I think creationism is at least a step in the right direction |
| 19:26.28 | Apollozeus | oh wait, am I messing it up with creativism now |
| 19:28.41 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light |
| 19:28.52 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:29.31 | Bagginsww | insepid non-dinomenational "intelligent design" is worse |
| 19:29.37 | Bagginsww | sure you won't say its god specifically |
| 19:29.46 | Bagginsww | ok I bet its the flying spaghettic monster |
| 19:30.01 | deltron | lol FSM |
| 19:30.12 | Apollozeus | lol, intelligent design... lol at the USA |
| 19:30.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Pastafarians ftw |
| 19:30.24 | deltron | lol @ religion |
| 19:30.25 | Apollozeus | where children actually have to learn about it |
| 19:30.36 | Beer-Bot_v8-18 | lol @ atheism |
| 19:30.42 | deltron | Apollozeus: I never learned about it |
| 19:30.43 | Kirkburn|afk | >_> |
| 19:30.50 | Apollozeus | just in a certain state deltron |
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| 19:30.54 | deltron | heh |
| 19:30.56 | Apollozeus | I couldn't be bothered to remember its name |
| 19:31.12 | Apollozeus | and it was recently introduced to the curriculum |
| 19:31.13 | Kirkburn|afk | It's interesting the view you get of religions when you're outside of them |
| 19:32.05 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 19:32.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, PM suggestion |
| 19:32.16 | Bagginsww | I'm on a sabbatical from organized relgion currently |
| 19:32.40 | Apollozeus | I'm grateful my parents never baptized me |
| 19:32.44 | Bagginsww | I'll probably return once I get to hawaii, but I neeed the break :p |
| 19:33.18 | Bagginsww | That's not to say I don't have strong beliefs, I just have some of my on interpretations. |
| 19:33.21 | Kirkburn|afk | I was baptized ... but I can't say that's it's affected me in any way. Besides, I recall nothing before the age of 5 :) |
| 19:33.32 | Bagginsww | well imo baptism should be a choice |
| 19:33.35 | Bagginsww | not something they give you as ababy |
| 19:33.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Bit hard when you're about 1 yr old :P |
| 19:33.48 | Bagginsww | ya exactly :p |
| 19:33.59 | Apollozeus | baptism of young children is stuffing a religion down someone's throat |
| 19:34.03 | Apollozeus | it's pathetic |
| 19:34.03 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 19:34.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, that's fair ... though I wouldn't expect many deep-set christians to agree |
| 19:34.31 | Apollozeus | deep-set christians are like "we're just making sure our children won't become sinners!" |
| 19:34.32 | Bagginsww | in bible babtism was something people received when they knew why they were receviing and they made the choice |
| 19:34.42 | Bagginsww | most were 12 or older |
| 19:34.53 | Bagginsww | not even sure where baby babptism comes from |
| 19:35.21 | Apollozeus | probably some fancy practice which originated from the upper class |
| 19:35.42 | deltron | why do they have to nip the tip? :( |
| 19:35.49 | deltron | that imho is cruel and inhumane |
| 19:36.39 | Skosiris | Kirky |
| 19:36.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Er, deltron, what do you mean? |
| 19:37.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Not jewish ... |
| 19:37.14 | deltron | circumsicsion |
| 19:37.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Skosiris, yup? Just having dinner be right with you ... |
| 19:37.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Not a part of baptism ... at least not here |
| 19:37.30 | deltron | jews aren't the only ones |
| 19:37.36 | deltron | well yeah |
| 19:37.51 | deltron | *shrug* |
| 19:38.56 | Bagginsww | nip the tip? that was so that jews could separe themselves from gentiles |
| 19:39.27 | Bagginsww | it was purely religious though it has some health benifits, as well as negatives, :p |
| 19:39.59 | Bagginsww | some christians practice it, though its certainly not required :p |
| 19:40.05 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:40.17 | Apollozeus | yeah, that was a thorough circumsizion |
| 19:40.17 | Apollozeus | :p |
| 19:40.27 | Apollozeus | circumcision* |
| 19:40.56 | Bagginsww | I won't ever have my children circumcised... |
| 19:41.08 | Bagginsww | though I feel sorry for the cultures that have it done at age 12 :p |
| 19:41.24 | Bagginsww | when they can feel the pain and remember it... |
