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00:19.21Charitwo[[User:Adonzo]]  http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Adonzo&diff=1767139&oldid=1727565&rcid=1758070 * Adonzo * (-1907) Replacing page with 'Really? Ads in the MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING PAGE? Ads for bullshit guides no less. Consider this my resignation.'
00:19.21DottedCharitwo meant: www.wowwiki.com/User:Adonzo
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06:52.44DottedAckis meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:TCG
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06:53.26DottedAckis meant: www.wowwiki.com/Template:tcgsets
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10:21.49Fisker-post some fucking ptr patches
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15:41.33sacaraschttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Azuremyst&n=Beelsebub
15:41.36sacarascI am shocked
15:41.51sacarascThough someone will probably show me something worse
15:42.27selckin#care
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15:58.45syberghostAchievement whore.
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17:06.55Isabani got irc to work
17:06.57Isabani hope
17:08.06sacarascNo, you haven't
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17:08.17Isabanthat sucks
17:09.14syberghostIs your computer plugged in?  Is it turned on?
17:09.46Isabanno
17:10.18Isabanit's off and the power cords sitting behind it
17:14.05syberghostPlug it in, then turn it on.  HTH.  HAND.
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19:14.50Fisker-giev ptr :(
19:15.27syberghostDCCs Fisker- one ptr
19:15.55Fisker-it's coming
19:15.56Fisker-TODAY
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19:17.21Fisker-g0urra
19:17.22syberghostg0urra gives Fisker- a Pretty Terrific Rimjob
19:17.23Fisker-i love you
19:18.37syberghostlol.  A couple of years ago I tried a trial of Star Wars Galaxies, and never managed to leave the starting area because it was so buggy.
19:18.48syberghostNow they're sending me an email wanting me to "come back".
19:19.28syberghostYeah, I'll get right on that.
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19:44.40AckisWork~seen kirkburn
19:44.42infobotkirkburn <n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 7d 2h 6m 47s ago, saying: '191g, that's unchanged right?'.
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20:17.50winkilleryou are allowed to run around like headless chickens now
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21:56.19Fisker-mxs
21:56.24Fisker-sniffed some ptr patches yet?
21:57.38Amarandewhat's the thought on the new mana regeneration changes?
21:58.24sacarascI use Shamanistic Rage for mana regen ;p
21:58.36winkillerit's awesome
21:58.42winkillerplayed enhancement the first time today
21:58.44winkiller60->62
21:58.58sacarascIt's almost 0 downtime, eh
22:02.29AmarandeI'm not sure I like these mana regeneration changes
22:02.41sacarascI've not read them
22:02.44Amarandemainly due to a 'reality' reason rather than the 'in the ideal world' which I suspect Blizzard is designing based on
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22:02.52Amarandehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.1.0
22:05.58AmarandeI can tell what Blizzard's reasoning is: "top flight high end raid healers are making it difficult for us to make raids challenging for high end guilds, so we are going to nerf healers' mana regeneration to allow better encounter design decisions"
22:06.37AmarandeReality, however: "there are already generally not enough non-fail healers on most servers. this change will probably cause people to spend even more time LF Healer than ever before"
22:07.19Fisker-of course Amarande
22:07.32Amarandealso: because the change basically ensures that healers will go OOM over time, depending on how strong the impact is, there's going to be even more focus on pumping meters over skill than ever before
22:07.34Fisker-Dps and tanks can be retards and still get by
22:07.40Fisker-Healers are apparently not allowed to do that though
22:07.57Amarandefunny, when I heal, I usually find the task easy enough, and tend to blame the tank when things go wrong
22:08.24Fisker-Healing = harder than tanking and dps
22:08.25Fisker-end.
22:08.33Fisker-And next patch will solidify that
22:08.36AmarandeI guess it depends on what kind of instance you heal
22:08.53Amarandein a lot of five mans, mindlessly healing the tank while keeping a corner of your eye out on omen tends to do
22:09.07sacarascFisker-: How would you know? You play a class that can't do any of them things
22:09.16Fisker-no u
22:09.19Amarandefisker: wait, there's a class that can't heal, tank, *or* dps?
