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| 17:17.36 | vjeux | hey |
| 17:17.43 | pcj_2 | #wowpedia |
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| 19:30.27 | Gunrun | so whats this about wowpedia? |
| 19:30.42 | Sky2042_afk | It's better than WoWWiki, because Wikia sucks. |
| 19:30.50 | pcj_2 | #wowpedia |
| 19:30.52 | Gunrun | so its official and whatnot? |
| 19:30.57 | Sky2042_afk | Gunrun: Yup. |
| 19:30.58 | pcj_2 | http://www.wowpedia.org |
| 19:30.58 | Sky2042_afk | Go go go. |
| 19:31.22 | FluffyCloud | Is there any way to know, from wowwiki.com, to go to wowpedia.org? |
| 19:31.22 | Gunrun | yes I know, but I thought maybe someone had just nabbed your content and replaced all instances of wowwiki with wowpedia |
| 19:31.30 | pcj_2 | no |
| 19:31.38 | pcj_2 | FluffyCloud: what do you mean |
| 19:32.01 | FluffyCloud | i mean, if you were using wowwiki, how would you know to go to wowpedia? |
| 19:32.16 | pcj_2 | we're trying to advertise as much as possible |
| 19:32.16 | Sky2042_afk | FluffyCloud: Announcements going out soonly. |
| 19:32.41 | Gunrun | did one of you guys just make that topic on SA? |
| 19:32.44 | Gunrun | cos thats how I found out |
| 19:32.49 | g0urra | .. o_O |
| 19:32.58 | Sky2042_afk | Gunrun: SA? |
| 19:33.00 | pcj_2 | yes one of our admins did |
| 19:33.02 | g0urra | something awful |
| 19:33.03 | Gunrun | Something Awful |
| 19:33.05 | g0urra | Gunrun: link |
| 19:33.10 | Gunrun | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3358602 |
| 19:33.50 | Gunrun | I've edited my post, im sorry |
| 19:35.12 | Gunrun | Sky2042_afk you won't be able to see that thread btw |
| 19:35.18 | g0urra | I have to pay to read it? hrm. |
| 19:35.34 | Gunrun | SA is honestly the best forum on the internet, if you want idiot free posting |
| 19:35.55 | Sky2042_afk | Gunrun: Just amend/add a new post to say it's official and that its supported by the admin crew who ran WoWWiki, without the crap that our corporate overlord Wikia was forcing on us. |
| 19:36.09 | Sky2042_afk | Now we have Curse as our corporate overlord. |
| 19:36.21 | Gunrun | urgh |
| 19:36.25 | Gunrun | is curse controlling your ads? |
| 19:36.38 | Sky2042_afk | Gunrun: Why? |
| 19:36.45 | Gunrun | Curse has been serving ads at me that try to throw keyloggers at me |
| 19:36.51 | Gunrun | but my AV catches them |
| 19:37.02 | Xtek | You sure they aren't false positives? |
| 19:37.04 | Xtek | Which AV do you use? |
| 19:37.22 | Gunrun | NOD32, and I know the signature names for the heuristically detected things |
| 19:37.24 | Gunrun | and its not those |
| 19:37.58 | Xtek | Do you know which site and which ad it might've been? |
| 19:38.25 | Gunrun | fraid not |
| 19:38.32 | Xtek | ok |
| 19:38.40 | Gunrun | if I could be arsed I'd sandbox curse and find out |
| 19:38.44 | Gunrun | but I can't so *shrug* |
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| 19:39.03 | Xtek | Well if it happens again would you mind taking a screenshot? |
| 19:39.05 | Sky2042_afk | Gunrun: Next time you hit it, SS it, get a url for the bad ad, and come report it to us. |
| 19:39.07 | Sky2042_afk | :D |
| 19:39.09 | Gunrun | alright |
| 19:39.25 | Xtek | That's not ok if that's actually happening. |
| 19:39.34 | Gunrun | I used to help admin a forum so I know bad ads are a pain in the dick to get rid of though |
| 19:39.44 | Gunrun | and to stop them actually happening |
| 19:40.50 | Xtek | yeah sometimes our ad partners sneak stuff in there but we try to stay on top of them |
