| 00:00.58 | pcj | bbiab |
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| 00:52.42 | pcj | if {{loot}} can retrieve all the item's data and put it in a span class, i could remove the AJAX portion of the hover tooltips |
| 00:53.13 | foxlit | That's a lot of data |
| 00:53.37 | pcj | Probably |
| 00:54.18 | foxlit | Is it worth it? :P |
| 00:54.36 | pcj | Well, you have to realize that the AJAX method is loading the whole item's page anyway |
| 00:54.57 | pcj | So it's theoretically less data if all items on the linking page were looked at |
| 00:55.48 | pcj | well, I should say item's page minus the skin, action=render ofc |
| 00:58.59 | foxlit | If you were going to do your own rendering, you could also get the raw version :) |
| 00:59.44 | pcj | that'd be more work for the client machine with all the regex's to parse the {{tooltip |
| 01:00.03 | pcj | Not to mention it'd still return the whole page |
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| 01:42.17 | foxlit | !sup |
| 01:42.17 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
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| 01:44.54 | foxlit | http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Strength+of+Will&searchType=all |
| 01:45.06 | foxlit | It's... right... here... http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=4837 |
| 01:46.00 | foxlit | Likewise for http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=25718 |
| 01:46.25 | foxlit | http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=31106 |
| 01:47.19 | foxlit | http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=22535 |
| 01:47.29 | foxlit | Ah, that last one had a changed name :/ |
| 01:54.20 | pcj | Hah |
| 01:54.54 | foxlit | pcj: [[Redridge Mongrel]] |
| 01:55.13 | pcj | [[Redridge Mongrel]] |
| 01:55.14 | [NewsBot] | pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Redridge_Mongrel |
| 01:56.03 | pcj | Hah, mis-click |
| 01:58.59 | foxlit | Poacher is the same thing as well |
| 02:26.04 | foxlit | [[Minor Recomboulator]] qq! |
| 02:26.04 | [NewsBot] | foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Minor_Recomboulator |
| 02:29.55 | foxlit | grr |
| 02:30.01 | foxlit | [[Handguards of Precison]] |
| 02:30.02 | [NewsBot] | foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Handguards_of_Precison |
| 02:30.12 | foxlit | It's a bloody typo! |
| 02:42.21 | foxlit | And so is most of the rest of the queue |
| 02:42.22 | foxlit | Boo! |
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| 03:21.10 | quamaretto | Could anyone take a look at the first few points under http://www.wowwiki.com/Instance_Grouping_Guide_Healer#As_a_Healer |
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| 03:39.52 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.06 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Phat Loot Phriday: The Unbreakable Will - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/21/phat-loot-phriday-the-unbreakable-will/ |
| 04:05.10 | Lukian | quamaretto, editting now ^^ |
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| 04:14.00 | Lukian | someone give me a better term than "DPSers" |
| 04:16.06 | pcj | damage dealers |
| 04:16.44 | Lukian | cheers pcj |
| 04:22.34 | zeal | faiiiil is all i have to say |
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| 04:24.44 | Lukian | quamaretto, I'm thinking the article should be renamed |
| 04:24.52 | Lukian | oh nm |
| 04:24.57 | Lukian | I misread the title ^^ |
| 04:26.10 | Lukian | pcj, /sigh |
| 04:26.11 | Lukian | "If a dps and a tank both require attention" |
| 04:26.22 | Lukian | How many places is dps used in this context? :/ |
| 04:27.15 | pcj | what? |
| 04:27.26 | Lukian | It doesn't read well |
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| 04:27.37 | wired | hi people |
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| 04:31.38 | pcj | if a damage dealer and a tank |
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| 04:32.56 | quamaretto | I was more thinking that the whole article was a bit skewed against healers in terms of "apologize if someone dies" and so forth... |
| 04:35.01 | quamaretto | But if no one else sees that I'd chalk it up to my raging persecution complex |
| 04:36.37 | Lukian | quamaretto, I found the apologise point a bit odd, but if people like hearing the word sorry, and a healer has no issue saying it, why not? :) |
| 04:37.32 | quamaretto | Because it's not the healer's fault if someone over-aggros. |
| 04:37.51 | Lukian | "Sorry, your fault" :p |
| 04:39.26 | quamaretto | Also that article isn't actually linked anywhere... |
| 04:39.41 | quamaretto | That may be my fault, I linked the main article to Healing Classes instead awhile back |
| 04:41.43 | Lukian | I was thinking it should be linked under (or embedded to Instance Grouping Guide) |
| 04:42.50 | quamaretto | It was at one point... but the Instance Grouping Guide itself was a pretty biased and I didn't want to fix all the external pages... |
| 04:45.02 | quamaretto | Geez, every page with healing has some raging anti-druid implying that priests are better |
| 04:46.51 | Lukian | quamaretto, I just found it written from priest perspective |
| 04:46.51 | wired | dont ever blame a priest |
| 04:47.08 | wired | unless he sucks at healing |
| 04:47.22 | quamaretto | I don't mind being blamed... especially if I'm in shadowform DPSing. |
| 04:47.31 | wired | well |
| 04:47.36 | wired | you can blame shadow priests |
| 04:47.41 | wired | cause they over aggro |
| 04:47.42 | quamaretto | But I only do that when I'm grouped with 4 hunter/warlocks. |
| 04:47.54 | wired | using ve vp mind blast and mind flay |
| 04:48.04 | wired | vt* |
| 04:48.08 | quamaretto | Yeah... I can't touch VE anymore in groups... |
| 04:48.28 | quamaretto | VT isn't bad though, especially with only 2-3 casters around. |
| 04:48.46 | wired | if you have ve vt sw pain mind blast followed by a sw death |
| 04:48.50 | wired | you will over aggro |
| 04:48.59 | quamaretto | I know. That's why I don't do that. |
| 04:49.07 | wired | i used to do it |
| 04:49.12 | wired | but then i went holy |
| 04:49.30 | wired | because i hated fighting for dps cloth gear with locks and mages |
| 04:50.02 | wired | sad |
| 04:50.11 | wired | ive only played a priest |
| 04:50.14 | wired | no other class |
| 04:50.26 | wired | i love to heal |
| 04:50.38 | quamaretto | I'm working on my druid so I can be a viable tank AND healer with one spec by outland... Save all the idiot PUGs... |
| 04:53.15 | wired | are shaman's good healers? |
| 04:54.25 | quamaretto | Apostrophe does not go there. *twitch* |
| 04:54.41 | wired | my bad |
| 04:55.21 | quamaretto | Sorry, I obsess over random things even though I get the other half wrong... |
| 04:55.33 | wired | so you dont know if shamans are good healers? |
| 04:55.55 | wired | i appreciate that correction |
| 04:55.59 | wired | i'm a moron |
| 04:56.28 | quamaretto | Shamans have Chain Heal and Earth Shield, unique to their class |
| 04:56.55 | wired | see, i like being a healer, i just want to try a different healing class |
| 04:57.00 | wired | druids good? |
| 04:57.13 | quamaretto | I have a resto-druid, I love it. |
| 04:57.30 | wired | its just you cant beat pw shield |
| 04:57.35 | wired | prayer of mending |
| 04:57.47 | wired | binding heal |
