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| 00:05.32 | Kirkburn | How different pcj? |
| 00:05.46 | pcj | mainly the green |
| 00:05.51 | pcj | it's ok tho |
| 00:06.12 | pcj | i don't really remember the exact hue anyway |
| 00:06.21 | Kirkburn | ooh, yeah, it is different |
| 00:07.10 | Kirkburn | Made it a bit lighter |
| 00:07.27 | Kirkburn | Wait, it was bold too, no? |
| 00:07.56 | pcj | Probably |
| 00:08.03 | pcj | Yeah |
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| 00:09.12 | Kirkburn | aha, I know what is up |
| 00:09.16 | Kirkburn | It wasn't green before! |
| 00:09.20 | Kirkburn | It was red >< |
| 00:09.45 | pcj | Hmm |
| 00:09.52 | pcj | Maybe |
| 00:10.06 | Gryphen | doesnt have to be the same.. |
| 00:10.18 | pcj | Yeah, as long as it stands out, it should be fine |
| 00:10.28 | Kirkburn | It was red ^^ |
| 00:10.29 | pcj | *and is readable |
| 00:10.33 | Kirkburn | Bolded |
| 00:11.45 | pcj | My vote is on chartreuse |
| 00:12.04 | Kirkburn | bleugh |
| 00:13.59 | pcj | I don't think that shade of green really stands out very well |
| 00:16.39 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, tidied http://www.wowwiki.com/Loa |
| 00:17.12 | Bagginsw | k |
| 00:17.41 | Bagginsw | I think Ezili needs a fact check |
| 00:18.04 | Kirkburn | Also, intro of http://www.wowwiki.com/Old_Gods is repetitititititive :P |
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| 00:19.57 | Bagginswow | for now I'm consolidating info for comparison and contrasting, I'll reduce it down as soon as I'm done |
| 00:20.05 | Kirkburn | kk |
| 00:20.23 | Kirkburn | Sky2042_, what's the {{main}} change about? |
| 00:20.27 | DuTempete | Woah, when did we change the naming format to: |
| 00:20.38 | DuTempete | [[Quest:A Noble Brew (1)]] ? |
| 00:20.38 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Noble_Brew_(1) |
| 00:20.46 | pcj | Hah |
| 00:21.01 | DuTempete | [[Quest:A Noble Brew]] is a disambig |
| 00:21.01 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Noble_Brew |
| 00:21.16 | DuTempete | Is that policy, now? |
| 00:22.10 | DuTempete | that's your and laurlybot's doing, pcj |
| 00:23.06 | DuTempete | policy is still first quest is w/o disamb in title |
| 00:23.17 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Village_pump#Quest_Naming_Policy might answer your question |
| 00:24.20 | Bagginswow | http://www.wowwiki.com/Old_Gods#The_Five |
| 00:24.55 | DuTempete | thanks, I missed that, pcj |
| 00:25.10 | Bagginswow | ok moved some of the info around |
| 00:25.19 | Bagginswow | expanded the history section |
| 00:29.38 | Sky2042_ | kirkburn: let's us use a different title to link if we need. let me dig for why. |
| 00:30.03 | Sky2042_ | ah, yes |
| 00:30.58 | Kirkburn | I thoguht as much |
| 00:31.01 | Sky2042_ | http://wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Mage&diff=811839&oldid=811750 |
| 00:31.03 | DuTempete | ok, pcj, I don't see a final consensus, there... |
| 00:31.16 | pcj | it's laurly's fault |
| 00:31.27 | Sky2042_ | could link to either if i needed to. |
| 00:33.02 | Kirkburn | If in doubt, blame the person who isn't here ;) |
| 00:33.10 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 00:33.40 | DuTempete | I do agree with what one person said about disambigging similarly named quests with the zone, though |
| 00:34.00 | DuTempete | i.e.: |
| 00:34.05 | DuTempete | [[Return to the Marsh]] |
| 00:34.06 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Return_to_the_Marsh |
| 00:34.20 | DuTempete | [[Return to the Marsh (Zangarmarsh)]] |
| 00:34.20 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Return_to_the_Marsh_(Zangarmarsh) |
| 00:34.58 | Taurmindo | <- = one person. :) |
| 00:35.10 | DuTempete | Think I should put it in discussion in the naming policy talk? |
| 00:35.39 | Taurmindo | aye. it makes a valid argument imo. i put it in the village pump when it was about due to laurlybot, but i didn't spread the word.. ;P |
| 00:35.43 | DuTempete | We should really come to a decision on that before allowing laurlybot to continue doing it this way... unless the bot can go back and fix them |
| 00:35.59 | Kirkburn | Sky ... http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Shattrath_City&curid=53462&diff=811893&oldid=760804 |
| 00:36.02 | DuTempete | but, still, we should decide |
| 00:36.02 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 00:36.16 | Kirkburn | <ref>, silly |
| 00:37.41 | Kirkburn | One will assume that you had a gun at your head to make that edit >_> |
| 00:39.20 | foxlit | KILL THE HEADER IMAGE! |
| 00:41.35 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 00:42.35 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_NOT#Content that may not be introduced in future patches |
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| 00:42.49 | foxlit | "Not a druid" image is funny! |
| 00:44.42 | Bagginsww | btw sky HPG hints that its Hakkar a possible old god or son of an old god that's behind the emerald nightmare |
| 00:44.52 | Bagginsww | which connects Eranikus to the whole thing |
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| 00:48.30 | Kirkburn | I will physically kick the next person who spells it "noteable" :P |
| 00:48.43 | pcj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.51 | Kirkburn | Oh dear god |
| 00:48.52 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?search=noteable&fulltext=Search |
| 00:49.01 | Kirkburn | THEY'RE ALL NOTEABLE |
| 00:49.30 | pcj | Fisker's bot imo |
| 00:50.10 | Kirkburn | Someone please fix :( |
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| 00:52.19 | Kirkburn | 98 pages with it |
| 00:53.51 | Kirkburn | pcj, I hope that last welcome template was ironic? |
| 00:54.14 | Chaoslux | What's wrong with "Noteable" ? |
| 00:54.15 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don't_template_the_regulars ^^ |
| 00:54.38 | pcj | "This is not Wikipedia" -[[User:Kirkburn]] |
| 00:54.43 | Kirkburn | Chaoslux, the problem is, it's spelt "notable" |
| 00:54.49 | Chaoslux | Oh |
| 00:55.17 | Bagginsw | I once read a theory that Elune was one of the Old Gods but one that decided to either stay out of the war, or assisted the Titans. heh |
| 00:55.30 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 00:55.48 | Bagginsw | lol ya |
| 00:55.52 | Kirkburn | One hopes that was pre-WotA |
| 00:55.59 | Chaoslux | Well that's a theory >.> |
| 00:56.13 | Kirkburn | Tyrande gets protected by Elune |
| 00:56.17 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 00:56.26 | Kirkburn | Ah, wait, a non-evil Old God? |
| 00:56.29 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 00:56.42 | Kirkburn | Well, I guess that's /possible/ ... |
| 00:56.42 | Bagginsw | well part of it has to do with therezane |
| 00:56.51 | Bagginsw | she's kinda benevolent |
| 00:56.56 | Bagginsw | she's worshiped by druids |
| 00:57.14 | Bagginsw | what if she was somehow connected to Elune? but was enslaved by ne of the other old gods? |
| 00:57.35 | Bagginsw | also therezane is connected to the "Earth Mother" |
| 00:57.43 | Bagginsw | apparently |
| 00:57.50 | Bagginsw | Elune is one of the eyes of the Earth Mother? |
| 00:57.57 | Bagginsw | in tauren legend |
| 00:58.03 | Kaydeethree | according to the tauren, ya |
| 00:58.19 | Bagginsw | anycase the the theory was pretty well thought out |
| 00:58.50 | Bagginsw | it might also explain references and connections between troll loas and old gods. |
| 00:59.14 | Bagginsw | like their being a bear loa, as well as two bear demigods, and its believed that furbolgs predated titans |
| 01:02.39 | Kaydeethree | whoa... the dead link color got changed |
| 01:03.34 | Kirkburn | It did?? |
| 01:03.43 | Kirkburn | oh lol |
| 01:03.57 | Kaydeethree | deeper red |
| 01:06.06 | Kirkburn | weird |
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| 01:11.56 | Kirkburn | Can't work out the red link thing |
| 01:12.02 | Kirkburn | Works in user CSS, but not main css |
| 01:16.24 | foxlit | user loaded after main |
| 01:17.02 | foxlit | so somewhere between the two, something ovrrides it |
| 01:18.02 | Kirkburn | Which makes little sense |
| 01:18.48 | Kirkburn | Afaik it should go Main.css > Common.css > Wowwiki.css > User css |
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| 01:22.12 | foxlit | I see |
| 01:22.32 | Kirkburn | Well, I think that's how it works anyway |
| 01:22.37 | foxlit | But I wonder why |
| 01:22.42 | Kirkburn | In any case, any other oddness spotted? |
| 01:22.43 | foxlit | There's another stylesheet |
| 01:22.51 | foxlit | text-align justify being where it shouldn't be |
| 01:23.05 | Kirkburn | What do you mean? |
| 01:23.42 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=-&action=raw&gen=css&maxage=18000&smaxage=0&ts=20070814004025 |
| 01:24.42 | DuTempete | ok, discussion entered in: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Policy/Naming#Quest_names.2C_chains |
| 01:25.19 | Kirkburn | foxlit, where's that?! |
| 01:25.27 | foxlit | source of every page |
| 01:25.41 | Kirkburn | Weird ... |
| 01:27.17 | foxlit | $s .= $this->reallyDoGetUserStyles(); |
| 01:27.39 | foxlit | Next line could've been $this->noI'mSeriousReallyDoGetUserStylesNow(YesPlease); |
| 01:30.34 | Kirkburn | Notified skin guy |
| 01:31.02 | foxlit | in fact, title doesn't even matter |
| 01:31.08 | foxlit | I wonder where the heck it's pulling this from |
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| 01:33.57 | foxlit | oh wow |
| 01:34.01 | foxlit | It's hardcoded into PHP |
| 01:34.45 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 01:37.27 | foxlit | That stylesheet is used to convert your settings in the My Preferences tab to CSS |
| 01:37.39 | foxlit | So if you chose to justify paragraphs, it'll contain that line |
| 01:37.48 | foxlit | Colors are moronic |
| 01:38.52 | Kirkburn | weird |
| 01:38.57 | foxlit | If you've chosen to colorize broken links, it'll add code to color the links into a specific color |