| 19:41.04 | Gunrun | also one of your admins is a watch and woot poster lol |
| 19:41.23 | Xtek | huh? |
| 19:41.34 | Gunrun | fitness and fashion forum on SA |
| 19:41.41 | Gunrun | nevermind |
| 19:42.05 | Xtek | oh |
| 19:42.14 | Xtek | *shrug* |
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| 21:09.36 | sannse | hi, I'd like to replace my statement that WoWWiki will remain open on Wikia... I don't think that's any more unreasonable than us allowing you to state that you have created an alternative |
| 21:10.06 | g0urra | it's still there |
| 21:10.15 | sannse | did I miss it? looking |
| 21:10.29 | kd3|netbook | http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum:Should_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F#This_wiki_is_not_closing |
| 21:10.40 | kd3|netbook | unless it changed since the last time I looked |
| 21:11.12 | sannse | ah, the header is there, the explanation isn't |
| 21:11.58 | sannse | I was careful to word it neutrally - "you can edit here, choice is yours"... |
| 21:12.04 | sannse | (paraphrased) |
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| 21:22.22 | sannse | can we come to an agreement on this? |
| 21:24.30 | sannse | looks at g0urra. |
| 21:24.56 | g0urra | sorry, what? |
| 21:25.58 | sannse | I would like to replace my text, without being reverted again. I don't want to edit war, so I'm asking if we can agree that a statement worded neutrally can stay on the page |
| 21:26.18 | g0urra | ok |
| 21:26.40 | sannse | thanks, are you ok with the wording I had, or do you want to discuss that? |
| 21:26.59 | g0urra | np |
| 21:28.11 | sannse | OK, I'll replace it now |
| 21:37.22 | sannse | OK, next on my list: pcj, I don't think that your talk page message fully explains the situation. I think there are two solutions, I could add a message after yours, or maybe it would be easier to work that out between us too? |
| 21:38.43 | pcj_2 | you're free to do what you want with in wowwiki policy |
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| 21:39.45 | sannse | I suspect Wowiki policy would generally disagree with someone posting repeated messages about another site on every editors talk page :) |
| 21:39.57 | pcj_2 | No, it doesn't. |
| 21:39.58 | sannse | I don't think this is exactly a normal situation |
| 21:40.00 | doras | People did ask to be informed. |
| 21:40.33 | pcj_2 | sannse: considering sitenotice is broken in monaco i have little choice |
| 21:40.38 | sannse | really? how odd.. most wikis consider that spamming... so if someone sets up a new site completely separate from you and spams the address on talk pages you wouldn't have objected? |
| 21:40.57 | sannse | broken? looking |
| 21:41.37 | g0urra | Anonnotice is disabled, too. |
| 21:42.25 | sannse | is pinging the techys |
| 21:42.56 | g0urra | there's Anonnotice but no Anonnotice id |
| 21:43.12 | pcj_2 | g0urra: no need for anonnotice id |
| 21:43.15 | pcj_2 | as anons can't dismiss |
| 21:43.22 | g0urra | k |
| 21:46.01 | doras | The site notice is broken? That's so WEIRD. |
| 21:46.42 | sannse | <insert consipracy theories here> |
| 21:46.45 | sannse | only spelt right |
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| 22:08.25 | sannse | sitenotice should be back in a moment, a change for the notification bubbles spilt over to monaco |
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| 22:32.45 | sannse | site notice is back |
| 22:33.13 | sannse | pcj: so can we go back to the previous discussion? |