| 04:57.54 | quamaretto | Earth Shield is like a PoM with way more benefit to tanking. |
| 04:58.01 | wired | really? |
| 04:58.07 | wired | i know nothing of shamans |
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| 05:07.10 | quamaretto | I never played my shaman up past 30, so I couldn't tell you from experience |
| 05:09.29 | quamaretto | Druids are quite a bit more fun to level, I think... |
| 05:13.26 | wired | nice |
| 05:13.41 | wired | i dont play wow anymore but if i do again ill try a druid |
| 05:16.06 | quamaretto | Actually me neither ATM... I'm off for christmas season, since the family is all home |
| 05:17.49 | wired | i wish i played |
| 05:17.54 | wired | i get too addicted |
| 05:18.02 | wired | and end up having no social life |
| 05:18.13 | Sky2042 | ^ but not to such an extent |
| 05:18.22 | wired | now i just read lore and chill |
| 05:18.40 | Sky2042 | good channel to be in for that kind of stuff =) |
| 05:18.40 | wired | i party with my friends |
| 05:19.10 | wired | but i still miss wow though |
| 05:19.15 | wired | only when im bored |
| 05:19.26 | wired | i never think about it when im out at a bar or at work |
| 05:21.03 | wired | oh snap |
| 05:21.05 | wired | my bad |
| 05:37.58 | Arideni | Oh, snap! |
| 05:38.12 | Arideni | ^_^ |
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| 05:46.18 | Sky2042 | Dotted: Here? |
| 05:47.18 | Dotted | mehbe |
| 05:47.41 | wired | lol |
| 05:47.50 | wired | ari you there? |
| 05:47.58 | Dotted | Sky2042 |
| 05:48.21 | Sky2042 | seen http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/21/wow-insider-and-massively-special-wow-24-7-feed/ ? |
| 05:49.51 | Dotted | is it any good? |
| 05:50.39 | Sky2042 | dunno. i haven't checked it out. |
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| 05:50.55 | Sky2042 | assumably, it has about the same quality of posts as wowinsider |
| 05:51.03 | Sky2042 | treat that as you will |
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| 05:51.39 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Panther_Ancient |
| 05:51.47 | Dotted | hmm |
| 05:52.01 | Lukian | Sky2042, haha nice answer ^^ |
| 05:52.14 | Sky2042 | : |
| 05:52.16 | Sky2042 | :) |
| 05:52.24 | Sky2042 | I liked the new guy posting about AV |
| 05:52.31 | Sky2042 | nice that he took references from AoW |
| 05:52.50 | wired | baggins rocks |
| 05:52.50 | Arideni | Wired: hey |
| 05:52.56 | wired | hey ari |
| 05:52.59 | wired | what up bro? |
| 05:53.08 | Arideni | nothin' much |
| 05:53.18 | wired | you're up late on this cold nc night |
| 05:53.26 | wired | dude |
| 05:53.32 | Arideni | yeah kinda gettin' there |
| 05:53.34 | wired | i got a story to tell you man |
| 05:53.40 | Arideni | wow lol didn't know it was 1 |
| 05:53.57 | wired | i was at work tonight and around 430 i got elbow'd by some dude at the mall |
| 05:53.57 | Bagginsww | so if the obsidan statue are based off an ancient does that mean they predate ahn qiraj? |
| 05:54.15 | Arideni | =0 |
| 05:54.19 | wired | he was in a store yelling and swearing and i told him to leave, i think he was high on crack or meth |
| 05:54.34 | Bagginsww | or something the ancient did lead to ahn qiraj venerating him? |
| 05:54.47 | wired | he refused first, then finally he left and as we were walking out he through a fist at me and missed but connected with an elbow |
| 05:55.04 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: can you move http://www.wowwiki.com/Battlegrounds to [[Battleground]] for me? |
| 05:55.06 | Arideni | ouch, did you get him then for assault? |
| 05:55.20 | wired | i then took his wrist, twisted it and brought him face first to the ground |
| 05:55.27 | wired | knocked the wind right out of him |
| 05:55.30 | Bagginsww | ok what's at battleground? |
| 05:55.32 | wired | he started to cry |
| 05:55.34 | Bagginsww | before I delete it |
| 05:55.41 | Sky2042 | an RD |
| 05:55.43 | wired | no |
| 05:55.45 | wired | no assault |
| 05:55.56 | Bagginsww | done |
| 05:55.57 | wired | too much paperwork bud |
| 05:56.17 | wired | so many people around watching me |
| 05:56.22 | wired | they all clapped for me |
| 05:56.40 | wired | i got free food at chic fil a and free coffee at starbucks |
| 05:56.43 | wired | yeayah!!! |
| 05:57.11 | wired | chic fil a = ownage |
| 05:58.32 | Arideni | haha |
| 05:58.38 | Arideni | I would have done the paperwork, though |
| 05:58.52 | wired | yeah well i didnt |
| 05:59.04 | wired | takes too long and he wasnt worth it |
| 05:59.11 | wired | he was a douche bag |
| 05:59.24 | Arideni | hehe probably why I would have, =P |
| 05:59.45 | Arideni | nah I'm a standards kinda guy I probably would do paperwork for anything |
| 06:00.09 | wired | you do wow trading card game? |
| 06:00.13 | wired | you collect cards? |
| 06:01.06 | Arideni | no funds for that hobby atm, but I have played TCGs in the past |
| 06:01.17 | Arideni | Magic has some wonderful, wonderful artwork |
| 06:01.18 | wired | i wish i knew how to play |
| 06:01.35 | wired | i never played card games like that |
| 06:01.39 | Arideni | Actually, I do have one WOW tcg card, it came with the Sunwell Trilogy Ultimate Edition |
| 06:01.40 | wired | i play drinking games |
| 06:01.47 | wired | oh man |
| 06:01.48 | wired | see |
| 06:01.49 | Arideni | I never drink, so =P |
| 06:01.54 | wired | another story for you |
| 06:01.59 | wired | i was in the bookstore tonight |
| 06:02.04 | Arideni | ! |
| 06:02.08 | wired | i saw that ultimate edition |
| 06:02.17 | Arideni | btw they overcharged for it in books a millioin |
| 06:02.18 | wired | i tried reading the back |
| 06:02.21 | wired | yes |
| 06:02.26 | wired | i was in books a million |
| 06:02.28 | Arideni | it's like 20$ on amazon, not sure with shipping though |
| 06:02.30 | wired | its like 30 bucks |
| 06:02.46 | Arideni | I paid 27$ -_- it was like 2% off and another buncha % if you're a member |
| 06:03.01 | wired | then i found war of the ancients archives and i was reading that |
| 06:03.02 | Arideni | so I figure perhaps 7$ is close to shipping costs, maybe I broke even |
| 06:03.12 | Arideni | Yeah? |
| 06:03.24 | wired | but i had to put it down cause people were looking at me weird |
| 06:03.38 | Arideni | lol |
| 06:03.39 | wired | i feel embarassed by reading warcraft books in the open |
| 06:03.54 | wired | i dont want people to think im weird |
| 06:03.57 | Arideni | I sort of do also |
| 06:04.18 | wired | like i sneak around when i buy a warcraft book at the store |
| 06:04.21 | Arideni | well, 9 mill ppl aren't weird, but it is nevertheless the way we were raised, =( |
| 06:04.28 | wired | i grab it real quick and go to the cash register |
| 06:04.52 | Arideni | Actually I sat down & started reading this Transformers book, trying to find this toy I had when I was little lol |
| 06:05.00 | Arideni | I found it, too |
| 06:05.14 | wired | at the books a million here they have the warcraft action figure toys |
| 06:05.15 | Arideni | like 300 pages of transformers pictures lol |
| 06:05.27 | Arideni | Yeah? |
| 06:05.30 | wired | yup |
| 06:05.34 | wired | dude |
| 06:05.50 | wired | i feel weird if i walk through the fantasy or manga/comic section |
| 06:05.56 | wired | i feel like people are watching me |
| 06:06.27 | Arideni | I walk to the back aisles & see who's looking at the sex mags in plastic bags, lol |
