IRC log for #wowwiki on 20071008

00:23.43piuthe new gamestop commercials are kinda clever
00:45.44piugrr. wiki slow
01:06.12Kirkburn|afkAFKDuTempete, you are awesome :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU
01:06.29AFKDuTempeteI know.
01:06.34Kirkburn|afkModest, too
01:06.41AFKDuTempeteBut, Kirkburn|afk, so are you. :)
01:06.53Kirkburn|afkModest, or awesome? :P
01:07.15AFKDuTempeteBoth!
01:07.36AFKDuTempeteYou have one up on me, not that I'm striving for modesty, anyway.
01:08.20Kirkburn|afk=)
01:11.11Kirkburn|afkHeh, spot the error - http://www.carbinestudios.com/downloads/images/desktopB1280X800.jpg
01:11.29Kirkburn|afkIt's quite a major error
01:12.34foxlitBut how do you know it's an error, rather than an intentional feature?
01:14.27Kirkburn|afkBecause, er, it's physically almost impossible
01:14.42Kirkburn|afkHint, look at the grass
01:15.00foxlitSo what if the wind blows in different directions at different distances
01:15.02foxlitHappens.
01:15.09Kirkburn|afkAnd the flag?
01:15.19foxlitMeh
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01:15.34foxlitStill not an error.
01:15.46foxlitBut to explain why, we'll have to find a field
01:16.20Kirkburn|afkI don't think it's entirely normal to paint such very specific wind conditions
01:16.38Kirkburn|afkRather, I think he just went for "cool" over attention to detail
01:20.10piuwho says the tauren didn't just swing that polearm forward
01:20.46piuOK, the smoke doesn't match the grass either
01:20.50foxlitGrass can also bend under its own weight.
01:21.05foxlitSo assume wind blows to the right, and grass is indifferent to it.
01:23.30Kirkburn|afkApple Gaming System: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=05h2VagnMs0 :)
01:24.12Kirkburn|afkThat's stupid grass, foxlit :P
01:27.30piua wizard did it?
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01:38.41smoothierevevening all
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01:53.54MenuetHi, I'm looking to talk to an admin or moderator.
01:54.32piuI didn't do it
01:54.53MenuetNahh. You didn't do anything :)
01:55.02piu*whew*
01:55.48MenuetI just need some clarification.
01:57.15piuwell if no admin speaks up maybe we can still help?
01:58.27MenuetI'm just having an issue on a specific page where my own edits are being edited out and, I'd like them to remain considering they are about myself.
01:58.44piuwhat page?
01:59.24piuthe rule is you can't revert a page to a certain version three times in a day
02:00.00MenuetThe WoW Radio page. Old shows to be specific. The first entry was an inaccurate description. I edited it to be accurate and added a link to where the new site is (the previous edit had the wrong url).
02:00.52MenuetIt was edited again, removing some things. Luckily, another person put the previous edit back.
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02:02.42Kirkburn|afkLinks?
02:02.59Menuethttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoW_Radio/OldShows&action=history
02:03.08Jachel292What?
02:04.08Kirkburn|afkEmtee?
02:04.16Kirkburn|afkOh, right
02:04.17MenuetNo. Ohnoes.
02:04.23Menuetcheck your pm :)
02:04.56Jachel292I really wish I knew what was going on.
02:05.38MenuetJust needed some clarification on editing. A post regarding me was edited and I'd like to see it remain with my own description considering I probably know what's accurate and what isn't :)
02:06.36Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Ohnoes#WoW_Radio_page_links
02:06.43Jachel292I dunno, I just joined WOWWiki. The only Article I really made was the Toyota Truck one.
02:06.50Kirkburn|afkJachel292, welcome :)
02:07.00Jachel292Thanks.
02:07.09MenuetThat was a funny commercial
02:07.14Jachel292Agree'd
02:08.13Kirkburn|afkAnyone know if it has an official name?
02:08.22MenuetThank you, Kirkburn. A couple of other people involved in this appreciate that too.
02:08.30Jachel292What had an official name?
02:08.43MenuetThe commercial? I don't think so. It was aired during a football game I think.
02:09.20Jachel292Yeah, I got a link.
02:09.29MenuetA blogger called it "Toyotacraft" but I doubt that's official.
02:09.38Kirkburn|afkIt should be under whatever it is best known by
02:09.39MenuetIt aired during the Georgia/TN football game this week.
02:10.06Kirkburn|afkI personally would go for "Four wheels of fury" :)
02:10.18MenuetThat or "I'm the lawgiver"
02:10.33Jachel292I want a truck as a mount. I mean seriously, IT CAN KILL A DRAGON! D:
02:11.31MenuetWhere's the wiki article on the commercial, Jachel?
02:11.38Jachel292http://www.wowwiki.com/Toyota
02:12.48Jachel292Pretty blank, but thats because I'm still new to editing Wiki's. The only thing I ever did before was edit one word from Wikipedia.
02:13.13Sky2042jump right on in!
02:13.16Sky2042:)
02:13.58Jachel292I still can't help but laugh at FOUR WHEELS OF FURY!
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02:20.23Jachel292Really died here now.
