| 00:11.06 | pcj | no, he's afk, hence the name |
| 00:11.44 | Taurmindo | so, you're a pc, hence the name? :) |
| 00:12.01 | Sky2042 | gg pcj |
| 00:12.18 | pcj | no pcj is my initials :P |
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| 00:52.31 | AFKDuTempete | WOOT! music merrily burned. Now to do that homework thing... |
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| 01:53.19 | pcj | haha he ignored you |
| 01:54.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | PMs are a wonderful thing |
| 01:54.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | Anyway, I'm off to sleep (again) |
| 01:54.54 | Kirkburn|sleep | night all! |
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| 02:48.19 | SpeaK` | ki |
| 03:05.38 | AFKDuTempete | Dotted |
| 03:06.16 | AFKDuTempete | Anyone logged into the TS server Dotted is testing? |
| 03:38.51 | pcj | i don't use TS |
| 03:41.19 | DuTempete | well, no voice chat with me, then, eh pcj? |
| 03:41.38 | pcj | you're too busy packing anyway |
| 03:41.43 | DuTempete | not atm. |
| 03:41.51 | DuTempete | But I can't get on the server, anyway. That's why I asked. |
| 03:42.20 | DuTempete | I keep getting "invalid port", though I copy/pasted from Dotted's post on the VP. |
| 03:43.48 | DuTempete | what's the template to tack a sig on an unsigned post? |
| 03:45.08 | DuTempete | nm found it |
| 03:45.16 | Dotted | DuTempete the only think i can think of is my isp is blocking incomming foreign traffic |
| 03:45.32 | Dotted | beter i better get to bed :p |
| 03:46.40 | DuTempete | lol |
| 03:46.48 | DuTempete | is no one else on it? |
| 04:04.47 | DuTempete | Awww, Droffats... wtf :( |
| 04:07.44 | DuTempete | nm, not your fault. |
| 04:23.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Anveena_Teague |
| 04:30.41 | Droffats | What happened? |
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| 04:41.26 | DuTempete | Droffats, bad article name. |
| 04:41.40 | DuTempete | I saw your fixing links to it, and freaked out. =P |
| 04:42.12 | DuTempete | Kirkburn would have my hide if he found me letting that stuff sneak by under my nose. =P |
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| 04:50.48 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Anveena_Teague#Place_for_updates |
| 04:50.50 | Bagginsw | I hate zarnks |
| 04:51.03 | Bagginsw | I usally don't hate people :p |
| 04:51.09 | DuTempete | lol baggins |
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| 04:51.24 | Bagginsw | He reminds me of an immature 10 year old |
| 04:51.30 | Bagginsw | probably is... |
| 04:51.38 | Bagginsw | Maybe I don't like kids... |
| 04:51.49 | Bagginsw | <cranky old man> |
| 04:51.58 | DuTempete | He hasn't bothered me, yet. |
| 04:52.00 | DuTempete | awwww |
| 04:52.55 | karatar | 0 irc.freenode.net from: niven.freenode.net |
| 04:52.55 | DuTempete | Ok, there's that karatar shit again... |
| 04:52.55 | DuTempete | and I think it's the same people |
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| 04:52.55 | DuTempete | wtf |
| 04:53.23 | DuTempete | Although I've never seen karatar announce it *before* they go offline. that's fishy. |
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| 05:20.52 | pcj | that was fun |
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| 05:36.52 | Kirkburn | pcj, starting Skype killed my connection >_> |
| 05:46.22 | Fisker- | ewww skype |
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| 05:54.02 | Boubouille | oh |
| 05:54.07 | Boubouille | they updated the official voice chat FAQ |
| 05:54.12 | Boubouille | Q: How does the World of Warcraft voice chat compare to third party voice chat services? |
| 05:54.22 | Boubouille | A: Quality is crap, but it's free so STFU bitches |
| 05:54.25 | Boubouille | (basically) |
| 05:54.42 | Sky2042 | haha |
| 05:55.24 | Boubouille | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612223263&pageNo=1&sid=1#1 |
| 05:55.26 | Boubouille | seriously. |
| 05:55.47 | Boubouille | The key point to keep in mind is that our voice chat technology is tied directly into our user interface, making it extremely easy to set up and use. It also operates with minimal impact to game performance, and the bandwidth usage for voice communication is offered at no additional cost to the player. |
| 05:58.32 | Sky2042 | http://www.comcast.net/news/politics/index.jsp?cat=POLITICS&fn=/2007/08/30/751801.html&cvqh=itn_hillary |
| 06:01.50 | Fisker- | i thought it was p2p? |
| 06:02.21 | Boubouille | that's maybe why it's offered at no additional cost. |
| 06:02.22 | Boubouille | :D |
| 06:02.39 | Sky2042 | lol |
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| 06:10.30 | DuTempete | Mmmm... Freddy Mercury... |
| 06:10.49 | DuTempete | I have Queen on the brain, now, Kirk. |
| 06:13.20 | Sky2042 | http://tinyurl.com/2hzexr |
| 06:13.24 | Sky2042 | that > queen |
| 06:13.33 | Sky2042 | except we will rock you and champions |
| 06:16.12 | DuTempete | lol Sky |
| 06:16.18 | Fisker- | i hate you Sky2042 |
| 06:16.27 | Sky2042 | why, fisker-? |
| 06:17.01 | Fisker- | that's why |
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| 06:31.32 | Sky2042 | tekkub: there's an option in your preferences to automatically hide tocs, i think |
| 06:33.47 | Tekkub | I want them still around on rare occations |
| 06:33.59 | Tekkub | my CSS thing is easy to toggle off, that pref isn't |
| 06:34.34 | Sky2042 | oi. i thought it just automatically collapsed it. that's so silly to completely remove it. |
| 06:34.48 | Tekkub | I don't like the collapse |
| 06:34.57 | Tekkub | it still takes up a whole horiz space |
| 06:35.01 | Sky2042 | true |
| 06:35.06 | Tekkub | I want the damn things to be popout menus |
| 06:35.13 | Tekkub | off in the corner |
| 06:35.20 | Sky2042 | lol |
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| 06:53.45 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zarnks#Intelligence gg |
