| 00:07.20 | winkiller | oh right, I wanted to post |
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| 00:27.45 | pcj | "automatic new user welcoming" sounds like a dumb idea |
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| 01:42.34 | kd3 | rofl |
| 01:42.46 | kd3 | yet another problem report for the warhammer ad on portal:main |
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| 01:44.03 | kd3 | that makes 3 prs now at this point... har |
| 01:44.15 | kd3 | among all of the random comments I get about it otherwise |
| 01:44.16 | kd3 | >.> |
| 01:44.19 | Sky2042_afk | that makes me chuckle. |
| 01:45.07 | pcj | wait what ad |
| 01:45.15 | kd3 | log out and check the main page |
| 01:45.38 | pcj | and risk exposure to the monaco skin? no thanks |
| 01:46.59 | Sky2042_afk | pcj: There's a picture of it on the wiki somewhere... |
| 01:47.04 | Sky2042_afk | (I don't know where) |
| 01:47.20 | kd3 | check my edit to working with wikia. it's in that section |
| 01:47.22 | pcj | ill just punch in letters until i get it then |
| 01:47.26 | kd3 | soon as the page loads |
| 01:47.30 | kd3 | gah, slowwiki is slow |
| 01:48.27 | Sky2042_afk | WoWWiki:Disestablishmentarianistic WoWWikians Against the Use of Monaco |
| 01:48.34 | Sky2042_afk | Any way to make that longer? |
| 01:53.00 | pcj | *utilization |
| 01:53.18 | kd3 | monaco -> the monaco skin |
| 01:54.19 | Sky2042_afk | WoWWiki:Disestablishmentarianistic WoWWikians Against the Utilization of the Monaco Skin |
| 01:55.25 | Adys | WW:FM |
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| 02:12.20 | bleeter | *Against Any And All Utilization... |
| 02:13.01 | Sky2042_afk | WoWWiki:Disestablishmentarianistic WoWWikians Against Any And All Utilization of the Monaco Skin |
| 02:13.24 | pcj | under any circumstances |
| 02:13.58 | Sky2042_afk | WoWWiki:Disestablishmentarianistic WoWWikians Against Any And All Utilization of the Monaco Skin Under Any Circumstances |
| 02:15.34 | pcj | , whatsoever |
| 02:18.40 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww, did you come to the Deathwing conclusion on your own or did you see the discussion? |
| 02:18.49 | Bagginsww | both |
| 02:18.54 | Bagginsww | and it had other problems |
| 02:19.24 | Bagginsww | speculation sections if they exist at all shouldn't be smackdab in the center of hte article, and should be marked |
| 02:19.30 | Sky2042_afk | Ragestorm / Bagginsww, anything to add to the title of "WoWWiki:Disestablishmentarianistic WoWWikians Against Any And All Utilization of the Monaco Skin Under Any Circumstances, Whatsoever"? |
| 02:19.52 | Bagginsww | sorry no idea |
| 02:20.04 | Bagginsww | so fandy's move of the arthas novel |
| 02:20.10 | Sky2042_afk | oh, I have an easy one, pcj. |
| 02:20.13 | Bagginsww | to give it the full World of Warcraft title |
| 02:20.18 | Sky2042_afk | (idiot) |
| 02:20.25 | Bagginsww | that was my thought |
| 02:20.31 | Bagginsww | I just didn't want to say it to his face |
| 02:20.45 | Ragestorm | Sky2042_afk: + "in a million years"? |
| 02:20.57 | Sky2042_afk | At any time in the future work? |
| 02:21.16 | Sky2042_afk | WoWWiki:Disestablishmentarianistic WoWWikians Against Any And All Utilization of the Monaco Skin Under Any Circumstances, Whatsoever, In the Near or Present Future |
| 02:21.28 | Bagginsww | and since I get the feeling that an administration I do to anyone gets reverted by him... well I give up |
| 02:21.30 | Ragestorm | Sorry are we actually making that page, or is this "funsies" |
| 02:21.48 | Sky2042_afk | Ragestorm: I'm considering making the page just for giggles... |
| 02:22.43 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww: we do need to make a descision regarding titles as a whole. I think World of Warcraft should count as a trademark, not part of the title |
| 02:22.54 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 02:22.58 | Bagginsww | its a series name |
| 02:23.05 | Bagginsww | we know what series we are talking about here |
| 02:23.13 | Ragestorm | Sky2042_afk: well, making it any longer will likely short out some browsers |
| 02:23.16 | Adys | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Requests_for_adminship |
| 02:23.21 | Adys | post your opinion there please |
| 02:23.25 | Sky2042_afk | Ragestorm: Nonsense! |
| 02:23.28 | Adys | Im off to bed cant talk much about it atm |
| 02:23.31 | Adys | night |
| 02:23.49 | Sky2042_afk | (deadwiki is dead?...) |
| 02:23.59 | Sky2042_afk | nope, just slow. |
| 02:24.09 | Bagginsww | opinion of sandwich? |
| 02:24.27 | Sky2042_afk | probably kd3. |
| 02:24.55 | Bagginsww | the only time I've even included the title was when there was something like "Death knight" as a story title |
| 02:25.19 | Bagginsww | Warcraft: Death Knight clears things up a bit |
| 02:25.39 | Sky2042_afk | I do have a question for you |