02:20.48pcjI shot the #wowwiki, but I did not shoot the #wowhead
02:20.57piuthis channel has spurts of activity
02:21.03Kirkburn|sleepOnly 399 tickets to go ><
02:21.03Sky2042pcj: lol
02:21.06piumost people just idle
02:21.08Sky2042Kirkburn|sleep: huh?
02:21.10Sky2042oh
02:21.21Jachel292I need more tickets too. I only got 149 ;-;
02:21.42Kirkburn|sleepI already have a ram, but I want another
02:22.09Kirkburn|sleepOnly got 6 rides in my bag, need more :P
02:22.25Kirkburn|sleepCan you imagine what that would look like?
02:22.31pcjI can
02:22.36pcjI have 8
02:22.38Jachel292Man, whats worse is I only have like 3g.
02:22.46Sky2042Kirkburn|sleep: the "Block log" page needs updating, since you changed the name of the page.
02:22.50Kirkburn|sleepYeah, er, here's my ram, my elekk, my gryphon, my other gyphon, my talbuk and my saber
02:23.06Jachel292But your an alliance!
02:23.09Sky2042to "WoWWiki:Violations" apparently.
02:23.27MenuetThere you go, Jachel I found a script for the commercial.
02:23.32MenuetPut it on the page for ya.
02:23.32pcjCouple paladin horses, couple regular human horses, a pvp mount or two, my normal flying mount, my normal epic flying mount, my nether drake, my nether ray, my talbuk
02:24.48Jachel292I feel like such a noob only being level 43.
02:25.34MenuetAnd I am going to head out. Shalom all, nice talking to you. See you on the wiki :)
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02:28.10Sky2042is it just me, or does the human in the toyota commercial sound like leeroy jenkins when he says "let's do this"?
02:28.36Kirkburn|sleepI think that's the point :P
02:29.13Jachel292Thats whaat I thought.
02:29.36Jachel292But it proves that Warlocks/Mages are OP :P
02:29.47Sky2042lol?....
02:29.56Sky2042pft
02:30.08Jachel292Hopefully no one took that seriously.
02:30.30Jachel292ARGH, I'M BLEEDING D:
02:31.00Kirkburn|sleepK, given it a spring cleaning - http://www.wowwiki.com/Toyota
02:31.54Kirkburn|sleepI think it's better to move it to Four wheel of fury?
02:31.55Jachel292Thanks
02:32.28Jachel292Not sure. Guess its up to you.
02:32.43Kirkburn|sleepBe bold, they say, so I shall :P Just cause it'll make for a simpler introduction
02:35.15Kirkburn|sleepTadaa :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Four_Wheels_of_Fury
02:35.18Kirkburn|sleepAnd now I'm off to bed
02:35.25Jachel292Night
02:35.26Kirkburn|sleepThanks for starting the article Jachel292 :)
02:35.35Jachel292thanks for helping it :)
02:36.00Sky2042it personally looked liek a bare durid to me, but maybe i'm blind.
02:36.07Kirkburn|sleepWith a bow?
02:36.22Jachel292Yeah, I think it was a hunter... With a mans voice...
02:37.02Sky2042Kirkburn|sleep: was referring to the "heart"
02:37.09Kirkburn|sleepah
02:37.20Jachel292Ah.
02:38.12Kirkburn|sleepSome kind of bear-stegadon hybrid
02:38.14piuthe video link cuts off the actual advertisement portion of the video at the end
02:38.37Jachel292After rewatching it, I stand by it being a heart.
02:38.38piuyou'd never know it's a toyota
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02:38.59Jachel292I stil want a Toyota Mount
02:39.09Sky2042lol
02:39.12Jachel292I mean seriously, how awesome would that be?
02:39.19Kirkburn|sleepJachel292, oh, I do believe it to represent the heart, we're wondering what the model is :P
02:41.30Jachel292Then I'm not sure.
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03:01.20pcjding honored timbermaw hold lol
03:02.06Jachel292Grats lol
03:03.41piuwhat's the rep increase?
03:03.50piuhow much did they increase it
03:04.00pcji think 30%
03:05.17piuhow much rep per teddy bear then?
03:06.28pcj2 on kill, then 150 on the turn ins
03:08.22Kirkburn|sleepRep increase is everything doubled
03:08.59Kirkburn|sleep30% is the upcoming quest/xp increase
03:09.35pcjah
03:09.45Kirkburn|sleepAnd is also why my blood elf is still level 21 :P
03:14.42Fisker-i have to attack
03:15.42BibiFisker-
03:15.49Bibiwhy do we have more and more insta respawn servers ?
03:15.50Bibisrsly.
03:16.46Fisker-dunno
03:16.52Fisker-you suck at finding servers perhaps?
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03:25.14Jachel292Yay, my troll warrior dinged 2 :P
03:27.27Sky2042ho boy, an accomplishment that.