| 06:54.08 | Bagginsww | he's such a horde biased, roleplaying racist :p |
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| 07:04.45 | Bagginsww | wishes one could ban idiots :p |
| 07:04.49 | Bagginsww | for being idiots |
| 07:04.53 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 07:04.55 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 07:05.11 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 07:08.24 | Sky2042 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_Changes_coefficient |
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| 07:23.23 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zarnks#Intelligence |
| 07:23.33 | Kirkburn | cripes, racist? |
| 07:23.45 | Bagginsww | read that thread :p |
| 07:23.58 | Bagginsww | I mean by a roleplaying as a racist horde |
| 07:24.13 | Bagginsww | in that "horde" are superior blah blah |
| 07:24.15 | Kirkburn | I was commenting a few days ago on the Taunka American Indian thing |
| 07:24.16 | DuTempete | Jesus, you two could write a whole book on the damned subject. |
| 07:24.21 | Bagginsww | goblins are horde and are superior to gnomes blah blah |
| 07:24.40 | DuTempete | just beacuse Blizz fucked us over with Ratchett doesn't make goblins horde... |
| 07:24.52 | Bagginsww | He thinks majority of golbins are int eh horde |
| 07:24.57 | Kirkburn | People worrying that omg Blizz could be racist towards the Indians by portraying elements of their culture ... if that's the basis for racism, then pretty much everything anywhere ever is racism |
| 07:25.00 | Bagginsww | and those we se elsewhere the minority |
| 07:25.13 | DuTempete | Oh, don't get me started on that, kirk. |
| 07:25.27 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, he needs to see Undermine :P |
| 07:25.45 | Bagginsww | kirk just thinking other people are being racist because of using indian style is a kind of racims :p |
| 07:25.48 | DuTempete | I dunno if you get as much of it by you, as we do down here. But "cry racist" is a real problem. |
| 07:26.25 | DuTempete | You can't tell a black junkie in the hood to get a job w/o getting called a racist. |
| 07:26.42 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 07:27.00 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 07:27.02 | DuTempete | If he's lying in his own piss, it's my fault. |
| 07:27.31 | DuTempete | Because my family is white... |
| 07:27.32 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I pointed out that no-one said the dwarves were bordering on "racism" ... |
| 07:27.36 | Bagginsww | LOL and kirkburn he's now calling the Horde, "New Horde" everywhere :p |
| 07:27.43 | Kirkburn | ach |
| 07:27.44 | Bagginsww | everytime he types something out and uses the term horde |
| 07:27.45 | DuTempete | wtf does that mean?! |
| 07:27.55 | Bagginsww | he's misinterpreting the name of a quet |
| 07:27.58 | Bagginsww | title of a quest |
| 07:28.01 | DuTempete | lol |
| 07:28.02 | Bagginsww | and an in-game book |
| 07:28.05 | Bagginsww | its a title |
| 07:28.16 | Bagginsww | but the term when used in sentences is usually lower case |
| 07:28.20 | Bagginsww | as in new horde |
| 07:28.22 | Bagginsww | or new Horde |
| 07:28.33 | DuTempete | Well, I'm sure you'er the biased one, though, baggins; being a hobbit and all... |
| 07:28.41 | Bagginsww | but he's saying because Blizzard used "New Horde" in the game that's the official spelling, even if it is in title :p |
| 07:28.49 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 07:29.04 | Bagginsww | eh its only a parttime job |
| 07:29.11 | Bagginsww | I'm as human as you |
| 07:29.17 | Bagginsww | hopes to god you are human |
| 07:29.18 | Kirkburn | So ... not very? |
| 07:29.24 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 07:29.26 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 07:29.39 | Bagginsww | homo sapien? |
| 07:29.39 | Kirkburn | oooh, intro cinematic |
| 07:30.20 | Bagginsww | Kirkburn you remember that goblins used to respond to alliance, mentioning they were hired by the Horde right? |
| 07:30.36 | Kirkburn | Yes |
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| 07:30.56 | Bagginsww | if he accuses me of making things up you can defend me, :) |
| 07:31.09 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zarnks |
| 07:31.12 | Bagginsww | ok look at his newest post |
| 07:31.24 | Bagginsww | yep he is an idiot |
| 07:31.28 | KenSentMe | Do you people also have major lag when playing on the wow servers right now? I have a latency of over 3000 |
| 07:31.35 | Bagginsww | There were Horde goblins before the zepplin goblins in World of Warcraft. Perhaps you missed the many Horde pvped goblins in Orgimmar,the goblins working for Horde in Ashenvale,the numerous Horde pvped goblin quest givers. You'd have to have never played Horde to miss those goblins Zarnks 07:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC) |
| 07:31.46 | Bagginsww | I explained to him they used not be pvp flagged |
| 07:31.56 | Bagginsww | and he looked past my post like a dumb cow |
| 07:32.09 | Bagginsww | and just repeated his false info |
| 07:32.26 | Bagginsww | kirkburn, your my only hope, :p |
| 07:32.32 | Bagginsww | I need you to step in and correct him :p |
| 07:32.52 | DuTempete | lol |
| 07:33.08 | DuTempete | I dunno if you can manage to distract him at this point. |
| 07:33.17 | DuTempete | He's probably watching himself dance naked, atm. |
| 07:34.54 | DuTempete | Night guys. |
| 07:35.10 | Kirkburn | KenSentMe, what server, where? |
| 07:35.22 | Kirkburn | On my EU server, I got no problem |
| 07:35.24 | DuTempete | You probably wont see me around much, this weekend. I'l be visiting family. |
| 07:35.34 | DuTempete | *have |
| 07:35.42 | KenSentMe | Kirkburn, good question. I don't even know what realm i'm in :p |
| 07:36.08 | DuTempete | Laters! |
| 07:36.10 | KenSentMe | Kirkburn, is there somewhere i can check that, without starting wow? |