| 06:06.32 | wired | im a closet warcraft fan |
| 06:06.43 | wired | none of my irl friends know about this |
| 06:06.44 | Arideni | I think that's the funniest...people are always sitting on the little benches back there @ the magazine shelves |
| 06:07.12 | Arideni | Hunched over like, "yeah, no one's gonna see me checkin' this out, hehe" |
| 06:07.20 | wired | i really want to try that trading card game |
| 06:07.26 | Arideni | Just do it then! |
| 06:07.37 | wired | um |
| 06:07.43 | Arideni | You have to slowly work ppl up, who aren't accustomed to the game, pick them apart & find what appeals to them |
| 06:07.45 | wired | what am i gonna play with myself? |
| 06:08.06 | Arideni | If you can find just one thing they think is interesting, they'll hook themselves |
| 06:08.29 | wired | im trying to get my wife to let me play wow again |
| 06:08.40 | Arideni | Do eet! |
| 06:08.42 | Arideni | But |
| 06:08.45 | Arideni | You don't play |
| 06:08.47 | Arideni | get her to play! |
| 06:08.52 | wired | yes |
| 06:08.54 | wired | i tried |
| 06:08.54 | Arideni | Then she'll be asking you all the time |
| 06:09.02 | wired | she's like no way |
| 06:09.15 | Arideni | Because she views it a negative thing, associated with your behavior |
| 06:09.28 | wired | dude |
| 06:09.30 | Arideni | I mean, she wouldn't have wanted you to stop if she thought it was a great thing for you |
| 06:09.31 | wired | its not gonna work |
| 06:09.53 | Arideni | Some ppl are too stubborn, you're probably right |
| 06:10.14 | wired | she is stubborn |
| 06:10.26 | wired | once she's got something in her mind there's no turning back |
| 06:10.34 | Arideni | and they never forget. Anything. Ever. |
| 06:10.43 | wired | im going up to raleigh for a hockey game jan 12th |
| 06:10.50 | Arideni | Snap! which one |
| 06:11.04 | wired | carolina hurricanes vs colorado avalanche |
| 06:11.15 | Arideni | oo |
| 06:11.18 | wired | i just bought tickets |
| 06:11.20 | Arideni | sounds good |
| 06:11.24 | Arideni | home game, too |
| 06:11.28 | wired | im an avalanche fan |
| 06:11.33 | wired | thats why im going |
| 06:11.36 | Arideni | You think they're gonna lower the lease? |
| 06:11.40 | Arideni | Ah, pffsh |
| 06:11.45 | wired | what you mean |
| 06:11.46 | wired | afk |
| 06:11.48 | Arideni | They've got a great history |
| 06:11.49 | wired | bio |
| 06:11.56 | Arideni | The av's ** |
| 06:13.00 | wired | who has a great history? |
| 06:13.12 | Arideni | Wired: The RBC Centre is trying to get the land owner to drop the price of the lease (runs out I think in |
| 06:13.18 | Arideni | '12 or '19) |
| 06:13.25 | wired | why? |
| 06:13.31 | Arideni | Operating costs |
| 06:13.45 | wired | im going to a concert at the rbc center in april |
| 06:13.52 | wired | keith urban and carrie underwood |
| 06:13.58 | wired | ive never been there though |
| 06:13.58 | Arideni | It's been in the borderline red zone every year except when the canes go far in the playoffs, =( |
| 06:14.15 | Arideni | Should be a nice concert |
| 06:14.24 | Arideni | The lease is at 3 mil right now, they want to lower it to 2 mil |
| 06:14.34 | wired | dude |
| 06:14.44 | Arideni | per year* |
| 06:14.48 | wired | maybe sometime you should go to a canes game and ill go and we can meet |
| 06:14.59 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: are you even gonna use http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Obsidian_statue.JPG ? and that's from MG, isn't it? |
| 06:15.06 | Arideni | Yeah be a while tho, =( at least next yr |
| 06:15.10 | Bagginsww | going to delete and rename it |
| 06:15.16 | Bagginsww | it should be obsidian destroyer |
| 06:15.19 | Bagginsww | I actually messed up |
| 06:15.21 | wired | whatever its cool |
| 06:15.32 | Arideni | Canes are #1 in our division & tied for 5th in Eastern |
| 06:15.32 | wired | dude |
| 06:15.36 | wired | im depressed |
| 06:15.39 | Bagginsww | statues have the stone base under tyhem |
| 06:15.41 | wired | duke got beat last night |
| 06:15.56 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 06:16.11 | Arideni | Colorado has like 3 more points in the standings, should be a good game I only watch the sports section usually...we don't get cable here |
| 06:16.20 | Arideni | I'm a UNC fan |
| 06:16.33 | wired | unc can eat my balls |
| 06:16.38 | Arideni | haha |
| 06:16.41 | Arideni | it's all carolina baby |
| 06:16.50 | wired | my wife is a unc fan |
| 06:16.52 | wired | i hate them |
| 06:17.00 | Arideni | They're just tryin' to get their own |
| 06:17.02 | wired | i wish they could all die |
| 06:17.18 | Arideni | Pffsh! Don't say that, we had mike! Just imagine |
| 06:17.38 | wired | ill mind blast the hell outta mike |
| 06:17.42 | Arideni | LOL |
| 06:17.53 | Arideni | Yeah that's actually a fascinating question |
| 06:18.01 | Arideni | What class would Michael Jordan be, lol |
| 06:18.07 | wired | ROFL |
| 06:18.12 | Arideni | hm |
| 06:18.17 | wired | maybe a new wow commercial |
| 06:18.19 | Arideni | Too fast for pally imo |
| 06:18.30 | wired | he be a rogue |
| 06:18.40 | Arideni | Be like Mike! |
| 06:18.51 | Arideni | I thought about that, too...war or rogue I figured |
| 06:19.07 | wired | um |
| 06:19.26 | Arideni | He doesn't get beat on like a meat shield, he cuts through & 1 shot dunks it |
| 06:19.27 | wired | i dont think mike can do the foul line dunk with plate armor |
| 06:19.37 | Arideni | true true |
| 06:19.51 | Arideni | Shadowsteppin' |
| 06:19.51 | Arideni | lol |
| 06:19.56 | wired | rofl |
| 06:20.04 | Arideni | lmao that's it, he's a rogue |
| 06:20.14 | Arideni | 360 Shadowsteppin |
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| 06:20.34 | wired | ill still mind blast him |
| 06:20.44 | Arideni | hehe |
| 06:21.13 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: who are the red links at http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Kirin_Tor#Notable_members ? |
| 06:21.27 | Arideni | Yeah it says here the Av's are like tied with 3 other teams for #2 in western conf |
| 06:21.31 | wired | ari how old are you? |
| 06:21.35 | Bagginsww | Characters in The Last Guardian |
| 06:21.38 | Bagginsww | that need to be added |
| 06:21.47 | Sky2042 | all dead? |
| 06:21.49 | wired | moroes and cook |
| 06:21.50 | Sky2042 | or alive? |
| 06:21.53 | wired | garona |
| 06:21.53 | Bagginsww | unknown |
| 06:21.57 | wired | khadgar |
| 06:22.01 | Sky2042 | wait, TLG? |
| 06:22.05 | Bagginsww | they were Dalaran individuals |
| 06:22.14 | Sky2042 | oh, then they're prolly the dead ones. |
| 06:22.14 | Bagginsww | that sent Khadger to study information for him |
| 06:22.27 | Bagginsww | well if they get killed later I don't know |
| 06:22.46 | Bagginsww | one was a librarian as i recall |
| 06:23.01 | Bagginsww | one was the troll researcher |
| 06:23.14 | Arideni | I thought I was in #wowhead for the last 30 min |
| 06:23.24 | Arideni | way too late at night! |
| 06:23.36 | wired | what month ari |
| 06:23.44 | Sky2042 | loooooool |
| 06:23.58 | Bagginsww | it may be possible those 5 may have been part of the council during TLG period |
| 06:23.58 | wired | last guardian was kickass |
| 06:24.14 | Sky2042 | yeah, Medivh-Sargeras kills a few of them, if not all |
| 06:24.25 | Arideni | Sept |
| 06:24.32 | wired | medivh killed moroes and cook |
| 06:24.34 | Bagginsww | oh there is a scene where he goes to Dalaran? |