| 01:39.08 | foxlit | Which is hardcoded into the skin file |
| 01:39.21 | Kirkburn | I'm going to copy this into an email |
| 01:40.20 | Kirkburn | done |
| 01:40.39 | foxlit | Kirkburn: you can still override it from wowwiki.css, anyway |
| 01:41.40 | Kirkburn | Yes, not much help to /everyone else/ =) |
| 01:41.54 | foxlit | Sure it is |
| 01:42.06 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AWowwiki.css&diff=812445&oldid=812416 |
| 01:42.47 | Kirkburn | And for IE? |
| 01:42.55 | foxlit | IE respects important |
| 01:43.04 | Kirkburn | Goddamn you |
| 01:44.18 | Kirkburn | Now I have to send /another/ email to sya it's fixed |
| 01:44.35 | foxlit | Mwhahaha, I'm killing the virtual rainforests! |
| 01:45.02 | foxlit | I'm guessing the people you have to whine at to fix it locally for wowwiki aren't the people developing mediawiki, so it's a bit of a pity |
| 01:45.41 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 01:45.43 | Kirkburn | I'm off home |
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| 03:05.04 | Kirkburn | It be far too quiet here |
| 03:07.26 | Abyissviper | RAWR |
| 03:07.35 | Abyissviper | now its not lol |
| 03:09.25 | Kirkburn | hehe |
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| 03:27.26 | Kirkburn | Ah, this page has gems every day - http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Best_of_Conservapedia |
| 03:29.50 | Kirkburn | TK is a humourously insane op |
| 03:36.26 | Kirkburn | omgwtfbbq - http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:Liberal_Style |
| 03:36.37 | Kirkburn | Point number 11 is utterly utterly awesome |
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| 04:17.15 | Kirkburn | Gotta love templates - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sillyland |
| 04:22.13 | DuTempete | you have too much free time, Kirk |
| 04:23.37 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 04:23.46 | Kirkburn | Wikis are my life |
| 04:24.17 | DuTempete | wow... you need to stop linking conservapedia in here, Kirk. |
| 04:24.44 | Bleeter | please, yes |
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| 04:25.24 | Kirkburn | But it's so damn funny |
| 04:25.25 | Bleeter | it's rotting my brain... my brain was bad enough to start with, University's doing enough extra damage to me already, don't need Kirkburn speeding things along |
| 04:26.05 | DuTempete | ditto |
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| 04:26.38 | Bleeter | I mean, look at what all that conservapedia linking by Kirkburn did to Bagginsww's brain |
| 04:26.44 | DuTempete | That article reminds me of the idiot line |
| 04:26.46 | Bleeter | hate for anyone else to end up like that |
| 04:26.53 | Bagginsww | my brain hurts |
| 04:26.57 | DuTempete | aye, poor bagginsww |
| 04:27.04 | Kirkburn | Bleeter, pout toi - http://www.zen77094.zen.co.uk/vintagebroadcasting/audio/322.mp3 |
| 04:27.14 | Kirkburn | (I can't listen to it, but I'm pretty sure it's the right one) |
| 04:27.18 | Bagginsww | try doing a calculus placement test with little to no calculus knowledge :p |
| 04:27.19 | Bagginsww | painful torture |
| 04:27.31 | Kirkburn | >_> |
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| 04:28.02 | DuTempete | god I can't spell in french... why is it just for him? =P |
| 04:28.23 | DuTempete | por quoi pout soi? is that right? |
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| 04:28.56 | DuTempete | egads, baggins, I'm sorry :( |
| 04:29.30 | Bagginsw | I have to do the placement for calculus soon. did chem today. |
| 04:30.01 | DuTempete | oh, that's waaaaay to bubbly for me, Kirkburn... |
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| 04:30.15 | Bagginsw | granted I wouldn't want to be placed at the top level for chemistry LOL |
| 04:30.27 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 04:30.33 | Bagginsw | but it would be so much easier if I said I odn't know a thing just give me introduction LOL |
| 04:30.57 | DuTempete | hobart has radio 7ho... |
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| 04:31.53 | Bleeter | Kirkburn: wtf did that audio come from? rofl |
| 04:32.14 | Bleeter | god, 7H) |
| 04:32.17 | Bleeter | *7H0 |
| 04:34.21 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 04:34.47 | Bagginswow | so ya I'm now in a hurricane warning zone LOL |
| 04:34.48 | Bleeter | with an add like that, how could Blizz resist holding an Oceanic BlizzCon down my way, eh? |
| 04:35.36 | Kirkburn | London's Capital FM used to broadcast from there every summer |
| 04:35.49 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, yay |
| 04:39.25 | Kirkburn | brb |
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| 04:53.50 | Sky2042_ | kirkburn: when did you poke me? :( |
| 04:54.19 | Kirkburn_ | When I made a joke about being smoooth |
| 04:54.25 | Kirkburn_ | Twas several hours ago |
| 04:54.32 | Sky2042_ | i know |
| 04:54.41 | Sky2042_ | work ftw! |
| 04:54.42 | Kirkburn_ | You were the only one likely to 'get it' :P |
| 04:55.04 | Sky2042 | in wowwiki or wowhead? |
| 04:55.18 | Kirkburn_ | er |
| 04:55.25 | Kirkburn_ | wowhead |
| 04:55.43 | Kirkburn_ | Skosiris, was talking about the titles |
| 04:56.34 | Kirkburn_ | You were the only likely to get it despite it being a public conversation, but anyhoo |
| 04:56.43 | Kirkburn_ | I need to move this PC into my room |
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| 04:58.39 | Kirkburn_ | bbiab |
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| 05:27.39 | DuTempete | [[WoWWiki talk:Policy/Naming#Quest names, chains]] |
| 05:27.40 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Policy/Naming#Quest_names,_chains |
| 05:27.41 | DuTempete | go there. |
| 05:28.19 | Kirkburn | Where Kirkburn is commanded, Kirkburn shalt procede |
| 05:28.46 | Sky2042 | sweet |
| 05:28.50 | Sky2042 | fuckin awesome |
| 05:28.57 | Sky2042 | [[User:Kirkburn]] |
| 05:28.57 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn |
| 05:30.06 | Sky2042 | [[WoWWiki:Namespaces]] |
| 05:30.06 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Namespaces |
| 05:34.15 | Sky2042 | btw, kirkburn, remember |
| 05:34.21 | Sky2042 | [[User:Punchline]] |
| 05:34.22 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Punchline |
| 05:34.43 | Kirkburn | ??? |
| 05:35.04 | Sky2042 | remember that issue, or was that adys that dealt with him? |
| 05:35.18 | Adys | i remember that yes |
| 05:35.21 | Adys | the wowradio guy |
| 05:35.25 | Adys | but later plx |
| 05:39.27 | Bagginswow | our whole building just shook... wind or earthquake... |
| 05:39.40 | Bagginswow | not sure which |
| 05:39.55 | Kirkburn | oooooh |
| 05:41.43 | Bagginswow | creepy :p |
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| 05:56.18 | Bleeter | I wanna make a new Wiki page... 'Wartcraft: A game inspired by Warcraft but riddled with virii' |
| 05:56.24 | Sky2042 | not many eqs in the hawaii area felt by humans |
| 05:56.39 | Sky2042 | @baggins |
| 05:56.44 | Bleeter | quack |
| 05:56.53 | Kirkburn | baa |
| 06:00.41 | Bagginswow | it was an earth quake |
| 06:00.49 | Bagginswow | 5. something |
| 06:01.06 | Bagginswow | from the volcano |
| 06:01.14 | Bagginswow | no tsuenami danger |
| 06:02.08 | Sky2042 | if there wasn't an underwater avalanche / some sort of movement by the plates, of course not. :P as hawaii has no way of having the plates move... :P |
| 06:02.08 | Bagginswow | and now the hurricane is coming |
| 06:02.12 | Sky2042 | have fun! |
| 06:02.17 | Bagginswow | woohoo |
| 06:02.26 | Sky2042 | i have a friend there now too. going to UH Manoa |
| 06:02.31 | Bagginswow | I was just quoting the news LOL |
| 06:02.32 | Sky2042 | as a freshman this year |
| 06:03.00 | Bagginswow | actually there are volcanic tsuenamis |
| 06:03.06 | Bagginswow | doesn't require a plate |
| 06:03.11 | Bagginswow | just seismic activity |
| 06:03.18 | Sky2042 | yeah, but something has to /move/ |
| 06:03.21 | Bagginswow | doubt it would create a big one though |
| 06:03.26 | Bagginswow | at this distance |
| 06:03.31 | Bagginswow | I mean its only 28 miles away |
| 06:03.32 | Sky2042 | like, the water has to be displaced in some way. |
| 06:03.51 | Sky2042 | which is usually caused by uprift / underwater avalanches. |
| 06:03.57 | Bagginswow | geology is one of my majors, ;) |
| 06:03.58 | Sky2042 | if neither of those are present, you're fine. |
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| 06:07.11 | Sky2042 | oh yeah, btw, kirkburn: at that <ref> comment, it was because i don't have a {{ref game}} set up yet |
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| 06:10.21 | Sky2042 | bagginsww: we have a reason for why they have a hyjal instance in CoT now. |
| 06:10.47 | Bagginsww | huh? |
| 06:10.59 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:11.26 | Sky2042 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965509103&sid=1&pageNo=3#58 |
| 06:12.31 | Bagginsww | its more or less one of those brann bronzebeard time portal accidents, than anything having to do with "saving the world" from a race trying to change history. |
| 06:12.59 | Kirkburn | "So...why did the Bronze Dragonflight let us in?" ... shits and giggles |
| 06:13.23 | Sky2042 | yeah |
| 06:13.45 | Bagginsww | lol |
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| 06:17.00 | Bagginsw | well it begs the question how other adventures got in before the "gate" was officially opned, ;) |
| 06:17.50 | Bagginsw | like brann and otehrs |
| 06:19.57 | Kirkburn | Brann ... Hyjal!? |
| 06:23.03 | Bleeter | Bagginsw: what's the story with Lylandor (WSG battlemaster in Shattrath... is either very frustrated heterosexual, or a TG)? |
| 06:23.17 | Bagginsw | huh no idea |
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| 06:30.38 | Kirkburn | Wizards did it. |
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| 07:00.48 | Thrae | !explicit |