| 07:38.06 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zarnks#arbritrary_break1 |
| 07:38.09 | Bagginsww | for you kirkburn |
| 07:38.14 | KenSentMe | Kirkburn, i'm in the Sporregar realm, don't know which server that is though |
| 07:40.38 | Kirkburn | KenSentMe, same thing |
| 07:40.46 | Kirkburn | If the US, I can't help you |
| 07:42.49 | KenSentMe | Kirkburn, no, eu. But it seems like the server is ok now |
| 07:42.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zarnks#Intelligence |
| 07:45.30 | Bagginsww | so how many of you got the goblin transponder to gnomeregan? |
| 07:45.37 | Bagginsww | as alliance |
| 07:48.12 | Sky2042 | hrm... didn't need to. those damn mages :) |
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| 08:28.55 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kezan sky picture problems :p |
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| 08:33.39 | ws | hey |
| 08:34.03 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
| 08:34.28 | Kirkburn | sup? |
| 08:45.41 | Fisker- | Dotted |
| 08:46.42 | Sky2042 | ws |
| 08:47.00 | Dotted | [[WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Test_Teamspeak_online]] |
| 08:47.00 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Test_Teamspeak_online |
| 08:47.01 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
| 08:47.08 | Dotted | Fisker- |
| 08:47.13 | Fisker- | Dotted |
| 08:47.14 | Kirkburn | WHAT? |
| 08:47.14 | ws | hey Sky2042 |
| 08:47.19 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
| 08:47.24 | Dotted | lern2read |
| 08:47.27 | Dotted | srlsy |
| 08:47.52 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn |
| 08:47.57 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
| 08:48.22 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 08:48.27 | Dotted | [[WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Test_Teamspeak_online]] Kirkburn |
| 08:48.27 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Test_Teamspeak_online |
| 08:48.50 | Kirkburn | Dotted, cool, but will try it later |
| 08:48.53 | Sky2042 | lol, i got on |
| 08:49.05 | Dotted | on the TS? |
| 08:49.12 | Sky2042 | yah |
| 08:49.20 | Dotted | nice |
| 08:49.29 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 08:49.34 | Dotted | then its just DuTemplate who is a nub the |
| 08:49.35 | Dotted | n |
| 08:49.45 | Sky2042 | i just copy pasted into my browser. <3 firefox |
| 08:49.54 | Dotted | :D |
| 08:50.03 | Fisker- | yes because that was the work of Firefox |
| 08:51.16 | Sky2042 | does it matter whose it was? firefox is open sourcing, last i checked, so you are more than welcome to jack its code :P |
| 08:51.42 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: having fun with zarnks again! |
| 08:51.49 | Dotted | Fisker- cries much when people talk about firefox |
| 08:52.58 | Sky2042 | ~fisker- |
| 08:52.59 | infobot | somebody said fisker- was DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER, or a ... |
| 08:53.05 | Sky2042 | there we go |
| 08:53.21 | Kalroth | Firefox > Exploder or Oprah! |
| 08:54.05 | Fisker- | irrelevant firefox butt humping is still irrelevant firefox butt humping |
| 08:54.16 | Fisker- | so yeah it does matter when irrelevant firefox butt humping is included |
| 08:54.32 | Sky2042 | See infobot's statement, above. |
| 08:54.34 | dreamss2 | last ic hecked firefox had a ton of exploits patched |
| 08:54.39 | dreamss2 | :P |
| 08:54.45 | Kalroth | Fisker is just jealous because he's stuck with IE 5.5! |
| 08:55.02 | Fisker- | yeah Microsoft is holding me hostage |
| 08:55.05 | Fisker- | please send help |
| 08:55.36 | Kalroth | Urgh, arrownet. You're beyond help :P |
| 08:56.24 | Fisker- | Actual it was the only internets i could get |
| 08:56.42 | Kalroth | :( |
| 08:59.11 | Sky2042 | ~internet |
| 08:59.11 | infobot | The internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's, it's a series of tubes. |
| 08:59.20 | Sky2042 | oh, good infobot |
| 08:59.32 | Sky2042 | ~internets |
| 08:59.37 | Sky2042 | hmmm |
| 08:59.43 | Sky2042 | anyway, good night |
| 08:59.44 | Dotted | ~intarwebz |
| 09:12.15 | ws | night elves racial trait: +50% walking speed. |
| 09:12.15 | ws | does not stack up with boost from items. |
| 09:12.15 | ws | limitations: only works when dead |
| 09:12.23 | ws | I like this way to frame it :- |
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| 09:20.51 | ws | what's the counter class for a druid? |
| 09:21.24 | Kalroth | A warrior! |
| 09:21.57 | ws | ahh |
| 09:22.00 | ws | thank you :-) |
| 09:23.26 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Goblins_versus_Gnomes |
| 09:24.14 | Kalroth | Wall of text crits you for 3420 damage. |
| 09:24.49 | Kalroth | You need to add pictures of them, Baggins! |
| 09:25.25 | Bagginsww | someone should make a picture of a goblin fighting a gnome with technology |
| 09:26.12 | Bagginsww | btw I'm going to block that article to prevent zarnks from modify ing |
| 09:26.14 | Bagginsww | *it |
| 09:26.25 | Kalroth | Also each paragraph cites APG 101? |
| 09:26.25 | Bagginsww | if you have a picture for it just let me know |
| 09:26.36 | Bagginsww | yep, that's to prevent additions to each one |
| 09:26.41 | Bagginsww | if we unlock it later |
| 09:26.58 | Kalroth | My bad, I didn't check the category |
| 09:27.00 | Bagginsww | people trying to add their bias to it I mean |
| 09:27.05 | Kalroth | yup |
| 09:27.09 | Bagginsww | what category you want me to add to it |
| 09:27.35 | Bagginsww | added goblins and gnomes |
| 09:27.46 | Kalroth | Well that's just it, it's more of a lore story than actual game information |
| 09:28.05 | Kalroth | I was reading it as goblin vs gnome engineering |
| 09:28.08 | ws | I like it :-) |
| 09:28.13 | Kalroth | (which it is also :) |
| 09:28.13 | Bagginsww | ya its also suggestions for how to role play them, but that's cool thing about RPG books its both lore and how to guide |
