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00:28.16KirkburnAFKDuTempete, poke
00:32.42pcjgg kirkburn
00:33.03pcj~seen laurly
00:33.05infobotlaurly <n=test@0x50a4082e.vgnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 9d 16h 7m 49s ago, saying: 'arena promoter thats what i was looking for :)'.
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00:40.00[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Insider Trader: Gatherers behaving badly - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/07/insider-trader-gatherers-behaving-badly/
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01:15.57[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: Art of World of Warcraft @ The Art Institute of California - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1904
01:31.33pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Vorbis#AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH
01:31.40pcji just liked the anchor name
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02:28.31Sky2042pcj: love x8s response to that.
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02:49.56vargranhi everyone
02:51.09vargranI've heard that there is some helmet made by engineers which allows to see rogues in stealth
02:51.14vargranis that true?
02:51.50pcjyes
02:52.00^RaK^it improves stealth detection.... it doesnt just let you see them :x
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03:39.31Kaso"The story of Mr and Mrs Darwin who have lived upto their surname by carrying out a scheme that shows no evidence of intellegent design."
03:39.33Kasohehe
03:41.14pcji thought the police were pretty slow on that one
03:41.32pcjfirst time i heard he turned himself in and that his wife had been in panama i knew it was for life insurance
03:42.49Kasothe bit i understand is that it appeared they pulled it off perfectly, and were away in panama with the money, then he decides to come back to england
03:43.07pcjlol
03:43.08pcjyeah
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04:17.00TecnoBratwow, thats quite the queue
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05:05.24Sky2042_afkedited tootip
05:12.17Sky2042_afkKirkburn: why didn't you just change the band templates to use the class of the wiki colors on the main page? :/
05:12.22Sky2042_afkand infoline, and etc
05:12.24Sky2042_afkxD
05:14.40KirkburnSky2042_afk, they don't work like that
05:15.10KirkburnUnfortunately
05:15.30Sky2042_afkhuh
05:15.40KirkburnThey used weird code based off band
05:16.05Kirkburninfoline may still do so
05:16.44KirkburnIn any case, I partly wanted to reduce their usage around the wiki anyway, as they seem to be causing some pretty awful coding decisions
05:16.55Sky2042_afk?
05:17.09KirkburnGuilds using it as section headers, for example
05:17.15Sky2042_afkah
05:17.38KirkburnMan, those pages are still a tangles mess of tables, <br>s, clears, bands and icons
05:18.04Sky2042_afkwhich pages?...
05:18.15KirkburnLook up where infoline is used
05:18.41KirkburnAnyways, infoline could be turned into a proper inline template
05:18.47KirkburnDunno what to do with band itself
05:18.54Sky2042_afk"Anyways" huh?
05:19.22KirkburnCan't a man add an 's' to "Anyway" for dramatic effect? :(
05:19.59Sky2042_afkno, the statement kirkburn
05:20.26KirkburnBats at me with what?
05:20.31Kirkburn>_L
05:20.37Kirkburnuh ... >_>
05:21.08Kirkburninline, meaning not using band, but with the CSS inline on the template
05:21.16Sky2042_afkmmmm
05:21.36KirkburnReferring to mainpageblue seems like a good idea
05:22.00Sky2042_afkthat's about the right color.
05:22.55Sky2042_afkKirkburn: unprotect http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Bc , or edit out the tlink, please!
05:28.05Sky2042_afkand http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Bc/content
05:33.03KirkburnUnprotected and done
05:33.07KirkburnOff to bed now
05:33.09KirkburnG'night all!
05:33.16Sky2042_afkbah
05:33.22Sky2042_afkthere's another two templates that need fixing
05:33.27Kirkburn|sleepWhich?
05:33.34Sky2042_afkclrl and clrr
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05:34.44pcjgo for 100000
05:35.02Sky2042_afkjust removing tlink pcj. gonna be hard to do that :/
05:35.03Kirkburn|sleep...
05:37.07pcjstupid JS
05:37.57Sky2042_afkpcj: love the changes to npc and all that
05:38.18pcjcool
05:38.28pcjtrying to do something for coordinates
05:38.33pcjbut it's not showing up for some reason
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05:47.42Sky2042_afkwoohoo!
