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00:18.15Dottedi wanna play hl2:ep2 now damnit!!!
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00:24.22Bagginswwfoxlit the secret discovered in Portal towards the end is pretty interesting though
00:24.33Bagginswwthe one establishes who the organization is
00:24.42Bagginswwand what
00:25.32foxlitYeah, pretty slideshow
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00:30.27Bagginswwya
00:30.43BagginswwThe ending credits were amusing too LOL
00:31.13Bagginsww"We'll bake you and then serve you cake" heh heh
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00:41.47[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Learn2raid: Raid speak - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/10/learn2raid-raid-speak/
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01:04.31foxlitGah
01:04.38foxlitI'm beginning to hate some of the umps here
01:06.17foxlitAnd as I was typing that, it did itself
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01:48.44KirkburnWoo "Random good news of the day: Patch 2.3 will include a flight point at the Rebel Camp in northern Stranglethorn Vale. So says Eyonix."
01:48.53KirkburnTook their bloody time :P
01:49.06KirkburnStV finally reasonable for the Alliance
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03:25.41[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: Blizzard Jobs - Associate Localization Producer - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1764
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04:42.17[NewsBot]MMO Champion: 2.3 Soon, Gurtogg hotfix, daily blue posts. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1608.0
05:19.44[NewsBot]World of Raids: Daily Blue, Nihilum site - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-7971-1.html
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06:31.02Fisker--oh hi Bibi
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07:28.16[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Tivo Alert: Jack Thompson on Halo 3 - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/11/tivo-alert-jack-thompson-on-halo-3/
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10:05.51KenSentMeHi, i still have problems exiting WoW running in Wine on Linux. On the wiki it says that i can abort the game by running /reloadui, then /logout. However, /reloadui is not a working command
10:13.28Fisker--<PROTECTED>
10:13.49Fisker--it's /script ReloadUI(); or /console reloadui or /rl if you have an Ace addon
10:16.08KenSentMeOk, now that command works, i'll change it in the wiki too. But quitting WoW doesn't work
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10:19.49KenSentMeBTW, anyone here that runs WoW in Wine 0.9.46
10:20.20KenSentMeOn the wiki it says that the Hang on exit problem doesn't show up in 0.9.46, however it does here
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11:22.41Kirkburn|sleepBibi`, who came up with "daily blue" first?
11:22.48Kirkburn|sleepAlso, morning all!
11:28.16[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Jack Thompson Burnout? Get Real… - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/11/jack-thompson-burnout-get-real/
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11:38.11Bibi`Kirkburn : I'd say Curse.
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11:57.08Fisker--daily blue?
11:57.26Fisker--you mean like a recap of blue posts for the day or just a blue post tracker?
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12:05.10[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Guild ending raid bosses - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/breakfast-topic-guild-ending-raid-bosses/
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12:48.16[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Game Almighty Interviews Leland Yee - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/11/game-almighty-interviews-leland-yee/
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13:06.58Kirkburnhttp://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/116006.html
13:07.09KirkburnDon 't watch if you don't want to spoil Portal
13:09.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: A list of Shaman tricks and tips - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/a-list-of-shaman-tricks-and-tips/
13:24.57Traehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine#Voice_Chat  This page needs to be updated for WoW 2.2+ and voicechat with Linux  anyone know about how to get it working?
13:25.39TraeI can get my mic working with the TeamSpeak Linux client
13:25.50Traewhich kinda indicates it's working :)
13:25.51Traebut...
13:25.58TraeI can't get it to work inside of WoW
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14:05.17[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Inside Darnassus - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/around-azeroth/
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14:23.36KenSentMeAnyone here running WoW on Linux in Wine? I got some info of the wiki Linux/Wine i would like to check
14:24.12moveaxwhat's the issue?
14:24.17KasoI do have it running
14:24.31Kasothough my account is frozen so i cant actually log on atm
14:25.28KenSentMeI still have the Hang on exit problem in Wine 0.9.46 while the wiki states that that problem doesn't occur in 0.9.46
14:27.14KenSentMeIt's this page btw: http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine#WoW_hangs_on_exit
14:29.10KasoIm afraid i use an older version of wine, i havent seen that issue
14:29.17[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Poll: Do you use a game card or a credit card? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/poll-do-you-use-a-game-card-or-a-credit-card/
14:29.41moveaxare you using wine or cedega?