| 19:41.26 | Apollozeus | just the idea.. some doctor touching my children's genitalia |
| 19:41.33 | Apollozeus | I wouldn't wanna think about it |
| 19:41.45 | Bagginsww | granted they do that anyways, just to make sure they are formed correctly :p |
| 19:42.00 | Bagginsww | not some hermaphrodite or something... |
| 19:42.15 | Bagginsww | and really doctors shouldn't make that decision... |
| 19:42.28 | Bagginsww | their have been some major mistakes on that issue.. |
| 19:46.44 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/level-70-combat-ratings-values-updated-and-listed-here/ |
| 19:48.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Leper_gnome#Locations |
| 19:49.16 | Bagginsww | mild change kirkburn to include that the lepers might be illidari leper gnomes from outland |
| 19:49.28 | Bagginsww | feel free to modify it further if you think it can be better worded |
| 19:51.50 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm just about to go out to the cinema, might take a look later |
| 19:52.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Be glad we don't have female circumcision |
| 19:57.57 | Apollozeus | god |
| 19:58.00 | Gryphen | yes? |
| 19:58.30 | Apollozeus | female circumcision = inhumane |
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| 20:01.24 | Bagginsww | female is the worst |
| 20:01.55 | Bagginsww | because its not true circumcision, its just removal of nerves so they can't feel anything :p |
| 20:02.12 | deltron | yeah |
| 20:02.17 | deltron | sorry I brought this subject up :P |
| 20:02.35 | Bagginsww | leaving sex for only procreation purposes and not pleasure... |
| 20:03.05 | Fisker- | i want to have sex with you |
| 20:03.09 | Fisker- | for procreation of course |
| 20:03.09 | Bagginsww | though male circumcision also removes nerves, its not at that level... Closest a male could have ot it, is have their glans cut off... |
| 20:03.24 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 20:03.48 | Bagginsww | this day and age you don't even have to have sex to procreate. |
| 20:04.21 | Bagginsww | it can be done outside the body in a tube, and then inserted with aneedle :p |
| 20:04.35 | Bagginsww | very cleanical... |
| 20:04.41 | Bagginsww | *clinical |
| 20:04.45 | Bagginsww | sp? |
| 20:11.18 | TecnoBrat | Bagginsww, it also causes desensitization (sp?) |
| 20:11.26 | TecnoBrat | is that even a word? |
| 20:11.28 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 20:12.03 | Bagginsww | well same thing as nerves tecno ;) |
| 20:12.11 | Bagginsww | I mentioned that |
| 20:12.16 | TecnoBrat | no, not really |
| 20:12.30 | Bagginsww | its just not as severe as having a clitoris chopped out |
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| 20:12.45 | Bagginsww | literally you'd have ot have your hole penis head removed to be at that level |
| 20:12.51 | Bagginsww | the *glans" |
| 20:13.06 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm off out to the cinema! Be back later, y'all! :) |
| 20:13.07 | TecnoBrat | its not caused by the removal of any nerves, but rather the nerves having constant contact and friction with clothing, etc |
| 20:13.32 | Bagginsww | well actually a lot of original nerves were in the foreskin which is removed |
| 20:13.37 | Bagginsww | that's what I was referring to |
| 20:13.46 | TecnoBrat | ahh yea, that too I guess :P |
| 20:13.56 | Bagginsww | ya, exposed skin dries out, and becomes thick |
| 20:14.09 | Bagginsww | so nerves aren't as exposed |
| 20:14.13 | TecnoBrat | weird conversation none the less, heh |
| 20:14.16 | Bagginsww | however they are still there :p |
| 20:14.32 | Bagginsww | sensiation is more limited, but not completely gone |
| 20:14.43 | Bagginsww | ya an weird convo LOL |
| 20:16.24 | TecnoBrat | |Pixel|, have someone confirm that it is Tyrande in this pic for us! http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Tyrandetiger.JPG |
| 20:16.26 | TecnoBrat | :) |
| 20:16.47 | Dotted | http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid934055428 <- lol WTF :D::D:D:D::DDD |
| 20:16.48 | TecnoBrat | gogo having an insider end the debate! |
| 20:17.17 | Apollozeus | insider? |
| 20:17.41 | TecnoBrat | yup |
| 20:19.24 | Bagginsww | what insider? |
| 20:19.38 | Bagginsww | Best perso to ask would be Samwise |
| 20:20.01 | TecnoBrat | |Pixel| is a server admin for wow-europe :P |
| 20:20.10 | Bagginsww | I doubt he'd know |
| 20:20.28 | TecnoBrat | He might know someone who knows though :) |