22:09.25Fisker-yeah
22:09.26Amarandeer, sacarasc
22:09.27Fisker-paladins
22:09.33winkillerlol
22:09.46sacarascAmarande: Only when talking to Fisker-
22:09.52Fisker-your mom
22:10.10winkillerFisker- is special. He can suck at every class AND role like no other
22:10.30Fisker-still your mom
22:10.33AmarandeFisker: which is exactly what the next patch *shouldn't* do
22:10.49AmarandeThe reality on most servers is that Blizzard needs desperately to make it -easier- to heal
22:10.59Fisker-eaxctly
22:11.13sacarascNeed to make it easier for me to press 1 button and win
22:11.14AmarandePoll time, HOW many of us when trying to do a five-man, tend to get a tank and three DPS together and then spend all day LF Healer
22:11.28Fisker-i don't do 5-mans lolol
22:11.29Amarandewtg, world of lfgcraft
22:11.59sacarascI have 4 or 5 very good healer friends before I even have to ask in guild, healers are quite common for me
22:12.00AmarandeFisker: what do you do once you're saved to all the raids, which can currently be blazed through in one night
22:12.09Fisker-sleep
22:12.12winkillerAmarande: was like it on 70. now we only lack dps in guild. and tanks in general
22:12.20sacarascRecently it's been tanks (during the day) that have been missing
22:12.33AmarandeI find the healers I've friended tend to be offline when I'm actually interested in going to an instance :|
22:12.34winkillerwe lack healers during the day and tanks late at night
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22:12.47Amarandeyou lack dps??
22:12.51Amarandehow the hell do you lack dps?
22:13.07winkillerwe have too many tanks and healers. simple
22:13.07Amarandeheck, throw a [Snowball] at some random person in Dalaran and you probably tagged half decent DPS
22:13.15winkillerno
22:13.29winkillerwe rogues generally outdps all pugs at VoA
22:13.31Amarandewhich reminds me, I need to grind out some more levels on my hunter so I can actually learn expert engineering
22:13.44Amarandewinkiller: HaT's been nerfed, didn't you hear?
22:14.00winkillerwe have no HaT rogue
22:14.10Amarandewhich is probably a good thing
22:14.20winkillerwas just saying. not our top mages outdps all pugs
22:14.22winkillerbut the mediocre dps
22:14.30Amarandeafter the healer nerfs, they'd otherwise probably have started insisting on huge groups of rogues for every raid PUG
22:14.58AmarandeI'm especially wondering what things like Naxx and Sarth3 will be like after 3.1.0
22:15.12Amarandeyou really can't add any more healers to a naxx group, or you'll start failing on things like thaddius
22:15.34winkillerhow many do you bring?
22:15.35Amarandeunless they really mean for dps to be meter maids even more than so many people insist on already
22:15.59Amarande*shrug* I actually haven't been to naxx, but I know about a third of the average 25 man raid is healers
22:16.24Amarandewhich doubtless will be barely enough or no longer enough, once the nerfs to healer mana go through
22:16.28winkillerthat'd be 8
22:16.32Amarandebecause, naturally, naxx is balanced for the current mana regeneration situation
22:17.05Amarandesarth3 is going to go the way of the dodo too I'd imagine
22:17.13Amarandeunless healers massively overgear the instance
22:17.46Amarandethough I imagine quite a lot of folks are going to be "sarth3 lulz. be geared for ulduar or gtfo this server"
22:18.13winkillerdunno, we're missing +2 and +3 still
22:18.22AmarandeAnd then you end up with the situation like it was in BC.
22:18.28winkilleralthough +1 wasn't hard if people don't fuck around
22:18.54AmarandeWhere by about this time last year, servers either had no place for fresh, undergeared 70's, or else they were full of train wreck guilds that wiped in Kara
22:19.29Amarandeit seems you never find good middle ground
22:19.52Amarandeoh, maybe you do, but I imagine that only happens on servers that are so high pop that it doesn't matter anyway, because you get home from work, go to log on, and by the time you get out of the logon queue it's time to get to bed for work tomorrow
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