| 06:24.48 | Bagginsww | or kills them from afar with his mind? |
| 06:24.54 | Arideni | I haven't read anything except Sunwell Trilogy as far as stories go, just what I've seen online. My goal is to get some of the books, though. |
| 06:24.58 | Sky2042 | no, but it's implied, as they're killed by demons. |
| 06:25.02 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 06:25.05 | Bagginsww | minions sent out I see |
| 06:25.07 | wired | you can thank medivh for the epic drops you get from moroes |
| 06:25.23 | Arideni | I was reading on the Sunwell tonight, interested in the twin Eredar at the Sunwell Plateau |
| 06:25.32 | wired | ive read every warcraft novel, manga, and comic |
| 06:25.34 | Bagginsww | Kharazan in-game is strange, alot of the bosses are weird name drops without much explanation |
| 06:25.59 | Sky2042 | like Gorehowl |
| 06:26.01 | Sky2042 | :/ |
| 06:26.07 | Sky2042 | htf did Prince get that? |
| 06:26.19 | wired | ari what month is your bday? |
| 06:26.21 | Bagginsww | well I meant characters too |
| 06:26.38 | Bagginsww | like Shade of Aran is cool and all, but a backstory as to why he's haunting the place owuld be nice |
| 06:26.59 | wired | shade of aran is medivh's father |
| 06:27.01 | Bagginsww | or who dug up Moroes? |
| 06:27.06 | Bagginsww | well yes we know who he is |
| 06:27.11 | Bagginsww | just not why he's haunting the place |
| 06:27.24 | wired | cause he's a creepy bastard? |
| 06:27.26 | Sky2042 | Alonda's the troll lady |
| 06:27.44 | Bagginsww | basically last time we saw Kharazan it wasn't as whacked as it currently is |
| 06:27.57 | Bagginsww | sure you got strange visions and all |
| 06:28.01 | Bagginsww | but it was mostly normal |
| 06:28.03 | Arideni | Wired: Sept. |
| 06:28.12 | wired | i saw before my bad |
| 06:28.14 | wired | what day |
| 06:28.20 | Arideni | 8 |
| 06:28.23 | wired | oh |
| 06:28.28 | wired | mines october 21 |
| 06:28.33 | wired | october 21 1982 |
| 06:28.39 | Arideni | sah-weet |
| 06:28.51 | wired | ? |
| 06:29.01 | wired | you could've said sweet and that would've been fine |
| 06:29.11 | wired | rofl jk |
| 06:30.24 | Arideni | lol |
| 06:30.32 | Arideni | I like to bring my words to life. |
| 06:30.35 | wired | i drank too much beer tonight |
| 06:30.40 | wired | i need to go to bed |
| 06:30.43 | Arideni | I ate too much lol |
| 06:30.47 | wired | my face hurts |
| 06:30.50 | Arideni | my gut hurts |
| 06:30.54 | wired | i ate taco bell tonight |
| 06:31.27 | Arideni | I hate a pb&j sammich then some ice cream with my brother...to hold us over, we had leftover chicken later & boy we shouldn't have (it was from lone star) |
| 06:32.03 | Arideni | had** |
| 06:32.21 | wired | http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=267107058 |
| 06:32.53 | wired | thats my myspace |
| 06:33.10 | Arideni | I tried using a MySpace account & I was dumbfounded by the navigation...I closed my account after 30 min trying to understand it |
| 06:33.26 | Arideni | I'm generally left behind in the 80s & 90s lol |
| 06:33.37 | wired | you like 80s music |
| 06:33.43 | Lukian | Arideni, yeah, clicking "home" isn't very logical :/ |
| 06:33.52 | Arideni | yup |
| 06:34.14 | Arideni | Lukian: I had to edit my profile in order to find the account settings link, -_- |
| 06:34.26 | Arideni | So my dreams of bein' hip went down the drain lol |
| 06:34.54 | wired | dude ari |
| 06:34.59 | wired | go to my myspace page |
| 06:35.12 | Arideni | It says it's private |
| 06:35.32 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: how long was antonidas archmage? from end of 2nd war? from end of first? |
| 06:35.46 | Bagginsww | hmm, before first war |
| 06:35.49 | Bagginsww | erm second war |
| 06:35.53 | Bagginsww | at least |
| 06:36.05 | Arideni | Wired: trying to see if I can log in, but I can't find the log in button |
| 06:36.10 | Bagginsww | [[Alliance of Lordaeron]] |
| 06:36.11 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Alliance_of_Lordaeron |
| 06:36.18 | Arideni | nm, lol |
| 06:36.22 | wired | wait |
| 06:36.23 | wired | ari |
| 06:36.27 | wired | click on this |
| 06:36.27 | Bagginsww | Most likely pre first war |
| 06:36.31 | wired | http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=267107058 |
| 06:36.37 | Sky2042 | leader during second war, though |
| 06:36.49 | Bagginsww | well leader before second war |
| 06:37.18 | Bagginsww | Khadger mentions he was leader before the second war even begins |
| 06:37.28 | Bagginsww | and implies it had been for a long time |
| 06:37.32 | wired | lothar = leader |
| 06:37.38 | Arideni | You're very extroverted, it seems. Not me at all |
| 06:37.38 | Arideni | lol |
| 06:37.43 | Bagginsww | we are talking about Dalaran wired |
| 06:37.48 | Bagginsww | not the Alliance heh |
| 06:38.04 | Sky2042 | where does khadgar mention he was leader before 2nd? |
| 06:38.37 | Arideni | Wired: I got the link now |
| 06:39.33 | Bagginsww | when he first meets him, before they decided to create the alliance and before they decide to go to war. |
| 06:40.19 | Sky2042 | hmmm in which book, I ment |
| 06:40.25 | Bagginsww | Tides of Darkness |
| 06:40.36 | Sky2042 | mmm |
| 06:40.53 | Bagginsww | btw he didn't exist until he was invented in Warcraft III |
| 06:41.01 | Bagginsww | so don't go about trying to find him in Last Guardian or anything |
| 06:41.03 | Bagginsww | I doubt he's there |
| 06:41.34 | Bagginsww | Warcraft III was the first source to establish he was the "Leader of the Kirin Tor" |
| 06:41.39 | Sky2042 | not gonna try |
| 06:43.13 | wired | who didnt exist until wc 3? |
| 06:43.44 | Bagginsww | Antonidas |
| 06:44.03 | wired | correct |
| 06:44.16 | wired | he was in tides of darkness novel though |
| 06:44.27 | Bagginsww | he was retroactively added into history by Tides of Darkness |
| 06:44.33 | Bagginsww | I mean into that era |
| 06:44.40 | wired | thats why they made the novel |
| 06:44.53 | Bagginsww | no they made the novel because it would be fun ;) |
| 06:44.53 | wired | and thats why they're making beyond the dark portal novel |
| 06:45.11 | wired | they need to make Orcs vs Humans novel |
| 06:45.11 | Bagginsww | they aren't making it just to retroactively add material, but because it will sell |
| 06:45.25 | Bagginsww | people want to read the story in more detail |
| 06:45.45 | Bagginsww | yes I agree Orcs vs. Humans should be written |
| 06:45.57 | Bagginsww | and then Reign of Chaos, and TFT |
| 06:46.14 | wired | i agree |
| 06:46.21 | Bagginsww | bets there will be a novelization of the movie too |
| 06:46.34 | wired | is there going to be a movie? |
| 06:47.07 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Warcraft_movie |
| 06:47.51 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
| 06:47.53 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 2576 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 42mins 56secs. |
| 06:49.10 | wired | i hope the movie doesnt suck |
| 06:49.27 | wired | i think real people will blow |
| 06:49.36 | wired | it would be better with like pixar animation |
| 06:50.02 | Bagginsww | so is it just me but aren't Old Gods and Old God speculation kinda redundant? |
| 06:50.15 | Bagginsww | they both follow nearly the same format |
| 06:50.21 | Bagginsww | and cover nearly the same information :p |