05:47.43AFKDuTempeteDon't mind me, I just came to bitch more about Fandy putting pcj on the violations list
05:47.52pcjlol
05:47.57pcjhappy birthday DuTempete :)
05:48.03DuTempetelol thank you pcj :)
05:49.13Sky2042_afkhey Du.
05:49.18DuTempeteHey sky
05:49.19Sky2042_afkyeah, I found it funny. :]
05:49.29Sky2042_afkdid you see the edit note?
05:49.33Sky2042_afk"No one is safe"
05:49.38pcj*immune
05:49.43Sky2042_afk^
05:51.38DuTempetelol
05:53.21pcjyou aren't bitching very much
05:56.21DuTempeteJust mentionening it once was enough bitching for me :P
05:56.29DuTempeteI'd rather bitch to Fandy's face, honestly :P
05:56.51pcjlol
06:00.33DuTempeteI love how Zeal jumps on the "I don't like pcj" bandwagon...
06:00.51pcjI love how they just come out and say it
06:01.08pcjgg npov, impersonal administration, etc
06:02.18Sky2042_afkwait, wtf?
06:02.33Sky2042_afkwhy would he use "Policy/Editing#Removing content" to list you? :/
06:03.18pcjwhat do you mean
06:03.36Sky2042_afkI've decided to put you as a {{suspect}} on the WoWWiki:Violations list. See WoWWiki:Policy/Editing#Removing_content for why.
06:04.08pcj...right
06:10.00pcjbbl
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06:41.58zealdidn't jump on any bandwagon DuTempete, no idea fandy felt the same way until i saw that, and considring it was me who started the issue, it wasn't like i was trolling. anyways i thought pcj already picked up that i don't like him ;)
06:42.20DuTempete:P
06:42.44DuTempeteWell, personally, I don't think a talk page is the right place to talk about who we like or don't like.
06:42.50DuTempeteEspecially an admin's talk page.
06:43.28Zeallol, jsut establishing my bias so other people know to double check what i say ;)
06:44.04Zealso.. what fun stuff happened to tooltip, lol.
06:44.55DuTempetewell, I'm going to bed.
06:44.58DuTempeteg'night folks
06:50.16TecnoBratfun stuff? well aparantly it caused an admin and a user who has contributed a lot to argue about what looks like from an outside perspective ... nothing major
06:50.37TecnoBrat:P
06:51.06Zealthey argued? :o
06:51.07Zeallol
06:51.26Zealbut yeah, {{tooltip}} needs careful edits ;)
06:52.34TecnoBratZeal, read pcj's talk page ... dunno if you could call that arguing ... but its darn close :P
06:52.44Zeal:o
06:53.08TecnoBratanyways.
06:54.18Zealoh, between fandy and pcj, lol.
06:54.32Zealthat i already knew about :p
06:54.48Zealdamn, and i had hope it was something else.
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07:46.28[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Blue posts, SK.US Team, Winter Veil - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=2863.0
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07:48.50Fisker-btw it's lulz Bibi
07:49.20Bibiwhat Fisker- ?
07:49.22BibiWHAT ? :(
07:49.55Fisker-"propulsion issues" :D
07:50.08Bibioh, yeah
07:50.09Bibi^^
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09:19.57Zealwish mediawiki had a "mark all as read" for the watchlist. : /
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09:23.32Fisker-then learn2notwiki :<a
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10:40.27[NewsBot]World of Raids: Daily Blue, New WoW TV Commercial, Winter Veil, Comic Book - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-9554-1.html
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12:05.05squiwhats this job queue now?
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13:40.49|Pixel|Adys: alors ? la pub ? :P
13:41.57Adys|Pixel|: J'ai adoré
13:42.04|Pixel|hu hu hu
13:42.12AdysOn es tous un peu sheep au fond de nous meme.