| 07:00.49 | ThraeBot | Thrae: OK, I will now only respond to commands in this channel when addressed by ThraeBot: <command>. Note the ! is not needed. |
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| 07:04.28 | Kirkburn | I always imagine the answer should be "Ok, I am now in adults-only mode. Children, please leave the channel" |
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| 07:06.14 | DuTempete | Yeah, that's along my own line of thought on that... |
| 07:07.57 | Kirkburn | Why does that not shock me |
| 07:08.00 | Kirkburn | ^^ |
| 07:08.28 | DuTempete | cuz we're pervs of a feather. =P |
| 07:09.32 | Kirkburn | haha |
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| 07:23.06 | Kirkburn | Bedtime! |
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| 07:24.22 | DuTempete | noooo |
| 07:24.44 | Kirkburn | noooo |
| 07:25.46 | DuTempete | I don't suppose either you or Adys frequent MSN? |
| 07:26.04 | Adys | he's never online on msn |
| 07:26.10 | DuTempete | loser. |
| 07:26.43 | DuTempete | Sometimes I just don't feel like watching the chat fly by in IRC, s'why I ask. |
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| 07:28.13 | DuTempete | night night peeps |
| 07:28.55 | Kirkburn | I should get on MSN more |
| 07:29.01 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 07:29.55 | Kirkburn | Nighty night |
| 07:32.03 | Skosiris | night! |
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| 07:35.00 | Sky2042 | that's interesting |
| 07:35.12 | Sky2042 | some of the special pages can be transcluded |
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| 10:10.13 | ws_ | hey |
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| 11:55.53 | Taurmindo | anyone know if hunters can feed their pet in arenas? |
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| 12:03.42 | tetsuo86 | yes, they can...IM pretty sure |
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| 12:38.48 | ws_ | hmm, I think there's a small bug on http://www.wowwiki.com/Arathi_Basin |
| 12:39.51 | ws_ | no, let me check once again |
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| 12:40.49 | Mytob | lo ppl |
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| 12:41.36 | Mytob | n e 1 no how i can ad kokr to the patch mirror page? |
| 12:42.41 | pcj | very carefully |
| 12:43.18 | Mytob | had a look but cant find the place to add it |
| 12:43.47 | Mytob | is it under the main edit parts for the patch mirrors or some where else on site site? |
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| 12:50.20 | pcj | no |
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| 13:21.11 | pcj | hmm silverside was a bit odd |
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| 13:47.39 | Kerim | hi all |
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| 15:24.50 | Parlabane | hello |
| 15:25.02 | Kelethar | hey! |
| 15:25.27 | pcj | sup |
| 15:25.50 | Parlabane | nothing much |
| 15:25.56 | Parlabane | you? |
| 15:26.12 | Parlabane | need to just say the wiki is phenomenal |
| 15:26.14 | pcj | same |
| 15:26.19 | Parlabane | and thank you for it |
| 15:26.21 | pcj | yw |
| 15:28.17 | Kelethar | man, all my buddies are switching to guild wars :( |
| 15:28.31 | Parlabane | :( |
| 15:28.34 | Parlabane | i have that |
| 15:28.41 | Parlabane | but it ain't as good as wow |
| 15:28.50 | Kelethar | no it really isn't |
| 15:28.51 | Parlabane | well not before expansion anyway |
| 15:29.05 | Parlabane | don't know how GW is after the 2 expansions |
| 15:29.10 | Kelethar | yeah, i miss the ability to you know... jump |
| 15:29.44 | Parlabane | not justthat but i thought it was crap one had to go to village to pick people up in order to quest with the, |
| 15:29.47 | Parlabane | *them |
| 15:29.55 | Parlabane | that was the most useless thing |
| 15:30.18 | Kelethar | yeah |
| 15:30.18 | Parlabane | why is the world not just one world like warcraft |
| 15:30.26 | Kelethar | haha |
| 15:30.32 | Kelethar | real world lag would suck |
| 15:33.35 | Parlabane | :) |
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| 16:46.25 | Parlabane | so any tips and tricks troll wise ? |
| 16:48.59 | Adys_ | Anyone worked with open office's calc before here? |
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| 17:03.20 | Parlabane | Adys_: yes a little |
| 17:04.26 | Kaso | i tried to use calc, then released all the forumlea/macroing i knew from excel doing work so i gave up |
| 17:11.19 | Fisker- | ho hi Adys_ |
| 17:11.21 | Fisker- | oh* |
| 17:11.33 | Adys_ | lo fisker |
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| 17:17.21 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=469367127&postId=4685253601&sid=1#47 |
| 17:17.26 | Fisker- | wonder if i'm gonna get B& fori t |
| 17:17.27 | Fisker- | for it |
| 17:26.46 | laurly | ping foxlit. http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:User:Pcj:Foxbot_queue <--- foxbot please |
| 17:26.56 | pcj | kek |
| 17:34.11 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/the-biggest-bargain-in-the-ah/ |
| 17:45.47 | Kaydeethree | any curse admins alive? |
| 17:46.26 | Abyissviper | im addicted to modding WoW x.x |
| 17:46.29 | pcj | no, they all died in the recent plague |
| 17:46.39 | Abyissviper | ive got 10 unofficial mods for it |
| 17:46.42 | Abyissviper | x.x |
| 17:46.52 | pcj | Laurly! http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Quest: |
| 17:47.24 | Abyissviper | wats that ._. |
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| 17:47.36 | Kaso | Abyissviper 10 ? that isnt addicted trust me |
| 17:47.36 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ |
| 17:47.42 | laurly | pcj whats that? |
| 17:47.52 | Kaso | I got more than 10 self-written UI mods i think |
| 17:47.53 | pcj | your bot isn't completing the quest names in its links |
| 17:48.15 | Abyissviper | im always lookin for mods for enchanting, tailoring, questing, dungeons, and warlock |
| 17:48.29 | Abyissviper | maybe others |
| 17:48.30 | laurly | ? |
| 17:48.39 | laurly | those are items in the quests |
| 17:48.58 | Kaydeethree | ya, but hover over the link to the quest that said item is for |
| 17:49.37 | Abyissviper | bbl, gotta see if these 3 new mods i got are compatable with my WoW after the new patch x_x |
| 17:49.40 | pcj | if foxbot gets in here should be easy to fix |
| 17:49.43 | laurly | pcj those are items attached to quests my bots just making dummy items. foxbot can fix it. but i will find out why its not makeing the quest names right. |
| 17:50.08 | laurly | yeah item creation in laurlybot isnt even at alpha stage its at major buggy and messedup stage :) |
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| 17:50.31 | laurly | feed them all to foxbot and i will look at it tomrrow. |
| 17:50.53 | pcj | ok |
| 17:51.31 | laurly_raid | but she did a lot of the quests today if you find any bugs just retag the page i fixed a bunch today. |
| 17:51.33 | Abyissviper | FUCK!!!!!!!!! lETHONS gONE!!!!!! |
| 17:51.50 | Abyissviper | ITS OFF THE REALM LIST!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 17:51.54 | Abyissviper | O_O |
| 17:52.03 | Kaso | Calm down |
| 17:52.04 | Kaydeethree | server maintenence? |
| 17:52.09 | Kaso | You're clearly new to wow arent you |
| 17:52.10 | foxlit | You'll never see it again. Ever. |
| 17:52.25 | Abyissviper | not on the maintenence list either T-T |
| 17:52.33 | foxlit | And all your characters are reset to level 1 paladins. |
| 17:52.33 | Kaydeethree | then check the realm status forum |
| 17:52.47 | laurly_raid | beets lvl 1 hunters foxlit |
| 17:53.01 | foxlit | dunno, I've never seen a paladin bot |
| 17:53.07 | Kaydeethree | or the list at: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 17:53.13 | Kaydeethree | note that a bunch of realms are still offline |
| 17:53.23 | Kaydeethree | it is tuesday, after all |
| 17:53.28 | laurly_raid | the reason that you can bot hunters i rest my case |
| 17:53.47 | pcj | Yay |
| 17:53.49 | pcj | !sup |
| 17:53.49 | Foxbot | There are currently 54 queued operations. |
| 17:55.15 | laurly_raid | got a weird thing i noticed last night at lurker why didnt the fire elemental spawned by a shammy get taken out by the spout? |
| 17:55.42 | Abyissviper | all the servers i had over lvl 15 people on are gone... |
| 17:55.53 | Abyissviper | not on maint. list or realm list ... |
| 17:55.53 | pcj | nub |
| 17:56.10 | pcj | what is that, like 2 servers? |
| 17:56.11 | laurly_raid | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965506928&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 17:56.35 | Kaydeethree | then go to the link I sent you to. a bunch of realms are still in tuesday maint. mode |
| 17:56.35 | laurly_raid | you in the US considered they are patching? |
| 17:57.44 | Abyissviper | i just hope that they moved all my lethon guys to a diff server T_T |
| 17:57.55 | pcj | probably a EU server |
| 17:58.04 | Kaydeethree | ...lethon will be back as soon as they finish maint. on it |
| 17:58.15 | Kaydeethree | this happens every tuesday |
| 17:59.14 | Abyissviper | its not on the maint list anywhere though |
| 17:59.32 | Kaydeethree | but it is showing down on http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 17:59.39 | Kaydeethree | so it'll be back up in a bit, fear not |
| 18:00.53 | Abyissviper | oh thank god. its back up |
| 18:00.58 | Kaydeethree | see? |
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| 18:01.02 | Abyissviper | all my guys are there too |
| 18:01.10 | Kaydeethree | as they always will be |
| 18:01.18 | Abyissviper | bbl then |
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| 18:02.42 | Kaydeethree | oof. queue on the ptr. |
| 18:03.09 | Malgayne | What a nice young man. |
| 18:03.53 | Kelethar | so patient |
| 18:04.35 | Kaydeethree | you get used to having people panicing for no good reason on irc and the forums |
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| 18:34.02 | pcj | sup nub |