| 06:50.31 | wired | blizzard needs to come out with a novel about old gods |
| 06:50.34 | Bagginsww | the speculation page goes beyond the main page somewhat |
| 06:50.34 | wired | and the titans |
| 06:50.45 | Bagginsww | well War of the ancients was the closest to a novel bout old gods |
| 06:50.49 | Bagginsww | but they were just a subplot |
| 06:51.05 | Bagginsww | to be honest I don't want the Titan's story |
| 06:51.10 | Bagginsww | they have totally screwed that one over |
| 06:51.23 | Sky2042 | ^ |
| 06:51.24 | Bagginsww | Sargeras now has two different versions of his stoyr :p |
| 06:51.24 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 06:51.46 | Bagginsww | and his new one isn't as detailed or interesting as his first |
| 06:51.51 | wired | concerning the eredar? |
| 06:51.57 | Bagginsww | not just eredar |
| 06:51.59 | Bagginsww | alld emons |
| 06:52.01 | Bagginsww | *all demons |
| 06:52.09 | Bagginsww | its implied that Sargeras predated the demons |
| 06:52.13 | Bagginsww | and created them all |
| 06:52.16 | wired | no |
| 06:52.20 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 06:52.22 | wired | demons are what turned him mad |
| 06:52.26 | wired | thats what i thought |
| 06:52.28 | Bagginsww | in the old story yes |
| 06:52.47 | Bagginsww | but since they changed the Eredar they decided to change all the demons |
| 06:52.52 | wired | old story is more credible |
| 06:52.53 | Bagginsww | Eredar were the first demon |
| 06:52.58 | Bagginsww | I agree with you |
| 06:53.06 | Bagginsww | then he used Eredar to create more demons |
| 06:53.11 | wired | yes |
| 06:53.11 | Bagginsww | [[sargeras]] |
| 06:53.12 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/sargeras |
| 06:53.15 | Bagginsww | covers both versions |
| 06:53.26 | wired | im going to believe the old version |
| 06:53.30 | wired | and leave it as that |
| 06:53.32 | wired | baggins |
| 06:53.38 | wired | we should make our own novel |
| 06:53.44 | Bagginsww | no thank you LOL |
| 06:54.02 | Bagginsww | well all versions of every story will get equal show time in the WoWWiki |
| 06:54.08 | Sky2042 | college students don't have time to write books, unless they're english majors... in which case, they're still not wrting books. :P |
| 06:54.22 | wired | im not in college |
| 06:54.26 | Bagginsww | well thesis papers are books :p |
| 06:54.33 | Sky2042 | touche |
| 06:54.41 | Bagginsww | but I'm not at that point yet |
| 06:55.09 | Bagginsww | I suppose only a handful of thesis ever get published though |
| 06:55.14 | wired | i want a novel that takes place after the war of the ancients but before orcs and humans |
| 06:55.19 | wired | and no |
| 06:55.36 | wired | not what you think like rise of the horde |
| 06:55.40 | wired | i mean on azeroth |
| 06:56.07 | wired | i want war of the 3 hammers |
| 06:56.16 | wired | troll wars |
| 06:56.30 | wired | arathor |
| 06:57.25 | wired | if they had a college major on warcraft id get an A |
| 07:00.19 | Lukian | wired, you mean you aren't enrolled in "Azerothian History"? |
| 07:00.20 | Sky2042 | wired: lol |
| 07:00.28 | Sky2042 | Lukian: lol > wired |
| 07:01.26 | wired | no |
| 07:01.29 | wired | im mental |
| 07:01.30 | wired | sorry |
| 07:01.36 | MentalPower|ZZzz | ? |
| 07:02.05 | wired | i need to go to bed guys |
| 07:02.07 | wired | take care |
| 07:02.15 | Bagginsww | Troll wars owuld be interesting |
| 07:02.15 | wired | have a good night everyone |
| 07:02.17 | wired | be safe |
| 07:02.37 | wired | baggins, sky, ari always a pleasure |
| 07:02.39 | wired | bye |
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| 07:11.35 | Sky2042 | haha, oops |
| 07:14.51 | Bagginsww | who is the leader of the reventusk and other hinterland forest trolls? |
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| 07:21.13 | Sky2042 | wouldn't it be the bitch in jintha'alor? |
| 07:21.41 | Sky2042 | no. |
| 07:21.43 | Bagginsww | maybe |
| 07:22.04 | Bagginsww | I think all the main leaders need to be listed on the Forest Troll npc box |
| 07:22.14 | Sky2042 | jintha is the capital... |
| 07:22.19 | Bagginsww | Zul'jin doesn't rule all of the forest trolls |
| 07:22.35 | Sky2042 | Leaders of Jintha'Alor are Vile Priestess Hexx and Hitah'Ya The Keeper. |
| 07:22.47 | Bagginsww | btw did you notice there are two forest trolls helping attack Zul'Aman? |
| 07:22.52 | Sky2042 | which is the capital of vilebranch |
| 07:23.16 | Bagginsww | thanks |
| 07:23.38 | Bagginsww | Hexx? what kind of troll name is that snicker ;) |
| 07:24.03 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 07:24.12 | Sky2042 | what kind of name is Zul'jin? eh? |
| 07:28.12 | Bagginsww | a normal two part troll name |
| 07:28.34 | Bagginsww | with non english terms |
| 07:29.21 | Bagginsww | well I suppose hex is technically german |
| 07:30.18 | Sky2042 | Aren't they "Hexxlords"? |
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| 07:30.50 | Bagginsww | or |
| 07:30.53 | Bagginsww | [[Hexer]] |
| 07:30.53 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Hexer |
| 07:31.39 | Bagginsww | I was just commetning that Hexx seems more like a nickname than an actual troll style name |
| 07:31.43 | Bagginsww | *commenting |
| 07:31.50 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 07:31.51 | Bagginsww | being as it uses a real world term |
| 07:32.19 | Sky2042 | btw, she's a bitch to kill |
| 07:32.21 | Sky2042 | :[ |
| 07:32.24 | Bagginsww | Hitah'ya sounds Zandali |
| 07:32.26 | Bagginsww | heh |
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| 07:43.30 | Sky2042 | winding it down... |
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| 13:51.22 | DuTempete-gf | Happy Saturday! |
| 13:51.39 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Merry Satmas! |
| 13:51.41 | DuTempete-gf | and (K) Kirkburn-gf|afk |
| 13:52.01 | DuTempete-gf | err... Kirkburn-bf|afk |
| 13:52.03 | DuTempete-gf | whatever |
| 13:52.22 | Kirkburn-bf | <insert kitteh smiley> DuTempete-gf |
| 13:52.53 | DuTempete-gf | <insert doggeh smiley> Kirkburn-bf! |
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| 14:04.45 | winkiller | phew, 15 lvl to go |
| 14:09.53 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Celebrate Twelve Days of Winter Veil with Ideazon! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/22/ideazon-day-one/ |
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| 14:44.22 | pcj | Bagginsww: wouldn't it be better to just redirect http://www.wowwiki.com/Faith_of_the_Holy_Light to Holy Light |
| 14:44.59 | pcj | Or...Light |
| 14:45.35 | Polarina | pcj: Just do circular redirects. |
| 14:46.24 | DuTempete-gf | Is that even possible to do, or will the software recognise it before it's saved? |
| 14:46.49 | pcj | No, MediaWiki doesn't let you have double redirects at all |
| 14:47.17 | pcj | Bagginsww: Weren't you looking for a troll ghost? http://www.wowwiki.com/T%27chali_the_Witch_Doctor |
| 14:47.17 | DuTempete-gf | You've forgotten to say hello to me, lately. :( |
| 14:47.54 | pcj | :( |
| 14:48.07 | DuTempete-gf | are you mad at me? :( |
| 14:48.22 | pcj | no ofc not! |
| 14:48.53 | DuTempete-gf | I hope not. |
| 14:49.16 | pcj | Did you figure out that JS table thing or did you want an example |
| 14:49.51 | DuTempete-gf | Naw, I'm not writing it, I just wanted expert verification that it's possible. |