| 20:20.31 | Bagginsww | first off he's from europe, he probably doesn't have ties to the RPG teams. |
| 20:20.41 | TecnoBrat | Yea .. you might be right |
| 20:20.49 | Apollozeus | RPG teams? |
| 20:20.58 | Bagginsww | ya, the authors, editors etc |
| 20:21.06 | Bagginsww | metzen is the link to them as far as I know |
| 20:21.18 | Bagginsww | although samwise does artwork for them on occasion |
| 20:22.22 | Bagginsww | only problem is rpg writers and authors aren't a clear source of info. They sometimes make judgements and opinions outside of the books, that aren't necessarily the views of Blizzard. |
| 20:22.29 | Bagginsww | *producers |
| 20:23.00 | Bagginsww | While we are told we can accept what made it through into a book. We can't fully accept what they might say in public. |
| 20:23.27 | Bagginsww | actually pretty much the same for any author, including the ones that write for novels |
| 20:23.51 | Bagginsww | Comments by authors, artists, and Blizzard employees may also be of interest, but should always be clearly cited as such, and not taken as definitive statements of fact. |
| 20:23.58 | Bagginsww | I think that explains it better than me |
| 20:24.29 | Bagginsww | from the lore policy page |
| 20:25.01 | Bagginsww | I think the reason is sometimes authors can give conflicting info out their bounds. |
| 20:25.11 | Bagginsww | in an interview |
| 20:25.35 | Bagginsww | and sometimes you get things like Caydem saying that Garona was a half-orc |
| 20:25.38 | Bagginsww | metzen not confirming it |
| 20:25.48 | Bagginsww | and other sources denying it on published paper |
| 20:25.56 | Apollozeus | Garona being half-orcish is pretty much rocksolid >_> |
| 20:26.06 | Bagginsww | * meant half-draenei LOL |
| 20:26.12 | Apollozeus | lol |
| 20:26.29 | Apollozeus | well, half-draenei would make the most sense |
| 20:26.30 | Bagginsww | Caydiem is the only person that ever once stated she was "half-draenei" |
| 20:26.31 | TecnoBrat | LOL |
| 20:26.39 | Apollozeus | she was born before the dark portal was opened by medivh |
| 20:26.48 | Apollozeus | but I guess |
| 20:26.56 | Apollozeus | the word "sense" doesn't always apply to WoW lore |
| 20:26.59 | Bagginsww | well that would make the most sense based on the stupid rectoncs made |
| 20:27.07 | TecnoBrat | Apollozeus, OMG SPACESHIP? |
| 20:27.12 | Bagginsww | but if you go back to original stories |
| 20:27.20 | Bagginsww | she was definitely intended to be human |
| 20:27.26 | Apollozeus | TECHNO YES ITS AN EXODAR |
| 20:27.27 | Bagginsww | she states it herself LOL |
| 20:27.53 | Bagginsww | but whoever blundered and removed 15 years off the timeline after WC3 should have been shot |
| 20:28.06 | Bagginsww | first war was supposed to be 15 years long at least |
| 20:28.06 | TecnoBrat | I remember hearing the uproar about the drainei storyline |
| 20:28.12 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 20:28.26 | Bagginsww | ya because he either forgot as he claims or intentionally thought it would be better. |
| 20:28.35 | Bagginsww | for the most part I think it is better |
| 20:28.57 | Bagginsww | although it opens up new questions as to" true" story of sargera's past. |
| 20:29.03 | TecnoBrat | I believe stating "we are adjusting the lore, as we believe the storyline is better this way" |
| 20:29.06 | TecnoBrat | would be fair |
| 20:29.37 | TecnoBrat | Bagginsww, is there any wiki article about all of that mishap? |
| 20:29.44 | Bagginsww | I think so |
| 20:29.52 | Bagginsww | it linked under metzen's page, at least his quotes |
| 20:30.36 | Bagginsww | wel it used to be there |
| 20:30.46 | TecnoBrat | wow, that page is empty |
| 20:31.08 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Metzen_on_Lore |
| 20:31.35 | TecnoBrat | ahh thanks |
| 20:32.57 | Bagginsww | np |
| 20:33.32 | Bagginsww | btw draenei history in warcraft 1 or 2 had draenei on the planet at least 5000 years before coming to the portal |
| 20:33.59 | Bagginsww | that early they were farmers or something |
| 20:34.27 | Bagginsww | I should also take the direct quotes from draenei in WC3 they discuss somehat of a different history too |
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| 20:35.05 | Bagginsww | I don't chronicle for reasons of 'which is better' but to inform on artistic history of the source material. |
| 20:35.06 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v ClydeJr] by ChanServ |