| 22:36.38 | pcj_2 | sannse: there is basis for what i'm doing in wowwiki policy, WW:EL allows for adding an external link to multiple pages if it is favorably received by the community |
| 22:37.13 | sannse | heh, nice stretch :P |
| 22:37.42 | Sky2042 | sannse: Does it matter? Rel=nofollow for external links. |
| 22:37.59 | Sky2042 | So that transaction isn't gaining wowpedia any juice. |
| 22:38.05 | sannse | it's not the external link I am worried about, it's what I see as misinformation |
| 22:38.25 | pcj_2 | It's not misinformation |
| 22:38.25 | Sky2042 | Except, it's not? The one's being more mis-informative would be Wikia, imo. |
| 22:38.32 | pcj_2 | I said "we" are moving, "you" are welcome to join us |
| 22:38.47 | sannse | yep, and you didn't qualify who "we" are |
| 22:38.52 | pcj_2 | So? |
| 22:39.00 | pcj_2 | Lack of information doesn't make it misinformation |
| 22:39.06 | sannse | which implies that the whole wiki is moving |
| 22:39.30 | Sky2042 | Well, it is? The viewers might or might not, but every single editor who has said anything about it has said "I'm going." |
| 22:39.42 | pcj_2 | The community consensus is to move |
| 22:39.47 | pcj_2 | there is no objection |
| 22:39.49 | Sky2042 | The people who generate the content are the ones who can say "we". |
| 22:40.00 | Sky2042 | This is normal vernacular on any website. :) |
| 22:40.34 | sannse | so, what's the problem then of being neutral and allowing people the option? |
| 22:40.49 | pcj_2 | I said they would be welcome |
| 22:40.49 | kd3|netbook | they're welcome to ignore the message and stay? |
| 22:40.52 | Sky2042 | Because that is neutral? |
| 22:40.55 | Sky2042 | Also, kd3. |
| 22:41.01 | pcj_2 | I didn't say OMG YOU BETTER COME OR I WILL FUCKING BAN YOU |
| 22:41.38 | sannse | I'm sure we can come to a wording that we all agree is neutral |
| 22:42.05 | sannse | or I can just paste my own message I guess |
| 22:42.08 | pcj_2 | i feel the existing wording is already neutral and am waiting for a suggestion that would be more neutral |
| 22:43.16 | sannse | Hey, just wanted to let you know we are moving to [http://www.wowpedia.org http://www.wowpedia.org]. Feel free to join us! This wiki will also remain available if you prefer to edit here -- ~~~~ |
| 22:43.43 | Ressy | The reclaim part is important. |
| 22:43.56 | Ressy | so users can take credit for their own edits. |
| 22:44.27 | sannse | reclaim part? I took that directly from one of pcj's edits, and just added to the end |
| 22:44.32 | pcj_2 | yeah |
| 22:44.54 | pcj_2 | sannse what about "The wiki will also remain available on Wikia if you prefer to edit here" |
| 22:45.12 | sannse | *nod* sounds good |
| 22:45.14 | pcj_2 | ok |
| 22:45.24 | sannse | thanks, I apreciate it |
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| 22:54.52 | Ressy | god I love how fast wowpedia loads without all the wiki crap compared to wowwiki |
| 22:54.59 | Ressy | crap. wrong channel |
| 22:55.09 | Sky2042 | kicks Ressy. |
| 22:55.24 | pcj_2 | ressy why do you even stay in here anymore geez |
| 22:55.29 | Ressy | good point. |
| 22:55.31 | Ressy | :) |
| 22:55.35 | Ressy | good riddance wikia. |
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| 22:57.05 | Shirik | heh |
| 22:57.10 | Shirik | that's an interesting way of putting it |
| 22:57.12 | Alram | A+ |
| 22:57.45 | g0urra | Alram: C- |
| 22:57.54 | Alram | oh you changed topic |
| 22:57.56 | Alram | F- |
| 22:58.05 | Alram | :> |
| 22:58.16 | pcj_2 | you can't have an f- |
| 22:58.26 | Alram | my point |
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