| 09:28.19 | ws | but I'm a gnome, it's just refreshing to hear about goblin suicidal tendencies |
| 09:28.31 | ws | I tell you guys, these guys can't handle a wrench properly |
| 09:28.35 | Bagginsww | LOL |
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| 09:28.55 | Bagginsww | Well in the future it might be nice to expand on it, into a how to guide |
| 09:29.21 | Bagginsww | if there is already a guide of that sort merging the info into it |
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| 09:39.27 | ws | "Roleplaying_FAQ" subpage is a short introduction to roleplaying, without "lore-talk" |
| 09:39.44 | ws | but it could be good linking it to http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Roleplaying and http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zappie/Zappie%27s_Guide_To_Roleplaying_Gnomes |
| 09:40.10 | ws | especially to the 2nd one, there's a paragraph |
| 09:40.16 | ws | "Goblins |
| 09:40.18 | ws | Gnomes and goblins are huge rivals. Sometimes the rivalry is friendly, other times it isn.t. As a gnome, your character will have nothing good to say about goblins, and will probably take every opportunity to impugn their ethics and their intellect. However, gnomes are respectful even to goblins." |
| 09:40.27 | ws | a perfect place to link this article Goblins vs Gnomes |
| 09:40.32 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 09:41.21 | ws | ah, there's also "Professions: Engineering" later in that webpage |
| 10:07.09 | Bagginsww | Ok what do I do if an article in the RPG is called something like Mechanical Squirrel |
| 10:07.15 | Bagginsww | and has nothing to do with a squirrel box |
| 10:07.26 | Bagginsww | and yet mechanical squirrel links to the squirrel box |
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| 10:43.03 | ws | hmm... |
| 10:43.19 | ws | 3 points in Feral Instinct = 5 points in Master of Deception? |
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| 10:53.16 | Kalroth | Hello friends and infobot! |
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| 12:32.44 | DuTempete | morning! |
| 12:33.58 | Kalroth | Morning DuT! |
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| 12:34.23 | DuTempete | I see you've had yourself engraved upon the Topic, Kalroth... |
| 12:34.31 | Kalroth | Man |
| 12:34.37 | Kalroth | Woman |
| 12:34.55 | Kalroth | I bitched at Adys because everyone was picking on me and then he went and did that. |
| 12:35.02 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 12:35.25 | DuTempete | Wait, so you were QQing about people picking on you? |
| 12:35.38 | Dotted | !ts |
| 12:35.39 | [NewsBot] | WoWWiki Test TeamSpeak info: teamspeak://ts.wowwiki.bxd.dk:8769 |
| 12:35.40 | DuTempete | Why do I get the feeling you had it coming? |
| 12:35.42 | Dotted | gogo |
| 12:36.00 | DuTempete | Dotted, will it let me on, this time? =P |
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| 12:36.18 | Dotted | DuTempete depends on what you typed in as address :p |
| 12:36.27 | DuTempete | I copy/pasted =P |
| 12:36.31 | Kalroth | DuTempete: Yeah :( |
| 12:36.39 | Kalroth | Everyone in here are so mean to me. |
| 12:36.58 | Kalroth | I'm sure that I saw infobot trashtalk me the other day. |
| 12:37.02 | Dotted | DuTempete yes but if you copied teamspeak:// aswell i doubt it would work |
| 12:37.05 | DuTempete | Awwww, they're just showing their adoration for you, Kalroth. :) |
| 12:37.15 | DuTempete | Oh, I see |
| 12:38.30 | Dotted | well it works :p |
| 12:39.16 | Dotted | go to bed then :p |
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| 12:39.51 | Kalroth | DuTempete: You need fresh coffee. |
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| 12:40.09 | DuTempete | I just woke up, silly-head |
| 12:40.43 | Kalroth | Yeah, don't drink the coffee from last night. |
| 12:40.53 | DuTempete | which codec is it, Dotted? |
| 12:41.08 | Dotted | GSM 16.4 |
| 12:41.23 | Dotted | Kbitt |
| 12:41.24 | Dotted | -t |
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| 12:42.23 | Dotted | could use Speex i guess |
| 12:42.37 | Polarina | Speex! Hurray! |
| 12:42.53 | Dotted | :o |
| 12:44.30 | DuTempete | I'm not worried about Speex; I'm not on a mac |
| 12:44.41 | DuTempete | But I did have the same problem on Adys's server. |
| 12:45.47 | DuTempete | How long ago did Kirkburn go afk? |
| 12:46.22 | Dotted | [14:46:28] ::: Idle: 2hrs 36mins 50secs |
| 12:46.30 | Dotted | 2 and a half hours ago :p |
| 12:47.04 | DuTempete | gack |
| 12:47.17 | Dotted | brb |
| 12:58.25 | pcj | hmm |
| 12:58.30 | AFKDuTempete | I'm packing the car... |
| 12:58.36 | Kalroth | Bye! |
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| 13:08.48 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Starcraft II - Thor - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1664 |
| 13:10.18 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Take Two Warns Jack Thompson Over Manhunt 2 - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/31/take-two-warns-jack-thompson-over-manhunt-2/ |
| 13:10.19 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Hal Halpin Discusses AO Rating Problem in New Issue of EGM - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/31/hal-halpin-discusses-ao-rating-problem-in-new-issue-of-egm/ |
| 13:10.19 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Lyndon LaRouche Claims Video Game Coverup in VA Tech Commission Report - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/31/lyndon-larouche-claims-video-game-coverup-in-va-tech-commission-report/ |
| 13:11.51 | pcj | omg spam |
| 13:12.16 | AFKDuTempete | Morning, sunshine! |
| 13:24.09 | Fisker- | pcj |
| 13:24.11 | Fisker- | i has found stuff |
| 13:24.13 | Fisker- | liek bugs |
| 13:24.18 | pcj | :o |
| 13:25.55 | Fisker- | when i scroll on a page the lootbox appears higher up than it should |
| 13:26.41 | pcj | what page, browser |
| 13:27.52 | pcj | dotted is no longer a city :O |