| 20:36.34 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Anduin_Lothar#The_Second_War anyone mind if I remove the word "epic" it keeps on making me think of "mortal combat" |
| 20:36.50 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.24 | TecnoBrat | Bagginsww, yea I agree, the reason why I ask is cause I am curious .. mixups happen, I find it interesting. Right or wrong .. doesnt matter |
| 20:37.39 | Bagginsww | ya. |
| 20:37.54 | Bagginsww | some people like tracking the history and evolutio of a story |
| 20:38.16 | Bagginsww | I'm one of the fans of Chris Tolkien's HoMe series for that reason |
| 20:38.40 | Bagginsww | we get rare glimpses into the unpublished prototypes of the middle-earth universe |
| 20:40.33 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Timeline_%28RTS%29 really wish someone would add to that so it can be unstubbed |
| 20:41.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/goal/ |
| 20:43.23 | ClydeJr | ping Kaso, you still afk? |
| 20:50.16 | ClydeJr | hmm |
| 20:50.29 | ClydeJr | is kasobot supposed to overwrite existing pages? |
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| 20:54.07 | Bagginsww | You know I would like some quests that force you to invade other faction's cities : |
| 20:54.43 | Bagginsww | something challenging with good loot :P |
| 20:55.58 | TecnoBrat | I would like some quests in 5 mans in outland that give you better lore |
| 20:56.16 | TecnoBrat | BRD quests come to mind |
| 20:56.24 | TecnoBrat | ST quests also |
| 20:56.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/interview-with-a-farmer/ |
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| 21:00.50 | TecnoBrat | so the lurker below bug is all kinds of awesome |
| 21:03.54 | Boubouille | hmmmmm, I guess Kirkburn|afk is afk .... |
| 21:04.03 | Boubouille | who am I gonna exploit ... |
| 21:04.08 | Boubouille | Bagginsww ? :))))))) |
| 21:04.14 | Bagginsww | hmm? |
| 21:04.26 | Boubouille | I need someone very smart ! private message ! |
| 21:04.52 | TecnoBrat | oh, I'm definately out then |
| 21:07.47 | deltron | lol |
| 21:10.16 | Bagginsww | lo |
| 21:10.21 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 21:21.28 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.news.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/interview-with-a-farmer/ |
| 21:21.29 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.news.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/goal/ |
| 21:21.29 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.news.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/level-70-combat-ratings-values-updated-and-listed-here/ |
| 21:21.29 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.news.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/your-first-wow-in-wow/ |
| 21:21.29 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.news.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/the-origin-of-daily-questlines/ |
| 21:21.51 | Bagginsww | stabs newsbot |
| 21:24.46 | Dotted | wowinsiders rss feed is gay |
| 21:27.50 | Devilkoul | qft |
| 21:30.51 | Bagginsww | so is it possible to kil herod as a 70 mage? |
| 21:32.09 | Dotted | ni |
| 21:32.14 | Bagginsww | I tried at 60, and he really tore through me, I barely was able to shield myself and port out |
| 21:32.30 | Apollozeus | hmm.. |
| 21:32.38 | Apollozeus | I know Cath is easy as a 70 mage |
| 21:32.43 | Apollozeus | Armory.. never tried |
| 21:32.54 | Dotted | l2p Bagginsww |
| 21:32.56 | Dotted | :p |
| 21:33.03 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 21:33.20 | Bagginsww | I"m asking before I try to avoid golst repair if something goes wrong :p |
| 21:33.24 | Bagginsww | *gold |
| 21:34.21 | Bagginsww | but basically I was frost mage last time I tried to fight herod, and basically he's immune to frostnova and most slowing effects |
| 21:35.33 | Bagginsww | only way I was able to escape was because I ran across away from the steps jumped into the pit and from above, and then as he tried to work his way back into the pit, I had my ice barrier up,and was using my HS |
| 21:35.56 | Bagginsww | so by the time he made it back to me, he had a few hits knocking my ice barrier down and I barely ported |
| 21:36.10 | Bagginsww | of course now I could just use invis LOL |
| 21:36.18 | Bagginsww | if something like that happens |
| 21:36.25 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/new-featured-posts-page-at-wow-insider/ |
| 21:38.51 | Fisker- | hey Dotted |
| 21:38.54 | Fisker- | wanna kill all humans? |
| 21:39.05 | Dotted | ofc |
