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| 00:03.47 | Kirkburn | Wtf!? Check out Alexa ratings |
| 00:03.59 | Kirkburn | We hit 1,200 on sunday >_> |
| 00:04.38 | bagginsww | what's alexa? |
| 00:04.46 | Kirkburn | Website rankings |
| 00:05.02 | bagginsww | only 1200 to go, woot, LOL |
| 00:05.06 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:09.17 | bagginsww | strong dedication to bloodlines, as evidencedby the fact that the clans take their names fromtheir leaders. Interestingly, both tauren clans dwellatop mesas |
| 00:09.17 | bagginsww | do we have an article on tauren tribes/clans? |
| 00:09.58 | bagginsww | anycase that's most of the grimtotem info from book if its useful kirk? |
| 00:13.58 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/120-hours-of-world-of-warcraft/ |
| 00:13.58 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/guildwatch-a-good-healer-is-hard-to-find/ |
| 00:21.52 | Kirkburn | Haha, our server guy will be with us at Blizzcon :P |
| 00:27.10 | bagginsww | so now zarnks is tyring to make up a fictional "ogre" language to add to gronn and possibly ogre related pages :p |
| 00:27.19 | bagginsww | on racebox :p |
| 00:27.31 | bagginsww | sign agian I tell him that race box is not for rampant speculation :p |
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| 00:33.57 | bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Gronn#Ogre_language |
| 00:36.24 | bagginsww | someone should factionbox earthen ring LOL |
| 00:40.39 | bagginsww | then we could list all of its affiliations |
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| 00:42.47 | bagginsww | kirkburn i'm not quite sure of the entire aspects of your arguement about Earthen Ring |
| 00:43.12 | Kirkburn | See what I was reverting of Zarnks for an idea |
| 00:43.18 | bagginsww | but if its over the game treats npcs as far as aligntment |
| 00:43.35 | Kirkburn | I'm basically not sure that it's best described as a "Horde faction" |
| 00:43.36 | bagginsww | like hostile to friendly etc |
| 00:43.45 | bagginsww | those don't exactly fit lore |
| 00:43.55 | Kirkburn | In the same way the Violet Eye is not an "Alliance faction" |
| 00:43.59 | bagginsww | cause in lore almost any faction member could be friendly to the other side lol |
| 00:44.07 | bagginsww | its a tricky question |
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| 00:44.41 | bagginsww | I mean if brann shows up in game, and it followed lore he'd most likely be friendly to most horde races, red to forsaken LOL |
| 00:44.54 | bagginsww | but that doesn't mean he's a "horde" faction |
| 00:44.57 | bagginsww | member |
| 00:45.30 | bagginsww | so its very tough to know how much is just gameplay mechanic and intended to mean something |
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| 00:46.02 | bagginsww | I think a good example is grim totem lore wise they are part of the horde, but many members in game are hostile |
| 00:46.23 | bagginsww | but that's because of quests |
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| 00:46.29 | bagginsww | that require you to find out they are bad |
| 00:46.34 | bagginsww | and beat them up lol |
| 00:46.54 | bagginsww | although many of them are technically part of the horde |
| 00:47.08 | Sandwichman | Damn network! I am getting errors that I did not think possible! |
| 00:47.22 | Sandwichman | Yeah, the Zar thing. |
| 00:47.35 | Sandwichman | He did! :o |
| 00:47.46 | bagginsww | :p |
| 00:48.00 | bagginsww | basically I'm lost on what the arguement is LOL |
| 00:48.07 | Sandwichman | Can i help? |
| 00:48.19 | bagginsww | if you know more facts be my guest heh heh |
| 00:48.33 | Sandwichman | About? |
| 00:48.45 | bagginsww | uh earthen ring |
| 00:49.14 | Sandwichman | I gave my two cents. Is it not a consensus now? |
| 00:49.24 | bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Grimtotem |
| 00:49.41 | bagginsww | that article should explain that they mostly hostile in game for gameplay mechanics |
| 00:50.21 | Kirkburn | In the end it was mostly annoyance that Zarnks seems incapable of citing |
| 00:51.39 | Sandwichman | I have the manual... |
| 00:51.44 | bagginsww | I'm not sure what I think... I'm thinking they are most horde alligned, but it may be one of those rare cases where the game goes outside of its limited scale and allows horde members to interact with other races. |
| 00:51.58 | bagginsww | coming closer to the RPG's sense of scale |
| 00:52.08 | Sandwichman | Ah |
| 00:52.11 | bagginsww | but that's only speculation :p |
| 00:52.18 | bagginsww | I can't cite it |
| 00:52.28 | bagginsww | and kirkburn has a point |
| 00:52.28 | Kirkburn | There's an Earthen Ring guy in Telaar |
| 00:52.39 | bagginsww | the mushroom city right? |
| 00:52.45 | Sandwichman | I am glad the Voidwalker page is fixed. i just like bringing it up still. |
| 00:52.55 | Kirkburn | Nope, the Kurenai Alliance base in Nagrand |
| 00:52.58 | bagginsww | oh |
| 00:53.00 | Sandwichman | No the one in Nagrand |
| 00:53.12 | Sandwichman | Telredor is teh shroom. |
| 00:53.16 | bagginsww | kirkburn remember the blood elf in nethergarde? |
| 00:53.22 | bagginsww | He was an abassador |
| 00:53.25 | bagginsww | from the horde |
| 00:53.29 | Sandwichman | He is? |
| 00:53.36 | bagginsww | he's allied to both sides |
| 00:53.47 | Sandwichman | GL getting to him. |
| 00:53.50 | bagginsww | and he wants the alliance to have peace with the horde |
| 00:54.14 | bagginsww | He's one of those early blood elves like the one in sunrock |
| 00:54.25 | Sandwichman | Yeah... GROL IS STILL BUGGED! |
| 00:54.25 | bagginsww | that hinted that blood elves would join the horde he heh |
| 00:54.41 | bagginsww | you mean they haven't yet upgraded his graphic heh heh? |
| 00:54.53 | Sandwichman | Grol the destroyer |
| 00:55.02 | bagginsww | ahh |
| 00:55.05 | bagginsww | I"m lost lOL |
| 00:55.07 | Sandwichman | http://www.wowwiki.com/Grol_the_Destroyer |
| 00:55.09 | bagginsww | changing subjectgs heh heh |
| 00:55.20 | Sandwichman | I cant kill him, even at 70 |
| 00:55.25 | bagginsww | so kirkburn my point is the one in Telaar could be from the horde |
| 00:55.38 | Sandwichman | no, it is the Blood elf's quest to kill him. |
| 00:55.38 | bagginsww | an abassador of some kind |
| 00:55.53 | bagginsww | hmm interesting |
| 00:55.57 | bagginsww | so he defected? |
| 00:56.11 | bagginsww | what is the story behind the quest? |
| 00:56.17 | Kirkburn | Same as the guy in Garadar, both ambassadors I think |
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| 00:56.39 | bagginsww | but ya kirkburn stuff like that should be put into a speculation section not main article :) |
| 00:56.57 | Sandwichman | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elementalist_Ioki |
| 00:57.16 | Sandwichman | Him? |
| 00:57.20 | bagginsww | It needs to be pointed out that npc alignment doesn't necessarily denote what faction they actually belong to. |
| 00:57.57 | bagginsww | sometimes blizzard uses the neutrality/friendly just to allow more scale to the game. |
| 00:58.15 | bagginsww | remember the horde general in Ironforge? |
| 00:58.23 | Sandwichman | http://www.wowwiki.com/Arechron <-- He hints at leading the town itself. |
| 00:58.34 | Kaydeethree | he was tagged neutral, wasn't he? |
| 00:58.34 | Sandwichman | Neal before Zog! |
| 00:58.43 | bagginsww | kay I don't remember exactly |
| 00:59.03 | bagginsww | but he definitely could be interacted with |
| 00:59.09 | bagginsww | so he had to be at least neutral |
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| 00:59.53 | bagginsww | kirkburn I have a problem with the use "grudge" i'm sure there is a better terminology LOL |
| 01:00.22 | bagginsww | especially if these guys are "abassadors" :p |
| 01:00.22 | bagginsww | maybe I mean |
| 01:00.31 | bagginsww | I'd like to know why the blood elf had against one |
| 01:00.36 | bagginsww | *what the |
| 01:00.41 | Kaydeethree | bagginsww, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15539 |
| 01:01.49 | bagginsww | so he was "green" |
| 01:01.50 | bagginsww | ? |
| 01:02.04 | Kaydeethree | guess so, it's been 18 months since I've seen him |
| 01:02.10 | bagginsww | he's pretty much like the blood elf abassdor in nethergarde then |
| 01:02.20 | Kirkburn | New news on the MP :) |
| 01:02.46 | bagginsww | remember mario and luigi characters? The only rason one was horde and the other alliance was for quest objective reasons |
| 01:02.52 | Kirkburn | indeed |
| 01:02.52 | bagginsww | they weren't really alligned with either |
| 01:02.57 | Kirkburn | Not that Zarnks believed it |
| 01:03.03 | bagginsww | lawl |
| 01:03.04 | bagginsww | what an idiot |
| 01:03.24 | Kirkburn | He was determined to put some dwarves as defecting on the Horde page |
| 01:03.28 | bagginsww | I mean you just need to read both quest line stories to see they don't aren't sided with anyone :p |
| 01:03.46 | bagginsww | I remember that kirkburn LOL |
| 01:04.56 | bagginsww | but ya kirkburn keep that in mind if you choose to rewrite the earthen ring article heh heh ;) |
| 01:05.51 | bagginsww | bbl |
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| 01:40.44 | Adys | Morning |
| 01:40.55 | Kirkburn | morning! |
| 01:41.28 | Kirkburn | Useful MP news change btw |
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| 01:42.01 | Kirkburn | Had a 6 revert war with Zarnks earlier :) |
| 02:02.09 | Adys | !item 17982 |
| 02:02.21 | Adys | bah |
| 02:09.22 | Kirkburn | We have an average of 9.99 edits per page :P |
| 02:09.31 | Kaydeethree | nice |
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| 02:25.24 | Adys | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=17968 lol |
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| 02:27.23 | Kirkburn | huh?? |
| 02:27.33 | doskoi | #wow-lounge |
| 02:27.48 | Kirkburn | Aah |
| 02:27.52 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17968 |
| 02:28.53 | Kirkburn | doskoi, welcome :) ... Problems? |
| 02:29.33 | zeeg | http://mashable.com/2007/07/24/curse-2/ |
| 02:30.21 | doskoi | thanks, i forget a wow's channel name, include "lounge" :P |
| 02:30.50 | Kaydeethree | it's #wowi-lounge |
| 02:31.12 | doskoi | i get, ty |
| 02:32.15 | Kirkburn | zeeg, but is it active? |
| 02:32.18 | Adys | http://www.blizzard.com/press/070724.shtml |
| 02:32.25 | Adys | now THATS something i wasnt expecting |