14:31.15KenSentMemoveax, wine
14:34.32twoshadetodKenSentMe, oddly that happens to me *sometimes*
14:34.43twoshadetodrarely but once in a while i'll have to shell out and wineserver -k
14:35.20KenSentMetwoshadetod, i have to do that all the time, and it's very annoying because some settings (like accepting an eula) aren't saved
14:35.23twoshadetodthis is 0.9.41
14:35.30twoshadetodoh damn
14:35.44twoshadetoddoes it seem to happen after you patch (and are you able to patch automatically or do you need to get them manually?)
14:36.25KenSentMe,twoshadetod, patches run normally lately, however i need to kill WoW.exe manually when the patches are applied
14:36.57twoshadetodhmmm strange, i have to always download and add each manually
14:37.07twoshadetodwhat distro are you running it on? just out of curiosity?
14:37.31KenSentMeUbuntu 7.10, gutsy gibbon
14:37.39KenSentMeYou?
14:37.42twoshadetodfiesty
14:37.44twoshadetod:)
14:38.11twoshadetodi got burned on beta/unstable edgy coming from a perfect dapper and before that breezy so i wait a while before upgrading now
14:38.52twoshadetodbut that is even more strange because we probably followed the same steps and have a very similar system as far as wow and wine are concerned
14:38.52KenSentMeWell, gutsy is still beta, and still has some bugs
14:38.59twoshadetodyou would think we would have very similar results
14:39.33KenSentMeThere is a difference in the wine version
14:39.44twoshadetodyeah i see you are running a more current one
14:40.03twoshadetodmaybe you can work around this
14:40.10twoshadetodisn't that info saved in a wtf file?
14:40.54twoshadetodif it is you think that is being rolled back or w/e make a copy of it  and create a batch file or script that renames it to the right name right before executing wow
14:41.06twoshadetodof coarse is the switch happens after that point , lol i dunno
14:41.08twoshadetodworth a try
14:41.33twoshadetodwere you able to get vent and wow working?
14:42.57ltcolumbonot a FILE and DIRECTORY
14:43.05KenSentMeI just found the RunOnce.wtf in /WTF and put all settings from -1 to 1 and now the ealu is skipped
14:43.10KenSentMeSo one problem solved
14:43.16ltcolumboor FOLDER for windoze people
14:43.26KenSentMetwoshadetod, i dont use ventrilo
14:43.29ltcolumboand = a
14:44.35twoshadetodKenSentMe, nice
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14:44.44twoshadetodltcolumbo, ? what do you mean?
14:45.38twoshadetodbut you still are having the problem of it hanging upon exit right?
14:46.09ltcolumboWTF is a folder not a file
14:46.33ltcolumboit's a directory of files
14:46.41twoshadetodahhh
14:46.57ltcolumboat work, back later
14:47.27twoshadetodI thought they were a collection of files with *.wtf extensions
14:47.41twoshadetodbut either way im sure he got it
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14:56.32KenSentMetwoshadetod, hey,now even my Hang on exit problem is solved!
14:56.37KenSentMeGreat!
14:56.43twoshadetodnice workaround bro
14:57.34twoshadetodbetter than my solution which would allow it to happen each time and require wineserver -k each exit
14:57.39twoshadetodmine was a little dirty
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15:09.20[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Blue Notes: STV Rebel Camp getting flight path in patch 2.3 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/blue-notes-stv-rebel-camp-getting-flight-path-in-patch-2-3/
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15:39.59SakaninhaHello! Can anyone tell me how i can recover the info on a guild page that now is only a redirect? All info seems lost, and ther's no history on the wiki page
15:41.30pcjWhat page
15:42.02Kasohttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=<article_name>&redirect=no
15:42.08Kasothen click history etc
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15:48.17Sakaninhahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:momentum_(Grim_Batol_EU)
15:48.27Sakaninhathere's no history
15:49.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: The return of Varian Wrynn - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/the-return-of-varian-wrynn/
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15:56.30pcjHeh, I know the problem
15:56.56Kasoindeed
15:58.12KirkburnArgh, redirect central
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15:59.17pcjThe problem was when the guilds were moved into their own namespace that the lowercase guild didn't carry over with the right PAGENAME
15:59.39KirkburnAny idea where they went?
15:59.44pcjAsk TOR
16:00.52KirkburnSakaninha, afraid you're going to have to recreate it for now
16:01.04KirkburnI've wiped the page for now
16:01.17KirkburnSilly idea to lowercase the page titles anyway ><
16:01.33KirkburnI know that's the guilds name, but of course it was going to cause namespace problems
16:02.16SakaninhaI don't have any backup of the page :(
16:02.27SakaninhaIs it possible to get the info back in the future?