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| 21:52.53 | Dotted | Fisker- you are on tv http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid934055428/bclid933187314/bctid953521838 |
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| 22:15.03 | cladhaire | Skosiris: PING, can you PM me when you get a chance? |
| 22:16.08 | Bagginsww | LOL we upset ragestorm |
| 22:16.38 | cladhaire | ? |
| 22:17.01 | TecnoBrat | worldofwarcraft.com down? |
| 22:18.44 | Bagginsww | that is kirkburn and I, upset ragestorm. |
| 22:19.02 | Bagginsww | or at least kirkburn and that other guy :p |
| 22:20.54 | TecnoBrat | lol what did you say? |
| 22:21.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-ige/ |
| 22:23.10 | Bagginsww | well ragestorm left a message to that guy who started the whole arguement over hte picture, and kirkburn in his talk page |
| 22:26.20 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn |
| 22:29.26 | TecnoBrat | hahaha |
| 22:30.51 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tyrande_Whisperwind/Shadows%26Light over that thing... |
| 22:32.46 | TecnoBrat | lol yea, read that whole thing almost |
| 22:37.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Sylvanas_Windrunner#Picture_Suggestion |
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| 22:38.26 | Bagginsww | well ya, you can pretty much replace all of that guy's text with "nah nah nah I don't hear you nah nah nah" and still get his message. |
| 22:38.32 | Tusva | Hey Baggins |
| 22:38.40 | Bagginsww | ya? |
| 22:39.05 | Tusva | The image of Illidan on the front page is misleading. There's no real reason to believe that's THE Illidan, as there were lots of Demon Hunters. |
| 22:39.23 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:39.45 | Bagginsww | oh man could you post that in that topic? |
| 22:39.46 | Tusva | Been wanting to say that all day, but no IRC at work :P |
| 22:40.01 | Bagginsww | cause its funniest thig I"ve heard |
| 22:40.08 | Bagginsww | and ya the image isn't specifically marked as illidan |
| 22:40.17 | Bagginsww | and its based on old concept art for "demon hunters" |
| 22:40.22 | Tusva | Exactly! |
| 22:40.28 | Tusva | Who's to say that is The Betrayer? |
| 22:40.39 | cladhaire | Kirkburn|afk: PING |
| 22:40.40 | Tusva | The artist probably was making it in homage to Demon Hunters in general |
| 22:40.52 | Bagginsww | yep indeed, we can apply his "Law of coincidences" to most photes by blizard :p |
| 22:41.24 | winkiller | the demon hunter you just did not see may not be Illidan |
| 22:41.35 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:41.53 | Tusva | It MAY or may NOT have been Illidan, we need more proof! |
| 22:42.03 | Tusva | Honestly, look at his skin colour, that's definitely just some other demon hunter. |
| 22:42.03 | winkiller | it makes sense |
| 22:42.21 | Bagginsww | ya man this is good stuff you post it in that thread as your spoof to his uh "sense of logic" |
| 22:42.36 | winkiller | drawing a demon hunter should aggro aggro every metzen |
| 22:42.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Illidan_Stormrage.jpg and that who's to say that' sillidan? |
| 22:43.09 | Tusva | It really could be another Illidan_Stormrage |
| 22:43.13 | Tusva | Maybe that's his last name |
| 22:43.26 | Tusva | like Frank "Illidan" Stormrage, a gnome from Northrend |
| 22:43.38 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:44.01 | Tusva | Or maybe it's Kel'Thuzad, using his magicks to draw an illusion! |
| 22:44.10 | Bagginsww | well as far as I know the novel artwork of WOTA hasn't been given an explaination, explaining who each individual is |
| 22:44.20 | Bagginsww | they could be anyone |
| 22:44.57 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Akama.JPG and that |
| 22:45.05 | Bagginsww | sure it could just be another Broken |
| 22:45.11 | Tusva | Definitely |
| 22:45.13 | Tusva | there are TONS of broken |
| 22:45.17 | Tusva | Prove that's Akama |
| 22:45.18 | Bagginsww | standing next another Demon Hunter |
| 22:45.24 | Tusva | That's Frank |
| 22:45.46 | Tusva | How can we just ASSUME that because Illidan and Akama are working together that that image of a Broken and Demon Hunter together are them? |
| 22:45.57 | Bagginsww | its a coincidence |
| 22:46.20 | Tusva | clearly |
| 22:46.46 | Apollozeus | well |
| 22:46.49 | Bagginsww | it has tob e damn it, cause the person who said it is, is cclearly wrong, I'm calling him on his bullshit. - quotes that guy |