| 18:35.39 | Kirkburn | morning |
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| 18:42.55 | laurly_raid | kirk servers are awsom bot ran like a dream today ....................<3 |
| 18:43.36 | Sky2042 | zomg foxbot |
| 18:47.38 | *** kick/#wowwiki [TecnoBrat!i=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-83-61.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (Adys) |
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| 18:47.54 | Dotted | ADMIN ABUSE |
| 18:48.06 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Dotted!i=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-83-61.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (Adys) |
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| 18:48.24 | Sky2042 | its alright to hapen in this channel |
| 18:48.34 | pcj | :| http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Sep11:%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8 |
| 18:49.13 | laurly_raid | ? |
| 18:49.23 | Adys | pcj: we got that since a while |
| 18:49.38 | pcj | :( |
| 18:49.55 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Help:%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%EF%BF%BD?%EF%BF%BD%E7%B7%A8%E9%9B%86&action=delete |
| 18:49.59 | Adys | The requested page title was invalid, empty, or an incorrectly linked inter-language or inter-wiki title. It may contain one or more characters which cannot be used in titles. |
| 18:50.00 | Adys | Return to Main Page. |
| 18:50.09 | TecnoBrat | haha I expected that :P |
| 18:54.27 | Bagginsw | You know I was just noticing the wrath template actually exists on material that isn't exclusive to wrath LOL |
| 18:54.51 | Bagginsw | I mean howling Fjord has been around since warcraft III, heh. |
| 18:55.24 | Bagginsw | course alot of the material was in the RPG before it was in wrath :p |
| 18:56.42 | Kaso | {{Wotlk-section}} is prob more sutable then! :eng101: |
| 18:56.43 | [NewsBot] | Kaso meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Wotlk-section |
| 18:57.04 | pcj | gosh http://www.wowwiki.com/List_of_Repair_NPCs is SO helpful |
| 18:57.25 | laurly_raid | LOL |
| 18:57.40 | Dotted | ahaha' |
| 18:57.43 | Kaso | I totally did not [NewsBot] |
| 18:58.17 | Dotted | yes yiou did |
| 18:58.20 | Dotted | *you |
| 18:58.31 | Kaso | bossy :< |
| 18:58.46 | Dotted | [[Kaso meant to say that]] |
| 18:58.47 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Kaso_meant_to_say_that |
| 18:58.57 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 18:59.10 | Sky2042 | Lol dotted |
| 18:59.11 | pcj | [[Help:%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%EF%BF%BD?%EF%BF%BD%E7%B7%A8%E9%9B%86]] |
| 18:59.14 | Sky2042 | excuse me, lol pcj |
| 18:59.18 | pcj | newsbot is broken |
| 18:59.18 | Sky2042 | LOL |
| 18:59.26 | Bagginsw | ya kaso |
| 18:59.27 | Dotted | hardly |
| 18:59.44 | Thrae | I have a RSS module for ThraeBot, I just haven't used it |
| 18:59.53 | Dotted | god |
| 18:59.55 | Gryphen | yes? |
| 18:59.57 | Dotted | no need for more spam |
| 19:00.23 | Thrae | I'm not going to enable a RSS module with another RSS bot in the same channel, hence why I'm not using it |
| 19:00.28 | Bagginsw | I don't know why people keep on calling the map on wrath of the lich king website an "alpha" map when it has azuremyst isles, and the new quel-thalas on it, LOL |
| 19:00.34 | Bagginsw | those were on no alpha maps ;) |
| 19:00.44 | pcj | [[Quest:Arathi Basin Resources!]] should be fun for laurlybot |
| 19:00.45 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Arathi_Basin_Resources! |
| 19:01.01 | Dotted | Bagginsw kalimdor and EK however are alpha maps |
| 19:01.19 | Bagginsw | huh? |
| 19:02.08 | Dotted | take the alpha map, put on azuremyst, quelthalas and northrend |
| 19:02.10 | Dotted | tada |
| 19:02.33 | Sky2042 | note how silithus appears bagginsww |
| 19:02.36 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 19:02.42 | laurly_raid | new ram should come soon i should be able to run the bot and raid then |
| 19:02.48 | Bagginsw | well its not an alpha map with those additions though, it becomes a "new map" |
| 19:03.08 | Sky2042 | it's just an alpha map photoshopped :| |
| 19:03.13 | Dotted | kalimdor and EK are still alpha |
| 19:03.18 | Dotted | eod |
| 19:03.52 | Bagginsw | the problem is if you just state its "alpha" you are being misleading |
| 19:04.05 | Bagginsw | because no alpha map looked exactly like that |
| 19:04.11 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/build-shop-warlock-41/ |
| 19:04.25 | Kelethar | you could just get a "shopped" image from 4chan and stick that next to it |
| 19:04.31 | Bagginsw | sky's "photoshopped alpha map" is more correct |
| 19:05.04 | Sky2042 | buut then, it isn't new ;) |
| 19:05.18 | Sky2042 | lol4chan |
| 19:05.22 | Sky2042 | ~fisker- |
| 19:05.23 | infobot | fisker- is probably DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER, or a linux hater |
| 19:06.00 | Bagginsw | naw even a photoshopped picture is "new" |
| 19:06.08 | Bagginsw | newer than the older oen |
| 19:06.12 | Dotted | stfu |
| 19:06.37 | Dotted | the source material is alpha eod |
| 19:06.42 | *** part/#wowwiki Kaos (n=Kaos@vir78-1-82-230-45-137.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:06.49 | Kelethar | no eod please |
| 19:06.59 | Kelethar | i need more chatting |
| 19:07.03 | Kelethar | to make the time go by |
| 19:07.33 | Sky2042 | what is eod? /me is confuzzled. |
| 19:07.41 | Kelethar | end of discussion i think |
| 19:07.57 | Kelethar | or eve of destruction if you're looking for battlefield 2 mods |
| 19:08.06 | Bagginsw | still I think the 2006 map is more interesting |
| 19:08.13 | Sky2042 | lol kelethar |
| 19:08.29 | Kirkburn | Thoughts? http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3 |
| 19:08.30 | Bagginsw | the one that readded the two islands |
| 19:09.06 | Kirkburn | The idea for the adbox ... ad when ad it up, community focus when no ad |
| 19:09.29 | Kirkburn | Community focus starting off with a spotlight on PlayXpert |
| 19:09.33 | Kaso | Kirkburn, that FA picture looks crap |
| 19:09.42 | Sky2042 | PlayXpert |
| 19:09.44 | Kirkburn | Then submit some new ones! |
| 19:09.45 | Sky2042 | wtf? |
| 19:10.02 | Kirkburn | PlayXpert have a partnership thing going on with Wikia |
| 19:10.20 | Kirkburn | Basically a browser overlay prog for games |
| 19:10.32 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki will be one of the main widgets |
| 19:10.39 | Dotted | neato |
| 19:10.54 | Sky2042 | oh that |
| 19:11.07 | Kirkburn | Most screenshots so far have showed us ... thus me needing to get this sorted :) |
| 19:11.24 | Kirkburn | Some point today I need to write the article on http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page/Adbox |
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| 19:12.24 | Adys|sleep | Kirkburn: yank the blizzcon stuff |
| 19:12.30 | Adys|sleep | off to bed for a couple hours bbl |
| 19:13.36 | Kirkburn | I have yanked it, nub |
| 19:13.46 | Kirkburn | Not from the current MP, obviously |
| 19:14.33 | Kirkburn | I have gone from using FF2, to FF1.5, now to FF1 :/ |
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| 19:15.35 | Fisker- | It's Firefox |
| 19:15.37 | Fisker- | or Fx |
| 19:19.14 | Kirkburn | I'm now on Fedora Core 4, too >< |
| 19:20.53 | Kelethar | uggh |
| 19:21.06 | Kelethar | i'm using elinks, but at least it's on FC7 |
| 19:28.49 | Kirkburn | 82 sections on the VP :D |
| 19:34.39 | Kirkburn | And another archive :D |
| 19:37.16 | Kaydeethree | fc4. geez. time for an update |
| 19:43.12 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 19:49.11 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/a-druid-with-122k-health-she-must-eat-her-wheaties/ |
| 19:49.23 | laurly_raid | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Villain_%28Misha_US%29 <--- yuck |
| 20:01.26 | Fisker- | My life for aiur |
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| 20:16.12 | Kirkburn | Well this is just awesome - http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Pxp_logo_upperleft.png |
| 20:17.02 | Kaso | cept the alpha is crappy on our grey bg |
| 20:17.55 | Kirkburn | Sarcasm detector broken today, eh? :P |
| 20:19.14 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/happy-birthday-cms/ |
| 20:20.18 | Kaso | oh |
| 20:20.20 | Kaso | clearly it is |
| 20:20.28 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 20:24.05 | Fisker- | construct additional pylons |
| 20:25.25 | Zurr | sure you could |
| 20:25.35 | Zurr | they made one for chess |
| 20:25.40 | laurly_raid | 20 min to recover from wipes im boord to death.. |
| 20:25.46 | laurly_raid | EQ had jems |
| 20:26.30 | laurly_raid | wow tetris with gnome heads? |
| 20:29.19 | DuTempete | instead of colored squares, use different colored hair? |
| 20:29.37 | laurly_raid | hehe |
| 20:29.50 | DuTempete | btw, morning everyone. |
| 20:29.59 | laurly_raid | night? |
| 20:30.11 | DuTempete | I just woke up :) |
| 20:31.26 | DuTempete | So, I can't help but feeling giddy that I hit 500 contr last week =P |
| 20:32.07 | DuTempete | so 1337 |
| 20:37.16 | laurly_raid | grats |
| 20:38.09 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, I archived a comment you made earlier on the VP :( |
| 20:38.17 | Kirkburn | And congrats :) |
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| 20:39.35 | Kirkburn | omg, omg, http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3 |
| 20:41.30 | winkiller | gratz DuTempete |
| 20:41.35 | winkiller | I am at 460 or so :/ |
| 20:42.33 | winkiller | WTF url? http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King |
| 20:42.42 | winkiller | why with WoW: |
| 20:44.00 | Zurr | what? |
| 20:45.15 | DuTempete | yeah, Kirkburn, the quest naming policy one |
| 20:45.24 | DuTempete | thanks, Winkiller |
| 20:49.11 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/to-gank-or-not-to-gank-that-is-the-question/ |