| 14:50.05 | zeal | Baggins, why do i get the sinking feeling i'll be getting the reprint on the comic rather than the first print i ordered? : / |
| 14:50.16 | Zeal | *of the comic |
| 14:53.45 | Kirkburn-bf | lol = http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/wallpapers/wallpaper110.html |
| 14:56.00 | pcj | oh god i saw a female orc in the red winter clothes today >.< |
| 14:58.15 | Kirkburn-bf | Bagginsww, please don't make me have to remind you you don't immediately threaten people with bans >_> |
| 14:58.40 | Kirkburn-bf | (okay, so in a roundabout way I just did :P ) |
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| 15:05.55 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Sunrise over the swamp - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/22/around-azeroth-sunrise-over-the-swamp/ |
| 15:21.31 | Zeal | is it me or have world of raids changed their site's font? :S |
| 15:36.00 | Zeal | btw pcj, innerHTML was designed for HTML and not XHTML and is not part of the DOM, that's why it's use is discouraged. IE is using the HTML DOM not the XML DOM and thus can and will return elements in any case. Mediawiki serves xhtml as html and thus it goes through an SGML/HTML parser as expected, which converts to upper-case in IE when serialized and not an XML parser which would typically leave the case alone. So don't go j |
| 15:44.02 | Kirkburn-bf | Zeal, your comment finished at "So don't go" |
| 15:44.13 | pcj | shhh |
| 15:44.21 | Zeal | that's what i get for having my speakers off. |
| 15:44.33 | Zeal | *jumping on IE for doing something which it's expected to |
| 15:46.10 | Zeal | last night i discovered jagermeister and lemonade is yummy. |
| 15:46.57 | Kirkburn-bf | How are your speakers going to have any effect on that? o_O |
| 15:47.14 | Zeal | mirc beeps every character past the limit. |
| 15:47.18 | Zeal | well.. bongs |
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| 16:02.52 | wired | y0 |
| 16:07.36 | DuTempete-gf | omg zeal... that makes me want to vomit, just thinking abou tit... Jaegar and lemonaide... |
| 16:07.50 | DuTempete-gf | and y0 wired |
| 16:08.29 | wired | whats up? |
| 16:08.42 | wired | jager sucks |
| 16:08.50 | wired | drink tequila |
| 16:09.49 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Killing off our heroes left and right - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/22/killing-off-our-heroes-left-and-right/ |
| 16:15.15 | Zeal | it tastes like the cola flavouring in sweets and ice lollies |
| 16:17.05 | DuTempete-gf | reeeally... |
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| 16:17.18 | DuTempete-gf | where did you get the idea, zeal? |
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| 16:27.48 | Zeal | friend of a friend's ex-g/f |
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| 16:51.53 | tjn | wired, nothing wrong with jagermeister. |
| 17:05.52 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: Speed painting an orc - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/22/wow-moviewatch-speed-painting-an-orc/ |
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| 17:20.48 | Zeal | also nothing wrong with tequila, heh. |
| 17:24.06 | foxlit | Zeal: you probably missed it last time; color: inherit is CSS2 |
| 17:25.17 | zeal | yeah i double checked when i got up |
| 17:25.40 | zeal | though it seems 2.1 is more accurate. |
| 17:25.57 | foxlit | Either way, IE lacks any form of support |
| 17:26.59 | zeal | was actually loking about for an explanation. saw mention of it does support it, but if you use an id or class in your selector, it basically bugs and ignores the inherit. |
| 17:27.36 | foxlit | Rendering it rather moot |
| 17:27.43 | zeal | indeed, lol |
| 17:28.14 | foxlit | Anyway, anything you still see as not working in /Dev? |
| 17:28.43 | zeal | but then is it really so hard for you to just so li.class, li.class a {color: pink with yellow ribbons} ? |
| 17:28.51 | zeal | *do |
| 17:29.06 | foxlit | That's what I eventually had to do; it's just annoying |
| 17:29.20 | zeal | :p |
| 17:30.24 | zeal | i fixed bonus armor on mine, can probably shorten the code, but i'm not in the mood to do so atm. Haven't relooked at it yet, will do so now. |
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| 17:33.43 | zeal | i'd like to hear more about what you're planning with the mode and tooltip info pulling. seems like what i proposed previous but was shot down because people didn't want it in the articles. |
| 17:33.57 | zeal | *previously |
| 17:35.13 | zeal | liking the arg stuff. |
| 17:35.50 | zeal | didn't realize variable names could be dynamic like that. |
| 17:36.13 | foxlit | Mainly, since we're using item pages as a sort of massive data store, I wanted to be able to get non-standard stuff out of them |
| 17:36.52 | zeal | i know what you intend, just mean how exactly are you envisioning that it works. |
| 17:37.13 | foxlit | More helper templates that'd pull what they want out of the item page they're pointed to |
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| 17:41.03 | zeal | .. okay, i'll put it this way. item pages currently include {{tooltip|lots of lovely data}} and that is the only thing that gets displayed on inclusion of an item's page. you plan to put in some logic on item pages so that for example, people can do {{:Item Name|mode=link}} and {{:Item Name|mode=arg|arg=quality}}. basically, the logic you've added for modes in the template, should actually go in the article as is right? |
| 17:41.04 | [NewsBot] | zeal meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template::Item_Name |
| 17:43.28 | foxlit | Nah, logic would live in tooltip itself |
| 17:43.40 | foxlit | Item pages simply have to pass mode and arg on to tooltip :) |
| 17:45.05 | zeal | that basically doubles up on the logic, so i don't see the point. but w/e. I'll jsut be amused if that is implemented, as i offered the same design already and no one wanted it. |
| 17:45.55 | foxlit | There is no logic, as such, on the item pages themselves |
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| 17:46.34 | zeal | it's small, but it's still mode code to run than just putting in the mode logic into the item page. |
| 17:46.38 | zeal | lol |
| 17:46.43 | zeal | *more code |
| 17:49.40 | zeal | also worth considering splitting {{tooltip}} and {{loot}} into template for people to use and the template that actually does the work the other end. so instead of {{:Item Name|link}} might want to consider offering people {{loot|Item Name}} and then {{loot-display}} used as the output from the mode switch. |
| 17:49.45 | zeal | *templates |
| 17:50.32 | zeal | makes it a bit for generic and extensible then. |
| 17:50.54 | zeal | rather than putting all the focus on {{tooltip}} itself. |
| 17:53.31 | zeal | just accidentially opened about 80 websites at once.. |
| 17:53.38 | zeal | */me |
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| 18:03.48 | Zeal | that was fun :/ |
| 18:04.33 | Polarina | Vendors on gryffons and windraiders. xD |
| 18:09.00 | Zeal | as i was about to say. With the rest of the template, i don't like how you've done locked, which is the loss of open= and lack of interaction with it, incorrect colour as it no longer matches the known tooltip state colours (unfulfilled = grey, fulfilled = white, red should not be used), no skill level requirement produces a no skill requirement period, the skill requirement is in the wrong place (needs to be down with the oth |