| 13:28.14 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Black_Temple |
| 13:28.19 | Fisker- | IE7 of course |
| 13:28.22 | Dotted | atleast i wasnt an away |
| 13:28.23 | Fisker- | BEST BROWSER IN THE WORLD! |
| 13:28.27 | Dotted | that would suck |
| 13:30.06 | Laurly | AFKDuTempete http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Quest_Disambig_pages |
| 13:30.30 | pcj | if you can tell me why it does that fisker i can fix it :P |
| 13:31.23 | Laurly | I had an amazing night last night. cleared kara in 4 hours all bosses down on first attempt and no wipes :) |
| 13:31.45 | Polarina | Hehe... |
| 13:31.50 | pcj | nice laurly |
| 13:32.02 | Laurly | never cleared kara in one night before |
| 13:32.24 | Laurly | they didnt even wipe when my pc craped out again and fps dumped to 2 |
| 13:34.15 | Fisker- | pcj it seems to be stuck to the point where the line is |
| 13:34.19 | Fisker- | or something |
| 13:34.22 | Fisker- | hard to explain :P |
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| 13:34.38 | pcj | hmmmm |
| 13:34.46 | pcj | stupid IE |
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| 13:36.53 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:37.39 | pcj | no it seems to be stuck on something else |
| 13:37.48 | Fisker- | http://i10.tinypic.com/6btqljb.jpg |
| 13:38.00 | Fisker- | ok stupid tinypic |
| 13:38.02 | Fisker- | resized my image |
| 13:38.18 | Fisker- | but you can see it seems to have it at a "fixed" position |
| 13:38.27 | Kalroth | haha, you're using IE |
| 13:38.42 | Fisker- | atleast i'm not using Firefox |
| 13:38.45 | pcj | Yes, i know the problem |
| 13:38.50 | Fisker- | ok |
| 13:38.52 | pcj | I just don't know why it's doing it in IE |
| 13:39.26 | Kalroth | The popup doesn't work for me, I wonder if I'm blocking it |
| 13:39.37 | pcj | I removed all the lines/images etc and it still does it |
| 13:39.50 | Fisker- | you need to add it yourself Kalroth |
| 13:43.11 | pcj | see bottom of http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#CSS_.2F_JS_revamp kalroth |
| 13:48.48 | Laurly | name an NPC that can be mined after its dead? like the bog lords with herbing |
| 13:49.33 | Fisker- | boss in mana tombs |
| 13:49.37 | cladhaire | indeed. |
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| 13:49.48 | Fisker- | Tavarok |
| 13:50.09 | Polarina | Laurly: These elite giants around that huge red crystal in Hellfire Peninsula. |
| 13:51.13 | Laurly | kk boss in mana tombs wins :) |
| 13:53.35 | Fisker- | of course |
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| 14:27.18 | DuTempete | Okily peeps, I'm off to Chicago. |
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| 14:36.52 | |Umbra| | Good morning |
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| 15:26.12 | pcj | where has foxlit been |
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| 15:28.56 | pcj | lol |
| 15:28.57 | pcj | hi foxlit |
| 15:29.01 | pcj | I need a Foxbot! |
| 15:29.03 | foxlit | hi |
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| 15:31.06 | TOR_CNR | hello all |
| 15:31.19 | TOR_CNR | just a heads up to let you know I'm doing some bug fixing |
| 15:31.43 | TOR_CNR | the site might be inaccessible for a second if something goes wrong |
| 15:32.18 | pcj | what bugs? |
| 15:32.58 | TOR_CNR | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Server_requests#Possible.2Fprobable_bugs |
| 15:33.10 | TOR_CNR | the one in bold :P |
| 15:33.13 | pcj | ok |
| 15:33.17 | Laurly | admin saying something might go wrong......... thats scarry |
| 15:33.21 | TOR_CNR | and the patrollers thing |
| 15:33.44 | pcj | ooh nice |
| 15:35.59 | TOR_CNR | now... |
| 15:36.04 | TOR_CNR | let's see... |
| 15:37.20 | TOR_CNR | yay :) |
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| 16:09.47 | Kirkburn|afk | TOR_CNR, hello! |
| 16:09.56 | TOR_CNR | hiya :) |
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| 16:10.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Oooh, thanks for doing the bold one especially |
| 16:10.45 | pcj | no, the patrollers especially |
| 16:11.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Can we expect any more awesomeness today? :P |
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| 16:21.53 | |Umbra| | Hmmm...I tried to make the best of the Hit rating infor I could find on the EU boards. |
| 16:22.31 | |Umbra| | Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will expand on the article. |
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| 16:36.12 | |Umbra| | Off to lunch |
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| 17:52.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Maiev_Shadowsong#Alleged_death |
| 17:54.26 | pcj | hmm auctioneer advanced |
| 17:56.53 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Anub%27arak&curid=19200&diff=854419&oldid=763440&rcid=772451 in-game shots are preferred for infoboxes right |
| 17:57.17 | Bagginsww | kirkburn are you really afk? I mean your name is black, :p |
| 17:58.29 | Fisker- | WC3 In-Game shot? |
| 17:58.30 | Fisker- | nah |
| 17:58.32 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 17:58.35 | Fisker- | art = bettar |
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| 18:21.46 | Sky2042_afk | ~wowwiki |
| 18:21.47 | infobot | wowwiki is probably [www.wowwiki.com] the largest World of Warcraft wiki in existence with over 30,000 articles. |
| 18:22.18 | Sky2042_afk | infobot, no, wowwiki is [www.wowwiki.com] the largest Warcraft wiki in existence, with over 40,000 articles. |
| 18:22.19 | infobot | Sky2042_afk: okay |
| 18:26.12 | Fisker- | no! |
| 18:26.40 | Fisker- | wowwiki is [www.wowwiki.com] the largest Warcraft wiki in existence, with over 9,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! articles. |
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| 18:34.17 | pcj | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070831/ap_on_fe_st/odd_et_tu_brutus_1 pwned |