| 02:32.28 | Adys | owait. |
| 02:32.30 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 02:32.56 | zeeg | not yet Kirkburn.. need to.. go over some design issues |
| 02:33.26 | Kirkburn | I have no idea how you will cope with us *cough* ... |
| 02:33.33 | spathi | oh wow bc isn't even out in china yet? 10m here we come |
| 02:33.42 | Kirkburn | spathi, indeed |
| 02:34.04 | Kaydeethree | adys; the announcement on wow.com is hilarious. forum memes ftw, even if the webmasters feel guilty about it |
| 02:34.14 | Adys | link? |
| 02:34.24 | Adys | im sorting some other stuff atm :P |
| 02:35.04 | Kaydeethree | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml using http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/news/images/07-07/sorry-wecouldntresist.jpg |
| 02:35.37 | Kirkburn | Whats' that all about? |
| 02:35.58 | Kirkburn | (it has a rollover effect on the page btw) |
| 02:36.18 | Kaydeethree | it's a reference to dragonball z. someone, I forget who yells "vegeta, what's his power level?" he responds, a little too over-enthusiastically "It's over 9 thoooooousand!" |
| 02:36.28 | Kirkburn | aah |
| 02:36.34 | Kaydeethree | er, 'vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?' |
| 02:37.30 | Kirkburn | pcj, oi, what did I say about bot edits |
| 02:37.40 | pcj | it's not bot edits :| |
| 02:37.52 | Kirkburn | It might as well be :| :| |
| 02:38.08 | pcj | just because i'm fast doesn't make me a bot |
| 02:38.44 | Adys | Interesting |
| 02:38.45 | Adys | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=19105 |
| 02:39.18 | Adys | This item used to be a drop from the two bosses in AV, but their loottables have been removed and since then they havent reappeared anywhere in game. However it seems their cost is now honor and AV marks |
| 02:43.44 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mr._Pinchy omg i want |
| 02:44.13 | Kirkburn | Awesome - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/24/senator-is-a-level-70-dwarf-priest-in-world-of-warcraft/ |
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| 02:54.00 | Kaydeethree | yay, that was pretty interesting. I feel bad for that server once that article makes it to wow general, though |
| 02:55.49 | Kaydeethree | s/yay/yah/ |
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| 03:00.39 | pcj | Kaydeethree meant: yah, that was pretty interesting. I feel bad for that server once that article makes it to wow general, though |
| 03:06.59 | Adys | LOL at the announcement |
| 03:21.16 | Kirkburn|sleep | G'night all |
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| 03:50.51 | Skosiris | 'night Kirk! |
| 03:50.58 | Skosiris | dang, 30 minutes late lol |
| 03:51.16 | Kirkburn|sleep | >_> |
| 03:51.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | Night Skosiris, slowcoach |
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| 04:22.55 | ghostiE | hello there |
| 04:28.19 | Sky2042 | bagginsww? |
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| 04:52.08 | Cecen | Not very chatty. :S |
| 04:52.35 | Cecen | So, uhm.. Thoughts on Shadow Priests losing PvP viability in return for PvE viability? |
| 04:56.33 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 04:56.58 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Duncan_Senturus#Paladins_in_Duncan.27s_command |
| 04:57.10 | Bagginsww | wrong link but mainly look at all the additions |
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| 05:03.57 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/25/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-shockadins/ |
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| 05:52.28 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Netherspite's beams changes, comics, 9 million WoW players.. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=522.0 |
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| 06:07.24 | Adys | greater blessings lasting 30 mins on ptrs oO |
| 06:07.45 | Adys | didnt see that in the patchnotes |
| 06:08.06 | Bibi | Et pourtant ... |
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| 06:15.16 | Thrae | !explicit |
| 06:15.17 | ThraeBot | Thrae: OK, I will now only respond to commands in this channel when addressed by ThraeBot: <command>. Note the ! is not needed. |
| 06:20.41 | Bagginsww | interesting so rpg was not the first source to call the leaders of the seven human nations, "rulers" "kings" and "monarchs, :) |
| 06:21.17 | Bagginsww | Its heavily mentioned in Day of the Dragon |
| 06:21.24 | Adys | Thrae ping |
| 06:21.57 | Thrae | Adys: Yeah? |
| 06:22.22 | Adys | I was just thinking earlier this morning it would be nice to merge a few bots we got into a single one |
| 06:22.42 | Adys | IRC bots that is |
| 06:22.52 | Adys | it'd give the advantage of using one that's always around |
| 06:23.08 | Adys | and it would actually make it easier to have stuff done by bots |
| 06:23.14 | Adys | Watcha think? |
| 06:24.34 | Thrae | Well FoxBot and ThraeBot share their code...I've been talking to foxlit about it, but he hasn't replied to me much |
| 06:24.46 | Thrae | As for NewsBot, I'm not sure what it's coded in |
| 06:25.44 | Fisker- | and then you suck btw |
| 06:25.53 | Thrae | NewsBot is Dotted's, right? |
| 06:26.32 | Fisker- | yes |
| 06:28.18 | Thrae | I'd be willing to give access to my bot to Dotted and foxlit if they want, but as for Dotted, dunno if NewsBot's in Lua... |
| 06:29.19 | Thrae | I could make it so various people can restart the bot, and update / supply new modules for new functionality |
| 06:29.44 | Thrae | Not really that hard. |
| 06:31.10 | Thrae | ~fisker- |
| 06:31.10 | infobot | fisker- is probably DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER, or a linux hater |
| 06:31.14 | Fisker- | ~thrae |
| 06:31.15 | infobot | well, thrae is awesome. |
| 06:31.21 | Fisker- | infobot_ gtfo |
| 06:32.24 | Thrae | ~emulate thrae |
| 06:32.25 | infobot | ~emulate Thrae |
| 06:32.37 | Thrae | ~emulate thrae |
| 06:32.38 | infobot | ~emulate Thrae |
| 06:32.41 | Thrae | The hell... |
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| 06:33.06 | Thrae | Someone screwed up my emulate |
| 06:33.17 | Thrae | ~literal emulate thrae |
| 06:33.18 | infobot | "emulate thrae" is "<reply> Uh, the next update to TinyTip will be soon! Really! ...When I get around to it. || <reply> I just learned how to divide by 0! Finally, I can get some action... || <reply> ~emulate Thrae" |
| 06:33.43 | Fisker- | owned nub |
| 06:33.46 | Thrae | infobot_: no, emulate thrae is "<reply> Uh, the next update to TinyTip will be soon! Really! ...When I get around to it. || <reply> I just learned how to divide by 0! Finally, I can get some action... |
| 06:33.57 | Thrae | infobot_: no, emulate thrae is <reply> Uh, the next update to TinyTip will be soon! Really! ...When I get around to it. || <reply> I just learned how to divide by 0! Finally, I can get some action... |
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| 06:35.01 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304211810&postId=3040049669&sid=1#10 <-i win |
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| 06:40.18 | Bagginsww | alright so was Terenas father "Terenas Menethil I"? |
| 06:40.46 | Bagginsww | I have a factoid about his father that might be interesting, to add to an article, but was wondering on what his father's name was :p |
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| 07:09.29 | Bagginsww | I'm not sure why darkspear info was split into two seperate articles |
| 07:09.42 | Bagginsww | I moved the info in the main troll article into the darkspear article |
| 07:10.00 | Bagginsww | and added disambig notes to the main troll article |
| 07:10.21 | Fisker- | stop speaking out of your head :( |
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| 07:12.02 | Bagginsww | huh? |
| 07:12.39 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304211810#12 |
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| 07:22.04 | Fisker- | |Pixel| |
| 07:22.10 | Fisker- | That interceptor better get optional |
| 07:38.18 | Adys | What interceptor? |
| 07:38.40 | Adys | (fisker-) |
| 07:41.56 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/25/condemned-2-team-works-with-esrb-to-avoid-manhunt-2s-fate/ |
| 07:43.08 | Fisker- | Adys they put in the interceptor for EU forums |
| 07:43.15 | Fisker- | <ascii-fuckfinger> |
| 07:43.25 | Adys | :o |
| 07:43.27 | Adys | where? oO |
| 07:43.40 | Fisker- | "EU forums"? |
| 07:43.40 | Adys | never seen it |
| 07:43.49 | Fisker- | was put in today or something |
| 07:44.27 | Adys | oh right |
| 07:45.20 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304151746&postId=3040049975&sid=1#64 |
| 07:45.22 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304151746&postId=3040049975&sid=1#67 |
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| 08:00.55 | Fisker- | no Adys|sleep |
| 08:00.57 | Fisker- | DON'T DO IT |
| 08:01.02 | Fisker- | DON'T FALL INTO THE ABYSS |
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| 08:41.04 | Fisker- | Poor liasanai |Pixel| :( |
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| 09:15.31 | Thrae | !explicit |
| 09:15.32 | ThraeBot | Thrae: OK, I will now only respond to commands in this channel when addressed by ThraeBot: <command>. Note the ! is not needed. |
| 09:16.25 | Fisker- | ThraeBot tits |
| 09:19.48 | Bibi | ThraeBot fisker |
| 09:19.52 | Bibi | :( |
| 09:27.41 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304171473&sid=1 <-poor liasanai Bibi :( |
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| 10:08.01 | Adys | sup fisker |
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| 10:19.40 | laurly | bot SD'ed stub guilds enjoy |
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| 10:28.24 | Fisker- | sup Adys |
| 10:28.39 | Adys | i just came back from the abyss |
| 10:29.35 | Fisker- | you shouldn't have gone in it at all |
| 10:29.39 | Fisker- | now you're a zombie :( |
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| 10:31.11 | Teomyr | lo |
| 10:41.33 | Adys | hey teo |
| 10:41.41 | Teomyr | heya |
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| 11:21.57 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/25/violent-games-under-discussion-in-united-arab-emirates/ |
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| 13:18.50 | laurly | are we laging again? |