| 02:25.46 | Ragestorm | I'll ask him about his opinions, it's an issue that's come up before |
| 02:25.53 | Sky2042_afk | Why the hell did you move all the race pages? |
| 02:26.03 | Sky2042_afk | Those just made absolutely no freaking sense. |
| 02:26.26 | Ragestorm | The final solution was the correction of a mistake made at the original split |
| 02:26.58 | Sky2042_afk | And what was wrong with "Forsaken", "Night elf", and etc? |
| 02:27.32 | Ragestorm | Which reminds me, I think we need to reformat the template now... |
| 02:27.40 | Sky2042_afk | gibbers. |
| 02:27.43 | Bagginsww | I thought I fixed it |
| 02:27.46 | Bagginsww | the template that is |
| 02:28.15 | Ragestorm | It links only to the stat pages, not the lore pages |
| 02:28.24 | Bagginsww | oh listing of both |
| 02:28.27 | Ragestorm | yea |
| 02:28.35 | Bagginsww | ya makes sense |
| 02:28.37 | Ragestorm | Sky:? |
| 02:28.54 | Sky2042_afk | Ragestorm: "And what was wrong with "Forsaken", "Night elf", and etc?" |
| 02:29.01 | Ragestorm | yes |
| 02:29.05 | Bagginsww | you can read the village pump for yourself |
| 02:29.20 | Ragestorm | I understood those pages were untouched |
| 02:29.26 | Bagginsww | they are |
| 02:29.34 | Sky2042_afk | Or you can give me the quickdown, because I don't want to wade through useless content. |
| 02:29.42 | Sky2042_afk | er, argumentation. |
| 02:30.12 | Bagginsww | there was a complaint over why we the main dwarf page and main undead page don't redirect to the player races. Since that is the title given to them in the character selection screen |
| 02:30.49 | Bagginsww | We decided since the player stat pages are purely about the stats, we'd compromise and use the ingame race name followed by player |
| 02:31.11 | pcj | wtf |
| 02:31.11 | pcj | guys this is wowwiki |
| 02:31.13 | pcj | conversation == spam |
| 02:31.14 | Bagginsww | and its not just the character selection screen but also the character bio screen |
| 02:31.16 | pcj | stop it |
| 02:31.29 | pcj | thanks |
| 02:31.41 | Sky2042_afk | lawls at pcj. |
| 02:31.53 | Bagginsww | so its a bit of change based on the game in mind |
| 02:32.20 | Bagginsww | since people still think the game should be the primary reason for the wiki |
| 02:32.30 | Bagginsww | WoWWiki and all that |
| 02:39.29 | Ragestorm | Right, right. So are there any other thoughts on the book title issue? |
| 02:40.28 | Sky2042_afk | Well, I do have one comment. Search Engine Optimization says we should leave where Fandy put it... |
| 02:40.34 | Sky2042_afk | Other than that, I say move it! |
| 02:40.38 | Sky2042_afk | (back) |
| 02:40.46 | Bagginsww | we have redirects |
| 02:42.33 | Ragestorm | Well, I don't like it, but if consensus and SEO want it that way, we should just make sure to standardize |
| 02:42.55 | Sky2042_afk | I don't really like it either. |
| 02:43.04 | Sky2042_afk | [[Arthas (novel)]] was fine enough for me. |
| 02:43.05 | Dotted | Sky2042_afk meant: www.wowwiki.com/Arthas_(novel) |
| 02:44.12 | Ragestorm | Well, since it has a subtitle, that should be included to |
| 02:44.14 | Ragestorm | *too |
| 02:46.21 | Sky2042_afk | well, yeah. |
| 02:50.53 | Eraclito | guys http://www.wowwiki.com/Druid_builds#Restoration what's the "better" spec for a resto druid for heroics or low raids? |
| 03:10.37 | pcj | yes |
| 03:11.04 | Sky2042_afk | no. |
| 03:21.04 | Sky2042_afk | Bagginsww: What's the name of the language of the Draenei? |
| 03:22.21 | Bagginsww | Draenei |
| 03:22.32 | Sky2042_afk | Got someone claiming it's |
| 03:22.39 | Sky2042_afk | "Draenish". Not on wiki though. |
| 03:22.49 | Bagginsww | maybe it appears as both in game? |
| 03:23.00 | Bagginsww | like dwarven/dwarvish |
| 03:23.17 | Bagginsww | I think there is one reference to goblinish in game as well. |
| 03:23.18 | Sky2042_afk | Well, it was used as a counter example to "Draenic"... |
| 03:23.26 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 03:23.46 | Bagginsww | its not like that language has appeared much in lore :p |
| 03:23.51 | Sky2042_afk | There do exist four items with the word "Draenish"... |
| 03:23.54 | Sky2042_afk | Sure. |
| 03:24.07 | Sky2042_afk | And a whole hell of a lot more with Draenic |
| 03:24.07 | Bagginsww | Draenish kind of like Orcish? |
| 03:24.18 | Bagginsww | description of where it comes from |
| 03:24.25 | Bagginsww | like Elvish |
| 03:25.20 | Sky2042_afk | I'm gonna' tell the both of them off. Ke ke. |
| 03:25.32 | Bagginsww | Draenei as the language has a single reference in the RPG, and the ingame language screen |
| 03:26.17 | Bagginsww | its a bit different than say Ursine being in the rpg, and Furbolg appearing as alternate name for the language in WoW and comics |
| 03:26.41 | Bagginsww | or the general Troll vs Zandali |