| 18:42.38 | Sky2042 | kirkburn: we can mark our edits as patrolled? |
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| 18:49.02 | Fisker- | xD? |
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| 19:00.58 | |Umbra| | The more 'chance to hit' articles I read, the more my head feels like it's swimming. |
| 19:01.18 | pcj | lol |
| 19:01.27 | pcj | sky: they're automatically marked as patrolled now |
| 19:01.31 | Sky2042 | yeah... talk to blizzard about that :| |
| 19:01.36 | pcj | for patrollers :P |
| 19:01.40 | Sky2042 | pcj: it was bugged previously. which is why i was asking :| |
| 19:01.46 | pcj | yeah it's fixed now |
| 19:02.48 | |Umbra| | Anyone know of a good 'chance to hit' article that may also have blue comments? |
| 19:09.07 | Kalroth | What now? |
| 19:09.17 | Kalroth | oh, my bad, wrong chan :) |
| 19:09.20 | Kalroth | For wiki of course |
| 19:09.35 | Kalroth | I don't think there's any official word on the amount of hit required |
| 19:09.57 | Sky2042 | mmm? yes there is |
| 19:10.01 | Sky2042 | for casters, anyway |
| 19:10.12 | |Umbra| | Yar, I'm looking for melee hits |
| 19:10.27 | Kalroth | There's this one with the basics: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/35215413.htm |
| 19:10.40 | |Umbra| | Thanks, I'll check it out. |
| 19:10.47 | Kalroth | But it's ooold |
| 19:10.51 | Kalroth | almost a year old |
| 19:10.53 | |Umbra| | This 'Hit' article is giving me headaches. |
| 19:11.25 | Kalroth | Well first line isn't correct ;) |
| 19:11.31 | Kalroth | "Hit refers to physical damage that occurs as a result of an attack made with melee or ranged weapons." |
| 19:11.37 | Kalroth | Hit also refers to spells ;) |
| 19:11.52 | |Umbra| | That would be 'Spell hit' ;-) |
| 19:11.59 | |Umbra| | It's a diff mechanic. |
| 19:12.12 | |Umbra| | There is a Hit rating and a Spell hit rating. |
| 19:12.12 | Kalroth | Well shouldn't this be melee hit then? |
| 19:12.16 | Kalroth | True |
| 19:12.29 | |Umbra| | I'm only going by what Blizzard titles them. |
| 19:13.08 | |Umbra| | Hit isn't just melee hit, it's also ranged hit. |
| 19:13.10 | Kalroth | "The base chance to miss with maximum weapon skill against an opponent three levels higher is 6.5% for two handed" I don't believe this is correct |
| 19:13.12 | Kalroth | Yup, I know |
| 19:13.42 | |Umbra| | I wasn't sure about the base chance vs. 3 levels higher either. |
| 19:13.57 | |Umbra| | I got that out of a thread that a blue stickied on the EU forums. |
| 19:14.01 | Kalroth | I'm pretty sure 2H combat shares the same hit as ranged |
| 19:14.04 | Kalroth | hence 8.6% |
| 19:14.13 | Kalroth | for a level 70 vs 73 (boss) |
| 19:14.26 | |Umbra| | Can you explain the math behind it? |
| 19:14.48 | Kalroth | Urgh |
| 19:14.51 | |Umbra| | Hehe |
| 19:14.57 | |Umbra| | Point me to a link that does? |
| 19:15.39 | Kalroth | http://www.blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/286849843.htm This one attempts to explain it, but it links to wowwiki for some information, so it might be circular incorrect ;) |
| 19:18.39 | |Umbra| | Heh, that link is to the post I based the Hit article on. |
| 19:18.48 | Kalroth | lol |
| 19:19.09 | Kalroth | Well it explains it clearly , in my opinion |
| 19:19.17 | Kalroth | There's just a lot of factors to take into account |
| 19:19.33 | |Umbra| | The OP made the statement further down in the thread that chance to miss was 25.5% and 6.5% |
| 19:19.42 | |Umbra| | for opponents 3 levels higher. |
| 19:19.57 | |Umbra| | I'm still trying to find the math. |
| 19:20.01 | Kalroth | He corrected that though |
| 19:20.02 | Kalroth | "Also, i changed the miss chances according to the new Wowwiki information. Previous miss chance was 6.5% for 2h and 25.5% for dw." |
| 19:20.29 | Kalroth | "This means that against a raid boss and assuming that your weapon skill is maxed out for your lvl, 350@70 lvl, your miss chance is 8% if you are a 2hander or 27% if you are dual wielder. " |
| 19:20.40 | |Umbra| | Argh |
| 19:20.50 | |Umbra| | So which is it? |
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| 19:21.11 | |Umbra| | And where does he get the math from? |
| 19:21.13 | Kalroth | ergh, this is the old post |
| 19:21.26 | Kalroth | "1) Raid bosses from what we know so far seem to be 73 lvl so their defence is 365. |
| 19:21.26 | Kalroth | After several tests, it has been proven that the current miss chance against raid bosses is most likely to be 9% if you use 2H or 28% if you dual wield. " |
| 19:21.27 | Kalroth | This one |
| 19:21.47 | |Umbra| | LOL |
| 19:21.52 | |Umbra| | Okies. |
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| 19:22.16 | |Umbra| | But is the chance to miss v. raid boss the same thing as chance to miss an opponent 3 levels higher? |
| 19:22.24 | Kalroth | yes |
| 19:22.26 | ggilbert | yes |
| 19:22.32 | Kalroth | All raid bosses are player level + 3 |
| 19:22.44 | Kalroth | Well all NPCs with the "boss" tag anyways |
| 19:22.45 | |Umbra| | So 9% and 28% you think is correct? |
| 19:23.05 | Kalroth | Yup, I've always gone for 8.6% since hunters proved that a while back |
| 19:23.40 | Kalroth | But the exact math for the 27-28% for DW, I'm not sure about, let me find an EJ post |
| 19:23.41 | |Umbra| | Do you know if 5% and 24% is correct for equal level? |
| 19:24.17 | Kalroth | http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t11885-rogue_warrior_weapon_skill_adjustment_discussion/ |
| 19:28.21 | |Umbra| | Eek, see post #383 for details. |
| 19:33.33 | |Umbra| | Ok, so they got 9% and 28% based on testing, but do not know the math behind it? |
| 19:35.30 | |Umbra| | Did you also say that Ranged is 9%? |
| 19:49.46 | Kalroth | Sorry, I was busy in AV |
| 19:49.56 | Kalroth | Yup, Ranged hit is the same as 2H and special attacks |
| 19:50.22 | Kalroth | Also makes sense in regards of KISS for Blizzard |