13:42.14|Pixel|tu aurais trouvé ? :)
13:42.15Adysest :(
13:42.18Adysnon lol
13:42.28Adysj'etait parti sur un acteur en 4 lettres :(
13:42.48pcjje m'en fous
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14:24.05[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Alterac Valley is now awarding honor correctly - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/08/alterac-valley-is-now-awarding-honor-correctly/
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14:32.25miicahi :)
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14:33.21Krolmorgood morning
14:33.37miicahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Dunemaul_Europe in alliance side need "Sienimetsän asukit" dont know website and then Triumvirate (virate.org)
14:34.45miicaor here is sinimetsän asukit website http://sienimetsa.proboards53.com/ :D
14:35.28miicaonly dunemault BT alliance guilds :D
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14:38.04Krolmorpeople... I'm here discussing with my girlfriend
14:38.40Krolmorwhat would be the best pvp realm to play in without too much camping hassle and ease of getting into a guild? not for raiding or anything specific, but you know just having that guild chat..
14:41.58[NewsBot]GamePolitics: In France, Gamer Runs for Mayor - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/12/08/in-france-gamer-runs-for-mayor/
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15:12.05[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: The Portal Clearing - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/08/around-azeroth-the-portal-clearing/
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15:33.57Kalrothlol
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18:07.04KirkburnMorning all!
18:07.33Kirkburn<Zeal> wish mediawiki had a "mark all as read" for the watchlist. : / ... er ... it does?
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18:07.45KirkburnIt's called "Mark all pages visited" and is right under the header
18:08.18[NewsBot]WoW Insider: WoW Insider Weekly - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/08/wow-insider-weekly/
18:08.33*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - We are an official fan site, obey the ToU! || Next #wikia-gaming meeting on 9 December, 8pm (GMT) || HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUTEMPETE!
18:08.48Fisker-you never say happy birthday to me Kirkburn :(
18:12.01KirkburnCause ... er ... it's not your birthday?
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18:20.48KirkburnHey Hob
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18:32.14Kasothat still running from last night?
18:32.31pcjPossibly...
18:37.34pcj!wwstats
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18:38.40Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Dark_elf
18:44.50zealyou mean that big button i overlooked because it's a big ugly button isntead of a nice clear link? lol
18:44.59zealnn all
18:46.58Hobinheim!?
18:47.42pcjdon't panic hob
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18:59.43pcjhappy birthday DuTempete :)
18:59.57DuTempetehehe thanks :)
19:00.13pcjsee topic also
19:00.18DuTempeteomg
19:00.28Teomyr\o/
19:00.32Teomyrhappy birthday :)
19:01.11DuTempetethanks Teo :)
19:02.07Kirkburnoooh
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19:04.29DuTempeteOkies, going to afkish while I continue packing.
19:09.41Kirkburnhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7133785.stm ... is it me, or is that hardly earth shattering?
19:11.30Teomyrit's not just you :P
19:11.57sacarascoh noes! the uk isn't as christian as it once was! :o
19:12.00zealheh. happy (what was it adys said, 60th? :P) bday DuTempete.
19:12.24Kirkburnsacarasc, but did you read the bit where it said "Theos said the findings showed the Christmas story was still "very much" in the "cultural bloodstream" of the nation." >_>
19:13.19Kaso"But, at the same time, if we are serious about social cohesion we can't afford to ignore the stories that have bound us together as a culture for 1,000 years."
19:13.27Kaso"But, at the same time, if we are serious about social cohesion we can't afford to ignore the stories from 1,000 years ago."
19:14.03KirkburnThe UK was rather late to the Christian party, wasn't it
19:15.46KirkburnOn another topic, anyone from outside the UK heard about this guy who faked his own death?
19:15.51pcjYep
19:15.54Kirkburnhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/7134553.stm
19:16.10KirkburnDidn't go quite as he wanted, methinks
19:16.35pcjI don't know what his plan was but I think turning himself in to the cops after his wife collected on life insurance was possibly a bad idea
19:16.51zealkirkburn.. "Original layout for this template was inspired by User:Zeal/Sandbox/Templates/i-bc" >_>
19:17.06KasoOn the now show this week; "The story of Mr and Mrs darwin who have lived up to their name by pulling of a plan that shows no sign of intellegent design"
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19:17.27KirkburnIt's not protected Zeal :)
19:18.13KirkburnYay Team Fortress 2 stats are out :) http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/tf2_stats.php
19:18.40zeali know, just i don't enjoy adding lots of jobs to the que, and pointing out you forgot to do it in the same edit as the documentation :p
19:19.39zealanyways, that's my watchlist cleared. going now.