| 22:47.01 | Apollozeus | Blizzard released that along with their Black Temple trailer |
| 22:47.17 | Apollozeus | which featured Illidan and Akama |
| 22:47.22 | Tusva | allegedly |
| 22:47.44 | Bagginsww | artwork could have just been some old artwork they decided to toss on the source |
| 22:47.49 | Apollozeus | no, it didn't "allegedly" feature Illidan and Akama |
| 22:47.50 | Bagginsww | and had no meaning |
| 22:47.56 | Tusva | prove it's them! |
| 22:48.10 | Apollozeus | nvm, you're just trolling :p |
| 22:48.19 | Bagginsww | <3 satire |
| 22:48.26 | Tusva | :P |
| 22:48.29 | Bagginsww | its satire man |
| 22:48.33 | Apollozeus | almost fell for it |
| 22:48.37 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:48.58 | Apollozeus | what do you expect? it's 10 to 1 in the night ffs :p |
| 22:49.14 | Tusva | hehe |
| 22:49.24 | Bagginsww | we are just pointing out that commisioned artwork is sometimes released with products and are related to them, but blizzard doesn't always spell out in literal word what the image is. |
| 22:49.33 | Bagginsww | if we used that guy's logic |
| 22:49.39 | Tusva | and as such is open to furious debate! |
| 22:49.39 | Bagginsww | we could ignore all the artwork |
| 22:49.42 | Bagginsww | question it all |
| 22:50.01 | Bagginsww | cover of the S&L was no different |
| 22:50.24 | Bagginsww | it was commisioned for S&L, to fit the them of the book, and topics inside |
| 22:50.50 | Bagginsww | like picture of akama, and illidian releasd with black temple |
| 22:50.56 | Bagginsww | or the covers of the WotA trilogy |
| 22:51.03 | Bagginsww | the artwork has not "key" |
| 22:51.05 | Bagginsww | *no |
| 22:51.15 | Bagginsww | but its painfully obvious what the authors intended |
| 22:51.59 | Bagginsww | so we mock the guy and his slippery sense of logic, LOL |
| 22:52.14 | Tusva | it's like Mount Everest coated in butter |
| 22:52.43 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:53.53 | Bagginsww | btw http://www.wowtcg.fr/warcraft-funcards-carte-26.html |
| 22:53.58 | Bagginsww | that picture doesn't count |
| 22:54.05 | Bagginsww | it has a title :p |
| 22:54.11 | TecnoBrat | CLEARLY you would NEVER have the front cover of a book actually represent the contents. |
| 22:54.27 | TecnoBrat | Thats pure stupidity |
| 22:54.30 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:54.44 | Bagginsww | I mean never judge a book by its cover, but usually there is something relating to the contents |
| 22:54.59 | Tusva | Exactly. Those four people on the cover are in no way related to the four major characters in the story within! |
| 22:55.04 | Bagginsww | Although there was that time I opened up a star wars book, and half the book had a romance novel in it |
| 22:55.19 | Bagginsww | just kidding |
| 22:55.24 | Apollozeus | XD |
| 22:55.25 | Bagginsww | but its a story I heard |
| 22:55.36 | Bagginsww | apparently the printing press printed half the pages wrong |
| 22:55.43 | Bagginsww | it had content from another book |
| 22:55.47 | Tusva | fun! |
| 22:55.54 | Apollozeus | hmm, just like something that went wrong at a video sorting company |
| 22:55.59 | Bagginsww | alot of baudy stuff |
| 22:56.04 | Apollozeus | they accidentally switched porn with some business videos |
| 22:56.09 | Bagginsww | ya I remember that |
| 22:56.34 | Bagginsww | it was funny though the guy I talked to said it was like first 100 pages were fine |
| 22:56.43 | Bagginsww | and it switched in the middle of the chapter |
| 22:56.52 | Bagginsww | and he was like what the hell |
| 22:57.45 | Bagginsww | I mean it something like, Millenium falcon flew through dark space. Han sat next to his co pilot chewy ... and lady catherine slowly licked his shaft |
| 22:59.02 | Bagginsww | the parts he transcribed was the weirdest stuff ever. |
| 22:59.15 | TecnoBrat | LOL |
| 22:59.24 | Bagginsww | he said roughly 100 pages were wrong |
| 22:59.36 | Bagginsww | and he had to send it back for a replacement |
| 22:59.48 | Bagginsww | although I think he probably culd have made alot of money from the star wars geeks. |
| 23:02.06 | Bagginsww | I think there was a math book that had a picture of luke fighting vader on the cover. |
| 23:02.07 | Bagginsww | and one asks what that has to do with math... |
| 23:02.07 | Bagginsww | apparently it was in refrence to one single math problem in the entire book |
| 23:03.03 | Bagginsww | about ticket sails or some such thing... |
| 23:03.03 | Bagginsww | *sells |
| 23:03.17 | Bagginsww | oh ya a foreign version of Silmerillion |