| 18:09.59 | Zeal | and with bonus armor i'd still prefer to see null and non-null having seperate output. |
| 18:10.31 | Bagginsww | so kirkburn its not ok to warn people that information removal is a bannable offense? |
| 18:10.41 | Bagginsww | ahead of time? |
| 18:11.30 | Zeal | probably depends how you worded it, lol. |
| 18:11.44 | Zeal | informative or a threat :p |
| 18:12.43 | Bagginsww | well I was trying to be a bit tongue in cheek for one person the other day. They removed infromation from "pained", and I said that removal of information can lead to bans. So you could end up being "pained". |
| 18:14.36 | Bagginsww | *he removed, not "they" |
| 18:15.36 | zeal | lol |
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| 18:28.39 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Bagginsww, "please" goes a long way :) |
| 18:29.02 | Bagginsww | ok, :) Please will they stop removing information :) |
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| 18:36.28 | Fisker- | oooh |
| 18:36.30 | Fisker- | bornakk failed |
| 18:36.38 | Fisker- | or gave out information about not current lore |
| 18:36.46 | Fisker- | He seems to claim that Kael'Thas was kille |
| 18:36.49 | Fisker- | killed |
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| 19:01.47 | Fisker- | http://www.wowblues.com/us/good-job-at-killing-more-warcraft-heroes-bliz-3547877908.html |
| 19:02.57 | sacarasc | old Fisker- is old |
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| 19:20.25 | Fisker- | btw |Pixel| |
| 19:20.31 | |Pixel| | mh ? |
| 19:20.34 | Fisker- | wanna break some privacy laws? |
| 19:20.42 | |Pixel| | still not |
| 19:20.43 | |Pixel| | why ? |
| 19:20.44 | Fisker- | :< |
| 19:20.52 | Fisker- | need to find the name of a character |
| 19:21.00 | |Pixel| | hu ? |
| 19:21.26 | Fisker- | the character name of someone i know |
| 19:21.44 | |Pixel| | why don't you ask him ? |
| 19:22.00 | Fisker- | because he don't want to give it out :D |
| 19:22.22 | |Pixel| | so I believe he has a good reason for that |
| 19:22.28 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 19:22.44 | Fisker- | we want to get his name so we can gank him constantly |
| 19:23.09 | |Pixel| | that's indeed a very good reason for not giving the name out |
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| 19:34.46 | foxlit | Armory search is very weird :/ |
| 19:35.49 | foxlit | Take for example Mantle of Magical Might <http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=25718> |
| 19:36.22 | foxlit | I can't for the life of me figure out what's causing it not to match "Magical Might" |
| 19:36.53 | foxlit | In fact, it won't match Might :/ |
| 19:38.07 | Polarina | foxlit: That item has a space in the end if its name. |
| 19:38.22 | foxlit | So why doesn't it match Might? |
| 19:38.46 | Polarina | No idea. |
| 19:39.33 | foxlit | How do you know it has a space at the end of its name? |
| 19:39.53 | Polarina | Don't ask me. |
| 19:40.03 | foxlit | If I told you there isn't. |
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| 19:42.04 | foxlit | It doesn't, actually. |
| 19:44.24 | pcj | Dun dun dun! |
| 19:44.33 | foxlit | pcj, though |
| 19:44.44 | foxlit | Typoed item names = not fun :) |
| 19:46.00 | foxlit | Plus stuff like http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Final_Reagents_%28Alliance%29 |
| 19:46.04 | foxlit | isn't in the game. at all. |
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| 20:03.25 | Bagginsww | pcj, well they were considered seperate articles in the RPG, Faith of the Holy Light, and Holy Light, I mean |
| 20:03.35 | pcj | :\ |
| 20:03.48 | Bagginsww | the main article is "Light" btw |
| 20:03.49 | pcj | hmm |
| 20:03.58 | pcj | yeah i realized that |
| 20:04.17 | Bagginsww | main reason being that draenei and blood elves believe or use light but dont' believe in holy light |
| 20:04.31 | Bagginsww | there interpretation is just the "light" |
| 20:04.35 | pcj | i don't see the difference between faith of the holy light and holy light tho |
| 20:04.53 | Bagginsww | it was a religion title is all I know |
| 20:05.25 | Bagginsww | Church of the Holy LIght is another |
| 20:05.31 | Bagginsww | faith and church might relate |
| 20:06.00 | pcj | should they be separate articles if they're worshipping the same thing then |
| 20:06.17 | Bagginsww | it sounds more like faith of the holy light is speaking of the churhc |
| 20:06.34 | Bagginsww | not sure why the rpg had them split into seperate article headings though |
| 20:06.43 | Bagginsww | maybe because not all who practice the faith are part of the church, maybe? |
| 20:06.44 | pcj | odd |
| 20:06.51 | Bagginsww | like crusaders |
| 20:07.45 | zeal | doesn't answer the question as to holy light vs. faith/church though. they could both easily be sections under that article unless theres a good reason. |
| 20:07.56 | Bagginsww | the religions on the list were, "Ancients of the Night Elves", Faith of the Holy Light, Sect of the Dragons (which is actually different religons one for each dragon, and Cult of the Burning Legion, as I recall |
| 20:08.34 | Bagginsww | well the quesiton is where to put it if we merge it |
| 20:08.50 | Bagginsww | the light article is broad one |
| 20:08.56 | Bagginsww | church is more specific |
| 20:09.38 | Bagginsww | Faiths of Azeroth There are several sources of faith from which to draw power in the world of Warcraft. Below are some of |
| 20:09.39 | Bagginsww | the more prevalent faiths, and the domains to which their priests have access. |
| 20:09.43 | Bagginsww | The Ancients of the Night Elves |
| 20:09.48 | Bagginsww | The Faith of the Holy Light |
| 20:09.52 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Your guide to dailies: Skettis - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/12/22/your-guide-to-dailies-skettis/ |
| 20:09.52 | Bagginsww | The Cult of the Burning Legion |
| 20:09.58 | Bagginsww | The Sect of the Dragons |
| 20:10.04 | Bagginsww | that'st he quick run down of the rpg article |
| 20:10.39 | pcj | i thought you said faith of the holy light was separate from holy light in that article |
| 20:10.52 | Bagginsww | and then the other article was "The Holy Light" |
| 20:10.53 | pcj | it seems to me that holy light isn't mentioned except as faith of the holy light there |
| 20:10.58 | pcj | ah |
| 20:11.25 | Bagginsww | we could merge them under a "Faith" article I suppose |
| 20:11.36 | Bagginsww | so the context is better kept |
| 20:11.42 | zeal | why not under holy light? |
| 20:11.49 | Bagginsww | there is no holy light article |
| 20:11.54 | Bagginsww | its the "light" |
| 20:12.38 | Bagginsww | I think what the rpg was implying was there are those that worship Holy Light, but its split across several religions. |
| 20:12.44 | zeal | based on what was said, i sounded like there was. |
| 20:12.46 | Bagginsww | different domains |
| 20:12.57 | Bagginsww | we moved holy light to light |
| 20:13.08 | Bagginsww | because draenei don't believe in "holy" |
| 20:13.12 | Bagginsww | just the light |
| 20:13.15 | zeal | i know |
| 20:13.32 | zeal | just sounded as if there was a holy light article. |
| 20:13.33 | Bagginsww | and blood knights don't believe in holy or the light, just power |