| 19:51.38 | Kalroth | 3% of the miss vs a boss is the level/defense difference |
| 19:51.48 | Kalroth | From what I can gather |
| 19:56.41 | Kalroth | Nope, 2% |
| 19:56.54 | Kalroth | 0.1% for the first 1 to 10 points |
| 19:56.59 | Kalroth | then 0.2% for 11 to 15 |
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| 20:19.11 | |Umbra| | Hmmm...that works out to 3% which would be 8% not 9%. |
| 20:19.34 | |Umbra| | Unless the bass is 6% not 5%. |
| 20:19.40 | |Umbra| | *base |
| 20:21.45 | Kurogane | hello any1 can tell what is the program use to see you different faction?? example: i'm horde undead but i want look like a human? |
| 20:23.41 | Kalroth | base is 5% |
| 20:23.54 | Kalroth | a level 70 vs another level 70 will have 5% miss |
| 20:24.23 | |Umbra| | Where does the 4% come from at level 73? |
| 20:24.47 | |Umbra| | I'm not doubting you, just trying to understand it. |
| 20:25.19 | Kalroth | level 70 vs 71 = 0.5% less hit (0.1% per defense skill point) |
| 20:25.26 | Kalroth | level 70 vs 72 = 1.0% less hit (0.1% per defense skill point) |
| 20:25.44 | Kalroth | level 70 vs 73 = 2.0% less hit (now it's 0.2% per defense skill point) |
| 20:25.48 | Kalroth | so there's 2% more |
| 20:26.26 | |Umbra| | Right, so it totals to 3% right? |
| 20:26.36 | Kalroth | Nope, 2% >< |
| 20:26.43 | Kalroth | 0.5% + 0.5% + 1.0% |
| 20:27.06 | |Umbra| | So why are people reporting it as 9%? |
| 20:27.12 | |Umbra| | Sounds more like 7% to me. |
| 20:27.16 | Kalroth | They've tested it ;) |
| 20:27.21 | |Umbra| | hehe. |
| 20:27.41 | |Umbra| | I just can't find the math to back it up. |
| 20:27.54 | Kalroth | You wont find any official numbers |
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| 20:30.45 | |Umbra| | Oh, hmmm...the wiki article on Miss says it's 0.6% per defense point past 10. |
| 20:31.08 | |Umbra| | Which would add up to 4%. |
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| 20:32.01 | Kalroth | Aren't the numbers in the Miss article off by 10? |
| 20:32.12 | |Umbra| | Heh, no idea. |
| 20:32.19 | |Umbra| | No sources or links that I can find. |
| 20:32.24 | Kalroth | well it says 0.01% for the first 10 points |
| 20:32.31 | Kalroth | which is only 0.1% in total :p |
| 20:32.40 | |Umbra| | Oh yes, that is off by a decimal. |
| 20:32.54 | |Umbra| | I think they confused 0.01 with 0.1% |
| 20:33.08 | Kalroth | Same goes for the above numbers 0.04% and 0.02% |
| 20:34.04 | Kalroth | I wonder where it gets that 0.6% number from |
| 20:34.14 | |Umbra| | Well if true, then 0.6% does make sense. |
| 20:34.23 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 20:34.30 | |Umbra| | Since 5 skill would equal 3%. |
| 20:34.34 | Kalroth | (0.1*10)+(0.6*%) |
| 20:34.37 | Kalroth | (0.1*10)+(0.6*5) |
| 20:34.38 | |Umbra| | After the first 10 |
| 20:34.45 | Kalroth | 15 points = 4% |
| 20:34.49 | |Umbra| | Yep |
| 20:35.06 | Kalroth | I just don't hope it's "adjusted" math :) |
| 20:35.14 | |Umbra| | Now if only we could find something to back it up. |
| 20:36.37 | Kalroth | I've seen that number elsewhere though; that 5 points of weaponskill is worth 3% of hit |
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| 20:37.33 | |Umbra| | Well, it would be points 11-15 are worth 3% hit. |
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| 20:38.08 | Kalroth | Actually it's the points 1-5 ;) |
| 20:38.31 | |Umbra| | I thought points 1-5 were worth 1%? |
| 20:38.45 | |Umbra| | Or do you mean v. an equal level opponent? |
| 20:38.50 | Kalroth | it's the difference |
| 20:39.05 | Kalroth | 350 vs 365 = 4% miss |
| 20:39.12 | Kalroth | 355 vs 365 = 1% miss |
| 20:39.19 | Kalroth | 360 vs 365 = 0.5% miss |
| 20:39.31 | |Umbra| | Ah, I see. |
| 20:39.48 | Kalroth | Which makes racials rather good (again :) |
| 20:40.24 | |Umbra| | Yar, and kinda explains that Paladin talent waaay down at the bottom of the prot tree. |
| 20:40.34 | Kalroth | Same for Fury warrior |
| 20:40.38 | |Umbra| | Although it'd be better in the Ret tree. |
| 20:40.49 | Kalroth | Or Arms warrior (though with +skill rather than +hit) |
| 20:41.02 | |Umbra| | Chance to melee hit doesn't mean much in terms of tanking for a Paladin. |
| 20:41.19 | Kalroth | Naw, they prefer +spell damage and +block :) |
| 20:41.31 | |Umbra| | Yep. |
| 20:41.55 | |Umbra| | But a Ret paladin could put that to better use. |
| 20:42.09 | |Umbra| | A Human Ret Paladin specifically. |
| 20:42.31 | |Umbra| | Dunno how the math would work out for a Draenei with the passive +hit aura. |
| 20:42.37 | Kalroth | Just get the weaponskill |
| 20:43.08 | Kalroth | it's +10 weapon skill maxed out |
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| 20:43.24 | Kalroth | which is equal to -3.5% hit |
| 20:43.55 | Kalroth | Assuming you aren't human and using sword/mace |
| 20:44.03 | Kalroth | in which case it's only -1% hit |
| 20:44.07 | |Umbra| | Maybe I should move the base chance to hit paragraph to the Theorycraft section, since we can't find solid sources. |
| 20:44.37 | Kalroth | I think the 5% base is solid |
| 20:44.56 | |Umbra| | 24% for dual wield is solid too>? |
| 20:45.05 | Kalroth | Against an equal level, yes |
| 20:46.29 | Kalroth | http://evilempireguild.org/guides/attacks.php got some very useful information too |
| 20:46.45 | |Umbra| | Oh sweet |
| 20:47.18 | Kalroth | Some solid math on combat table (including +hit) |
| 20:47.46 | Kalroth | And it even links to wowwiki ;) |
| 20:47.49 | |Umbra| | How does this sound? Chance to miss increases by 0.1% for each point of difference up to 10 between attacker weapon skill and mob defense up and then by 0.6% thereafter.? |
| 20:48.20 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 20:49.16 | Kalroth | I don't trust that 0.6% though, but it seems correct for 70 vs 73 |
| 20:49.41 | Kalroth | it's just hard to find proof, since bosses will always be player level + 3 |
| 20:50.02 | Kalroth | So a level 69 wont have 7% miss, he'll still only have 4% (on top of base 5%) |