19:20.16KirkburnSee ya
19:20.30KirkburnIt's not used much, so wouldn't worry about the jobqueue
19:20.37pcj!jobqueue
19:20.39[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 4488 doing ~0.4 job/s, done in approx. 3hrs 7mins.
19:20.46KirkburnOnly infobox, stub and tooltips affect it
19:20.47pcjyeah lol
19:21.07KasoNo portal stats yet :<
19:21.32KirkburnArgh, TF2 works in inches ><
19:22.47KirkburnCripes, average time per round on tc_hydro is over an hour and a half
19:22.50Kasoi like how dustbowl is considerable skewed in red's favour
19:23.11Kirkburnheh, I'd better take note :P
19:23.25KirkburnI can imagine Valve will be tweaking that map somewhat
19:25.01Kirkburnkaso, red are attackers, no?
19:25.26Kasoto be honest i mostly play 2fort
19:26.05KirkburnI wonder why blue wins more there, the map is identical
19:26.44KirkburnHmm, don't mean identical, can't think of the right word
19:26.55Kasosymmetrical?
19:27.32KasoI guess there is some degree of error brought in by the fact that some players will always pick a certain colour rather than just random
19:27.51KirkburnThat is the word, but actually, I think it's copied and rotated by 180
19:28.21KirkburnBlue is best :P
19:28.48Kirkburnheh, reminds me of the header on http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/
19:33.12Bagginswwpcj some of your timeline renames are imprecise
19:33.32pcjmore precise than the abbreviations
19:33.33Bagginswwlike the one you named, "The Burning Crusade Manual
19:33.43Bagginswwonly had one or two manual references
19:33.46Bagginswwmost were from in-game
19:33.51Bagginswwor the strategy guide :p
19:34.14Bagginswwand the one you named Alliance Player's guide, has listings from the horde Player's guide
19:34.31pcjbut is mainly from the APG
19:34.47Bagginswwyet if I was just named Timeline (Player's Guide), it might be just as misleading
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19:36.00Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Timeline_%28Alliance_and_Horde_Player%27s_Guides%29
19:36.02Bagginswwthat would work
19:36.05Bagginswwno confusion there
19:40.22Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Timeline_%28Warcraft_RPG_Core_Rulebook%29
19:40.29Bagginswwwell technically the name of the book is
19:40.30Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Timeline_%28Warcraft_RPG_Core_Rulebook%29
19:40.32Bagginswwerm
19:40.40BagginswwDungeons & Dragons Warcraft The Roleplaying Game
19:40.48Bagginswwor Warcraft The Roleplaying Game for short
19:41.01Bagginswwtake your pick for page rename :p
19:41.13Kirkburn"(Bob)"
19:41.25BagginswwLOL
19:43.08Bagginswwwell times up pcj I'm going with the obnoxiously longhand version ;)
19:43.20pcjsuits me
19:43.56Bagginswwso does it hold the record for longest page name?
19:44.01Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Timeline_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Warcraft_The_Roleplaying_Game%29
19:44.03Bagginsww:p
19:44.03pcjno
19:44.11Bagginswwoh?
19:44.32pcjthere's some user page that's longer
19:45.12Bagginswwoh
19:51.53pcjIt occurs to me that MediaWiki could use a delete user feature http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Listusers
19:53.39Kirkburnpcj, I'm sure it exists, we just don't have access to it
19:53.58pcjhow convenient
19:55.57amroKirkburn: isn't there a way to get wikia staffers to do it?
19:56.26Kirkburnyes, but I don't see reason for using it
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20:26.49pcjhi keolah :)
20:26.53pcj!jobqueue
20:26.56[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 5052 doing ~ job/s, done in approx. 0secs.
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20:28.50roflDoes anyone here know of any software (online) that I can download and host for planning and managing raids/dungeons/etc?