| 20:13.50 | Bagginsww | light is just a source of power |
| 20:13.51 | zeal | of the same name |
| 20:14.22 | Bagginsww | well the distinction is different, they believe there is a power called light, but to them its neither holy or good. |
| 20:14.32 | Bagginsww | its just power |
| 20:14.33 | zeal | ..i know |
| 20:14.37 | Bagginsww | bbl |
| 20:14.42 | zeal | kk |
| 20:14.50 | bleeter | OMG! |
| 20:14.55 | bleeter | Jesus is AFK! REPORT HIM! |
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| 20:31.25 | wired | hey |
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| 21:19.20 | Taurmindo | what's the name of the info thingy to put on pages who are only used for inclusion to other pages? |
| 21:19.24 | Taurmindo | trans-something..? |
| 21:20.33 | Sandwichman2448 | transclution |
| 21:20.47 | Sandwichman2448 | err |
| 21:22.21 | Sandwichman2448 | Transcludable |
| 21:22.26 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah |
| 21:22.43 | Sandwichman2448 | [[Template:Transclude]] |
| 21:22.43 | [NewsBot] | Sandwichman2448 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Transclude |
| 21:23.09 | Taurmindo | aaaah, thanks alot. have been searching for long. :) |
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| 21:48.28 | Sandwichman2448 | Is [[User:Kirochi/Felkarr]] funny? The LOLs have died. |
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| 22:05.12 | Taurmindo | funny, i was checking out that page earlier, for some reason.. ;P |
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| 22:17.31 | foxlit | {{#if:{{{icon|}}}|{{Icon|{{{icon}}}|{{{stack|}}}|{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|{{{disambigpage|{{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{NAMESPACE}}:{{{name|{{PAGENAME}}}}}|{{{name|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}}}}}|3|4}}|float=right|margin=0}}}} |
| 22:18.05 | Kalroth | It's lisp! |
| 22:21.15 | zeal | ? |
| 22:21.24 | Gnarfoz | ~lisp |
| 22:21.25 | infobot | lisp is, like, a theory that unexpectedly became a programming language http://paulgraham.com/icad.html |
| 22:21.50 | Gnarfoz | if in doubt, ask purl :> |
| 22:22.08 | Gnarfoz | purl > infobot! |
| 22:22.16 | zeal | was more a question as to why foxlit was pasting that code from {{tooltip}} |
| 22:22.44 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 22:23.01 | Gnarfoz | you didn't go into too much detail ^^ |
| 22:23.13 | zeal | indeed, ty tho :p |
| 22:25.49 | foxlit | Because it's virtually impossible to read that directly |
| 22:26.33 | zeal | point? not meant to be read :p |
| 22:26.54 | foxlit | Everything is meant to be read |
| 22:27.57 | zeal | only to a dev, who funny enough, should be able to read that already. |
| 22:28.50 | zeal | hm.. did i really use numbered presets for icon sizes? :S |
| 22:29.12 | zeal | dunno why i didn't name them more appropriately. |
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| 22:31.13 | Sandwichman2448 | Voluspå made my jaw drop. |
| 22:32.00 | zeal | flashed? |
| 22:32.18 | Sandwichman2448 | No. |
| 22:32.23 | zeal | :p |
| 22:32.34 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AVolusp%C3%A5&diff=1053225&oldid=1007911 |
| 22:34.41 | zeal | so not all item pages would have to provide "home=any value" foxlit? : / |
| 22:34.45 | zeal | *now all |
| 22:35.01 | foxlit | Yes |
| 22:35.17 | foxlit | What's your point? :) |
| 22:35.33 | pcj | wait, home should usually = name or disambigpage right |
| 22:35.47 | foxlit | No, it's a flag |
| 22:36.44 | zeal | idea is the template was aware of where it was being used and changed accordingly, without end users having to intervene. |
| 22:36.59 | zeal | aye, flag. null falg would be nice. |
| 22:37.04 | zeal | *flag |
| 22:37.04 | foxlit | They already have to intervene |
| 22:37.16 | zeal | no? |
| 22:37.19 | foxlit | float. |
| 22:37.55 | Sky2042 | bum bum bum bummmmmmm |
| 22:37.56 | zeal | that's not an argument to change it, it's an argument to make float change accordingly. |
| 22:37.57 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 22:38.52 | zeal | besides, the default of left was there because of how i intended it to be used, suprised no one changed the default to right or made it change based on where it was used already. |
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| 22:50.08 | zeal | pcj, even though you'll probably just as dismissive as usual, is there any good reason you're still waiting for previous requests to finish (meaning the user will end up with the wrong tooltip displaying for their current link) and still not aborting unfulfilled requests on hide (meaning lagged tooltips appear off links)? Other than the fact it's because i suggested it to you that is.. |
| 22:50.20 | zeal | *be just |
| 22:51.46 | Skymas | I wanna' know why the tooltips don't obey normal js rules (conventions?) and appear correctly with regard to the amount of space available on-screen :/ |
| 22:54.57 | zeal | hm? er.. if i'm following you correctly, it;s because pcj made it so it compensates for scrolling and how much room there is left to display it on the client's current area of view. |
| 22:55.15 | Skymas | mm... |
| 22:55.52 | Skymas | why scrolling though? :/ eg: a search using wowhead, doesn't matter how much I scroll. the majority of the template will always appear on the current screen-space |
| 22:56.03 | Skymas | s/template/item/ |
| 22:56.13 | Skymas | s/item/tooltip/ |
| 22:56.17 | Skymas | lol |
| 22:59.24 | zeal | er.. i'm confused. Isn't the way pcj has done it providing the most desirable result? Tooltip always fits inside the client's view rather than partly outside it. Or isn't it doing that? :s |
| 23:02.53 | zeal | i tried to disesemble his code for it when i wrote my own, i failed, lol. Honestly surpised there isn't a simpler method for such tracking natively supported. As usual no 100% cross-browser functionality, have to adjust for each way of doing it :/ |
| 23:04.22 | Skymas | it isn't doing that on my browser, zeal :/. If the loot link is in the bottom half of the page, the item sometimes displays in the bottom half, sometimes in the top half. Naturally, displaying in the top half (eg, above the cursor) would display more of the tooltip. |
| 23:05.17 | zeal | got an exmaple to link to? |
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| 23:08.29 | Skymas | uh, I would... except I think pcj just broke his code... :/ |
| 23:08.59 | Skymas | I can't get a tooltip to display |
| 23:09.36 | zeal | :( |
| 23:10.04 | zeal | might be a cache problem, as the changes he made were moving functionality to a seperate script. |
| 23:11.36 | Skymas | anyway, bbl. have to get an xmas tree |
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| 23:44.57 | foxlit | pcj: ping |
| 23:56.12 | pcj | the code has to take into account the height (and width) of the tooltip itself as well |
| 23:56.18 | pcj | what |
| 23:56.34 | foxlit | You don't do any sort of checking on the items you tag for foxbot? |
| 23:57.02 | pcj | A little, I figure most of the problem resolution will be after Foxbot runs through it |
| 23:57.21 | foxlit | It'll error silently at the moment, so obviously that's not a lot of help :/ |
| 23:57.54 | foxlit | Spent the last hour or so shuffling through the gutter of the queue tagging pages for speedy deletion :/ |