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16:05.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: A Beginner's Guide To WoW - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/wow-moviewatch-a-beginners-guide-to-wow/
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16:41.30SakaninhaSorry to bother you again with the redirect issue. But can you tell me if in the future the guild page will be restored? Or is it lost forever?
16:42.03SakaninhaNow the redirect page is already gone, but tells me that WoWWiki does not have a Guild page with that exact name
16:48.16[NewsBot]GamePolitics: “Kill Jim Liebowitz” Video Parodies Political Struggle Over Video Games - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/10/11/kill-jim-liebowitz-video-parodies-political-struggle-over-video-game/
16:54.52Kasoheh, 1up to no good
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16:59.44KirkburnSakaninha, it may have been lost
17:00.13KirkburnA recent update didn't like the lowercase first letter
17:00.21KirkburnWhen I get a chance I'll ask the tech guy who did it
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17:03.17Sakaninhathanks for the update and for looking into it
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17:16.22foxlit"New! Nihilum.eu: Now powered by Wowhead!"
17:17.07KirkburnInteresting design
17:17.22KirkburnVery commercial :P
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17:18.20foxlitPost a screenshot.
17:18.36foxlitBtw, the wowwiki official site screenshot ends up blocking wikia ads :P
17:18.54KirkburnI noticed :)
17:19.28KirkburnCan't really complain at them about their use of adblock though
17:19.38KirkburnBesides, nicer screenshot ^^
17:21.06Fisker-!care();
17:21.43foxlitattempt to call care, function expected, got nil
17:24.17foxlit[[User:Teabagrumon]]
17:24.17[NewsBot]foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Teabagrumon
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17:33.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Totem Talk: Two Fists of Fury! (or axes or maces) - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/totem-talk-two-fists-of-fury-or-axes-or-maces/
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18:27.20huraxhi all
18:29.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Hidden Panda on SSC floor - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/hidden-panda-on-ssc-floor/
18:30.18Adyslook Kirkburn, Samwise's touch :p
18:30.35Kirkburnhehe
18:30.51KirkburnI need to make 1000g ><
18:30.54Adysanyone who's touched actipnscript before here?
18:30.58Adysactionscript//
18:31.10KirkburnAaadyyyyys, why did you have to transfer off the server :(
18:31.20KirkburnI wants your gold
18:31.29Adysask Cainwyn :P
18:32.01Adysgave her 5000 gold for the mount when i still had shitloads saying "pay me back when you want", transferred off meanwhile
18:32.48huraxlol
18:32.58Kirkburn:P
18:33.15Adysi still got like 2k gold on AP heh
18:33.16KirkburnI don't think Cainwyn knows me :P
18:33.25Adysthats your problem not mine =P
18:33.40Adyskirk!
18:33.44Adysdid you ever touch AS :(
18:33.45huraxi'm far too lazy to save gold, got the 5000 for the swift flight form but since then i didn't save or look for good trades and the like
18:33.52KirkburnAdys, nope
18:34.01Adys:( shoo
18:34.19KirkburnI need to do the Ogri'la start stuff somehow
18:34.35huraxogri'la is funny
18:34.52huraxand some very short daily quests
18:35.32huraxbut the senseo game is impossible on a modem line, had to find that out ;)
18:36.30simlanHello Guys! I have a question: How can I publish my addons the ACE way? Put it in the WAU and things like this?
18:37.52KirkburnGo to #wowace and ask there :)
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18:55.33huraxstrasbourg
18:55.54huraxreminds me that i need to ask someone who lives across the river ;)
19:06.30huraxBagginsww:
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19:07.09hurax"deo gracias" as a common phrase is that an intented spelling or just a typo?
19:09.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Got your ram yet? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/got-your-ram-yet/
19:11.23KirkburnAdys, how do I make money? :P
19:11.39AdysUhm first you need to study stuff
19:11.42huraxKirkburn: borrow it from adys
19:11.48Adysthen send a cv to a job opportunity
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19:12.58Kirkburn>_<
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19:13.11KirkburnAlternatively, how do I make money ... in WoW
19:17.28pcj1) Get Auctioneer with Enchantrix
19:18.08pcj2) Buy uncommon/rare items below the value of the things they DE into, or adamantite ore below the value of the gems they prospect into
19:18.19[NewsBot]MMO Champion: 2.3 Patch on PTR today. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1620.0
19:18.21pcj3) Get an enchanter/jewelcrafting friend
19:18.44pcj4) Sell the enchanting mats/gems on the AH
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19:23.23benjris this the place to ask about code for addons?