03:27.40Sky2042;p
03:27.43Jachel292Sure is
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04:36.36pcjsoloing fel reavers ftw
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05:49.12[NewsBot]MMO Champion: PTR, unreleased content, comics - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1561.0
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06:26.42[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Facing Death, Games Prof Gives Last Lecture - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/08/facing-death-carnegie-mellon-prof-gives-last-lecture/
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06:55.09Fisker--haha Kirkburn|sleep
06:55.11Fisker--i own you
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07:40.48hmZ_ArchПошли все нахуй
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07:41.58BagginswwOk what's the official way to add GNU rights to a wikipedia?
07:42.17hmZ_ArchBagginsww ты лилипут-глюконавт
07:42.26Bagginswwhuh?
07:42.42hmZ_Archну ты такой лох Bagginsww что свет не видал
07:42.58hmZ_ArchЧёта Bagginsww нынче грустный - видно хуй сосал невкусный.
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07:43.14Bagginswwspeak english or I'll kick you in the butt ;)
07:43.35Kasoor at least use UTF-8 encoding!
07:46.39[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Cathedral Official Angered by Award Nomination for Resistance - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/08/cathedral-official-angered-by-award-nomination-for-resistance/
07:46.42[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Police Chief: Clear Link Between Gangs & Violent Video Games - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/08/police-chief-clear-link-between-gangs-violent-video-games/
07:48.20BagginswwSo Kaso do you know anything about GFDL, GNU Free Documenation Licensing?
07:49.47KasoOnly what wikipedia tells me im afraid
07:54.32Bagginswwahh
08:06.23Fisker--Kirkburn|sleep :(
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08:45.12[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Leveling Improvements for Patch 2.3 - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1564.0
08:48.39[NewsBot]World of Raids: Leveling Improvements for Patch 2.3 - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-7890-1.html
08:50.21winkillerlol
08:50.34winkillerMANY NEWS today!
09:02.48[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Azeroth Interrupted: Using WoW to teach children values - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/azeroth-interrupted-using-wow-to-teach-children-values/
09:06.36[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Faith Community Debates Halo 3 Youth Ministry - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/08/faith-community-debates-halo-3-youth-ministry/
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09:39.18BagginswwIs mangletooth ever released from his cage?
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09:51.01Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Annihilan
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10:47.12winkillermhm, few changes recently
10:47.31winkillermy watchlist used to explode
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11:25.23Kirkburn|sleepnarp
11:36.42Kirkburn"60 new quests in Dustwallow Marsh" :O
11:44.17KirkburnBibi, about the sound fixes, he may be referring to them actually talking to Creative now
11:47.14BibiKirkburn : actually, he even said two blue posts earlier that they would add a 2.2.4 if needed
11:47.25Bibibut I needed something to fill the incredible blank of this news.
11:47.27Bibi:D
11:48.15Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#WoW_Radio_page >_>
11:48.48KirkburnBibi, relevant link - http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=107280#M107280
11:49.12KirkburnMight be newsworthy, thougha  few days old
11:49.33Bibiwould have been useful this morning :p
11:49.59Bibianyway, I hate you Kirkburn
11:50.07BibiI used to enjoy my life, without even knowing what portal was
11:50.12Bibiand now i'm waiting for it, like all the others :/
11:52.06Kirkburnlol
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12:06.23[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Favorite type of PvP - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/breakfast-topic-favorite-type-of-pvp/
12:11.58Bibifavorite type of PvP ?
12:12.03Bibithe RP PvP of course.
12:12.38foxlitHm
12:12.57foxlitRight aligned navboxes on top of pages vs navboxes at the bottom
12:13.09foxlitDiscuss.
12:17.47KirkburnMajor wide-ranging stuff at the bottom
12:17.50Kirkburn[[WW:MOS]]
12:17.50[NewsBot]Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:MOS
12:18.10foxlitThinking of moving {{professions}} down
12:18.27KirkburnStuff you're actually likely to be navigation through specifically makes more sense to be high up
12:18.37KirkburnSeems reasonable
12:18.39foxlitThere are some awkward moments on [[Tailoring]], and I'd generally like to include a picture in the lead in of [[Fishing]]
12:19.18KirkburnJust took a look at the page, definately looks reasonable
12:19.25Kirkburn(to change it)
12:20.55KirkburnNothing beats the awesomeness of http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Blackrock_Depths :P
12:21.15foxlitHaha
12:22.12KirkburnI've never seen half of those NPCs
12:22.57foxlitOne thing bugs me about our navboxes - they have no [edit] link
12:23.17KirkburnTis true
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12:38.23[NewsBot]WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: Rocket Boots, part 2 -
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13:03.24[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Raid consumables for Priests & Druids - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/raid-consumables-for-priests-and-druids/
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14:14.49[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Moon over Ratchet - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/around-azeroth-moon-over-ratchet/
14:32.18pcjgah
14:32.40pcjcan someone go to http://www.wowwiki.com/Mount and tell me if the hover tooltip for Ashes of Al'ar is working
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14:38.49[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Rogue tanking? Get ready to Parry! Dodge! Spin! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/rogue-tanking-get-ready-to-parry-dodge-spin/
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14:39.26pcjugh wowinsider just reached a new low
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15:02.49[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Officers' Quarters: Dark pacts, Part 2 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/officers-quarters-dark-pacts-part-2/
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15:13.45pcjAnyone have any idea why hover tooltips don't work for {{loot|Epic|Ashes of Al'ar}}?