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20:56.41Kirkburnrofl, not that I know of
20:57.00KirkburnBy name anyway, I think they do exist however
20:57.09sacarascsure there is, it's called a web forum... does everything that is asked for there
20:57.16Kirkburn[[Fansites]] might be able to help
20:57.17[NewsBot]Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Fansites
20:57.31Kirkburn[[Guild website utilities]] too
20:57.32[NewsBot]Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild_website_utilities
20:59.20Fisker-one does not simply walk into mordor Kirkburn
20:59.35sacarascwhere is mordor kirkburn?
21:00.47Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Orgrimdoomhammer.JPG
21:00.52Bagginswwbest orgrim image :)
21:04.31pcjwhat's that skull near his belt
21:05.12sacarascfalling off cod piece
21:08.55pcjdoesn't look like he's got much to protect
21:11.25Bagginswwlol
21:11.44Bagginswwhe was the last of the doomhammers wasn't he not? The line was to die with him.
21:15.09Fisker-Bibi_
21:15.16Fisker-how did the team suddenly change players?
21:15.16Bibi_Fisker-_
21:15.19Bibi_?
21:15.20Fisker-They were allowed to do that?
21:15.29Fisker-in the 2v2
21:15.32Bibi_yes
21:15.45Fisker-lulz
21:15.52Fisker-makes no sense
21:17.51Fisker-wanna kick each other in the face?
21:18.22Bibi_no
21:18.23Bibi_:(
21:18.33Fisker-ok
21:18.41Fisker-a shame you didn't want to join
21:18.48Bibi_ohoh, fun !
21:23.02foxlitgrr
21:23.12foxlitC&C missions on "Hard" mode are actually proving hard
21:24.38foxlitoutrage, alert the media!
21:24.42sacarasc:o
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21:27.17foxlit(GDI Berne (2), if anyone is wondering)
21:28.30pcjwb DuTempete :)
21:28.36AFKDuTempetethanks :P
21:28.47AFKDuTempetesilly laptop turns off if it goes idle for too long :P
21:29.15pcjyou're gonna have to just stay with us then :)
21:29.18AFKDuTempeteI should probably adjust that :P
21:29.25sacarascor use an anti-idler
21:29.26AFKDuTempetehehe I'll never get packed, then!
21:29.41AFKDuTempeteor change my power settings :P
21:31.04AFKDuTempeteta-da!
21:31.10AFKDuTempeteshouldn't go into hibernate anymore :P
21:31.11pcjhooray!
21:33.55AFKDuTempeteHrmm... you think 40 different tea blends is too much?
21:34.45sacarascif they're actual tea, maybe... if they're just crap you stew in boiling water then drink: definitely
21:35.39AFKDuTempeteactual tea vs. crap you stew in boiling water then drink... I don't understand this comparison :P
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21:35.55sacarasc"herbal tea"
21:36.02AFKDuTempeteoh, you'r ea tea snob :P
21:36.05sacarascit has no tea leaves in it, so it's not really tea
21:36.05AFKDuTempeteso am I :P
21:36.28AFKDuTempeteor I wouldn't have 40 different blends of tea in the cabinet I fondly refer to as the tea cabinet :P
21:36.47KirkburnHow many will I get to try?
21:38.00AFKDuTempeteas many as you like :P
21:38.17pcjtry them all at once!
21:38.24Kirkburnlol
21:38.38sacarascvery efficient
21:38.45KirkburnI'm going to watch my Warcraft 3 cutscene DVD :P
21:38.58KirkburnIt even has the WC and WC2 cutscenes :P
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21:39.42pcjwhoa no way
21:40.10KirkburnThey're awesome :)
21:40.50KirkburnThey need to do a DVD set someday with all their bonus features and cinematics
21:44.17sacarascemail the blizz marketing department with your idea and see it happen... if they think there is a possibility for profit they'll jump on it
21:56.00foxlitIt's too quiet :/
21:56.31foxlitFirst the AI drowns me in a lethal mix of air and ground and artillery units, then it does nothing for 10 minutes
21:56.37foxlitWonder what it's playing
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22:04.20Kirkburnoooh, Vista "SP1 reduces the number of UAC (User Account Control) prompts from 4 to 1 when creating or renaming a folder at a protected location."