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| 13:29.44 | pcj | no |
| 13:30.16 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304211931&sid=1#5 |
| 13:31.26 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304222242&sid=1 <-didn't know Zarnks played WoW |
| 13:33.44 | pcj | yeah, he plays on horde |
| 13:41.04 | deltron | whodat? |
| 13:42.35 | pcj | some wowwikian who keeps "fixing" alliance bias |
| 13:42.54 | deltron | lol |
| 13:43.00 | deltron | well there is a lot of alliance bias |
| 13:43.10 | pcj | not to the extent that he edits |
| 13:43.30 | Fisker- | his edits alone are shitty |
| 13:43.43 | Fisker- | He'll add some 3-4 line "note" in the middle of a sentence |
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| 13:44.56 | deltron | heh |
| 13:45.55 | Fisker- | gg blizzard whiners |
| 13:45.57 | Fisker- | "Just another example of their contempt for customers." |
| 13:46.03 | Fisker- | my reply: |
| 13:46.03 | Fisker- | Just another example of their contempt for customers.[/quote] |
| 13:46.03 | Fisker- | That sounds like a great business model: "We don't want customers" |
| 13:46.05 | Fisker- | doh |
| 13:46.08 | Fisker- | That sounds like a great business model: "We don't want customers" |
| 13:46.09 | Fisker- | :P |
| 13:48.26 | Kaso | The business model is more like "We want to spend as little as possible whilst still gaining customers", which blizzard are doing pretty well i think |
| 13:56.55 | deltron | maybe you can blame their parent company for that |
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| 14:00.54 | Aleandar | Am I wrong to feel the urgent need to remove that hideous tooltip oO |
| 14:00.55 | Aleandar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Malorne_Raiment |
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| 14:03.16 | Kaso | I think there is alot of debate on those "all in one" tooltips |
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| 14:04.42 | Aleandar | They're hideous and wrong... A totals-table is just better in every way |
| 14:04.57 | Aleandar | Anyway that's my idea about it, check T6 sets |
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| 14:05.29 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/25/around-azeroth-words-never-spoken-by-a-dwarf/ |
| 14:05.32 | Aleandar | except druid, i didn't have time yet ;) |
| 14:05.39 | pcj | which tooltip |
| 14:06.36 | Aleandar | i removed it already >< |
| 14:07.06 | Aleandar | I'll put total-tables up myself if i have to :/ |
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| 14:11.23 | pcj | yeah those are dumb |
| 14:12.27 | Aleandar | foxbot ill again? |
| 14:17.12 | Fisker- | fuck |
| 14:17.15 | Fisker- | they totally owned me |
| 14:17.21 | Aleandar | oO |
| 14:17.30 | Fisker- | by saying that if humans have had the shoulder issue then there would be a lot more whining |
| 14:17.56 | Fisker- | no way i can argue that! |
| 14:22.11 | Aleandar | Aren't there more humans then Orc? |
| 14:22.25 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 14:22.50 | Aleandar | Well assume there are, that should soften the ownage ^^ |
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| 15:23.44 | laurly | Gryphen clean up isle Speedydelete |
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| 15:32.39 | TecnoBrat | that is a lot of SDs |
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| 15:32.51 | Bagginsw | gomorning |
| 15:33.21 | TecnoBrat | morning |
| 15:34.22 | Bagginsw | I'd like to point out if anyone catches zarnks editing any cited line to either dillute it towards horde-bias, or remove it entirely, please let one of the admins know, for example me or kirkburn. And let the creep know he's not to remove cited information... |
| 15:34.36 | Bagginsw | we don't pick and choose quotes, :p |
| 15:35.01 | Bagginsw | I caught that he removed some cited lines in Forsaken article.~~~ |
| 15:35.14 | TecnoBrat | hey Bagginsww, I'm gonna go remove 10 quotes that are horde biased to balance it out? kk? |
| 15:35.19 | TecnoBrat | thanks! |
| 15:35.25 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 15:35.28 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/25/first-wow-insider-meetup-at-blizzcon-join-us/ |
| 15:35.36 | Bagginsw | if you do your dead, LOL |
| 15:35.40 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 15:36.08 | Bagginsw | nah all you have to do is find 10 quotes that show negative traits of the alliance, and add them to those races articles where its applicable, ;) |
| 15:36.14 | Kirkburn|sleep | It's only taken 2 1/2 years to fix this: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Race_links |
| 15:36.17 | Bagginsw | from a non-biased source |
| 15:36.21 | Bagginsw | or mostly non-biased |
| 15:36.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | We need to change links to /playable/ trolls to "darkspear" |
| 15:36.53 | Bagginsw | kirkburn I moved darkspear out of troll page as I felt the page was rather long as its a general article on all troll races |
| 15:37.08 | Bagginsw | and added disambig links within the article |
| 15:38.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | Bagginsw, baggins, Bagginsww, which is it? :P |
| 15:39.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | Good idea, anyway - I think we were pushing for that as long as this time last year |
| 15:39.46 | Bagginsw | which is what? |
| 15:40.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | Which name are you ;) |
| 15:40.34 | Bagginsw | uh my main name was bugged |
| 15:40.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | I now associate "baggins" with your sister, heh |
| 15:40.44 | Kaso|afk | http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4813/kara3qw3.jpg |
| 15:40.44 | Bagginsw | the laptop keeps losing connectino |
| 15:40.50 | Bagginsw | so this is an alternate |
| 15:40.51 | Kaso|afk | The Gryphen master! |
| 15:41.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | indeed |
| 15:41.11 | Kirkburn|sleep | Minus the master |
| 15:41.31 | Bagginsw | and kirkburn if my sister gets ahold of my wowwiki account and uses it I'll kill her ;) |
| 15:41.55 | Bagginsw | there can only be one baggins or two if they are named bilbo and frodo, ;) |
| 15:42.19 | Bagginsw | No one touches my precious account |
| 15:42.36 | Gryphen | :o |
| 15:42.38 | Bagginsw | my precious, precious, LOL |
| 15:44.40 | Bagginsw | I should see if I can add Bilbo Baggins, and Frodo Baggins as alt nicks LOL |
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| 15:46.14 | Bagginsw | nope can't have a long name like that lol |
| 15:46.56 | TecnoBrat | Bibi Bagginsw? |
| 15:47.04 | Bagginsw | LOL |
| 15:47.07 | Bagginsw | Zippo, ;) |
| 15:47.28 | laurly | should i set up the bot to remove guild stub if it passes all the requirements? |
| 15:47.31 | Bagginsw | I'd have nammed myself Zippo Baggins in LOTRO but they don't let you use baggins surname :p |
| 15:47.50 | Bagginsw | probably going to go with Zippo Firestarter |
| 15:47.59 | TecnoBrat | lol |
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| 15:48.41 | laurly | ahh 146 SD's thats not that bad last month it was 300+ |
| 15:49.35 | laurly | granted shes only on E so :) |
| 15:49.44 | deltron | SD? |
| 15:49.52 | laurly | speedydelete |
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| 15:51.26 | Bagginsw | kirkburn if dwarf page ever goes beyond being redundant information actually incorporates an overview of all dwarf races we can do the same thing as we did in trolls there as well. |
| 15:51.38 | Bagginsw | *and actually incorporates |
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| 15:52.12 | Bagginsw | but right now its kind of Bronzebeard dwarves 2.0 |
| 15:52.27 | Bagginsw | both pages share much of the same info |
| 15:54.12 | Bagginsw | kirkburn anyway you can reword "grudge" |
| 15:54.15 | Bagginsw | in earthen ring |
| 15:54.55 | Bagginsw | its puts too much towards horde-bias, that horde won't hold grudges, but alliance obviously does :p |
| 15:55.12 | Bagginsw | there has to be a more pc way of saying the same thing |
| 15:55.26 | Bagginsw | like abassadors or something |
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| 15:58.28 | Bagginsw | emissary? |
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| 15:58.39 | Bagginsw | representive? |
| 15:59.02 | Bagginsw | diplomatic? |
| 15:59.26 | Bagginsw | actually replace hold no grudges, to, are diplomatic |
| 15:59.33 | Bagginsw | ? |
| 15:59.50 | Bagginsw | I think that's pretty pc, and actually improved style wise, :) |
| 16:02.17 | Bagginsw | edited tell me what you think? |
| 16:02.51 | Bagginsw | btw by the power invested in me, it is my proclamation that the term "grudge" is banned from wowwiki except in talk pages |
| 16:03.13 | Bagginsw | unless a source specifically uses the term grudge is cited |
| 16:03.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | "ill will"? |
| 16:03.53 | Bagginsw | well the thing is I don't think we need to speculate why, just that they are in contact |
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| 16:04.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | True |
| 16:04.11 | Bagginsw | diplomatic is best imo |
| 16:04.40 | Bagginsw | look at akinos he's a diplomat but I wouldn't say he "bears no il will'' infact he probably bears a grudge LOL |
| 16:04.50 | Kirkburn|sleep | heh |
| 16:05.21 | Bagginsw | in his own thoughts he hates thef act he had to be stated in stormwind when he'd rather be kiling the alliance LOL |
| 16:05.28 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/25/wow-moviewatch/ |
| 16:05.28 | Bagginsw | *stationed |
| 16:05.50 | Bagginsw | but he's careful to hide his thoughts for diplomatic reasons |
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| 16:06.46 | Dotted | lol laurly |
| 16:06.52 | Bagginsw | polotics is a grey area its never good vs. evil though they'd like you believe that it is, LOL |
| 16:07.30 | Dotted | your bots edit of [[Guild:Driven_(Trollbane_EU)]] makes no sense |
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| 16:11.40 | Bilbo | going to reset the computer |
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| 16:23.36 | laurly | Dotted why not? |
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| 16:24.34 | Fisker- | man |
| 16:24.43 | Fisker- | perhaps i should see Ocean's 11,12 and 13 |