| 20:49.57 | DuTempete | so, Kirkburn, now that we have all these sponsors, can we finally get rid of the google ads? Or is it still not covering the bills? |
| 20:53.08 | DuTempete | btw, that looks nice, I like how both the featured article and sponsors boxes are visible |
| 20:54.40 | DuTempete | Who puts the 500 club images on user pages? |
| 20:54.47 | pcj | users |
| 20:55.01 | Dotted | i'd have a hard time paying for advertising on wowwiki if my ad was to be at that location tbh |
| 20:55.32 | DuTempete | bleh, I'm not going to put it up myself :( |
| 20:56.08 | DuTempete | Dotted, we've had sponsors pay for space in worse places, already. |
| 20:56.29 | Dotted | nevermind then |
| 20:56.54 | DuTempete | Adys! |
| 20:57.03 | Adys | rawr |
| 20:57.07 | DuTempete | morning, babe ;) |
| 20:57.08 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 20:57.23 | Adys | morning |
| 20:57.34 | Malgayne | Does Gryphen have a macro that does that? |
| 20:57.35 | Zurr | Dutempete, don't look at your user page. |
| 20:57.48 | Adys | Malgayne: script |
| 20:57.50 | DuTempete | Uhh, why not? |
| 20:58.12 | Malgayne | was wondering |
| 20:58.24 | Zurr | it looks kinda ugly with that star there |
| 20:58.40 | DuTempete | yeah, it does |
| 20:58.46 | DuTempete | thanks, Zurr, lol |
| 20:59.34 | Zurr | [16:57] * DuTempete huggles Gryphen. |
| 20:59.35 | Zurr | [16:57] <Malgayne> Does Gryphen have a macro that do |
| 20:59.38 | Zurr | [16:57] * DuTempete huggles Gryphen. |
| 20:59.38 | Zurr | [16:57] <Malgayne> Does Gryphen have a macro that do |
| 21:00.07 | Zurr | not sure i like my IRC client |
| 21:00.16 | DuTempete | why not? |
| 21:06.16 | Kaso | Adys, are you there? |
| 21:07.01 | Adys | ya |
| 21:07.02 | Adys | kaso |
| 21:07.29 | Kaso | So what ever happened to the autosniff project i see teo's site isnt working anymore |
| 21:07.41 | Adys | he's on holiday |
| 21:07.59 | Kaso | i see, so it isnt down for the count? good too hear |
| 21:08.05 | Adys | ya |
| 21:13.35 | DuTempete | Hrmm... how do you block text around an image? |
| 21:14.54 | Dotted | updated the RSS module in newsbot, hopefully it wont break |
| 21:15.34 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Matchmaking System ? Infinite Dragonflight ? - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=691.0 |
| 21:15.34 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: End year events, US downtime, comics - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=687.0 |
| 21:15.34 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: 2.2 Changes on scrolls, Blizzcon, Comics. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=683.0 |
| 21:15.34 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Archimonde hotfixed. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=676.0 |
| 21:15.34 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: More updates on 2.2 Patch Notes - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=675.0 |
| 21:16.01 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Warcraft Weekly - Episode 103 - by Schwick - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1604 |
| 21:16.01 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Wow Diorama Ranks 4 Most Popular - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1603 |
| 21:16.01 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Archimonde Hotfix and Patch 2.2 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1605 |
| 21:16.01 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Legendary Pictures - World of Warcraft Film Blizzcon video - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1607 |
| 21:16.01 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Metzen: The Lich King's Motives - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1606 |
| 21:16.15 | [NewsBot] | 10 lines more |
| 21:16.18 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Dr. Phil Taping Video Game Violence Episode - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/14/dr-phil-taping-game-violence-episode/ |
| 21:16.18 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Three New Gamer Videos for Republican Presidential Debate - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/14/three-new-gamer-videos-for-republican-presidential-debate/ |
| 21:16.18 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Chinese Jack Thompson? - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/14/chinese-jack-thompson/ |
| 21:16.18 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Is Best Buy Gouging Game Consumers with a ‘Halo Tax’ ? - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/14/is-best-buy-gouging-game-consumers-with-a-halo-tax/ |
| 21:16.20 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Oops! Xbox Exec Sold Even More Stock Prior to RROD Admission - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/14/oops-xbox-exec-sold-even-more-stock-prior-to-rrod-admission/ |
| 21:16.48 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: To gank, or not to gank, that is the question. - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/to-gank-or-not-to-gank-that-is-the-question/ |
| 21:16.48 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Happy Birthday CMs - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/happy-birthday-cms/ |
| 21:16.48 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: A Druid with 122k health? She must eat her Wheaties. - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/a-druid-with-122k-health-she-must-eat-her-wheaties/ |
| 21:16.48 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Build Shop: Warlock ??/41+/?? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/build-shop-warlock-41/ |
| 21:16.49 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The biggest bargain in the AH - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/the-biggest-bargain-in-the-ah/ |
| 21:17.01 | Dotted | hurrah it works \o/ |
| 21:17.04 | Kaso | spammz |
| 21:17.11 | Zurr | ban the spammer! |
| 21:17.34 | Dotted | /care |
| 21:18.32 | pcj | holy hell |
| 21:21.03 | Dotted | that would ban me aswell nub :8 |
| 21:21.35 | pcj | i'm willing to sacrifice you to spare us from the spam |
| 21:21.48 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Things I learned from WoW - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/things-i-learned-from-wow/ |
| 21:21.55 | Kaso | set your client to ignore newsbot :> |
| 21:21.59 | Kaso | if you like |
| 21:22.17 | pcj | never, then i'd have to actually get a RSS client and monitor the RSS feed myself |
| 21:22.23 | Kaso | haha |
| 21:22.38 | Dotted | then stop complaininmg >_> |
| 21:22.39 | Kaso | I do like the gamespolitics ones |
| 21:22.53 | Kaso | 90% of wowinsider articles are worthless crap i knew about 2 weeks ago |
| 21:23.01 | pcj | what's the other 10% |
| 21:23.13 | Kaso | Amusing picture mostly |
| 21:23.21 | Dotted | i agree |
| 21:23.51 | Kaso | I do like the around azeroth pictures every now and again |
| 21:23.55 | pcj | lol why do you have newsbot configured to deliver the content then dotted |
| 21:24.10 | Kaso | its scary to see stuff in this game i didnt know existed |
| 21:24.27 | Dotted | Kirkburn wanted it |
| 21:24.36 | Dotted | i dont care |
| 21:27.24 | DuTempete | Zurr |
| 21:27.33 | DuTempete | [[User:DuTempete]] better? |
| 21:27.34 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DuTempete |
| 21:27.44 | Zurr | what? |
| 21:28.16 | DuTempete | Is it better that way? |
| 21:30.59 | Zurr | you are no longer in the 500 club |
| 21:32.45 | DuTempete | am now |
| 21:32.46 | *** join/#wowwiki Sky2042 (n=Sky2042@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 21:32.46 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Sky2042] by ChanServ |
| 21:33.25 | DuTempete | Interesting, it doesn't alphabetize properly if you add in the category manually. |
| 21:33.37 | Sky2042_afk | what are we referring to now? |
| 21:34.57 | DuTempete | Zurr dropped the 500club template on my page, but it looked like shit =P |
| 21:35.21 | DuTempete | so I just used the image, but that removed the category |
| 21:35.38 | Zurr | fix's |
| 21:35.40 | Zurr | fix'd |
| 21:36.16 | DuTempete | oh, nice |
| 21:38.20 | DuTempete | ok, I'm gonna go do my dailies. /wave |
| 21:40.40 | Kirkburn | Question! What improvements do you think the wiki could do with? What should we add? |
| 21:40.47 | Sky2042_afk | huh? |
| 21:40.54 | Kirkburn | Forums, etc ... anything you want, list it :) |
| 21:41.16 | Sky2042_afk | forums would be nice, but we could also try partnering up with SoL... |
| 21:41.25 | Kirkburn | hah |
| 21:41.28 | foxlit | API docs need polish! |
| 21:41.32 | Kirkburn | (as for google ads, I think they're being phased out) |
| 21:41.36 | winkiller | english is fine |
| 21:41.36 | foxlit | API docs need downloadable refs! |
| 21:41.53 | Sky2042_afk | someone suggested TS / vent. that would be sweet. |
| 21:42.10 | Sky2042_afk | anyway, i'm off to be schooled. |
| 21:42.12 | Sky2042_afk | :] |
| 21:42.13 | Kirkburn | TS for the wiki? |
| 21:42.16 | Sky2042_afk | yeah |
| 21:42.28 | Kirkburn | That's .... interesting |
| 21:42.34 | AFKDuTempete | Ooh, yeah, forums would be really nice, Kirkburn. |
| 21:42.44 | AFKDuTempete | ooooh TS!!!!!!! |
| 21:42.46 | foxlit | Aren't, er, talk pages sort of like forums? |
| 21:42.47 | AFKDuTempete | fuggin sweet |
| 21:42.57 | Sky2042_afk | yes to foxlit. they are. |
| 21:43.00 | AFKDuTempete | well, actually, the village pump is more like a forum |
| 21:43.11 | AFKDuTempete | so I think we could do w/o |
| 21:43.13 | Kirkburn | I'm talking about phpbb forums :) |
| 21:43.16 | Sky2042_afk | post on VP kirkburn :] |
| 21:43.16 | foxlit | And for generic chit-chat, there's always wow |
| 21:43.17 | AFKDuTempete | But, TS is totally different |
| 21:43.17 | Kirkburn | For lore, etc |
| 21:43.25 | AFKDuTempete | we MUST get TS |
| 21:43.30 | foxlit | wiki beats forums, tbh |