22:09.20Dottedhappi birfdai AFKDuTempete
22:10.26foxlitThat's not oooh, that's "whoa"
22:10.40foxlitas in "whoa, you need to say yes four times to rename a folder?"
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22:14.40AFKDuTempeteThank you Dotted :)
22:15.53AFKDuTempeteSo, what's everyone up to this fine Saturday?
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22:22.17foxlitC&C3 on hard!
22:22.32foxlitI'm quite convinced AI cheats/scripts some of the way
22:23.31foxlitThe amount of resistance it offers is very, very uneven
22:23.36ZalenHaha.
22:23.43ZalenYeah.  I ran into some awful points.
22:23.50ZalenEspecially trying to do all the objectives on some maps.
22:25.10foxlitBerne was hell for the first 15 minutes
22:25.21foxlitair, ground, harvester harassment... then it all stopped
22:25.34foxlitAnd I could've finished the mission with four mammonth tanks and a rig
22:26.28ZalenWas that the one with the large crater in the middle?
22:26.32ZalenAnd you had problems north and south?
22:26.42foxlitYeah, more or less
22:31.10foxlitThe temple prime mission also had a very odd difficulty curve
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22:31.59Zalenoh
22:32.01ZalenI was a jerk with that
22:32.11ZalenI expanded to both fields, did a battle rig and parked four mammoths
22:32.22ZalenThe only annoying thing was finding that damned evil walker for the completion
22:32.31ZalenSince it would either run straight into the mammoths or hide in the base
22:32.58foxlitDid it a while back?
22:33.18ZalenWhen the game came out, yeah >_>
22:33.23foxlitYeah, easymode :)
22:33.26ZalenI haven't touched it in ages.
22:33.40foxlitAvatars were rebalanced rather severely, they now outrange and shred mammonths / rigs
22:33.46Zalen:O
22:34.17foxlitI was a bigger bastard by using them as my front line defense with engineers capturing them off for 500$ a piece
22:35.13foxlitThe power management mission also had a timer
22:35.46foxlitAt some point, nod starts being more aggressive with flame infantry, killing off the base defenses you had at that point rather easily
22:36.05foxlit(That was probably the "quit turtling!" timer to get your con yard back)
22:36.58foxlitEnded up capturing a nod base and playing the mission as nod instead of escorting the convoy
22:42.23ZalenHaha.
22:43.20ZalenOh, wait.
22:43.21ZalenI remember that.
22:43.31ZalenI think I just had three APCs with rifles in them
22:43.43ZalenAnd five or six riflemen fortified in their bunkers
22:43.49ZalenAnd they were never able to get close enough.
22:44.01ZalenThe APCs were parked a little ahead so they never got to the bunkers.
22:46.14foxlitthink infantry was buffed as well
22:46.25foxlitgenerally, missile soldiers outrange anything rifle-based
22:46.37foxlitand black hand is resilient as heck against anti-infrantry fire :(
22:50.10ZalenNot versus APC, as much
22:50.14ZalenAt least back when I played
22:50.20foxlitReplay it, good fun :)
22:50.37ZalenI'll take a look at it later, exams are this week and my attention is somewhat shifted. >_>
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23:00.56Kirkburnfoxlit, about the UAC prompts - one to confirm creation, one to give you permissions, one to confirm naming, one to give you permissions
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23:01.43KirkburnIt's a side effect of how UAC was built on top of Windows, rather than being a complete rework
23:02.55KirkburnNot sure how it'll be reduced to just one though, I guess I may immediately go to permissions rather than tell you it was denied, please confirm first, and keep those permissions for naming
23:03.27KirkburnIn any case, there's little need to create folders in protected locations anyway ><
23:04.36pcji create folders for my porn inside Windows\System32 all the time :\
23:05.14Zalen>_>
23:07.51BagginswwUnion Aerospace Corporation?, ;)
23:08.58Fisker-user access control
23:08.59Fisker-n00b
23:11.53BagginswwBFG to your face.
23:15.38roflpcj: lol
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