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| 16:25.02 | Kaydeethree | 11 was ok, 12 was meh, haven't seen 13 |
| 16:25.14 | Bagginswow | sigh I hate this pc's crappy connection :p |
| 16:25.31 | Fisker- | btw bagginsww |
| 16:25.35 | Fisker- | Zarnks play on WoW EU :O |
| 16:25.44 | Bagginswow | ahh |
| 16:25.48 | Bagginswow | he is eww |
| 16:25.51 | Bagginswow | ;0 |
| 16:27.02 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304222242&sid=1 |
| 16:27.02 | Fisker- | :P |
| 16:27.03 | Dotted | laurly because those cats was already there |
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| 16:27.21 | Dotted | {{Guild_EU|PvE|Alliance}} |
| 16:29.23 | Fisker- | were! |
| 16:29.51 | laurly | not according to history |
| 16:30.02 | laurly | she looks for the cats if she doesnt find them she adds them |
| 16:31.51 | Bagginswow | huh? |
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| 16:53.36 | Bagginsw | ok is it me or is wowwiki not loading well? |
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| 16:59.00 | laurly | its not you |
| 17:01.51 | Bagginsw | whoever wrote the part saying that apothecary society has left the rest of the world alone haven't done the quests where its learned that they are poisoning and enslaving the druids spirits in ashenvale, or not awhare that Forsaken have made deals wit the grimtotem making genocidal potions for them. |
| 17:01.51 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Horde#The_two_Hordes |
| 17:01.51 | Trae | grrrr come on guys surely there has to be some experienced pvp rogues in here. |
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| 17:06.43 | Bagginswow | anyone know the queswts in ashenvale where alliance learns about the forsaken's dark experiments there? |
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| 17:11.43 | Kaydeethree | ya. I forget which camp, but something sends alliance players over to the undead area |
| 17:12.46 | bagginsww | forsaken diseases |
| 17:12.50 | bagginsww | http://www.goblinworkshop.com/quests/forsaken-diseases.html |
| 17:12.52 | bagginsww | is one of them |
| 17:13.18 | bagginsww | we have the article up in wowwiki but I think we should include it somewhere in the forsaken article as well. |
| 17:13.23 | bagginsww | although toned down a bit |
| 17:13.33 | bagginsww | the facts not the opinions |
| 17:13.50 | bagginsww | that fact they are making poisions, fact they are testing them on night elves, etc |
| 17:13.59 | bagginsww | but not our opinion of the action |
| 17:14.30 | bagginsww | I mean keep it as npov as possible |
| 17:14.38 | bagginsww | and not sound like the alliance quest givers LOL |
| 17:15.56 | bagginsww | wonders if there is a horde related quests that explain it further |
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| 17:20.46 | Bagginsw | doesn't seem to be any fosaken related quests in ashenvale for horde |
| 17:21.00 | Bagginsw | so apparently this is one storyline horde wouldn't have any knowledge of |
| 17:21.18 | Bagginsw | kirk what's the quest citation command? |
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| 17:21.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | If there is one, I don't know it :) |
| 17:22.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | I just made that thing as a stopgap |
| 17:23.06 | Bagginsw | ahh |
| 17:23.10 | Fisker- | you cannot sleep Kirkburn|sleep |
| 17:23.28 | Bagginsw | I need ti cite that ashenvale quest/s in horde page |
| 17:23.54 | Fisker- | wtf Dotted |
| 17:23.56 | Fisker- | they're after me |
| 17:23.58 | Fisker- | http://www.berlingske.dk/indland/artikel:aid=922318 |
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| 17:29.12 | baggins | I think there are more encounters with forsaken evil plans than there are direct encounters with "evil" plans from other horde member races. |
| 17:29.45 | baggins | most direct conflicts between alliance and trolls, orcs, and tauren as I recall were over misunderstandings |
| 17:32.14 | deltron | I glanced at that |
| 17:32.23 | deltron | I thought it said foreskin |
| 17:32.28 | baggins | LOL |
| 17:32.28 | deltron | so I was like wtf |
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| 17:36.49 | baggins | we know what's on deltron's mind... |
| 17:37.43 | baggins | zarnks doesn't know what a citation is if it hit him in the head |
| 17:38.26 | pcj | how can a citation hit someone in the head |
| 17:47.56 | baggins | its a figure of speech :p |
| 17:49.31 | Kirkburn|sleep | *sigh* at WOW Insider: "There's also no question that this holiday season might be a tough one for keeping players hooked on a four-year-old game" ... pity WoW isn't even THREE years old yet |
| 17:50.37 | baggins | ok he's banned |
| 17:50.58 | baggins | kirkburn what level of banning is at now? how long did we ban him for last time? |
| 17:51.08 | baggins | he's removed cited quotes again |
| 17:51.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | Where? |
| 17:51.16 | baggins | and I arned him earlier today |
| 17:51.18 | baggins | in several articles |
| 17:51.24 | baggins | "horde" |
| 17:52.19 | Kirkburn|sleep | He's posted on the talk page |
| 17:52.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | And relented |
| 17:52.56 | baggins | nah he's saying its against npov |
| 17:53.11 | baggins | that's how he words it everytime he removes the line :p |
| 17:53.35 | baggins | just check he'll remove it again |
| 17:53.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | Ah, I was looking at Earthen Ring |
| 17:53.49 | baggins | speakign of horde |
| 17:55.57 | baggins | btw what was his next level of banning going to be? I think I should warn him what it will mean if we ban him |
| 17:56.03 | baggins | wasn't it about 2 weeks? |
| 17:56.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | 3 days |
| 17:56.09 | baggins | I think he was banned for a week last time |
| 17:56.14 | baggins | oh he was up to 3 days |
| 17:56.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | 1 day on the 27th May, then 3 on 22nd June |
| 17:56.51 | baggins | so what's next level after 3 day ban? |
| 17:56.56 | Taurmindo | Kirkburn|sleep: wowinsider is kinda bad at times. |
| 17:57.54 | baggins | 4 day or 5 day kirkburn? |
| 17:58.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | 5 day I guess |
| 17:58.34 | Kirkburn|sleep | Fortunately he seems to be learning what talk pages are for |
| 17:59.29 | Kirkburn|sleep | Posted on talk:horde |
| 17:59.38 | baggins | thanks |
| 17:59.40 | baggins | just posted |
| 17:59.51 | baggins | if I don't get the 400 error again :p |
| 18:00.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | >< |
| 18:00.24 | baggins | ok posted |
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| 18:04.26 | DuTempete | I just wanted to stop in and say that I am such a show-off, smart-assed attention whore... |
| 18:04.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | :O |
| 18:04.34 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 18:04.40 | DuTempete | hi, Kirk =P |
| 18:05.12 | DuTempete | And, yet, I'm quite proud of the way I replied to Piumosso... |
| 18:05.16 | Kirkburn|sleep | One is intrigued |
| 18:05.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | (and is looking) |
| 18:05.24 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 18:05.28 | Kirkburn|sleep | >_> |
| 18:06.21 | baggins | brb |
| 18:06.33 | Kirkburn|sleep | Impressive |
| 18:06.42 | DuTempete | Technically, I put the stress in the wrong place in "pentameter", but its said that way often enough I can get away with it. |
| 18:06.50 | DuTempete | Although I'm sure Piu will have something to say about it. |
| 18:07.48 | DuTempete | Well, I'm a writer. Piu's suggestion was pure provocation. =P |
| 18:08.37 | DuTempete | Aren't you supposed to be sleeping, Kirkburn? |
| 18:08.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | heh |
| 18:09.47 | DuTempete | Well, I can't stay. I have a test, tonight, that I still need to study for. =P |
| 18:10.44 | DuTempete | And I didn't even get through my watchlist. This is why I disappear during semesters. =P |
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| 18:23.59 | Dotted | Fisker- :D |
| 18:24.29 | Fisker- | :D? |
| 18:24.43 | Dotted | berlingske |
| 18:25.33 | Fisker- | self |
| 18:26.37 | Fisker- | the winrar is me btw |
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| 18:46.29 | Sky2042 | adys or gryphen |
| 18:46.36 | Gryphen | hmm |
| 18:46.54 | Sky2042 | need a delete on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Effect |
| 18:47.09 | Gryphen | did you not put sd on it? |
| 18:47.15 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 18:47.18 | Sky2042 | no lol |
| 18:47.29 | Sky2042 | just cleared up the rest of the pages that had it transcluded |
| 18:50.41 | Gryphen | the lower case fetish is annoying -.- its a title not a sentance |
| 18:53.43 | Sky2042 | on what page gryphen? |
| 18:53.55 | Gryphen | all the lower case changes going on |
| 18:54.04 | Gryphen | rare pets, external links |
| 18:54.15 | Sky2042 | it isn't a proper noun |
| 18:54.15 | Gryphen | they are titles, not sentances |
| 18:54.40 | Sky2042 | you might think so, but it isn't |
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| 18:54.58 | Gryphen | i know it isnt when used in a sentance |
| 18:55.13 | Gryphen | titles dont abide by such rules |
| 18:55.16 | Gryphen | looks ugly |
| 18:55.25 | Sky2042 | to you |
| 18:55.41 | Gryphen | yup |
| 18:55.49 | Gryphen | that is why i said it |
| 18:55.51 | Gryphen | not you |
| 18:55.54 | Sky2042 | yup |
| 18:55.56 | Sky2042 | not me |
| 18:56.19 | Kirkburn|sleep | Wha? |
| 18:56.20 | Gryphen | i know you are obligated to defend it |
| 18:56.24 | Sky2042 | obligated? |
| 18:56.26 | Sky2042 | no |
| 18:56.53 | Sky2042 | hihikirkburn |
| 18:57.50 | Kirkburn|sleep | See the Wikiapedia Manual of Style |
| 18:57.57 | Kirkburn|sleep | arf, Wikipedia >< |
| 18:58.12 | Sky2042 | or our MOS |
| 18:58.15 | Sky2042 | WW:MOS |
| 18:59.06 | Kirkburn|sleep | The section titles are more "phrases", rather than names |
| 18:59.26 | Sky2042 | unless its a proper noun :o |
| 18:59.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | Of course |
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| 19:03.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | Darkspear trolls love reptiles. >_> |