15:14.40lprichnope
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15:23.21foxlitDidn't you write that script?
15:24.00pcjYes
15:24.14foxlitShouldn't you know what can go wrong? :)
15:25.19pcjYes, pretty much
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15:34.52[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Life after Warcraft for one of its most venerable podcasts - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/life-after-warcraft-for-one-of-its-most-venerable-podcasts/
15:46.50Kirkburnpcj, the apostrophe?
15:46.55pcjNope
15:47.00pcjDeathcharger's Reins works
15:47.23pcjFiery Warhorse's Reins doesn't work either though
15:50.09pcjI need a Foxbot!
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15:51.04Kirkburnpcj, can't see any change ><
15:51.49pcjExactly, no idea what's going on
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16:08.22foxlit"I've been working on a way to transport oil underground between major cities, but everyone tells me it's a pipe dream"
16:08.34Kirkburn><
16:08.58KirkburnOddly enough I am currently working on the BioShock wiki, which has a pipe dream minigame
16:09.53lprichpipe dream as in the old windows game where you laid pipes like tetris style before the green goo started flowing?
16:10.27foxlitNo, pipe dream as in the english expression.
16:10.30foxlitThe goblin is playing on words
16:10.39Kirkburnlprich, yup :P
16:10.53foxlitthe hacking game in Bioshock is a bit meh
16:11.39foxlitespecially because since about half way through the game there's virtually no penalty for overloading/triggering alarms on a safe/camera/turret
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16:12.21foxlitwowhead is broken?
16:12.39lprichthe DB is down
16:12.47lprichTheir working on it.
16:12.52lpricherr, They're
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16:13.04foxlitAh well, who needs them anyway
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16:23.12foxlitHm, here's an interesting debate point: skill levelling in fishing isn't random.
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16:29.13lprichhmm. is that to say that it is no more random than levelling any crafting skill?
16:29.30lprichmeaning, if you catch something in an area that is 'brown' to your fishing skill, it will level up a point?
16:30.01Kasofishing is something like exactly 8 casts per fishing level
16:30.04Kasono randomness
16:30.12Kaso(8 number was guessed, not sure what it really is)
16:31.32Fisker-i am proud
16:36.04foxlitI agree with Kaso, tbh
16:36.18foxlitThere seems to be a specific number of caught fish required to get to a specific skill level
16:36.30foxlitThe only randomness is whether you manage to catch a fish or not.
16:36.33Kasomm
16:37.06Kasothough to be honest, the challenege with fishing is wether you can actually get to the 10,000 clicks or whatever without going insane
16:39.58lprichI dunno, I went up a point per fish in some areas.
16:40.15lprichLike if an area is too high for you to fish normal, but you can fish it with shiny baubles or whatever
16:40.25lprichyou will go up a point every time you catch something
16:40.27foxlitIprich: coincidentally, did that occur at lower fishing skill levels?
16:40.29Kasothats not low level fishing is it?
16:41.05lprichit did, in point of fact...
16:41.56foxlitThe number of fish / skill point increases as fishing skill increases
16:42.30lprichIs it similar for all professions now?
16:42.50lprichLike, alchemy for example?
16:42.58foxlitNo
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16:43.14foxlitI'm mainly asking because I'm currently rewriting [[Fishing]] :)
16:43.26lprichHmm. I think we need some ground truth on this.
16:44.27lprichI just find it hard to believe that bliz would have a different algorithm for fishing than the rest of the professions... but it's been forever since I had a character with higher level fishing.
16:48.01pcjthere are only two other gathering professions
16:48.14pcji don't see why they couldn't have different algorithms
16:55.44lprichSure, they could.. But it's a lot more work.
16:57.20pcjI know in mining yellow/orange nodes give 1 point
16:57.42pcjHerbalism has to be different than mining because miners get multiple ores from one node
17:02.15lprichNope, herbalism is pretty much the same..
17:02.15lprichif it's orange, you get a oint
17:02.15lprichpoint
17:02.15lprichif it's yellow, you probably, but not necessarily get a point
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17:05.04TOR_CNRaloha
17:05.29pcjhullo
17:05.53TOR_CNRnew namespaces coming up
17:06.15pcjwhich ones
17:06.34TOR_CNRthe ones you guys asked for :) Guild and Server
17:07.15pcjAh, ok
17:12.51[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Leveling improvements for Patch 2.3 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/leveling-improvements-for-patch-2-3/
17:13.19Kasohttp://www.autoblog.com/photos/yamaha-tesseract-concept-2/428182/full/
17:13.21Kasoi want one
17:19.24TOR_CNRGuilds done, going for servers
17:19.51OreeKaso: Nice! I guess it will sorta tilt like a bike when you.. tilt it?
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17:20.28Kasopresumably, havent seen anything like in in action
17:20.43Kasobut hell even if it only went straight foward i'd still want one, looks so pretty
17:21.19OreeAnd somewhere in there fits two different engines, one gasoline of undisclosed size and another electrical (to dual impress biker chicks and eco babes [.....]