| 21:43.30 | Sky2042_afk | actually, i bet i know someone who we could borrow forums from... |
| 21:43.31 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 21:43.33 | AFKDuTempete | well, I prefer Vent |
| 21:43.35 | foxlit | for lore. |
| 21:43.44 | Kirkburn | Talk pages are not forums |
| 21:43.46 | Sky2042_afk | vent is better, but it isn't free :P |
| 21:43.56 | amro_ | AFKDuTempete: TS is more supported |
| 21:43.58 | Kirkburn | The only forum like page on the wiki is the VP |
| 21:44.00 | foxlit | Talk pages serve as an area to discuss articles |
| 21:44.00 | AFKDuTempete | true, we'd probably have a lot more people |
| 21:44.09 | foxlit | Forums serve as an area to discuss stuff |
| 21:44.15 | Kirkburn | Exactly |
| 21:44.25 | foxlit | If stuff ~= articles, then go to wow forums |
| 21:44.26 | Kirkburn | And where do people go to discuss lore? |
| 21:44.26 | AFKDuTempete | We don't really have a "general chat" anything, and that's all I would erally say we're missing |
| 21:44.34 | foxlit | On the relevant lore pages |
| 21:44.45 | Kirkburn | Discuss lore in general >_> |
| 21:44.46 | Sky2042_afk | kirkburn, how about I approach Rollie? i doubt he would mind |
| 21:44.47 | foxlit | Besides, what's this notion of discussing lore, anyway? |
| 21:44.53 | Kirkburn | Sky, who? |
| 21:45.00 | Sky2042_afk | Rollie: dev of WarcraftRealms |
| 21:45.04 | foxlit | "I bet Thrall could totally kick Saurfang's ass!" "Oh no you don't!" |
| 21:45.12 | AFKDuTempete | I'm not sure discussing lor ein general is necessary |
| 21:45.13 | Kirkburn | Sky, regarding? |
| 21:45.19 | Sky2042_afk | borrowing his forums :] |
| 21:45.19 | amro | that's not really lore |
| 21:45.35 | AFKDuTempete | lol foxlit, yeah, I think we would want to avoid that |
| 21:45.38 | Kirkburn | Okay, my point is - how do we increase readership, create a better community spirit, and keep people coming to the site? |
| 21:45.43 | AFKDuTempete | but definitely vent! |
| 21:45.44 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
| 21:45.50 | foxlit | That's the only thing I can think of that wouldn't go in a talk page |
| 21:45.56 | Sky2042_afk | ok, definitely leaving now. post on VP |
| 21:46.01 | foxlit | Create better content |
| 21:46.01 | Kirkburn | See ya Sky |
| 21:46.15 | foxlit | if you build it, they'll come |
| 21:46.22 | foxlit | Add a real "news" section of the wiki |
| 21:46.25 | Kirkburn | foxlit, have you seen the SoL or RPPvP forums? |
| 21:46.39 | foxlit | Briefly. |
| 21:46.42 | foxlit | SoL appears silly. |
| 21:46.47 | Kirkburn | They carry completely different topics to us, but not immature stuff |
| 21:46.59 | Kirkburn | Only cause of what you've been linked to :P |
| 21:47.29 | Kirkburn | A real news section will need maintainers :/ |
| 21:47.35 | foxlit | So far I've been linked to a 40x page saying "bad hostname" |
| 21:47.41 | foxlit | I'm sure people would actually be willing to do that. |
| 21:47.52 | Kirkburn | The thought occurs - can a section be an RSS aggregator? |
| 21:47.59 | Kirkburn | Dotted, poke |
| 21:48.24 | Kirkburn | How about having your bot upload the RSS links to a page? |
| 21:48.26 | foxlit | There's no good source of WoW news at the moment |
| 21:49.00 | foxlit | So even if you gather stuff from round about, you'd be better of having live people writing the content |
| 21:49.41 | Dotted | Kirkburn :o |
| 21:51.01 | Dotted | make newsbot parse an rss feed and put the links on a webpage oO? |
| 21:51.57 | Kirkburn | Dotted, exactly |
| 21:52.04 | Dotted | www.netvibes.com |
| 21:52.30 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 21:52.34 | Kirkburn | On the wiki ... |
| 21:52.45 | Kirkburn | Y'know, the wiki which I want people to visit for this stuff |
| 21:52.51 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 21:52.51 | foxlit | People can already subscribe to those RSS feeds on their own using a better interface than a wiki page. |
| 21:53.13 | foxlit | So you're unlikely to attract anyone with a "come get your news from wowinsider here" page :P |
| 21:53.27 | Kirkburn | No, but it's an added extra for visiting |
| 21:53.36 | Dotted | + im not so sure how to do it with mirc scripting (if even possible) |
| 21:53.53 | foxlit | Nah; use humans or don't do it at all |
| 21:54.05 | Kirkburn | As you, foxlit, just said "Add a real "news" section of the wiki" ... the only way that can be maintained is by a bot |
| 21:54.10 | Dotted | heck i dont even know hoe the wiki bots work |
| 21:54.12 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events works :P |
| 21:54.32 | Kirkburn | It has thousands of contributers >_> |
| 21:54.38 | foxlit | So? :) |
| 21:54.49 | foxlit | I think you may be off by several orders of magnitude |
| 21:54.53 | foxlit | But that's beyond the point |
| 21:55.34 | foxlit | _If_ there is a news section you can contribute to that actually makes sense and is interesting, people will want to contribute to it. |
| 21:56.39 | Taurmindo | anyone know like a "icon" builder for the arena teams? |
| 21:56.41 | Kirkburn | For a comparison of that - http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page |
| 21:57.05 | Kirkburn | Wikinews is part of wikipedia, and it's hardly busy |
| 21:57.20 | foxlit | 16k users, 462k page edits? |
| 21:57.31 | foxlit | And it's more or less current |
| 21:57.46 | Kirkburn | And 50 changes covers a 5 hour period |
| 21:57.50 | AFKDuTempete | doesn't wikipedia just use articles for news items? |
| 21:58.08 | foxlit | Yes, that's the general idea |
| 21:58.19 | Kirkburn | No, wikipedia isn't a news source |
| 21:58.29 | foxlit | Well, wikinews does |
| 21:58.46 | foxlit | Wikipedia imports briefs and highlights articles that may contain information about the relevant things |
| 21:58.48 | AFKDuTempete | So their front page stuff is just links to wikinews? |
| 21:58.52 | Kirkburn | It has articles that can cover current events, but it's certainly not what it's for |
| 21:59.25 | Kirkburn | The in the news stuff links to the articles about those involved, not the news itself |
| 21:59.55 | foxlit | Sometimes those articles contain information about the news :) |
| 22:00.10 | Kirkburn | Anywaaaay, I really don't see wowwiki news taking off |
| 22:00.34 | Kirkburn | We've had something for it for years, but only fandyllic got anywhere with it |
| 22:00.37 | foxlit | Your loss; other websites that do it are quite okay with their visitor counts :) |
| 22:00.54 | foxlit | Problem: stuff fandyllic mirrored was on the wow.com front page. |
| 22:00.55 | Kirkburn | That's cause it's their job, and they have paid contributers |
| 22:01.24 | Kirkburn | Asking people to volunteer their time to repost news from other sites doesn't work well |
| 22:01.26 | foxlit | So nobody in their sane minds would want anything to do with that |
| 22:01.42 | Kirkburn | Indeed, reposting news from other sites is what will likely happen, which is a breach of copyright |
| 22:02.11 | foxlit | I'd imagine what would happen is that people would gather information and output a brief on their own |
| 22:02.19 | Kirkburn | I'm suggesting that instead of trying to become a news source ourselves, that we link the news that's out there |
| 22:02.46 | foxlit | Which does not attract anyone |
| 22:04.01 | Kirkburn | It keeps people on the site longer, and if we're collating several different sites, the visitors can have a one-stop-shop for news items |
| 22:04.16 | Kirkburn | We can also use those links to link to our own articles |
| 22:04.23 | Dotted | foxlit www.newz.dk is pretty popular as is www.filmz.dk both run on that concept of "reposting" news from other sites |
| 22:04.33 | foxlit | So we're copying their content and linking to ours? |
| 22:04.37 | Kirkburn | Neowin too |
| 22:04.49 | Kirkburn | I shall take an example from earlier |
| 22:04.51 | foxlit | Dotted: those aren't a pure RSS import? |
| 22:05.00 | foxlit | I see user names |
| 22:05.02 | Kirkburn | Bot adds: |
| 22:05.04 | Dotted | no |
| 22:05.07 | Kirkburn | MMO Champion: Matchmaking System ? Infinite Dragonflight ? - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=691.0 |
| 22:05.17 | Kirkburn | We link [[Infinite Dragonflight]] |
| 22:05.31 | foxlit | Haha |
| 22:05.50 | foxlit | Resolving links automatically would be a fun task |
| 22:05.59 | Kirkburn | So, people both get an article highlighted, plus they get a link to news without needing an RSS feed, or checking MMO Champuion |
| 22:06.04 | foxlit | But I can already do it by clicking one button on MMO champion |
| 22:06.07 | Kirkburn | Nah, we can do it manually |
| 22:06.21 | Kirkburn | *Not everyone uses RSS* |
| 22:06.22 | foxlit | And who wants to do that? |
| 22:06.32 | foxlit | And then have an up-to-date count on the number of updated news right there in my browser |
| 22:06.46 | Kirkburn | wha? |
| 22:06.52 | Kirkburn | Again, not everyone uses RSS |
| 22:07.16 | Kirkburn | In fact, relatively few people of the general population use it |
| 22:07.41 | foxlit | Relatively few people of the general population still visit wowwiki |
| 22:07.45 | Kirkburn | It saves people having to visit each site individually to see if there's new stuff |
| 22:07.58 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 22:08.21 | Kirkburn | Right, so what you're saying is that everyone should use RSS and be damned if they don't? |
| 22:08.45 | Kirkburn | For example, I am unable to RSS at this time |
| 22:08.46 | foxlit | I'm saying that I think I will gain no benefit from doing what you propose. |
| 22:09.10 | Kirkburn | The fact you wrote *I* ... |
| 22:09.13 | Dotted | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Niffler/RSS |
| 22:09.31 | foxlit | Therefore, I will probably not be contributing to that project; and if the rest of the audience is like me, they won't either. |
| 22:10.03 | Kirkburn | What project? All it requires is a bot to harvest links\ |
| 22:10.14 | foxlit | And humans to link articles |
| 22:10.31 | Kirkburn | Well that's an optional extra, but hardly time consuming |