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| 23:03.24 | Bagginsww | had weird duck people on the cover |
| 23:03.38 | Bagginsww | or maybe they were penguins |
| 23:03.42 | Patrigan | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=289999684&postId=2897237168&sid=1#1 |
| 23:04.01 | Patrigan | So what do you guys think? Put quite some work on that thing. |
| 23:04.17 | Patrigan | Posted it at the Guild Relations Forum |
| 23:04.43 | Patrigan | not really the most travelled forum, but with those goldselling adds, it's better not to visit the big fishes already |
| 23:05.15 | Bagginsww | and that was an official releas eof silmer title and everything. |
| 23:05.40 | Patrigan | I was expecting some remarks, you know :( |
| 23:05.46 | Patrigan | from anyone oO |
| 23:06.50 | Bagginsww | sorry |
| 23:07.39 | Patrigan | My mother always told me: "I can fill an attic with your sorries" |
| 23:08.51 | Bagginsww | I don't really keep track of server/guild pages |
| 23:09.11 | Bagginsww | but your guide seems pretty concise |
| 23:10.06 | Bagginsww | http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/reviews/images/silmarillion/1985cz-silmarillionb.jpg |
| 23:10.08 | Bagginsww | found it |
| 23:10.13 | Bagginsww | try juding the book by that cover :p |
| 23:10.52 | Bagginsww | I mean what does an egg and weird bird men have to do with the silmirils? |
| 23:11.27 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/rerolling-or-alt-itis/ |
| 23:11.46 | Patrigan | I don't even know the book :( |
| 23:11.56 | IWantToPlay | holy fuckin shit |
| 23:12.12 | IWantToPlay | someone changed my signature |
| 23:12.19 | IWantToPlay | on wow forums |
| 23:17.40 | Bagginsww | silmer? Thik of basically creation story, and traditionally nordic legiend retold |
| 23:17.44 | Bagginsww | *think |
| 23:18.11 | Bagginsww | elves and humans, some dwarves, tell of the creation of the rings of power |
| 23:18.19 | Bagginsww | much darker than LOTR |
| 23:18.30 | Patrigan | hmmm |
| 23:18.34 | Bagginsww | and written in a more archaic poetic style |
| 23:18.43 | Patrigan | Don't know if I'd like it |
| 23:18.53 | Patrigan | I'd like a slight light in the story |
| 23:19.24 | Bagginsww | it has light, its just a darker time |
| 23:19.26 | Bagginsww | no hobbits |
| 23:19.40 | Bagginsww | More like the dark ages I mean |
| 23:19.44 | Bagginsww | of the world |
| 23:20.10 | Bagginsww | the only thing I wouldn't go out and recommend it to people for is the fact that its slow reading |
| 23:20.18 | Bagginsww | you have to like the style |
| 23:20.38 | Bagginsww | one of those things a person should sample first, before going full in |
| 23:20.57 | Bagginsww | I love it, but I like poetic epic style. |
| 23:23.12 | Patrigan | No hobbits? |
| 23:23.27 | Patrigan | I mean, no hairy and ultimately deadly hobbits?! |
| 23:23.30 | Patrigan | how sad :( |
| 23:24.02 | Bagginsww | oh well there is Dreugain or something lke that |
| 23:24.07 | Mike-N-Go | Can someone elxplain to me why one would want to play the minimum numbers of games a week in the arena? |
| 23:24.14 | Bagginsww | basically uh hairless but deadly hobbit sized creatures |
| 23:25.07 | Bagginsww | they got mentioned in LOTR and made a small appearance in the third book I hear. But their past is expanded on in silmir. |
| 23:25.25 | Bagginsww | I haven't actually finished LOTR myself, slowly working on it |
| 23:25.49 | Bagginsww | I've only gotten into tolkien in the last few yaers sadly |
| 23:25.50 | Skosiris | patrigan: *poke* |
| 23:26.07 | Bagginsww | didn't really think of its existence before that |
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| 23:28.16 | Patrigan | Skosiris *poke* |
| 23:28.42 | IWantToPlay | Aeus changed my forum signature |
| 23:29.51 | IWantToPlay | grrrrrrrrr |
| 23:29.51 | Patrigan | Gratz! |
| 23:29.51 | IWantToPlay | so now im a member of Aeus-Changed-my-Forum-Signature-Association (ACFSA) |
| 23:30.24 | Patrigan | Omg |
| 23:30.28 | Patrigan | don't change that! |
| 23:30.32 | Patrigan | Wauw :( |
| 23:30.37 | Patrigan | wish I was member of that too! |
| 23:31.42 | Dotted | i need the uncaptioned picture of the cat that says 'im in ur akkount shardin your purplz' |
| 23:33.02 | Patrigan | uncaptioned as in "without text"? |
| 23:33.20 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Sylvanas_Windrunner |
| 23:33.31 | Dotted | ye |
| 23:36.59 | Dotted | lol cant even find the one with the caption |