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19:34.19[NewsBot]MMO Champion: 2.3 PTR Patch Notes - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1621.0
19:39.16[NewsBot]World of Raids: 2.3 PTR Patch Notes - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-7985-1.html
19:41.51pcjno benjr
19:41.56pcjsee #wowi-lounge
19:42.06benjrthanks
19:50.34KirkburnYay patch
20:02.42KirkburnVendor discounts!
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20:05.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: 2.3 PTR patch notes - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/2-3-ptr-patch-notes/
20:05.26[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Blizzard should focus on more Patch 2.3s, not on new mid-level zones - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/blizzard-should-focus-on-more-patch-2-3s-not-on-new-mid-level-z/
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20:12.00Kirkburn"Expertise: We have added a new stat and associated rating called expertise and expertise rating"
20:19.01pcjmore stats plz
20:23.50KirkburnOkay, done! http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.3.0
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21:03.19Xinhuanhttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wikipedian_protester.png
21:03.22Xinhuanwhoa i like this comic
21:09.51pcjhover tooltips now suppresses normal tooltips :P
21:10.28Corganhttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png
21:10.29CorganI lold
21:16.53Kirkburnpcj, not only that, they broke the tooltips earlier, amirite? :)
21:17.02pcjwhat?
21:17.54KirkburnI didn't get either when you first added the code, but it works now :)
21:18.15KirkburnNice work :)
21:26.10pcjI need a Foxbot!
21:26.40pcj~foxbot
21:26.40infoboti guess foxbot is [[User:Foxbot]], launch by saying "I need a Foxbot!" while foxlit is around.
21:27.27foxlitinfobot, no, foxbot is a [[User:Foxbot]], ping foxlit to start if you dare.
21:27.28infobotfoxlit: okay
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21:35.49PolarinaAttention programmers! The perfect escuse for slacking at work is right here! See http://xkcd.com/303/
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21:58.00Kirkburn"NPCs with a single function will now display an icon that indicates their function on mouseover."
21:58.11KirkburnThat was on the WotLK beta!
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22:01.46KasoPolarina but what about poor java developers!?
22:02.11KasoWell i guess it still does compile, but going to bytecode is faster
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22:13.08KirkburnThey went a sodding updated the notes, didn't they :P
22:13.15Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.3.0&diff=916615&oldid=916549 - the changes (and there's a LOT)
22:16.14pcjlol "Game objects that you can interact with have a glow around them and display their name over the object to make them more obvious."
22:17.22Kasosounds cool
22:17.46KasoI like the dropping bg flag debuff
22:17.56Kirkburnpcj, woah
22:20.10pcj"Corpses that belong to someone in your party, but that you cannot loot will say in the corpse mouseover who has loot rights on that corpse."
22:20.21Kaso*Whirlwind: This ability now strikes with both weapons when a Warrior is dual-wielding.
22:20.33KasoWhat the hell, un-needed
22:20.46Kasopcj, LOOT THE DOG1!!! :>
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22:21.29KirkburnThis is gonna be an awesome patch
22:21.39KirkburnNow, can we have it sooner than later? :P
22:22.08Kirkburn|Pixel|, I wub your company ^^
22:24.40|Pixel|hm ?
22:24.40TecnoBratOMG YES Lowered the fireball damage of Defias Pillagers
22:24.46Kirkburnhehe
22:25.19Kasohaha
22:25.24KasoHow long has that been needed for
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22:30.20Kasosag_ich_nicht is a crazy-man
22:31.12KasoI dont get why every tom dick and harry feels they should be raid-viable dps, i kinda dont like what this game has become.
22:31.25KasoLets go back to healers healing, and tanks tanking please
22:31.32Kaso(priest)
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22:57.25KeolahI stopped sucking quite so much at tanking! *flex* :P
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23:01.20[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Big surprises in Patch 2.3 on the PTR - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/big-surprises-in-patch-2-3-on-the-ptr/
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23:24.50KirkburnI'm off to the Deadmines :)
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23:32.00piukirkburn, question for you
23:32.07piuif you're not afk
23:36.02KirkburnIn fact, I'm in the Gnomemines
23:36.05KirkburnSup?
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23:36.34piuwould you say WoWWiki:Projects is ready for official vote yet?
23:37.19piuI haven't done any policy or guideline votes ever
23:44.43KirkburnYeah, sure
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23:46.58piuOK I'll put it up for vote soon
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23:57.20[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Updated Patch 2.3 Test notes with more class changes - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/10/11/updated-patch-2-3-test-notes-with-more-class-changes/

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