| 22:10.36 | foxlit | And humans to treat duplicates |
| 22:10.49 | Kirkburn | Why would there be duplicates? |
| 22:11.01 | foxlit | Because presumably you're getting content from more than one half-decent source? |
| 22:11.09 | Kirkburn | Right, so why do we limit the sources? |
| 22:11.21 | foxlit | Because you don't want 20 pages of "ARCHIMONDE KILLED BY CURSE!" |
| 22:11.35 | Dotted | there arent that many sources tho |
| 22:11.39 | Kirkburn | True, but we shouldn't really be pciking and choosing who gets linked like that |
| 22:11.51 | Kirkburn | Who would we harvest from? |
| 22:12.02 | Kirkburn | Blizzplanet, WoWI, MMO-Champion |
| 22:12.25 | foxlit | Then you'll want people to filter the occasional junk that will pop up on those feeds. |
| 22:12.33 | Kelethar | holy crap curse downed archimonde? |
| 22:12.37 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:12.40 | foxlit | "Our forums now work!" |
| 22:13.05 | Kirkburn | And how often do you see that type of link? |
| 22:13.29 | Kirkburn | 20 links were posted earlier |
| 22:13.31 | Kirkburn | NONE of that type |
| 22:14.01 | AFKDuTempete | I still want voice chat... |
| 22:14.05 | Kirkburn | Let me put it another way, why are you resistant to the idea? |
| 22:14.10 | Kirkburn | AFKDuTempete, duly noted :P |
| 22:14.30 | AFKDuTempete | Not good enough, still <3, though. |
| 22:14.47 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 22:14.57 | foxlit | Because I think there's potential for more, really. |
| 22:15.24 | foxlit | WoWI is an odd news source |
| 22:15.47 | Dotted | medicro at best imo |
| 22:15.58 | Kirkburn | true, but its popular |
| 22:15.59 | foxlit | It's not even a real news source - it's more of an opinion commentary |
| 22:16.09 | Kirkburn | Aye it's a blog |
| 22:16.37 | Kirkburn | (and it's states as much, it does not intend to be a news centre) |
| 22:16.46 | foxlit | So we should probably not pull it? |
| 22:16.53 | foxlit | Which leaves mmo-champion and blizzplanet |
| 22:17.22 | Kirkburn | I would still it possible, due to the popularity |
| 22:17.30 | Kirkburn | WoR? |
| 22:17.35 | foxlit | I don't want noise with my news, thank you very much. |
| 22:17.37 | foxlit | As often as blizzplanet news appear, we might as well just be linking to mmo-champion |
| 22:17.46 | Kirkburn | They cover different stuff |
| 22:17.50 | Kirkburn | BP is lore, MMO is WoW |
| 22:18.08 | foxlit | Yeah, but chances are if you visit the wiki page at any one time, you'll see what's on the mmo-champion frontpage |
| 22:18.20 | Kirkburn | WoWI, Curse and Worldofwar may also be possible |
| 22:18.23 | foxlit | Rather than blizzplanet, which publishes things once in a blue moon |
| 22:18.40 | Kirkburn | Not so true recently |
| 22:18.50 | Kirkburn | There's been about 2 posts per day from them |
| 22:18.56 | foxlit | WoWInterface isn't really a valid source either - everyone who cares know they exists |
| 22:19.22 | Kirkburn | Knowing a site exists isn't the point of the aggregator |
| 22:19.34 | foxlit | You don't want to pull stuff that people don't care about |
| 22:19.42 | Kirkburn | It's so that you don't have to search every front page for new articles |
| 22:19.54 | Kirkburn | What constitutes "people don't care about"? |
| 22:20.10 | Kirkburn | Are you saying UI news isn't important? |
| 22:20.27 | Kirkburn | Btw, the current state of the news page - http://www.wowwiki.com/Warcraft_news |
| 22:20.48 | Kirkburn | (it's not linked on the Main Page, since it had no updates =) |
| 22:20.54 | foxlit | UI news on WoWInterface isn't relevant to anyone but addon authors. |
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| 22:21.10 | foxlit | Am I looking at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ there? |
| 22:21.51 | Kirkburn | UI news is relevant to a lot of people visiting the wiki |
| 22:21.54 | AFKDuTempete | Oooh, what if we encouraged folks to blog on a subpage from their user page? We could add an article that summarizes and links to them? |
| 22:22.07 | Kirkburn | An interesting idea! |
| 22:22.21 | foxlit | Might as well encourage folks to blog directly on the news page |
| 22:22.34 | Kirkburn | A proper blog could be a great idea |
| 22:22.39 | Kirkburn | Waiiit |
| 22:22.48 | foxlit | (curse, if they can get their act together, will kill you completely and mercilessly) |
| 22:22.52 | Kirkburn | This is exactly what I said was a bad idea to someone yesterday :/ |
| 22:22.56 | AFKDuTempete | lmao |
| 22:23.00 | Kirkburn | *sigh*, I'm conflicted |
| 22:23.05 | Dotted | imo i cant see a point in a news page that is seperate - it would need to be part of the content im viewing |
| 22:23.11 | AFKDuTempete | why was it a bad idea then, and a good idea, now? |
| 22:23.26 | AFKDuTempete | I would totally dig blogging from my user page. |
| 22:23.28 | Kirkburn | I think it was for a slightly different topic |
| 22:23.28 | foxlit | Main page box eventually, imo |
| 22:23.44 | Kirkburn | Ah yeah, that was regarding a blog about WoWWiki, not Warcraft |
| 22:24.09 | foxlit | Have an unprotected news list that everyone can edit, then summarize it into a protected newsbox on the front page every few hours. |
| 22:24.16 | pcj | a ventrilo server is a good idea |
| 22:24.40 | AFKDuTempete | Oh, no, that wouldn't be constructive. |
| 22:24.53 | Dotted | teamspeak plix kthx |
| 22:25.14 | Kirkburn | foxlit, but how do we get people to edit the news list? Who edits it? |
| 22:25.47 | pcj | I can |
| 22:25.57 | foxlit | As soon as it's a properly updated list whose existance people are aware of, they'll be quite happy to add what they've heard to it |
| 22:26.07 | Dotted | like watchdogs, have news posters :/? |
| 22:26.13 | pcj | Yeah |
| 22:26.26 | Kirkburn | Difficult to do unpaid |
| 22:26.28 | foxlit | There's no real purpose in declaring another closed group, though :) |
| 22:26.47 | foxlit | Hey, nobody pays me! |
| 22:26.48 | Dotted | dont underestimate the power of epeen |
| 22:27.01 | Kirkburn | News posters would be basically be wowinsider, but not getting paid for the same job |
| 22:27.01 | foxlit | epeen for writing for a popular newssource is huuuge! |
| 22:27.11 | AFKDuTempete | We can create a news community team, Kirk. |
| 22:27.14 | foxlit | wowinsider posts news? |
| 22:27.18 | pcj | Well, if we could designate a certain usergroup with certain rights to edit a certain page it would be more feasible |
| 22:27.31 | AFKDuTempete | Each person takes a news sites and watches it? |
| 22:27.41 | foxlit | Bad idea |
| 22:27.49 | Kirkburn | Creating a CT won't magic people from nowhere though - of you guys, who would really really dedicate their time to report WoW news? |
| 22:27.50 | Dotted | nah not feasable AFKDuTempete |
| 22:27.53 | foxlit | As soon as you close it to everyone who wants to contribute, it becomes a job. |
| 22:27.56 | foxlit | Jobs are boring. |
| 22:28.30 | Kirkburn | Of all the time I've been here, I've not seen people say "I wish I could post news on here" |
| 22:28.35 | foxlit | If you wanted to have a select group of people do something, have them be responsible for summarizing this stuff for the main page |
| 22:28.42 | *** part/#wowwiki Malgayne (n=Malgayne@h-66-166-53-154.lsanca54.covad.net) |
| 22:29.07 | Dotted | Kirkburn well maybe news just isnt feasable for the wiki |
| 22:29.08 | foxlit | Kirkburn: that's partly because nobody knows we do news, so nobody comes here for news, so there's no audience to write for |
| 22:29.17 | Kirkburn | (I have a meeting on thursday to discuss this type of stuff) |
| 22:29.21 | Dotted | or what foxlit said |
| 22:29.33 | foxlit | so nobody wants to write news -> so there's no news -> so nobody knows we do news |
| 22:30.02 | Kirkburn | See, that |
| 22:30.05 | Kirkburn | arg |
| 22:30.07 | Kirkburn | Try again ... |
| 22:30.21 | Kirkburn | That's why I would want to start off with something automated and see how popular that is |
| 22:30.39 | foxlit | And that's why I don't want to start with something automated |
| 22:30.42 | Kirkburn | If people say "hey, that's cool, can I add my own stuff", then we could expand from it |
| 22:30.55 | foxlit | The discouraging result from doing that would kill your desire to do anything news-related for a while |
| 22:31.25 | Kirkburn | Well, how about a box split half automated, half user contributed |
| 22:31.33 | Kirkburn | (user on top) |
| 22:31.50 | Kirkburn | An unlocked page subpage being the user part |
| 22:32.03 | Kirkburn | With a nice link saying [edit me!] |
| 22:32.25 | Dotted | but more importantly, if a dedicated news team is created and everthing just works - will there be an rss feed ? |
| 22:32.26 | Kirkburn | (on a side note, vandalism seems to be pretty low atm) |
| 22:32.36 | Kirkburn | Then we could remove the automated part |
| 22:32.55 | Bibi | yes, start news, link Bibi |
| 22:33.10 | Kirkburn | Bibi no voiced, who Bibi? |
| 22:33.49 | Bibi | At least he's not a tea sucker |
| 22:33.49 | Kirkburn | Bibi must be impostor! |
| 22:33.49 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Boubouille] by ChanServ |
| 22:33.49 | Kirkburn | I had sushi and green tea an hour ago, yum |
| 22:33.49 | Boubouille | IMPOSTOR YOURSELF |
| 22:33.49 | AFKDuTempete | ooooh |
| 22:33.49 | Kirkburn | First time having sushi |
| 22:33.49 | AFKDuTempete | dammit Kirk. |
| 22:33.49 | Boubouille | I didn't see the highlight because I was busy working |
| 22:33.49 | Dotted | Boubouille is french thats bad enough :( |
| 22:33.56 | Boubouille | (=looking for methanol fire videos on youtube because it looks fun) |
| 22:33.57 | AFKDuTempete | haha |
| 22:34.09 | Kirkburn | foxlit, what are your feelings on a half/half box? |
| 22:34.12 | AFKDuTempete | Now I need to go make myself some tea. |
| 22:34.24 | foxlit | That could actually work :) |
| 22:34.37 | Kirkburn | Awesome |
| 22:34.44 | Dotted | Boubouille why does the major gaz station companies in france not accept visa? |