| 20:50.16 | |Umbra| | I suppose some folks need to do some level 67 v 70 testing. |
| 20:51.21 | |Umbra| | Okies, I think I've done about all I can do to the Hit article. |
| 20:51.33 | |Umbra| | I'll leave it to a future editor to alter. |
| 20:54.22 | |Umbra| | Okies, time to start my weekend. Catch you all later. |
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| 21:32.01 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Var%27thal is Fan fiction right? the edits are all minor and it a a generic story. |
| 21:33.40 | Fisker- | If it's fanfic doesn't it need to be put in the user namespace? |
| 21:35.18 | pcj | No |
| 21:35.25 | pcj | It's been edited by more than one person |
| 21:35.30 | pcj | [[WW:PA]] |
| 21:35.30 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:PA |
| 21:36.51 | Sandwichman2448 | The edits were all minor. |
| 21:38.08 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Trade_Coalition This look right? |
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| 21:55.26 | ws | hmm |
| 21:55.29 | ws | are all night elves pink? |
| 21:55.38 | ws | I am trying to find a skin colour that doesn't contain pink |
| 21:55.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Purple |
| 21:55.57 | ws | it looks okay during character selection, then when I enter the world, they start to look pink |
| 21:56.04 | Sandwichman2448 | Purple |
| 21:56.07 | foxlit | There's some rather pale white as well |
| 21:56.19 | foxlit | Environmental lightning might be at fault there |
| 21:56.29 | foxlit | Get out of Teldrassil, it's all pink there |
| 21:56.39 | ws | ahhh |
| 21:57.01 | ws | I need to try out playing druid a bit :-) |
| 21:57.28 | ws | ahh these colours |
| 21:57.37 | ws | for hair, only white seems to be any choice for me |
| 22:00.45 | ws | amongst all changes wotlk promises to bring, character look, I await customizing look the most, lol |
| 22:00.55 | ws | I can barely stand a non-bald avatar |
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| 22:01.37 | ws | on the other hand, it's amazing how tastes differ |
| 22:01.49 | ws | I mean, people rolling blood elves... come on |
| 22:02.07 | Sandwichman2448 | BIASED! |
| 22:02.22 | ws | yeah, I'm somewhat biased |
| 22:02.32 | ws | 'cause I'm slightly homophobic |
| 22:02.49 | ws | just slightly, no extremes |
| 22:04.12 | ws | only tauren and gnomes are macho |
| 22:04.20 | ws | I play gnomes |
| 22:05.16 | Sandwichman2448 | I wrote an anthen for them. |
| 22:05.22 | Sandwichman2448 | *Anthem |
| 22:06.40 | dreamss2 | hey |
| 22:06.44 | dreamss2 | what boss order for ssc? |
| 22:06.58 | ws | the problem with most races is that nature really hurt them and made them improportionally sized.. some of these folks project their frustration for this by trying to ballbust us gnomes.... we've even tried to help them with "world enlarger", but well... |
| 22:07.24 | Sandwichman2448 | Hydross the Unstable |
| 22:07.24 | Sandwichman2448 | The Lurker Below |
| 22:07.24 | Sandwichman2448 | Leotheras the Blind |
| 22:07.24 | Sandwichman2448 | Fathom-Lord Karathress |
| 22:07.24 | Sandwichman2448 | Morogrim Tidewalker |
| 22:07.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Lady Vashj |
| 22:07.36 | Sandwichman2448 | That what it says. |
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| 22:08.31 | ws | to be honest, I am not sure if you're referring to the lore, or it's me being really new to the game |
| 22:08.39 | ws | or simply my bad english |
| 22:08.43 | SandwichmanAFK | What? |
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| 22:08.57 | ws | Hydross, Leotheras, etc. |
| 22:09.05 | dreamss2 | ahh nm |
| 22:09.05 | SandwichmanAFK | That was the order. |
| 22:09.07 | ws | ah, lol |
| 22:09.09 | dreamss2 | wiki now says the order |
| 22:09.13 | ws | lol, okay |
| 22:09.16 | dreamss2 | good order for progression would be Morogrim Tidewalker -> Fathom-Lord Karathress -> The Lurker Below -> Hydross the Unstable -> Leotheras the Blind ->Lady Vashj. |
| 22:09.27 | SandwichmanAFK | Then it was wrong? |
| 22:09.30 | SandwichmanAFK | Lame. |
| 22:11.14 | SandwichmanAFK | I g2g for a bit. Hence the AFK. |
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| 23:00.47 | Sandwichman2448 | What did I miss? |
| 23:08.49 | dreamss2 | im naked |
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| 23:09.37 | Sandwichman2448 | ok. |
| 23:21.44 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZarnks&diff=854845&oldid=854784 OH! |
| 23:25.01 | Sandwichman2448 | See that? |
| 23:25.10 | Sandwichman2448 | It is his page... |
| 23:35.11 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Foodpower Umm... |
| 23:35.57 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Stormscale |
| 23:36.03 | Sandwichman2448 | US or EU? |
| 23:41.07 | pcj | disambig |
| 23:41.32 | pcj | thraebot: c us stormscale Muffinpower |
| 23:41.40 | ThraeBot | pcj: Muffinpower, Level 70 Gnome Mage (40/21/0). 6353 HP; 10001 Mana; 146 mana regen; 24 mp5; 214 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 450 +spell dmg/heal; 134 frost dmg (584); 234 arcane dmg (684); 278 fire dmg (728); 5.1% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10); +10 all resists (+10 arcane);[[ TBR: 1610 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2edt5f ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2w3ep2 ][ Updated: Fri Aug 31 19:52:21 2007 ]] |
| 23:41.41 | Sandwichman2448 | What? No, what should it be a subpage of? |
| 23:41.43 | pcj | US |
| 23:41.51 | Sandwichman2448 | Thanks |
| 23:42.32 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Stormscale_US/Foodpower |
| 23:42.58 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Trade_Coalition How is this? |
| 23:43.07 | Sandwichman2448 | I should cite it. |
| 23:44.01 | Sandwichman2448 | K |
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| 23:47.40 | Sandwichman2448 | Hello |