17:21.30Oree;)
17:21.39OreeMm, true
17:22.22Oreehaha - "We're also hoping to see the Tesseract transform into a Gundam robot and fulfill its true destiny."
17:22.54Kasohaha
17:23.17Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Dalaran#Split.3F
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17:34.41Bagginswwso ya did you know that Dalaran has been Independent since before World of Warcraft?
17:35.02BagginswwIt was independent as far back as Lands of Conflict.
17:36.05pcjwho are you talking to
17:36.19Kasothe channel i guess
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17:36.51KasoBagginsww, what about the all those dalaran magi i massacred when i was low level?
17:36.59Kasosurely that'd have pissed them off a little
17:37.01Bagginswwwho knows aobut them
17:37.20Bagginswwbut you know you'll ber spending alot of time in their city once it moves to Northrend right?
17:37.36Bagginswwand people claim humans can't forgive ;)
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17:38.25KasoPerhaps they wanted those guys killing, thats why the shovved them outside the shield
17:38.35BagginswwLOL
17:38.42Kasooh he, bob, why dont you go guard the area outside, ya, see you later !
17:39.14BagginswwWell you know Ansirem Runeweaver? One of the guys standing otuside the shiield?
17:39.16foxlitThe low-level guards are irrelevant anyway
17:39.33BagginswwHe is actually the previous ruler of Dalaran
17:39.57BagginswwRhonin has taken over apparently
17:40.02TOR_CNRKirkburn: help? :)
17:40.04foxlitNot like level-appropriate NPCs could walk though the shield anyway, and anyone with enough interest in getting through it would not be stopped by the low-level wizards guarding it
17:40.20KirkburnHey TOR_CNR
17:40.46Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Church_of_the_Holy_Light note the bit that Church of the Holy Light is open to any Horde member who wants to join :)
17:40.50TOR_CNRKirkburn: on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Namespaces#Conclusion -- by "Please ensure that these pages are not considered content pages by the wiki." did you guys mean the talk pages (which is pretty obvious ;)) or the Guild: and Server: nses as well?
17:41.14Bagginswwmore evidence that the Alliance can be just as forgiving as the Horde ;)
17:41.34KirkburnThe Guild and Server ones
17:41.43TOR_CNROK, fine
17:41.59KirkburnBtw, I was talking about a different wiki on #wikia :P
17:42.11TOR_CNRKirkburn: I know :P
17:42.16KirkburnGood, good :)
17:42.30KirkburnSo, you have a plan for the namespaces?
17:42.40TOR_CNRKirkburn: they're already live
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17:42.50Kirkburn:O
17:43.15KirkburnSo I see
17:43.37KirkburnSo, er, what's our plan?
17:44.12TOR_CNRregarding?
17:44.16pcj!jobqueue
17:44.17KirkburnWait, they're already done?
17:44.18[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 4 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 4secs.
17:44.18KirkburnWow
17:44.35KirkburnHow did you pull that one off?!
17:44.37pcjThe links to my server are all red now
17:44.51Kirkburne.g.?
17:45.10KirkburnNot seeing problems on the server list page
17:45.14pcjNvm, fixed it
17:45.32TOR_CNRKirkburn: 4 update queries to the db and 4 lines in LocalSeetings. easy ;)
17:45.58KirkburnHoly awesomeness :P
17:46.13KirkburnMethinks a Village Pump post is in order
17:46.22KirkburnAny other stuff you got planned today? :)
17:48.04TOR_CNRlet's see...
17:50.33TOR_CNRI'll look into the Project: problem, don't know if it's fixable on the spot, though. never seen that happen on any wiki.
17:50.44KirkburnProject problem?
17:50.48KirkburnOh, that
17:50.54KirkburnI fixed the broken links anyway
17:52.17KirkburnI haven't seen any change from your block changes btw - what should I have seen?
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17:52.35pcjWhy aren't extensions put in? It seems like those would be the easiest of all to install
17:52.42KirkburnServer load
17:52.56KirkburnThough I don't know what the situation with that is atm
17:52.59pcjSo why even have a spot to request them
17:53.15KirkburnServers get optimised and added :)
17:53.16TOR_CNRpcj: cause they will be added
17:53.41KirkburnPlus, it gives TOR something to worry about :P
17:53.54TOR_CNR...like I need more worries, heh :P
17:54.44pcjhmm shouldn't WW:VIO redirect to WoWWiki:Violations instead of WoWWiki:Policy/Violation
17:54.44TOR_CNRseriously, though, I could probably give you the dismissable sitenotice thingy. that's pretty light.
17:54.59KirkburnI'd love that
17:55.14KirkburnGood way of announcing stuff like the hover tooltips
17:55.22pcjthe what?
17:55.34KirkburnChocolate fish bunnies
17:55.45pcjOh, didn't notice them every time I moused over loot links
17:55.56Kirkburn>_<
17:57.08Fisker-hahhaharharhahrarharh Kirkburn
17:57.17Fisker-i think i can get 12 kegs on my next run
17:57.18Fisker-pwnt etc.