| 22:34.50 | Kirkburn | Obviously the next thing would be to get Dotted to work out how to do this :P |
| 22:35.04 | Boubouille | how would I know, I don't use gaz |
| 22:35.11 | Kirkburn | The only Warcraft news bit we have on the MP atm is that top-right line :( |
| 22:35.11 | Boubouille | We've got electricity now |
| 22:35.12 | Boubouille | it's nice |
| 22:35.14 | Dotted | you're french :( |
| 22:35.31 | Dotted | and southern france looks like a 3rd world country |
| 22:35.51 | Taurmindo | so.. how do i add a merge-suggestion. |
| 22:35.56 | Taurmindo | e.g. for http://www.wowwiki.com/Circle_of_Blood and http://www.wowwiki.com/Circle_of_Blood_Arena ? |
| 22:36.18 | Kirkburn | {{merge|article}} |
| 22:36.19 | [NewsBot] | Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/article |
| 22:36.25 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 22:36.28 | Dotted | [@Kirkburn]: Obviously the next thing would be to get Dotted to work out how to do this :P <- Thrae got some RSS stuff in his bot, i dont think my bot would be feasable fpor any wiki editing |
| 22:36.29 | AFKDuTempete | lol |
| 22:36.35 | Kirkburn | Dotted, okies |
| 22:36.40 | Kirkburn | Thrae, ping |
| 22:36.44 | AFKDuTempete | that needs to be fixed |
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| 22:37.01 | AFKDuTempete | that should've linked to Template:Merge |
| 22:37.12 | Kirkburn | Okay, so apart from the news thing, the forums and ts, what else would people like to see? |
| 22:37.22 | AFKDuTempete | I'm not big on the forums, Kirk |
| 22:37.23 | RedMachineD | alright, subhumans |
| 22:37.30 | RedMachineD | which is better for warlock: |
| 22:37.30 | Dotted | i dont understand the code behand the converter AFKDuTempete so its unlikely to get fixed :/ |
| 22:37.32 | RedMachineD | orc or undead |
| 22:37.33 | AFKDuTempete | We could just create another pump for general chat |
| 22:37.47 | AFKDuTempete | subhumans, eh? |
| 22:37.56 | Dotted | forums oO |
| 22:37.59 | Dotted | gief |
| 22:38.08 | Kirkburn | People ask for lore forums on wow.com all the time, if we provide that (and the information!) .... |
| 22:38.16 | Dotted | vBulletin if possible not some cheap ass phpbb |
| 22:38.29 | Kirkburn | Nah, phpbb is the oly choice at afaik |
| 22:38.39 | Dotted | /cry |
| 22:38.41 | Kirkburn | There's also wiki forums, but they're a bit useless |
| 22:38.48 | RedMachineD | orc or undead for warlock |
| 22:38.57 | Kirkburn | Wiki forums are basically wiki articles with templates |
| 22:39.03 | AFKDuTempete | wow.com is totally different than wowwiki, Kirk |
| 22:39.13 | Dotted | Kirkburn do like wowace and use http://www.simplemachines.org/ |
| 22:39.17 | AFKDuTempete | We have places to discuss lore, I just don't think there's any need to create a separate forum for it |
| 22:39.32 | Kirkburn | Wikia restrictions |
| 22:39.40 | AFKDuTempete | RedMachineD, apologize for calling Kirkburn a subhuman. He's very sensitive. |
| 22:39.42 | Dotted | wikia fails then |
| 22:39.54 | Kirkburn | Talk pages aren't for lore discussion though, they're for article content discussion |
| 22:40.06 | AFKDuTempete | article content being lore =P |
| 22:40.24 | Kirkburn | RedMachineD, whichever looks cooler :) |
| 22:40.32 | Kirkburn | Undead imo |
| 22:40.41 | RedMachineD | sigh |
| 22:40.44 | RedMachineD | you people are fucking useless |
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| 22:40.57 | Dotted | anyway i will be going to copenhagen in 5 hours so i might catch some sleep while i still can |
| 22:41.01 | Dotted | g'night |
| 22:41.14 | Kirkburn | Sleep well :) |
| 22:41.34 | Kirkburn | AFKDuTempete, that's as may be, but you know what I'm saying :( |
| 22:42.09 | Kirkburn | Say someone wanted to discuss an idea they had for Garona's parentage, we can't accomodate that |
| 22:42.27 | Kirkburn | (at least, we shouldn't, as it's not article-related) |
| 22:42.29 | AFKDuTempete | I think that what you're saying, though, is already happening on the wiki, just in a separate place for each topic. |
| 22:42.43 | Kirkburn | Aye, the analysis pages, but they don't really work |
| 22:42.54 | AFKDuTempete | Garona's parentage? If it's not contained in current lore, why would there be a place for it ata all? |
| 22:43.16 | AFKDuTempete | Any why wouldn't it be discussed at Garona's page? |
| 22:43.18 | Kirkburn | Well that's my point - people like to dicuss that stuff, but can't on the wiki |
| 22:43.32 | Kirkburn | Their ideas, not stuff from lore |
| 22:44.11 | Kirkburn | A forum would allow them to speculate that Brox fathered her, but the article talk page shouldn't as it has no citable basis |
| 22:44.21 | AFKDuTempete | Meh to speculation. |
| 22:44.31 | Kirkburn | People like to speculate =) |
| 22:44.33 | AFKDuTempete | But I understand what you're saying. |
| 22:44.39 | Kirkburn | See SoL and RPPvP, heh |
| 22:44.46 | AFKDuTempete | No, bagginsww likes to speculate. Big difference; he's not people. =P |
| 22:44.52 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 22:44.57 | AFKDuTempete | hehe |
| 22:45.52 | Kirkburn | Btw, about PlayXpert - http://www.playxpert.com/web/guest/widgetgallery/wowwiki |
| 22:48.54 | pcj | anyone know how long ago they added paypal as a payment option? |
| 22:49.20 | Kirkburn | who? |
| 22:49.25 | pcj | blizzard |
| 22:49.59 | Taurmindo | the merge-template is added to both articles, right? |
| 22:50.56 | pcj | You can |
| 22:51.06 | pcj | or you can add it to the article which you want to merge into the other |
| 22:52.09 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Guildless: The saga continues - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/when-casual-goes-a-raiding/ |
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| 22:56.50 | Thrae | Kirkburn: pong |
| 23:00.21 | Kirkburn | Hullo |
| 23:00.33 | Kirkburn | RSS feed to wiki, feasible? :) |
| 23:01.02 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Talking to me? |
| 23:01.51 | pcj | no, why would anyone want to talk to you |
| 23:01.52 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 23:01.57 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 23:02.02 | Thrae | Kirkburn: So, what would the RSS be for then? |
| 23:02.06 | Kirkburn | (lol "Blizzard GMs have confirmed that auctions do indeed continue during downtime." bid bid bid!) |
| 23:02.28 | Kirkburn | basically to feed RSS links from several sites to the WW Main Page |
| 23:02.36 | Kirkburn | Essentially an aggregator |
| 23:03.05 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Hmm, your wiki code doesn't support that? You can't inject HTML? |
| 23:03.05 | pcj | there's probably an extension to do it |
| 23:03.06 | Kirkburn | So that when you view the WW MP, you see the last 5 story links, for example |
| 23:03.18 | Kirkburn | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Niffler/RSS was linked by Dotted |
| 23:03.27 | Kirkburn | I just wanted to have you view :) |
| 23:04.30 | Thrae | Wow that's certainly complex. Must be all stylish and stuff. My RSS module for ThraeBot just does basically what NewsBot does. |
| 23:04.58 | Kirkburn | I will look into it from my end first, but I may come back to you |
| 23:05.14 | Kirkburn | I reckon it's stylish cause it's been copied so many times :P |
| 23:05.16 | Thrae | It's also in Lua of course, not this php...which I guess is the wiki side of things |
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| 23:05.36 | Kirkburn | likely, yeah |
| 23:05.53 | pcj | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:RSS_Extensions |
| 23:05.58 | Thrae | I use Kaso's code for editing the wiki, which none of my loaded modules use yet |
| 23:07.02 | Thrae | A wowhead editing module would also be easy, but again, I don't know what to implement, what people would want. |
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| 23:16.03 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Starcraft Lore Panel - SCLegacy Article - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1609 |
| 23:16.03 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Rise of the Lich Kong - Part 2 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1608 |
| 23:18.13 | Kirkburn | What's a Lich Kong? |
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| 23:18.43 | EvilGrin | An undead ape? |
| 23:23.21 | winkiller | lol |
| 23:26.08 | Taurmindo | don't make fun of the undead apes. |
| 23:26.17 | Taurmindo | they're evil threats. |
| 23:26.32 | Taurmindo | thank god we got paladin mario to avoid thier barrels and save the princess! |
| 23:27.48 | amro | more likely to be a night elf hunter than a pally if jumping is involved |
| 23:28.09 | Taurmindo | but.. we can't have a female nelf saving the princess! |
| 23:28.20 | Taurmindo | or wait, of course. i forgot that all of them were lesbians. |
| 23:28.59 | amro | rofl |
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| 23:37.04 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Does Mount Hyjal matter? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/14/does-mount-hyjal-matter/ |
| 23:39.22 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 23:39.42 | Kirkburn | Y'know, you'd be amazed how much time the wiki takes up >< |
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| 23:40.20 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3 ... see the partner box! |
| 23:41.30 | Kirkburn | For Warcraft news, I would suggest it for the left hand column, under the article links |
| 23:41.50 | Kirkburn | In fact, hell, why don't I make it |
| 23:46.47 | Kirkburn | Ta daa! |
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| 23:50.20 | Bagginsww | ok my own internet now yay |
| 23:50.32 | Bagginsww | and a few hours until the hurricane hits LOL |
| 23:50.52 | Kaydeethree | hm? |
| 23:51.25 | Kaydeethree | oh, you're in hawaii. |
| 23:51.32 | Kaydeethree | what the hell is a "flossie", by the way? |
| 23:53.54 | Bagginsww | a name? |