| 19:03.49 | Kirkburn|sleep | Or ... |
| 19:03.54 | Sky2042 | btw kirkburn|sleep, i like the dev page you threw together |
| 19:03.57 | Kirkburn|sleep | Darkspear trolls LIVE IN THE JUNGLE |
| 19:04.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | It's like saying humans love houses. |
| 19:04.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | Cool |
| 19:04.48 | Sky2042 | zomg kaydeethree, you made a table! |
| 19:04.59 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 19:05.05 | Kaydeethree | showing someone in wowi a nested table |
| 19:05.09 | Kirkburn|sleep | I so gonna get attacked for my changes on "Rare pet" |
| 19:05.20 | Sky2042 | not my problem! :P:P:P |
| 19:06.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | Gryphen, I wasn't really thinking when I made the template title case changes, I should have checked what other tables were using >< |
| 19:06.38 | Kirkburn|sleep | I just say one said "Neutral (Available to both factions)" and made it consistent |
| 19:06.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | *saw |
| 19:06.48 | Gryphen | i dont know what you are talking about |
| 19:07.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | "<Gryphen> all the lower case changes going on" |
| 19:07.09 | Gryphen | i didnt see yours |
| 19:07.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | Apparently you didn't notice that one then :P |
| 19:07.27 | Gryphen | just pcj's and sky's edits |
| 19:07.52 | Gryphen | seems petty and ugly to me |
| 19:07.56 | pcj | WW:BR |
| 19:08.30 | Gryphen | i never saw it mentioned before, if its what people want it what they want |
| 19:08.34 | Gryphen | im just voicing |
| 19:08.45 | foxlit | I don't think there's any real point in systematically going through and lowercasing the l |
| 19:08.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yeah, it came up a while back |
| 19:08.48 | Sky2042 | are yu actually botting it pcj, or you doing it manually? |
| 19:08.53 | pcj | manually |
| 19:08.58 | Sky2042 | thought so |
| 19:09.04 | foxlit | If you're doing something to that page, sure, change the L as well. If not, why bother? |
| 19:09.05 | Kirkburn|sleep | When the whole {{elinks}} thing was going on, there was general consensus to go back to "E l" |
| 19:09.06 | pcj | i have a javascript thing which helps me find the difference |
| 19:09.18 | pcj | other than that it's manual tho |
| 19:10.09 | pcj | should take it off WW:BR then? |
| 19:10.16 | pcj | since it's not that big a deal? |
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| 19:11.01 | Gryphen | id rather you remove plural from categories ;p |
| 19:11.02 | Gryphen | hah |
| 19:11.16 | pcj | give me an example |
| 19:11.22 | Gryphen | any category |
| 19:11.33 | Gryphen | almost all are plural |
| 19:11.36 | pcj | oh |
| 19:12.01 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Things_to_do wouldn't make much since as http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Thing_to_do |
| 19:12.06 | pcj | imo |
| 19:12.16 | Gryphen | well |
| 19:12.19 | Sky2042 | looooool |
| 19:12.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | First, remove title case from categories :) |
| 19:13.10 | Sky2042 | truuuuuuuuuth |
| 19:13.16 | Sky2042 | that needs to be changed in the policy first |
| 19:13.22 | Sky2042 | =X |
| 19:13.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | It was the original policy |
| 19:13.27 | Sky2042 | who changed it? |
| 19:13.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | Mikk, but accident |
| 19:13.34 | Kirkburn|sleep | *by |
| 19:13.36 | Sky2042 | ouch |
| 19:13.43 | Sky2042 | now every category is cappsed... |
| 19:13.44 | Sky2042 | blgh |
| 19:14.01 | Adys | nn and turning off the comp for first time this week >> |
| 19:14.02 | Gryphen | [[Soulstring]] is not a Bows, it is a Bow, and it is not an Epic Items, it is an Epic Item |
| 19:14.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | Night Adys |
| 19:14.26 | Sky2042 | the category is for "Bows" though, not for a "Bow" |
| 19:14.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | Indeed, it's actually a "bow" and an "epic item" |
| 19:14.29 | Gryphen | in my experience with databasing similar use is sigular |
| 19:14.56 | Gryphen | forums use, post, user, thread, not posts, users, threads |
| 19:15.17 | Gryphen | for example |
| 19:15.24 | pcj | Well, it's obviously up for debate |
| 19:15.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | Not to refer to wikipedia too much, but for them it's plural, sentence case |
| 19:15.56 | Sky2042 | wooooooo |
| 19:16.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | (we don't have to do what they do, of course) |
| 19:16.14 | Sky2042 | bah |
| 19:16.20 | pcj | Kirkburn, I think i remember reading something on your profile... |
| 19:16.23 | Gryphen | i doubt it will be changed, just a peeve of mine |
| 19:16.28 | pcj | ah, yep... "WoWWiki is not wikipedia!" |
| 19:17.35 | Sky2042 | my biggest peave with cats (other than caps) is the whole Cat:<"zone">:subzone, or Cat:Armor:black, etc |
| 19:18.57 | Sky2042 | it should be cat:zone subzones, as a subcate of cat:zone |
| 19:27.30 | pcj | gg |
| 19:28.07 | Kaso | Good Game? |
| 19:28.16 | Sky2042 | good god? |
| 19:29.07 | pcj | good going |
| 19:29.15 | Sky2042 | why? |
| 19:29.46 | pcj | nvm |
| 19:29.55 | Sky2042 | i don't know how you could call those islands south west... |
| 19:30.03 | deltron | good gravy |
| 19:30.15 | pcj | look at the map sky... |
| 19:30.26 | Kaso | Good (ness) gracious me ? |
| 19:30.37 | Sky2042 | well, they aren't. i'm not saying your change was wrong, the statement in itself is wrong |
| 19:31.01 | pcj | :| |
| 19:31.04 | Sky2042 | fisker-, how hard is it to set up pywiki? |
| 19:32.22 | Fisker- | well doesn't look that hard |
| 19:32.35 | Fisker- | but i haven't gotten the disambig script to work it says it doesn't know the category |
| 19:32.39 | Fisker- | and i don't know how to make a custom one |
| 19:32.55 | Fisker- | wikipedia has disambig and wowwiki has disambigs |
| 19:33.23 | Sky2042 | categorys? |
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| 19:34.37 | Fisker- | for some reason it wants the category rather than the special page to parse them |
| 19:35.44 | Sky2042 | so, chnage the disambig templates to point to category:disambiguation, move the info at cat:disambiguations, and have the second deleted |
| 19:36.10 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 19:36.32 | Fisker- | my mother |
| 19:37.04 | Sky2042 | alternatively, why don't you tweak the script? |
| 19:37.46 | Fisker- | i am no ze coder |
| 19:38.11 | Sky2042 | seriously, you can't find where it says disambiguation and change it to disambiguations? |
| 19:38.18 | Sky2042 | is it just, hidden? |
| 19:39.15 | Fisker- | it's fetching from another file |
| 19:39.19 | Fisker- | and i'm lazy to look for it |
| 19:41.11 | Kirkburn|sleep | Check out [[ BankersGuide ]], not sure what to do with it |
| 19:41.53 | Sky2042 | neither was i |
| 19:42.01 | Sky2042 | Guid to bank alts? |
| 19:42.04 | Sky2042 | :X |
| 19:42.12 | Sky2042 | Guide to the bank? |
| 19:42.15 | deltron | heh |
| 19:42.25 | deltron | I have a banker alt guild that I'm the GM of :D |
| 19:43.03 | Kirkburn|sleep | Perry Gatner, now that's a cool NPC |
| 19:44.32 | Sky2042 | what the hell |
| 19:45.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | Not very funny though |
| 19:45.11 | Kirkburn|sleep | Awful jokes |
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| 19:50.07 | Sky2042 | hey, kirkburn, could you add the color for blizz text to the css? |
| 19:50.08 | Sky2042 | random question |
| 19:50.44 | Kirkburn|sleep | Sure |
| 19:51.08 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Blizztextcolor |
| 19:52.15 | Fisker- | do want liek mmo-champion.com |
| 19:52.35 | Boubouille | MMO CHAMPION IS COPYRITED ! |
| 19:52.49 | deltron | lol |
| 19:52.51 | Sky2042 | eh? |
| 19:52.55 | Boubouille | It's hundred of code to make it compatible with Kirkburn's vista |
| 19:53.00 | Sky2042 | loooooooool |
| 19:53.01 | Boubouille | You cannot steal it § |
| 19:53.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | .blizztext |
| 19:53.09 | Boubouille | Or I .... |
| 19:53.12 | Boubouille | I .... |
| 19:53.14 | Boubouille | I'll speak french. |
| 19:53.25 | Kaydeethree | not french, nooooooooo! |
| 19:53.28 | Fisker- | Boubouille this is the interbutts |
| 19:53.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | class="blizztext" should do it now |
| 19:53.31 | Fisker- | nothing is copyrighted |
| 19:53.43 | Boubouille | wowwiki is ! |
| 19:53.50 | Fisker- | no me |
| 19:54.51 | Sky2042 | cool@kirkburn |
| 19:54.56 | Sky2042 | span class? |
| 19:55.15 | pcj | or div class |
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| 19:55.31 | Kirkburn|sleep | notice how I said "class"? |
| 19:55.39 | pcj | no, i missed that |
| 19:55.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | hmm |
| 19:56.05 | Kirkburn|sleep | It was still a nonsensical question |
| 19:56.20 | deltron | :) |
| 19:56.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | If you intended "is it a class or an id", I would still have to verily mock you |
| 19:58.02 | Teomyr | why prefix the class styles in css... class="rogue" would be much cooler :P |
| 19:58.36 | Kirkburn|sleep | lol |
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| 20:06.32 | Sandwichman | Does anyone mind if Zar deletes the section of Horde? |
| 20:06.41 | Kaydeethree | well look who's finally out of bed |
| 20:06.45 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 20:06.56 | Kirkburn | Sandwichman, he pretty much made it in the first place |
| 20:07.49 | Sandwichman | Taurenchief did |
| 20:09.30 | Kirkburn | No, I don't mind :) |
| 20:10.15 | Sandwichman | then tell Zar that. |
| 20:10.31 | Sandwichman | Oh, NVM he did it. |
| 20:13.53 | Sandwichman | [Important personal info here] |
| 20:14.51 | Kirkburn | Yay, no more smoking in Disney films |
| 20:15.11 | Kirkburn | (kids ones anyway) |
| 20:15.34 | Sandwichman | Eh? |
| 20:16.13 | Kirkburn | Meanwhile, Norway's Princess Martha says she has psychic powers |
| 20:16.19 | Kaydeethree | was there ever smoking in kids disney movies? |
| 20:16.32 | Sandwichman | Cruelella de'vil thing |
| 20:16.36 | Kirkburn | (Pirates of the Caribbean style films included) |
| 20:16.43 | Kirkburn | Anything branded Disney, basically |