17:57.30KirkburnYeah, I've come damn close
17:57.42KirkburnJust use the middle keg
17:57.57Kirkburnapple thing I mean
17:58.11Fisker-:o?
17:58.27KirkburnAre we talking Dun Morogh, firstly?
17:58.38KirkburnYou don't need the one in the tent, certainly
17:58.54pcjYeah, the one at the road fork is all you need really
17:58.55KirkburnAnd with good timing and use of the whip, you can even avoid the one past Kharanos
17:59.15KirkburnAbsolutely not a good idea if you have *any* lag problems though
17:59.30Fisker-nope
17:59.34Fisker-talking horde
17:59.44pcjWell, that's dumb
17:59.59KirkburnStupid hordites
18:00.02TOR_CNRhere goes...
18:00.34Fisker-<-simpsons/family guy/etc. tiem
18:01.13lprichFOR THE HORDE!
18:01.39lprichsorry... tourettes
18:02.14TOR_CNRha! works like a charm ;)
18:02.31KirkburnMore, more!
18:02.40pcjHarder, faster!
18:02.43TOR_CNRI think that's enough for today :P
18:03.14KirkburnEep, clashed with the top right notice, will have to play with that
18:03.21KirkburnThanks TOR :)
18:03.26TOR_CNRno prob
18:03.56pcjHeh, there's no way to get it back once you dismiss it
18:03.57Kaydeethree"Dismissable SiteNotice test. Your friendly tech support guy says "Hello!" ;)"
18:04.17Gryphenwhy would you dismiss it if you want it back?
18:04.31TOR_CNRpcj: I believe it shows up again if somebody edits it
18:04.35KirkburnSo he can see what I just mentioned :P
18:04.39pcjWell, I was just going to see what happened if I dismissed it
18:04.59TOR_CNRpcj: that way you only see each msg once
18:05.25lprich"...But what I really want to know is, are you gonna go my way?..."
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18:08.51[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Patch 2.3: A buff for feral druids - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/patch-2-3-a-buff-for-feral-druids/
18:10.40KirkburnQuick request!
18:10.43KirkburnHow does http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev2 look?
18:10.56KirkburnI just fiddled it to get it to work with the notice
18:11.10KirkburnI can only view it *with* the notice though (until I turn it off)
18:11.22pcjPage is too wide
18:11.36Kirkburneh?
18:12.17pcjBe sure to fix http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Contribs too
18:13.00KirkburnSo that's an "it looks fine"?
18:13.30pcjYes, it does
18:13.34KirkburnCool
18:13.41KirkburnWill look at those another time
18:13.50KirkburnRequires double div-ing
18:14.02KirkburnUnless someone else want to do them first :)
18:14.06lprichDamn people that put the time on their hands to good use, or at least to some use...
18:14.18lprich<-- has a serious lack of motivation
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18:15.49KirkburnYay at forgetting my subpage design wouldn't come out identical ><
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18:19.48KirkburnTesting a new bite :)
18:19.50Kirkburn*news
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18:20.04pcjhah new sitenotice doesn't show up after dismiss
18:21.08Kirkburnpcj, oh?
18:21.12pcjOh.
18:21.36KirkburnThere's probably a timelimit
18:21.52Kirkburn(so that multiple edits don't keep make it appearing)
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18:23.24pcj<pcj> if (cookieValue != siteNoticeID) {
18:23.25pcj<pcj> I don't know what siteNoticeID is in relation to
18:23.25pcj<pcj> Or if it's changed
18:25.11pcjhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sitenotice_id
18:25.18pcj"Registered users can hide the site notice by clicking "[dismiss]". To show the site notice again for those users, increment the number in MediaWiki:Sitenotice id."
18:25.46KirkburnOnly registred users can hide it??
18:25.58pcjidk, that's what it says
18:28.22KirkburnDoes it show now?
18:29.48pcjyes
18:30.39KirkburnChecked, indeed you can't dismiss when logged out, thus we can't leave the stuff up tooo long
18:32.56pcjApparently MediaWiki:Anonnotice only applies for logged off users
18:33.08pcjSo you could just make that blank and have it not display
18:33.30pcjIn theory
18:39.27pcjOh
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18:55.12KirkburnWe don't have anon users :P
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18:56.15pcjDon't have anon editors
18:56.18pcjWe have anon readers :P
18:56.32KirkburnThis is true
18:56.33JaciiI was one of them :p
18:56.44KirkburnYou are indeed correct pcj :)
18:57.17KirkburnMebbe the anonnotice should be "get a bloody account!"
18:57.22pcjHeh
18:58.23pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Saurfang_facts is mostly edited by one/two people and really isn't notable...
18:59.21Kirkburn:)
18:59.37JaciiI forgot about that page.
19:00.50KeolahI don't have a bloody account. I'll need to wait until my next period to make one. ;p
19:01.47pcjOr you could just take a knife, cut the palm of your hand, and rub it all over the account
19:02.15KeolahThat'd hurt though.