| 03:27.33 | Bagginsww | if a quest references something like "I speak draenish" , well then someone can cite it in the article LOL |
| 03:28.15 | Bagginsww | but then you have the problem of slang as well. How reliable was the person stating it? |
| 03:28.32 | Bagginsww | is that his colloquilism? |
| 03:31.29 | Bagginsww | ragestorm the reason for not utilizing legends as a series title, was because the term has its own meaning in other sources |
| 03:31.33 | Sky2042_afk | just fulltext searched the wiki. nothing. |
| 03:31.44 | Bagginsww | based on that quote from Medivh, joining the legends of the past |
| 03:32.33 | Bagginsww | I suppose I should probably start the article |
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| 03:35.00 | Ragestorm | Uhh, I don't think that'll be needed |
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| 03:50.31 | Bagginsww | well the concept of legends was linked into several pages. |
| 03:51.05 | Bagginsww | long before legends manga came out :p |
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| 04:06.44 | Ragestorm | Bagginsww, what criteria are you using for who is a legend? |
| 04:06.55 | Bagginsww | pure citation |
| 04:07.17 | Ragestorm | I have a very bad feel about this category |
| 04:07.20 | Bagginsww | nothing added nor removed that was already |
| 04:07.22 | Bagginsww | there |
| 04:07.25 | Bagginsww | same as eternal |
| 04:07.38 | Bagginsww | I'd suggest sticking to policy used in eternal |
| 04:07.45 | Bagginsww | only if a character is described as legend |
| 04:08.10 | Bagginsww | we can't allow fans to "interpret" who they think should and shouldn't be a legend |
| 04:08.20 | Ragestorm | I had a very bad feeling about that category, too. |
| 04:08.27 | Ragestorm | And the ancients category |
| 04:10.07 | Ragestorm | In each case, there wound up being a huge argument following by a confusing restructuring |
| 04:11.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nexus_Stalker kind of like someone mispelling ethereal, LOL |
| 04:14.39 | Bagginsww | ahh well I need to log soon |
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| 04:16.53 | pcj | http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0316092peoria1.html |
| 04:17.05 | Bagginsww | I suppose losely we'd have to allow whoever the main character of each story of the manga legends series too, although that's a stretch of the definition |
| 04:17.20 | Bagginsww | Tragg Highmountain for example |
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| 04:17.59 | Bagginsww | not sure though I think the legends series also quotes Medivh's legends speech :p |
| 04:18.05 | Bagginsww | in its introduction |
| 04:18.48 | Bagginsww | ahh well, we'll keep track of things |
| 04:18.53 | Bagginsww | take care all |
| 04:19.39 | Ragestorm | 'Night |
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| 07:28.19 | Bagginsww | peculiar is Rolandius making his own wiki? |
| 07:28.48 | Bagginsww | such activity for someone that's currently banned |
| 07:29.02 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Rolandius/Articles |
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| 15:48.28 | pcj | its alive! http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:GS?withJS=User:Pcj/gs.js |
| 15:50.49 | foxlit | has the obvious advantage of extending the lease of life on edited but invalid guild pages indefinitely |
| 15:53.58 | pcj | it uses the same method as the bot :P |
| 15:55.44 | pcj | obviously patrollers of the GS list will probably notice if a guild page is lingering at <10 days for a long time |
| 16:01.48 | foxlit | Hey, transclude Special:Editcount in your signature again :) |
| 16:02.09 | foxlit | I wonder if it still has adverse effects, and that's probably the fastest way to find out by crashing things. |
| 16:03.21 | pcj | lol |
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| 19:46.11 | pcj | http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090316/D96VCKSG1.html |
| 19:52.26 | selckin | new uniforms, confidense restored! |
| 19:52.30 | selckin | i like the way they think |
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| 21:13.57 | Sandwichman2449 | In his recent archival of his talk page, Rolandius not only archived ongoing discussions, he also regrouped the old discussions on his previous archives so that the new additions would fit into the three archives he already had. Is it worth it to revert? |
| 21:15.51 | pcj | people can do whatever they want with their talk page |
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| 21:18.51 | FullDolphinX | I did not know this. It potentially breaks any links to the discussions there, and it was a rude way of saying 'stop talking to me'. |
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| 21:30.39 | pcj | true |
| 21:30.43 | pcj | oh you're gone |
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