| 23:37.02 | Bagginsww | another interesting thing menitioned is that resurreciton on a dead forsaken will only bring a forsake back to its cursed state, as the Scourge curse makes it virtually impossivle to bring a Forsaken back to life a sthe creature they were before they died. |
| 23:37.06 | Sandwichman2448 | You spelled 'the' wrong sir. |
| 23:37.12 | Bagginsww | teh? |
| 23:37.30 | Bagginsww | sandwhich that's like the most mispelled word or so I've heard :p |
| 23:37.31 | Sandwichman2448 | hte |
| 23:37.37 | Bagginsww | I mean its commonly mispelled |
| 23:37.43 | Bagginsww | hte, teh, etc :p |
| 23:37.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Taco? |
| 23:37.53 | Bagginsww | eht |
| 23:38.26 | Bagginsww | apparently one would have to have a miracle or a great wish in order to turn a forsaken back into a human. |
| 23:38.47 | Sandwichman2448 | I wrote a fanfic about that... |
| 23:38.55 | Bagginsww | those being highly expensive spellls anyways :p |
| 23:38.59 | Bagginsww | *spells |
| 23:39.02 | Bagginsww | ya? |
| 23:39.31 | Sandwichman2448 | it's badly written |
| 23:39.35 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 23:39.46 | Bagginsww | but ya what was your theory? |
| 23:41.00 | Bagginsww | oh sandwich I'll see if MG explains differenc between "intelligent and Mindless dead" better :p |
| 23:41.20 | Bagginsww | I'm assuming its a "will" thing, will to "survive" |
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| 23:44.00 | Sandwichman2448 | Umm... An infant that was born of a newly plagued woman and lived somehow gained an immunity to the lich king's necromancy and it was found by a paladin and it's blood was a regient for whatever... everyone was fighting over it then Trevor and his 'good' undead hide it. |
| 23:44.27 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah... |
| 23:45.13 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 23:45.27 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah... |
| 23:45.30 | Bagginsww | well the logic seems sound. I mean as far as vaccination theories work |
| 23:45.39 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah... |
| 23:45.54 | Bagginsww | big problem is plargue isn't just a disease, it has a magical component :p |
| 23:46.06 | Bagginsww | nasty stuff |
| 23:46.11 | Sandwichman2448 | I know that. |
| 23:46.59 | Bagginsww | So who wants me to expand on the Shadow article? |
| 23:47.11 | Bagginsww | Strongly thinking of doing that next |
| 23:47.17 | Bagginsww | after I finish with the classes. |
| 23:47.30 | Sandwichman2448 | What shadow? the forsaken relidgion? |
| 23:47.46 | Sandwichman2448 | Or the magic? |
| 23:48.29 | Bagginsww | the religion that's based on the magic :p |
| 23:48.34 | Sandwichman2448 | NORTHREND WAS JUST VANDALIZED |
| 23:48.43 | Skosiris | NO WAI |
| 23:48.50 | Dotted | GET IN THE CAR! |
| 23:48.51 | Sandwichman2448 | YA WA |
| 23:49.04 | Bagginsww | technically though "shadow" magic ingame is the represents several forms of magic in lore |
| 23:49.05 | Sandwichman2448 | What? |
| 23:49.07 | Bagginsww | including voodoo |
| 23:49.28 | Sandwichman2448 | Oooooo... |
| 23:49.56 | Bagginsww | Forgotten Shadow" as the name suggests, "menas that they had forgotten about it while trying to learn the light" |
| 23:50.25 | Bagginsww | Its really the Shadow |
| 23:50.43 | Bagginsww | so the cult is trying to relearn it. |
| 23:51.17 | Bagginsww | and its a very n asty cult, they want to eliiminate members of the Holy Light |
| 23:51.46 | Bagginsww | although, I suppose its somewhat fair, the members of the Holy Light want to elminate undead :p |
| 23:54.00 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Huge_picture Can someone help me? |
| 23:54.51 | Bagginsww | how long do you want them up? |
| 23:55.10 | Bagginsww | I mean I can delete them later if I have to |
| 23:55.25 | Bagginsww | also did you try different picture formats? |
| 23:55.29 | Sandwichman2448 | Hm... Depends |
| 23:55.56 | Sandwichman2448 | Formats.. jpeg gif and what else? |
| 23:56.28 | Bagginsww | png |
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| 23:57.43 | Dotted | png > * |
| 23:58.07 | Bagginsww | also you can manual shrink hte picture in paint if that's what your using |
| 23:58.23 | Bagginsww | better programs allow for it too |
| 23:58.30 | Bagginsww | I mean if you don't need a full sized screenshot |
| 23:58.55 | Sandwichman2448 | I have have tri core prossesser is that the problem <--Uber nerd |
| 23:59.55 | Bagginsww | uh well, in paint, go to options and pick "select all |