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| 20:17.49 | zeeg | http://digg.com/pc_games/Curse_com_v4_launches_The_Gaming_social_network_for_MMOGs/ |
| 20:17.50 | Kirkburn | Oh, also Princess Martha can "teach people to communicate with angels" - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6915262.stm |
| 20:17.51 | zeeg | gogo |
| 20:19.02 | amro | "Meeting Stones can no longer be used to summon players that do not meet the level requirements." I thought this was the case already? |
| 20:19.51 | Panda | I think you could still summom higher lvl players? just not lower lvl.. not sure tho |
| 20:20.47 | amro | either way, blizz is lame |
| 20:20.48 | deltron | couldn't summon higher |
| 20:20.57 | Kaso | "Curse launches" - oh god |
| 20:21.24 | deltron | lol |
| 20:21.30 | deltron | welcome to digg! |
| 20:21.38 | deltron | Kaso: batten down the hatches |
| 20:22.21 | amro | just yesterday I couldn't summon a 40 to ZF |
| 20:23.14 | Kirkburn | How awful |
| 20:23.30 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 20:23.47 | Sandwichman | I hate ZF. |
| 20:23.56 | Kirkburn | I've been once |
| 20:24.03 | Kirkburn | For about 10 mins |
| 20:24.13 | Kirkburn | Oh wait, ZF, not ZG >< |
| 20:24.20 | amro | ZF is awesome |
| 20:24.21 | Kirkburn | Um, yeah, been in ZF a lot more |
| 20:24.23 | amro | nicely laid out |
| 20:24.24 | Sandwichman | I takes hours just to get to the first named guy. |
| 20:24.27 | amro | good to practice grouping |
| 20:25.16 | Sandwichman | Yeah, it took longer than a full BRD run. |
| 20:26.14 | Sandwichman | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Skar%27this_the_Heretic |
| 20:28.09 | Sandwichman | Zarnks is a little biased. |
| 20:28.27 | amro | BRD, now that's a place I hate |
| 20:28.28 | Kaydeethree | "a little" |
| 20:28.37 | Kaydeethree | and swm wins the understatement award of the year |
| 20:29.11 | Sandwichman | Gimmie! |
| 20:29.35 | Sandwichman | [personal info censered] |
| 20:31.39 | MatthewS | I loved BRD + Invis potions, I hated BRD + bad pugs. |
| 20:32.10 | Jeremy2020 | but you loved bad pugs in other instances? |
| 20:34.10 | Sandwichman | Pugs are ugly. Frank from MIB was Ok. |
| 20:35.04 | MatthewS | yes, bad pugs in UD strat could just be hilarious |
| 20:35.18 | MatthewS | right after the first series of bat pulls |
| 20:36.04 | MatthewS | i made a game of seeing if i could make it to zone out before 3-4 groups killed me that some half-cocked hunter/war pulled |
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| 20:38.21 | Taurmindo | no foxbot? :( |
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| 20:39.04 | Taurmindo | yay! |
| 20:39.11 | Taurmindo | hugsie! |
| 20:39.40 | pcj | 15+? lol |
| 20:40.50 | Kirkburn | Taurmindo, oi |
| 20:40.59 | Kirkburn | I've been pinging you for like a week |
| 20:41.29 | Taurmindo | why? :P |
| 20:42.22 | pcj | !sup |
| 20:42.44 | Foxbot | There are currently 13 queued operations. |
| 20:43.16 | pcj | oh |
| 20:44.34 | Kirkburn | Plunda Klub |
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| 20:46.38 | Taurmindo | right, you got any news about it? |
| 20:51.08 | Kirkburn | Taurmindo, is it active? |
| 20:51.31 | Kirkburn | It's part of my job to help new gaming wikis :) |
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| 20:52.34 | Taurmindo | haven't activated it yet. this week has been both work and univ studies for me, so i haven't got any time. should be around at the end of the weekend if all goes well. :) |
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| 20:55.20 | Kaydeethree | if anyone's on the PvE PTR alliance side, send me (Kaydeethre) a tell. trying to get the /dev/null guild off the ground |
| 20:55.29 | bagginsww | can I ask what's up with people replacing "sentient" for "sapient"? |
| 20:55.53 | bagginsww | blizzard uses "sentient" usually :p |
| 20:55.59 | deltron | Kaso: i'll bug you on my horde toons :P |
| 20:56.00 | bagginsww | and the definitions aren't quite the same |
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| 20:56.08 | Taurmindo | Kaydeethree: can you check what recipes and what faction level needed with the viole(n)t eye has been added in the ptr? :) |
| 20:56.46 | Kaydeethree | sure, haven't they been added to the head, though? |
| 20:58.22 | Taurmindo | the head? wowhead? haven't actually used that one, mostly focus on allakhazam, as i find thottbot flobby and wowhead has alot of bad/lacking comments on the quests.. ;P |
| 20:59.24 | Kaydeethree | wowhead's basically all I use now that it's stable |
| 20:59.27 | Kaydeethree | load time > all |
| 20:59.33 | deltron | yap |
| 20:59.51 | deltron | I hardly ever alt-tab out for quests now that I use lightheaded though |
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| 21:00.32 | foxlit | Lightheaded seems like overkill |
| 21:00.59 | foxlit | alla is pretty bad for looking stuff up |
| 21:01.13 | deltron | lightheaded seems aok for me |
| 21:01.49 | foxlit | Don't need it, really |
| 21:02.18 | foxlit | Quest text is very often enough, and for when it isn't, I can actually remember most of the quirks |
| 21:02.47 | deltron | I really use it for the locs 90% of the time |
| 21:03.39 | Kaydeethree | Taurmindo, Pattern: Shadowprowler's Chestguard, Inscription of Endurance, Recipe: Flask of Chromatic Wonder, Design: The Frozen Eye, Formula: Enchant Weapon - Greater Agility, Pattern: Cloak of Darkness |
| 21:03.46 | Kaydeethree | I know the flask is new, dunno if any of the others are |
| 21:03.58 | deltron | I can't wait for the new stuff |
| 21:04.27 | Taurmindo | thanks Kaydeethree, i'm alchemist, so that sounds good. is the flask on wowhead? |
| 21:04.36 | Taurmindo | or, eh, i can just check.. ^^ |
| 21:04.52 | Kaydeethree | flask: all resists +35, stats +10, 7 dreaming glory, 3 netherbloom, fel lotus, imbued vial, VE - Honored, 3g60s |
| 21:05.40 | Taurmindo | hm. wasn't all that good. a tad disappointed i am. |
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| 21:11.49 | Kirkburn | Taurmindo, if you need any help on the site, I'm almost always here :) |
| 21:12.04 | Kirkburn | Btw, I love how the Wikipedia article for WoW needs fair use rationale on the screenshots |
| 21:12.17 | deltron | lol |
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| 21:12.31 | Kirkburn | Completely stupid rationale too |
| 21:12.38 | Kirkburn | Replaceable? "There are currently no free screenshots of a modified user interface looks like. |
| 21:12.38 | Kirkburn | " |
| 21:12.54 | Kirkburn | Or, they could look up Blizzard's policies |
| 21:14.53 | Kirkburn | ( http://www.blizzard.com/legalfaq.shtml ) |
| 21:15.37 | Kirkburn | Interesting, we've never actually made http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Copyright |
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| 21:22.41 | bagginsww | oh reventusk aren't technically part of the horde |
| 21:22.48 | bagginsww | they just have a treaty |
| 21:22.48 | Kirkburn | Major connection problems, bagginsw? |
| 21:22.55 | bagginsww | this laptop has issues yes |
| 21:23.14 | bagginsww | dell wireless |
| 21:23.14 | Kirkburn | Zarnks wants everything in Category:Horde >_> |
| 21:23.28 | Kirkburn | <-- this is a Dell |
| 21:23.44 | bagginsww | ya well I think this dell wireless card needs a replacement LOL |
| 21:24.18 | bagginsww | anycase we need to point out that reventusk isn't acdtually horde member only loose treaty |
| 21:24.35 | bagginsww | much like hinterland wildhammers to the alliance |
| 21:25.16 | pcj | item expedition bracers |
| 21:25.16 | Kirkburn | "Horde-aligned"? |
| 21:25.17 | pcj | mt |
| 21:25.27 | Kirkburn | item pcj's mom |
| 21:25.29 | Kirkburn | mt |
| 21:25.44 | Kirkburn | >< |
| 21:26.03 | bagginsww | Horde-aligned is fine ya |
| 21:26.14 | bagginsww | stonemaul is a member I think |
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| 21:29.09 | Taurmindo | !item Scarab Coffer Key |
| 21:29.15 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, Taurmindo, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Scarab_Coffer_Key |
| 21:29.28 | Taurmindo | !item Cho'War's Key |
| 21:29.28 | Foxbot | Queued your request, Taurmindo. You will be notified if it fails. |
| 21:29.51 | pcj | lrn2query imo |
| 21:30.25 | Taurmindo | ye, did my itemqueue query, couldn't be arsed to use a /w this time. |
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| 21:34.32 | Kaso | Damnit, so close to solo 45min run |
| 21:34.53 | Kaso | 45min baron run |
| 21:35.06 | Kirkburn | How close? |
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| 21:35.18 | Kaso | 2 abombinations left at the slaughterhouse |
| 21:35.24 | Kirkburn | ouch |
| 21:35.29 | Kirkburn | What class, gear? |
| 21:35.37 | deltron | hah |
| 21:35.38 | Kaso | Paladin, and PTR premade gear |
| 21:36.21 | baggins | Independent. Most forest troll tribes keep to their own agendas, but the Revantusk tribe |
| 21:36.21 | baggins | is now loosely allied with the Horde. While not |
| 21:36.21 | baggins | members of the Horde, they are its friends. They know compassion, though they find it a bit difficul to relate to the Darkspear jungle trolls. |
| 21:38.09 | Kirkburn | Kaso, think you could manage it a second time? |
| 21:38.42 | Kaso | ive done it like four times so far |
| 21:38.56 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:40.01 | baggins | added Horde-aligned and edited the passage to be reventusk specific |
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| 21:40.36 | Kaso | Ive got it down to a Tee almost now, the hardest part was working out the bat patrols |
| 21:40.55 | Kaso | once you have those memorised you can pretty much run from boss to boss |
| 21:41.37 | baggins | alright ya vampire bats can't speak but htey undrestand Low Common |
| 21:41.52 | baggins | someone needs to racebox them |
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| 21:53.18 | baggins | http://www.wowwiki.com/Vampire_Bat |
| 21:54.57 | deltron | horde? |
| 21:55.16 | deltron | I guess since horde rides on them? |
| 21:57.00 | baggins | trolls did |
| 21:57.05 | baggins | still do |
| 21:57.15 | baggins | almost everyone does now LOL |
| 22:00.15 | baggins | though technically I question how intelligent vampire bats are |
| 22:00.35 | baggins | just having some understanding of a language doesn't necessarily mean they are sentient |