19:03.34pcjNot if you do it right
19:05.40[NewsBot]WoW Insider: The dark legacy of engineering mounts - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/the-dark-legacy-of-engineering-mounts/
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19:28.49pcjhaha soloed a fel reaver
19:37.14Demonajhsfbkfg
19:37.17DemonI hate you mirc
19:39.28lprichirssi ftw
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19:54.49bleeteronly when run inside screen(1)
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20:09.38[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Is Brewfest easier for Alliance? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/is-brewfest-easier-for-alliance/
20:31.07JaciiHmm.
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20:51.16bleeterooh, here's a song for Kirkburn
20:51.32bleeterthough I wish he'd called it 'boobies and bear'
20:51.42bleeters/bear/bare/
20:51.56bleeterbag
20:52.01bleeterBAH
20:52.04bleeter~fail bleeter
20:52.04infobotbleeter: Fail.
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20:56.52KirkburnMerf
20:57.52JaciiMerf?
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20:59.16Chaos:D there's people here
20:59.16KirkburnJacii, yes indeed :P
20:59.16KirkburnWelcome, Chaos
20:59.16JaciiHeya
20:59.29KirkburnThere's always people here, we're just a quiet bunch
21:00.28Fisker-oh lawd Kirkburn
21:00.31Fisker-http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/08/is-brewfest-easier-for-alliance/
21:00.41Fisker-12. OMG WOW Insider perpetuates the stupidest freaking rumors.
21:00.41Fisker-Maybe Horde players just need to try a little harder and stop bitching so much.
21:00.42Fisker-yes
21:01.06Fisker-because maybe, just MAYBE, 0 horde being able to get more than 13 tickets have something to say when several alliance n00bs can get 16
21:01.08Chaoswhat?
21:01.13Chaoswhat do you got against horde?
21:01.14Fisker-s/tickets/kegs/
21:01.21Fisker-Chaos nothing
21:01.21ChaosLOK TAR OGAR!
21:01.29Fisker-IT IS SOME N00B SAYING IT IN THE ARTICLE
21:01.37Fisker-he says that horde should just l2p
21:01.40Fisker-tickets are fien
21:01.42Fisker-kthx
21:01.42bleetersomeone needs to set up wowqq.com
21:01.53Chaoshell my friends and I even greet each other in orcish in real life
21:02.02Fisker-i got better stuff to QQ about bleeter
21:02.09JaciiLike?
21:02.18Kirkburn16?
21:02.39KirkburnThat's not possible :/
21:02.45Fisker-definitely it is
21:02.48Jaciiyes it is.
21:02.48ChaosI didn't know there was a place where other people that played WoW would congregate OUTSIDE of WoW
21:02.48Fisker-if not you suck
21:02.58Fisker-because the biggest n00b of all times can do it
21:03.00Fisker-so can you
21:03.06JaciiYou could always scream in the fourms locks are OP
21:03.14bleeterLOCKS ARE OP
21:03.15Chaoswhat does OP mean?
21:03.15Kaydeethreewowqq.com just needs to be a redirect to wow general
21:03.20JaciiOverpowered
21:03.22ChaosI heard it earlier and people just laughed when I asked
21:03.23Kaydeethreein this case: overpowered
21:03.27Chaosah
21:03.38Kaydeethreeit can also mean original poster if you're referring to the thread starter
21:03.38Fisker-i'm just pissed i couldn't get my ram the first day
21:03.53Chaoswell I think druids are UP (underpowered) ( I just made it up) but they're still my class of choice
21:03.55JaciiI'm pissed, I only have 178 tickets today
21:04.07Chaosare the rams better than lvl40 mounts?
21:04.15Jaciiand my computer is such a piece of crap that I can't do the bark quest
21:04.18Chaosthey get tired real fast and then just move real slow forever
21:04.24Chaosno the bark quest is bugged
21:04.27KirkburnFisker-, no, that many tickets is not possible
21:04.33JaciiHow?
21:04.33Kaydeethreebark's working fine on most servers
21:04.37Fisker-are you calling Blizzard liars?
21:04.41KirkburnBlizzard!?
21:04.43Chaoswell on Kil'jaedan it's bugged to hell
21:04.48KirkburnWho said anything about Blizzard?
21:04.49Chaosshhh
21:04.52Chaosthey'll hear you
21:04.58Fisker-I went from having trouble with getting 10 kegs a run, to having pretty easy time getting 11 or 12 kegs
21:05.00Fisker-Kirkburn i did
21:05.07Fisker-Drysc can get 16 kegs
21:05.10JaciiOn Doomhammer I get lag when I enter Org, EVEN WHEN I HAVE ALL THE SETTINGS DOWN.
21:05.13Fisker-hence "the biggest n00b in the world can get it"
21:05.18KirkburnProof?
21:05.27KaydeethreeI can get 11-12 on average. I need to learn how to do the mid-turn and not resort to running to the far barrel
21:05.35Fisker-i'm gonna take Drysc's word
21:05.38JaciiI know how
21:05.45KirkburnSame, Kaydeethree, though I did do it a few times, but it doesn't cut off much
21:05.56KirkburnFisker-, LINK, if you haven't got my suggestion yet
21:06.02JaciiDo a jump and turn around quickly, if you do it correctly, when yo ugive the barrel you'll have about 45% fatigue
21:06.12Kaydeethreehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215496478&postId=22151785267&sid=1#26
21:06.14Jaciiand then you can run to the middle barrel in time
21:06.18Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215496478&postId=22151785267&sid=1#26
21:06.23Fisker-was only 15 kegs :(
21:07.08Chaosis there any word on when wrath of the lich king comes out?