| 22:00.57 | baggins | I mean dogs can be taught to understand words and be taught meanings for those words :p |
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| 22:09.12 | Kaso | I dont think a creature without language can be sentient really |
| 22:09.44 | Kaso | hmm im not sure actually |
| 22:13.16 | baggins | by most definitions of sentient ya, kaso |
| 22:13.37 | baggins | essentially sentient is limited to races that can reason |
| 22:14.00 | baggins | language is a strong part of that |
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| 22:18.18 | Fisker- | fly me to your mom |
| 22:18.38 | Kaso | the question is if you can have lanuage without spoken language |
| 22:18.55 | Kaso | or, perhaps i mean without external language |
| 22:20.14 | baggins | what about Helen Keller? |
| 22:20.40 | baggins | sure its possible to be sentient and not capable of speaking :) |
| 22:20.59 | baggins | but there are alot of things that are capable of speaking but not necessarily sentient |
| 22:21.09 | baggins | parrots? |
| 22:21.49 | baggins | ya kaso this gets into a very real anthropological and phylisophical debate |
| 22:22.11 | baggins | you have people that believe dolphins are truly sentient and those that don't for example |
| 22:22.17 | Kirkburn | *Sapient* |
| 22:22.41 | baggins | nah kirkburn sentient is used as a term as well :p |
| 22:22.49 | Kirkburn | Different meanings though |
| 22:23.01 | Kirkburn | Sapient is able to act with judgement |
| 22:23.05 | baggins | more along the lines of being "aware" |
| 22:23.10 | Kirkburn | Sentient is self-aware |
| 22:23.19 | baggins | ya |
| 22:23.31 | baggins | anycase kirkburn blizzard tends to use the term "sentient" |
| 22:23.32 | Kirkburn | (or at least percieve subjectively) |
| 22:24.07 | Kirkburn | (It's quite possible they may misuse the word) |
| 22:24.10 | baggins | sapient is more along hte lines of "wisdom" |
| 22:24.36 | baggins | well the thing is sapient implies a huge degree of wisdom |
| 22:24.39 | Kirkburn | So, I would suggest bats are sapient, but not sentient |
| 22:24.51 | baggins | then you are saying they are wise |
| 22:25.03 | baggins | which actually implies greater cognitive skill |
| 22:25.09 | baggins | there is ar eason why we are called homo sapiens ;) |
| 22:25.10 | Kirkburn | hmm |
| 22:25.23 | baggins | It comes from "knowledge" |
| 22:25.33 | baggins | great knowledge |
| 22:25.45 | baggins | basically its possible to be sentient but not sapient |
| 22:25.52 | baggins | but anyone sapient is sentient |
| 22:26.26 | baggins | intelligence doesn't equat to wisdom of course |
| 22:26.26 | Kirkburn | hmm, not sure now >< |
| 22:26.32 | baggins | http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=sapient |
| 22:26.33 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 22:26.33 | baggins | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.54 | Kirkburn | The orc article needs work btw, especially section titles |
| 22:28.01 | baggins | so basically in eredun when it says all sentient races of the burning legion, it implies that the races have at least a rudimentary knowledge |
| 22:28.06 | baggins | I agree |
| 22:28.38 | baggins | it doesn't mean they are wise creatures by any degree heh heh |
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| 22:30.01 | Kirkburn | Am gonna try tidying the orc article |
| 22:30.27 | baggins | k |
| 22:30.42 | baggins | if you need me to look at any sections with citation to check for accuracy let me know |
| 22:30.56 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.12 | baggins | oh and kirkburn rember the discussion about gul'dan's shaman classification? |
| 22:33.27 | baggins | If I was reading the rpg stats right it looks like he traded in most of his levels in shamanism for warlock skills as far as the game mechanics work |
| 22:33.27 | baggins | so he was a level 10 warlock, and left with level 5 shamanism |
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| 22:33.29 | baggins | with the few skills open at that level |
| 22:34.02 | baggins | no fancy summoning as far as I could tell |
| 22:34.03 | baggins | just some minor self healing abilities |
| 22:34.03 | Kirkburn | When did the First War end and the Second begin? |
| 22:34.14 | baggins | uh depends on the timelien :p |
| 22:34.24 | baggins | according to warcraft II 6 years apart |
| 22:34.27 | Kirkburn | Events? |
| 22:34.30 | baggins | according some of the later timelines 2 years apart |
| 22:34.33 | Kirkburn | So I can split the article :) |
| 22:34.42 | baggins | and its very tricky |
| 22:34.47 | baggins | what did you want to split? |
| 22:34.56 | Kirkburn | Just First and Second war stuff |
| 22:35.09 | baggins | all timelines agree that first war ended with the destruction of Stormwind |
| 22:35.25 | baggins | second war essentially began with the formatino of the Alliance |
| 22:35.40 | baggins | so the actual time in between is not that important |
| 22:36.05 | baggins | although its another case where they shaved off another additional 3 years off the timeline LOL |
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| 22:36.17 | baggins | along with the 15 lost from warcraft 1 timeline :p |
| 22:36.27 | Kirkburn | See the article now |
| 22:37.06 | Kirkburn | Images need better placement |
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| 22:37.47 | baggins | I'd be careful about specific dates, :p |
| 22:37.55 | baggins | thirteen years after the second war? |
| 22:37.58 | baggins | who's timeline? |
| 22:38.00 | baggins | LOL |
| 22:38.05 | Kirkburn | Oh, I don't care about that |
| 22:38.13 | baggins | Thrall's rise jumps around on pretty much every timeline :p |
| 22:38.13 | Kirkburn | I just want to split the history section sensibly |
| 22:38.35 | baggins | just saying kirkburn if you can replace it with a non-specific term |
| 22:38.53 | baggins | About a decade |
| 22:39.02 | baggins | or something |
| 22:39.17 | Sandwichman | Has Zarnks been banned? |
| 22:39.22 | Kirkburn | Oh, I see |
| 22:39.30 | baggins | nah we almost did |
| 22:40.08 | baggins | I think we got it into him this time, who knows for how long though, LOL |
| 22:40.42 | baggins | yep several years works well heh heh |
| 22:42.37 | baggins | but ya kirkburn you remember the time I did the math on the timelines? Thrall |
| 22:42.45 | Kirkburn | pcj, er, wtf with the removal of the boss template? |
| 22:42.54 | baggins | 's rise jumped aropund from like 6 years after the second war |
| 22:42.54 | pcj | it's not standardized |
| 22:43.01 | baggins | all the way up to like 20 in some :p |
| 22:43.09 | Kirkburn | So f**king what? |
| 22:43.18 | Kirkburn | You removed the ability to get to the pages! |
| 22:43.18 | baggins | which boss template? |
| 22:43.27 | Kirkburn | Or navigate between them! |
| 22:43.32 | baggins | the ugly one that sits on the right side of the screen? |
| 22:43.36 | Sandwichman | As you know that I love to bring old things up, what was reached in the Two-headded ogre brain thing? Should somthing be added to the main page? That WAS the point. |
| 22:43.44 | pcj | They just split up pages too much |
| 22:43.48 | baggins | and fugs up the infoboxes? |
| 22:43.50 | Kirkburn | Then merge then :/ |
| 22:43.51 | pcj | I'm gonna integrate them soon |
| 22:44.03 | Kirkburn | It had better be soon |
| 22:44.11 | baggins | I think boss templates should be horizontal and put at the bottom of the screen somewhere |
| 22:44.19 | baggins | so it can't mess the infoboxes up |
| 22:44.41 | Kirkburn | You have to realise if you make such a change, it prevents anyone from navigating to the important pages |
| 22:44.48 | Kirkburn | Lady Vashj is a MAJOR boss |
| 22:45.24 | Kirkburn | I'm not saying I disagree with the change, but ... c'mon :( |
| 22:45.53 | Kirkburn | baggins, actually we are talking about a horizontal template |
| 22:46.08 | Kirkburn | It was *cough* used on Onyxia, Rag, KT and Vashj |
| 22:48.26 | Kirkburn | Nooo, pcj! |
| 22:48.32 | Kirkburn | Don't put the loot on the lore page! |
| 22:48.40 | pcj | *sigh* |
| 22:48.42 | Kirkburn | Put it on the strategy page |
| 22:49.08 | Kirkburn | That is the split we have, lore and strategy articles |
| 22:49.45 | Sandwichman | You know, Flamestrike and Frostfathom do not drop... I think those may be the attunement awards. |
| 22:50.06 | Kirkburn | I'm pretty sure the pages should be: Lady Vashj and Lady Vashj (tactics) |
| 22:50.58 | Kirkburn | Yup, see Illidan for the example of how to set it up |
| 22:51.38 | Kirkburn | next time, please, please check other pages |
| 22:52.52 | pcj | Should quotes be on lore or strategy |
| 22:53.12 | Kirkburn | Stick them on tactics for now |
| 22:54.32 | Sandwichman | Fisker-, what is with the violance? |
| 22:55.08 | TecnoBrat | I like "Lore" and "Ingame" personally |
| 22:55.21 | TecnoBrat | Lore being .. lore .. and ingame being tactics, boss info, quotes from the game .. etc |
| 22:55.42 | TecnoBrat | maybe thats just me though |
| 22:57.12 | pcj | I think lore should be the disambig'd page and in-game should be the main, but that's just me |
| 22:57.57 | Fisker- | it's not violence Sandwichman :( |
| 22:58.03 | Boubouille | http://wow.warcry.com/news/view/75268 |
| 22:58.16 | Sandwichman | Then what it is? |
| 22:58.20 | Boubouille | The Bear (Loas): This area contains, you guessed it, a bunch of bears. At the end, you meet Loas, who is, a big evil giant bear. Some of those creatures actually are trolls who ride bears into battle. Good news, that bear is a new mount the patch introduces. |
| 22:58.21 | Boubouille | wtf ? |
| 22:58.24 | Boubouille | Loas ? :/ |
| 22:58.39 | Sandwichman | Voodoo gods |
| 22:58.56 | Boubouille | Yeah, but the bear isn't named loas :p |
| 22:59.09 | Boubouille | This area contains, you guessed it, a bunch of bears. At the end, you meet Loas, who is, a big evil giant bear. |
| 22:59.32 | Sandwichman | Oh, I see the error |
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| 22:59.32 | Sandwichman | A loa |
| 22:59.41 | bagginsww | hasic is a "neighbor" of hillsbrad and soutshore |
| 22:59.44 | Sandwichman | As you know that I love to bring old things up, what was reached in the Two-headded ogre brain thing? Should somthing be added to the main page? That WAS the point. |
| 23:00.16 | bagginsww | hmm? I plan to maybe split two-headed ogres |
| 23:00.28 | bagginsww | there is alot of info that can be added for them specifically |
| 23:00.31 | Fisker- | good idea bagginsww |
| 23:00.38 | Fisker- | those heads never were able to get along |
| 23:00.41 | bagginsww | LOL |
| 23:01.00 | bagginsww | but ya it seems sad that they are just a stub at the bottom of the main ogre page :p |
| 23:01.02 | Sandwichman | Split? Who said split? |
| 23:01.05 | bagginsww | when they are often treated as a sub-race |
| 23:01.10 | Sandwichman | NO! |
| 23:01.13 | bagginsww | sub/seperate race |
| 23:01.18 | bagginsww | literally they are |
| 23:01.18 | Sandwichman | You misunderstand |
| 23:01.27 | Sandwichman | What i am talking about |
| 23:01.51 | bagginsww | I know what you are talking about I can go into that aloot more when it becauses its own race page |
| 23:01.59 | Sandwichman | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Ogre#Not_twice_as_smart. This. |
| 23:02.00 | bagginsww | *becomes |
| 23:02.20 | bagginsww | ya, there is some talk about that subject in the rpg I"m pretty sure] |
| 23:02.29 | bagginsww | its one of the major things it goes into |
| 23:02.34 | pcj | ok should be fixed kirkburn :P |
| 23:02.36 | Sandwichman | Some ogres have two heads. Unfortunately two ogre heads are not better than one = the heads rarely get along with each other, and two-headed ogres are just as dumb as their one-headed brethren |
| 23:02.47 | bagginsww | oh wait I meant expand ogre mages not regular two headed ogres |
| 23:02.52 | Sandwichman | Not always. |
| 23:03.02 | Sandwichman | Ok. |
| 23:03.11 | Sandwichman | Did you read the discussion. |
| 23:03.19 | Sandwichman | ? |
| 23:06.05 | bagginsww | sandwich ya a few weeks ago |
| 23:06.11 | Sandwichman2448 | Ok. |
| 23:06.24 | bagginsww | and in hpg no two heads is not smarter as far as I know |
| 23:06.25 | Sandwichman2448 | What was reached? |
| 23:06.27 | bagginsww | they are as smart |
| 23:06.31 | bagginsww | as regular one headed |
| 23:06.42 | Sandwichman2448 | Do ogra'la quests? |
| 23:06.42 | bagginsww | two h eaded ogre mage is as smart as the rare one headed ogre mage |
| 23:06.48 | bagginsww | ya I've done those too |
| 23:06.53 | bagginsww | those have been made even smarter |
| 23:06.57 | bagginsww | cause of crystals |
| 23:07.06 | Sandwichman2448 | Because they have two brains. |
| 23:07.10 | Sandwichman2448 | also |
| 23:07.18 | Sandwichman2448 | They say that. |
| 23:07.19 | bagginsww | well all two headed have two brains its true |
| 23:07.45 | Sandwichman2448 | Duel core processers. |
| 23:08.01 | bagginsww | duel core isn't really smarter |
| 23:08.02 | bagginsww | just faster |
| 23:08.17 | Sandwichman2448 | I wasted money then |
| 23:08.34 | bagginsww | nah its the future |
| 23:08.36 | bagginsww | for gaming |
| 23:08.49 | bagginsww | or high end |
| 23:08.54 | bagginsww | graphic processing |
| 23:08.56 | Sandwichman2448 | Regular 'intellegent' brain > Two brains of an ogre. Two enhanced ogre brains > Smarter than one brain can ever be. |
| 23:10.12 | bagginsww | biggesting problem with ogre brains is they rarely agree |
| 23:10.20 | bagginsww | they argue between each other and never get things done |
| 23:10.26 | bagginsww | its like having two individuals on one body |
| 23:10.34 | Sandwichman2448 | What about the WCII ogre magi? |
| 23:10.40 | bagginsww | even they did too lol |
| 23:10.42 | Sandwichman2448 | They were way smarter. |
| 23:10.49 | bagginsww | they are smarter |
| 23:10.55 | bagginsww | because their brains were enchanced |
| 23:11.01 | bagginsww | but they argue amoongsts each other as well |
| 23:11.06 | Sandwichman2448 | Like in ogri'la? |
| 23:11.19 | bagginsww | ya but ogri'la ones are even smarter I"m pretty sure |
| 23:11.20 | Kaydeethree | meh, the ogri'la ogres are just high |
| 23:11.23 | bagginsww | smarter than ogre mages |
| 23:11.39 | bagginsww | they speak even more fluently |
| 23:11.52 | bagginsww | though I think their heads still argue lol |
| 23:12.00 | Sandwichman2448 | I'm getting at, if enhanced an agreeing, that are twice as smart as a one headded timg can ever be. |
| 23:12.26 | bagginsww | well except that they are still ike two seperate individuals |
| 23:12.44 | bagginsww | they don't communicate directly |
| 23:12.54 | bagginsww | one has to communicte to the other and then the other has to communicate |
| 23:13.06 | bagginsww | if one is thinking the other wouldn't know what hte other is thinking |
| 23:13.12 | bagginsww | its not bridges like a duel-core chip |
| 23:13.12 | Sandwichman2448 | They say something like 'your ONE head can not possibly comprehend the whatever'. |
| 23:13.26 | bagginsww | ya its weird sometimes they do seem to share conversations |
| 23:13.35 | bagginsww | l;ike one will start a sentence and the other finish |
| 23:13.38 | bagginsww | but it seems that is rare |
| 23:13.49 | Kaydeethree | but it's not like we can't do that either |
| 23:13.55 | Sandwichman2448 | twinz |
| 23:14.05 | Fisker- | give me drama |
| 23:14.11 | bagginsww | married couples |
| 23:14.38 | bagginsww | sometimes married couples get to know each other so much they can finish each others comments LOL |
| 23:14.59 | pingdashf | Like when my wife says "Go $&#*#...." I know her next word is "Yourself" ? |
| 23:15.09 | Sandwichman2448 | The ogre magi of WCII talked very fluently. |
| 23:15.22 | bagginsww | they still had silly comments though |
| 23:15.35 | bagginsww | like demented |
| 23:15.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Fart 'We did it' |
| 23:15.51 | bagginsww | kind of immature |
| 23:15.57 | Sandwichman2448 | But smart |
| 23:16.02 | bagginsww | still child like |
| 23:16.18 | bagginsww | their develpment was not to the level of say a human mage |
| 23:16.33 | bagginsww | smarter than the average ogre |
| 23:16.35 | Sandwichman2448 | I still think at least in ogri'la they can use both brains. |
| 23:16.35 | bagginsww | but not other races |
| 23:16.43 | Fisker- | gonna get some sleep |
| 23:16.49 | bagginsww | ogri'la is a special case too |
| 23:16.55 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 23:17.00 | Fisker- | the crystals are making them smarter |
| 23:17.05 | Fisker- | or whatever |
| 23:17.09 | Sandwichman2448 | Where they can use both brains. |
| 23:17.18 | Fisker- | SLEEPSTIEM |
| 23:18.45 | Fisker- | nice |
| 23:20.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Baggins? Do they have this power at least in Ogri'la? |
| 23:21.00 | bagginsww | not enough to know about ogril'la |
| 23:21.08 | bagginsww | maybe the rpg will explain more later |
| 23:21.44 | Sandwichman2448 | They hint at this there. |
| 23:22.34 | bagginsww | the main difference between a ogre mage and a non ogre mage is that heads get along better than non-ogre mages |
| 23:23.17 | Sandwichman2448 | And are smarter? |
| 23:23.58 | Sandwichman2448 | The brain sharing I will drop until more RPG things come out. |
| 23:25.00 | Sandwichman2448 | Fisker- creeps me out. |
| 23:26.31 | bagginsww | ya slightly smarter, smart enough to cast spells |
| 23:26.41 | bagginsww | just not up to human standards however |
| 23:26.49 | bagginsww | if we used humans as the base species |
| 23:27.36 | bagginsww | Some ogres have two heads. Unfortunately, |
| 23:27.36 | bagginsww | two ogre heads are not better than one — the |
| 23:27.37 | bagginsww | heads rarely get along with each other, and twoheaded |
| 23:27.37 | bagginsww | ogres are just as dumb as their one-headed |
| 23:27.37 | bagginsww | brethren. |
| 23:27.41 | bagginsww | *HPG, 26 |
| 23:28.01 | Sandwichman2448 | I liked that before... |
| 23:28.03 | bagginsww | there are some ogre mages that are exceptions of course |
| 23:28.05 | Sandwichman2448 | linked |
| 23:28.16 | bagginsww | some smarter than others |
| 23:28.48 | bagginsww | and I think we have seen regulr ogres that litterally genius as well |
| 23:28.53 | bagginsww | at least for an ogre LOL |
| 23:28.59 | bagginsww | prodigy |
| 23:29.22 | Sandwichman2448 | I can spell 'Thunk'... |
| 23:29.38 | bagginsww | It was said at one time ogres may have been as smart as orcs or smarter |
| 23:29.44 | bagginsww | that would make them human or near human |
| 23:29.52 | bagginsww | possibly smarer than humans |
| 23:29.58 | bagginsww | original ogres were all one heade |
| 23:30.01 | bagginsww | headed |
| 23:30.13 | bagginsww | two heads is a byproduct of warlock tinkering |
| 23:30.33 | bagginsww | but ogres became stupid as they were enslaved |
| 23:30.48 | Sandwichman2448 | In WCIII they hinted at maybe making ogres smarter, this idea was dropped for WoW. |
| 23:31.42 | Sandwichman2448 | The manual |
| 23:34.56 | *** join/#wowwiki Sandwichman (n=cyrillpi@77.143.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 23:35.09 | Sandwichman | Can I welcome people? |
| 23:35.41 | Sandwichman | No? Ok... |
| 23:36.59 | Sandwichman | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Captf&action=edit You do it. |
| 23:37.21 | Kirkburn | Sandwichman, yes, you can |
| 23:38.05 | Sandwichman | NEAT! |
| 23:38.24 | bagginsww | sandwhich I was referring to reference to history of ogres as told in HPG |
| 23:38.51 | Sandwichman | What? I know. |
| 23:39.46 | bagginsww | take care evyone I have to go |
| 23:40.08 | Sandwichman | Bye. |
| 23:41.49 | Sandwichman | I will never reveal any personal info. People (2 really) have tried to get some to hunt me down, or as they put it 'Becoming closer friends, a lot of people in the guild know eachother name age adress and phone number'. |
| 23:42.00 | Kirkburn | See ya bagginsww |
| 23:42.04 | Sandwichman | Remember that. |
| 23:42.19 | Kirkburn | I've seen you say that several times today |
| 23:42.30 | Sandwichman | So? |
| 23:42.42 | Sandwichman | What are you getting at? |
| 23:43.00 | Sandwichman | i have a right to be paranoid today. |
| 23:43.46 | Kirkburn | Why?? |
| 23:44.04 | Sandwichman | It is the US' slogan. |
| 23:44.14 | Sandwichman | Sorta. |
| 23:46.47 | Sandwichman | I said why before. How did you miss the hint? I'm loggin' orf now. |
| 23:47.42 | Sandwichman | mebbie |
| 23:48.29 | *** part/#wowwiki Sandwichman (n=cyrillpi@77.143.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 23:50.52 | Kirkburn | utterly mad |
| 23:54.42 | Kirkburn | And him :) |
| 23:58.19 | *** join/#wowwiki KillerDreaming (n=XKillerD@adsl-074-170-163-167.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:58.28 | KillerDreaming | Hey? |
| 23:59.40 | Kirkburn | Welcome! |