21:07.12KirkburnNope
21:07.13ChaosI want to be able to hit lvl80
21:07.15Chaos:(
21:07.22KirkburnThanks Kaydeethree
21:07.33Chaosand then I wonder what happens to all the lvl70 armor that's like whoa
21:07.37Kaydeethreethey announced BC well over a year before it came out, didn't they?
21:07.39ChaosI guess they make super lvl80 armor
21:07.43KirkburnI have nearly got 12 before, so 15 I can just about believe
21:07.44ChaosI don't know
21:07.55JaciiMy highest was 15
21:08.02Fisker-it is so stupid how lag affects it though
21:08.03KirkburnBut you'd have to be very very lucky, low lag and great timing
21:08.41JaciiExactly
21:08.52KirkburnThey should increase the time increase you get to about 45 seconds, so we could do it forever :P
21:08.55JaciiI was perfect that day, like 64 tickets
21:09.34Fisker-there's a hard-cap on the time you can get
21:09.38Fisker-which is just even more stupid
21:09.42Kaydeethree15:00
21:09.47Fisker-i wonder if run-speed enchants affect it
21:09.53Kaydeethreebut the only way the guy got there was a chain of lock teleports
21:09.59Fisker-yeah
21:10.21JaciiNah Fisker
21:10.23Fisker-which is why it seems stupid to have it on anything more than like 7-8 minutes
21:10.31Kaydeethreewhich is genius if you don't mind burning $BugNum shards
21:10.37JaciiIf you do something that affects run you get off your mount
21:10.51Fisker-run-speed enchants are passive
21:11.05JaciiAh, I thought you meant like sprint
21:13.23Fisker-but i still want my mount days ago
21:13.58Fisker-But because of you Blizzard i am no longer an agent of this system etc.
21:16.30JaciiDoes Blizzard read this?
21:16.49Fisker-nope
21:17.05JaciiThen why did you say "Becauser of you Blizzard" to us?
21:17.18Fisker-because i'm weird
21:17.33Jacii'k
21:20.07Chaosblizzard can't read it if you wear a tin foil helmet
21:20.08Fisker-it was Kirkburn
21:20.20Fisker-i wear no tin foil helmet
21:20.22KeolahI insult NPCs in group chat all the time.
21:20.36KeolahI know perfectly well they couldn't hear me or care even if I said them :P
21:20.43KirkburnFisker-, you're saying it's stupid to have a cap on the time?
21:20.52KirkburnDo you understand anything about how to prevent exploits?
21:21.08Fisker-no
21:21.28Fisker-i'm saying it's stupid to have a cap of 15 minutes when you obviously can't use it for 15 minutes using intended gameplay
21:21.37Kirkburn...
21:21.56Kaydeethreewell, they've got randomly large caps on most boss fights, take illidan for example
21:22.04KirkburnSo this is ignoring that some people can go for around 10 minutes
21:22.08AFKDuTempeteninja <insert dog smiley> Kirkburn
21:22.17Kaydeethreeyou're never going to intentionally run in to it, but it's there all the same
21:22.17Fisker-that's only alliance :P
21:22.25Fisker-and that's what i said, have it around 10 minutes
21:22.34KirkburnThat's not the point of it
21:22.34Fisker-although by my calculations it was more like 8 minutes
21:22.39KirkburnIt is to prevent exploiting
21:22.44Fisker-yes
21:22.48Fisker-which it doesn't
21:22.51KirkburnNot to prevent people doing it PROPERLY for too long
21:23.17KirkburnYou'd rather Blizz spent their time obessively calculating the time?
21:23.43KirkburnY'know, I prefer the coder guy was actually just looking for bugs, and chose a reasonable time limit
21:23.50AFKDuTempeteFisker- you really need to stop getting Kirkburn all riled up. :P
21:23.55Kirkburn:P
21:24.05KirkburnI love ... discussions
21:24.11KirkburnMmmmmmmmMMMMMmmmmmmm
21:24.15Kaydeethrees/discussions/flamefests/
21:24.18AFKDuTempeteFisker- is good at starting... discussions...
21:24.20AFKDuTempetehahaha
21:24.27Fisker-well given it takes about 2 minutes to find out the proper time to cap the buff at i see no harm
21:24.39Kirkburn2 minutes
21:24.49KirkburnSomething's not right there ...
21:25.18Fisker-i'm just saying
21:25.22Fisker-i wanted my mount on launch day
21:25.27KirkburnThat's the problem ^^
21:27.21Fisker-man
21:27.34Fisker-if only i could've gotten the event the first day
21:27.39Fisker-i would have like a billion tickets now
21:27.42Fisker-AND all the items
21:28.02Kirkburnheh
21:31.46Fisker-i'm going to plug into the Matrix and kill Blizzard
21:31.47Fisker-later
21:33.19JaciiBYE K
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